[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Paul Mason
The response went off-line I post the missing posting I asked you to present evidence that there was more than one person acting as Shankaracharya (whether he claims the title to two maths or not -- disputed claims, one might add) who was opposed to Maharishi. I quote

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Paul Mason
So the other Shankaracharyas are chopped liver? The fact that Swaroop had face time with Guru Dev doesn't mean anything. Guru Dev's master had many disciples, but we only hear about Guru Dev because good disciples are few and far between. In other traditions, Judas was a disciple, too, but

[FairfieldLife] Shankaracharya Swami Shantanand Saraswati

2005-03-26 Thread Paul Mason
There are a few books available of the teachings of Shantanand Ji. They can be had by contacting the Study Society at http://www.studysociety.net/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Freemasons et al

2005-03-26 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 25, 2005, at 7:29 PM, peterklutz wrote: Any comment on the Rocicrucians and their knowledge by MMY? Did you know I was a Freemasonic scholar? Ask something more specific. I wish I knew how, I am as ignorant

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Freemasons et al

2005-03-26 Thread Vaj
On Mar 25, 2005, at 11:38 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Ok. Do you know what they hid at Rosslynn? Ha ha. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahman, Turiya and Awakening --and My Three Suns

2005-03-26 Thread Vaj
On Mar 26, 2005, at 1:24 AM, Rory Goff wrote: To tackle your questions on the traditional koshas or sheaths, we could maybe align the koshas with the chakras etc. The chakras, nadi and points are part of the prana-maya-kosha. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Freemasons et al

2005-03-26 Thread Vaj
On Mar 26, 2005, at 5:33 AM, peterklutz wrote: Come to think of it, that's a good topic - the Rocicrucian view on Atlantis? There are no Rosicrucians. There was a movement in society created by the manifestos and largely driven by the angst left over from the reformation and how it failed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Vaj
On Mar 26, 2005, at 12:43 AM, Kenny H wrote: I thoroughly disagree with this statement though I have heard people say it for years now and have hear Maharishi imtimate it. However, when you sit up in front of people and wait until someone puts your deerskin down before you get seated. when

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 12:43 AM, Kenny H wrote: I thoroughly disagree with this statement though I have heard people say it for years now and have hear Maharishi imtimate it. However, when you sit up in front of people and wait until someone puts

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/25/05 11:56 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Until you know that: Maharishi slept on the floor at the foot of Guru Dev's bed; people do not follow rigorous diets, but in fact choose what they want to eat; development of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Vaj
On Mar 26, 2005, at 7:29 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: Perhaps it doesn't work for you. You can't claim to have the experience of others. So you are saying you have witnessed MMY formally accepting sishyas? That's the point here, not that people do not or cannot derive some benefit from him or

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 12:43 AM, Kenny H wrote: I thoroughly disagree with this statement though I have heard people say it for years now and have hear Maharishi imtimate it. However, when you sit up in front of people

[FairfieldLife] Re: Freemasons et al

2005-03-26 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 5:33 AM, peterklutz wrote: Come to think of it, that's a good topic - the Rocicrucian view on Atlantis? There are no Rosicrucians. There was a movement in society created by the manifestos and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahman, Turiya and Awakening --and My Three Suns

2005-03-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 1:24 AM, Rory Goff wrote: To tackle your questions on the traditional koshas or sheaths, we could maybe align the koshas with the chakras etc. The chakras, nadi and points are part of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are right, he does use many of the props and a lot of the pretense. We're talking about McDonald's drive-thru style meditation here. It ain't 'the real thing'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/26/05 6:32 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 1:09 AM, Rick Archer wrote: No one can be a personal guru to the masses, but you're kidding yourself if you don't think he had a very close guru/diciple relationship with the inner circle The guru-disciple

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/26/05 6:39 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I get more involved with Punditji it's becoming clearer and clearer that there is an inner and an outer relationship with the guru. The outer relationship means, essentially, nothing. You can tell absolutely nothing of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Freemasons et al

2005-03-26 Thread rudra_joe
Then you've got him sussed. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:58 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Freemasons et al On Mar 26, 2005, at 12:27 AM, rudra_joe wrote: Is MMY really a grade 33

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Paul Mason
He did initiate some westerners into Brahmacharya with an elaborate ceremony. Would you elaborate on that please? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread rudra_joe
Perhaps it doesn't work for you. You can't claim tohave the experience of others. -PeterIt's not that it works or that it doesn't work. It's the denigration of all past traditions in the simple phrase, "Spiritual Regeneration," or other (tmed) Maharishisms. It's not the purity of the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread rudra_joe
As I get more involved with Punditji it's becomingclearer and clearer that there is an inner and anouter relationship with the guru. The outerrelationship means, essentially, nothing. You can tellabsolutely nothing of the inner relationship from theouter relationship of another. We know

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 8:31 AM, Rick Archer wrote: He did initiate some westerners into Brahmacharya with an elaborate ceremony. OK, here's a fine point: did he personally initiate them or did he have a Brahmin

[FairfieldLife] 'Modifications to MMY biog including views represented through FFL'

2005-03-26 Thread Paul Mason
'Modifications to MMY biog including views represented through FFL' I recently received an email with the above title. I have copied my reply:- Hi again. I noticed the title of your email and have wondered what can be done to represent the collective views of those who have been posting at

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread peterklutz
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip As I get more involved with Punditji it's becoming clearer and clearer that there is an inner and an outer relationship with the guru. The outer relationship means, essentially, nothing. You can tell

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/26/05 7:54 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 8:31 AM, Rick Archer wrote: He did initiate some westerners into Brahmacharya with an elaborate ceremony. OK, here's a fine point: did he personally initiate them or did he have a Brahmin perform the rite? Who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Brahman, Turiya and Awakening --and My Three Suns

2005-03-26 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (continuing in the model of mergence of Purusha and Prakriti through the various dimensions or bodies) ...So when viewed from the inside, while these processes are going on, it can get more than a little

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Kenny H
So Maharishi performed some type of official ceremony so a handful of people could be officially called disciples, big whoop. Is there a rulebook that describes a guru-disciple relationship? If so does it specifically void relationships that are absent this.some ceremony? Isn't the guru disciple

[FairfieldLife] Is Maharishi a Guru?

2005-03-26 Thread Rick Archer
Shannon Dickson's report on his Brahmachari initiation: Hi Rick, Regarding my Brahmacharya initiation by MMY, it was a lovely ceremony late one night in Majorca. He had the large picture of Guru Dev above a puja set in his room at the Hotel Samoa, and when I came in the room he had me sit on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Maharishi a Guru?

2005-03-26 Thread Kenny H
Rick What is Shannon up to now? How long did his brahmachari lifestyle last? Did the others, Billy Clayton, Rob, et al, also get this particular initiation? Ken --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shannon Dickson's report on his Brahmachari initiation:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Maharishi a Guru?

2005-03-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/26/05 12:31 PM, Kenny H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick What is Shannon up to now? He lives out in Hawaii now. He had polio as a child - his inoculation gave it to him - and this led to complications later in life which qualify him for Medicare support or something like that. He also

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread medwards520
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/26/05 6:39 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I get more involved with Punditji it's becoming clearer and clearer that there is an inner and an outer relationship with the guru. The outer

[FairfieldLife] Back from Pundiji

2005-03-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
Well, Pundiji left this morning from Ft. Lauderdale airport. Got to spend some time with him in his room this morning just sitting in that amazing darshan. Then everyone went downstairs to a larger room for a brief satsang with the local Art of Living people. Drove the Indian people traveling

Re: [FairfieldLife] Back from Pundiji

2005-03-26 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 3/26/05 3:32:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: His "skin boy" gave me all ofPunditji's bedding and cooking pots to wash and keepfor when he comes back the next time. Then we all wentand had lunch and told Punditji and MMY stories.Pretty

Re: [FairfieldLife] Back from Pundiji

2005-03-26 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 3/26/05 4:06:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Robert Byrd? Senator of West Virginia, "former" Grand Klegel of the Ku Klux Klan. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Vaj
On Mar 26, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Rick Archer wrote: He did it. I don't know if was an upanayama ceremony. It lasted about an hour and was done privately for each man. He laid his hands on their heads and did other stuff. Thanks for sharing that--that was beautiful to hear. I don't want

[FairfieldLife] [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship Theresa Schiavo

2005-03-26 Thread Rick Archer
Title: [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship Theresa Schiavo -- Forwarded Message From: Nelson and Mary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:24:42 -0600 To: Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship Theresa Schiavo Hey Rick, I didn't know how to clean up

[FairfieldLife] Re: [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship Theresa Schiavo

2005-03-26 Thread peterklutz
Maybe this whole Schiavo thing is symbolic-omenious for North-America at this time.. Do we kill her or let her stay with us, hoping for improvement..? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

Re: [FairfieldLife] [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship Theresa Schiavo

2005-03-26 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 3/26/05 4:25:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "Instead of serving to protect the assets of incapacitated persons,the existing guardianship system presents the opportunity forunscrupulous guardians to loot the assets of their wards and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship Theresa Schiavo

2005-03-26 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 3/26/05 4:33:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe this whole Schiavo thing is symbolic-omenious for North-Americaat this time..Do we kill her or let her stay with us, hoping for improvement..? There will probably be some very important

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the other Shankaracharyas are chopped liver? The fact that Swaroop had face time with Guru Dev doesn't mean anything. Guru Dev's master had many disciples, but we only hear about Guru Dev because good

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 9:16 AM, off_world_beings wrote: Your just mad because TM gets taught in some public schools in the US, gets taught to offenders in Missourri, is funded in research by the NIH, and is soon going to

[FairfieldLife] Re: [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship Theresa Schiavo

2005-03-26 Thread anonymousff
in the absence of facts and common sense, make up a rightwing nutter conspiracy theory --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Forwarded Message From: Nelson and Mary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 16:24:42 -0600 To: Rick Archer [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Back from Pundiji

2005-03-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got to spend some time with him in his room this morning just sitting in that amazing darshan. Then we all went and had lunch and told Punditji and MMY stories. And then you all went to the Kareoke bar and

[FairfieldLife] GROUP PRAYER

2005-03-26 Thread off_world_beings
Whatever your beliefs about the Teri Schaivo case, lets all together now pray for the most evolutionary outcome to occur. A group prayer from the minds that have been on a strong spiritual track for decades. No judgement or personal desire. Lets just pray now for the righteous thing for Teri

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread off_world_beings
WOW ! This really goes to how out of touch and prejuduced you really are. No wonder you are always badmouthing TM. TM was NOT considered a religion by that court case, but your mind has turned it into its negative. TM won the case. Get informed ! Secondly TM is taught in a Public school in a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
Wrong. TM lost that court case, because it was deemed to have religious overtones. The 1977 court ruling, Malnak v. Yogi, dealt a serious blow to the movement. TM appealed to the New Jersey State Supreme Court claiming they were not teaching religion, but proven scientific techniques. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread off_world_beings
Wrong. It was overturned, and TM is now being taught in Public Schools in the US, and has been for at least 10 years. The first one I know of was in Washington DC, and goes back before the 1995 DC WPA. (of course the redneck fundie christians will never let it get widespread in Public

[FairfieldLife] Re: [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship Theresa Schiavo

2005-03-26 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/26/05 4:25:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Instead of serving to protect the assets of incapacitated persons, the existing guardianship system presents the opportunity for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
Comment below: --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 9:16 AM, off_world_beings wrote: Your just mad because TM gets taught in some public schools in the US, gets taught to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Back from Pundiji

2005-03-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/26/05 3:42:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] hsummit.com writes: on 3/26/05 3:32 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Pundiji left this morning from Ft. Lauderdale airport. Got to spend some

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
You seem to be the only one that knows that, as there are no articles on the Web that support that claim. Sal On Mar 26, 2005, at 6:26 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Wrong. It was overturned, and TM is now being taught in Public Schools in the US, and has been for at least 10 years.

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 7:19 PM, Sal Sunshine wrote: Wrong. TM lost that court case, because it was deemed to have religious overtones. And of course you are correct Sal. . Why are you spreading lies Vaj? This is very

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread gullible fool
Its $2.50 a day over 3 years. Few keep up with it for three years. --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What DOES matter is if they are charging 2400 USD a pop. That is criminal. No its not. You are making this up. Its $2.50 a day over 3 years. Which is less than

[FairfieldLife] Re: [CTN-Jogues] Fwd: Guardianship Theresa Schiavo

2005-03-26 Thread Nelson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in the absence of facts and common sense, make up a rightwing nutter conspiracy theory snip + Iam sorry you seem to have the same problem as the judge in the case. He does not look for or see the evidence

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Vaj
On Mar 26, 2005, at 7:32 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: The age of enlightenment must be here, Off_world and I agree upon something! Sure, MMY appears to do some pretty whacky things, but to dismiss his enlightened status is a mistake and to dismiss his techniques means they simply did not bear

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Back from Pundiji

2005-03-26 Thread Peter Sutphen
Nice experience Ken. I'm not a fanatic with Punditji saying everyone must do his program or some such thing, but if you like saints, go an see him if you have the chance. It's usually a very nice expereince at worst and a real life changer at best! We became way to fanatic about other saints in

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You seem to be the only one that knows that, as there are no articles on the Web that support that claim. Sal Your mind is tuned to not find it. You'll need to cure yourself of that oneday (not a judgement,

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 7:33 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Why are you spreading lies Vaj? I'm not. What is present as TM (etc.) is Neo-Vedic Hinduism. I would be lying if I told you any different. Why did you so

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/26/05 7:54 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 8:31 AM, Rick Archer wrote: He did initiate some westerners into Brahmacharya with an elaborate ceremony. OK, here's a fine

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Vaj
Hi Peter: On Mar 26, 2005, at 7:32 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote: The age of enlightenment must be here, Off_world and I agree upon something! Sure, MMY appears to do some pretty whacky things, but to dismiss his enlightened status is a mistake and to dismiss his techniques means they simply

[FairfieldLife] Re: Back from Pundiji

2005-03-26 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Maharishi was very gracious to me in that way as well. The last few times I saw him he made it a point of letting me break through the throng trying to get his attention. Those were also special and meaningful

[FairfieldLife] Re: Freemasons et al mantras

2005-03-26 Thread johnlasher20002000
-I have heard from a mason that the bija mantras used in tm are also in some of their designs or available, but they don't know what they are. Is this true. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Freemasons et al mantras

2005-03-26 Thread Vaj
On Mar 26, 2005, at 8:19 PM, johnlasher20002000 wrote: -I have heard from a mason that the bija mantras used in tm are also in some of their designs or available, but they don't know what they are. Is this true. Yes. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread easyone200
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 7:33 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Why are you spreading lies Vaj? I'm not. What is present as TM (etc.) is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Mar 26, 2005, at 6:53 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Your mind is tuned to not find it. My mind might be, but my search engine isn't, and it didn't find anything to support your claim either. And it won't, not until Malnak v Yogi is overturned. I wouldn't hold my breath on thiat one. Ever

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Back from Pundiji

2005-03-26 Thread Sal Sunshine
And you don't even have to be on steroids. Sal On Mar 26, 2005, at 7:17 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: I didn't realize Ken, that you were in that select group of having taught 1000 plus people. I mean that kind of record should mean something to the CEO. What would you say is sports

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 8:05 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: MMY did this for a handful of westerners who kept bugging him that they wanted to be celibate monk-types, but after they all were unsuccessful in this line of work,

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, easyone200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 7:33 PM, off_world_beings wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Vaj
On Mar 26, 2005, at 8:40 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: It was not folly on MMY's part, it was just a way of dealing with children who insisted, wrongly as it turns out, that they were qualified to be Brahmacharis. Interesting if true. This reminds me of the anecdote in Nancy Cooke de Herrera's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 3/26/05 6:20:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . The Supreme Court upheld the initial decision in a 1979 ruling. After several years of steady growth, this same time frame marks the beginning of a decline in the number of new initiates to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Back from Pundiji

2005-03-26 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 3/26/05 6:38:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I bet MMY is still that way. Yeah , but just try getting in the same room with him! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/26/05 7:05 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * MMY did this for a handful of westerners who kept bugging him that they wanted to be celibate monk-types, but after they all were unsuccessful in this line of work, MMY quit doing it, right? Right. And since he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/26/05 7:19 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No it is not. It does not require any belief, or giving up other religions. It requires you to believe the mantra will work--a mantra from the Hindu tantras. It requires you to hear a listing of a common lineage in Hinduism. It requires

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread off_world_beings
Sal Are you blind? TM is taught in public schools in the US right now. It is legal to do so. What does that tell you about the law? It is possible that the fundie christians will never let it be widespread (but will try as many toxic pharmaceuticals on their addh children as possible.and

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Kenny H
Anyone remember when the NJ court case and ruling actually took place? In late 79-early 80, I wrote a grant to the Bd of Ed of the City of NY, at the request of a middle school principal in the South Bronx, and ended up getting money and initiating nearly the entire faculty of this bombed out

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Kenny H
you LIKE starting arguments, don't you!! kh --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/26/05 7:05 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * MMY did this for a handful of westerners who kept bugging him that they wanted to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/26/05 7:19 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No it is not. It does not require any belief, or giving up other religions. It requires you to believe the mantra will work--a mantra from the Hindu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Freemasons et al mantras

2005-03-26 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 26, 2005, at 8:19 PM, johnlasher20002000 wrote: -I have heard from a mason that the bija mantras used in tm are also in some of their designs or available, but they don't know what they are. Is this true.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/26/05 9:38 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/26/05 7:19 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No it is not. It does not require any belief, or giving up other religions. It requires you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/26/05 9:36 PM, Kenny H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you LIKE starting arguments, don't you!! kh Who me? Yeah, gotta stir the pot every now and then. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, easyone200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TM is being taught with public funds at the charter schools in Mich and MD (and it ain't cheap, $625/yr per student -- see

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/26/05 7:19 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No it is not. It does not require any belief, or giving up other religions. It requires you to believe the mantra will work--a mantra from the Hindu

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Kenny H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone remember when the NJ court case and ruling actually took place? In late 79-early 80, I wrote a grant to the Bd of Ed of the City of NY, at the request of a middle school principal in the South Bronx, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/26/05 6:20:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . The Supreme Court upheld the initial

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/26/05 10:52 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * People who are ordered to start TM are unlikely to have the same interest in continuing as those who had the desire on their own. Bill Coors, the beer baron, ordered his execs to start TM, naturally it did not work

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/26/05 10:52 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * People who are ordered to start TM are unlikely to have the same interest in continuing as those who had the desire on their own. Bill

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would have no legal standing, not being a local or state of michigan taxpayer. However, feel free to get the bible thumpers going, they've got to find a new thing once terri schiavo drools her last in a few

Re: [FairfieldLife] Back from Pundiji

2005-03-26 Thread rudra_joe
When I met him he scowled and so did I. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Back from Pundiji In a message dated 3/26/05 3:42:54 P.M.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Rick Archer
on 3/26/05 11:11 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, all this may not make much of a difference, since an actual yogic flyer would be far and away the best advertising possible, and I think a legitimate and convincing demonstration in possible in the near future, What

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread Bob Brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/26/05 11:11 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, all this may not make much of a difference, since an actual yogic flyer would be far and away the best advertising possible, and I think a

[FairfieldLife] Re: THE PRICE OF TM.

2005-03-26 Thread m2smart4u2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/26/05 11:11 PM, Bob Brigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, all this may not make much of a difference, since an

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Friends, your Daily Inspiration - Sunday - God Is - Period

2005-03-26 Thread The Daily Inspiration
Title: DailyPage_10 March 27, 2005 - God Is - Period We must not portray you in king's robes, you drifting mist that brought forth the morning. Once again, from the old paint

[FairfieldLife] Euthanasia FYI

2005-03-26 Thread m2smart4u2000
1. Where are euthanasia and assisted suicide legal? Oregon, the Netherlands and Belgium are the only jurisdictions in the world where laws specifically permit euthanasia or assisted suicide. Oregon permits assisted suicide.(1) The Netherlands and Belgium permit both euthanasia and assisted