[FairfieldLife] Re: Men's and women's peaces palaces on MUM campus

2005-10-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/7/05 7:32 PM, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It's the manifestation of his knowledge that is the gift. If you
  don't value the knowledge, then you miss what the gift is.
 
 Diluted, commercialized knowledge is a gift?

It's an American thang, sorta like Reader's Digest 
Condensed Books -- Knowledge Light.








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[FairfieldLife] Earthquake in India was merely bad aim...

2005-10-08 Thread TurquoiseB
...it was really intended for that scorpion nation Britain.

7.6-Magnitude Quake Hits Pakistan, Afghanistan, India

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (Oct. 8) - A powerful 7.6-magnitude 
earthquake rocked South Asia on Saturday, killing at 
least 21 people and injuring hundreds in Pakistan, India 
and Afghanistan. Pakistan's army said initial reports 
indicate the damage was widespread in that country.

One of the hardest-hit areas appeared to be Kashmir, the 
Himalayan territory divided between India and Pakistan. 
Both countries reported dozens of homes damaged, along 
with some schools, mosques and office buildings.







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[FairfieldLife] Well, avidyaa!

2005-10-08 Thread cardemaister

The root of the word _avidyaa_ prolly is 'vid'
(= to know). Obviously , _vidyaa_ means something
like 'knowledge', and _a-vidyaa_ is the opposite
of that, 'ignorance'. From the same root are 
e.g. words like 'veda' and 'vaidya'. 
There are some five suutras in Paatañjala-yoga-
darshanam that contain the word _avidyaa_.
 Suutra number 5 in the _saadhana-paada_
(Chapter 2) seems like the definition of _avidyaa:

(legend: z = sh in Harvard-Kyoto -convention)

anityaazuci-duHkhaanaatmasu nitya-zuci-
sukhaatmakhyaatir avidyaa

(without sandhi:
anitya; azuci; duHkha; an_aatmasu; nitya;
zuci; sukha; aatma-khyaatiH; avidyaa.)

The Sanskrit syntax of that suutra is quite interesting:

in noneternal-impure-misery-not_self
eternal-pure-happiness-self -knowledge (is)
ignorance

Taimni tries to convey that in English like this:

/avidyaa/ is taking the non-eternal, impure, evil
and non-aatman to be eternal, pure, good and aatman
respectively.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Well, avidyaa!

2005-10-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 The root of the word _avidyaa_ prolly is 'vid'
 (= to know). Obviously , _vidyaa_ means something
 like 'knowledge', and _a-vidyaa_ is the opposite
 of that, 'ignorance'. From the same root are 
 e.g. words like 'veda' and 'vaidya'. 
 There are some five suutras in Paatañjala-yoga-
 darshanam that contain the word _avidyaa_.
  Suutra number 5 in the _saadhana-paada_
 (Chapter 2) seems like the definition of _avidyaa:
 
 (legend: z = sh in Harvard-Kyoto -convention)
 
 anityaazuci-duHkhaanaatmasu nitya-zuci-
 sukhaatmakhyaatir avidyaa
 
 (without sandhi:
 anitya; azuci; duHkha; an_aatmasu; nitya;
 zuci; sukha; aatma-khyaatiH; avidyaa.)
 
 The Sanskrit syntax of that suutra is quite interesting:
 
 in noneternal-impure-misery-not_self
 eternal-pure-happiness-self -knowledge (is)
 ignorance
 
 Taimni tries to convey that in English like this:
 
 /avidyaa/ is taking the non-eternal, impure, evil
 and non-aatman to be eternal, pure, good and aatman
 respectively.

The next time you see Taimni, could you ask 
him for me if he could point out something
in the universe that is non-eternal at its
most fundamental level.  Then I can start
from there when trying to determine if it
is indeed 'impure' or 'evil.'  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance

2005-10-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 SNIP
 
  Bush is something that never should have happened
  in the first place, a stupid mistake.
 
 
 
 Every group gets the government it deserves -- Bush is a mistake 
 only in the sense that he is representative of a very mistaken 
 people. Bush happened because the American people are, on average, 
 as stupid as he is (turn on the TV any night if you doubt that), 
 and they continue to channelize his thinking. Only higher 
 consciousness among the populace will create a situation where 
 more intelligent leaders are enabled.

For once, Bob and I are in perfect agreement.  The 
rest of the world perceives George W. Bush -- in my
opinion correctly -- as the almost perfect embodi-
ment of the collective consciousness of the American
people.

How to change that collective consciousness is another
story.  I'm still non-cynical enough to believe that
if more people practiced meditation and self discovery
it would have a tremendous effect.  I *am* cynical 
enough to *not* believe that a bunch of people bouncing
on their butts will affect it very much, or that build-
ing a bunch of overpriced pre-fab homes will affect it
very much.  And I am *truly* cynical enough to believe
that it may take a wake up call on the level of the
Great Depression Squared to shock most Americans out
of their self-involved lethargy -- politically, eco-
nomically, ecologically, and in terms of compassion
for their fellow man.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Men's and women's peaces palaces on MUM campus

2005-10-08 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 10/7/05 7:32 PM, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   It's the manifestation of his knowledge that is the gift. If you
   don't value the knowledge, then you miss what the gift is.
  
  Diluted, commercialized knowledge is a gift?
 
 It's an American thang, sorta like Reader's Digest 
 Condensed Books -- Knowledge Light.

You misspelled 'Lite'.

Alex






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Men's and women's peaces palaces on MUM campus

2005-10-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On 10/7/05 7:32 PM, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
It's the manifestation of his knowledge that is the gift. If you
don't value the knowledge, then you miss what the gift is.
   
   Diluted, commercialized knowledge is a gift?
  
  It's an American thang, sorta like Reader's Digest 
  Condensed Books -- Knowledge Light.
 
 You misspelled 'Lite'.

Good catch.  Mea culpa.  :-)






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance

2005-10-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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wrote:
 
 SNIP
 
  Bush is something that never should have happened
  in the first place, a stupid mistake.
  
 
 
 
 Every group gets the government it deserves

Yeah, that's a given.  I was trying to get at 
something else entirely and having trouble
articulating it.

 -- Bush is a mistake
 only in the sense that he is representative of a very mistaken 
 people. Bush happened because the American people are, on average, 
 as stupid as he is (turn on the TV any night if you doubt that), 
 and they continue to channelize his thinking. Only higher 
 consciousness among the populace will create a situation where more 
 intelligent leaders are enabled.

See, we *used* to have more intelligent leaders,
even if they were bad ones.  That was why I was
comparing Bush with Nixon.

Shakespeare could have written a play about Nixon;
he's a Richard III-type character.  But Shakespeare
would never have written a play about Bush.  He just
doesn't have the *stature*.  There's more to it than
lack of intelligence (and he isn't stupid IQ-wise).
Bush doesn't have a tragic flaw; his flaws don't
rise to the level of tragedy.  Bush wouldn't even
be worth writing a history play about because he 
isn't an interesting enough personality.

For that matter, Shakespeare could have written a
play about Clinton, or Lyndon Johnson, or Kennedy,
or Eisenhower, even Jimmy Carter, or Bush I.

Bush is at the center of some of the most important
events and trends in American (and world) history.
But he's just a cipher, an *absence*.  There's no
there there.

If Shakespeare *had* to write a play about the Bush
era, the main character would have to be Karl Rove,
or perhaps Cheney; Bush would be a minor character.

That's why I say he's a mistake--it's as if the
trends of time took a detour they weren't supposed
to take and got stuck in a dead end.






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[FairfieldLife] Our Inner Apes

2005-10-08 Thread authfriend
Interesting review in the NY Times of what sounds
like a very intriguing book by a primatologist.

Temple Grandin, the reviewer, is the high-functioning
autistic woman who has become rather well known for,
among other things, her designs for humane livestock
facilities and her advocacy for autistic people.

October 9, 2005
'Our Inner Ape': Hey Hey, We're the Monkeys 
By TEMPLE GRANDIN

Our closest genetic cousins, the apes, are capable of great empathy 
but also of violent, ruthless killing. Frans de Waal, a prominent 
primatologist, compares our social behavior with that of two species 
of apes: chimpanzees and bonobos (which look like smaller, more 
upright chimps). Despite their physical similarities, the two species 
behave very differently. Bonobos live in a relatively peaceful 
matriarchy; when conflicts do arise, instead of fighting they often 
use sexual activity to resolve them, defusing the aggression with 
friendly physical contact. Like hippies, they make love, not war. 
Chimp society, however, is a male-dominated hierarchy based on power. 
Unlike the gentle bonobos, who seldom kill, chimps will hunt for meat 
and even kill members of rival groups.

In this fascinating book, de Waal suggests that the two species 
represent sides of our own nature. We have not one but two inner 
apes, he writes, speculating that humans may act like a hybrid of 
bonobos and chimps. (Little is known about actual bonobo-chimp 
hybrids except for a group that lives in a French traveling circus 
and strikes visitors with its gentility and sensitivity.)...

Read more at:
http://tinyurl.com/8hrll






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[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's designated successor.. (was Re: A scolding for Maharishi...)

2005-10-08 Thread uns_tressor
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  Impressive. His first task might be to cognize from the 
  absolute a cure for clinical obesity before he dies of 
  heart failure.
  Uns.
 
 
 
 Skinny people die of heart failure also.

Fat is deadly. Lets reign in political correctness.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: more Lynch tour

2005-10-08 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 yielding positive results from the other schools he's 
 visited, 
   with one university in talks to establish a center for the 
 meditation 
   practice.  
   http://www.washingtonsquarenews.com/news/campus/9934.html
  
  I suspect that all this effort will be wasted if
  Maharishi continues to keep in position his barking 
  mad price list. (Unless, of course, there are realistic
  concessions for students).
  Uns.
 
 
 For me, and for many people, the price would be barking mad for 
 somethingthat was unproven (at least in my personal life). However, 
 after 30+ years of practice, I think it's worth far more than that. 
 Lynch's choice is to let the price remain high but give students 
and 
 teachers a chance to learn it for free or for a drastically reduced 
 price. That way, people believe they're getting something 
important, 
 but they don't have to pay the full price.

A nice strategy; but the first thing people want is 
TM for parents, friends, the local scrotes who break
into peole's cars and nick radios etc. What about them?
uns.





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[FairfieldLife] Mel Gibson's The Passion of Christ

2005-10-08 Thread TurquoiseB
Did anyone see it?  I resisted it all this time,
but to use up the last prepaid credits at a Paris
DVD-rental place, I rented it and am watching it
now.  My first impression, about 20 minutes into
it, is that I should have rented something better,
like Plan 9 from Outer Space.

So far, however, it IS an interesting picture of
Missing The Point Of The Spiritual Quest Entirely.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Well, avidyaa!

2005-10-08 Thread cardemaister
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  The root of the word _avidyaa_ prolly is 'vid'
  (= to know). Obviously , _vidyaa_ means something
  like 'knowledge', and _a-vidyaa_ is the opposite
  of that, 'ignorance'. From the same root are 
  e.g. words like 'veda' and 'vaidya'. 
  There are some five suutras in Paatañjala-yoga-
  darshanam that contain the word _avidyaa_.
   Suutra number 5 in the _saadhana-paada_
  (Chapter 2) seems like the definition of _avidyaa:
  
  (legend: z = sh in Harvard-Kyoto -convention)
  
  anityaazuci-duHkhaanaatmasu nitya-zuci-
  sukhaatmakhyaatir avidyaa
  
  (without sandhi:
  anitya; azuci; duHkha; an_aatmasu; nitya;
  zuci; sukha; aatma-khyaatiH; avidyaa.)
  
  The Sanskrit syntax of that suutra is quite interesting:
  
  in noneternal-impure-misery-not_self
  eternal-pure-happiness-self -knowledge (is)
  ignorance
  
  Taimni tries to convey that in English like this:
  
  /avidyaa/ is taking the non-eternal, impure, evil
  and non-aatman to be eternal, pure, good and aatman
  respectively.
 
 The next time you see Taimni, could you ask 
 him for me if he could point out something
 in the universe that is non-eternal at its
 most fundamental level. 

I believe in Vedic terminology that most fundamental
level is called aatmaa (aa-TM-aa), puruSa, and stuff.
I have no idea what it is called in Buddhism. :)


 Then I can start
 from there when trying to determine if it
 is indeed 'impure' or 'evil.'  :-)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance

2005-10-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 And I am *truly* cynical enough to believe
 that it may take a wake up call on the level of the
 Great Depression Squared to shock most Americans out
 of their self-involved lethargy -- politically, eco-
 nomically, ecologically, and in terms of compassion
 for their fellow man.
 
 How is this too much different from saying it will take the
 destruction of the French Quarter for a new world of light 
 to dawn?

I don't think I said that Americans *deserve* the
Great Depression Squared in a karmic sense (although
there is certainly a case to be made for that), or
that such an event would be the result of some kind
of Natural Law, only that an event of that magni-
tude may be what is necessary to wake them up.  
They're that far gone.  I don't think that they'll
really do anything to change things until they're
starving in the streets.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance

2005-10-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 Judy:
snip
  That's why I say he's a mistake--it's as if the
  trends of time took a detour they weren't supposed
  to take and got stuck in a dead end.
 
 A: 
 Do you know that to be absolutely true? Where would you be without
 that thought?
 
 If a leader is a reflection of the consciousness of their citizens 
 and Bush is mediocre -- Bush  doesn't have *stature*, tragic flaws, 
 isn't worthy of a history play, isn't an interesting personality, 
 etc. then perhaps America is getting enlightened and is simply 
 less attached to (any significance of) its imperfections, outer 
 projections, and returning karma. And/or Bush is simply a method 
 to help culture such an awareness in America's collective 
 consciousness.

By golly, I never thought of it that way.  Heaven on
Earth is truly dawning before our very eyes!






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Digest Number 3843

2005-10-08 Thread Kaarisa Karley
I can't seem to figure out how to access the
individual messages...anyone out there that can help
me...Kaarisa

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   1. Re: More Shankara-dig-vijaya: ...as
 lightly as a bundle of cotton.
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   2. Maharishi's designated successor..  (was
 Re: A scolding for Maharishi...)
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   3. Maharishi's designated successor..  (was
 Re: A scolding for Maharishi...)
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   4. Re: Dangers of Pseudo-Advaita
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   5. Re: Dangers of Pseudo-Advaita
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   6. Re: Dangers of Pseudo-Advaita
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   7. Re: Dangers of Pseudo-Advaita
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   8. Maharishi's designated successor..  (was
 Re: A scolding for Maharishi...)
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   9. Re: Dangers of Pseudo-Advaita
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  10. Re: Power of Silence
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  11. Re: more Lynch tour
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  12. Re: Satsang Reports: Byron Katie Session
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  13. Re: Men's and women's peaces palaces on MUM
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  14. Re:Re: Men's and women's peaces palaces on
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  15. Re: Men's and women's peaces palaces on MUM
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From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  16. Re:Re: Men's and women's peaces palaces on
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  17. Re: Global Country of World Peace flag -
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  18. Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance
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  19. Re:Re: Men's and women's peaces palaces on
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  20. Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush
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  21. Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush
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  22. Re: Men's and women's peaces palaces on MUM
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From: TurquoiseB
  23. Earthquake in India was merely bad aim...
From: TurquoiseB
  24. Well, avidyaa!
From: cardemaister
  25. Re: Well, avidyaa!
From: TurquoiseB
 
 




 
 Message: 1 
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:35:09 -
From: authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: More Shankara-dig-vijaya: ...as
 lightly as a bundle of cotton.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 jim_flanegin 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 authfriend 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 jim_flanegin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 authfriend 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  
   The real problem is the need to compete.
  It can take
   many forms, depending on the nature of
 the competing
   religions.
  
  Well said. The need to compete keeps us
 attached to the
  birth and death of ideas, the birth and
 death of desires, 
  and the birth and death of the body.
 
 Or the other way around, the need to compete
 is a
 function of attachment.

Right. Kind of a snake chasing its tail type
 of thing. Either 
way it is a circle.
   
   Plus the irony that if religion can be said to
   have a goal, it's to break that vicious circle.
  
  Yes. *Very* ironic! A close friend of mine
 remarked that they 
  thought the main goal of any religion is to
 prepare us for death. 
 
 Oy gevalt.  Well, death is transcendence of a sort.
 
 Or transcendence is a sort of death.  So he wasn't
 far wrong, conceptually at least.
 
 
 
 
 
 




 
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Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:17:37 -
From: Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Maharishi's designated successor..  (was
 Re: A scolding for 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance

2005-10-08 Thread akasha_108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  Judy:
 snip
   That's why I say he's a mistake--it's as if the
   trends of time took a detour they weren't supposed
   to take and got stuck in a dead end.
  
  A: 
  Do you know that to be absolutely true? Where would you be without
  that thought?
  
  If a leader is a reflection of the consciousness of their citizens 
  and Bush is mediocre -- Bush  doesn't have *stature*, tragic flaws, 
  isn't worthy of a history play, isn't an interesting personality, 
  etc. then perhaps America is getting enlightened and is simply 
  less attached to (any significance of) its imperfections, outer 
  projections, and returning karma. And/or Bush is simply a method 
  to help culture such an awareness in America's collective 
  consciousness.
 
 By golly, I never thought of it that way.  Heaven on
 Earth is truly dawning before our very eyes!


The operative word is perhaps. And perhaps an OSF would have helped
clarify the intent of the thought. But its as substantial a theory as
any others put forth. Personally, I don't give great weight to any. By
golly.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance

2005-10-08 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/8/05 5:18 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

And I am *truly* cynical enough to believe
 that it may take a wake up call on the level of the
 Great Depression Squared to shock most Americans out
 of their self-involved lethargy -- politically, eco-
 nomically, ecologically, and in terms of compassion
 for their fellow man.

It's probably coming. A number of probably things could trigger it, and Bush
has done a crackerjack job setting us up for it. Hard to imagine how anyone
could have done more damage in 5 years as president.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance

2005-10-08 Thread Rick Archer
on 10/8/05 9:13 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 And I am *truly* cynical enough to believe
 that it may take a wake up call on the level of the
 Great Depression Squared to shock most Americans out
 of their self-involved lethargy -- politically, eco-
 nomically, ecologically, and in terms of compassion
 for their fellow man.
 
 How is this too much different from saying it will take the
 destruction of the French Quarter for a new world of light
 to dawn?
 
 I don't think I said that Americans *deserve* the
 Great Depression Squared in a karmic sense (although
 there is certainly a case to be made for that), or
 that such an event would be the result of some kind
 of Natural Law, only that an event of that magni-
 tude may be what is necessary to wake them up.
 They're that far gone.  I don't think that they'll
 really do anything to change things until they're
 starving in the streets.

But I feel it's going to be global. Some doomsayers, whom part of me tends
to believe, predict that we're on the verge of a culling which will kill off
a majority of the world's population.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance

2005-10-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
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   Judy:
  snip
That's why I say he's a mistake--it's as if the
trends of time took a detour they weren't supposed
to take and got stuck in a dead end.
   
   A: 
   Do you know that to be absolutely true? Where would you be 
   without that thought?
   
   If a leader is a reflection of the consciousness of their 
   citizens and Bush is mediocre -- Bush  doesn't have *stature*, 
   tragic flaws, isn't worthy of a history play, isn't an 
   interesting personality, etc. then perhaps America is 
   getting enlightened and is simply less attached to (any 
   significance of) its imperfections, outer projections, and 
   returning karma. And/or Bush is simply a method 
   to help culture such an awareness in America's collective 
   consciousness.
  
  By golly, I never thought of it that way.  Heaven on
  Earth is truly dawning before our very eyes!
 
 The operative word is perhaps. And perhaps an OSF would have
 helped clarify the intent of the thought.

Clear to me.  Very clever.

 But its as substantial a theory as any others put forth. 
 Personally, I don't give great weight to any. By golly.

I really wasn't proposing a theory, just trying to
describe what the present climate *feels* like--i.e.,
on the feeling level--to me, and I suspect to many
of my politically like-minded contemporaries.  It's
this huge sense of incongruity, like going after a
flea with an elephant gun, but you *have* to, because
the flea is causing such chaos and devastation.  It's
all way out of proportion.






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[FairfieldLife] A message from Bevan Morris: Maharishi on cell phones

2005-10-08 Thread Rick Archer
Title: A message from Bevan Morris: Maharishi on cell phones





Dear Faculty and Ideal Administrators:

One point Maharishi mentioned during the Golden Jubilee Guru Purnima 
Celebration was to avoid cell phones because of radiation.

I would like to ask everyone to do this for the sake of your lasting good 
health.

I think we should have cell phones only as an emergency device, and not use 
them as a regular way of talking and working. Even for emergency use, it's 
best to use cell phones with speakers in them that can be held away from the 
head, or using a plastic air-tube and ear-piece, which do not contain metal 
conductors and which also allow the cell phone to be distanced from the 
head.

Cordless telephones seem to pose the same hazards as cell phones.

I realize that there is a great deal of convenience in the use of cell 
phones, and it can save critical time. But better to find a way to always 
conduct business on a land-line, not on a cell phone. Perhaps you will have 
suggestions on we can communicate with someone urgently without risking 
their brain through radiation from these phones.

I would also like to make sure that you test the area around your desk to 
see that radiation from power sources and electronic devices is not reaching 
you at dangerous levels. I am asking our Safety Director James Bedinger and 
Jefferson Aikens to provide you with guidelines and measuring instruments 
that will allow you to do this.

Wishing you perfect health and a long long life in immortality,

Jai Guru Dev

Bevan






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[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's designated successor.. (was Re: A scolding for Maharishi...)

2005-10-08 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel 
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   Sex, sex and more sex/
   
   
  He might also do some cognizing of his own sexuality. 
 
 Have you reviewed message eight one nine six recently,
 Science o' Fabundance? (Must be discreet. Bottoms got 
 smacked at the time). Any update on Skem?
 Uns.

I just checked 8196 - old news.  Go back further (in time and in 
this  group) and you will read a more nuanced (comprehensive?) view 
of Mr. Bev's sexuality. 

Latest news from Skem: BIG community meeting last week. Upshot: 
The locals have permission to seek to recreate their community 
elsewhere in England (site already identified).  The developer of 
the site (the lucky guy! - not being sexist here, just rushing), 
must give 1/3 of all profits to International, 1/3 to British 
National (i.e. to an organization that is not doing anything right 
now), and he gets to keep a 1/3 for his little old self.  As you can 
imagine, developers are coming to Skem in droves waving their Raams. 
More generally, a lot of good old British denial in Skem at the 
moment,  but what has happened is slowly sinking in. 

That's all for now, 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Mel Gibson's The Passion of Christ

2005-10-08 Thread Peter
I really liked it.

--- TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Did anyone see it?  I resisted it all this time,
 but to use up the last prepaid credits at a Paris
 DVD-rental place, I rented it and am watching it
 now.  My first impression, about 20 minutes into
 it, is that I should have rented something better,
 like Plan 9 from Outer Space.
 
 So far, however, it IS an interesting picture of
 Missing The Point Of The Spiritual Quest Entirely.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Men's and women's peaces palaces on MUM campus

2005-10-08 Thread Peter


--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 On 10/7/05 10:20 PM, Peter
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  --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  
  On 10/7/05 7:32 PM, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  
  It's the manifestation of his knowledge that is
  the gift. If you
  don't value the knowledge, then you miss what
 the
  gift is.
  
  Diluted, commercialized knowledge is a gift?
  
  There's a diamond in there!
 
 Checked it out...sorry Cubic Zirconium...

Ah! Your dharma does not lie with MMY. I found a
scintilating 108 carrot white-blue beauty!



 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Impeach God - (Was: Earthquake in India was merely bad aim...)

2005-10-08 Thread uns_tressor
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 7.6-Magnitude Quake Hits Pakistan, Afghanistan, India
 
 ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (Oct. 8) - A powerful 7.6-magnitude 
 earthquake rocked South Asia on Saturday, killing at 
 least 21 people 

 ...it was really intended for that scorpion nation Britain.

Enough is Enough. The patience of the people is 
exhausted. This sloppy and shoddy workmanship
emanating from the Highest office can no longer
be tolerated. Please send $10 to The Office to 
Impeach God without delay.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance

2005-10-08 Thread feste37
I agree with every word you write here, Judy. I was thinking a few days ago of 
how Bush seems like a Nixon figure now. The indictments are closing in and 
he is looking increasingly isolated and desperate. He is simply a man who is 
not up to the job (although that part is not like Nixon). I saw Bush talk about 
Miers yesterday. First he said she was a fantastic woman. Then he said she 
was honest and open. These are things you might say when giving a 
reference for someone applying for a job as a salesclerk or something, not a 
Supreme Court nominee, who should have a first-class legal mind. Bush is a 
strange aberration in our history, and the sooner we are rid of him the better. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What cracks me up is to see conservatives saying
 things like this (quote from Kathryn Jean Lopez
 on the Corner, National Review Online's group
 blog):
 
 The president just took some questions. To
 sum up his message: She's my girl. She's a
 good girl. Trust me.
 
 I hate this groaning-when-the-president-speaks
 reflex I've had all week on this issue.
 
 We feel your pain, Kathryn.
 
 If they were just griping because Bush wasn't
 conservative enough for them, it wouldn't be
 so satisfying.  But their disgust with the Miers
 nomination (and some previous perceived failures
 they were quieter about) has, it seems, finally
 awakened them to what a shallow, arrogant,
 petty, childish sad sack Bush is.
 
 Or maybe they saw that all along, but now they're
 so pissed they've dropped the pretense.
 
 Don't know how many of you folks were politically
 aware during Watergate, but it feels very much
 like that--except that Bush is so much smaller a
 figure than Nixon.  As horrid as Nixon was, he
 had a certain tragic dignity.  In bringing him
 down, there was a feeling of having accomplished
 something significant, of having righted a major
 wrong.  He was Shakespearean in stature, a real
 villain.
 
 Bush is something that never should have happened
 in the first place, a stupid mistake.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  
  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051008/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_ap_poll
  
  WASHINGTON - Evangelicals, Republican women,
  Southerners and other critical groups in President
  Bush's political coalition are worried about the
  direction the nation is headed and disappointed with
  his performance, an AP-Ipsos poll found. 
  
  That unease could be a troubling sign for a White
  House already struggling to keep the Republican Party
  base from slipping over Supreme Court nominee Harriet
  Miers, Gulf Coast spending projects, immigration and
  other issues.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Mel Gibson's The Passion of Christ

2005-10-08 Thread Bhairitu
Some friends rented it a year ago when I was vacationing with them.  We 
ripped it apart.   You get the impression that the phrase Jesus died 
for your sins was really aimed at the group that voted for his death.  
No there is nothing much spiritual about this film.

I saw Serenity this last week since I enjoyed the Firefly series on 
DVD.  It is not a particularly great movie as the director is still in 
TV phase and overstated stuff a bit but still worth a see.

I also rented Inside Deep Throat (not for the bliss ninny set) and 
thought it was an excellent documentary that explores the sexual 
attitudes of the 1970's.

One preview I saw with Serenity that looked interesting is AeonFlux with 
Charlize Theron:
www.aeonflux.com

- Bhairitu
 

TurquoiseB wrote:

Did anyone see it?  I resisted it all this time,
but to use up the last prepaid credits at a Paris
DVD-rental place, I rented it and am watching it
now.  My first impression, about 20 minutes into
it, is that I should have rented something better,
like Plan 9 from Outer Space.

So far, however, it IS an interesting picture of
Missing The Point Of The Spiritual Quest Entirely.








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[FairfieldLife] Financial Catastrophe

2005-10-08 Thread anonymousff
... According to Senators Tom Coburn (R-OK) and Barack Obama (D-IL),
FEMA has entered a no-bid contract with Carnival Cruise Lines for $192
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[FairfieldLife] Re cert techers returning and Investing in FF a joke, CAFO

2005-10-08 Thread pibssmith
A local FF friend told me that many recert teachers are returning as 
they did not meet their quotas of teaching 2 people per month and 
the movement thus has not paid them. I dont know how many this is 
but I would say as a whole yet another failed project we will not 
even hear about. It will just fade away like the pundits. And if the 
peace palaces that are suppose to arrive to FF come as fast as the 
pundits yet another failed project. It is a wonder anyone would 
follow the TMO at this point I just don't get it.

On another front they  MUM someone are building 4 small SV houses in 
the parking lot in Utopia Park this and the plan to build more is in 
this weeks MUM review at all news stands in FF at all the shops. YOu 
can see the dirt being cleared. OK sounds good get rid of trailers 
build some small SV houses for anyone who wants to rent or own them 
and at $110 a ft so we know they wont be grand but Ok still OK. Then 
we get a letter today from Scott Herried heading this project up  
for MUM looking for investors to form an LLC to fund this little 
venture saying that is a demand for SV rental which may be true, is 
true. However if you are a wise person you are not investing anymore 
in FF nor buying at the moment nothing appreciates here nothing has 
even been a good investment except for a short period when there was 
a building boom but ask Doug Greenfield who is sitting on empty 
office space and now investing in Fl himself. To add to the already 
volitil market here we now have to content with CAFO  www.Jfan.org 
for those who want more info on the hogs. It is a joke invest? I 
will be happy if I can sell my house some day.

Back at the ranch I know of a couple that just bought that house on 
B St whose back yard faces the Grants near Earls for close to $399 
as the price of building the size they wanted went up to $600K and 
some others are still planning to build as they are under the 
illusion they will sell their mansions. Some are waiting to sell 
first like Huggins and other like Hurlin's are already building an 
addition on to some Abundant Ecco village house when their old house 
has not sold and probably wont for the price they want or maybe at 
any price.  Nichols think they can sell their cute house but dont 
kow where they will go but want vastu and other various people that 
cant really afford to are building $500 houses just to have vastu as 
MMY says too. I guess it is all relative if you have the money but 
this town is the riskiest investment on the planet and MUM wants to 
raise a private group of investors to build these SV houses on 
campus telling us it is a great investment. Well guess they will 
find some suckers out there. Oh and the Marcus are now trying to 
dump their house at any price as they bought the Grants. It may 
serve their needs the Grants who am I to judge but their exisitin 
house is so much nicer just not SV but it is big kids are gone and 
it is 2 stories they probably dont want it and they are pretty 
fanatical SV fans and Grants log house is one story but needed alot 
of upgrades and pardon me Rick as your sister lives on that street 
is it a dump of a neighborhood but they do it for SV go figure? what 
a town.  Even Patti Hamilton local realtor says it is amazing what 
people are giving up to have smaller not as well build SV. I am 
thinking if the hog thing goes thru the in town houses may be come 
slightly more desirable again SV or not than the country SV houses. 
This town it all depends on which way the winds blows. Pun intended.
There is a CAFO going up on Pleasant Plain right across the street 
from Cambridge's new offices. You cant really tell but the trucks 
were there this week putting in the electrical for the barbed wire. 
I guess those involved know the signs and locations. Eric  adn his 
wife and Cambridge are filing their own law suit and the home owners 
in that area are additionally filing one. I hope it stops it. The 
more we can sue and discourage this and other corporations the 
closer will be to getting this out of our town as a factor and will 
be known to others as a town they should stay away from us as  we 
are a  rich proactive town and will keep them busy in court. the 
wealthy home owners who live in the country are really in trouble 
and should be footing this bill as best they can since they have the 
money and are most affected not that we all don't want to help but 
we cant afford what they can and we don't stand to lose as much on 
property value although alot to us and equal to all in quality of 
life and health risks. It really is a big problem. It is hard to 
belive that many are so oblivious and are buying new expensive SV 
homes with this threat. I would be waiting. So many big mansions SV 
in the country will now be involved in law suits amazing.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re cert teachers returning and Investing in FF a joke, CAFO

2005-10-08 Thread Rick Archer
Thanks for the news. My sister says the sale of the Grant's house to the
Marcus's fell through. There are subcultures in FF which are quite oblivious
to what happens in the TM/MUM world. The university could disappear entirely
(not that I want it to) and I could be quite happy living here and have
plenty of wonderful friends. But if the pig thing gets out of hand, none of
us may want to live here but most of won't be able to afford to sell our
houses and move elsewhere. Let's hope, as you say, that the rich folks fight
the pig thing tooth and nail. They have enough money to stop it if it can be
stopped, and hopefully they have the determination.





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[FairfieldLife] How much sleep do enlightened beings need?

2005-10-08 Thread Vaj
Title: How much sleep do enlightened beings need?






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his belt, relaxed in his seat and exhaled. Then he just sat there with 
wide-open eyes, still breathing deeply. He might have been asleep or not, 
but he didn't move for an hour, still with open eyes. Then he cleared his 
throat loudly and his breathing went back to normal. The sound was enough to 
signal his attendant to prepare morning tea. That was how Old Khyentse 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: A message from Bevan Morris: Maharishi on cell phones

2005-10-08 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Faculty and Ideal Administrators:
multi snips 

 I think we should have cell phones only as an emergency device, 
and not use
 them as a regular way of talking and working. Even for emergency 
use, it's
 best to use cell phones with speakers in them that can be held 
away from the
 head, or using a plastic air-tube and ear-piece, which do not 
contain metal
 conductors and which also allow the cell phone to be distanced 
from the
 head.
 


I don't have a problem with the possibility that cellphones may pose 
a microwave radiation hazard, but I think Bevan is a little shaky on 
the concept: it's the transmitter/antenna that broadcasts the 
radiation, not the speakers, and it does not make any difference 
whether metal parts that are not transmitters are close to the head, 
as they would not be conducting the radiation:

CellAntenna Corporation, a
leading provider of solutions that solve cellular communication 
problems,
today announced the potential health benefits of its external 
cellular antenna
products.  According to Howard Melamed, CEO of CellAntenna 
Corporation,
external cellular antennas drastically decrease the cellular phones 
level of
microwave radiation absorbed by the human body when used properly.
Studies examining the health effects of prolonged exposure to 
cellular
phone electromagnetic radiation (EMR) have been inconclusive or have 
produced
mixed results.  But the reality is that cellular phones emit 
microwave signals
that are partially absorbed by the body as users make and receive 
calls on
cellular phones.  The radiation level produced by cellular phones is
exacerbated by environmental interference and sparse cellular 
signals, as
phones are engineered to operate at full power while in areas with a 
limited
cellular signal.
Cell phone users can route the cellular radiation away by 
installing an
external antenna that connects to their cell phone via an adapter.  
The
antenna is then placed at a distance away from them.  Additionally, 
external
antennas reduce the radiation power output level of cell phones by 
helping
them relay their signals more efficiently to the nearest cellular 
towers.
Having lower power output has the added effect of lowering battery 
power
consumption and increasing talk time.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Re cert techers returning and Investing in FF a joke, CAFO

2005-10-08 Thread pibssmith
Legally they can do it but we can deter them with nuisance law suits 
and all help but writing our legislators. We cant take it lying down.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pibssmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
 snip
 
  There is a CAFO going up on Pleasant Plain right across the 
street 
  from Cambridge's new offices. You cant really tell but the 
trucks 
  were there this week putting in the electrical for the barbed 
wire. 
  I guess those involved know the signs and locations. Eric  adn 
his 
  wife and Cambridge are filing their own law suit and the home 
owners 
  in that area are additionally filing one. I hope it stops it. 
The 
  more we can sue and discourage this and other corporations the 
  closer will be to getting this out of our town as a factor and 
will 
  be known to others as a town they should stay away from us as  
we 
  are a  rich proactive town and will keep them busy in court. 
 
 ***
 
 I'm re-posting this article from the Ottumwa Courier on Jefferson 
 County's hog lot (CAFO) problem, because it notes that counties 
used 
 to have control of such operations (as Missouri counties still 
do), 
 but the Iowa legislature moved control of hog lots from counties 
to 
 the state in the 1990s, and there is not much any lawsuit can do 
to 
 stop the proliferation of these lots -- only restoring control 
over 
 the lots to the counties will do the job. That way poor counties 
like 
 Van Buren can open their doors to hogs, and wealthier counties can 
 keep hog lots out:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/besw9
 
 Fairfield residents vow to keep hog lot 'out of our yard' 
  
  By:ERIKA RICHARDS, Ottumwa Courier Correspondent  09/22/2005 
  
 State legislator John Whitaker, a Democrat from Hillsboro and hog 
 producer, said the heart of the problem is loss of local control.
 Counties in Missouri to our south still have local control and 
can 
 keep the CAFO's out if they want to.  Property rights are equal to 
 CAFO rights, he said.
 Local control was taken away during the 1990s, he said and, the 
state 
 needs to retain local control once again.
 Whitaker said hog prices are very good right now explaining the 
boom 
 in hog production.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Re cert teachers returning and Investing in FF a joke, CAFO

2005-10-08 Thread pibssmith
Wonder what happened with Marcus and Grant house? Did she say. 
Marcus house still has a for sale sign on it. Guess they want out 
and SV. Curious why it fell out. Maybe inspection logs? There were 
several cracked ones but I though this to be normal. had to be 
something like that.  Can you find out?

 Thanks for the news. My sister says the sale of the Grant's house 
to the
 Marcus's fell through. There are subcultures in FF which are quite 
oblivious
 to what happens in the TM/MUM world. The university could 
disappear entirely
 (not that I want it to) and I could be quite happy living here and 
have
 plenty of wonderful friends. But if the pig thing gets out of 
hand, none of
 us may want to live here but most of won't be able to afford to 
sell our
 houses and move elsewhere. Let's hope, as you say, that the rich 
folks fight
 the pig thing tooth and nail. They have enough money to stop it if 
it can be
 stopped, and hopefully they have the determination.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: A message from Bevan Morris: Maharishi on cell phones

2005-10-08 Thread clucere
Experiments have shown that the antenna radiation travels up the wire ear- 
piece cord to the ear-piece at the head.  An ear-piece with an air-tube to 
the ear-piece at the head prevents the radiation from traveling up the 
wire cord and being radiated at the head.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dear Faculty and Ideal Administrators:
 multi snips 
 
  I think we should have cell phones only as an emergency device, 
 and not use
  them as a regular way of talking and working. Even for emergency 
 use, it's
  best to use cell phones with speakers in them that can be held 
 away from the
  head, or using a plastic air-tube and ear-piece, which do not 
 contain metal
  conductors and which also allow the cell phone to be distanced 
 from the
  head.
  
 
 
 I don't have a problem with the possibility that cellphones may pose 
 a microwave radiation hazard, but I think Bevan is a little shaky on 
 the concept: it's the transmitter/antenna that broadcasts the 
 radiation, not the speakers, and it does not make any difference 
 whether metal parts that are not transmitters are close to the head, 
 as they would not be conducting the radiation:
 
 CellAntenna Corporation, a
 leading provider of solutions that solve cellular communication 
 problems,
 today announced the potential health benefits of its external 
 cellular antenna
 products.  According to Howard Melamed, CEO of CellAntenna 
 Corporation,
 external cellular antennas drastically decrease the cellular phones 
 level of
 microwave radiation absorbed by the human body when used properly.
 Studies examining the health effects of prolonged exposure to 
 cellular
 phone electromagnetic radiation (EMR) have been inconclusive or have 
 produced
 mixed results.  But the reality is that cellular phones emit 
 microwave signals
 that are partially absorbed by the body as users make and receive 
 calls on
 cellular phones.  The radiation level produced by cellular phones is
 exacerbated by environmental interference and sparse cellular 
 signals, as
 phones are engineered to operate at full power while in areas with a 
 limited
 cellular signal.
 Cell phone users can route the cellular radiation away by 
 installing an
 external antenna that connects to their cell phone via an adapter.  
 The
 antenna is then placed at a distance away from them.  Additionally, 
 external
 antennas reduce the radiation power output level of cell phones by 
 helping
 them relay their signals more efficiently to the nearest cellular 
 towers.
 Having lower power output has the added effect of lowering battery 
 power
 consumption and increasing talk time.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re cert techers returning and Investing in FF a joke, CAFO

2005-10-08 Thread Peter
If people think they are going to get enlightened by
living in SV houses they are complete fools. Why MMY
is shilling SV is beyond me. Realization has
absolutely nothing to do with the shape or the
orientation of the house you live in. Some effect on
energy? Sure, why not, but enlightenment? No way.
Enlightenment dependent on the shape and orientation
of the house you live in! It's a joke! MMY is making a
funny. 

--- pibssmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A local FF friend told me that many recert teachers
 are returning as 
 they did not meet their quotas of teaching 2 people
 per month and 
 the movement thus has not paid them. I dont know how
 many this is 
 but I would say as a whole yet another failed
 project we will not 
 even hear about. It will just fade away like the
 pundits. And if the 
 peace palaces that are suppose to arrive to FF come
 as fast as the 
 pundits yet another failed project. It is a wonder
 anyone would 
 follow the TMO at this point I just don't get it.
 
 On another front they  MUM someone are building 4
 small SV houses in 
 the parking lot in Utopia Park this and the plan to
 build more is in 
 this weeks MUM review at all news stands in FF at
 all the shops. YOu 
 can see the dirt being cleared. OK sounds good get
 rid of trailers 
 build some small SV houses for anyone who wants to
 rent or own them 
 and at $110 a ft so we know they wont be grand but
 Ok still OK. Then 
 we get a letter today from Scott Herried heading
 this project up  
 for MUM looking for investors to form an LLC to fund
 this little 
 venture saying that is a demand for SV rental which
 may be true, is 
 true. However if you are a wise person you are not
 investing anymore 
 in FF nor buying at the moment nothing appreciates
 here nothing has 
 even been a good investment except for a short
 period when there was 
 a building boom but ask Doug Greenfield who is
 sitting on empty 
 office space and now investing in Fl himself. To add
 to the already 
 volitil market here we now have to content with CAFO
  www.Jfan.org 
 for those who want more info on the hogs. It is a
 joke invest? I 
 will be happy if I can sell my house some day.
 
 Back at the ranch I know of a couple that just
 bought that house on 
 B St whose back yard faces the Grants near Earls for
 close to $399 
 as the price of building the size they wanted went
 up to $600K and 
 some others are still planning to build as they are
 under the 
 illusion they will sell their mansions. Some are
 waiting to sell 
 first like Huggins and other like Hurlin's are
 already building an 
 addition on to some Abundant Ecco village house when
 their old house 
 has not sold and probably wont for the price they
 want or maybe at 
 any price.  Nichols think they can sell their cute
 house but dont 
 kow where they will go but want vastu and other
 various people that 
 cant really afford to are building $500 houses just
 to have vastu as 
 MMY says too. I guess it is all relative if you have
 the money but 
 this town is the riskiest investment on the planet
 and MUM wants to 
 raise a private group of investors to build these SV
 houses on 
 campus telling us it is a great investment. Well
 guess they will 
 find some suckers out there. Oh and the Marcus are
 now trying to 
 dump their house at any price as they bought the
 Grants. It may 
 serve their needs the Grants who am I to judge but
 their exisitin 
 house is so much nicer just not SV but it is big
 kids are gone and 
 it is 2 stories they probably dont want it and they
 are pretty 
 fanatical SV fans and Grants log house is one story
 but needed alot 
 of upgrades and pardon me Rick as your sister lives
 on that street 
 is it a dump of a neighborhood but they do it for SV
 go figure? what 
 a town.  Even Patti Hamilton local realtor says it
 is amazing what 
 people are giving up to have smaller not as well
 build SV. I am 
 thinking if the hog thing goes thru the in town
 houses may be come 
 slightly more desirable again SV or not than the
 country SV houses. 
 This town it all depends on which way the winds
 blows. Pun intended.
 There is a CAFO going up on Pleasant Plain right
 across the street 
 from Cambridge's new offices. You cant really tell
 but the trucks 
 were there this week putting in the electrical for
 the barbed wire. 
 I guess those involved know the signs and locations.
 Eric  adn his 
 wife and Cambridge are filing their own law suit and
 the home owners 
 in that area are additionally filing one. I hope it
 stops it. The 
 more we can sue and discourage this and other
 corporations the 
 closer will be to getting this out of our town as a
 factor and will 
 be known to others as a town they should stay away
 from us as  we 
 are a  rich proactive town and will keep them busy
 in court. the 
 wealthy home owners who live in the country are
 really in trouble 
 and should be footing this bill as best they can
 since they have the 
 money and are most affected not that we 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re cert teachers returning and Investing in FF a joke, CAFO

2005-10-08 Thread Rick Archer
Don't know if she'll know, but I'll ask.


on 10/8/05 5:22 PM, pibssmith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wonder what happened with Marcus and Grant house? Did she say.
 Marcus house still has a for sale sign on it. Guess they want out
 and SV. Curious why it fell out. Maybe inspection logs? There were
 several cracked ones but I though this to be normal. had to be
 something like that.  Can you find out?
 
 Thanks for the news. My sister says the sale of the Grant's house
 to the
 Marcus's fell through. There are subcultures in FF which are quite
 oblivious
 to what happens in the TM/MUM world. The university could
 disappear entirely
 (not that I want it to) and I could be quite happy living here and
 have
 plenty of wonderful friends. But if the pig thing gets out of
 hand, none of
 us may want to live here but most of won't be able to afford to
 sell our
 houses and move elsewhere. Let's hope, as you say, that the rich
 folks fight
 the pig thing tooth and nail. They have enough money to stop it if
 it can be
 stopped, and hopefully they have the determination.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Re cert techers returning and Investing in FF a joke, CAFO

2005-10-08 Thread feste37
It seems so ironic that after well over 20 years of trying to establish a large 
group here in FF, we've finally managed to get the numbers we need, with the 
only problem being that they're hogs, not people.

I wish we could deter these CAFOs by using animal cruelty laws, but in Iowa 
these are weak and do not apply to livestock as long as you can argue that 
what you are doing is standard practice. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pibssmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Legally they can do it but we can deter them with nuisance law suits 
 and all help but writing our legislators. We cant take it lying down.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pibssmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  
  snip
  
   There is a CAFO going up on Pleasant Plain right across the 
 street 
   from Cambridge's new offices. You cant really tell but the 
 trucks 
   were there this week putting in the electrical for the barbed 
 wire. 
   I guess those involved know the signs and locations. Eric  adn 
 his 
   wife and Cambridge are filing their own law suit and the home 
 owners 
   in that area are additionally filing one. I hope it stops it. 
 The 
   more we can sue and discourage this and other corporations the 
   closer will be to getting this out of our town as a factor and 
 will 
   be known to others as a town they should stay away from us as  
 we 
   are a  rich proactive town and will keep them busy in court. 
  
  ***
  
  I'm re-posting this article from the Ottumwa Courier on Jefferson 
  County's hog lot (CAFO) problem, because it notes that counties 
 used 
  to have control of such operations (as Missouri counties still 
 do), 
  but the Iowa legislature moved control of hog lots from counties 
 to 
  the state in the 1990s, and there is not much any lawsuit can do 
 to 
  stop the proliferation of these lots -- only restoring control 
 over 
  the lots to the counties will do the job. That way poor counties 
 like 
  Van Buren can open their doors to hogs, and wealthier counties can 
  keep hog lots out:
  
  http://tinyurl.com/besw9
  
  Fairfield residents vow to keep hog lot 'out of our yard' 
   
   By:ERIKA RICHARDS, Ottumwa Courier Correspondent  09/22/2005 
   
  State legislator John Whitaker, a Democrat from Hillsboro and hog 
  producer, said the heart of the problem is loss of local control.
  Counties in Missouri to our south still have local control and 
 can 
  keep the CAFO's out if they want to.  Property rights are equal to 
  CAFO rights, he said.
  Local control was taken away during the 1990s, he said and, the 
 state 
  needs to retain local control once again.
  Whitaker said hog prices are very good right now explaining the 
 boom 
  in hog production.
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: How much sleep do enlightened beings need? (story)

2005-10-08 Thread eptfnj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One night, I wanted to see for myself how Old Khyentse slept.

My favorite story about Dilgo Kyentse Rinpoche. It was written
years ago in the Shambala Sun.

Thomas Rich had already been appointed as Vajra Regent and
Kyentse Rinpoche was invited by Trungpa to the US.

Kyentse asked the Regent to stop by later that evening
because He wanted to say something important. It was
written that the Regent stopped by the Rinpoches room
after most people had retired. As i recall, this is how
the Regent relayed the incident.

He motioned me to come close. Leaning over He whispered
into my ear Remember always to be kind, people are
depending on you. This was all He said that evening.

This is an example of the Ear-Whispered pith instructions
that seem to have been lost











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mel Gibson's The Passion of Christ

2005-10-08 Thread eptfnj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So far, however, it IS an interesting picture of
 Missing The Point Of The Spiritual Quest Entirely.


Hmm, and you offer WHAT/WHO in comparison?

You raise being clueless to an Art Form.
















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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mel Gibson's The Passion of Christ

2005-10-08 Thread eptfnj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Some friends rented it a year ago when I was vacationing with them.  
 We ripped it apart.   You get the impression that the phrase Jesus 
 died for your sins was really aimed at the group that voted for his 
 death.  No there is nothing much spiritual about this film.

There is far less spirituality in boucing on your ass to raise
consciousness or thinking that the orientation of your house,
roof ornaments and other such stuff.

Plain  simple - Fuck You!








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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How much sleep do enlightened beings need? (story)

2005-10-08 Thread Vaj



On 10/8/05 7:39 PM, eptfnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One night, I wanted to see for myself how Old Khyentse slept.
 
 My favorite story about Dilgo Kyentse Rinpoche. It was written
 years ago in the Shambala Sun.
 
 Thomas Rich had already been appointed as Vajra Regent and
 Kyentse Rinpoche was invited by Trungpa to the US.
 
 Kyentse asked the Regent to stop by later that evening
 because He wanted to say something important. It was
 written that the Regent stopped by the Rinpoches room
 after most people had retired. As i recall, this is how
 the Regent relayed the incident.
 
 He motioned me to come close. Leaning over He whispered
 into my ear Remember always to be kind, people are
 depending on you. This was all He said that evening.
 
 This is an example of the Ear-Whispered pith instructions
 that seem to have been lost

One of the most interesting stories I had heard was from someone who was on
retreat and went outside at night to relieve themselves. They saw all these
fires around Dilgo Khyentse's cabin. Occasionally they would see then coming
from inside his cabin. He mentioned this to Khyentse's wife and she said
that they were guardians which he was communicating with--and of course he
was famous for receiving and then teaching various gnostic mind treasures.

Incidentally old Khyentse in the original post refers to Jamyang Khyentse
Wangpo who IIRC divided his reincarnation mindstream into 25 different
emanations. Blazing Splendor is filled with stories of the dudes.




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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mel Gibson's The Passion of Christ

2005-10-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eptfnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  So far, however, it IS an interesting picture of
  Missing The Point Of The Spiritual Quest Entirely.
 
 
 Hmm, and you offer WHAT/WHO in comparison?
 
 You raise being clueless to an Art Form.

He'll take that as a great compliment, I suspect.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's girls! Read this!

2005-10-08 Thread Robert Gimbel
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bevans_celibacy 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a partial list of movement women that H.E. Bevan Morris, 
the 
 Minister of Enlightenment, has been romantically  linked to.  Any 
 additions or corrections?  Who should we out next?  John 
Hagelin? 
 Emmanuel Schiffgens?
 
 1. Rowan Barnden
 2. Penny Bell
 3. Susan Daniels
 4. Susie Dilbeck
 5. Lynda Raimondi Dimick
 6. Margie Dubois
 7. Francie Greenfield
 8. Linda Hartnett
 9. Ann Hauptman
 10. Emily Levin
 11. Wendy Mukai
 12. Barbara Ringwalt
 13. Barbara Aprusezze Robson
 14. Karen Rubin
 15. Coral Scranton
 16. Lane Todt
 17. Sue Weller







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's girls! Read this!

2005-10-08 Thread Robert Gimbel
Wowie, Zowie!!
I guess the girls do find power to be a great aphrodisiac.

-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bevans_celibacy 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a partial list of movement women that H.E. Bevan Morris, 
the 
 Minister of Enlightenment, has been romantically  linked to.  Any 
 additions or corrections?  Who should we out next?  John 
Hagelin? 
 Emmanuel Schiffgens?
 
 1. Rowan Barnden
 2. Penny Bell
 3. Susan Daniels
 4. Susie Dilbeck
 5. Lynda Raimondi Dimick
 6. Margie Dubois
 7. Francie Greenfield
 8. Linda Hartnett
 9. Ann Hauptman
 10. Emily Levin
 11. Wendy Mukai
 12. Barbara Ringwalt
 13. Barbara Aprusezze Robson
 14. Karen Rubin
 15. Coral Scranton
 16. Lane Todt
 17. Sue Weller







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[FairfieldLife] SV Housing: Less Negativity or Enlightenment

2005-10-08 Thread akasha_108
Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If people think they are going to get enlightened by
 living in SV houses they are complete fools. Why MMY
 is shilling SV is beyond me. Realization has
 absolutely nothing to do with the shape or the
 orientation of the house you live in. Some effect on
 energy? Sure, why not, but enlightenment? No way.
 Enlightenment dependent on the shape and orientation
 of the house you live in! It's a joke! MMY is making a
 funny. 


I have heard MMY say that SV housing decreases negative influences,
and makes life more prosperous etc. I don't actually remember him
saying that people are going to get enlightened by simply living in SV
houses. Do you have a quote? 

Btw (just for fun) were you living in a house when enlightenment
happened? Were most other enlightened ones also living in houses when
IT occurred? If so, there seems to be a high correlation between
housing and enlightenment. By golly, perhaps simply living in houses
will get people enlightened. 

Correlation is not causation you rebute. Of course its not. So what
is the Causation of Enlightenment? Nothing? 

Then why do anything, if there is no cause? Why are you not also
rejecting all tools, crutches and sadhanas? Or perhaps you are?

No causes, only perhaps Grace you respond -- or do you?

Increased satva perhaps? Does that set up conditions for Grace to
descend per your view? If so, could SV housing possibly have a direct
or indirect effect on satva?






 





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[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's designated successor.. (was Re: A scolding for Maharishi...)

2005-10-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  on 10/6/05 5:18 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
   1st para, It's now official..?
   
   Well, that's what MMY said.
  
  MMY - forever stretching one's concept of what enlightenment is.
 
 Indeed.  The definition gains more weight every day.
 
 

Arjuna: What are the signs of an Enlightened One?
Krishna: Well, you can be sure that they don't look like Bevan 
Morris. All else is open to interpretation.


Lost verse from BG.

   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
   on 10/6/05 2:37 PM, peterklutz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
   
   Any one seen the Oct 5, 2005 press conference?
   
   It's now official: the Prime Minister of the Global Country 
of 
 World
   Peace, His Excellency Dr Bevan Morris, is Enlightened and is 
 capable
   of answering any question as well as handling any task.
 







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[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's designated successor.. (was Re: A scolding for Maharishi...)

2005-10-08 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Sex, sex and more sex/


   He might also do some cognizing of his own sexuality. 
  
  Have you reviewed message eight one nine six recently,
  Science o' Fabundance? (Must be discreet. Bottoms got 
  smacked at the time). Any update on Skem?
  Uns.
 
 I just checked 8196 - old news.  Go back further (in time and in 
 this  group) and you will read a more nuanced (comprehensive?) view 
 of Mr. Bev's sexuality. 
 
 Latest news from Skem: BIG community meeting last week. Upshot: 
 The locals have permission to seek to recreate their community 
 elsewhere in England (site already identified).  The developer of 
 the site (the lucky guy! - not being sexist here, just rushing), 
 must give 1/3 of all profits to International, 1/3 to British 
 National (i.e. to an organization that is not doing anything right 
 now), and he gets to keep a 1/3 for his little old self.  As you can 
 imagine, developers are coming to Skem in droves waving their Raams. 
 More generally, a lot of good old British denial in Skem at the 
 moment,  but what has happened is slowly sinking in. 
 
 That's all for now, 
 SAB


Is the original property for sale? Do you know who owns it? Will the
proceeds be used to develop the next site? (silly question, I know)

JohnY 
PS. Can I have 1/3 ?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Men's and women's peaces palaces on MUM campus

2005-10-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 
 On 10/7/05 7:32 PM, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It's the manifestation of his knowledge that is the gift. If you
  don't value the knowledge, then you miss what the gift is.
 
 Diluted, commercialized knowledge is a gift?


Is it diluted?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Men's and women's peaces palaces on MUM campus

2005-10-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 10/7/05 7:32 PM, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   It's the manifestation of his knowledge that is the gift. If you
   don't value the knowledge, then you miss what the gift is.
  
  Diluted, commercialized knowledge is a gift?
 
 It's an American thang, sorta like Reader's Digest 
 Condensed Books -- Knowledge Light.



There's an interesting fairy tale book i have to get: Travel Light.

I just had a flash on a book called Knowledge Light along the same 
lines.








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[FairfieldLife] Re: more Lynch tour

2005-10-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  yielding positive results from the other schools he's 
  visited, 
with one university in talks to establish a center for the 
  meditation 
practice.  
http://www.washingtonsquarenews.com/news/campus/9934.html
   
   I suspect that all this effort will be wasted if
   Maharishi continues to keep in position his barking 
   mad price list. (Unless, of course, there are realistic
   concessions for students).
   Uns.
  
  
  For me, and for many people, the price would be barking mad for 
  somethingthat was unproven (at least in my personal life). 
However, 
  after 30+ years of practice, I think it's worth far more than 
that. 
  Lynch's choice is to let the price remain high but give students 
 and 
  teachers a chance to learn it for free or for a drastically 
reduced 
  price. That way, people believe they're getting something 
 important, 
  but they don't have to pay the full price.
 
 A nice strategy; but the first thing people want is 
 TM for parents, friends, the local scrotes who break
 into peole's cars and nick radios etc. What about them?
 uns.


Teach the children and all else eventually follows.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Poll: Groups Unhappy With Bush Performance

2005-10-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 10/8/05 5:18 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 And I am *truly* cynical enough to believe
  that it may take a wake up call on the level of the
  Great Depression Squared to shock most Americans out
  of their self-involved lethargy -- politically, eco-
  nomically, ecologically, and in terms of compassion
  for their fellow man.
 
 It's probably coming. A number of probably things could trigger it, 
and Bush
 has done a crackerjack job setting us up for it. Hard to imagine how 
anyone
 could have done more damage in 5 years as president.


Just wait for the next 3...





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's girls! Read this!

2005-10-08 Thread Rick Archer
Isn't this an old post? Like two years ago? I know he was involved with some
of these women but I doubt very much that he was involved with others. Is it
fair to list them like this? Who originally posted this?


on 10/8/05 8:01 PM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bevans_celibacy
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 This is a partial list of movement women that H.E. Bevan Morris,
 the 
 Minister of Enlightenment, has been romantically  linked to.  Any
 additions or corrections?  Who should we out next?  John
 Hagelin? 
 Emmanuel Schiffgens?
 
 1. Rowan Barnden
 2. Penny Bell
 3. Susan Daniels
 4. Susie Dilbeck
 5. Lynda Raimondi Dimick
 6. Margie Dubois
 7. Francie Greenfield
 8. Linda Hartnett
 9. Ann Hauptman
 10. Emily Levin
 11. Wendy Mukai
 12. Barbara Ringwalt
 13. Barbara Aprusezze Robson
 14. Karen Rubin
 15. Coral Scranton
 16. Lane Todt
 17. Sue Weller





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[FairfieldLife] Re: A message from Bevan Morris: Maharishi on cell phones

2005-10-08 Thread sparaig
Lest anyone think this is more paranoid thinking, keep in mind that 
the Motorola engineer who was testing the first prototype DID die of 
a brain tumor on the same side of his head that he held the phone on. 
Motorola then dropped the power output drastically to the point that 
its difficult if impossible to establish a correlation between cell 
phone use and brain cancer.

HOWEVER, brain imaging of people while they are using cell phones 
show that there is a clear effect on brain functioning, at least 
close to the ear that the phone is next to. In young kids (4 or so 
years or younger), the effect goes at least halfway through their 
brain.

No-one knows exactly what this kind of electronnic radiation does to 
the brain, if anything, but I avoid cell phones use though I *will* 
talk to someone for a minute if they ask to talk to me on one.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Faculty and Ideal Administrators:
 
 One point Maharishi mentioned during the Golden Jubilee Guru Purnima
 Celebration was to avoid cell phones because of radiation.
 
 I would like to ask everyone to do this for the sake of your 
lasting good
 health.
 
 I think we should have cell phones only as an emergency device, and 
not use
 them as a regular way of talking and working. Even for emergency 
use, it's
 best to use cell phones with speakers in them that can be held away 
from the
 head, or using a plastic air-tube and ear-piece, which do not 
contain metal
 conductors and which also allow the cell phone to be distanced from 
the
 head.
 
 Cordless telephones seem to pose the same hazards as cell phones.
 
 I realize that there is a great deal of convenience in the use of 
cell
 phones, and it can save critical time. But better to find a way to 
always
 conduct business on a land-line, not on a cell phone. Perhaps you 
will have
 suggestions on we can communicate with someone urgently without 
risking
 their brain through radiation from these phones.
 
 I would also like to make sure that you test the area around your 
desk to
 see that radiation from power sources and electronic devices is not 
reaching
 you at dangerous levels. I am asking our Safety Director James 
Bedinger and
 Jefferson Aikens to provide you with guidelines and measuring 
instruments
 that will allow you to do this.
 
 Wishing you perfect health and a long long life in immortality,
 
 Jai Guru Dev
 
 Bevan







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[FairfieldLife] Re: A message from Bevan Morris: Maharishi on cell phones

2005-10-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dear Faculty and Ideal Administrators:
 multi snips 
 
  I think we should have cell phones only as an emergency device, 
 and not use
  them as a regular way of talking and working. Even for emergency 
 use, it's
  best to use cell phones with speakers in them that can be held 
 away from the
  head, or using a plastic air-tube and ear-piece, which do not 
 contain metal
  conductors and which also allow the cell phone to be distanced 
 from the
  head.
  
 
 
 I don't have a problem with the possibility that cellphones may 
pose 
 a microwave radiation hazard, but I think Bevan is a little shaky 
on 
 the concept: it's the transmitter/antenna that broadcasts the 
 radiation, not the speakers, and it does not make any difference 
 whether metal parts that are not transmitters are close to the 
head, 
 as they would not be conducting the radiation:


Any metal part that is electrically connected to the rest of the 
phone is a transmitter in the gigahertz range -- even the internals 
of your iPod earbud would be.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Re cert techers returning and Investing in FF a joke, CAFO

2005-10-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 If people think they are going to get enlightened by
 living in SV houses they are complete fools. Why MMY
 is shilling SV is beyond me. Realization has
 absolutely nothing to do with the shape or the
 orientation of the house you live in. Some effect on
 energy? Sure, why not, but enlightenment? No way.
 Enlightenment dependent on the shape and orientation
 of the house you live in! It's a joke! MMY is making a
 funny. 

Eating healthy food has an effect on enlightenment's progression, 
assuming that there is a physiological component, of course. Your 
home/work environment should have an effect as well.

I don't think that sv is the thing to have highest on the list of 
priorities, but since it is a passive, 24/7 effect (should it exist), 
its the easiest to continue to engage in (you just live in the SV-
compliant home/office and that aspect of your environment is taken 
care of automatically) and perhaps it would facilitate everything 
else.









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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mel Gibson's The Passion of Christ

2005-10-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eptfnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  So far, however, it IS an interesting picture of
  Missing The Point Of The Spiritual Quest Entirely.
 
 
 Hmm, and you offer WHAT/WHO in comparison?

I would think just about any other treatment of teh same subject could 
be used in the comparison.

 
 You raise being clueless to an Art Form.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mel Gibson's The Passion of Christ

2005-10-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eptfnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Some friends rented it a year ago when I was vacationing with 
them.  
  We ripped it apart.   You get the impression that the phrase Jesus 
  died for your sins was really aimed at the group that voted for 
his 
  death.  No there is nothing much spiritual about this film.
 
 There is far less spirituality in boucing on your ass to raise
 consciousness or thinking that the orientation of your house,
 roof ornaments and other such stuff.
 
 Plain  simple - Fuck You!


I think you missed the point: the treatment by the FILM misses the 
point of Jesus's suffering and death.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mel Gibson's The Passion of Christ

2005-10-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, eptfnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Some friends rented it a year ago when I was vacationing with 
them.  
  We ripped it apart.   You get the impression that the phrase Jesus 
  died for your sins was really aimed at the group that voted for 
his 
  death.  No there is nothing much spiritual about this film.
 
 There is far less spirituality in boucing on your ass to raise
 consciousness or thinking that the orientation of your house,
 roof ornaments and other such stuff.
 
 Plain  simple - Fuck You!


I think you missed the point: the treatment by the FILM misses the 
point of Jesus's suffering and death.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's girls! Read this!

2005-10-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bevans_celibacy 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This is a partial list of movement women that H.E. Bevan Morris, 
 the 
  Minister of Enlightenment, has been romantically  linked to.  Any 
  additions or corrections?  Who should we out next?  John 
 Hagelin? 
  Emmanuel Schiffgens?
  
  1.

Gasp.  A list of GFs of Bevan Morris, alleged or real. Why does anyone 
care?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: A message from Bevan Morris: Maharishi on cell phones

2005-10-08 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  
   Dear Faculty and Ideal Administrators:
  multi snips 
  
   I think we should have cell phones only as an emergency 
device, 
  and not use
   them as a regular way of talking and working. Even for 
emergency 
  use, it's
   best to use cell phones with speakers in them that can be held 
  away from the
   head, or using a plastic air-tube and ear-piece, which do not 
  contain metal
   conductors and which also allow the cell phone to be distanced 
  from the
   head.
   
  
  
  I don't have a problem with the possibility that cellphones may 
 pose 
  a microwave radiation hazard, but I think Bevan is a little 
shaky 
 on 
  the concept: it's the transmitter/antenna that broadcasts the 
  radiation, not the speakers, and it does not make any difference 
  whether metal parts that are not transmitters are close to the 
 head, 
  as they would not be conducting the radiation:
 
 


 Any metal part that is electrically connected to the rest of the 
 phone is a transmitter in the gigahertz range -- even the 
internals 
 of your iPod earbud would be.

***

If that is true (and I am not seeing any evidence that it is), it 
would be at minimal power level, certainly not anywhere near 
approaching the power output of the antenna itself. People walk 
through a maze of minimal electromagnetic output all day long, 
TV/Radio signals, etc, so these minimal outputs are surely not a 
problem like an antenna close to one's head might pose.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mel Gibson's The Passion of Christ

2005-10-08 Thread Bhairitu
eptfnj wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Some friends rented it a year ago when I was vacationing with them.  
We ripped it apart.   You get the impression that the phrase Jesus 
died for your sins was really aimed at the group that voted for his 
death.  No there is nothing much spiritual about this film.



There is far less spirituality in boucing on your ass to raise
consciousness or thinking that the orientation of your house,
roof ornaments and other such stuff.

Plain  simple - Fuck You!

  

How Christian of you.



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