[FairfieldLife] 'Rev. Wright = Hillary's Puppet'
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[FairfieldLife] LSD chemist dies at 102
Dr. Hofmann first synthesized the compound lysergic acid diethylamide in 1938 but did not discover its psychopharmacological effects until five years later, when he accidentally ingested the substance that became known to the 1960s counterculture as acid. He then took LSD hundreds of times, but regarded it as a powerful and potentially dangerous psychotropic drug that demanded respect. More important to him than the pleasures of the psychedelic experience was the drug's value as a revelatory aid for contemplating and understanding what he saw as humanity's oneness with nature. That perception, of union, which came to Dr. Hofmann as almost a religious epiphany while still a child, directed much of his personal and professional life. Dr. Hofmann was born in Baden, a spa town in northern Switzerland, on Jan. 11, 1906, the eldest of four children. His father, who had no higher education, was a toolmaker in a local factory, and the family lived in a rented apartment. But Dr. Hofmann spent much of his childhood outdoors. He would wander the hills above the town and play around the ruins of a Hapsburg castle, the Stein. It was a real paradise up there, he said in an interview in 2006. We had no money, but I had a wonderful childhood. It was during one of his ambles that he had his epiphany. It happened on a May morning I have forgotten the year but I can still point to the exact spot where it occurred, on a forest path on Martinsberg above Baden, he wrote in LSD: My Problem Child. As I strolled through the freshly greened woods filled with bird song and lit up by the morning sun, all at once everything appeared in an uncommonly clear light. It shone with the most beautiful radiance, speaking to the heart, as though it wanted to encompass me in its majesty. I was filled with an indescribable sensation of joy, oneness and blissful security. (more) http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/world/europe/30hofmann.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Hillary a Satanist?
Could just be the sign they use down there in Texas, to celebrate the 'Longhorns', the team they have in those parts... It's also been used for 'Rock On'... So, whatever, whatever,
[FairfieldLife] Jytotish is one man's rubbish, another's man's playground ( Re: Hillary the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty hard to be a Buddha and not be omniscient... I would say instead that it's fairly easy. Omniscience is a fantasy that does not exist in real life. And I suspect that the original Buddha would be the first to agree with this. Not that that makes him omniscient or anything... :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jai Bob
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It could easily be Marley. But that rendezvous was last weekend. Tonight its Dylan. I am a bit behind the curve. No wonder to close readers of FFL. But Dylan is such a cliche, no doubt. But those who dismiss him as passe are missing something grand. I am listening to Modern Times. Released Aug 2006. Prolly heard some of it earlier. But tonight I am quite listening. Bob in the groove. Bob in the corner pocket. Bob keeps pushing the boundary and borderline. And this is after listening to a lot, but hardly all, of earlier righteous works. Those were quite fine. But Bob continues to morph, grow, evolve and hit it. (Damn Rhapsody, only 4-5 songs off the CD. Well, maybe yahoo music is in my future. If they don't short change Artists.) Modern Times became the singer-songwriter's first #1 album in the U.S. since 1976's Desire. At age 65, Dylan became the oldest living person ever to have an album enter the Billboard charts at number one. I never knew. But its sweet that Bob still has the juice. Transformed. Not the earlier Bob, which I still love. But he keeps growing. Like life. One of the things it took me some time to get about Dylan is *how* he stays so flexible and keeps growing. He calls his life the endless tour. The man keeps performing, and is often on the road 200+ nights a year, standing in front of audiences and doing the same old songs, but *never the same way*. It's pretty fascinating to be in the audience and hear him rip into a song that you know all the words to by heart and have it take you until well into the third verse before you recognize the song. He changes the tempo, the melody, and sometimes even the lyrics. The folks in his bands are chosen for their flexibility, because there is never a set list (they don't know what he's going to play next) and they also don't know *how* he's going to play whatever he feels like playing next. They just have to keep up with him, wherever he goes. Think of the alternative...playing the same old set list over and over, and playing each song the same way every time. That just makes you old, and Dylan refuses to get old. He may have advanced in age, but he's never gotten old. Similarly, if you're on a Dylan kick, a fun exercise is to scour the Web and find *outtakes* of your favorite Dylan songs. Sometimes you can find six or seven of them, from the same record- ing session. And each one of them is as different from one another as night and day...hardly the same song at all. After a few sessions of this, you realize that with Dylan there is no such thing as the definitive version of a particular song. There is only the take that was chosen to be on the album, that's all. He probably did 20 different versions of that song in the same session, all of them as good as the one we think of as definitive, but in different ways.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gee, Louis, looks like Obama no longer likes Wright
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have Obama's jyotish chart. His pastor or guru is represented by a malefic Mercury. Mercury is the lord of the 64th navamsha. As such, it very likely that this pastor will seriously damage Obama's chances of getting the Democratic nomination. Wright's Jyotish chart notes that he's black, too. If you read enough into it, that is... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote: I dont understand what is going on or why? Wright maybe working with the Clintons. Or it may be something to keep people from dropping off. I cant tell. shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: What to do, Louis? You've expressed your admiration for BOTH Rev. Wright and Sen. Obama. Yet now Sen. Obama has REALLY distanced himself from the good reverend: http://tinyurl.com/3kcnbb Whose side are you on? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gee, Louis, looks like Obama no longer likes Wright
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: I have Obama's jyotish chart. His pastor or guru is represented by a malefic Mercury. Mercury is the lord of the 64th navamsha. As such, it very likely that this pastor will seriously damage Obama's chances of getting the Democratic nomination. Wright's Jyotish chart notes that he's black, too. If you read enough into it, that is... Meant to type 'Obama' there, not 'Wright,' but whatever... I tell you...the only thing that makes me roll my eyes in disbelief and horror more than people believing in Jyotish and astrology is their seemingly unshakable belief that a person's pastor of choice holds some kind of sway over them, or is a huge influence in their lives. Duh...guys! That's cultthink. That's you remembering all the times YOU did stupid things because Maharishi or some other guru told you to. Normal people don't DO that. They're smarter than that. In this respect, Barack Obama strikes me as pretty damned normal. The problem is not who a candidate chooses to hang with. It's the belief in others that these people, whoever they are, exert an undue influence on the candidate's thinking and decisions. I have a strong suspicion that if you did a study, the people who are most wary of Obama's association with Wright have a history *themselves* of doing what other people tell them to do, rather than thinking for themselves. So they assume that Obama is the same way. I don't see that in the man's life. I see him as a refreshingly normal human being in a country filled with sheep. The sheep can't *get through the day* without being told what to do, and so they're constantly looking for the person or persons who tell Obama what to do. Me, I just look at this whole tempest in a pisspot and say Ba. Grow the fuck up. No one needs a guru or a pastor or a self-appointed hall monitor to tell them what to do and what to think and whether it's right or wrong. Everybody always knows. Give me a candidate any day who knows *this*.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Deniers
On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Richard M wrote: Notice the phrase the world's most prominent scientists rather than the world's most prominent climate or meteorology scientists. This seems to be an appeal to priesthood pedigree rather than scientific rationality? Your conclusion, not mine. But if that's your guiding light, what ad hominem will you deploy to denigrate climate sceptics such as Richard Lindzen, atmospheric physicist Oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; [and] his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels and a speech he wrote, entitled 'Global Warming: the Origin and Nature of Alleged Scientific Consensus,' was underwritten by OPEC. Thanks for proving my point! Yeah I'd trust someone sponsored by OPEC and coal companies to present unbiased material on human impact. and the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology? Or John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville? (continues ad nauseam...) I like some of what Christy says: It is scientifically inconceivable that after changing forests into cities, turning millions of acres into irrigated farmland, putting massive quantities of soot and dust into the air, and putting extra greenhouse gases into the air, that the natural course of climate has not changed in some way. More recently, in a publication in the series Washington Roundtable on Science and Public Policy he said:[5] I showed some evidence that humans are causing warming in the surface measurements that we have but it is not the greenhouse relation. Christy has also said that while he supports the AGU declaration, and is convinced that human activities are a cause of the global warming that has been measured, he is still a strong critic of scientists who make catastrophic predictions of huge increases in global temperatures and tremendous rises in sea levels.[4]
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jai Bob
On Apr 29, 2008, at 10:29 PM, new.morning wrote: It could easily be Marley. But that rendezvous was last weekend. Tonight its Dylan. I am a bit behind the curve. No wonder to close readers of FFL. But Dylan is such a cliche, no doubt. But those who dismiss him as passe are missing something grand. I am listening to Modern Times. Released Aug 2006. Prolly heard some of it earlier. But tonight I am quite listening. Bob in the groove. Bob in the corner pocket. Bob keeps pushing the boundary and borderline. And this is after listening to a lot, but hardly all, of earlier righteous works. Those were quite fine. But Bob continues to morph, grow, evolve and hit it. (Damn Rhapsody, only 4-5 songs off the CD. Well, maybe yahoo music is in my future. If they don't short change Artists.) Modern Times became the singer-songwriter's first #1 album in the U.S. since 1976's Desire. At age 65, Dylan became the oldest living person ever to have an album enter the Billboard charts at number one. I never knew. But its sweet that Bob still has the juice. Transformed. Not the earlier Bob, which I still love. But he keeps growing. Like life. He's put out a couple recently that are excellent. Another overlooked gem is Infidels with Mark Knopfler (along with Mick Taylor) on lead guitar and as producer.
[FairfieldLife] Notes from Satsang Fairfield
We're going to talk about parallel reality. When I've talked to you in the past about dimensions, we've said here's one dimension and here's another dimension, and they're living side by side with one another. But there's also a fabric of consciousness that bleeds back and forth from one dimension to the other. They're not just standing there like soldiers unrelated to each other. There's a gate or fabric of consciousness that's flowing into one, flowing back to the other, flowing here and there. On a practical level, the point at which something splits off, a choice point at which one dimension goes this way and one dimension goes that way, where we are in the world right now we're coming to a major choice point. with possibility going this way and one possibility going that way and one possibility going another way, you really get the feeling of how you can have a fountainhead and things can sprout out of that and each possible parallel reality has an interrelationship with the other ones and they're in a flow together. When you have choice points that are very close like this, there's such a small gap between these three people, essentially what's happening is that the dimensions are closing in on one another. They're collapsing. Whereas before perhaps our experience was that the dimensions were very discrete, so you had a big gap. Now the gap is closing and it's a very small gap. That's why there's a feeling that the depth of difference between these three possibilities actually isn't that big. A dimension is kind of like a membrane. That's why when we work with the chakras, they're such a good example of what a dimension feels like because you can feel these subtle membranes in the chakras moving back and forth. A dimension is like that. It has a certain edge to it, a circumference, and that circumference is very fine. You can move from one edge of that circumference to the next edge and a whole other possible reality opens up. Normally, we are protected from experiencing a parallel reality in any clear way because we're locked into a framework of our dimension. We can only experience what is right here. We don't have the capacity to see outside that bubble. We're kind of locked away in that bubble. There are a lot of good reasons for that. For one thing, it keeps you focused. It keeps you connected to what's going on so you don't bleed out into some other possibility. But as time and consciousness are moving in the way that they are right now, the possibility of perceiving parallel connectivity is much more pronounced, so you can have the capacity to move out into this other level of awareness and still maintain your own.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Notes from Satsang Fairfield
Mtoo many thoughts! --- dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're going to talk about parallel reality. When I've talked to you in the past about dimensions, we've said here's one dimension and here's another dimension, and they're living side by side with one another. But there's also a fabric of consciousness that bleeds back and forth from one dimension to the other. They're not just standing there like soldiers unrelated to each other. There's a gate or fabric of consciousness that's flowing into one, flowing back to the other, flowing here and there. On a practical level, the point at which something splits off, a choice point at which one dimension goes this way and one dimension goes that way, where we are in the world right now we're coming to a major choice point. with possibility going this way and one possibility going that way and one possibility going another way, you really get the feeling of how you can have a fountainhead and things can sprout out of that and each possible parallel reality has an interrelationship with the other ones and they're in a flow together. When you have choice points that are very close like this, there's such a small gap between these three people, essentially what's happening is that the dimensions are closing in on one another. They're collapsing. Whereas before perhaps our experience was that the dimensions were very discrete, so you had a big gap. Now the gap is closing and it's a very small gap. That's why there's a feeling that the depth of difference between these three possibilities actually isn't that big. A dimension is kind of like a membrane. That's why when we work with the chakras, they're such a good example of what a dimension feels like because you can feel these subtle membranes in the chakras moving back and forth. A dimension is like that. It has a certain edge to it, a circumference, and that circumference is very fine. You can move from one edge of that circumference to the next edge and a whole other possible reality opens up. Normally, we are protected from experiencing a parallel reality in any clear way because we're locked into a framework of our dimension. We can only experience what is right here. We don't have the capacity to see outside that bubble. We're kind of locked away in that bubble. There are a lot of good reasons for that. For one thing, it keeps you focused. It keeps you connected to what's going on so you don't bleed out into some other possibility. But as time and consciousness are moving in the way that they are right now, the possibility of perceiving parallel connectivity is much more pronounced, so you can have the capacity to move out into this other level of awareness and still maintain your own. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jytotish is one man's rubbish, another's man's playground ( Re: Hillary the
On Apr 30, 2008, at 2:12 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty hard to be a Buddha and not be omniscient... I would say instead that it's fairly easy. Omniscience is a fantasy that does not exist in real life. And I suspect that the original Buddha would be the first to agree with this. Not that that makes him omniscient or anything... :-) Who is this original Buddha who is not unimpeded?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Deniers - Now: Scientists Demand Removal from Denier List
This story about the sham Heartland Institute is currently breaking: http://www.desmogblog.com/500-scientists-with-documented-doubts-about-the-heartland-institute Dozens of scientists are demanding that their names be removed from a widely distributed Heartland Institute article entitled 500 Scientists with Documented Doubts of Man-Made Global Warming Scares. The article, by Hudson Institute director and Heartland Senior Fellow Dennis T. Avery (inset), purports to list scientists whose work contradicts the overwhelming scientific agreement that human-induced climate change is endangering the world as we know it. DeSmogBlog manager Kevin Grandia emailed 122 of the scientists yesterday afternoon, calling their attention to the list. So far - in less than 24 hours - three dozen of those scientists had responded in outrage, denying that their research supports Avery's conclusions and demanding that their names be removed. This is a brief taste of some of the responses that have been copied to the DeSmogBlog so I am horrified to find my name on such a list. I have spent the last 20 years arguing the opposite. Dr. David Sugden. Professor of Geography, University of Edinburgh have NO doubts ..the recent changes in global climate ARE man-induced. I insist that you immediately remove my name from this list since I did not give you permission to put it there. Dr. Gregory Cutter, Professor, Department of Ocean, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Old Dominion University I don't believe any of my work can be used to support any of the statements listed in the article. Dr. Robert Whittaker, Professor of Biogeography, University of Oxford Please remove my name. What you have done is totally unethical!! Dr. Svante Bjorck, Geo Biosphere Science Centre, Lund University I'm outraged that they've included me as an author of this report. I do not share the views expressed in the summary. Dr. John Clague, Shrum Research Professor, Department of Earth Sciences, Simon Fraser University The DeSmogBlog will follow up with additional postings of scientist reaction as it comes in. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Richard M wrote: Notice the phrase the world's most prominent scientists rather than the world's most prominent climate or meteorology scientists. This seems to be an appeal to priesthood pedigree rather than scientific rationality? Your conclusion, not mine. But if that's your guiding light, what ad hominem will you deploy to denigrate climate sceptics such as Richard Lindzen, atmospheric physicist Oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; [and] his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels and a speech he wrote, entitled 'Global Warming: the Origin and Nature of Alleged Scientific Consensus,' was underwritten by OPEC. Thanks for proving my point! Yeah I'd trust someone sponsored by OPEC and coal companies to present unbiased material on human impact. and the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology? Or John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville? (continues ad nauseam...) I like some of what Christy says: It is scientifically inconceivable that after changing forests into cities, turning millions of acres into irrigated farmland, putting massive quantities of soot and dust into the air, and putting extra greenhouse gases into the air, that the natural course of climate has not changed in some way. More recently, in a publication in the series Washington Roundtable on Science and Public Policy he said:[5] I showed some evidence that humans are causing warming in the surface measurements that we have but it is not the greenhouse relation. Christy has also said that while he supports the AGU declaration, and is convinced that human activities are a cause of the global warming that has been measured, he is still a strong critic of scientists who make catastrophic predictions of huge increases in global temperatures and tremendous rises in sea levels.[4]
[FairfieldLife] ...and this isn't a conflict of interest also?
We've heard on this forum time and time again how the war in Iraq was started and continued because it was in the interest of the corporate pals of the administration, such as Haliburton, to do so. Doesn't the same conflict of interest principle hold true for Al Gore? It has been reported elsewhere that he's made about $100 million in Green companies and investments. Doesn't that fact mean that he has a vested interest in keeping the whole catastrophic man- made global warming fantasy alive for his own personal gain? If it's true for the Administration and Haliburton, isn't it also true for Al Gore and Global Warming? Gore investment body closes $683m fund By Fiona Harvey in London Published: April 29 2008 19:55 | Last updated: April 29 2008 19:55 The investment vehicle headed by Al Gore has closed a new $683m fund to invest in early-stage environmental companies and has mounted a robust defence of green investing. The Climate Solutions Fund will be one of the biggest in the growing market for investment funds with an environmental slant. EDITOR'S CHOICE Climate target eludes Japan-EU - Apr-24Tokyo criticises Bush carbon plan - Apr-18Editorial Comment: Credible climate policy - Apr-18Bush climate strategy falls flat - Apr-17Stern takes bleaker view on warming - Apr-16Bush targets 2025 in move on emissions - Apr-17The fund will be focused on equity investments in small companies in four sectors: renewable energy; energy efficiency technologies; energy from biofuels and biomass; and the carbon trading markets. This is the second fund from Generation Investment Management, chaired by the former vice-president of the US and managed by David Blood, former head of Goldman Sachs Asset Management. The first, the Global Equity Strategy Fund, has $2.2bn invested in large companies the company judges have sustainable businesses, from an environmental, social and economic viewpoint. Mr Blood said he expected that fund to be worth $5bn within two years, based on commitments from interested investors. Mr Blood said raising $683m for the new fund in the midst of market disruption showed the resilience of green investing. The fact we were able to raise $683m was extraordinary, so our experience is that it has not really been a problem [raising funds despite what is] generally a difficult environment, he told the Financial Times. A fear expressed by some is that the first thing to go in a downturn is the nice-to-have sort of investment. Some people put green investments in that category, but we think that is nonsense. This is not nice-to-have it is fundamental finance...because the transition from a high-carbon to a low-carbon economy is a ginormous step that is going to happen quickly, he said. Both Mr Gore and Mr Blood had invested in the new fund to a pretty sizeable extent, Mr Blood said. The average size of investment made by the new fund is likely to be about $30m, in small private or public companies. All of the investors in the new fund were drawn from the company's existing pool of investors. None were willing to be named but existing investors in the Global Equity Strategy Fund include the Swiss private bank Lombard Odier Darier Hentsch; the California State Teachers Retirement System; Sweden's Mistra Foundation; and Australia's Victoria Super Fund. Last year, Generation formed a partnership with the Silicon Valley venture capitalists Kleiner Perkins Caufield Byers to collaborate on possible investments.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Deniers - Now: Scientists Demand Removal from Denier List
A fascinating look at this trend. Thanks for sharing this Boo. What saddens me is that there is a certain group of people who will hear of this Heartland Institute and actually use it to confirm their conviction that Global Climate Change is a hoax. Given that I've watched time after time as George Bush, a man who's caused such incredible suffering, try and then try again to get permission for oil drilling in ANWR, I can't help but see the danger in such unfounded and politicized actions as he calls (once again this week) for oil drilling. I strongly recommend anyone who has any questions on whether or not drilling should take place in ANWR watch the movie Being Caribou where the filmmakers follow the 1500 km route of the endangered Porcupine Caribou herd to their traditional calving grounds in ANWR. On Apr 30, 2008, at 8:08 AM, boo_lives wrote: This story about the sham Heartland Institute is currently breaking: http://www.desmogblog.com/500-scientists-with-documented-doubts- about-the-heartland-institute Dozens of scientists are demanding that their names be removed from a widely distributed Heartland Institute article entitled 500 Scientists with Documented Doubts of Man-Made Global Warming Scares. The article, by Hudson Institute director and Heartland Senior Fellow Dennis T. Avery (inset), purports to list scientists whose work contradicts the overwhelming scientific agreement that human-induced climate change is endangering the world as we know it. DeSmogBlog manager Kevin Grandia emailed 122 of the scientists yesterday afternoon, calling their attention to the list. So far - in less than 24 hours - three dozen of those scientists had responded in outrage, denying that their research supports Avery's conclusions and demanding that their names be removed. This is a brief taste of some of the responses that have been copied to the DeSmogBlog so I am horrified to find my name on such a list. I have spent the last 20 years arguing the opposite. Dr. David Sugden. Professor of Geography, University of Edinburgh have NO doubts ..the recent changes in global climate ARE man-induced. I insist that you immediately remove my name from this list since I did not give you permission to put it there. Dr. Gregory Cutter, Professor, Department of Ocean, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences, Old Dominion University I don't believe any of my work can be used to support any of the statements listed in the article. Dr. Robert Whittaker, Professor of Biogeography, University of Oxford Please remove my name. What you have done is totally unethical!! Dr. Svante Bjorck, Geo Biosphere Science Centre, Lund University I'm outraged that they've included me as an author of this report. I do not share the views expressed in the summary. Dr. John Clague, Shrum Research Professor, Department of Earth Sciences, Simon Fraser University The DeSmogBlog will follow up with additional postings of scientist reaction as it comes in.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Deniers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Richard M wrote: Notice the phrase the world's most prominent scientists rather than the world's most prominent climate or meteorology scientists. This seems to be an appeal to priesthood pedigree rather than scientific rationality? Your conclusion, not mine. But if that's your guiding light, what ad hominem will you deploy to denigrate climate sceptics such as Richard Lindzen, atmospheric physicist Oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; [and] his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels and a speech he wrote, entitled 'Global Warming: the Origin and Nature of Alleged Scientific Consensus,' was underwritten by OPEC. So, how do you feel about Al Gore allegedly making $100 million off of his Green companies? Thanks for proving my point! Yeah I'd trust someone sponsored by OPEC and coal companies to present unbiased material on human impact. and the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology? Or John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville? (continues ad nauseam...) I like some of what Christy says: It is scientifically inconceivable that after changing forests into cities, turning millions of acres into irrigated farmland, putting massive quantities of soot and dust into the air, and putting extra greenhouse gases into the air, that the natural course of climate has not changed in some way. More recently, in a publication in the series Washington Roundtable on Science and Public Policy he said:[5] I showed some evidence that humans are causing warming in the surface measurements that we have but it is not the greenhouse relation. Christy has also said that while he supports the AGU declaration, and is convinced that human activities are a cause of the global warming that has been measured, he is still a strong critic of scientists who make catastrophic predictions of huge increases in global temperatures and tremendous rises in sea levels.[4]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gee, Louis, looks like Obama no longer likes Wright
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Meant to type 'Obama' there, not 'Wright,' but whatever... [snip] ...just as long as you didn't accidentally type Osama I think you'll be okay...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Deniers
On Apr 30, 2008, at 8:24 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Richard M wrote: Notice the phrase the world's most prominent scientists rather than the world's most prominent climate or meteorology scientists. This seems to be an appeal to priesthood pedigree rather than scientific rationality? Your conclusion, not mine. But if that's your guiding light, what ad hominem will you deploy to denigrate climate sceptics such as Richard Lindzen, atmospheric physicist Oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; [and] his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels and a speech he wrote, entitled 'Global Warming: the Origin and Nature of Alleged Scientific Consensus,' was underwritten by OPEC. So, how do you feel about Al Gore allegedly making $100 million off of his Green companies? I don't know the details (so it's hard to comment) but I am always happy when green based alternatives become investment worthy. If it's true, I guess it's what they call putting you're money where your mouth is.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gee, Louis, looks like Obama no longer likes Wright
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Louis, I do not like the tone of the subject heading at all. Seems awfully petty to me, seems like some folks are trying to make you look bad for having admired the wrong man. A phrase like, Whose side are you on? is particularly stupid. This is not a matter of taking sides. So please just ignore those comments. Consider their source. a Thank you Angela I love to use the N-word Mailander. --- Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont understand what is going on or why? Wright maybe working with the Clintons. Or it may be something to keep people from dropping off. I cant tell. shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What to do, Louis? You've expressed your admiration for BOTH Rev. Wright and Sen. Obama. Yet now Sen. Obama has REALLY distanced himself from the good reverend: http://tinyurl.com/3kcnbb Whose side are you on? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gee, Louis, looks like Obama no longer likes Wright
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frankly, I like that Obama has a Rev Wright. I wish the crudeness of current American politics did not force him to disown the good Rev. Straight talking, perhaps emphatic, even hypebole-driven connections can be balancing, invigorating and insightful. I hope Barack keeps Wright as part of a transparent brain-trust and kitchen cabinet. Oh, yes. By all means keep the fellow who actually believes that AIDS was created by the White Man specifically to commit genocide against African-Americans as part of the Brain-Trust to advise the President of the United States. And sitting next to Wright at the Cabinet Table we should also have Soupy Sales and Pee-Wee Herman. And why not Charles Manson for National Security Advisor? Politics today is so afraid of speaking something resembling the truth. Its largely pandering. Few want to be told that we have responsibilities, we have blames, we have burdens. America is not the great shining knight of righteousness that it could have been. It has goodness. And a lot of baggage, corruption, weak thinking and calloused hearts. I think Lincoln and Jefferson would weep at viewing today's America. Wright is a force, not alone, but one of many, together that can help steer us back to the highest form of the American Spirit. I hope Barack keeps the door open to Wright. If he doesn't, he is less different than Hill than I would like to believe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: Louis, I do not like the tone of the subject heading at all. Seems awfully petty to me, seems like some folks are trying to make you look bad for having admired the wrong man. A phrase like, Whose side are you on? is particularly stupid. This is not a matter of taking sides. So please just ignore those comments. Consider their source. a --- Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote: I dont understand what is going on or why? Wright maybe working with the Clintons. Or it may be something to keep people from dropping off. I cant tell. shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: What to do, Louis? You've expressed your admiration for BOTH Rev. Wright and Sen. Obama. Yet now Sen. Obama has REALLY distanced himself from the good reverend: http://tinyurl.com/3kcnbb Whose side are you on? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] ...and this isn't a conflict of interest also?
On Apr 30, 2008, at 8:21 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: We've heard on this forum time and time again how the war in Iraq was started and continued because it was in the interest of the corporate pals of the administration, such as Haliburton, to do so. Doesn't the same conflict of interest principle hold true for Al Gore? It has been reported elsewhere that he's made about $100 million in Green companies and investments. Doesn't that fact mean that he has a vested interest in keeping the whole catastrophic man- made global warming fantasy alive for his own personal gain? If it's true for the Administration and Haliburton, isn't it also true for Al Gore and Global Warming? Hmmm. Global warming disaster potentially means mass extinction, so therefore launching viable ways to reverse mass extinction of life could be seen as a good thing. That people could make money on it could also be seen as a positive trend: the ability to invest in good and meaningful causes should be rewarded, not just be 'money holes'. Vested interest in the machinery behind a war based on lies doesn't seem like a good thing to me. It caused really unimaginable suffering to large groups of people and numerous other atrocities. It helped radicalize a religion of over a billion people. It's also helped destroy our economy, harming the poor, the needy, the hungry and bolstered the coffers of the rich.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gee, Louis, looks like Obama no longer likes Wright
Hey, new.morning, perhaps you and Louis can curl up and read the Protocols of the Elders of Zion together. Isn't that something that you'd like to learn from, new.morning? And then you can listen to audio tapes of Rev. Wright and Louis Farakhan and have a discussion group. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frankly, I like that Obama has a Rev Wright. I wish the crudeness of current American politics did not force him to disown the good Rev. Straight talking, perhaps emphatic, even hypebole-driven connections can be balancing, invigorating and insightful. I hope Barack keeps Wright as part of a transparent brain-trust and kitchen cabinet. Politics today is so afraid of speaking something resembling the truth. Its largely pandering. Few want to be told that we have responsibilities, we have blames, we have burdens. America is not the great shining knight of righteousness that it could have been. It has goodness. And a lot of baggage, corruption, weak thinking and calloused hearts. I think Lincoln and Jefferson would weep at viewing today's America. Wright is a force, not alone, but one of many, together that can help steer us back to the highest form of the American Spirit. I hope Barack keeps the door open to Wright. If he doesn't, he is less different than Hill than I would like to believe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: Louis, I do not like the tone of the subject heading at all. Seems awfully petty to me, seems like some folks are trying to make you look bad for having admired the wrong man. A phrase like, Whose side are you on? is particularly stupid. This is not a matter of taking sides. So please just ignore those comments. Consider their source. a --- Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote: I dont understand what is going on or why? Wright maybe working with the Clintons. Or it may be something to keep people from dropping off. I cant tell. shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: What to do, Louis? You've expressed your admiration for BOTH Rev. Wright and Sen. Obama. Yet now Sen. Obama has REALLY distanced himself from the good reverend: http://tinyurl.com/3kcnbb Whose side are you on? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: ...and this isn't a conflict of interest also?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 30, 2008, at 8:21 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: We've heard on this forum time and time again how the war in Iraq was started and continued because it was in the interest of the corporate pals of the administration, such as Haliburton, to do so. Doesn't the same conflict of interest principle hold true for Al Gore? It has been reported elsewhere that he's made about $100 million in Green companies and investments. Doesn't that fact mean that he has a vested interest in keeping the whole catastrophic man- made global warming fantasy alive for his own personal gain? If it's true for the Administration and Haliburton, isn't it also true for Al Gore and Global Warming? Hmmm. Global warming disaster potentially means mass extinction, so therefore launching viable ways to reverse mass extinction of life could be seen as a good thing. That people could make money on it could also be seen as a positive trend: the ability to invest in good and meaningful causes should be rewarded, not just be 'money holes'. Mass extinction, as you say, is so serious that a person who actually believe that this is a possibility and who has taken on the role, as Al Gore has, of warning us of that wouldn't want there to be ANYTHING that could possibly be construed as being in conflict of interest so that his message would be minimized in any way. Certainly, Vaj, you don't think that it was appropriate for Maharishi Mahesh Yogi to have appointed blood relatives to positions of administrative importance, as he did, in the Indian branch of the Movement for those very reasons, do you? Vested interest in the machinery behind a war based on lies doesn't seem like a good thing to me. It caused really unimaginable suffering to large groups of people and numerous other atrocities. It helped radicalize a religion of over a billion people. It's also helped destroy our economy, harming the poor, the needy, the hungry and bolstered the coffers of the rich. Oh, I see. So it's not a conflict of interest when Al Gore profits from his political views but it is when Dick Chaney does. That's some great logic gymnastics, Vaj, but it's a losing argument. What you simply should have said was: yeah, Gore is not perfect. He really shouldn't be in the Green business if he actually believes what he says about imminent catastrophy for the human race; he should stay above it. You know, I think Wikipedia is the best thing since sliced bread. Do you know that it is a non-profit enterprise? Do you have any idea how many billions of dollars it could make the guy who started it? But he has maintained its non-profit status from the beginning because he believes that to make it a for-profit enterprise would compromise the integrity of the thing. If the Wiki founder can do that, so can Al Gore, don't you think?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Deniers
But if that's your guiding light, what ad hominem will you deploy to denigrate climate sceptics such as Richard Lindzen, atmospheric physicist and the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology? They say you should be careful what you wish for. Silly me - I brought the following on myself: Oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; [and] his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels etc etc etc I find it ironic Vaj that just a short while ago you posted to mock the scientific pretensions of TMO research, and now you follow a form of argument that is just so beyond the pale it beggars belief. You can't have it both ways: Either you believe in rigour or you believe in sophistry (Or is that too rigorous?). Tell me then - would you have the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at MIT removed from his post?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gee, Louis, looks like Obama no longer likes Wright
On Apr 30, 2008, at 8:39 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frankly, I like that Obama has a Rev Wright. I wish the crudeness of current American politics did not force him to disown the good Rev. Straight talking, perhaps emphatic, even hypebole-driven connections can be balancing, invigorating and insightful. I hope Barack keeps Wright as part of a transparent brain-trust and kitchen cabinet. Oh, yes. By all means keep the fellow who actually believes that AIDS was created by the White Man specifically to commit genocide against African-Americans as part of the Brain-Trust to advise the President of the United States. And sitting next to Wright at the Cabinet Table we should also have Soupy Sales and Pee-Wee Herman. And why not Charles Manson for National Security Advisor? One of the disturbing things I find in many Black preachers and Mullahs is their embracing of radical Afrocentrism, a bizarre and sad trend in even educated Blacks. Did you ever get to see the 60 Minutes segment (years ago) with Mary Lefkowitz and _Not Out of Africa_? It was an eye-opener that lead me into reading a good number of books on the subject and engaging with a lot of blacks of the trend. It's a trend that's epidemic in the Black community. Many aren't even aware that in some communities it's considered fact that some of the great Greek philosophers were Black, that the Egyptians were a Black race and numerous other historical and biological fallacies. I think there likely is a good probability that Obama has some roots--or at least is very familiar with--radical Afrocentrism. For a shocking example of what is taught in some schools, check out: http://www.csicop.org/si/9201/minority.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Deniers
On Apr 30, 2008, at 9:14 AM, Richard M wrote: But if that's your guiding light, what ad hominem will you deploy to denigrate climate sceptics such as Richard Lindzen, atmospheric physicist and the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology? They say you should be careful what you wish for. Silly me - I brought the following on myself: Oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; [and] his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels etc etc etc I find it ironic Vaj that just a short while ago you posted to mock the scientific pretensions of TMO research, and now you follow a form of argument that is just so beyond the pale it beggars belief. You can't have it both ways: Either you believe in rigour or you believe in sophistry (Or is that too rigorous?). Bias is bias dude. Tell me then - would you have the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at MIT removed from his post? I'm not in any sort of position to make that decision. Are you?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ...and this isn't a conflict of interest also?
On Apr 30, 2008, at 9:00 AM, shempmcgurk wrote: Hmmm. Global warming disaster potentially means mass extinction, so therefore launching viable ways to reverse mass extinction of life could be seen as a good thing. That people could make money on it could also be seen as a positive trend: the ability to invest in good and meaningful causes should be rewarded, not just be 'money holes'. Mass extinction, as you say, is so serious that a person who actually believe that this is a possibility and who has taken on the role, as Al Gore has, of warning us of that wouldn't want there to be ANYTHING that could possibly be construed as being in conflict of interest so that his message would be minimized in any way. Certainly, Vaj, you don't think that it was appropriate for Maharishi Mahesh Yogi to have appointed blood relatives to positions of administrative importance, as he did, in the Indian branch of the Movement for those very reasons, do you? Honestly, I could care less what Mahesh Varma, the self-proclaimed Maharishi, did in corporate assignments. But it's hardly surprising for a mountebank like Mahesh.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Gee, Louis, looks like Obama no longer likes Wright
I also agree with much that he has said, including the outrageous possibility that AIDS was a deliberate depopulation attempt. I was in China during the SAARS epidemic and I'm convinced that the SAARS epidemic was a man-made virus. There was solid evidence for that, so the notion that someone could do that is not unthinkable. Besides, there was the Tuskegee thing. And here's another that people generally don't know about. My mother was forced into working for the Americans after the war as a secret agent getting Nazi scientist out of East Germany and to America where they continued doing what they had been doing, including medical experiments on human beings. Of course you can guess what color most of those human beings were, can't you? --- Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't matter I still agree with a lot of what he has said. I just dont know who he is aligned with ... I do believe Obama should have just left it alone. But people do what they do. His time at the NPC was lite hearted playing he looked more like a clown than anything else he definitely did not appear to be Anti American his opinions are just that opinions. WHY IS THAT NOT ACCEPTABLE Pat Robertson has opinions no one is denouncing him Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Louis, I do not like the tone of the subject heading at all. Seems awfully petty to me, seems like some folks are trying to make you look bad for having admired the wrong man. A phrase like, Whose side are you on? is particularly stupid. This is not a matter of taking sides. So please just ignore those comments. Consider their source. a --- Louis McKenzie wrote: I dont understand what is going on or why? Wright maybe working with the Clintons. Or it may be something to keep people from dropping off. I cant tell. shempmcgurk wrote: What to do, Louis? You've expressed your admiration for BOTH Rev. Wright and Sen. Obama. Yet now Sen. Obama has REALLY distanced himself from the good reverend: http://tinyurl.com/3kcnbb Whose side are you on? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: the chickens are coming home to roost
Sal Sunshine wrote: It must be me--I looked at the 3 videos of Wright answering questions on Monday, the ones that are all over the news now, and I didn't see anything of what some others apparently did. It must be you, Sal, because Obama said he was outraged and appalled by the performance of Wright. But you don't even seem to saddened that your candidate just lost his only chance at the nomination. So, I guess you'll be casting a spoiler vote for Nader this election. I am outraged by the comments that were made and saddened by the spectacle that we saw yesterday. - Barack Obama Democrat Barack Obama said Tuesday he was outraged and appalled by the latest comments from his former pastor, who asserted that criticism of his fiery sermons is an attack on the black church and the U.S. government was responsible for the creation of the AIDS virus. 'Obama Rips Rev. Wright' By Marc Ambinder CBS News, April 29, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/5gefr3
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Deniers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 30, 2008, at 9:14 AM, Richard M wrote: But if that's your guiding light, what ad hominem will you deploy to denigrate climate sceptics such as Richard Lindzen, atmospheric physicist and the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology? They say you should be careful what you wish for. Silly me - I brought the following on myself: Oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; [and] his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels etc etc etc I find it ironic Vaj that just a short while ago you posted to mock the scientific pretensions of TMO research, and now you follow a form of argument that is just so beyond the pale it beggars belief. You can't have it both ways: Either you believe in rigour or you believe in sophistry (Or is that too rigorous?). Bias is bias dude. Tell me then - would you have the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology at MIT removed from his post? I'm not in any sort of position to make that decision. Are you? That's a cop out isn't it! Do you think I was thinking that either of us was in that position? Of course not! So why say that? What's the point? Why bother? I don't think your interest in this is serious. Never mind.
[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102
Bob Brigante wrote: LSD chemist dies at 102 Yes, but did you enjoy? The trouble with relying on a drug-addled clown like Bob for one's meditation instruction is that this approach is as full of holes as Bob's brain after a lifetime of drug use. Apparently Bob has more potions in his medicine cabinet that Carter had 'little liver pills'. I also received the Night Technique, which is no longer taught by the TM movement, and it's important to understand that Willytex's instruction is not accurate. Read more: Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: Bob Brigante Date: Wed, Jul 2 2003 1:45 pm Subject: Re: Meditation and Insomnia http://tinyurl.com/4h6ykx All this being said, it is difficult, if not impossible, to explain absolute rest to the understanding of the non-initiate, yet, so important is this aspect of life, that when Davendra fell out of 'bramhacharya' and confessed to actually sleeping with a woman one night, Maharishi asked: Yes, but did you enjoy? Read more: Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: Willytex Date: Wed, Nov 20 2002 12:32 am Subject: Good Night Sweetheart http://tinyurl.com/63tb8n My intiation with Satyanand took place at a three-day residence course with Jerry Jarvis at SIMS in Berkeley in 1968. The entire course was truly inspiring as I recall, and the initation included a very deep five minute meditation led by Satyanand and concluded with one of the most impressive Guru Dev pujas that I have ever personally attended. As for the technique per se, and after much practice, analysis, and reflection on its meaning, I have concluded that this *night* technique is the *perfect* compliment to TM. Read more: Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental From: Willytex Date: Tues, Jun 11 2002 7:30 pm Subject: Advanced Techniques http://tinyurl.com/5zzqjq
[FairfieldLife] AIDS was created by the US Government to kill White People
I'm originally from Montreal and while not well-known in the U.S., the CIA, in conjunction with the Royal Victoria Hospital in Montreal (connected with McGill University) did experiments on Montrealers starting in the '50s for over 25 years that involved hallucinocens and LSD and the people were NOT informed of what was the true nature of what they were given or what the purpose was. It was an attempt to create a mind-control drug for use by the U.S. military (can you say Manchurian Candidate?) Great suffering resulted from the experiments. Many claimed it was a form of torture. Although I'v never seen photographs of any the people experimented upon by the CIA I can most assuredly tell you that they were in all likelihood all white (until the '70s when there was an influx of Caribbean immigrants, Blacks in Montreal were a small percentage of the population, Oscar Peterson the late, great Jazz pianist being the noted exception). In other words, the U.S. Government is an equal opportunity experimenter on live humans without regard to race, creed, or colour. Here is a link to a New York Times article from 1981 on the whole scandal: http://tinyurl.com/4rwkbz .
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gee, Louis, looks like Obama no longer likes Wright
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote: Frankly, I like that Obama has a Rev Wright. I wish the crudeness of current American politics did not force him to disown the good Rev. Straight talking, perhaps emphatic, even hypebole-driven connections can be balancing, invigorating and insightful. I hope Barack keeps Wright as part of a transparent brain-trust and kitchen cabinet. Oh, yes. By all means keep the fellow who actually believes that AIDS was created by the White Man specifically to commit genocide against African-Americans as part of the Brain-Trust to advise the President of the United States. And sitting next to Wright at the Cabinet Table we should also have Soupy Sales and Pee-Wee Herman. Great idea. Since they already sit on the Board of the Heartland Institute. And why not Charles Manson for National Security Advisor? Politics today is so afraid of speaking something resembling the truth. Its largely pandering. Few want to be told that we have responsibilities, we have blames, we have burdens. America is not the great shining knight of righteousness that it could have been. It has goodness. And a lot of baggage, corruption, weak thinking and calloused hearts. I think Lincoln and Jefferson would weep at viewing today's America. Wright is a force, not alone, but one of many, together that can help steer us back to the highest form of the American Spirit. I hope Barack keeps the door open to Wright. If he doesn't, he is less different than Hill than I would like to believe. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander mailander111@ wrote: Louis, I do not like the tone of the subject heading at all. Seems awfully petty to me, seems like some folks are trying to make you look bad for having admired the wrong man. A phrase like, Whose side are you on? is particularly stupid. This is not a matter of taking sides. So please just ignore those comments. Consider their source. a --- Louis McKenzie ltm457@ wrote: I dont understand what is going on or why? Wright maybe working with the Clintons. Or it may be something to keep people from dropping off. I cant tell. shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: What to do, Louis? You've expressed your admiration for BOTH Rev. Wright and Sen. Obama. Yet now Sen. Obama has REALLY distanced himself from the good reverend: http://tinyurl.com/3kcnbb Whose side are you on? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] U.S. Oil Imports by Country
Interesting. Looks like Aug '07 data. http://therealnewsjunkies.ning.com/photo/photo/show? id=859527:Photo:4513
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gee, Louis, looks like Obama no longer likes Wright
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also agree with much that he has said, including the outrageous possibility that AIDS was a deliberate depopulation attempt. NYTimes: In the appearances, Mr. Wright has suggested that the United States was attacked because it engaged in terrorism on other people and that the government was capable of having used the AIDS virus to commit genocide against minorities. I understood the comment on AIDS as the times reported: the government was capable of having used the AIDS virus Is/ Was the government capable of that? They were capable of immoral experimentation of Montrealers for 30 years. They were capable of Tuskegee. They were capable of firebombing SOLELY civilian populations killing 100,000's in single evenings to 'break the will of those nations' (Which appears to be the largerst and most horrendous acts of Terroroism yet -- making 911 look like kids stuff.) While the government was capable of having used the AIDS virus may border on hyperbole, I think hyperbole from varied sources, in certain doses, can be insightful. Most are smart and independent enough to take things with a grin of salt. But the underlying message that the government has and continues to do mass immoral things -- and that this makes us vulnerable is a correct and powerful take-away. I was in China during the SAARS epidemic and I'm convinced that the SAARS epidemic was a man-made virus. There was solid evidence for that, so the notion that someone could do that is not unthinkable. Besides, there was the Tuskegee thing. And here's another that people generally don't know about. My mother was forced into working for the Americans after the war as a secret agent getting Nazi scientist out of East Germany and to America where they continued doing what they had been doing, including medical experiments on human beings. Of course you can guess what color most of those human beings were, can't you? --- Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't matter I still agree with a lot of what he has said. I just dont know who he is aligned with ... I do believe Obama should have just left it alone. But people do what they do. His time at the NPC was lite hearted playing he looked more like a clown than anything else he definitely did not appear to be Anti American his opinions are just that opinions. WHY IS THAT NOT ACCEPTABLE Pat Robertson has opinions no one is denouncing him Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Louis, I do not like the tone of the subject heading at all. Seems awfully petty to me, seems like some folks are trying to make you look bad for having admired the wrong man. A phrase like, Whose side are you on? is particularly stupid. This is not a matter of taking sides. So please just ignore those comments. Consider their source. a --- Louis McKenzie wrote: I dont understand what is going on or why? Wright maybe working with the Clintons. Or it may be something to keep people from dropping off. I cant tell. shempmcgurk wrote: What to do, Louis? You've expressed your admiration for BOTH Rev. Wright and Sen. Obama. Yet now Sen. Obama has REALLY distanced himself from the good reverend: http://tinyurl.com/3kcnbb Whose side are you on? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] AIDS was created by the US Government to kill White People
I totally agree with your notion that the U.S. is an equal opportunity experimenter in the arts of death and destruction. The key word here is opportunity, however, and in the fairly recent past, the opportunity to get away with it was just better if you used darkies. It's just common sense: think of it from their point of view. The planet is for sure overpopulated. That may not be totally visible if you're sittin' in Ff, or, even, in New York City, but I assure you that it is an alarming problem visible in all areas of life: garbage management. And you can take that as anagoge: expansion of meaning and contraction (field and point) all rolled into one chock full of nuts meaning experience to blow you away big time. And note that meaning is not meaning unless it has more than one dimension: four is good for starters. Now, if you think God's chosen you to be the garbage man, then note Hamlet's position on the subject (no, Judy, we're never gonna be done talking about the depth in Hamlet that you failed to see even though you're supposed to be up on Vedic interp of lit according to Marshy). So, now, God's chosen you as the garbage man of the world (or of this forum) and you know it to your cost. If you don't control your population in a sustainable manner, Mother Nature will, and she has no problem with wiping your ass out--same way she did with the dinosaurs when they got to eating and farting more than the planet could bear. --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm originally from Montreal and while not well-known in the U.S., the CIA, in conjunction with the Royal Victoria Hospital in Montreal (connected with McGill University) did experiments on Montrealers starting in the '50s for over 25 years that involved hallucinocens and LSD and the people were NOT informed of what was the true nature of what they were given or what the purpose was. It was an attempt to create a mind-control drug for use by the U.S. military (can you say Manchurian Candidate?) Great suffering resulted from the experiments. Many claimed it was a form of torture. Although I'v never seen photographs of any the people experimented upon by the CIA I can most assuredly tell you that they were in all likelihood all white (until the '70s when there was an influx of Caribbean immigrants, Blacks in Montreal were a small percentage of the population, Oscar Peterson the late, great Jazz pianist being the noted exception). In other words, the U.S. Government is an equal opportunity experimenter on live humans without regard to race, creed, or colour. Here is a link to a New York Times article from 1981 on the whole scandal: http://tinyurl.com/4rwkbz . Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr. Hofmann first synthesized the compound lysergic acid diethylamide in 1938 but did not discover its psychopharmacological effects until five years later, when he accidentally ingested the substance that became known to the 1960s counterculture as acid. He then took LSD hundreds of times, but regarded it as a powerful and potentially dangerous psychotropic drug that demanded respect. More important to him than the pleasures of the psychedelic experience was the drug's value as a revelatory aid for contemplating and understanding what he saw as humanity's oneness with nature. That perception, of union, which came to Dr. Hofmann as almost a religious epiphany while still a child, directed much of his personal and professional life. Dr. Hofmann was born in Baden, a spa town in northern Switzerland, on Jan. 11, 1906, the eldest of four children. His father, who had no higher education, was a toolmaker in a local factory, and the family lived in a rented apartment. But Dr. Hofmann spent much of his childhood outdoors. He would wander the hills above the town and play around the ruins of a Hapsburg castle, the Stein. It was a real paradise up there, he said in an interview in 2006. We had no money, but I had a wonderful childhood. It was during one of his ambles that he had his epiphany. It happened on a May morning I have forgotten the year but I can still point to the exact spot where it occurred, on a forest path on Martinsberg above Baden, he wrote in LSD: My Problem Child. As I strolled through the freshly greened woods filled with bird song and lit up by the morning sun, all at once everything appeared in an uncommonly clear light. It shone with the most beautiful radiance, speaking to the heart, as though it wanted to encompass me in its majesty. I was filled with an indescribable sensation of joy, oneness and blissful security. (more) http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/world/europe/30hofmann.html Good old Albert, Rest in Peace dude. That's a really good obit, with lots I didn't know, like the epiphany he had as a child. And the bicycle day celebration among acid-heads, wouldn't fancy riding a bike under the influence mind you. Ah, I get nostalgic thinking about the great times I had thanks to Alb and his freaky, synchronicitous discovery. It was an essential part of the spiritual path for me. Opens the mind to the possibilites of infinite consciousness. It's a shame the path of excess doesn't really lead to the palace of wisdom, but there is some marvellous scenery on the way. Shame it doesn't mix with the meditation but you can't have everything. I was going to call my autobiography: Albert Hofmann - His part in my downfall But I wasn't sure how many would've got the joke.
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Oil Imports by Country
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. Looks like Aug '07 data. http://therealnewsjunkies.ning.com/photo/photo/show? id=859527:Photo:4513 http://api.ning.com/files/cyYhHZwAuCdOOgjwDuJnDo674T9YlzaE-XjTVrSCL6k_/\ worldChart.gif
[FairfieldLife] Obama's Roots: Afrocentrism ?
http://paxety.com/2008/04/17/obama’s-roots-afrocentrism/ Not familiar with the author, but so far his argument is solid (I'm part way into part 2) and academically sound, not unlike reading Lefkowitz. Since his pastor is clearly an Afrocentrist, it would be interesting to know if Obama actually believes any of this bunk. An interesting comment in Part 2 has some bearing on a recent topic here, which originates in Afrocentric thought: Though traditional scholars admit that Afrocentric writings contain corruptions of the truth, many tacitly let them pass unhindered. This is because the motive, building self-esteem among black youths, is perceived as justification for the mendacity. To Arthur Schlesinger the ends do not justify the means. Lies, curricula composed of myth and fantasy, cannot help anyone. If they are lying to build self- esteem among black kids, they may pump up their egos for a while, but in the long run, in the real world, believing in fantasies can only hurt them. “If you believe AIDS was concocted by whites in a government laboratory in order to wipe out the black race – as Professor Jeffries is reported to believe – you will be disabled from coming up with a rational strategy to control the disease. If Afrocentric nonsense is intended as medicine for bruised egos, it’s not good medicine. He adds that even trivial falsehoods can work against a person. “Believing that Beethoven and Browning were black is going to make you sound odd to anyone who hears you insist on that as a fact. And when you discover that you have fallen for a series of “therapeutic” absurdities, your self-esteem, which this exercise is supposed to improve, is bound to suffer. The plight of inner-city Americans is indeed appalling, and to fight for themselves they need the best education we can deliver them, not a pack of anodyne lies.”
[FairfieldLife] Re: AIDS was created by the US Government to kill White People
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I totally agree with your notion that the U.S. is an equal opportunity experimenter in the arts of death and destruction. The key word here is opportunity, however, and in the fairly recent past, the opportunity to get away with it was just better if you used darkies. Uh, no, actually, as I pointed out with the NYTimes article, it was White people who they experiemented with more recently than African- Americans. And I note your use of the word darkies. Taking a rest from the n- word today, are we? It's just common sense: think of it from their point of view. The planet is for sure overpopulated. That may not be totally visible if you're sittin' in Ff, or, even, in New York City, but I assure you that it is an alarming problem visible in all areas of life: garbage management. And you can take that as anagoge: expansion of meaning and contraction (field and point) all rolled into one chock full of nuts meaning experience to blow you away big time. And note that meaning is not meaning unless it has more than one dimension: four is good for starters. Now, if you think God's chosen you to be the garbage man, then note Hamlet's position on the subject (no, Judy, we're never gonna be done talking about the depth in Hamlet that you failed to see even though you're supposed to be up on Vedic interp of lit according to Marshy). So, now, God's chosen you as the garbage man of the world (or of this forum) and you know it to your cost. If you don't control your population in a sustainable manner, Mother Nature will, and she has no problem with wiping your ass out--same way she did with the dinosaurs when they got to eating and farting more than the planet could bear. --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm originally from Montreal and while not well-known in the U.S., the CIA, in conjunction with the Royal Victoria Hospital in Montreal (connected with McGill University) did experiments on Montrealers starting in the '50s for over 25 years that involved hallucinocens and LSD and the people were NOT informed of what was the true nature of what they were given or what the purpose was. It was an attempt to create a mind-control drug for use by the U.S. military (can you say Manchurian Candidate?) Great suffering resulted from the experiments. Many claimed it was a form of torture. Although I'v never seen photographs of any the people experimented upon by the CIA I can most assuredly tell you that they were in all likelihood all white (until the '70s when there was an influx of Caribbean immigrants, Blacks in Montreal were a small percentage of the population, Oscar Peterson the late, great Jazz pianist being the noted exception). In other words, the U.S. Government is an equal opportunity experimenter on live humans without regard to race, creed, or colour. Here is a link to a New York Times article from 1981 on the whole scandal: http://tinyurl.com/4rwkbz . Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] From a Canadian: Americanize Me? No Thanks
Americanize Me? No Thanks . When governance is hijacked by the likes of Bush and Brown there is only one possible outcome: massive, intractable, endemic corruption permeates the whole system. Stories following up on the Katrina catastrophe show that nothing has changed. Billions have been wasted, stolen or remain unaccounted for. The tragedy has been used as a useful crisis to dispossess thousands of New Orleans' poorest residents, privatize the education system and ensure that the wealthy get the benefit of public money. Stay clear of the collapse We can watch from this side of the fence as our neighbours self-destruct and we can have sympathy for the scores of millions who will suffer so that a tiny elite can become super-rich. But moving in with them won't help them. And it could destroy us. Mimicking their culture of fear, their self-destructive individualism, their suspicion of others, their isolation from the rest of the world, their minimalist decaying government, and their passive acceptance of extreme poverty will just help perpetuate their decline. ~~ Murray Dobbin More at link: http://thetyee.ca/Views/2008/04/21/Americanized/
[FairfieldLife] Why do Duveyoung and Angela like using the n-word so much?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] nigger [snip]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from Satsang Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mtoo many thoughts! Well, there now is a lot of spiritual satsang-ing in Fairfield with lots of small groups doing spiritual practice. Well, yes is also a lot of thoughts. But actually, quite a lot of spiritual experience that propels it. also people who are quite able to talk about their spiritual experiences, after two, three or four decades of spiritual practice here. Is a lot of what the town is about now. Things get e-mailed around too, so I thought to share that comment excerpt with you out-of-towners on FFL to see. With Best Regards, -Doug in FF We're going to talk about parallel reality. When I've talked to you in the past about dimensions, we've said here's one dimension and here's another dimension, and they're living side by side with one another. But there's also a fabric of consciousness that bleeds back and forth from one dimension to the other. They're not just standing there like soldiers unrelated to each other. There's a gate or fabric of consciousness that's flowing into one, flowing back to the other, flowing here and there. On a practical level, the point at which something splits off, a choice point at which one dimension goes this way and one dimension goes that way, where we are in the world right now we're coming to a major choice point. with possibility going this way and one possibility going that way and one possibility going another way, you really get the feeling of how you can have a fountainhead and things can sprout out of that and each possible parallel reality has an interrelationship with the other ones and they're in a flow together. When you have choice points that are very close like this, there's such a small gap between these three people, essentially what's happening is that the dimensions are closing in on one another. They're collapsing. Whereas before perhaps our experience was that the dimensions were very discrete, so you had a big gap. Now the gap is closing and it's a very small gap. That's why there's a feeling that the depth of difference between these three possibilities actually isn't that big. A dimension is kind of like a membrane. That's why when we work with the chakras, they're such a good example of what a dimension feels like because you can feel these subtle membranes in the chakras moving back and forth. A dimension is like that. It has a certain edge to it, a circumference, and that circumference is very fine. You can move from one edge of that circumference to the next edge and a whole other possible reality opens up. Normally, we are protected from experiencing a parallel reality in any clear way because we're locked into a framework of our dimension. We can only experience what is right here. We don't have the capacity to see outside that bubble. We're kind of locked away in that bubble. There are a lot of good reasons for that. For one thing, it keeps you focused. It keeps you connected to what's going on so you don't bleed out into some other possibility. But as time and consciousness are moving in the way that they are right now, the possibility of perceiving parallel connectivity is much more pronounced, so you can have the capacity to move out into this other level of awareness and still maintain your own. om
Re: [FairfieldLife] Gee, Louis, looks like Obama no longer likes Wright
shempmcgurk wrote: What to do, Louis? You've expressed your admiration for BOTH Rev. Wright and Sen. Obama. Yet now Sen. Obama has REALLY distanced himself from the good reverend: http://tinyurl.com/3kcnbb Whose side are you on? The whole Wright/Obama issue only matters to those who cannot think. Unfortunately that appears to be quite a number in this country.
[FairfieldLife] An elder respondsto statements about Michelle Obama and Jere miah Wright
I got this from my black family (I divorced my husband, but not his family) and he remains a good friend: To my friends and family, I rec'd this letter I think it should be circulated to answer some of the silliness that's going on about Michelle Obama's statements and Obama's connection with Jeremiah Wright. Pass it on! == To The Editor: As a 78 year old American of African descent, I feel compelled to respond to all this much ado about nothing when it comes to the statement that Michelle Obama made about the fact that this is the first time in her adult life that she has been proud to be an American. The country needs to hear this from the Black perspective. Long before I was born, my grandfather Joseph Burleson, owned a considerable amount of land in oil rich Texas. Because during that era, Blacks coul d not vote, nor could they contest anything in the courts of the United States, my grandfather's land was STOLEN by his White neighbor. My grandfather, who was literate and better educated than my grandmother, drove to town. Seeing my grandfather leave, the covetous neighbor asked my grandmother to show him the deed to the property. He snatched it. She could not insist that he give it back, nor could she have reported this THEFT to the sheriff because of the fact that Blacks had no rights in the 1800's. The prevailing law at that time was he who held the deed owned the land. Do you think that is something that I am PROUD OF? Right now I should be living off the oil and gas royalties. In 1934 when my dad drove us to Texas to meet his family, when he stopped to purchase gasoline, his daughters and wife were not allowed to use the washroom. As a man it was easier for his to relieve himself in the bushes, but not for the females. We were, how e ver, reduced to having to go in the bushes, also. Do you think I am PROUD OF THAT? In 1938 when my oldest sister went to enroll in Hyde Park High School, she was told by the counselor that she did not want to take college preparatory courses, she wanted to study domestic science. Do you think I'm PROUD OF THAT? Of course, when Beatrice Lillian Hurley-Burleson went to school the next day, that was the last time anyone thought that the Burleson girls wanted to study domestic science. When in 1943 my parents attempted to buy the 2 flat at 5338 South Kenwood, where we had lived since 1933, in Hyde Park, Chicago, IL we were told that we could not buy it because there was a restrictive covenant that said that the property was never to be sold to Negroes. Do you think I am PROUD OF THAT? In 1950 when I graduated from college, I was unable to get a job because I was considered overqualified. the code word for they would not hire me b ecause of my race. All of the want ads called for Japanese Americans or Neisis ( the word given to Japanese Americans at that time). Do you think that was something that I should have been PROUD OF? I understood that America was trying to make up for the interring of innocent and patriotic Americans who were our enemy by association. My cousin's barbershop was bombed in Mississippi in the 50's because he was encouraging Black people to register to vote. His wife who had earned a Masters Degree from Northwestern University lost her position as the principal of the local school because of the voter registration activities. Is that something I should be PROUD OF? Now we get to Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the pastor of the Obama family. Rev. Wright like so many religious zealots overstates many things, that many of his members do not agree with. To suggest that Senator Obama should leave the church of his choice is not only a double standard, bu t it is absurd. Would any of the talking heads who are so alarmed by Rev. Wright's thoughts and speeches suggest that Catholics should abandon their faith or denounce and reject the Pope because so many priests have molested children. These children were exploited and taken advantage of and they had no choice to even know they could resist, reject and denounce. To me the situations are parallel, except for the fact that the priests behavior is a physical violation of the innocence of children who are marred for life; and the priests behavior is a crime. Rev. Wright's speeches are just words, that one can listen to or not, the members have a choice. Should Governor Romney denounce and reject the Mormon Church because some of their members practice polygamy? As Senator Obama has previously stated, we have entered the silly season. Barack Obama is an adult, and most importantly, he is an exceptionally intelligent adult. Like mos t of us adults, fortunately, we do not accept all we hear or see. If we did, the world would be more amoral, debased and perverted than the world of today is. I see all these so called ponderings an attempt to marginalize the candidacy of Senator Barack Obama. I cannot truly
[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for FFL's racists, Shemp and the War Monger (Hmm, a rock group?)
Duveyoung wrote: Web site that's a fucking joke -- what a vile poser to wear such spiritual fleece and be such a rabid wolf. Please don't feed it! http://www.rwilliams.us/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from Satsang Fairfield
On Apr 30, 2008, at 10:51 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: Well, there now is a lot of spiritual satsang-ing in Fairfield with lots of small groups doing spiritual practice. Well, yes is also a lot of thoughts. But actually, quite a lot of spiritual experience that propels it. also people who are quite able to talk about their spiritual experiences, after two, three or four decades of spiritual practice here. Is a lot of what the town is about now. Things get e-mailed around too, so I thought to share that comment excerpt with you out-of-towners on FFL to see. Doug, is there an English translation of your comments anywhere? Just wondering. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Iraq War Morphs Into Iran War
This article is a very good assessment of the current situation by Paul Craig Roberts (yup, a conservative that served in the Reagan administration) and probably bound to create some comment here. The Iraq War Morphs Into the Iran War By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS It is 1939 all over again. The world waits helplessly for the next act of naked aggression by rogue states. Only this time the rogue states are not the Third Reich and Fascist Italy. They are the United States and Israel. read the rest here: http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts04292008.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] From a Canadian: Americanize Me? No Thanks
do.rflex wrote: Americanize Me? No Thanks . When governance is hijacked by the likes of Bush and Brown there is only one possible outcome: massive, intractable, endemic corruption permeates the whole system. Stories following up on the Katrina catastrophe show that nothing has changed. Billions have been wasted, stolen or remain unaccounted for. The tragedy has been used as a useful crisis to dispossess thousands of New Orleans' poorest residents, privatize the education system and ensure that the wealthy get the benefit of public money. Stay clear of the collapse We can watch from this side of the fence as our neighbours self-destruct and we can have sympathy for the scores of millions who will suffer so that a tiny elite can become super-rich. But moving in with them won't help them. And it could destroy us. Mimicking their culture of fear, their self-destructive individualism, their suspicion of others, their isolation from the rest of the world, their minimalist decaying government, and their passive acceptance of extreme poverty will just help perpetuate their decline. ~~ Murray Dobbin More at link: http://thetyee.ca/Views/2008/04/21/Americanized/ Last night I watched the movie Alien Versus Predator - Requium on BluRay and in the featurette the director points out that their motivation for the movie was to explore something they had noticed in the original movie Alien in that the ship that discovers an alien spacecraft is a corporate ship and that in the entire movie there is no mention of a government in that time in the future. IOW, everything is privatized. So they explore in the movie how it got that way. Interesting. Also I recall that Outland was really about how corporations used their people as slaves in that movie's case for mining. We really need to revolt to keep such a thing from happening. They're trying privatize everything especially municipal water systems. There are just some things that need to remain in the commons including our water, highways, mass transit, etc. There are things that are not wise for government to run that are better handled by small businesses (not large ones) and fill the need of those individuals who prefer to work for themselves. Plus it takes too much of a bureaucracy to try to run everything. The way things are going we'll wind up with one big corporation running everything (GE?) and that would be nothing more than corporate socialism.
[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102
I was going to call my autobiography: Albert Hofmann - His part in my downfall But I wasn't sure how many would've got the joke. I've never had a negative experience from his work. But I have gained much insight during periods in my life when changing my mind to the core was valuable. The tragic loss caused by trivializing psychedelic drugs is to psychotherapy where tools like this have such unutilized potential. Thanks to the foolish evangelism of Tim Leary and US drug policies which are shaped by lobbiests, cash, and puritanism rather than rational insight. I suspect it will be left to future generations to uncover the true value of his discovery. Till then it will remain as just a way to make the repetitive boring folk jams of the Dead palatable to alternative college kids. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Dr. Hofmann first synthesized the compound lysergic acid diethylamide in 1938 but did not discover its psychopharmacological effects until five years later, when he accidentally ingested the substance that became known to the 1960s counterculture as acid. He then took LSD hundreds of times, but regarded it as a powerful and potentially dangerous psychotropic drug that demanded respect. More important to him than the pleasures of the psychedelic experience was the drug's value as a revelatory aid for contemplating and understanding what he saw as humanity's oneness with nature. That perception, of union, which came to Dr. Hofmann as almost a religious epiphany while still a child, directed much of his personal and professional life. Dr. Hofmann was born in Baden, a spa town in northern Switzerland, on Jan. 11, 1906, the eldest of four children. His father, who had no higher education, was a toolmaker in a local factory, and the family lived in a rented apartment. But Dr. Hofmann spent much of his childhood outdoors. He would wander the hills above the town and play around the ruins of a Hapsburg castle, the Stein. It was a real paradise up there, he said in an interview in 2006. We had no money, but I had a wonderful childhood. It was during one of his ambles that he had his epiphany. It happened on a May morning I have forgotten the year but I can still point to the exact spot where it occurred, on a forest path on Martinsberg above Baden, he wrote in LSD: My Problem Child. As I strolled through the freshly greened woods filled with bird song and lit up by the morning sun, all at once everything appeared in an uncommonly clear light. It shone with the most beautiful radiance, speaking to the heart, as though it wanted to encompass me in its majesty. I was filled with an indescribable sensation of joy, oneness and blissful security. (more) http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/world/europe/30hofmann.html Good old Albert, Rest in Peace dude. That's a really good obit, with lots I didn't know, like the epiphany he had as a child. And the bicycle day celebration among acid-heads, wouldn't fancy riding a bike under the influence mind you. Ah, I get nostalgic thinking about the great times I had thanks to Alb and his freaky, synchronicitous discovery. It was an essential part of the spiritual path for me. Opens the mind to the possibilites of infinite consciousness. It's a shame the path of excess doesn't really lead to the palace of wisdom, but there is some marvellous scenery on the way. Shame it doesn't mix with the meditation but you can't have everything. I was going to call my autobiography: Albert Hofmann - His part in my downfall But I wasn't sure how many would've got the joke.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jai Bob
TurquoiseB wrote: One of the things it took me some time to get about Dylan is *how* he stays so flexible and keeps growing. He calls his life the endless tour. The man keeps performing, and is often on the road 200+ nights a year, standing in front of audiences and doing the same old songs, but *never the same way*. It's pretty fascinating to be in the audience and hear him rip into a song that you know all the words to by heart and have it take you until well into the third verse before you recognize the song. He changes the tempo, the melody, and sometimes even the lyrics. The folks in his bands are chosen for their flexibility, because there is never a set list (they don't know what he's going to play next) and they also don't know *how* he's going to play whatever he feels like playing next. They just have to keep up with him, wherever he goes. Think of the alternative...playing the same old set list over and over, and playing each song the same way every time. That just makes you old, and Dylan refuses to get old. He may have advanced in age, but he's never gotten old. Similarly, if you're on a Dylan kick, a fun exercise is to scour the Web and find *outtakes* of your favorite Dylan songs. Sometimes you can find six or seven of them, from the same record- ing session. And each one of them is as different from one another as night and day...hardly the same song at all. After a few sessions of this, you realize that with Dylan there is no such thing as the definitive version of a particular song. There is only the take that was chosen to be on the album, that's all. He probably did 20 different versions of that song in the same session, all of them as good as the one we think of as definitive, but in different ways. His approach is the same as a jazz musician as we never play the tune the same way twice. Even many classical performers don't believe you should interpret a piece the same way each time. It would not be unusual for Dylan to adopt this though as even folk and true country musicians never do a piece the same way twice. Only commercial music tries to perform a piece the same way each time. When I was playing in rock groups in high school as a jazz musician doing so I would frequently piss off the bands I was playing in because I would not play my part the same way every time and they were essentially cover artists who were doing often a note for note copy of the record. They thought that the audience wanted it that way but I always found that the audience didn't care that much at all as long as they could dance to it. My approach worked well in the 60's and 70's groups I played in which were original material groups (trying to get a good record contract) and always exploring their tunes. Unfortunately I found a generation of young jazz musicians who only wanted to do covers of some artist's recording. I remember a jam where the rest of the stage was filled with these and they were pissed because I wasn't playing the tune the way the drummer on the record did. My friend whose group was host group for the evening then jumped on stage and we did an improv on an old standard something which the youngsters were a bit clueless about.
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a Canadian: Americanize Me? No Thanks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do.rflex wrote: Americanize Me? No Thanks . When governance is hijacked by the likes of Bush and Brown there is only one possible outcome: massive, intractable, endemic corruption permeates the whole system. Stories following up on the Katrina catastrophe show that nothing has changed. Billions have been wasted, stolen or remain unaccounted for. The tragedy has been used as a useful crisis to dispossess thousands of New Orleans' poorest residents, privatize the education system and ensure that the wealthy get the benefit of public money. Stay clear of the collapse We can watch from this side of the fence as our neighbours self-destruct and we can have sympathy for the scores of millions who will suffer so that a tiny elite can become super-rich. But moving in with them won't help them. And it could destroy us. Mimicking their culture of fear, their self-destructive individualism, their suspicion of others, their isolation from the rest of the world, their minimalist decaying government, and their passive acceptance of extreme poverty will just help perpetuate their decline. ~~ Murray Dobbin More at link: http://thetyee.ca/Views/2008/04/21/Americanized/ Last night I watched the movie Alien Versus Predator - Requium on BluRay and in the featurette the director points out that their motivation for the movie was to explore something they had noticed in the original movie Alien in that the ship that discovers an alien spacecraft is a corporate ship and that in the entire movie there is no mention of a government in that time in the future. IOW, everything is privatized. So they explore in the movie how it got that way. Interesting. Also I recall that Outland was really about how corporations used their people as slaves in that movie's case for mining. We really need to revolt to keep such a thing from happening. They're trying privatize everything especially municipal water systems. There are just some things that need to remain in the commons including our water, highways, mass transit, etc. There are things that are not wise for government to run that are better handled by small businesses (not large ones) and fill the need of those individuals who prefer to work for themselves. Plus it takes too much of a bureaucracy to try to run everything. The way things are going we'll wind up with one big corporation running everything (GE?) and that would be nothing more than corporate socialism. Fascinating... and grim to consider. 'Alien' was superb. To me, the only *real* refuge any more is the Divinity within. I used to expect that active Divinity to somehow show up externally, collectively, in the lives and social constructs of the people in this world. I recall reading something by Kurt Vonnegut where he kind of said the same thing - that earlier in his life he had expected somehow that the world would turn around - and that he had come to realize that it never will - and that the same old crap that has gone on for eons will still be going on for eons to come in this world, like a never-ending soap opera - far after he had died. And the only thing he could do meanwhile was to be 'nice' to others.
[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102
--CNN report on Salvia Divinorum, a legal psychotropic plant, available in some cities and on the internet: from Wiki...: Salvia divinorum Epling J¨¢tiva[1] Salvia divinorum, also known as Diviner¡¯s Sage,[2] ska Mar¨ªa Pastora, [3] Sage of the Seers, or simply by the genus name, Salvia, is a powerful psychoactive herb. It is a member of the sage genus and the Lamiaceae (mint) family.[4] The Latin name Salvia divinorum literally translates to ¡°sage of the seers¡±.[5] The genus name Salvia is derived from the Latin salvare, meaning ¡°to heal¡± or ¡°to save¡±.[6] Salvia divinorum has a long continuing tradition of use as an entheogen by indigenous Mazatec shamans, who use it to facilitate visionary states of consciousness during spiritual healing sessions. [1] The plant is found in isolated, shaded, and moist plots in Oaxaca, Mexico. It grows to well over a meter in height, has large green leaves, and hollow square stems with occasional white and purple flowers. It is thought to be a cultigen.[7] Its primary psychoactive constituent is a diterpenoid known as salvinorin A[8][9]¡ªa potent ¦Ê-opioid receptor agonist. Salvinorin A is unique in that it is the only naturally occurring substance known to induce a visionary state this way. Salvia divinorum can be chewed, smoked, or taken as a tincture to produce experiences ranging from uncontrollable laughter to much more intense and profoundly altered states. The duration is much shorter than for some other more well known psychedelics; the effects of smoked salvia typically last for only a few minutes. The most commonly reported after-effects include an increased feeling of insight and improved mood, and a sense of calmness and increased sense of connection with nature¡ªthough much less often it may also cause dysphoria (unpleasant or uncomfortable mood).[10] Salvia divinorum is not generally understood to be toxic or addictive. As a ¦Ê-opioid agonist, it may have potential as an analgesic and as therapy for drug addictions. Salvia divinorum has become increasingly well-known and more widely available in modern culture. The rise of the Internet since the 1990s has seen the growth of many businesses selling live salvia plants, dried leaves, extracts, and other preparations. During this time medical experts and accident and emergency rooms have not been reporting cases that suggest particular health concerns, and police have not been reporting it as a significant issue with regard to public order offences. Yet Salvia divinorum has attracted increasing attention from the media and some lawmakers. Media stories generally raise alarms over salvia¡¯s legal status, headlining, for example, with not necessarily well-supported comparisons to LSD. Parental concerns are raised by focus on salvia¡¯s use by younger teens¡ªthe emergence of YouTube videos purporting to depict its use being an area of particular concern in this respect. The isolated and controversial case of Brett Chidester, a 17-year-old Delaware student who committed suicide in January 2006, has received continued attention. He reportedly purchased salvia from a Canadian- based Internet company some four months prior to taking his own life; his parents consequently blame this for his death. Salvia divinorum remains legal in most countries and, within the United States, legal in the majority of states. However, some have called for its prohibition. Most proposed bills have not made it into law, with motions having been voted down in committee, failed, died, or otherwise stalled. Other more recent bills are as yet still at the early proposal stage. There have not been any publicised prosecutions of anti-salvia laws in the few countries and states where it has been made illegal. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was going to call my autobiography: Albert Hofmann - His part in my downfall But I wasn't sure how many would've got the joke. I've never had a negative experience from his work. But I have gained much insight during periods in my life when changing my mind to the core was valuable. The tragic loss caused by trivializing psychedelic drugs is to psychotherapy where tools like this have such unutilized potential. Thanks to the foolish evangelism of Tim Leary and US drug policies which are shaped by lobbiests, cash, and puritanism rather than rational insight. I suspect it will be left to future generations to uncover the true value of his discovery. Till then it will remain as just a way to make the repetitive boring folk jams of the Dead palatable to alternative college kids. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Dr. Hofmann first synthesized the compound lysergic acid diethylamide in 1938 but did not discover its
[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --CNN report on Salvia Divinorum, a legal psychotropic plant, available in some cities and on the internet: from Wiki...: I vote this the most obnoxious drug ever. There is no experiential comparison between its effects and that of the other hallucinogens. Or so I've read... Salvia divinorum Epling J¨¢tiva[1] Salvia divinorum, also known as Diviner¡¯s Sage,[2] ska Mar¨ªa Pastora, [3] Sage of the Seers, or simply by the genus name, Salvia, is a powerful psychoactive herb. It is a member of the sage genus and the Lamiaceae (mint) family.[4] The Latin name Salvia divinorum literally translates to ¡°sage of the seers¡±.[5] The genus name Salvia is derived from the Latin salvare, meaning ¡°to heal¡± or ¡°to save¡±.[6] Salvia divinorum has a long continuing tradition of use as an entheogen by indigenous Mazatec shamans, who use it to facilitate visionary states of consciousness during spiritual healing sessions. [1] The plant is found in isolated, shaded, and moist plots in Oaxaca, Mexico. It grows to well over a meter in height, has large green leaves, and hollow square stems with occasional white and purple flowers. It is thought to be a cultigen.[7] Its primary psychoactive constituent is a diterpenoid known as salvinorin A[8][9]¡ªa potent ¦Ê-opioid receptor agonist. Salvinorin A is unique in that it is the only naturally occurring substance known to induce a visionary state this way. Salvia divinorum can be chewed, smoked, or taken as a tincture to produce experiences ranging from uncontrollable laughter to much more intense and profoundly altered states. The duration is much shorter than for some other more well known psychedelics; the effects of smoked salvia typically last for only a few minutes. The most commonly reported after-effects include an increased feeling of insight and improved mood, and a sense of calmness and increased sense of connection with nature¡ªthough much less often it may also cause dysphoria (unpleasant or uncomfortable mood).[10] Salvia divinorum is not generally understood to be toxic or addictive. As a ¦Ê-opioid agonist, it may have potential as an analgesic and as therapy for drug addictions. Salvia divinorum has become increasingly well-known and more widely available in modern culture. The rise of the Internet since the 1990s has seen the growth of many businesses selling live salvia plants, dried leaves, extracts, and other preparations. During this time medical experts and accident and emergency rooms have not been reporting cases that suggest particular health concerns, and police have not been reporting it as a significant issue with regard to public order offences. Yet Salvia divinorum has attracted increasing attention from the media and some lawmakers. Media stories generally raise alarms over salvia¡¯s legal status, headlining, for example, with not necessarily well-supported comparisons to LSD. Parental concerns are raised by focus on salvia¡¯s use by younger teens¡ªthe emergence of YouTube videos purporting to depict its use being an area of particular concern in this respect. The isolated and controversial case of Brett Chidester, a 17-year-old Delaware student who committed suicide in January 2006, has received continued attention. He reportedly purchased salvia from a Canadian- based Internet company some four months prior to taking his own life; his parents consequently blame this for his death. Salvia divinorum remains legal in most countries and, within the United States, legal in the majority of states. However, some have called for its prohibition. Most proposed bills have not made it into law, with motions having been voted down in committee, failed, died, or otherwise stalled. Other more recent bills are as yet still at the early proposal stage. There have not been any publicised prosecutions of anti-salvia laws in the few countries and states where it has been made illegal. - In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: I was going to call my autobiography: Albert Hofmann - His part in my downfall But I wasn't sure how many would've got the joke. I've never had a negative experience from his work. But I have gained much insight during periods in my life when changing my mind to the core was valuable. The tragic loss caused by trivializing psychedelic drugs is to psychotherapy where tools like this have such unutilized potential. Thanks to the foolish evangelism of Tim Leary and US drug policies which are shaped by lobbiests, cash, and puritanism rather than rational insight. I suspect it will be left to future generations to uncover the true value of his discovery. Till then it will remain as just a way to make the repetitive boring folk jams of the Dead
[FairfieldLife] Re: Iraq War Morphs Into Iran War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This article is a very good assessment of the current situation by Paul Craig Roberts (yup, a conservative that served in the Reagan administration) and probably bound to create some comment here. The Iraq War Morphs Into the Iran War By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS It is 1939 all over again. The world waits helplessly for the next act of naked aggression by rogue states. Only this time the rogue states are not the Third Reich and Fascist Italy. They are the United States and Israel. read the rest here: http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts04292008.html It has become the United States of Shame. Preamble to the US Constitution was: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Preamble has been changed to: We the Corporatocracy of the Homeland, in Order to consolidate Our Conservative Leadership, control the Judiciary to maintain our authority, insure unrestricted corporate profit, provide for global dominance through military superiority, keep the population safe through surveillance and control, and secure the Blessings of unlimited exploitation of global resources, do ordain to establish this Official Homeland Decree.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a Canadian: Americanize Me? No Thanks
do.rflex wrote: Fascinating... and grim to consider. 'Alien' was superb. To me, the only *real* refuge any more is the Divinity within. I used to expect that active Divinity to somehow show up externally, collectively, in the lives and social constructs of the people in this world. I recall reading something by Kurt Vonnegut where he kind of said the same thing - that earlier in his life he had expected somehow that the world would turn around - and that he had come to realize that it never will - and that the same old crap that has gone on for eons will still be going on for eons to come in this world, like a never-ending soap opera - far after he had died. And the only thing he could do meanwhile was to be 'nice' to others. And some of us like to make trouble for the establishment. :)
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a Canadian: Americanize Me? No Thanks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: do.rflex wrote: Fascinating... and grim to consider. 'Alien' was superb. To me, the only *real* refuge any more is the Divinity within. I used to expect that active Divinity to somehow show up externally, collectively, in the lives and social constructs of the people in this world. I recall reading something by Kurt Vonnegut where he kind of said the same thing - that earlier in his life he had expected somehow that the world would turn around - and that he had come to realize that it never will - and that the same old crap that has gone on for eons will still be going on for eons to come in this world, like a never-ending soap opera - far after he had died. And the only thing he could do meanwhile was to be 'nice' to others. And some of us like to make trouble for the establishment. :) There are indeed fun ways to do it.
[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: --CNN report on Salvia Divinorum, a legal psychotropic plant, available in some cities and on the internet: from Wiki...: I vote this the most obnoxious drug ever. There is no experiential comparison between its effects and that of the other hallucinogens. Or so I've read... I watched several YouTube videos of people's salvia trips and decided that doing salvia is an experience I can happily do without.
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a Canadian: Americanize Me? No Thanks
Intresting, MMY says that Age of Enlightenment will soon come.?? Histroricaly, there was never a Golden Age'. do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:11:29 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a Canadian: Americanize Me? No Thanks Fascinating. .. and grim to consider. 'Alien' was superb. To me, the only *real* refuge any more is the Divinity within. I used to expect that active Divinity to somehow show up externally, collectively, in the lives and social constructs of the people in this world. I recall reading something by Kurt Vonnegut where he kind of said the same thing - that earlier in his life he had expected somehow that the world would turn around - and that he had come to realize that it never will - and that the same old crap that has gone on for eons will still be going on for eons to come in this world, like a never-ending soap opera - far after he had died. And the only thing he could do meanwhile was to be 'nice' to others. * - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] Navigating with the help of the Sun??
The last sentence of Bhoja's comment on YF-suutra goes like this: [...] aadityarashmibhish ca viharan yatheSTam aakaashena gacchati. Once again, it's prolly my wild imagination, but I seem to recall from my siddhi-course, that it's possible to navigate(?) during Yffing with the help of the rays of the Sun (aaditya-rashmibhiH).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gee, Louis, looks like Obama no longer likes Wright
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: I have Obama's jyotish chart. His pastor or guru is represented by a malefic Mercury. Mercury is the lord of the 64th navamsha. As such, it very likely that this pastor will seriously damage Obama's chances of getting the Democratic nomination. Wright's Jyotish chart notes that he's black, too. If you read enough into it, that is... Meant to type 'Obama' there, not 'Wright,' but whatever... I tell you...the only thing that makes me roll my eyes in disbelief and horror more than people believing in Jyotish and astrology is their seemingly unshakable belief that a person's pastor of choice holds some kind of sway over them, or is a huge influence in their lives. Duh...guys! That's cultthink. That's you remembering all the times YOU did stupid things because Maharishi or some other guru told you to. Normal people don't DO that. They're smarter than that. In this respect, Barack Obama strikes me as pretty damned normal. The problem is not who a candidate chooses to hang with. It's the belief in others that these people, whoever they are, exert an undue influence on the candidate's thinking and decisions. I have a strong suspicion that if you did a study, the people who are most wary of Obama's association with Wright have a history *themselves* of doing what other people tell them to do, rather than thinking for themselves. So they assume that Obama is the same way. I don't see that in the man's life. I see him as a refreshingly normal human being in a country filled with sheep. The sheep can't *get through the day* without being told what to do, and so they're constantly looking for the person or persons who tell Obama what to do. Me, I just look at this whole tempest in a pisspot and say Ba. Grow the fuck up. No one needs a guru or a pastor or a self-appointed hall monitor to tell them what to do and what to think and whether it's right or wrong. Everybody always knows. Give me a candidate any day who knows *this*. Barry, get a hold of yourself. You're going into a rant and jumping into conclusions without understanding jyotish and its applications to human life. In jyoish, the house of the guru or the ninth house is very important in that it is the house of bhagya or luck. It is also a house of dharma, meaning the field of moral principles which are needed to guide a human being in this lifetime. In Obama's chart, Mercury is placed in the 10th house of career. Since Mercury is malefic as mentioned in previous post, Mercury will damage Obama's career, which is his work to become the president of the USA. Mercury's negative effects are also pervasive in his navamsha chart, an important chart to verifying the natal chart indicators. There are many other meanings that you are not considering in your criticism of the guru or the ninth house. You need to read up on the basic jyotish principles instead of making sweeping generalizations based on superficial observations. JR
[FairfieldLife] Dumb on energy, gas taxes
April 30, 2008 NY Times Op-Ed Columnist Dumb as We Wanna Be By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/editorialsandoped/oped/columnists /thomaslfriedman/index.html?inline=nyt-per It is great to see that we finally have some national unity on energy policy. Unfortunately, the unifying idea is so ridiculous, so unworthy of the people aspiring to lead our nation, it takes your breath away. Hillary Clinton has decided to line up with John McCain in pushing to suspend the federal excise tax on gasoline, 18.4 cents a gallon, for this summer's travel season. This is not an energy policy. This is money laundering: we borrow money from China and ship it to Saudi Arabia and take a little cut for ourselves as it goes through our gas tanks. What a way to build our country. When the summer is over, we will have increased our debt to China, increased our transfer of wealth to Saudi Arabia and increased our contribution to global warming for our kids to inherit. No, no, no, we'll just get the money by taxing Big Oil, says Mrs. Clinton. Even if you could do that, what a terrible way to spend precious tax dollars - burning it up on the way to the beach rather than on innovation? The McCain-Clinton gas holiday proposal is a perfect example of what energy expert Peter Schwartz of Global Business Network describes as the true American energy policy today: Maximize demand, minimize supply and buy the rest from the people who hate us the most. Good for Barack Obama for resisting this shameful pandering. But here's what's scary: our problem is so much worse than you think. We have no energy strategy. If you are going to use tax policy to shape energy strategy then you want to raise taxes on the things you want to discourage - gasoline consumption and gas-guzzling cars - and you want to lower taxes on the things you want to encourage - new, renewable energy technologies. We are doing just the opposite. Are you sitting down? Few Americans know it, but for almost a year now, Congress has been bickering over whether and how to renew the investment tax credit to stimulate investment in solar energy and the production tax credit to encourage investment in wind energy. The bickering has been so poisonous that when Congress passed the 2007 energy bill last December, it failed to extend any stimulus for wind and solar energy production. Oil and gas kept all their credits, but those for wind and solar have been left to expire this December. I am not making this up. At a time when we should be throwing everything into clean power innovation, we are squabbling over pennies. These credits are critical because they ensure that if oil prices slip back down again - which often happens - investments in wind and solar would still be profitable. That's how you launch a new energy technology and help it achieve scale, so it can compete without subsidies. The Democrats wanted the wind and solar credits to be paid for by taking away tax credits from the oil industry. President Bush said he would veto that. Neither side would back down, and Mr. Bush - showing not one iota of leadership - refused to get all the adults together in a room and work out a compromise. Stalemate. Meanwhile, Germany has a 20-year solar incentive program; Japan 12 years. Ours, at best, run two years. It's a disaster, says Michael Polsky, founder of Invenergy, one of the biggest wind-power developers in America. Wind is a very capital-intensive industry, and financial institutions are not ready to take 'Congressional risk.' They say if you don't get the [production tax credit] we will not lend you the money to buy more turbines and build projects. It is also alarming, says Rhone Resch, the president of the Solar Energy Industries Association, that the U.S. has reached a point where the priorities of Congress could become so distorted by politics that it would turn its back on the next great global industry - clean power - but that's exactly what is happening. If the wind and solar credits expire, said Resch, the impact in just 2009 would be more than 100,000 jobs either lost or not created in these industries, and $20 billion worth of investments that won't be made. While all the presidential candidates were railing about lost manufacturing jobs in Ohio, no one noticed that America's premier solar company, First Solar, from Toledo, Ohio, was opening its newest factory in the former East Germany - 540 high-paying engineering jobs - because Germany has created a booming solar market and America has not. In 1997, said Resch, America was the leader in solar energy technology, with 40 percent of global solar production. Last year, we were less than 8 percent, and even most of that was manufacturing for overseas markets. The McCain-Clinton proposal is a reminder to me that the biggest energy crisis we have in our country today is the energy to be serious - the energy to do big things in a sustained, focused and intelligent way. We are in the
[FairfieldLife] Re: Gee, Louis, looks like Obama no longer likes Wright
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: I have Obama's jyotish chart. His pastor or guru is represented by a malefic Mercury. Mercury is the lord of the 64th navamsha. As such, it very likely that this pastor will seriously damage Obama's chances of getting the Democratic nomination. Wright's Jyotish chart notes that he's black, too. If you read enough into it, that is... Meant to type 'Obama' there, not 'Wright,' but whatever... I tell you...the only thing that makes me roll my eyes in disbelief and horror more than people believing in Jyotish and astrology is their seemingly unshakable belief that a person's pastor of choice holds some kind of sway over them, or is a huge influence in their lives. Duh...guys! That's cultthink. That's you remembering all the times YOU did stupid things because Maharishi or some other guru told you to. Normal people don't DO that. They're smarter than that. In this respect, Barack Obama strikes me as pretty damned normal. The problem is not who a candidate chooses to hang with. It's the belief in others that these people, whoever they are, exert an undue influence on the candidate's thinking and decisions. I have a strong suspicion that if you did a study, the people who are most wary of Obama's association with Wright have a history *themselves* of doing what other people tell them to do, rather than thinking for themselves. So they assume that Obama is the same way. I don't see that in the man's life. I see him as a refreshingly normal human being in a country filled with sheep. The sheep can't *get through the day* without being told what to do, and so they're constantly looking for the person or persons who tell Obama what to do. Me, I just look at this whole tempest in a pisspot and say Ba. Grow the fuck up. No one needs a guru or a pastor or a self-appointed hall monitor to tell them what to do and what to think and whether it's right or wrong. Everybody always knows. Give me a candidate any day who knows *this*. Barry, get a hold of yourself. You're going into a rant and jumping into conclusions without understanding jyotish and its applications to human life. In jyoish, the house of the guru or the ninth house is very important in that it is the house of bhagya or luck. It is also a house of dharma, meaning the field of moral principles which are needed to guide a human being in this lifetime. In Obama's chart, Mercury is placed in the 10th house of career. Since Mercury is malefic as mentioned in previous post, Mercury will damage Obama's career, which is his work to become the president of the USA. Mercury's negative effects are also pervasive in his navamsha chart, an important chart to verifying the natal chart indicators. There are many other meanings that you are not considering in your criticism of the guru or the ninth house. You need to read up on the basic jyotish principles instead of making sweeping generalizations based on superficial observations. I respect your right to believe anything you want. I think you should respect mine. I don't need to do anything. I think that the issue is that you want me to do something, something that brings me around to your point of view. The word for that is evangelism. Selling some- one on your POV. I understand that at the time it feels like a noble task, sharing your knowledge with those who were just not fortunate enough to acquire it the way you were. And it's a real rush. Been there, done that, got far too many T-shirts. You nailed it. My post was a rant. But it was *just* a rant, dude. I wasn't trying to sell it to you as a way of life. You seem to be wanting very badly to sell me Jyotish. I'm not buying. No hard feelings. May the study of Jyotish bring you many joys.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from Satsang Fairfield
That's a brilliantly clear assessment and it also shows why Germany understood enough about what it had just been through by the late fifties to predict that it would, inevitably, happen here, too. Eventually even the warmongers among us will see the light, but it may take the utter destruction of the U.S.--which, again, is the inevitable result for folks who think God made them the garbage men of the planet. There must be more sustainable ways to manage a planet's resources, one would think. --- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 30, 2008, at 10:51 AM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote: Well, there now is a lot of spiritual satsang-ing in Fairfield with lots of small groups doing spiritual practice. Well, yes is also a lot of thoughts. But actually, quite a lot of spiritual experience that propels it. also people who are quite able to talk about their spiritual experiences, after two, three or four decades of spiritual practice here. Is a lot of what the town is about now. Things get e-mailed around too, so I thought to share that comment excerpt with you out-of-towners on FFL to see. Doug, is there an English translation of your comments anywhere? Just wondering. Sal Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Oops, my response to Bhairitu got mailed as response to Sal
This is what I meant to send in response to Bhairitu's post with the link to Paul Craig Robert's article: That's a brilliantly clear assessment and it also shows why Germany understood enough about what it had just been through by the late fifties to predict that it would, inevitably, happen here, too. Eventually even the warmongers among us will see the light, but it may take the utter destruction of the U.S.--which, again, is the inevitable result for folks who think God made them the garbage men of the planet. --- do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This article is a very good assessment of the current situation by Paul Craig Roberts (yup, a conservative that served in the Reagan administration) and probably bound to create some comment here. The Iraq War Morphs Into the Iran War By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS It is 1939 all over again. The world waits helplessly for the next act of naked aggression by rogue states. Only this time the rogue states are not the Third Reich and Fascist Italy. They are the United States and Israel. read the rest here: http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts04292008.html It has become the United States of Shame. Preamble to the US Constitution was: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Preamble has been changed to: We the Corporatocracy of the Homeland, in Order to consolidate Our Conservative Leadership, control the Judiciary to maintain our authority, insure unrestricted corporate profit, provide for global dominance through military superiority, keep the population safe through surveillance and control, and secure the Blessings of unlimited exploitation of global resources, do ordain to establish this Official Homeland Decree. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Oil Imports by Country
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey aztjbailey@ wrote: Interesting. Looks like Aug '07 data. http://therealnewsjunkies.ning.com/photo/photo/show? id=859527:Photo:4513 The British Commonwealth owns USA. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Notes from Satsang Fairfield
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] forwarded: We're going to talk about parallel reality. Cool. I'm checking in from Sitges, Spain, about as parallel a reality as I've ever experienced. When I've talked to you in the past about dimensions... Don't know who is speaking, but this is a shaky start IMO. Talking to is not the same thing as talking with. ...we've... We? I thought that he was the one doing the talking. ...said here's one dimension and here's another dimension, and they're living side by side with one another. But there's also a fabric of consciousness that bleeds back and forth from one dimension to the other. They're not just standing there like soldiers unrelated to each other. There's a gate or fabric of consciousness that's flowing into one, flowing back to the other, flowing here and there. In case no one else noticed it, I should point out that the two possibilities that whoever this is mentions are not self- contradictory. They could -- and in my opinion, do -- coexist peacefully. The separate realities really DO stand there like soldiers unrelated to each other, because they *aren't* related to each other. Yes, there are gates or, as I prefer, portals that lead from one reality to another, but that doesn't necessarily make the realities related one-to-one with each other. Relational Database 101, dude. On a practical level, the point at which something splits off, a choice point at which one dimension goes this way and one dimension goes that way, where we are in the world right now we're coming to a major choice point. Duh. Every second. with possibility going this way and one possibility going that way and one possibility going another way, you really get the feeling of how you can have a fountainhead and things can sprout out of that and each possible parallel reality has an interrelationship with the other ones and they're in a flow together. No problem with flow. Problem with you or any other human claiming that they know where that flow is going. I am of the opinion that that's a little too presumptuous in the face of an incalculable universe. When you have choice points that are very close like this, there's such a small gap between these three people, essentially what's happening is that the dimensions are closing in on one another. They're collapsing. Whereas before perhaps our experience was that the dimensions were very discrete, so you had a big gap. Now the gap is closing and it's a very small gap. That's why there's a feeling that the depth of difference between these three possibilities actually isn't that big. Actually, I can't argue with any of this para- graph. Been there, done that. But the fact that one *perceives* the realities as not that different doesn't make them not that different. It's the perception that has shifted IMO, not the realities and their relationship or non-relationship with each other. A dimension is kind of like a membrane. That's why when we work with the chakras, they're such a good example of what a dimension feels like because you can feel these subtle membranes in the chakras moving back and forth. A dimension is like that. It has a certain edge to it, a circumference, and that circumference is very fine. You can move from one edge of that circumference to the next edge and a whole other possible reality opens up. Not impressed. Even Carlos did better than this. Normally, we are protected from experiencing a parallel reality in any clear way because we're locked into a framework of our dimension. We can only experience what is right here. We don't have the capacity to see outside that bubble. We're kind of locked away in that bubble. There are a lot of good reasons for that. For one thing, it keeps you focused. It keeps you connected to what's going on so you don't bleed out into some other possibility. But as time and consciousness are moving in the way that they are right now, the possibility of perceiving parallel connectivity is much more pronounced, so you can have the capacity to move out into this other level of awareness and still maintain your own. Carlos did *much* better than this. This is basic first attention, second attention stuff. Did this person *take* this anywhere, or just rap? Curious in Sitges
[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Dr. Hofmann first synthesized the compound lysergic acid diethylamide in 1938 but did not discover its psychopharmacological effects until five years later, when he accidentally ingested the substance that became known to the 1960s counterculture as acid. He then took LSD hundreds of times, but regarded it as a powerful and potentially dangerous psychotropic drug that demanded respect. More important to him than the pleasures of the psychedelic experience was the drug's value as a revelatory aid for contemplating and understanding what he saw as humanity's oneness with nature. That perception, of union, which came to Dr. Hofmann as almost a religious epiphany while still a child, directed much of his personal and professional life. Dr. Hofmann was born in Baden, a spa town in northern Switzerland, on Jan. 11, 1906, the eldest of four children. His father, who had no higher education, was a toolmaker in a local factory, and the family lived in a rented apartment. But Dr. Hofmann spent much of his childhood outdoors. He would wander the hills above the town and play around the ruins of a Hapsburg castle, the Stein. It was a real paradise up there, he said in an interview in 2006. We had no money, but I had a wonderful childhood. It was during one of his ambles that he had his epiphany. It happened on a May morning I have forgotten the year but I can still point to the exact spot where it occurred, on a forest path on Martinsberg above Baden, he wrote in LSD: My Problem Child. As I strolled through the freshly greened woods filled with bird song and lit up by the morning sun, all at once everything appeared in an uncommonly clear light. It shone with the most beautiful radiance, speaking to the heart, as though it wanted to encompass me in its majesty. I was filled with an indescribable sensation of joy, oneness and blissful security. (more) http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/world/europe/30hofmann.html Good old Albert, Rest in Peace dude. That's a really good obit, with lots I didn't know, like the epiphany he had as a child. And the bicycle day celebration among acid-heads, wouldn't fancy riding a bike under the influence mind you. Ah, I get nostalgic thinking about the great times I had thanks to Alb and his freaky, synchronicitous discovery. It was an essential part of the spiritual path for me. Opens the mind to the possibilites of infinite consciousness. It's a shame the path of excess doesn't really lead to the palace of wisdom, but there is some marvellous scenery on the way. Shame it doesn't mix with the meditation but you can't have everything. I was going to call my autobiography: Albert Hofmann - His part in my downfall But I wasn't sure how many would've got the joke. ** Another good piece in the LAT (you probably need to register for free): http://tinyurl.com/3tqkld
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Oil Imports by Country
My frustration about this runs along several lines: U.S. shale oil holdings are by several accounts I have read, enormous.Shale oil is oil mixed into sand and requires processing to separate the sand out. This is expensive and why are we not working on it? Why are we not increasing the efficiency of processing? Why are we not leaders in fuel efficient cars? Do the CEO's of our auto companies still want to trot out that old lame excuse, ...we can make more money in larger models... with gas prices where they are. Why are we months behind toyota and honda on hybrids? There are figures that show it costs $1.30 to produce $1.00 of ethanol from corn. Why can't every agriculture college in the country be working on ways to reduce that including if necessary moving to some plant other than corn? Why isn't there wide spread communication about projects like this? http://www.aero2012.com/en/orion.html http://www.aero2012.com/en/orion.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. Looks like Aug '07 data. http://therealnewsjunkies.ning.com/photo/photo/show? id=859527:Photo:4513
[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD chemist dies at 102
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good old Albert, Rest in Peace dude. That's a really good obit, with lots I didn't know, like the epiphany he had as a child. And the bicycle day celebration among acid-heads, wouldn't fancy riding a bike under the influence mind you. Ah, I get nostalgic thinking about the great times I had thanks to Alb and his freaky, synchronicitous discovery. It was an essential part of the spiritual path for me. Opens the mind to the possibilites of infinite consciousness. It's a shame the path of excess doesn't really lead to the palace of wisdom, but there is some marvellous scenery on the way. Shame it doesn't mix with the meditation but you can't have everything. I was going to call my autobiography: Albert Hofmann - His part in my downfall But I wasn't sure how many would've got the joke. I would have. I doff my hat to the man as well. He gave me my first glimpse of Unity, from a bottle that still had his company's label on it. ( Should they go under, I will doff my hat to the passing of Sandoz as well. )
[FairfieldLife] 'Which One is Hillary's Puppet?'
A. Reverend Wright B. Hubby Bill C. Both Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] Re: From a Canadian: Americanize Me? No Thanks
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Intresting, MMY says that Age of Enlightenment will soon come.?? Histroricaly, there was never a Golden Age'. Only Paramatma [God] is suitable to be with the mind, and anything else in worldly existence cannot satisfy the mind when it connects to it. ~~ Swami Brahmananda Saraswati do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:11:29 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a Canadian: Americanize Me? No Thanks Fascinating. .. and grim to consider. 'Alien' was superb. To me, the only *real* refuge any more is the Divinity within. I used to expect that active Divinity to somehow show up externally, collectively, in the lives and social constructs of the people in this world. I recall reading something by Kurt Vonnegut where he kind of said the same thing - that earlier in his life he had expected somehow that the world would turn around - and that he had come to realize that it never will - and that the same old crap that has gone on for eons will still be going on for eons to come in this world, like a never-ending soap opera - far after he had died. And the only thing he could do meanwhile was to be 'nice' to others. * - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
[FairfieldLife] 'Silent Seeker Speaks'
Contributed by silent seeker on 30 April 2008I would like to share my memory of meeting Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1982 in Seelisberg. I was attending TTC (Teacher Training Course) in Switzerland across the lake from Sellisberg. ..some of the rare and last opportunities to meet with Maharishi in person. At the end of Phase 1, as we made our way to the train station to return home, a few of us had the idea to visit Seelisberg on the off chance of seeing Maharishi. When we arrived, to our surprise, we were told that Maharishi was actually expecting us! We were amazed and bemused by this news, but we were taken straight in to see him. Several of us had wanted to stay to attend the phase 3 of TTC but had been told that we had to return to our centres at home as there was no phase 3 course scheduled. We asked Maharishi personally if we could stay to complete TTC, to which he answered, ‘Yes’! We were delighted. We went straight to Holland to continue. It was a small course as only the few of us who had called in to Seelisberg were accepted on the course. At the end of the phase 3, we again asked Maharishi by letter whether we could return to Seelisberg to complete the final stage of becoming teachers. Once again, he agreed to this and we were transported back to Switzerland and enjoyed 2 meetings with him in our small group. It is possible that these occasions were some of the rare and last opportunities to meet with Maharishi in person. The meetings were very intimate and something I will always remember. Thank you ‘Maharishi Remembered’ for this beautiful site and for making it possible for us to share our personal memories. If anyone met with Maharishi on Teacher Training after 1982, I would to hear your experiences too. Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] re: 'silent seeker', The site have my email and will forward your message it to me. Many thanks Jai Guru Dev Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] 'Tribal Religion or Nationalism?-What do We Choose?'
Whether here in America or there in Iraq... With whom do we trust our loyalties? Do Iraqis choose Nationalism or Religious affiliation? Do Americans choose Nationalism or Religious affiliation? Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] Re: U.S. Oil Imports by Country
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My frustration about this runs along several lines: U.S. shale oil holdings are by several accounts I have read, enormous.Shale oil is oil mixed into sand and requires processing to separate the sand out. This is expensive and why are we not working on it? Why are we not increasing the efficiency of processing? But you are. Most of the companies sucking oil out of Canadian oil sands, and leaving behind the devastated landscape and devastated community it produces are US companies. Why are we not leaders in fuel efficient cars? US Oil companies killed the electric car: One person sums it up like this: Oil companies killed the EV car. Chevron had inherited control of the worldwide patent rights for the NiMH EV-95 battery when it merged with Texaco, which had purchased them from General Motors. Chevron's unit won a $30,000,000 settlement from Toyota and Panasonic, and the production line for the large NiMH batteries was closed down and dismantled. Only smaller NiMH batteries, incapable of powering an electric vehicle or plugging in, are currently allowed by Chevron-Texaco. http://youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_commentsv=peW8kl- jpHcfromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DpeW8kl-jpHc%26feature%3DPlayList%26p% 3D333C19B1D3664253%26index%3D4 Why isn't there wide spread communication about projects like this? Because Cheney, Bush, et al, won't make as much money. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] 'Hillary has 'Testicular Foritude'
A Hillary supporter today, introduced Hillary, Saying she has Testicular Fortitude... I heard she has hair on her chest, also... What else is up with Hillary, one can only wonder... R.Gimbel Seattle, WA Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] What a Weekend!
What a Weekend! One of the craziest, busiest, most bizarre, and most fulfilling weekends of my life has just come to an end. It was the the David Lynch Weekend on Consciousness, Creativity, Sustainability and Peace. For the last three weeks I have been working full time with admissions and the event organizers to help create the event as a directed study in Communications and Media. It was a ton of work and fairly exhausting, but it was a great learning experience and totally awesome! The event was a huge success and there is nothing more fulfilling for me than knowing that I played a part in creating such an amazing experience that transformed so many lives. The new faces of prospective students, special guest performers, and brilliant speakers brought a wave of freshness and inspiration to the campus. As far as I know, everyone had a great time and can't wait to come back to live in the awesomeness of Fairfield. A highlight of the weekend was definitely crashing the Maharishi School Prom with Donovan, Moby, David Lynch, Chrysta Bell and the gang. It was like something out of a David Lynch movie--a posse of random people gathering in a warehouse jamming out before entering a room full of glammed up high school students squealing with excitement as David Lynch crowned the queen and king and Moby, Donovan, and Co. busted out singing Atlantis and a few other songs. I asked Moby, did you ever imagine that you would be in a tiny town in the cornfields of Iowa crashing a high school prom? He replied something along the lines of 'I'm just waiting to wake up in Germany in a cornfield and wonder what is going on.' It ended up being a long, random, fun night hanging out with the rock stars. Another highlight was on Sunday night hanging out with Donovan listening to stories about the old days hanging out with the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix and everyone. Now that the weekend is over and the excitement has died down, I am spending a few days resting up and figuring out what I am going to do with myself for the next two blocks. I have no classes scheduled and lots of opportunities. My problem is never that I have nothing to do, but that I have too many awesome things I want to do. Usually nature makes it really clear what I am meant to be doing and it all works out beautifully. I am hoping that this trend will continue because it has certainly led to an amazing last few months for me. Coming up next weekend is the Eco Fair on campus. I am not as involved with this as I have been in the past, but I am modeling in the EcoJam fashion show and helping give a raw foods workshop on Sunday morning. The theme this year is Artisan foods and the Slow Food Movement. It should be another fantastic weekend here in the cornfields! Peace, Puki Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: AIDS was created by the US Government to kill White People
Do you not understand ironic usage combined with metaphoric usage? That was the intent of the word darkies. They'll use whatever's handy was part of the point. They'll also use whatever they can most easily get away with. --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I totally agree with your notion that the U.S. is an equal opportunity experimenter in the arts of death and destruction. The key word here is opportunity, however, and in the fairly recent past, the opportunity to get away with it was just better if you used darkies. Uh, no, actually, as I pointed out with the NYTimes article, it was White people who they experiemented with more recently than African- Americans. And I note your use of the word darkies. Taking a rest from the n- word today, are we? It's just common sense: think of it from their point of view. The planet is for sure overpopulated. That may not be totally visible if you're sittin' in Ff, or, even, in New York City, but I assure you that it is an alarming problem visible in all areas of life: garbage management. And you can take that as anagoge: expansion of meaning and contraction (field and point) all rolled into one chock full of nuts meaning experience to blow you away big time. And note that meaning is not meaning unless it has more than one dimension: four is good for starters. Now, if you think God's chosen you to be the garbage man, then note Hamlet's position on the subject (no, Judy, we're never gonna be done talking about the depth in Hamlet that you failed to see even though you're supposed to be up on Vedic interp of lit according to Marshy). So, now, God's chosen you as the garbage man of the world (or of this forum) and you know it to your cost. If you don't control your population in a sustainable manner, Mother Nature will, and she has no problem with wiping your ass out--same way she did with the dinosaurs when they got to eating and farting more than the planet could bear. --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm originally from Montreal and while not well-known in the U.S., the CIA, in conjunction with the Royal Victoria Hospital in Montreal (connected with McGill University) did experiments on Montrealers starting in the '50s for over 25 years that involved hallucinocens and LSD and the people were NOT informed of what was the true nature of what they were given or what the purpose was. It was an attempt to create a mind-control drug for use by the U.S. military (can you say Manchurian Candidate?) Great suffering resulted from the experiments. Many claimed it was a form of torture. Although I'v never seen photographs of any the people experimented upon by the CIA I can most assuredly tell you that they were in all likelihood all white (until the '70s when there was an influx of Caribbean immigrants, Blacks in Montreal were a small percentage of the population, Oscar Peterson the late, great Jazz pianist being the noted exception). In other words, the U.S. Government is an equal opportunity experimenter on live humans without regard to race, creed, or colour. Here is a link to a New York Times article from 1981 on the whole scandal: http://tinyurl.com/4rwkbz . Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why do Duveyoung and Angela like using the n-word so much?
Nigger is an English word with an interesting history. Whenever anyone uses it, context and intent is everything. When I have a conversation with my black brother-in-law or uncle or ex-husband, that word gets used. No one gets offended--in fact, it usually is used in such a way as to elicit a lot of laughter. I believe I know Dove well enough to know that he would not use it with evil intent. So get a grip Shemp, and use your head. --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] nigger [snip] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why do Duveyoung and Angela like using the n-word so much?
Here's a little advice, Angela: Stop with the some of my best friends are... babble and just stick to not using offensive words, okay? I'm offended and that should be enough to get you to shut the fuck up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nigger is an English word with an interesting history. Whenever anyone uses it, context and intent is everything. When I have a conversation with my black brother-in-law or uncle or ex-husband, that word gets used. No one gets offended--in fact, it usually is used in such a way as to elicit a lot of laughter. I believe I know Dove well enough to know that he would not use it with evil intent. So get a grip Shemp, and use your head. --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: [snip] nigger [snip] Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] 'The Light of the Legacy Continues...'
'The Light of the Legacy Continues...' Kennedy, King, Kennedy, Obama... R.Gimbel Seattle, WashingtonMay1st 2008 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[FairfieldLife] Re: Navigating with the help of the Sun??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last sentence of Bhoja's comment on YF-suutra goes like this: [...] aadityarashmibhish ca viharan yatheSTam aakaashena gacchati. Once again, it's prolly my wild imagination, but I seem to recall from my siddhi-course, that it's possible to navigate(?) during Yffing with the help of the rays of the Sun (aaditya-rashmibhiH). Yes, that is true, but what ALL of you Ru's (TMrs and Anti-TMrs alike -- all of you are Ru's)never realised, is that it is not OUR sun you are going to navigate by, but it is a sun that is about 7 billion light years from Earth. Now go and find THAT in your Vedas. It will be found in there. So that is my gift of knowledge to you dumb Ru Humans that just have never understood this stuff. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Nickname for FFL
--- on Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:02 am, Vaj wrote: Only if it was not falsifiable. --- and one day in April, Curtis wrote: ... you haven't said anything falsifiable ... A fitting nickname for FFL is FalsiFiabilty Lookout. =) It sums up the sweet-tart attribute of FFL because people are engaged enough to point out where mistakes might lurk in anything thrown onto the forum. I like that.
[FairfieldLife] Racism of a different color
I agree with the Edg's premise (quoted below) that it is VERY DIFFICULT for a white person to know what it is to be black, but I disagree that a white person cannot possibly know what it is to be hurt, brainwashed, intimidated, forced, challenged, tortured, and negated. Separate point ~~ I can often pick out from a distance the difference between an American black and a foreign black (esp from Africa). Blacks raised in the U.S. have an internal tension and defensiveness that foreign-born-and-raised blacks don't show. That tension shows in their posture and body language. This is such a sad statement about how their environment affects them. I am not assigning blame with that statement, just observing that their environment, due to all the causes that shape it, causes a lot of tension within them. Another separate point ~~ Reincarnation (I'm *exploring* this, not making a case for reincarnation) would make it possible for a white to have been an American black in a past life, and therefore feel in their bones or their genes or soul or wherever it shows up, the tension, fear, anger (WRATH!), suspicion, that accumulates over a lifetime. ~ Spiritkin Edg wrote in the Questions for FFL's racists thread: No white person could possibly know what it is to be born black with the MASSIVE EVIL BRAINWASHING OF CENTURIES IMPACTING ONE'S MINDSET. No white can comprehend what it is like to be in a culture that has been forced to keep its mouth shut at the point of a gun -- FOR CENTURIES. No white person can possibly know what challenges are presented to a good hearted black person who is daily TORTURED with glares, sneers, abasements, and negative judgments by the dominant, heavily armed, racist kidnappers of whole African villages.
[FairfieldLife] Shotokan Dominates - Machida to annihilate more UFC goons
Loyota to annihilate more UFC goons http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm? fa=Fighter.relatedMediagid=11697ss=Machida OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan Dominates - Machida to annihilate more UFC goons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loyota to annihilate more UFC goons http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm? fa=Fighter.relatedMediagid=11697ss=Machida http://tinyurl.com/6xv2gp OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Shotokan Dominates - Machida to annihilate more UFC goons
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loyota to annihilate more UFC goons http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm? fa=Fighter.relatedMediagid=11697ss=Machida http://tinyurl.com/556qkz OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Hillary has 'Testicular Foritude'
Bet she shaves Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A Hillary supporter today, introduced Hillary, Saying she has Testicular Fortitude... I heard she has hair on her chest, also... What else is up with Hillary, one can only wonder... R.Gimbel Seattle, WA - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
