[FairfieldLife] GP and HP?
High Pressure is developing over Europe before Guru PuurNimaa (Fri 18th): http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/world/north_europe/pressure.shtml#no_url
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Now you're sounding like Prabhupada of ISKCON. That's cool, I go to the Hare Krishna restaurant every time I'm in London. Excellent tucker, and they chant at the food when they're cooking it. You don't get service like that at MacDonalds! In Berkely, California the ISKCON folks offer the food for free as part of their proselytizing efforts. The chant is a vedic method to turn the food into prasada, or as an offering to Krishna. Thus, eating this food becomes wholesome, or divine. I go to the local temple here on Sunday nights when they have their feasts...and they're also free. At the risk of sounding like a mood-maker, I must say that I have consistent transcending experiences eating their food and, yes, I attribute that to the chanting they do over the food they prepare, the offering of it to Krishna, and the fact that monks prepare it. No mood-making there, I get this too. Not very time but enough to make me wonder. Perhaps the music they play helps? I think it's a clear sign they must have something profound to offer. I agree. They don't play music at the temple I frequent, at least not while the food is served and eaten. First time I had this kind of blissful trip at a Krishan place it really felt like it started in my stomach like the sort of thing MMY talked happening about when digestion is perfect. Thing is I never go that when at a TM place and I stick to the ayurvedic diet rather closely because it seems to do me a lot of good in other ways. Another element: in addition to being vegetarian, there do not use garlic, onion, mushrooms, or eggs which I think applies to TMO kitchens these days too, no? That's exactly the stuff that you have to drop, whcih came as a shock because it's all most veggies eat. But it's worth it for how it makes you feel. Garlic and onions are very aggravating if you can drop them for a while you might feel a lot more settled inside, that's what I found anyway. But here's what I find interesting: this temple's kitchen doesn't buy organic. Nor do they consciously adhere to ayurvedic principles (I asked). The one in London isn't organic either, I don't know if it's a cost issue but they're confident their system is good enough. Certainly tasty enough, and all their profits go towards handing out food to the homeless which is cool. I thought about joining them once because the food is good, is that the right sort of reason to commit to a different religion I wonder? Also, he said that meat eating is the main cause of wars throughout the world. Is that because most veggies are too weak to pick up guns? No. Meat-eating causes high pitta aggravation among the people, thus making them extremely susceptible to violence. Also, according to Prabhupada, meat-eating causes the bad karma of violence, which the animals experience during their death. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: I acknowledge and fully subscribe to the maxim that the ways and means of karma are unfathomable. Nevertheless, I cannot help thinking of something after having seen one of Alex Baldwin's excellent PETA public service videos which I am sure most of you have seen. I'm talking about the ones in which he narrates hidden footage of operatives inside slaughterhouses, farms, labs, etc. One I saw a few days ago (sorry, I lost the link) contained footage and narrative that informs the viewer that most of the hamburger meat we eat in the U.S. comes from dairy cows who, no longer needed to produce milk because of age, go to slaughter. And, of course, horrible footage of cramped quarters in transporting said beast and how they slaughter them are enough to make you lose your meal. But even if the daily cows were treated wonderfully in life and death, I have to wonder this: milk is a complete and whole food that we are provided with in order to nourish us and give us life. Dairy cows are, in effect, like our mothers. We then, in turn, eat our
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iranian Missle Tests/Un-nerving Israel'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I agree with you. What's is up with Iran going I dare you unless some bigger global player is urging them to do so. The Iran posturing is sheer back-against-the- wall hubris and bluff IMO. And fear. It's the *same* posturing that Saddam Hussein was making when *he* knew that he was toast, too, and that it was all over for him. I find it fascinating that no one seems to be pointing out (much less noticing) that this is just the Same Old Routine being run on the American people again. The bad guys have WMDs, and they could possibly use them against Israel. Time for war. And war there will probably be. NOT because of WMDs, NOT because of Israel, but because Iran is sitting on top of the world's third largest reserves of oil. Iraq was sitting on top of the world's fourth largest reserves of oil. Now the U.S. and Britain own them, and occupy that country. Soon the same will be true of Iran. This isn't about Israel; it's about a country that is so out of control that it reserves the right to just *take* what it wants and needs from other countries that have it. The strategy is clear. Allow the prices of oil to skyrocket in the U.S., to the point where the people are hurting. Then start a trumped-up war against Iran, and then artificially lower the oil prices for a while after it's a done deal. Voila. The U.S. people will have just allowed another country to be taken over in the name of them being able to drive their gas-guzzlers. Americans. The New Germans.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Now you're sounding like Prabhupada of ISKCON. That's cool, I go to the Hare Krishna restaurant every time I'm in London. Excellent tucker, and they chant at the food when they're cooking it. You don't get service like that at MacDonalds! In Berkely, California the ISKCON folks offer the food for free as part of their proselytizing efforts. The chant is a vedic method to turn the food into prasada, or as an offering to Krishna. Thus, eating this food becomes wholesome, or divine. I go to the local temple here on Sunday nights when they have their feasts...and they're also free. At the risk of sounding like a mood-maker, I must say that I have consistent transcending experiences eating their food and, yes, I attribute that to the chanting they do over the food they prepare, the offering of it to Krishna, and the fact that monks prepare it. No mood-making there, I get this too. Not very time but enough to make me wonder. Perhaps the music they play helps? I think it's a clear sign they must have something profound to offer. I agree. They don't play music at the temple I frequent, at least not while the food is served and eaten. First time I had this kind of blissful trip at a Krishan place it really felt like it started in my stomach like the sort of thing MMY talked happening about when digestion is perfect. Thing is I never go that when at a TM place and I stick to the ayurvedic diet rather closely because it seems to do me a lot of good in other ways. Another element: in addition to being vegetarian, there do not use garlic, onion, mushrooms, or eggs which I think applies to TMO kitchens these days too, no? That's exactly the stuff that you have to drop, whcih came as a shock because it's all most veggies eat. But it's worth it for how it makes you feel. Garlic and onions are very aggravating if you can drop them for a while you might feel a lot more settled inside, that's what I found anyway. But here's what I find interesting: this temple's kitchen doesn't buy organic. Nor do they consciously adhere to ayurvedic principles (I asked). The one in London isn't organic either, I don't know if it's a cost issue but they're confident their system is good enough. Certainly tasty enough, and all their profits go towards handing out food to the homeless which is cool. I thought about joining them once because the food is good, is that the right sort of reason to commit to a different religion I wonder? Well, I never had the fantasy of joining them but I did have the fantasy of becoming filthy rich and being in the position of being able to hire those very same cooks to make my meals three times a day, seven days a week...
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Now you're sounding like Prabhupada of ISKCON. That's cool, I go to the Hare Krishna restaurant every time I'm in London. Excellent tucker, and they chant at the food when they're cooking it. You don't get service like that at MacDonalds! In Berkely, California the ISKCON folks offer the food for free as part of their proselytizing efforts. The chant is a vedic method to turn the food into prasada, or as an offering to Krishna. Thus, eating this food becomes wholesome, or divine. I go to the local temple here on Sunday nights when they have their feasts...and they're also free. At the risk of sounding like a mood-maker, I must say that I have consistent transcending experiences eating their food and, yes, I attribute that to the chanting they do over the food they prepare, the offering of it to Krishna, and the fact that monks prepare it. No mood-making there, I get this too. Not very time but enough to make me wonder. Perhaps the music they play helps? I think it's a clear sign they must have something profound to offer. I agree. They don't play music at the temple I frequent, at least not while the food is served and eaten. First time I had this kind of blissful trip at a Krishan place it really felt like it started in my stomach like the sort of thing MMY talked happening about when digestion is perfect. Thing is I never go that when at a TM place and I stick to the ayurvedic diet rather closely because it seems to do me a lot of good in other ways. Another element: in addition to being vegetarian, there do not use garlic, onion, mushrooms, or eggs which I think applies to TMO kitchens these days too, no? That's exactly the stuff that you have to drop, whcih came as a shock because it's all most veggies eat. But it's worth it for how it makes you feel. Garlic and onions are very aggravating if you can drop them for a while you might feel a lot more settled inside, that's what I found anyway. But here's what I find interesting: this temple's kitchen doesn't buy organic. Nor do they consciously adhere to ayurvedic principles (I asked). The one in London isn't organic either, I don't know if it's a cost issue but they're confident their system is good enough. Certainly tasty enough, and all their profits go towards handing out food to the homeless which is cool. I thought about joining them once because the food is good, is that the right sort of reason to commit to a different religion I wonder? Well, I never had the fantasy of joining them but I did have the fantasy of becoming filthy rich and being in the position of being able to hire those very same cooks to make my meals three times a day, seven days a week... You think big, I like it. But if you did that you'd miss out on the rather good foxy babe ratio they seem to have. But then they make a virtue out of celibacy so it all works itself out. I make do with a copy of their cookbook, but it's not the same if you're not a good chanter.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
Check out the ad that pops up when you rollover meals or restaurants in the first paragraph of this Hare Krishna link: http://www.vegetarian-restaurants.net/OtherInfo/HK-Temples-USA.htm http://www.vegetarian-restaurants.net/OtherInfo/HK-Temples-USA.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: There seems to be no strong correlation between breathing during meditation and signs of anxiety. Nowadays when I sit to meditate, my breathing usually almost instantaneously slows down, and sometimes seems almost to stop altogether. That happened also just a moment ago during my morning meditation, but I was quite surprised that simultaneously the palms of my hands became all sweaty. That hasn't happened for quite a while now. Wassup? Unstressing? :D Sweaty palms can be a sign of dysfunctional breathing. Well, that makes sense. But associated with the sweaty palms in my case is a mild sense of fear that seems to be localised especially on(?) my temples.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out the ad that pops up when you rollover meals or restaurants in the first paragraph of this Hare Krishna link: http://www.vegetarian-restaurants.net/OtherInfo/HK-Temples-USA.htm http://www.vegetarian-restaurants.net/OtherInfo/HK-Temples-USA.htm I didn't get any ads, maybe it goes through a different server. But there's a list of all Krisna places, you seem well catered for over there but there's only two in the UK. Here's my local one: http://www.iskcon-london.org/govindas-london.html They do *the* best desserts. Hmmm, getting hungry already...
[FairfieldLife] Bomb Iran?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bomb Iran?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons That's it exactly. Leave the Democrats with *three* unwinnable wars to get themselves out of instead of two, not to mention a few trillion more dollars of debt. On the other hand, I'd almost welcome a war on Iran if there was a clause that said that *every* American who backed it had to go there and fight until it was over, right on the front lines. That would include the President, VP, all members of the Cabinet, all Senators and Congressmen who voted for the war, and everyone in America who supports it. It would also include all of the Zionists who are doing their best to start the war. As a corollary, no one could be sent there *unless* they lobbied for or voted for the war. Yes, such a war would mean tragedy for Iran, but if done as suggested above it would mean a long- overdue house cleaning for America. The more people who start such wars who die fighting them the better, in my opinion.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
On Jul 10, 2008, at 8:38 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: This would help explain the appearance of long-term Purushas who, last I popped in to visit them, in the late 80's, they looked like death warmed over: fragile, pale, anemic and depleted, like they had been vampirized. A psychic friend who accompanied us on the visit didn't want to even get near them! I only responded to the anemia issue, which is most likely due to iron deficiency. But people can screw themselves up with their diets in any number of ways. Especially if other things are going on. Like not enough exercise. Undiagnosed health problems. Too much time meditating. It's been also rumored that there's a lot of Osteoporosis on Purusha and Mother Divine, also due to inadequate diet, exercise and improper medical treatment. It's scary what people will do in the misguided attempt to follow a guru's instruction. So much for invincibility, huh? :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 10, 2008, at 8:38 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: This would help explain the appearance of long-term Purushas who, last I popped in to visit them, in the late 80's, they looked like death warmed over: fragile, pale, anemic and depleted, like they had been vampirized. A psychic friend who accompanied us on the visit didn't want to even get near them! I only responded to the anemia issue, which is most likely due to iron deficiency. But people can screw themselves up with their diets in any number of ways. Especially if other things are going on. Like not enough exercise. Undiagnosed health problems. Too much time meditating. It's been also rumored that there's a lot of Osteoporosis on Purusha and Mother Divine, also due to inadequate diet, exercise and improper medical treatment. It's scary what people will do in the misguided attempt to follow a guru's instruction. So much for invincibility, huh? :-) My experience on a year long course was that my digestion died. This is very common in the TMO and extremely unpleasant, esp- cially for someone like me who likes a bit of a scoff. Yet it isn't talked about, in fact talk about it being something to do with the programme is actively put down. I never heard a convincing explanation from ayurveda other than that it's like when you clean a pot, first time you scrub it dirt comes off and after that it starts to get better. I think that implies it's part of the unstressing process. Whatever, it aint pleasant and I've seen eighteen year olds from MMY schools having to eat ginger pickle to get their digestion going. It seemed to me that after just sitting in silence for 9 hours a day my metabolism had slowed to the point where it couldn't get going enough to digest something. It must have a negative effect on your bodies ability to process nutrients not that you get much of those with all that overcooked rice and dhal. I was eating protein tablets and vitamins and I was still rather frail at the end of it. I think this is another thing that should be studied in relation to TM and health as it's apparently very common.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
On Jul 11, 2008, at 7:45 AM, Hugo wrote: My experience on a year long course was that my digestion died. This is very common in the TMO and extremely unpleasant, esp- cially for someone like me who likes a bit of a scoff. Yet it isn't talked about, in fact talk about it being something to do with the programme is actively put down. I never heard a convincing explanation from ayurveda other than that it's like when you clean a pot, first time you scrub it dirt comes off and after that it starts to get better. I think that implies it's part of the unstressing process. Whatever, it aint pleasant and I've seen eighteen year olds from MMY schools having to eat ginger pickle to get their digestion going. It seemed to me that after just sitting in silence for 9 hours a day my metabolism had slowed to the point where it couldn't get going enough to digest something. It must have a negative effect on your bodies ability to process nutrients not that you get much of those with all that overcooked rice and dhal. I was eating protein tablets and vitamins and I was still rather frail at the end of it. I think this is another thing that should be studied in relation to TM and health as it's apparently very common. Not sure what to make of that, it's as if it induces not only mental flatness, but corresponding digestive flatness as well.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 11, 2008, at 7:45 AM, Hugo wrote: My experience on a year long course was that my digestion died. This is very common in the TMO and extremely unpleasant, esp- cially for someone like me who likes a bit of a scoff. Yet it isn't talked about, in fact talk about it being something to do with the programme is actively put down. I never heard a convincing explanation from ayurveda other than that it's like when you clean a pot, first time you scrub it dirt comes off and after that it starts to get better. I think that implies it's part of the unstressing process. Whatever, it aint pleasant and I've seen eighteen year olds from MMY schools having to eat ginger pickle to get their digestion going. It seemed to me that after just sitting in silence for 9 hours a day my metabolism had slowed to the point where it couldn't get going enough to digest something. It must have a negative effect on your bodies ability to process nutrients not that you get much of those with all that overcooked rice and dhal. I was eating protein tablets and vitamins and I was still rather frail at the end of it. I think this is another thing that should be studied in relation to TM and health as it's apparently very common. Not sure what to make of that, it's as if it induces not only mental flatness, but corresponding digestive flatness as well. I'm surprised if you haven't heard of it before. It aint nice but as I say it's brushed off. I would say that out of the 80 of us who were on this course for the whole year two-thirds were having problems. I'd like to hear if anyone else on here has experienced it, seems unlikely that it was just the course I was on. Especially when you see how the purusha look generally. As for the mental flatness; No, I didn't feel as good as I'd hoped after the course, very spaced out. But I was putting it down to the old unstressing, I wouldn't do it again. It definitely took a long time to get back into the swing of things.
[FairfieldLife] 'Israeli War Planes on Practice Runs'
Crude Oil Rises to Record on Speculation Israel May Attack Iran By Alexander Kwiatkowski July 11 (Bloomberg) -- Crude oil rose more than $4 to a record on concerns that Israel may be preparing to attack Iran, while a strike in Brazil and renewed militant activity in Nigeria threaten to cut supplies. Oil rallied to a record high of $145.98 a barrel after the Jerusalem Post said Israeli war planes practiced over Iraq, adding to speculation the country is preparing to attack Iran. A Brazilian union said it plans a five-day strike on platforms that pump 80 percent of the country's crude and Nigerian militants pledged to renew attacks on oil facilities. ``Iran and Nigerian political woes dominate proceedings,'' said Robert Laughlin, senior broker at MF Global Ltd. in London. ``Traders are wary of continuity of physical oil supplies.'' Crude oil for August delivery rose as much as $4.33, or 3.1 percent, to an all time high of $145.98 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange and was trading at $145.17 at 12:25 p.m. in London. Israeli war planes are conducting maneuvers in Iraqi airspace and using U.S. airbases in the country, possibly practicing for a strike against Iran, the newspaper reported, citing comments by Iraqi officials in local media. Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev denied the report. Iran, OPEC's second biggest producer, this week tested missiles capable of reaching Israel. Brent crude oil for August settlement rose as much as $4.37 a barrel, or 3.1 percent, to $146.40 a barrel and was trading at $145.66 at 12:25 p.m. local time on London's ICE Futures Europe exchange. Falling Stockpiles Yesterday, the contract gained $5.45, or 4 percent, to $142.03 a barrel. Prices climbed to a record $146.69 on July 3. Oil may rise next week because of threats to supply from Iran and Nigeria and falling stockpiles in the U.S., the biggest energy-consuming country, according to a Bloomberg News survey. About 4,500 employees of state-controlled Petroleo Brasileiro SA will take part in a protest on platforms in the offshore Campos basin to get full pay for the day they return to the mainland after a 14-day shift at sea, a union official said yesterday. Iran has ignored United Nations efforts to halt its uranium-enrichment program and says further sanctions won't affect its plans to develop nuclear energy. The U.S. has led international efforts to force Iran to give up enrichment because of concern the technology may be used to develop nuclear weapons. Iran's Exports The standoff has led to concern that Iran may come under attack from the U.S. or Israel, disrupting exports from OPEC's second-biggest producer. ``You could survive with one of these factors, but if they come all at the same time it will drive prices up,'' said Thina Saltvedt, an analyst at Nordea Bank AB in Oslo. ``As soon as violent attacks increase in Nigeria it is a threat to production.'' The Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta said attacks will resume on oil facilities. The Nigerian militant group said it will call off its unilateral cease-fire beginning midnight on July 12. MEND's attacks on pipelines and other installations have cut more than 20 percent of Nigeria's oil exports since 2006. MEND says it is fighting for a greater share of oil wealth for the impoverished inhabitants of the Niger Delta. The group declared a cease-fire after a June 19 attack on Royal Dutch Shell Plc's Bonga deep-water oilfield, located 120 kilometers (75 miles) offshore that cut 190,000 barrels a day of oil output. . Last Updated: July 11, 2008
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bomb Iran?
TurquoiseB wrote: Leave the Democrats with *three* unwinnable wars to get themselves out of instead of two, So, we are agreed that there's a war going on. not to mention a few trillion more dollars of debt. But, you don't pay any taxes. On the other hand, I'd almost welcome a war on Iran if there was a clause that said that *every* American who backed it had to go there and fight until it was over, right on the front lines. But not any Frenchmen or Spaniards. That would include the President, VP, all members of the Cabinet, all Senators and Congressmen who voted for the war, But, you don't vote. and everyone in America who supports it. It would also include all of the Zionists who are doing their best to start the war. So, we're in a war, but you won't fight, you don't vote or pay any taxes, and you think the Jews started the war. As a corollary, no one could be sent there *unless* they lobbied for or voted for the war. So, you're going to a bar or cafe to troll a chat room, or visit a flea market, or watch TV or watch an old movie, or walk the dog. Yes, such a war would mean tragedy for Iran, but if done as suggested above it would mean a long- overdue house cleaning for America. Because you use only Iranian or Russian oil. The more people who start such wars who die fighting them the better, in my opinion. Put down the pipe, Barry, and step away from your laptop keyboard. Now read again what you just wrote. It is very difficult to believe that you once were a TM teacher. It's very, very, difficult to believe that you're now a practicing Buddhist. What happened to you to make you hate so many people?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bomb Iran?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons That's it exactly. Leave the Democrats with *three* unwinnable wars to get themselves out of instead of two, not to mention a few trillion more dollars of debt. (snip) The thing is: 'It takes two to Tango' Why is Iran, acting as if it is rising ancient power- Seeking to dominate the Middle East, control all oil in the area; Become a center of military nuclear might(Iran has natural deposits of Uranium on their land)... Also, I have heard, that much like thd fundementalist Christians in this country, there is a mirror image on the Iranian side. They also believe in a final confrontation between 'good and evil'... And in the aftermath of the 'Complete Chaos'... Then the 'Great Persian Islamic Dude' will reign over the world... Sound a bit like the old German delusions of the 30's... The Jewish people have been through 3 holocausts, to date. One in Babylon, one at Rome, and one at Germany/Poland. In 1948, Harry Truman gave his support to the newly formed country of Israel, giving legitamacy to the New State. Israel is a democracy and much of the blood, sweat and tears of the horrendous karma, of WWII, Has left the Jewish people: strong, prepared for anything. R.G.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My experience on a year long course was that my digestion died. This is very common in the TMO and extremely unpleasant, esp- cially for someone like me who likes a bit of a scoff. Yet it isn't talked about, in fact talk about it being something to do with the programme is actively put down. I never heard a convincing explanation from ayurveda other than that it's like when you clean a pot, first time you scrub it dirt comes off and after that it starts to get better. I think that implies it's part of the unstressing process. Whatever, it aint pleasant and I've seen eighteen year olds from MMY schools having to eat ginger pickle to get their digestion going. I'm fortunate in having a robust digestive tract that can digest pretty much anything. The carb-heavy grain and beans only made me fat, dull, and lethargic; switching to a more paleo diet took the weight off and restored my energy. Others aren't so lucky. There's a guy in FF who I've seen on another diet related Yahoo group, and his is probably one of the most extreme cases of a Roo diet destroying health. The guy can now barely eat or keep weight on, and the diagnosis seems to be gastroparesis. As for spiritual awakening experiences, I didn't start having them until after I'd changed my diet to include more meat and far less gain and beans. Go figure...
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iranian Missle Tests/Un-nerving Israel'
Bhairitu wrote: Before a bunch of fundamentalist nuts founded Israel Jews and Palestinians coexisted there peacefully. Palestinians? Please explain at what point in history there was state of 'Palestine' filled with ethnic 'Palestininas' that coexisted there peacefully with Israelis Jews. Have you ever considered actually reading a history book, Barry? The arrival of Islam united the Arab tribes, who flooded into the Semitic Levant and Iraq. In 661, and throughout the Caliphate's rule by the Ummayad dynasty, Damascus was established as the Muslim capital. In these newly acquired territories, Arabs comprised the ruling military elite and as such, enjoyed special privileges. Arab: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iranian Missle Tests/Un-nerving Israel'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: And I agree with you. What's is up with Iran going I dare you unless some bigger global player is urging them to do so. The Iran posturing is sheer back-against-the- wall hubris and bluff IMO. And fear. It's the *same* posturing that Saddam Hussein was making when *he* knew that he was toast, too, and that it was all over for him. Actually, Iran's leaders are a lot smarter than Saddam. They're playing a dangerous but very carefully calculated game. I find it fascinating that no one seems to be pointing out (much less noticing) that this is just the Same Old Routine being run on the American people again. Your life would be so much less fascinating if you lived it in the real world rather than inside your fantasies. This is not only the Same Old Routine, it's Old News, a given. Nobody's pointing it out because everybody knows it already. The bad guys have WMDs, and they could possibly use them against Israel. Time for war. Actually, nobody at this point is saying Iran has WMD, only that they're working on them. And war there will probably be. NOT because of WMDs, NOT because of Israel, but because Iran is sitting on top of the world's third largest reserves of oil. No sh*t! Why, who'd-a thunk it? What a revelation! Thank goodness we have you around to explain things to us. However, there is substantial resistance inside the administration--from the Joint Chiefs, the Pentagon, and the secretary of defense, among others--to a U.S. strike on Iran. snip The strategy is clear. Allow the prices of oil to skyrocket in the U.S., to the point where the people are hurting. Then start a trumped-up war against Iran, and then artificially lower the oil prices for a while after it's a done deal. Voila. Again, it's clear in your fantasies. In actuality, oil prices are a *lot* more complicated than that. The U.S. people will have just allowed another country to be taken over in the name of them being able to drive their gas-guzzlers. Americans. The New Germans. How blissfully simplistic...
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: My experience on a year long course was that my digestion died. This is very common in the TMO and extremely unpleasant, esp- cially for someone like me who likes a bit of a scoff. Yet it isn't talked about, in fact talk about it being something to do with the programme is actively put down. I never heard a convincing explanation from ayurveda other than that it's like when you clean a pot, first time you scrub it dirt comes off and after that it starts to get better. I think that implies it's part of the unstressing process. Whatever, it aint pleasant and I've seen eighteen year olds from MMY schools having to eat ginger pickle to get their digestion going. I'm fortunate in having a robust digestive tract that can digest pretty much anything. The carb-heavy grain and beans only made me fat, dull, and lethargic; switching to a more paleo diet took the weight off and restored my energy. Others aren't so lucky. There's a guy in FF who I've seen on another diet related Yahoo group, and his is probably one of the most extreme cases of a Roo diet destroying health. The guy can now barely eat or keep weight on, and the diagnosis seems to be gastroparesis. You think it might be diet more than the TMSP slowing down the digestion? Perhaps, but I had a strong eat-anything stomach before that course and I'd eat the typical ayruvedic mush that we all had. Maybe it was a mixture, but I think my idea that the metabolism slows down so much the digestion packs up is quite likely. I remember it was so bad once I couldn't eat anything for four days and then had to wean myself back onto solid food with hot milk then this dhal recipe I'd been given. Hmmm you can tell they must get it all the time if they have special recipes to nurse you with. I Can't believe I kept doing it! There you go, live and learn. Eventually. I wonder what the chances are of DOJ and the boys invest- igating this little aspect of TM and health, perhaps we'll see it in the next volume of the collected papers. D'you think? As for spiritual awakening experiences, I didn't start having them until after I'd changed my diet to include more meat and far less gain and beans. Go figure... I guess it's kind of ironic that MMY taught that perfect digestion is crucial to enlightenement.
[FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday to Geezerfreak and Tom Traynor a week from today
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Now you're sounding like Prabhupada of ISKCON. That's cool, I go to the Hare Krishna restaurant every time I'm in London. Excellent tucker, and they chant at the food when they're cooking it. You don't get service like that at MacDonalds! In Berkely, California the ISKCON folks offer the food for free as part of their proselytizing efforts. The chant is a vedic method to turn the food into prasada, or as an offering to Krishna. Thus, eating this food becomes wholesome, or divine. I go to the local temple here on Sunday nights when they have their feasts...and they're also free. At the risk of sounding like a mood-maker, I must say that I have consistent transcending experiences eating their food and, yes, I attribute that to the chanting they do over the food they prepare, the offering of it to Krishna, and the fact that monks prepare it. No mood-making there, I get this too. Not very time but enough to make me wonder. Perhaps the music they play helps? I think it's a clear sign they must have something profound to offer. I agree. They don't play music at the temple I frequent, at least not while the food is served and eaten. First time I had this kind of blissful trip at a Krishan place it really felt like it started in my stomach like the sort of thing MMY talked happening about when digestion is perfect. Thing is I never go that when at a TM place and I stick to the ayurvedic diet rather closely because it seems to do me a lot of good in other ways. Another element: in addition to being vegetarian, there do not use garlic, onion, mushrooms, or eggs which I think applies to TMO kitchens these days too, no? That's exactly the stuff that you have to drop, whcih came as a shock because it's all most veggies eat. But it's worth it for how it makes you feel. Garlic and onions are very aggravating if you can drop them for a while you might feel a lot more settled inside, that's what I found anyway. But here's what I find interesting: this temple's kitchen doesn't buy organic. Nor do they consciously adhere to ayurvedic principles (I asked). The one in London isn't organic either, I don't know if it's a cost issue but they're confident their system is good enough. Certainly tasty enough, and all their profits go towards handing out food to the homeless which is cool. I thought about joining them once because the food is good, is that the right sort of reason to commit to a different religion I wonder? Well, I never had the fantasy of joining them but I did have the fantasy of becoming filthy rich and being in the position of being able to hire those very same cooks to make my meals three times a day, seven days a week... You think big, I like it. But if you did that you'd miss out on the rather good foxy babe ratio they seem to have. But then they make a virtue out of celibacy so it all works itself out. I make do with a copy of their cookbook, but it's not the same if you're not a good chanter. Which one? I bought the large and expensive Lord Krisna's Cuisine and did not like it. This is perhaps unfair of me to say as I only tried one recipe -- the semolina halva, one of my favourite dishes -- and it did NOT turn out like the wonderful halva I get at the temple. As for the chanting, if you ask them, as I did, how to offer the food they make to Krishna, they'll tell you the procedure although I am sure it doesn't get the same effects as they, as celibates, get.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iranian Missle Tests/Un-nerving Israel'
Bhairitu wrote: The Iran posturing is sheer back-against-the- wall hubris and bluff IMO. And fear. It's the *same* posturing that Saddam Hussein was making when *he* knew that he was toast, too, and that it was all over for him. Judy wrote: Actually, Iran's leaders are a lot smarter than Saddam. They're playing a dangerous but very carefully calculated game. Speaking today to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, Obama won applause with a promise to do everything in my power to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Read more: 'Obama seeks to reassure Jewish Americans' By Johanna Neuman Los Angeles Times, June 5, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/5rsnf2 I find it fascinating that no one seems to be pointing out (much less noticing) that this is just the Same Old Routine being run on the American people again. Your life would be so much less fascinating if you lived it in the real world rather than inside your fantasies. This is not only the Same Old Routine, it's Old News, a given. Nobody's pointing it out because everybody knows it already. The bad guys have WMDs, and they could possibly use them against Israel. Time for war. Actually, nobody at this point is saying Iran has WMD, only that they're working on them. And war there will probably be. NOT because of WMDs, NOT because of Israel, but because Iran is sitting on top of the world's third largest reserves of oil. No sh*t! Why, who'd-a thunk it? What a revelation! Thank goodness we have you around to explain things to us. However, there is substantial resistance inside the administration--from the Joint Chiefs, the Pentagon, and the secretary of defense, among others--to a U.S. strike on Iran. snip The strategy is clear. Allow the prices of oil to skyrocket in the U.S., to the point where the people are hurting. Then start a trumped-up war against Iran, and then artificially lower the oil prices for a while after it's a done deal. Voila. Again, it's clear in your fantasies. In actuality, oil prices are a *lot* more complicated than that. The U.S. people will have just allowed another country to be taken over in the name of them being able to drive their gas-guzzlers. Americans. The New Germans. How blissfully simplistic...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: There seems to be no strong correlation between breathing during meditation and signs of anxiety. Nowadays when I sit to meditate, my breathing usually almost instantaneously slows down, and sometimes seems almost to stop altogether. That happened also just a moment ago during my morning meditation, but I was quite surprised that simultaneously the palms of my hands became all sweaty. That hasn't happened for quite a while now. Wassup? Unstressing? :D Sweaty palms can be a sign of dysfunctional breathing. Well, that makes sense. But associated with the sweaty palms in my case is a mild sense of fear that seems to be localised especially on(?) my temples. That can also result from improper breathing.
[FairfieldLife] Back nuke deal: Sri Sri Ravi Shankar to Opposition
Back nuke deal: Sri Sri Ravi Shankar to Opposition Agencies Posted online: Thursday , July 10, 2008 at 05:35:57 Updated: Thursday , July 10, 2008 at 05:31:13 Washington, July 10: Invoking national interest, renowned Spiritual Guru, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, has appealed to all Indian political parties to display `magnanimity' and support the troubled Indo-US nuclear deal. All parties must support the deal that is beneficial to the country, he said. India has always had a tradition of the government and opposition coming together in national interest whenever a crisis of war befall on the nation, he said, appealing to all the political parties to display magnanimity on the issue. At a time when the country is faced with severe energy shortage, the government has negotiated a nuclear deal with the US, which can augment sustainable energy sources, he said in a statement issued in Seattle. The opposition need not oppose everything that the government does, Sri Sri added -
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bomb Iran?
R.G. wrote: Then the 'Great Persian Islamic Dude' will reign over the world... Rage Against the OPEC Machine: http://tinyurl.com/585keu 'Rage Against the OPEC Machine' Posted by Scott Mirengoff Powerline, July 10, 2008
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Now you're sounding like Prabhupada of ISKCON. That's cool, I go to the Hare Krishna restaurant every time I'm in London. Excellent tucker, and they chant at the food when they're cooking it. You don't get service like that at MacDonalds! In Berkely, California the ISKCON folks offer the food for free as part of their proselytizing efforts. The chant is a vedic method to turn the food into prasada, or as an offering to Krishna. Thus, eating this food becomes wholesome, or divine. I go to the local temple here on Sunday nights when they have their feasts...and they're also free. At the risk of sounding like a mood-maker, I must say that I have consistent transcending experiences eating their food and, yes, I attribute that to the chanting they do over the food they prepare, the offering of it to Krishna, and the fact that monks prepare it. No mood-making there, I get this too. Not very time but enough to make me wonder. Perhaps the music they play helps? I think it's a clear sign they must have something profound to offer. I agree. They don't play music at the temple I frequent, at least not while the food is served and eaten. First time I had this kind of blissful trip at a Krishan place it really felt like it started in my stomach like the sort of thing MMY talked happening about when digestion is perfect. Thing is I never go that when at a TM place and I stick to the ayurvedic diet rather closely because it seems to do me a lot of good in other ways. Another element: in addition to being vegetarian, there do not use garlic, onion, mushrooms, or eggs which I think applies to TMO kitchens these days too, no? That's exactly the stuff that you have to drop, whcih came as a shock because it's all most veggies eat. But it's worth it for how it makes you feel. Garlic and onions are very aggravating if you can drop them for a while you might feel a lot more settled inside, that's what I found anyway. But here's what I find interesting: this temple's kitchen doesn't buy organic. Nor do they consciously adhere to ayurvedic principles (I asked). The one in London isn't organic either, I don't know if it's a cost issue but they're confident their system is good enough. Certainly tasty enough, and all their profits go towards handing out food to the homeless which is cool. I thought about joining them once because the food is good, is that the right sort of reason to commit to a different religion I wonder? Well, I never had the fantasy of joining them but I did have the fantasy of becoming filthy rich and being in the position of being able to hire those very same cooks to make my meals three times a day, seven days a week... You think big, I like it. But if you did that you'd miss out on the rather good foxy babe ratio they seem to have. But then they make a virtue out of celibacy so it all works itself out. I make do with a copy of their cookbook, but it's not the same if you're not a good chanter. Which one? I bought the large and expensive Lord Krisna's Cuisine and did not like it. This is perhaps unfair of me to say as I only tried one recipe -- the semolina halva, one of my favourite dishes -- and it did NOT turn out like the wonderful halva I get at the temple. As for the chanting, if you ask them, as I did, how to offer the food they make to Krishna, they'll tell you the procedure although I am sure it doesn't get the same effects as they, as celibates, get. I saw an advert for kitchen staff in their London restaurant and thought about going for it, I guess it must have applied
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: There seems to be no strong correlation between breathing during meditation and signs of anxiety. Nowadays when I sit to meditate, my breathing usually almost instantaneously slows down, and sometimes seems almost to stop altogether. That happened also just a moment ago during my morning meditation, but I was quite surprised that simultaneously the palms of my hands became all sweaty. That hasn't happened for quite a while now. Wassup? Unstressing? :D Sweaty palms can be a sign of dysfunctional breathing. Well, that makes sense. But associated with the sweaty palms in my case is a mild sense of fear that seems to be localised especially on(?) my temples. Well, I don't know you and haven't talked or seen you, but that can also result from improper breathing technique. Do you breath through your mouth? If so, try breathing only through your nose. You also might try some simple breathing exercises. For example, one that works for some people is to slowly inhale through your nose over a count of five, making sure you are belly breathing. Hold the breath for a count of five, then slowly exhale through the mouth during a count of five. Do this for five minutes a couple times a day. If it is difficult, you can do the slow breathing two or three time, intersperse two or three regular breaths, and the go back to the slow breathing. Continue for five minutes. Not medical advise, just something to try to see how it works.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iranian Missle Tests/Un-nerving Israel'
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I agree with you. What's is up with Iran going I dare you unless some bigger global player is urging them to do so. The Iran posturing is sheer back-against-the- wall hubris and bluff IMO. And fear. It's the *same* posturing that Saddam Hussein was making when *he* knew that he was toast, too, and that it was all over for him. I find it fascinating that no one seems to be pointing out (much less noticing) that this is just the Same Old Routine being run on the American people again. Who's no one? You mean the mainstream media? This has come up all the time in alternative media like AAR (Thom Hartmann) and NovaM (Mike Malloy) and InfoWars (Alex Jones). And even local mainstream around here: KGO (Gene Burns). The bad guys have WMDs, and they could possibly use them against Israel. Time for war. And war there will probably be. NOT because of WMDs, NOT because of Israel, but because Iran is sitting on top of the world's third largest reserves of oil. Iraq was sitting on top of the world's fourth largest reserves of oil. Now the U.S. and Britain own them, and occupy that country. Soon the same will be true of Iran. This isn't about Israel; it's about a country that is so out of control that it reserves the right to just *take* what it wants and needs from other countries that have it. Maybe it isn't so much the country but the same evil souls who seem to reincarnate and run the countries down through time like Rome, Germany, etc. The strategy is clear. Allow the prices of oil to skyrocket in the U.S., to the point where the people are hurting. Then start a trumped-up war against Iran, and then artificially lower the oil prices for a while after it's a done deal. Voila. The U.S. people will have just allowed another country to be taken over in the name of them being able to drive their gas-guzzlers. Yup, it's been evident all along. Just as it was with Iraq. Even WWII was fought over oil (as was WWI). Americans. The New Germans. Correction: Amerikan Sheeple, the New Germans. It's kinda fun to test people in places by bringing it up to see where they fall on the stupid meter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
bob_brigante wrote: *** For that 10 months of TM before I quit eating meat, I certainly did feel that I was transcending -- it was only when my awareness had grown to a certain level that I could no longer tolerate the dulling effect of eating meat (I had quit alcohol and cigarettes, effortlessly, simply because they were no longer fun to do, in the same week about two months earlier). There's no requirement to change any habits to do TM because regular practitioners will make any changes that need to be made in order to evolve, without any effort or feeling that one is shortchanging one's desires in order to get on the evolution train. Of course, if one is doing a useless meditation technique, or the couch-potato technique, diet does not cause discomfort because dullness doesn't mind things that pile on more dullness. And what are useless meditation techniques, Bob?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
shempmcgurk wrote: Well, I never had the fantasy of joining them but I did have the fantasy of becoming filthy rich and being in the position of being able to hire those very same cooks to make my meals three times a day, seven days a week... Dream on. Must be those right-wing or libertarian philosophies that have kept that desire from materializing while lefties live well and prosper. :D :D :D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
Vaj wrote: On Jul 10, 2008, at 8:38 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: This would help explain the appearance of long-term Purushas who, last I popped in to visit them, in the late 80's, they looked like death warmed over: fragile, pale, anemic and depleted, like they had been vampirized. A psychic friend who accompanied us on the visit didn't want to even get near them! I only responded to the anemia issue, which is most likely due to iron deficiency. But people can screw themselves up with their diets in any number of ways. Especially if other things are going on. Like not enough exercise. Undiagnosed health problems. Too much time meditating. It's been also rumored that there's a lot of Osteoporosis on Purusha and Mother Divine, also due to inadequate diet, exercise and improper medical treatment. It's scary what people will do in the misguided attempt to follow a guru's instruction. So much for invincibility, huh? :-) If their diets were anything like what was served on some of the TTCs or sidha courses no wonder. Let's see there was the cauliflower diet, the bell pepper diet, the broccoli diet..
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
Hugo wrote: My experience on a year long course was that my digestion died. This is very common in the TMO and extremely unpleasant, esp- cially for someone like me who likes a bit of a scoff. Yet it isn't talked about, in fact talk about it being something to do with the programme is actively put down. I never heard a convincing explanation from ayurveda other than that it's like when you clean a pot, first time you scrub it dirt comes off and after that it starts to get better. I think that implies it's part of the unstressing process. Whatever, it aint pleasant and I've seen eighteen year olds from MMY schools having to eat ginger pickle to get their digestion going. It seemed to me that after just sitting in silence for 9 hours a day my metabolism had slowed to the point where it couldn't get going enough to digest something. It must have a negative effect on your bodies ability to process nutrients not that you get much of those with all that overcooked rice and dhal. I was eating protein tablets and vitamins and I was still rather frail at the end of it. I think this is another thing that should be studied in relation to TM and health as it's apparently very common. In general Indians have kapha constitutions and westerners pitta. They both tend to get the same imbalance: vata. Massive rounding and cheap veggie diets on those course make people more vata. Vata imbalances lead to poor digestion.
[FairfieldLife] What's worse: eating Fido or eating Elsie?
Discuss amongst yourselves: http://tinyurl.com/6plnzl
[FairfieldLife] Cow Farts Being Studied for Global Warming
In more important news of the day: *http://tinyurl.com/6pzntt *
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iranian Missle Tests/Un-nerving Israel'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: And I agree with you. What's is up with Iran going I dare you unless some bigger global player is urging them to do so. The Iran posturing is sheer back-against-the- wall hubris and bluff IMO. And fear. It's the *same* posturing that Saddam Hussein was making when *he* knew that he was toast, too, and that it was all over for him. I find it fascinating that no one seems to be pointing out (much less noticing) that this is just the Same Old Routine being run on the American people again. Who's no one? You mean the mainstream media? This has come up all the time in alternative media like AAR (Thom Hartmann) and NovaM (Mike Malloy) and InfoWars (Alex Jones). And even local mainstream around here: KGO (Gene Burns). And? So what? If the majority of American sheeple believe what they see in the mainstream media, that is what they are going to believe. The bad guys have WMDs, and they could possibly use them against Israel. Time for war. And war there will probably be. NOT because of WMDs, NOT because of Israel, but because Iran is sitting on top of the world's third largest reserves of oil. Iraq was sitting on top of the world's fourth largest reserves of oil. Now the U.S. and Britain own them, and occupy that country. Soon the same will be true of Iran. This isn't about Israel; it's about a country that is so out of control that it reserves the right to just *take* what it wants and needs from other countries that have it. Maybe it isn't so much the country but the same evil souls who seem to reincarnate and run the countries down through time like Rome, Germany, etc. No, it's the country. *Whoever* the ringleaders were, *America* let them get away with Iraq, and they're going to let them get away with Iran, the way things are looking. If no one STOPS the powers that be from doing this stuff, they are ALLOWING it to happen, and are JUST as guilty and bear JUST as much of the karma as the people who think it up, IMO. The strategy is clear. Allow the prices of oil to skyrocket in the U.S., to the point where the people are hurting. Then start a trumped-up war against Iran, and then artificially lower the oil prices for a while after it's a done deal. Voila. The U.S. people will have just allowed another country to be taken over in the name of them being able to drive their gas-guzzlers. Yup, it's been evident all along. Just as it was with Iraq. Even WWII was fought over oil (as was WWI). Americans. The New Germans. Correction: Amerikan Sheeple, the New Germans. I stand on my original statement, as explained above. There are always a buncha liberals who claim, *WE* didn't do this...Bush and his cronies did. Bullshit. If the American people *as a whole* allowed Bush to remain in office and do this stuff in their name, then the American people as a whole *allowed it to happen*. AMERICA -- and the American people -- allowed an unnecessary war to be fought against Iraq, and the whole world knows it. And the whole world has very little hope that the American people will do anything to prevent the NEXT war, against Iran. They're all talk, talk, talk, and blame, blame, blame, and they never fuckin' DO anything.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hugo wrote: My experience on a year long course was that my digestion died. This is very common in the TMO and extremely unpleasant, esp- cially for someone like me who likes a bit of a scoff. Yet it isn't talked about, in fact talk about it being something to do with the programme is actively put down. I never heard a convincing explanation from ayurveda other than that it's like when you clean a pot, first time you scrub it dirt comes off and after that it starts to get better. I think that implies it's part of the unstressing process. Whatever, it aint pleasant and I've seen eighteen year olds from MMY schools having to eat ginger pickle to get their digestion going. It seemed to me that after just sitting in silence for 9 hours a day my metabolism had slowed to the point where it couldn't get going enough to digest something. It must have a negative effect on your bodies ability to process nutrients not that you get much of those with all that overcooked rice and dhal. I was eating protein tablets and vitamins and I was still rather frail at the end of it. I think this is another thing that should be studied in relation to TM and health as it's apparently very common. In general Indians have kapha constitutions and westerners pitta. They both tend to get the same imbalance: vata. Massive rounding and cheap veggie diets on those course make people more vata. Vata imbalances lead to poor digestion. I know not a lot about Ayurveda - but vata is the principle of movement is it not? That would be extinguished by rounding I would have thought. Wouldn't rounding be expected to increase kapha? (and I am sure I heard/read somewhere that westerners tended primarily towards vata?)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cow Farts Being Studied for Global Warming
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In more important news of the day: *http://tinyurl.com/6pzntt * Yes - little know fact of the day - C02 is not by any means the primary greenhouse gas. The politicized theory of AGW (anthropocentric global warming warming i.e. caused by us brutes) actually doesn't get off the ground without supporting speculations/dodgy computer modelling about positive feedbacks. Methane (cow human farts and other stuff in no particular order) is way more powerful than CO2. And the ONE that rules them all is water vapour. A widespread adoption of a veggie diet may result in less cow farts - but would it be made up for in human farts? Do we need a peer-reviewed paper?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cow Farts Being Studied for Global Warming
Note to Bhairitu: This is a double-header...not only is the headline hilarious, so is the photo...no reason not to share both with the FFL public... Cow farts collected in plastic tank for global warming study [A cow stands in her pen at the National Institute of Agricultural Technology in Castelar, near Buenos Aires. Argentine scientists are taking a novel approach to studying global warming, strapping plastic tanks to the backs of cows to collect methane] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/07/09/eacow\ 109.xml
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cow Farts Being Studied for Global Warming
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: In more important news of the day: *http://tinyurl.com/6pzntt * Yes - little know fact of the day - C02 is not by any means the primary greenhouse gas. The politicized theory of AGW (anthropocentric global warming warming i.e. caused by us brutes) actually doesn't get off the ground without supporting speculations/dodgy computer modelling about positive feedbacks. Methane (cow human farts and other stuff in no particular order) is way more powerful than CO2. And the ONE that rules them all is water vapour. A widespread adoption of a veggie diet may result in less cow farts - but would it be made up for in human farts? Do we need a peer- reviewed paper? I voluteer to start collecting farts for science. But I insist that the collection bag be color-coordinated with my shoes.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
I bought the large and expensive Lord Krisna's Cuisine and did not like it. This is perhaps unfair of me to say as I only tried one recipe -- the semolina halva, one of my favourite dishes -- and it did NOT turn out like the wonderful halva I get at the temple. It's like reading a Puritan cookbook. They are totally untrustworthy concerning anything of the senses. No Indian eats that way. The micro-cuisines of India are a wonderland as long at the hand stirring the pot doesn't view this life as maya to be endured rather than the culinary party that it is. And since I am on a food rant I'll add that fresh ginger pickles rock! The movement didn't invent them, but that is how I learned about them. Another fresh pickle that rocks is fresh turmeric root pickle made the same way. My Gujarati friend turned me on to them. Goes great with sacred cow too. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo richardhughes103@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: Now you're sounding like Prabhupada of ISKCON. That's cool, I go to the Hare Krishna restaurant every time I'm in London. Excellent tucker, and they chant at the food when they're cooking it. You don't get service like that at MacDonalds! In Berkely, California the ISKCON folks offer the food for free as part of their proselytizing efforts. The chant is a vedic method to turn the food into prasada, or as an offering to Krishna. Thus, eating this food becomes wholesome, or divine. I go to the local temple here on Sunday nights when they have their feasts...and they're also free. At the risk of sounding like a mood-maker, I must say that I have consistent transcending experiences eating their food and, yes, I attribute that to the chanting they do over the food they prepare, the offering of it to Krishna, and the fact that monks prepare it. No mood-making there, I get this too. Not very time but enough to make me wonder. Perhaps the music they play helps? I think it's a clear sign they must have something profound to offer. I agree. They don't play music at the temple I frequent, at least not while the food is served and eaten. First time I had this kind of blissful trip at a Krishan place it really felt like it started in my stomach like the sort of thing MMY talked happening about when digestion is perfect. Thing is I never go that when at a TM place and I stick to the ayurvedic diet rather closely because it seems to do me a lot of good in other ways. Another element: in addition to being vegetarian, there do not use garlic, onion, mushrooms, or eggs which I think applies to TMO kitchens these days too, no? That's exactly the stuff that you have to drop, whcih came as a shock because it's all most veggies eat. But it's worth it for how it makes you feel. Garlic and onions are very aggravating if you can drop them for a while you might feel a lot more settled inside, that's what I found anyway. But here's what I find interesting: this temple's kitchen doesn't buy organic. Nor do they consciously adhere to ayurvedic principles (I asked). The one in London isn't organic either, I don't know if it's a cost issue but they're confident their system is good enough. Certainly tasty enough, and all their profits go towards handing out food to the homeless which is cool. I thought about joining them once because the food is good, is that the right sort of reason to commit to a different religion I wonder? Well, I never had the fantasy of joining them but I did have the fantasy of becoming filthy rich and being in the position of being able to hire those very same cooks to make my meals three times a day, seven days a week... You think big, I like it. But if you did that
[FairfieldLife] Utopia Park lady needs help
FW: Dear SEVA friends, We are looking for 3-4 people to help a lady in Utopia Park who is disabled, nearly blind, and doing poorly right now. This is 15 minutes a day just for the next 3 weeks. What she needs is someone to collect her mail from the Utopia Park mailboxes every day and bring it to her. That takes about 15 minutes. She needs this for the next 3 weeks (until she gets approval for assistance through an existing program.) Please let me know if you can help and if so which day(s) you can do this. Even one day a week would be a giant help. If you know someone in or near Utopia Park that you can also recruit, that would be greatly appreciated plus most economical. Thank you everyone. love and blessings, coralie brook In case you are wondering why getting mail matters so much, this woman is housebound, has very few friends and no family here in Fairfield. Her world has shrunk to the things in her trailer, the news and information she hears on NPR, audio tapes from services for the blind, and the Netflix movies she can hardly see that have become her substitute for social contact.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
Richard M wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hugo wrote: My experience on a year long course was that my digestion died. This is very common in the TMO and extremely unpleasant, esp- cially for someone like me who likes a bit of a scoff. Yet it isn't talked about, in fact talk about it being something to do with the programme is actively put down. I never heard a convincing explanation from ayurveda other than that it's like when you clean a pot, first time you scrub it dirt comes off and after that it starts to get better. I think that implies it's part of the unstressing process. Whatever, it aint pleasant and I've seen eighteen year olds from MMY schools having to eat ginger pickle to get their digestion going. It seemed to me that after just sitting in silence for 9 hours a day my metabolism had slowed to the point where it couldn't get going enough to digest something. It must have a negative effect on your bodies ability to process nutrients not that you get much of those with all that overcooked rice and dhal. I was eating protein tablets and vitamins and I was still rather frail at the end of it. I think this is another thing that should be studied in relation to TM and health as it's apparently very common. In general Indians have kapha constitutions and westerners pitta. They both tend to get the same imbalance: vata. Massive rounding and cheap veggie diets on those course make people more vata. Vata imbalances lead to poor digestion. I know not a lot about Ayurveda - but vata is the principle of movement is it not? That would be extinguished by rounding I would have thought. Wouldn't rounding be expected to increase kapha? (and I am sure I heard/read somewhere that westerners tended primarily towards vata?) Maybe body wise kapha but the mind due to the increased meditation would become more vata. Certainly there were folks on TTC including myself that gained weight but in general the course I was on wasn't austere as far as food with though we had more than our share of cauliflower. We did have eggs available every morning, fish or chicken twice a week and usually tuna available on guru day at the buffet. People when they have vata imbalances can put on weight too because they will be trying to ground out and their body is trying to slow them down by eating more. If they are vegetarian they might wind up eating more carbs which are usually fine for vata types because carbs are calming but can put weight on otherwise. If a kapha type wants to diet usually a low carb diet works fine and is specified in ayurveda because kapha types have problems with carbs (obviously the opposite of vata types.). You probably read about vata imbalances. You have your constitutional type (prakriti) and your functioning type (vakriti) which is the imbalance. You adjust for the latter and the former is used as a guide to see what can go out of balance or as some practitioners say when in balance you may function more like your constitutional type. Remember that vata is air/ether and relates to increased prana. Kapha is increased ojas (earth/water) and Pitta increase tejas (fire). It gets complicated and thats why I recommend folks take a workshop or two on ayurveda rather than just seeing a practitioner every now and then. You can learn to watch for your own imbalances and adjust for them. Practitioners will tell you that some folks with balance their doshas in just a few days and others might take months if not years. A good practitioner will help you watch out for yourself or even recommend a workshop.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cow Farts Being Studied for Global Warming
Richard M wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In more important news of the day: *http://tinyurl.com/6pzntt * Yes - little know fact of the day - C02 is not by any means the primary greenhouse gas. The politicized theory of AGW (anthropocentric global warming warming i.e. caused by us brutes) actually doesn't get off the ground without supporting speculations/dodgy computer modelling about positive feedbacks. Methane (cow human farts and other stuff in no particular order) is way more powerful than CO2. And the ONE that rules them all is water vapour. A widespread adoption of a veggie diet may result in less cow farts - but would it be made up for in human farts? Do we need a peer-reviewed paper? You definitely have a point there. :D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iranian Missle Tests/Un-nerving Israel'
TurquoiseB wrote: And? So what? If the majority of American sheeple believe what they see in the mainstream media, that is what they are going to believe. That's why they're sheeple. They watch that crap and American Idol too. No, it's the country. *Whoever* the ringleaders were, *America* let them get away with Iraq, and they're going to let them get away with Iran, the way things are looking. If no one STOPS the powers that be from doing this stuff, they are ALLOWING it to happen, and are JUST as guilty and bear JUST as much of the karma as the people who think it up, IMO. And how do you propose to stop them? I mean I can put my senator's and congressman's phone numbers on my cellphone and speed dial them every ten minutes but it seems to do no good. Feinstein needs to be booted out the senate because she does not represent the interests of her constituents apparently only the wealthy ones, Boxer does fine and we need more like her in the Senate. George Miller voted against FISA but we are having a tough time getting him to support impeachment. He fails to see connection between impeaching Bush and Cheney and ending the war. Now let's see what is the issue of the hour I need to call them about.. I stand on my original statement, as explained above. There are always a buncha liberals who claim, *WE* didn't do this...Bush and his cronies did. Yup, we probably should have burned down the country when the Supremes gave Bush the white house. That would have solved the problem. Bullshit. If the American people *as a whole* allowed Bush to remain in office and do this stuff in their name, then the American people as a whole *allowed it to happen*. AMERICA -- and the American people -- allowed an unnecessary war to be fought against Iraq, and the whole world knows it. And the whole world has very little hope that the American people will do anything to prevent the NEXT war, against Iran. They're all talk, talk, talk, and blame, blame, blame, and they never fuckin' DO anything. Okay, again exactly what are we supposed to do? Spain and France also sent troops to Iraq. What about that? Don't forget we put Democrats in power in 2006 and then they turn tables on us. Maybe a violent revolution would be the cure? Now what is that black van doing that just pulled up outside..
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: There seems to be no strong correlation between breathing during meditation and signs of anxiety. Nowadays when I sit to meditate, my breathing usually almost instantaneously slows down, and sometimes seems almost to stop altogether. That happened also just a moment ago during my morning meditation, but I was quite surprised that simultaneously the palms of my hands became all sweaty. That hasn't happened for quite a while now. Wassup? Unstressing? :D If you masturbate, this will usually release the tension. A few years ago I was shooting a movie in Vancouver. It was really stressful and on the weekend I got a massage at the hotel. Penn Jelette (of Penn and Teller) was there and we go to talking. He insisted that massage, meditation, and so forth were terrible ways to deal with stress. His preferred stress reliever was a BJ.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_reply@ wrote: Check out the ad that pops up when you rollover meals or restaurants in the first paragraph of this Hare Krishna link: http://www.vegetarian-restaurants.net/OtherInfo/HK-Temples-USA.htm http://www.vegetarian-restaurants.net/OtherInfo/HK-Temples- USA.htm I didn't get any ads, maybe it goes through a different server. But there's a list of all Krisna places, you seem well catered for over there but there's only two in the UK. Here's my local one: http://www.iskcon-london.org/govindas-london.html They do *the* best desserts. Hmmm, getting hungry already... The ads are for Carls Jr. with an offer of big juicy hamburgers for a buck off -- they're prolly not in the UK, so the ads don't show there? I used to eat regularly at the Los Angeles temple back in the 80s, definitely the best HK food I've had -- at Xmas, they would actually put gold foil in the food, a very sattvic/ojas touch. Also used to eat a lot at the Honolulu restaurant run by the temple there, very refreshing food.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bomb Iran?
Israel is a democracy and much of the blood, sweat and tears of the horrendous karma, of WWII, Has left the Jewish people: strong, prepared for anything. R.G. * Except for the next Holocaust, which could be avoided by the Zionists giving up their pilfered land (or do you really believe that God gave them the land?) and moving someplace where they don't need to be engaged in perpetual slaughter to live.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Cow Farts Being Studied for Global Warming
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: In more important news of the day: *http://tinyurl.com/6pzntt * Yes - little know fact of the day - C02 is not by any means the primary greenhouse gas. The politicized theory of AGW (anthropocentric global warming warming i.e. caused by us brutes) actually doesn't get off the ground without supporting speculations/dodgy computer modelling about positive feedbacks. Methane (cow human farts and other stuff in no particular order) is way more powerful than CO2. And the ONE that rules them all is water vapour. A widespread adoption of a veggie diet may result in less cow farts - but would it be made up for in human farts? Do we need a peer- reviewed paper? A special parliamentary committee should be convened.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bob_brigante wrote: *** For that 10 months of TM before I quit eating meat, I certainly did feel that I was transcending -- it was only when my awareness had grown to a certain level that I could no longer tolerate the dulling effect of eating meat (I had quit alcohol and cigarettes, effortlessly, simply because they were no longer fun to do, in the same week about two months earlier). There's no requirement to change any habits to do TM because regular practitioners will make any changes that need to be made in order to evolve, without any effort or feeling that one is shortchanging one's desires in order to get on the evolution train. Of course, if one is doing a useless meditation technique, or the couch-potato technique, diet does not cause discomfort because dullness doesn't mind things that pile on more dullness. And what are useless meditation techniques, Bob? *** Only transcending is useful in breaking the grip of the limitations imposed by mind on the life of an individual. Practicing meditation techniques that only make the mind more dull and do not lead to transcendence is a choice that some people make since authentic Vedic meditation was lost for a while, but that's soon going to be yesterday's news. India is a mess because many people practice these useless meditation techniques (or quit meditating because of lack of results), but it will become clear to everybody there and elsewhere that TM means a restoration of the correct practice of transcendence, and things will change rapidly when that knowledge does become commonplace. MMY did point out that he was not counting on large numbers of people learning TM because of the chaos in the atmosphere of the Kali Yuga -- rather, the pundits need to purify the atmosphere first, and this is what will enable the restoration of Vedic civilization and Sat Yuga.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
bob_brigante wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And what are useless meditation techniques, Bob? *** Only transcending is useful in breaking the grip of the limitations imposed by mind on the life of an individual. Practicing meditation techniques that only make the mind more dull and do not lead to transcendence is a choice that some people make since authentic Vedic meditation was lost for a while, but that's soon going to be yesterday's news. India is a mess because many people practice these useless meditation techniques (or quit meditating because of lack of results), but it will become clear to everybody there and elsewhere that TM means a restoration of the correct practice of transcendence, and things will change rapidly when that knowledge does become commonplace. MMY did point out that he was not counting on large numbers of people learning TM because of the chaos in the atmosphere of the Kali Yuga -- rather, the pundits need to purify the atmosphere first, and this is what will enable the restoration of Vedic civilization and Sat Yuga. Bullshit Brigante! You're a brainwashed Mashybot if you believe shit like that. There are lots of meditation techniques that provide the experience what MMY termed transcendence. Don't buy the bull that the TMO marketing cooked up. You're not supposed to eat bull anyway (though beef cattle aren't the same things as Nandi).Some meditation techniques including the one practice now are so powerful they can cut through any dullness whether it be created by food, pollution and other problems. And being that powerful they must be handled with care and supervision.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bomb Iran?
Bob wrote: Except for the next Holocaust, which could be avoided by the Zionists giving up their pilfered land (or do you really believe that God gave them the land?) You need to stop the Jew baiting, Bob, the Arab Bible tells the Arab Muslims the same thing about God giving them the same land, that's why the Arabs want to kill all the Jews and take over Jerusalem - the Arab Muslims think their God gave them the land. The newly-created United Nations approved the UN Partition Plan (United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181) on November 29, 1947, dividing the country into two states, one Arab and one Jewish. Jerusalem was to be designated an international city a corpus separatum administered by the UN to avoid conflict over its status. The Jewish community accepted the plan, but the Arab League and Arab Higher Committee rejected it. Israel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel and moving someplace where they don't need to be engaged in perpetual slaughter to live. Maybe they could move back to Russia, Germany or Spain, Bob. Beginning in the twelfth century, Catholic persecution of Jews led to a steady stream leaving Europe to settle in the Holy Land, increasing in numbers after Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492. During the 16th century large communities struck roots in the Four Holy Cities, and in the second half of the 18th century, entire Hasidic communities from eastern Europe settled in the Holy Land. Israel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel
[FairfieldLife] I'm a Mashybot...are YOU a Mashybot, too?
Cool term, Bhairitu. Did you come up with it? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bob_brigante wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: And what are useless meditation techniques, Bob? *** Only transcending is useful in breaking the grip of the limitations imposed by mind on the life of an individual. Practicing meditation techniques that only make the mind more dull and do not lead to transcendence is a choice that some people make since authentic Vedic meditation was lost for a while, but that's soon going to be yesterday's news. India is a mess because many people practice these useless meditation techniques (or quit meditating because of lack of results), but it will become clear to everybody there and elsewhere that TM means a restoration of the correct practice of transcendence, and things will change rapidly when that knowledge does become commonplace. MMY did point out that he was not counting on large numbers of people learning TM because of the chaos in the atmosphere of the Kali Yuga -- rather, the pundits need to purify the atmosphere first, and this is what will enable the restoration of Vedic civilization and Sat Yuga. Bullshit Brigante! You're a brainwashed Mashybot if you believe shit like that. There are lots of meditation techniques that provide the experience what MMY termed transcendence. Don't buy the bull that the TMO marketing cooked up. You're not supposed to eat bull anyway (though beef cattle aren't the same things as Nandi).Some meditation techniques including the one practice now are so powerful they can cut through any dullness whether it be created by food, pollution and other problems. And being that powerful they must be handled with care and supervision.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What's worse: eating Fido or eating Elsie?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Discuss amongst yourselves: http://tinyurl.com/6plnzl *** Dog meat off the menu during Beijing Olympics BEIJING (AP) -- Canine cuisine is being sent to the doghouse during next month's Beijing Olympic Games. Dog meat has been struck from the menus of officially designated Olympic restaurants, and Beijing tourism officials are telling other outlets to discourage consumers from ordering dishes made from dogs, the official Xinhua News Agency reported Friday. Waiters and waitresses should patiently suggest other options to diners who order dog, it said, quoting city tourism bureau Vice Director Xiong Yumei. Dog, known in Chinese as xiangrou, or fragrant meat, is eaten by some Chinese for its purported health-giving qualities. Beijing isn't the first Olympic host to slap a ban on the dish. South Korea banned dog meat during the 1988 Seoul Olympics by invoking a law prohibiting the sale of foods deemed unsightly. After the Olympics, the ban was not strictly enforced. Dog meat is also eaten in some other Asian countries, including Vietnam, the Philippines and Laos. © 2008 The Associated Press.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iranian Missle Tests/Un-nerving Israel'
TurquoiseB wrote: They're all talk, talk, talk, and blame, blame, blame, and they never fuckin' DO anything. Bhairitu wrote: Okay, again exactly what are we supposed to do? Oh, shut up, you two liberal whiners; one of you doesn't even vote or pay any taxes, the other one watches TV all the time. Neither one of you ever served in the military. You're both just poor brainwashed cultists without any smarts who never did anything for your country except complain. Bush Doctrine: (1) rejection of moral relativism and commitment to fostering the spread of democracy in the Middle East. (2) treating terrorism proactively, on a global basis, and not as law enforcement issue. (3) willingness to engage in preemptive attacks against terrorists and terrorist supporting states. (4) unwillingness to support a Palestinian state until Palestinian leaders engage in a sustained fight against terrorists and dismantle their infrastructure. Source: 'The Bush doctrine's fourth pillar' Posted by Paul Mirengoff Powerline, June 23, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/3lu8p5
[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a Mashybot...are YOU a Mashybot, too?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool term, Bhairitu. Did you come up with it? I aM a shy Bot...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: There seems to be no strong correlation between breathing during meditation and signs of anxiety. Nowadays when I sit to meditate, my breathing usually almost instantaneously slows down, and sometimes seems almost to stop altogether. That happened also just a moment ago during my morning meditation, but I was quite surprised that simultaneously the palms of my hands became all sweaty. That hasn't happened for quite a while now. Wassup? Unstressing? :D If you masturbate, this will usually release the tension. You are a retarded little turd Shemp. You are an ugly little fat bald man with preverse habits. I have pictures of you. Shall I post them? OffWorld Yes! Please do...we can all use a laugh. And, by the way, what do you have against masturbation? Nothing. It was just such a fucking cliche and boring reponse that you made - so fucking predictable and tedious - that only a retard could have made it. Perhaps your disdain for it explains the psychosis you demonstrate in each and every post you make here. Now you are just projecting. [From The Last Temptation of Christ] Judas (to Jesus):See? This is what happens when a man doesn't get married. The semen backs up into his brain. Jesus was gay, Judas was a transvetite. What's your point? OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: There seems to be no strong correlation between breathing during meditation and signs of anxiety. Nowadays when I sit to meditate, my breathing usually almost instantaneously slows down, and sometimes seems almost to stop altogether. That happened also just a moment ago during my morning meditation, but I was quite surprised that simultaneously the palms of my hands became all sweaty. That hasn't happened for quite a while now. Wassup? Unstressing? :D If you masturbate, this will usually release the tension. A few years ago I was shooting a movie in Vancouver. It was really stressful and on the weekend I got a massage at the hotel. Penn Jelette (of Penn and Teller) was there and we go to talking. He insisted that massage, meditation, and so forth were terrible ways to deal with stress. His preferred stress reliever was a BJ. A BJ sandwich is better. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
Bhairitu wrote: Some meditation techniques including the one practice now are so powerful So, how many people are practicing these really powerful techniques? You and four or five other people? And, if so, why hasn't there been any peace in the world, if they are so powerful? they can cut through any dullness whether it be created by food, pollution and other problems. But can it stop the salmonella? Salmonella, the bacteria that has sickened more than 1,000 Americans who ate tainted produce since April, has also been found in Thai basil grown in Mexico. Read more: 'Salmonella Found in Basil Grown in Mexico' By Catherine Larkin Bloomberg News, July 11, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/6rh77z And being that powerful they must be handled with care and supervision. With a powerful technique like that, you would expect an 'ME' to take effect and change the world in a matter of a few hours! There are lots of meditation techniques that provide the experience what MMY termed transcendence. If so, then they are TM and therefore really powerful. So, what's your point?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: There seems to be no strong correlation between breathing during meditation and signs of anxiety. Nowadays when I sit to meditate, my breathing usually almost instantaneously slows down, and sometimes seems almost to stop altogether. That happened also just a moment ago during my morning meditation, but I was quite surprised that simultaneously the palms of my hands became all sweaty. That hasn't happened for quite a while now. Wassup? Unstressing? :D If you masturbate, this will usually release the tension. You are a retarded little turd Shemp. You are an ugly little fat bald man with preverse habits. I have pictures of you. Shall I post them? OffWorld Yes! Please do...we can all use a laugh. And, by the way, what do you have against masturbation? Nothing. It was just such a fucking cliche and boring reponse that you made - so fucking predictable and tedious - that only a retard could have made it. Perhaps your disdain for it explains the psychosis you demonstrate in each and every post you make here. Now you are just projecting. [From The Last Temptation of Christ] Judas (to Jesus):See? This is what happens when a man doesn't get married. The semen backs up into his brain. Jesus was gay, Judas was a transvetite. What's your point? OffWorld Where's the photos of me that you promised everybody?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Stu buttsplicer@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: There seems to be no strong correlation between breathing during meditation and signs of anxiety. Nowadays when I sit to meditate, my breathing usually almost instantaneously slows down, and sometimes seems almost to stop altogether. That happened also just a moment ago during my morning meditation, but I was quite surprised that simultaneously the palms of my hands became all sweaty. That hasn't happened for quite a while now. Wassup? Unstressing? :D If you masturbate, this will usually release the tension. A few years ago I was shooting a movie in Vancouver. It was really stressful and on the weekend I got a massage at the hotel. Penn Jelette (of Penn and Teller) was there and we go to talking. He insisted that massage, meditation, and so forth were terrible ways to deal with stress. His preferred stress reliever was a BJ. A BJ sandwich is better. OffWorld What's a BJ sandwich? OffWorld in between two, big, sweaty men both having a go at your nasty bits with their pie holes?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
On Jul 11, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Bhairitu wrote: There are lots of meditation techniques that provide the experience what MMY termed transcendence. Don't buy the bull that the TMO marketing cooked up. I think that's impossible or next to impossible for most TM teachers, as they were essentially trained in repetition and spiritual marketing. Once you've accepted that indoctrination, it's really difficult to let go of--most esp. in the absence of any external reality testing (e.g. legitimate mediation acharyas).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: A BJ sandwich is better. OffWorld What's a BJ sandwich? OffWorld in between two, big, sweaty men both having a go at your nasty bits with their pie holes? Shemp, for responding with exactly what I was thinking, I hereby award you with an honorary Doctorate of Gayology.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iranian Missle Tests/Un-nerving Israel'
Boy you sure made that clear. Btw if they would be unattached, why then do they never leave the place? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sgrayatlarge wrote: So bad enough to warrant being wiped off the planet Tantric? What did you have in mind, because apparently you are obsessed with bad karma. And still afraid to call out the Ayatollah, that's brave for you to continue your anti-Jewish rants. It's not an anti-Jewish rant. It's an anti-fundamentalist rant. Get that straight. I'm not anti-Jewish at all. You'll find many Jews holding the same opinion. Hey ever been to India? Yup. Tell Ramana or his followers that the Arunachala is just dirt pal? They would be non-attached. :D
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iranian Missle Tests/Un-nerving Israel'
Richard J. Williams wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: They're all talk, talk, talk, and blame, blame, blame, and they never fuckin' DO anything. Bhairitu wrote: Okay, again exactly what are we supposed to do? Oh, shut up, you two liberal whiners; one of you doesn't even vote or pay any taxes, the other one watches TV all the time. Neither one of you ever served in the military. You're both just poor brainwashed cultists without any smarts who never did anything for your country except complain. Bush Doctrine: (1) rejection of moral relativism and commitment to fostering the spread of democracy in the Middle East. He's sure done a great job of that! Great joke, Willy. (2) treating terrorism proactively, on a global basis, and not as law enforcement issue. Who are the terrorists? They seem to be anyone who disagrees with him. (3) willingness to engage in preemptive attacks against terrorists and terrorist supporting states. Risking global war. Very foolish. (4) unwillingness to support a Palestinian state until Palestinian leaders engage in a sustained fight against terrorists and dismantle their infrastructure. Again, who are the terrorists? Source: 'The Bush doctrine's fourth pillar' Posted by Paul Mirengoff Powerline, June 23, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/3lu8p5 Right week shit sheet. How 'bout Mein Kampf while you're at it? Must be one of your favorite books.
Re: [FairfieldLife] I'm a Mashybot...are YOU a Mashybot, too?
Watching a YouTube video recently interviewing some Fairfield folks and noting how they were parroting the same old phrases from TM and unable to put their experiences in their own words. They seemed like robots and hence the term Marshybots. shempmcgurk wrote: Cool term, Bhairitu. Did you come up with it?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
Vaj wrote: On Jul 11, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Bhairitu wrote: There are lots of meditation techniques that provide the experience what MMY termed transcendence. Don't buy the bull that the TMO marketing cooked up. I think that's impossible or next to impossible for most TM teachers, as they were essentially trained in repetition and spiritual marketing. Once you've accepted that indoctrination, it's really difficult to let go of--most esp. in the absence of any external reality testing (e.g. legitimate mediation acharyas). i.e. Marshybots. ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
Richard J. Williams wrote: Bhairitu wrote: Some meditation techniques including the one practice now are so powerful So, how many people are practicing these really powerful techniques? You and four or five other people? And, if so, why hasn't there been any peace in the world, if they are so powerful? Thousands. Meditation can't produce peace in the world that is unless everyone meditates but then looking at FFL that may not be true either. :D they can cut through any dullness whether it be created by food, pollution and other problems. But can it stop the salmonella? Salmonella, the bacteria that has sickened more than 1,000 Americans who ate tainted produce since April, has also been found in Thai basil grown in Mexico. Read more: 'Salmonella Found in Basil Grown in Mexico' By Catherine Larkin Bloomberg News, July 11, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/6rh77z It can cure ignorance. How many times have you had salmonella? How many times have you been ignorant? And being that powerful they must be handled with care and supervision. With a powerful technique like that, you would expect an 'ME' to take effect and change the world in a matter of a few hours! There is no 'ME.' There are lots of meditation techniques that provide the experience what MMY termed transcendence. If so, then they are TM and therefore really powerful. So, what's your point? Don't play with words Willy, they'll burn your hands.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
Stu wrote: A few years ago I was shooting a movie in Vancouver. It was really stressful and on the weekend I got a massage at the hotel. Penn Jelette (of Penn and Teller) was there and we go to talking. He insisted that massage, meditation, and so forth were terrible ways to deal with stress. His preferred stress reliever was a BJ. All you have to do is watch Penn's show on Showtime and you know he is full of Bullshit!!!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
What's a BJ sandwich? OffWorld in between two, big, sweaty men both having a go at your nasty bits with their pie holes? Shemp, for responding with exactly what I was thinking, I hereby award you with an honorary Doctorate of Gayology. ** Sorry, he flunked the oral exam for the dissertation: http://bjsandwich.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
On Jul 11, 2008, at 7:44 PM, Bhairitu wrote: Vaj wrote: On Jul 11, 2008, at 5:25 PM, Bhairitu wrote: There are lots of meditation techniques that provide the experience what MMY termed transcendence. Don't buy the bull that the TMO marketing cooked up. I think that's impossible or next to impossible for most TM teachers, as they were essentially trained in repetition and spiritual marketing. Once you've accepted that indoctrination, it's really difficult to let go of--most esp. in the absence of any external reality testing (e.g. legitimate mediation acharyas). i.e. Marshybots. ;-) Add that one to Rick's list of abbreviations and TM-isms!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: A BJ sandwich is better. OffWorld What's a BJ sandwich? OffWorld in between two, big, sweaty men both having a go at your nasty bits with their pie holes? Shemp, for responding with exactly what I was thinking, I hereby award you with an honorary Doctorate of Gayology. On behalf of my penis and I, thank you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
There are lots of meditation techniques that provide the experience what MMY termed transcendence. If so, then they are TM and therefore really powerful. Don't play with words Willy, So, we are agreed that there are lots of meditation techniques that provide the experience that MMY termed transcendence. But there's only One Transcendental. You'd have to be checked by an experienced checker in order to asertain if you actually were transcending and practicing your technique correctly. That's the whole point about TM - you can be checked to see if you're practicing effortlessly and without strain. How are you going to check all those thousands of people practicing all those powerful techniques? It would be difficult for you to check just the people in your own town let alone the entire planet! Any technique that provides the opportunity for transcending is transcendental meditation. It's just that TM is the *ideal* technique. Or, you could take the word of an Indian fakir. You must be careful with these powerful techniques and get checked at least every eighteen months, according to Marshy. Look what happened to Gopi Krishna! they'll burn your hands. Get a grip, Barry, you're the guy playing with the fire sticks, the sacred ash and the punk!
[FairfieldLife] Sal Sunshine and yifuxero posting rights restored
Bhairtu, how about a final post count for the week?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
Vaj wrote: I think that's impossible or next to impossible for most TM teachers, as they were essentially trained in repetition and spiritual marketing. Well, d'oh! That's what the TMO was designed to do: Market TM to the masses and train more TM teachers. Once you've accepted that indoctrination, it's really difficult to let go of--most esp. in the absence of any external reality testing (e.g. legitimate mediation acharyas). Meditation acharyas? Like I'm going to quit my marketing job and fly over to India to ask a fakir if I'm doing a good job of meditating? I mean, I'd be willing to go listen to a lecture by Anthony Robbins, or listen to a lecture by Wayne Liguorman, if it was in my town or close by, but I draw the line at spending six months sitting on my ass at the feet of some snake charmer with deep pockets. I'd rather give my hard earned money to a counselor like Dr. Pete than waste any more money on meditation 'acharyas'. Oh, I get it - you mean 'meditation acharyas' like yourself, and the two Barrys! Here's an FYI for you, Vaj: I'm already living at the center of the universe right next door to a master meditation acharya, and I can see him every week-end if I wanted to. But I'm soloing auditing right now - I've got my very own portable zone of tranquility. I don't need any yogis or nath siddhas telling me what to do anymore.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Stu buttsplicer@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: There seems to be no strong correlation between breathing during meditation and signs of anxiety. Nowadays when I sit to meditate, my breathing usually almost instantaneously slows down, and sometimes seems almost to stop altogether. That happened also just a moment ago during my morning meditation, but I was quite surprised that simultaneously the palms of my hands became all sweaty. That hasn't happened for quite a while now. Wassup? Unstressing? :D If you masturbate, this will usually release the tension. A few years ago I was shooting a movie in Vancouver. It was really stressful and on the weekend I got a massage at the hotel. Penn Jelette (of Penn and Teller) was there and we go to talking. He insisted that massage, meditation, and so forth were terrible ways to deal with stress. His preferred stress reliever was a BJ. A BJ sandwich is better. OffWorld What's a BJ sandwich? OffWorld in between two, big, sweaty men both having a go at your nasty bits with their pie holes? Wow, how embarrassing for everyone on FFL. Everyone knows that when Shemp evokes such images he betrays his own desires. Well, no worries Shemp...as long as you are all consenting adults, you go for it, if that is what you like - as you obviously do. However, redneck retard neocons such as yourself won't allow you to have your disgusting perverse lifestyle. Too bad. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] pics of MMY other Gurus
half way down on this blog: http://princesamwise.gaia.com/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_reply@ wrote: A BJ sandwich is better. OffWorld What's a BJ sandwich? OffWorld in between two, big, sweaty men both having a go at your nasty bits with their pie holes? Shemp, for responding with exactly what I was thinking, I hereby award you with an honorary Doctorate of Gayology. Yea, Gay is fine in the world of free Americans. But to Shemp -- as a draft-dodging, warmongering, Zionist, Gay, living in in the prairies of Canada, it is just another characteristic of a long line of things he sees as deficient ,that he longs to kill himself for. Please stop encouraging him in this direction. He may be wormvomit, but even wormshit should be accepted by the truly enlightened here (even though Amaji herself has to swallow deeply, and hide her convulsions to let him be in the same room.) OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Dharana leads to Dhyana which leads to Samadhi.
In TM, Dharana is the effortless repetition of the mantra, this effortless focus of the mind on the mantra leads to a state of Dhyana or meditation which is an increased awareness of pure consciousness from the quieting of the mind (or stilling of the Vrittis, subconscious whirlpools or what MMY calls stress) brought about by Dharana, this increased awareness of the subtle ambiance of consciousness, peace or bliss consciousness leads finally to absorption into this state of bliss consciousness (Ananda) and is the final step or Samadhi, which is the culmination of meditation/Dhyana as the mantra drops off the meditator finds himself as consciousness itself! Sat Chit Anandam. Hence TM qualifies for Patanjali's criterion of Chitta, Vritti, Nirodha or the cessation (nirodha) of the whirlpools (vrittis) in the mind (chitta) leading to Samadhi which is the means AND the goal of Yoga; much like the reflection of the moon in a rippled lake can only give a distorted reflection, so too, our minds are so caught in the grip of earthly attachments we are unable to free ourselves until we achieve...*transcendental deep meditation* (the original name given to TM). The same profound statement is in the Bible as, Be still and know that I am GodPsalm 46:10
[FairfieldLife] Chaudhary's Guru ratings.
at http://www.tinyurl.com/6ksox4 On Jesus Christ, he says Long dead, killed by hierarchy, but benefit of doubt. Others: 1.0 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi M b1917 aka Mahesh Prasad Varma TM Maharishi FEEDBACK (includes pro and con) AntiSympathetic Bio Founder of Maharishi Thousand-Headed Purusha Transcendental Meditation® discovered the Constitution of the Universe Yogic Flying to create supreme mind-body coordination in the individual and coherence in world consciousness Absolute Theories of Government, Education, Health, and Defense to raise every area of life to perfection. Guru was Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math. Anti link is an ex-TM-teacher, talk of hypnosis, adverse reactions. Tripletalk, enormous money, but benefit of doubt. 1.5 Deepak Chopra M b1948ish Deepak Chopra QUOTE Indian renaissance man endocrinologist, Ayurvedic medicine, physics, advaita, master of all trades. Praised by President Clinton and Time Magazine. Site is dedicated to mass marketing, all things to all people: Ask Deepak, Spiritual Law of the Day, Recipe of the Week, Creating Affluence, Ayurvedic Jam, etc. Still, good guy, engaging speaker.
