[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I don't know you and haven't talked or seen you, but that can also result from improper breathing technique. Do you breath through your mouth? If so, try breathing only through your nose. You also might try some simple breathing exercises. For example, one that works for some people is to slowly inhale through your nose over a count of five, making sure you are belly breathing. Hold the breath for a count of five, then slowly exhale through the mouth during a count of five. Do this for five minutes a couple times a day. If it is difficult, you can do the slow breathing two or three time, intersperse two or three regular breaths, and the go back to the slow breathing. Continue for five minutes. Not medical advise, just something to try to see how it works. Thanks, I might try that. I recently noticed that doing fast alteranate nostril pranayama (my take of it) gives a nice, light feeling in my head. I'm not absolutely sure, though, how exactly it should be done. I've only seen some TM-teachers do it, not been instructed how to do it.
[FairfieldLife] 'Obama Alert'
Please forward all emails received in regard to cause rumors on The Presidency of Barack Obama to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] R. G.
[FairfieldLife] 'Obama Seeks Speech at 'Unity's Gate'
Barack Obama is seeking to make a speech on 'Unity'... At the Brandenberg gate in Germany, the symbolic: Gate of Unity... And once again, the forces of divisiveness, lurk in the backround, To thwart the speech at the site... R.G.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chaudhary's Guru ratings.
These guru ratings are a bit silly. Other than sharing your personal experience with particular guru it means nothing. Passing judgment on someone that functions as a guru to someone else is an exercise in projection for the most part. And also, before you're totally cooked by your guru, you'll judge him/her by waking state need gratification. Poor criteria to judge a guru by! --- On Fri, 7/11/08, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Chaudhary's Guru ratings. To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 11:45 PM at http://www.tinyurl.com/6ksox4 On Jesus Christ, he says Long dead, killed by hierarchy, but benefit of doubt. Others: 1.0 Maharishi Mahesh Yogi M b1917 aka Mahesh Prasad Varma TM – Maharishi FEEDBACK (includes pro and con) AntiSympathetic Bio Founder of Maharishi Thousand-Headed Purusha… Transcendental Meditation®… discovered the Constitution of the Universe… Yogic Flying to create supreme mind-body coordination in the individual and coherence in world consciousness… Absolute Theories of Government, Education, Health, and Defense to raise every area of life to perfection. Guru was Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math. Anti link is an ex-TM-teacher, talk of hypnosis, adverse reactions. Tripletalk, enormous money, but benefit of doubt. 1.5 Deepak Chopra M b1948ish Deepak Chopra QUOTE Indian renaissance man – endocrinologist, Ayurvedic medicine, physics, advaita, master of all trades. Praised by President Clinton and Time Magazine. Site is dedicated to mass marketing, all things to all people: Ask Deepak, Spiritual Law of the Day, Recipe of the Week, Creating Affluence, Ayurvedic Jam, etc. Still, good guy, engaging speaker. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Something transcendental....
... in this pic? http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=132841
Re: [FairfieldLife] pics of MMY other Gurus
Interesting collection of gurus and gurus. But this says more about me than the poster's ability to find Divine inspiration and direction from his/her gurus. A devotee of the Divine is inspired by all of creation. --- On Fri, 7/11/08, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] pics of MMY other Gurus To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 11:35 PM half way down on this blog: http://princesamwise.gaia.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] TM Hubris
Is this true? half way down on this blog: http://princesamwise.gaia.com/ TM) is the most practised self-development program in the world. Even nearly true? Is this bit of TM-PR beome part of the TM cult-mythology?
[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a Mashybot...are YOU a Mashybot, too?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Watching a YouTube video recently interviewing some Fairfield folks and noting how they were parroting the same old phrases from TM and unable to put their experiences in their own words. They seemed like robots and hence the term Marshybots. Obviously, since Maharishi is the first Master to thourougly give an explanation and a description of what transcendence and meditation is to a wider audiance. What did you expect those Fairfielders to do, re- event the wheel ? My take is that MMY will be parroted for hundreds of years simply because His models are simple to understand and profound.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The karma of eating our mothers
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are lots of meditation techniques that provide the experience what MMY termed transcendence. If so, then they are TM and therefore really powerful. Don't play with words Willy, So, we are agreed that there are lots of meditation techniques that provide the experience that MMY termed transcendence. But there's only One Transcendental. You'd have to be checked by an experienced checker in order to asertain if you actually were transcending and practicing your technique correctly. Maharishi is the only Master, through Brahmandanda Saraswathi, that has given a methology to describe and correct effortless meditation. The Turk, Vaj and the rest of the dreamers and New Agers are lost in phraseology and will most probably not get out of that mud in this lifetime.
[FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: half way down on this blog: http://princesamwise.gaia.com/ What an utter fool to put Maharishi, Ananda Mayi Ma, Yogananda and Sai Baba on the same page as students, con-men and New Age-dreamers like Osho, Ravi Shankar and Bob Marley ! Then again this fellow is an american living in California so what else to expect...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana leads to Dhyana which leads to Samadhi.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In TM, Dharana is the effortless repetition of the mantra, this effortless focus of the mind on the mantra leads to a state of Dhyana or meditation which is an increased awareness of pure consciousness from the quieting of the mind (or stilling of the Vrittis, subconscious whirlpools or what MMY calls stress) brought about by Dharana, this increased awareness of the subtle ambiance of consciousness, peace or bliss consciousness leads finally to absorption into this state of bliss consciousness (Ananda) and is the final step or Samadhi, which is the culmination of meditation/Dhyana as the mantra drops off the meditator finds himself as consciousness itself! Sat Chit Anandam. Hence TM qualifies for Patanjali's criterion of Chitta, Vritti, Nirodha or the cessation (nirodha) of the whirlpools (vrittis) in the mind (chitta) leading to Samadhi which is the means AND the goal of Yoga; much like the reflection of the moon in a rippled lake can only give a distorted reflection, so too, our minds are so caught in the grip of earthly attachments we are unable to free ourselves until we achieve...*transcendental deep meditation* (the original name given to TM). The same profound statement is in the Bible as, Be still and know that I am GodPsalm 46:10 We know this Billy, in fact thousands have known and practised this for 30 - 40 years. But it is nice that you remind those that have long forgotton these simple facts. Thanks !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, I might try that. I recently noticed that doing fast alteranate nostril pranayama (my take of it) gives a nice, light feeling in my head. I'm not absolutely sure, though, how exactly it should be done. I've only seen some TM-teachers do it, not been instructed how to do it. The fast pranayam you are reffering to is given prior to TM-Sidhi courses after a Puja only. Do not dabble without Initiation. The slow version you already know is safe for all meditators due to universal blessings made by Maharishi and can be done 5 - 15 minutes prior to TM. Enjoy !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana leads to Dhyana which leads to Samadhi.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: In TM, Dharana is the effortless repetition of the mantra, this effortless focus of the mind on the mantra leads to a state of Dhyana or meditation which is an increased awareness of pure consciousness from the quieting of the mind (or stilling of the Vrittis, subconscious whirlpools or what MMY calls stress) brought about by Dharana, this increased awareness of the subtle ambiance of consciousness, peace or bliss consciousness leads finally to absorption into this state of bliss consciousness (Ananda) and is the final step or Samadhi, which is the culmination of meditation/Dhyana as the mantra drops off the meditator finds himself as consciousness itself! Sat Chit Anandam. Hence TM qualifies for Patanjali's criterion of Chitta, Vritti, Nirodha or the cessation (nirodha) of the whirlpools (vrittis) in the mind (chitta) leading to Samadhi which is the means AND the goal of Yoga; much like the reflection of the moon in a rippled lake can only give a distorted reflection, so too, our minds are so caught in the grip of earthly attachments we are unable to free ourselves until we achieve...*transcendental deep meditation* (the original name given to TM). The same profound statement is in the Bible as, Be still and know that I am GodPsalm 46:10 We know this Billy, in fact thousands have known and practised this for 30 - 40 years. But it is nice that you remind those that have long forgotton these simple facts. Thanks ! I thought as much, but like you said it's good to be reminded and also there are always some new to TM and the group who may not have heard it. I don't mean to preach to the seasoned meditators on this group only to broach pertinent principles worth discussing...Thanks!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: Well, I don't know you and haven't talked or seen you, but that can also result from improper breathing technique. Do you breath through your mouth? If so, try breathing only through your nose. You also might try some simple breathing exercises. For example, one that works for some people is to slowly inhale through your nose over a count of five, making sure you are belly breathing. Hold the breath for a count of five, then slowly exhale through the mouth during a count of five. Do this for five minutes a couple times a day. If it is difficult, you can do the slow breathing two or three time, intersperse two or three regular breaths, and the go back to the slow breathing. Continue for five minutes. Not medical advise, just something to try to see how it works. Thanks, I might try that. I recently noticed that doing fast alteranate nostril pranayama (my take of it) gives a nice, light feeling in my head. I'm not absolutely sure, though, how exactly it should be done. I've only seen some TM-teachers do it, not been instructed how to do it. It is easy to hyperventilate doing the fast pranayama. That is the light feeling in the head.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
The fast pranayam you are reffering to is given prior to TM-Sidhi courses after a Puja only. Another way would be for Card to get a ouiji board and speak directly to one of the zombie Gurus who died but did not die-die. After you get the OKAY-DOKAY from them and they give you the magical connection with the lineage of dead (but not dead-dead) guys, you can breath quickly while playing with your nose. Please send an international money order with your course fee to your national center. (the dead guys do NOT take personal checks!) This way you can gain the magical permission necessary to play with your own nose on your own face for half a minute. Any unauthorized nose picking is forbidden. I hope that helps Card. Please run any other unauthorized practices through this board for your own good. (because some people here know magical stuff and you don't) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Thanks, I might try that. I recently noticed that doing fast alteranate nostril pranayama (my take of it) gives a nice, light feeling in my head. I'm not absolutely sure, though, how exactly it should be done. I've only seen some TM-teachers do it, not been instructed how to do it. The fast pranayam you are reffering to is given prior to TM-Sidhi courses after a Puja only. Do not dabble without Initiation. The slow version you already know is safe for all meditators due to universal blessings made by Maharishi and can be done 5 - 15 minutes prior to TM. Enjoy !
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana leads to Dhyana which leads to Samadhi.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: In TM, Dharana is the effortless repetition of the mantra, this effortless focus of the mind on the mantra leads to a state of Dhyana or meditation which is an increased awareness of pure consciousness from the quieting of the mind (or stilling of the Vrittis, subconscious whirlpools or what MMY calls stress) brought about by Dharana, this increased awareness of the subtle ambiance of consciousness, peace or bliss consciousness leads finally to absorption into this state of bliss consciousness (Ananda) and is the final step or Samadhi, which is the culmination of meditation/Dhyana as the mantra drops off the meditator finds himself as consciousness itself! Sat Chit Anandam. Hence TM qualifies for Patanjali's criterion of Chitta, Vritti, Nirodha or the cessation (nirodha) of the whirlpools (vrittis) in the mind (chitta) leading to Samadhi which is the means AND the goal of Yoga; much like the reflection of the moon in a rippled lake can only give a distorted reflection, so too, our minds are so caught in the grip of earthly attachments we are unable to free ourselves until we achieve...*transcendental deep meditation* (the original name given to TM). The same profound statement is in the Bible as, Be still and know that I am GodPsalm 46:10 We know this Billy, in fact thousands have known and practised this for 30 - 40 years. But it is nice that you remind those that have long forgotton these simple facts. Thanks ! I thought as much, but like you said it's good to be reminded and also there are always some new to TM and the group who may not have heard it. I don't mean to preach to the seasoned meditators on this group only to broach pertinent principles worth discussing...Thanks! The first time I came to the main Assembly Hall in Seelisberg, The Capital of The Age of Enlightenment, there was a huge banner running across and above the stage which in sanskrit read something like Only truth will remain (Cardemaister might fill in the details.) What you said above is a part of that truth. And why fundamentalists from many quarters, particularily organized religions like the Christians and Buddhists have attacked this knowledge as if their most feared scenario is that ordinary folks will understand, adopt and live this theme. As more and more people today are starting to live this Knowledge, which is happening fast, their fear is that their ageold, distorted and useless knowledge and meditations will be abandoned and their Churches and Temples left empty; that their priests and lamas will loose their privileges and worse; that ordinary people, gaining Enlightenment, will see through their rotten systems of religious repression and exploitation. On FFL there is an 365, year after year attack on this wisdom Maharishi and Guru Dev so generously brought as a gift to the world; from desperate fulltimers like Turqouise and Vaj, both Buddhists and self-proclaimed occultists. Your post was timely as you say, because sometimes though infrequent, newcomers might pop in here and read something. It provides a good balance to the vain and fearful Buddhist propaganda of division and doubt and the general hysteria of the current phase-transition brought to FFL during the last 3-4 years.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana leads to Dhyana which leads to Samadhi.
On Jul 12, 2008, at 10:57 AM, BillyG. wrote: I thought as much, but like you said it's good to be reminded and also there are always some new to TM and the group who may not have heard it. I don't mean to preach to the seasoned meditators on this group only to broach pertinent principles worth discussing...Thanks! It's important new TMers are aware this is really just the typical TMO dumbing down of the profound tradition of Patanjali to TM levels. It does not represent the actual tradition of Patanjali, except (maybe) as an introductory example using mantra. It's not unusual in TMO claims to make exaggerated and untrue claims both in their research and in their alleged connection to various traditions. This is just another desperate attempt to make such a connection and to appropriate Patanjali and the yoga-sutras and should be seen as such.
[FairfieldLife] One dead neocon
One dead neocon, about 20 more to go: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080712/ap_on_re_us/obit_snow OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: half way down on this blog: http://princesamwise.gaia.com/ What an utter fool to put Maharishi, Ananda Mayi Ma, Yogananda and Sai Baba on the same page as students, con-men and New Age-dreamers like Osho, Ravi Shankar and Bob Marley ! I agreee, Nablussos. That's why Girish, too, to use your logic and your standard, is an utter fool to put Maharishi on the same level as himself: http://tinyurl.com/6ou9fu http://tinyurl.com/6ou9fu [http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/groups/g_3920196/328a/__sr_/b1c6.jpg?grglSeIBO\ _d_F11m] Then again this fellow is an american living in California so what else to expect...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
--- On Sat, 7/12/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 10:27 AM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: half way down on this blog: http://princesamwise.gaia.com/ What an utter fool to put Maharishi, Ananda Mayi Ma, Yogananda and Sai Baba on the same page as students, con-men and New Age-dreamers like Osho, Ravi Shankar and Bob Marley ! Then again this fellow is an american living in California so what else to expect... Ha! I'd divide the group slightly differently than you would, but still maintain the categories. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: half way down on this blog: http://princesamwise.gaia.com/ What an utter fool to put Maharishi, Ananda Mayi Ma, Yogananda and Sai Baba on the same page as students, con-men and New Age-dreamers like Osho, Ravi Shankar and Bob Marley ! I agreee, Nablussos. That's why Girish, too, to use your logic and your standard, is an utter fool to put Maharishi on the same level as himself: http://tinyurl.com/6ou9fu http://tinyurl.com/6ou9fu [http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/groups/g_3920196/328a/__sr_/b1c6.jpg? grglSeIBO\ _d_F11m] Shemp, please; if you want to dabble with Photoshop then at least do it convincing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: half way down on this blog: http://princesamwise.gaia.com/ What an utter fool to put Maharishi, Ananda Mayi Ma, Yogananda and Sai Baba on the same page as students, con-men and New Age-dreamers like Osho, Ravi Shankar and Bob Marley ! I agreee, Nablussos. That's why Girish, too, to use your logic and your standard, is an utter fool to put Maharishi on the same level as himself: http://tinyurl.com/6ou9fu http://tinyurl.com/6ou9fu [http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/groups/g_3920196/328a/__sr_/b1c6.jpg? grglSeIBO\ _d_F11m] Shemp, please; if you want to dabble with Photoshop then at least do it convincing. Why do you do such obvious amateurish Photoshop tricks ?
[FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero yifuxero@ wrote: half way down on this blog: http://princesamwise.gaia.com/ What an utter fool to put Maharishi, Ananda Mayi Ma, Yogananda and Sai Baba on the same page as students, con-men and New Age-dreamers like Osho, Ravi Shankar and Bob Marley ! I agreee, Nablussos. That's why Girish, too, to use your logic and your standard, is an utter fool to put Maharishi on the same level as himself: http://tinyurl.com/6ou9fu http://tinyurl.com/6ou9fu [http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/groups/g_3920196/328a/__sr_/b1c6.jpg? grglSeIBO\ _d_F11m] Shemp, please; if you want to dabble with Photoshop then at least do it convincing. Stupid cultist. Can't you read at the bottom left who submitted the photo? It was Rick Archer, not me. And if anyone dabbled with Photoshop, it was Rick Archer, not me. Rick: did you doctor that photo of Girish with him and his photo of Maharishi side by side on the wall behind him? And another thing: in the TM center I learned at in the '70s they had a rule that you didn't hang the guru's picture up...you put it on a ledge so that it leaned against the wall. Girish has got it hanging up. Anyone else heard of that one?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana leads to Dhyana which leads to Samadhi.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first time I came to the main Assembly Hall in Seelisberg, The Capital of The Age of Enlightenment, there was a huge banner running across and above the stage which in sanskrit read something like Only truth will remain (Cardemaister might fill in the details.) What you said above is a part of that truth. And why fundamentalists from many quarters, particularily organized religions like the Christians and Buddhists have attacked this knowledge as if their most feared scenario is that ordinary folks will understand, adopt and live this theme. As more and more people today are starting to live this Knowledge, which is happening fast, their fear is that their ageold, distorted and useless knowledge and meditations will be abandoned and their Churches and Temples left empty; that their priests and lamas will loose their privileges and worse; that ordinary people, gaining Enlightenment, will see through their rotten systems of religious repression and exploitation. On FFL there is an 365, year after year attack on this wisdom Maharishi and Guru Dev so generously brought as a gift to the world; from desperate fulltimers like Turqouise and Vaj, both Buddhists and self-proclaimed occultists. Your post was timely as you say, because sometimes though infrequent, newcomers might pop in here and read something. It provides a good balance to the vain and fearful Buddhist propaganda of division and doubt and the general hysteria of the current phase-transition brought to FFL during the last 3-4 years. Read below and see how some of these Sant's so called Saints operate: THE KIRPAL STATISTIC Using Inner Visions to Your Social Advantage The Indian Background Index Excerpt from: EXPOSING CULTS: When the Skeptical Mind Confronts the Mystical. (More chapters of 'Exposing Cults' online here.) Author: David Christopher Lane Publisher: Garland Publishing, Inc. New York and London. Publication date: August 1994. It turns out that almost everybody has the inherent ability to see inner light and hear inner sound. Moreover, almost everybody has the capacity to have an out-of-body experience and behold wondrous inner visions. You don't need to go to an Indian guru to have such experiences indeed, you don't need to go anywhere at all. But that's not what Kirpal Singh and his successors told their vast following. Instead, unsuspecting seekers(who number in the thousands) were taught to believe that it was the guru himself, not the disciple, who was orchestrating the elevation of the soul into higher regions. But Kirpal and crew were not being completely forthcoming about the mechanism which governs access to such amazing sights and sounds. That mechanism is the brain and that three pounds of glorious tissue is the lot of all humans. In the early 1980s when I was teaching religious studies at a Catholic high school, I tried several meditation experiments with my students which convinced me that Kirpal Singh and other gurus like him were taking undue credit for their disciples' inner experiences. In my trial mediation sessions, I informed my students beforehand about the possibility of seeing inner lights and hearing inner sounds. Naturally, given the boring routine of secondary education, my students were intrigued. I informed them that I knew of an ancient yoga technique that would facilitate their inner voyages. I turned the lights off, instructed them briefly about closing their eyes gently and looking for sparks of light at the proverbial third eye. I told them that I would touch some students on the forehead lightly with my fingers. They meditated for some five minutes. I then proceeded to ask them about their experiences. [Kirpal Singh invariably did such a process directly after his initiation ceremonies; he also kept a running tally of how many saw stars and so on-something which I have called the 'Kirpal Statistic'.] To my amazement, since I felt that Kirpal Singh and others were actually transmitting spiritual power, the majority of my students reported seeing light. A few students even claimed to have visions of personages in the middle of the light. Others reported hearing subtle sounds and the like. I repeated the experiment on four other classes that day. I have also in the past ten years conducted the same experiment on my college students (both undergraduate and graduate). The result, though differing in terms of absolute numbers, is remarkably the same. The majority see and hear something. It doesn't take a neuropsychologist or a sociologist trained in statistics to realize that Kirpal Singh and others were simply tapping into an already built reservoir of meditational possibilities. What was unique about Kirpal's approach, at least in comparison with other Radhasoami gurus, was that he claimed to be the responsible agent, the medium through which such inner experiences can
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana leads to Dhyana which leads to Samadhi.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2008, at 10:57 AM, BillyG. wrote: I thought as much, but like you said it's good to be reminded and also there are always some new to TM and the group who may not have heard it. I don't mean to preach to the seasoned meditators on this group only to broach pertinent principles worth discussing...Thanks! It's important new TMers are aware this is really just the typical TMO dumbing down of the profound tradition of Patanjali to TM levels. It does not represent the actual tradition of Patanjali, except (maybe) as an introductory example using mantra. It's not unusual in TMO claims to make exaggerated and untrue claims both in their research and in their alleged connection to various traditions. This is just another desperate attempt to make such a connection and to appropriate Patanjali and the yoga-sutras and should be seen as such. Vaj-This was a correlation I myself made, you'd be hard pressed to find this in any TM literature or lectures. In fact, I've started a NEW branch of the TMorg and it is going to be called the *Esoteric Branch*, all the things MMY wanted to tell you be couldn't or wouldn't~ :-)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a Mashybot...are YOU a Mashybot, too?
nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Watching a YouTube video recently interviewing some Fairfield folks and noting how they were parroting the same old phrases from TM and unable to put their experiences in their own words. They seemed like robots and hence the term Marshybots. Obviously, since Maharishi is the first Master to thourougly give an explanation and a description of what transcendence and meditation is to a wider audiance. What did you expect those Fairfielders to do, re- event the wheel ? My take is that MMY will be parroted for hundreds of years simply because His models are simple to understand and profound. And they sound like robots. When I was on my TTC the course leaders pounded into everyone not to sound like that. I was the first person to pass the intro lecture section. One of the leaders asked how I got it to such an advanced state and I told him it was because I had public speaking classes when I was in school. I made an outline of what was to be covered and spoke in my own words and unrobotically when using TM terms. This first master stuff you mention is debatable.
[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a Mashybot...are YOU a Mashybot, too?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Watching a YouTube video recently interviewing some Fairfield folks and noting how they were parroting the same old phrases from TM and unable to put their experiences in their own words. They seemed like robots and hence the term Marshybots. Obviously, since Maharishi is the first Master to thourougly give an explanation and a description of what transcendence and meditation is to a wider audiance. What did you expect those Fairfielders to do, re- event the wheel ? My take is that MMY will be parroted for hundreds of years simply because His models are simple to understand and profound. And they sound like robots. When I was on my TTC the course leaders pounded into everyone not to sound like that. I was the first person to pass the intro lecture section. One of the leaders asked how I got it to such an advanced state and I told him it was because I had public speaking classes when I was in school. I made an outline of what was to be covered and spoke in my own words and unrobotically when using TM terms. This first master stuff you mention is debatable. I've had to do alot of selling throughout my business career. Often, you'll be given a script to use...which is very useful because it will contain key words and explanations and sequence that is important to explaining the product or service to the client. But the big priviso is always given that if you don't put it into your own words, you're sunk. This is the fault of 99% of telemarketers (of course, there are alot less of them since the advent of the donotcalllist): they all sound like robots. BUT every now and then you get one who actually knows what they are doing and don't sound like rote and, yes, it is a relief to speak with them and hear them even if they're selling shit.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:04 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus That's why Girish, too, to use your logic and your standard, is an utter fool to put Maharishi on the same level as himself: http://tinyurl.com/6ou9fu http://tinyurl.com/6ou9fu [http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/groups/g_3920196/328a/__sr_/b1c6.jpg? grglSeIBO\ _d_F11m] Shemp, please; if you want to dabble with Photoshop then at least do it convincing. He didn't dabble with Photoshop. That's a genuine photo and has been up for a long time.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:33 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus Rick: did you doctor that photo of Girish with him and his photo of Maharishi side by side on the wall behind him? Didn't touch it. As I recall, the photo was posted by the Russian guys who are in the photo with Girish, and are proud to be there.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana leads to Dhyana which leads to Samadhi.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jul 12, 2008, at 10:57 AM, BillyG. wrote: I thought as much, but like you said it's good to be reminded and also there are always some new to TM and the group who may not have heard it. I don't mean to preach to the seasoned meditators on this group only to broach pertinent principles worth discussing...Thanks! It's important new TMers are aware this is really just the typical TMO dumbing down of the profound tradition of Patanjali to TM levels. It does not represent the actual tradition of Patanjali, except (maybe) as an introductory example using mantra. It's not unusual in TMO claims to make exaggerated and untrue claims both in their research and in their alleged connection to various traditions. This is just another desperate attempt to make such a connection and to appropriate Patanjali and the yoga-sutras and should be seen as such. Vaj-This was a correlation I myself made, you'd be hard pressed to find this in any TM literature or lectures. In fact, I've started a NEW branch of the TMorg and it is going to be called the *Esoteric Branch*, all the things MMY wanted to tell you be couldn't or wouldn't~ :-) At least with that interpretation...there are a few paragraphs about it in the Gita appendix, but that is all!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a Mashybot...are YOU a Mashybot, too?
shempmcgurk wrote: I've had to do alot of selling throughout my business career. Often, you'll be given a script to use...which is very useful because it will contain key words and explanations and sequence that is important to explaining the product or service to the client. But the big priviso is always given that if you don't put it into your own words, you're sunk. This is the fault of 99% of telemarketers (of course, there are alot less of them since the advent of the donotcalllist): they all sound like robots. BUT every now and then you get one who actually knows what they are doing and don't sound like rote and, yes, it is a relief to speak with them and hear them even if they're selling shit. Tell me about it. I've just had to go through that a bit with the ATT Broadband support people. They weren't too bad but they had me doing things that weren't necessary. It was fairly obvious from the diagnostics that the modem-router was working okay but their network was down. Finally one of the technicians checked and indeed there was an outage in the Bay Area. You'd think that would be the first thing they'd check. In fact there was a recorded message when I first called about a problem but that was for the XP upgrade breaking Zone Alarm not the outage.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Adi Shankara
You'd have to be checked by an experienced checker in order to asertain if you actually were transcending and practicing your technique correctly. nab wrote: Maharishi is the only Master, through Brahmandanda Saraswathi, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati came from the tradition of the Adi Shankaracharya, the most illustrious tradition in all of Mother India. The Adi Shankara was a desciple of the great line of acharyas beginning with Gaudapadacharya. All the Shankaracharya Swamis worship in the Sri Vidya tradition of Adwaita Vedanta. The Saraswati swamis are headquarterd at Sringeri, one of the four original maths establshed by the Adi Shankara. Swami Brahmananda Saraswati's teacher was Swami Krishananda of Sringeri. Adi Shankara established transcendental meditation as the 'consciousness only' school of Yoga. The Adi Shankara wrote various commentaries to explain the correct practice. From what I've read, the Adi Shankara went to the Himalayas and installed a yantra at the temple at Badri. On the yantra the Adi Shankara inscribed the TM bija mantras. Then the Adi Shankara established the Jyotirmath and composed the 'Anandalahari' for our understanding. While at Jyotir the Adi Shankara also composed commentaries on all the major 'Upanishads', the 'Vedanta Sutras' of Babarayana, as well as the the the 'Saundaryalahari'. The Adi Shankara also composed a vartika on the Commentary on 'Yoga Sutras' by Vyasa. that has given a methology to describe and correct effortless meditation. Establishing the checking proccedure was one of the smartest things the Marshy ever did. That way, anyone can get checked by a certified Meditation Guide to make sure that they are practicing correctly the effortless way. You can't transcend using concentration or mind control. If you don't understand the mechanics of consciousness you probably need to get checked. Marshy reccomends getting checked every eighteen months, and it's free for life. The Turk, Vaj and the rest of the dreamers and New Agers are lost in phraseology and will most probably not get out of that mud in this lifetime. Anyone can make TMO status claims. But, it's just obvious that TM is the best and the fastest technique on the entire planet. TM simply provides the *ideal* opportunity for transcending. That's why they called it the 'Royal Yoga' in India.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iranian Missle Tests/Un-nerving Israel'
Bush Doctrine: (1) rejection of moral relativism and commitment to fostering the spread of democracy in the Middle East. bhairitu wrote: He's sure done a great job of that! There are two democracies in the Middle East now, instead of just one. Now there are Israel and Iraq under a United Nations mandate. Afghanistan is under NATO administration. I guess the president of Pakistan got the message. Apparently Libya is no longer a nuclear threat. I guess Gaddafi got the message when the U.S. sent that cruise missle at his house. And I guess Assad got the message when the Israelis blew up his clandestine nuclear plant in Syria. It's been over five years since a successful terrorist attack on U.S. soil. The head of the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has said al-Qaeda is essentially defeated in Iraq and Saudi Arabia, and on the defensive elsewhere. Read more: 'Al-Qaeda in retreat' Friday, 30 May 2008 http://tinyurl.com/6xgva5 (2) treating terrorism proactively, on a global basis, and not as law enforcement issue. Who are the terrorists? So, you don't have all the answers. They seem to be anyone who disagrees with him. The majority of your congressional leaders agree with the Bush doctrine, that's why they voted to give the president authority to use force in the Middle East. Obama says he will do anything to keep Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. Iran is under U.N. sanctions. (3) willingness to engage in preemptive attacks against terrorists and terrorist supporting states. Risking global war. Very foolish. Foolish to carry out United Nations mandates? (4) unwillingness to support a Palestinian state until Palestinian leaders engage in a sustained fight against terrorists and dismantle their infrastructure. Again, who are the terrorists? Your enemies? On Sunday, an explosives-laden car rammed a flatbed truck packed with Shiite pilgrims, killing 32 people in the mostly Shiite neighborhood of Karradah. The day before, 20 people died in a car bombing about 300 yards from a joint U.S.-Iraqi security station in Sadr City, stronghold of the Mahdi Army of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. Full story: 'U.S. troops to root out car-bomb shops' By Robert H. Reid Associated Press, March 12, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/5ky55e
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sweaty hands and breathing?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fast pranayam you are reffering to is given prior to TM-Sidhi courses after a Puja only. Another way would be for Card to get a ouiji board and speak directly to one of the zombie Gurus who died but did not die-die. After you get the OKAY-DOKAY from them and they give you the magical connection with the lineage of dead (but not dead-dead) guys, you can breath quickly while playing with your nose. Please send an international money order with your course fee to your national center. (the dead guys do NOT take personal checks!) This way you can gain the magical permission necessary to play with your own nose on your own face for half a minute. Any unauthorized nose picking is forbidden. LOL! :D I hope that helps Card. Please run any other unauthorized practices through this board for your own good. (because some people here know magical stuff and you don't) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: Thanks, I might try that. I recently noticed that doing fast alteranate nostril pranayama (my take of it) gives a nice, light feeling in my head. I'm not absolutely sure, though, how exactly it should be done. I've only seen some TM-teachers do it, not been instructed how to do it. The fast pranayam you are reffering to is given prior to TM-Sidhi courses after a Puja only. Do not dabble without Initiation. The slow version you already know is safe for all meditators due to universal blessings made by Maharishi and can be done 5 - 15 minutes prior to TM. Enjoy !
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iranian Missle Tests/Un-nerving Israel'
You've watched too many episode of 24 and way too much mainstream news. Richard J. Williams wrote: There are two democracies in the Middle East now, instead of just one. Now there are Israel and Iraq under a United Nations mandate. Afghanistan is under NATO administration. I guess the president of Pakistan got the message. Apparently Libya is no longer a nuclear threat. I guess Gaddafi got the message when the U.S. sent that cruise missle at his house. And I guess Assad got the message when the Israelis blew up his clandestine nuclear plant in Syria. It's been over five years since a successful terrorist attack on U.S. soil. The head of the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) has said al-Qaeda is essentially defeated in Iraq and Saudi Arabia, and on the defensive elsewhere. Read more: 'Al-Qaeda in retreat' Friday, 30 May 2008 http://tinyurl.com/6xgva5 (2) treating terrorism proactively, on a global basis, and not as law enforcement issue. Who are the terrorists? So, you don't have all the answers. They seem to be anyone who disagrees with him. The majority of your congressional leaders agree with the Bush doctrine, that's why they voted to give the president authority to use force in the Middle East. Obama says he will do anything to keep Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. Iran is under U.N. sanctions. (3) willingness to engage in preemptive attacks against terrorists and terrorist supporting states. Risking global war. Very foolish. Foolish to carry out United Nations mandates? (4) unwillingness to support a Palestinian state until Palestinian leaders engage in a sustained fight against terrorists and dismantle their infrastructure. Again, who are the terrorists? Your enemies? On Sunday, an explosives-laden car rammed a flatbed truck packed with Shiite pilgrims, killing 32 people in the mostly Shiite neighborhood of Karradah. The day before, 20 people died in a car bombing about 300 yards from a joint U.S.-Iraqi security station in Sadr City, stronghold of the Mahdi Army of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. Full story: 'U.S. troops to root out car-bomb shops' By Robert H. Reid Associated Press, March 12, 2007 http://tinyurl.com/5ky55e
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Iranian Missle Tests/Un-nerving Israel'
Bhairitu wrote: You've watched too many episode of 24 and way too much mainstream news. 'Debunking the received wisdom about Iraq war policy-making' Posted by Paul Mirengoff: Powerline May 4, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/5qbf9e
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zoran Krneta Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 3:31 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ There you go Nabby. That's where the photo came from (scroll down). I can't read Russian, or whatever the language is, but I presume that Zoran, who posted this, is one of the fellows in the photos. Still think it was Photoshopped Nabby?
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
-Original Message- From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Archer Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 4:04 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ There you go Nabby. That's where the photo came from (scroll down). I can't read Russian, or whatever the language is, but I presume that Zoran, who posted this, is one of the fellows in the photos. Still think it was Photoshopped Nabby? My mistake. The guys in the photos are Sergey Gotvyanskiy, National Vastu Director and Igor Chepiga, National Coordinator.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
On Jul 12, 2008, at 4:03 PM, Rick Archer wrote: There you go Nabby. That’s where the photo came from (scroll down). I can’t read Russian, or whatever the language is, but I presume that Zoran, who posted this, is one of the fellows in the photos. Still think it was Photoshopped Nabby? Well, I do, even if Nabs doesn't. Somebody obviously Photoshopped the $$ signs out of Girish's eyes, along with the halo above his head. Fess up, Rick. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ha! I'd divide the group slightly differently than you would, but still maintain the categories. Obviously; infinite ways. Whatever floats your boat is good for you. Students : B. Marley, Peter the Shrink, Prince Samwise, Nablusoss1008 Con-men: Osho, Turqoise, Vaj Dreamers: Ravi Shankar, B. Marley, Rick Archer. Famous but unenlightened: Prabhupad and Osho Enlightened without a cause: Jiddu Krishnamurti Inspirators for seekers and introductory Junior Masters: Meher Baba, Ravi Shankar, Sant Kabir The QuestionMarks; fill inn your own answer about Amma Avatars: Ananda Mayi Ma, Ramana Maharshi, Vivekananda, Shankara, Krishna, Sri Premananda, Hermes, Gautama Buddha, Planetary Avatar: Sathya Sai Baba Enlightened Yogis: Sivananda, Muktananda Well known historical Enlightened; Helena Roerich, Rama, The Apostle Peter, The Apostle Paul, Padmasambhava, Bhagavan Nityananda, Sant Kabir, Well known Masters: His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and His Divinity Brahmananda Saraswathi Enlightened Students of the Occult to have a name I know of: 5 friends on Purusha and 1 beloved Sidha of the Age of Enlightenment; Jim Flanegin Enlightened in the world today through the programmes of His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi; about 80 as of July 2008, and quickly rising.
[FairfieldLife] Why Obama won't win
TV producers understand the psychology of the American public: A former advertising copywriter, he sees Law and Order as a brand. He tells his writers that the series should be like Campbell's Soup: many different flavors, all of which are of consistent quality and predictable taste. Episodic television is the triumph of the familiar, he is known to say. One way Mr. Wolf maintains this consistency is by making most of the victims wealthy white people, which he believes viewers are more interested in watching. He limits the number of shows containing minority victims, including blacks and Muslims, to four or five episodes a season out of 22 to 24. http://tinyurl.com/6euqlh http://tinyurl.com/6euqlh
[FairfieldLife] Great Floods in South Asia
2008-07-12
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Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
Hari bol, Does anyone have information about any major floods, legends or history, that may have happened in south Asia anywhere from 2400 to 5000 years ago? Perhaps stories of the Ganges or other major rivers changing course, moving from their riverbeds to new locations? If so, please indicated probable centuries for these events. *It is possible to return to the source of this manifest universe. Once there, the sadhaka will realize how easy this is to do and how it was always there, always available, simply by relaxing into its ever welcoming enveloping embrace. Return this joy, embrace the universe, live the anundum you were born to be.*
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
Pretty good categories except I'd place Sri Sri Ravi Shankar in a different category than Bob Marley and Rick Archer. For one I don't think SSRS has ever blown reefer. --- On Sat, 7/12/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 5:29 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ha! I'd divide the group slightly differently than you would, but still maintain the categories. Obviously; infinite ways. Whatever floats your boat is good for you. Students : B. Marley, Peter the Shrink, Prince Samwise, Nablusoss1008 Con-men: Osho, Turqoise, Vaj Dreamers: Ravi Shankar, B. Marley, Rick Archer. Famous but unenlightened: Prabhupad and Osho Enlightened without a cause: Jiddu Krishnamurti Inspirators for seekers and introductory Junior Masters: Meher Baba, Ravi Shankar, Sant Kabir The QuestionMarks; fill inn your own answer about Amma Avatars: Ananda Mayi Ma, Ramana Maharshi, Vivekananda, Shankara, Krishna, Sri Premananda, Hermes, Gautama Buddha, Planetary Avatar: Sathya Sai Baba Enlightened Yogis: Sivananda, Muktananda Well known historical Enlightened; Helena Roerich, Rama, The Apostle Peter, The Apostle Paul, Padmasambhava, Bhagavan Nityananda, Sant Kabir, Well known Masters: His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and His Divinity Brahmananda Saraswathi Enlightened Students of the Occult to have a name I know of: 5 friends on Purusha and 1 beloved Sidha of the Age of Enlightenment; Jim Flanegin Enlightened in the world today through the programmes of His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi; about 80 as of July 2008, and quickly rising. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty good categories except I'd place Sri Sri Ravi Shankar in a different category than Bob Marley and Rick Archer. For one I don't think SSRS has ever blown reefer. Yeah, but they all have facial hair: [http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/groups/g_3920196/4c65/__sr_/d985.jpg?grIvWeIBr\ nFS0H_J] --- On Sat, 7/12/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 5:29 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ Ha! I'd divide the group slightly differently than you would, but still maintain the categories. Obviously; infinite ways. Whatever floats your boat is good for you. Students : B. Marley, Peter the Shrink, Prince Samwise, Nablusoss1008 Con-men: Osho, Turqoise, Vaj Dreamers: Ravi Shankar, B. Marley, Rick Archer. Famous but unenlightened: Prabhupad and Osho Enlightened without a cause: Jiddu Krishnamurti Inspirators for seekers and introductory Junior Masters: Meher Baba, Ravi Shankar, Sant Kabir The QuestionMarks; fill inn your own answer about Amma Avatars: Ananda Mayi Ma, Ramana Maharshi, Vivekananda, Shankara, Krishna, Sri Premananda, Hermes, Gautama Buddha, Planetary Avatar: Sathya Sai Baba Enlightened Yogis: Sivananda, Muktananda Well known historical Enlightened; Helena Roerich, Rama, The Apostle Peter, The Apostle Paul, Padmasambhava, Bhagavan Nityananda, Sant Kabir, Well known Masters: His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and His Divinity Brahmananda Saraswathi Enlightened Students of the Occult to have a name I know of: 5 friends on Purusha and 1 beloved Sidha of the Age of Enlightenment; Jim Flanegin Enlightened in the world today through the programmes of His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi; about 80 as of July 2008, and quickly rising. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
Dang! Which one is Bob Marley? --- On Sat, 7/12/08, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 6:40 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty good categories except I'd place Sri Sri Ravi Shankar in a different category than Bob Marley and Rick Archer. For one I don't think SSRS has ever blown reefer. Yeah, but they all have facial hair: --- On Sat, 7/12/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 5:29 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ Ha! I'd divide the group slightly differently than you would, but still maintain the categories. Obviously; infinite ways. Whatever floats your boat is good for you. Students : B. Marley, Peter the Shrink, Prince Samwise, Nablusoss1008 Con-men: Osho, Turqoise, Vaj Dreamers: Ravi Shankar, B. Marley, Rick Archer. Famous but unenlightened: Prabhupad and Osho Enlightened without a cause: Jiddu Krishnamurti Inspirators for seekers and introductory Junior Masters: Meher Baba, Ravi Shankar, Sant Kabir The QuestionMarks; fill inn your own answer about Amma Avatars: Ananda Mayi Ma, Ramana Maharshi, Vivekananda, Shankara, Krishna, Sri Premananda, Hermes, Gautama Buddha, Planetary Avatar: Sathya Sai Baba Enlightened Yogis: Sivananda, Muktananda Well known historical Enlightened; Helena Roerich, Rama, The Apostle Peter, The Apostle Paul, Padmasambhava, Bhagavan Nityananda, Sant Kabir, Well known Masters: His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and His Divinity Brahmananda Saraswathi Enlightened Students of the Occult to have a name I know of: 5 friends on Purusha and 1 beloved Sidha of the Age of Enlightenment; Jim Flanegin Enlightened in the world today through the programmes of His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi; about 80 as of July 2008, and quickly rising. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dang! Which one is Bob Marley? It would have been alot cuter had the photo of Rick Archer turned out (he's the one on the left). --- On Sat, 7/12/08, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 6:40 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Pretty good categories except I'd place Sri Sri Ravi Shankar in a different category than Bob Marley and Rick Archer. For one I don't think SSRS has ever blown reefer. Yeah, but they all have facial hair: --- On Sat, 7/12/08, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 5:29 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ Ha! I'd divide the group slightly differently than you would, but still maintain the categories. Obviously; infinite ways. Whatever floats your boat is good for you. Students : B. Marley, Peter the Shrink, Prince Samwise, Nablusoss1008 Con-men: Osho, Turqoise, Vaj Dreamers: Ravi Shankar, B. Marley, Rick Archer. Famous but unenlightened: Prabhupad and Osho Enlightened without a cause: Jiddu Krishnamurti Inspirators for seekers and introductory Junior Masters: Meher Baba, Ravi Shankar, Sant Kabir The QuestionMarks; fill inn your own answer about Amma Avatars: Ananda Mayi Ma, Ramana Maharshi, Vivekananda, Shankara, Krishna, Sri Premananda, Hermes, Gautama Buddha, Planetary Avatar: Sathya Sai Baba Enlightened Yogis: Sivananda, Muktananda Well known historical Enlightened; Helena Roerich, Rama, The Apostle Peter, The Apostle Paul, Padmasambhava, Bhagavan Nityananda, Sant Kabir, Well known Masters: His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi and His Divinity Brahmananda Saraswathi Enlightened Students of the Occult to have a name I know of: 5 friends on Purusha and 1 beloved Sidha of the Age of Enlightenment; Jim Flanegin Enlightened in the world today through the programmes of His Holiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi; about 80 as of July 2008, and quickly rising. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [FairfieldLife] Great Floods in South Asia
Well, I was a mentally retarded boy who helped move stone during the building of the great pyramid and I think the Nile flooded two years in a row. But then I fell off a big block and fractured my skull and left the body. --- On Sat, 7/12/08, Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Great Floods in South Asia To: Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 6:10 PM Hari bol, Does anyone have information about any major floods, legends or history, that may have happened in south Asia anywhere from 2400 to 5000 years ago? Perhaps stories of the Ganges or other major rivers changing course, moving from their riverbeds to new locations? If so, please indicated probable centuries for these events. It is possible to return to the source of this manifest universe. Once there, the sadhaka will realize how easy this is to do and how it was always there, always available, simply by relaxing into its ever welcoming enveloping embrace. Return this joy, embrace the universe, live the anundum you were born to be.
[FairfieldLife] Is Hillary's shot at presidential nomination still alive?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ This is where Nabby goes silent. Contronted with irrefutable evidence that he doesn't want to see, he does the ostrich thing. (I haven't looked ahead)
[FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ Ya gotta love those pictures of the crowns to the side of the pundits observing them doing a puja, or yagya, or something. Sorta brings back the flavor of British rule.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
PHOTOSHOP! PHOTOSHOP! PHOTOSHOP! Damn bastards! --- On Sat, 7/12/08, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 7:36 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ This is where Nabby goes silent. Contronted with irrefutable evidence that he doesn't want to see, he does the ostrich thing. (I haven't looked ahead) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
The dog days of summer are upon us as nobody got excited enough to over post last week. Here's today's gab stats: Yahoo Groups Post Counter = Start Date (UTC): Sat Jul 12 00:00:00 2008 End Date (UTC): Sat Jul 19 00:00:00 2008 -- Searching... 64 messages as of (UTC) Sat Jul 12 23:52:33 2008 Member Posts nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9 shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7 Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7 Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]5 BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5 Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED]4 off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3 bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 yifuxero [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]2 lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED]1 curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Zoran Krneta [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-B 1 posters: 20 Saturday Morning 00:00 UTC Rollover Times = Daylight Saving Time (Summer): US Friday evening: PDT 5 PM - MDT 6 PM - CDT 7 PM - EDT 8 PM Europe Saturday: BST 1 AM CEST 2 AM EEST 3 AM Standard Time (Winter): US Friday evening: PST 4 PM - MST 5 PM - CST 6 PM - EST 7 PM Europe Saturday: GMT 12 AM CET 1 AM EET 2 AM For more information on Time Zones: www.worldtimezone.com
Re: [FairfieldLife] Post Count
On Jul 12, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Bhairitu wrote: The dog days of summer are upon us as nobody got excited enough to over post last week. That's because some of the worst offenders were already in the doghouse. Woof! Sal
[FairfieldLife] A great story for Nabby
I stumbled upon this news story about Madonna and couldn't help but think of our very own Nabby. Madonna sounds like a real TBer, just like Nabby. So I got to thinking that if Nabby and Madonna ever got together, they'd have a real cat fight: Nabby culting on TM and Madonna culting on Kabbalah, with both holding their ground. Madonna and Guy will only talk about Kabbalah, says her brother in his revealing book BY CHRISTOPHER CICCONE Last updated at 1:53 AM on 13th July 2008 * [comments] Comments (0) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1034641/Madonna-Guy-talk-K\ abbalah-says-brother-revealing-book.html#comments * [Add to My Stories] Add to My Stories http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1034641/Madonna-Guy-talk-K\ abbalah-says-brother-revealing-book.html It's 2001 and I am waiting for my last payment from Madonna for my work on the Roxbury house - about £5,000. I could really use the money, so when it doesn't arrive I call her assistant Caresse and ask where it is. She stalls. Within moments, she calls back. 'Madonna will make the final payment just as long as you agree to go to Kabbalah. The next meeting is at my house on Wednesday.' I tell her I'll think about it. Scroll down for more [Madonna and Guy] At a Kabbalah meeting, Madonna and Guy sit on either side of the Bergs, who founded the movement That same afternoon, Caresse sends over The Power Of Kabbalah - Technology For The Soul, by Yehuda Berg, an official publication of the Kabbalah Centre International. On the cover, there is a quote from Madonna: 'No hocus-pocus here. Nothing to do with religious dogma. The ideas in this book are earth-shattering and yet so simple.' I read the book and learn about Kabbalah, a mix of Judaism, Buddhism, Catholicism and a bit of old-fashioned common sense thrown in for good measure. It immediately interests me. More... * Madonna and Guy - the singer's brother reveals intimate details of her life http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1034635/Madonna-Guy--singe\ rs-brother-reveals-intimate-details-life.html * Madonna's deepest liaison ... with a lesbian named Ingrid http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1034640/Madonna-8217-s-dee\ pest-liaison---lesbian-named-Ingrid.html I begin to think about spiritual issues I've long stopped pondering and I am curious. I also realise that I've bought into the LA scene far too much and for far too long. Besides, I know that my connection with my sister has weakened and feel that attending Kabbalah may strengthen it once more. The following Wednesday I attend the meeting at Caresse's place - a two-storey colonial brick house, nicely landscaped, on expensive Sunset Plaza. She is only Madonna's assistant. I can hardly pay my rent, but I push all bitterness aside. Inside are Madonna, her real estate broker, her masseuse, her costume designer, her choreographer, two assistants, her acupuncturist and her two dancers. Clearly she's involved everybody in her life with Kabbalah. The edict that you have to belong in order to work for her hasn't yet been formalised, but I suspect it will soon be. I also know that since Kabbalah has become so integral to her existence, she sees less of people who aren't involved in it. We all sit down in a big circle. This meeting - and all that follow - has a particular topic, led by Eitan, our teacher. Then we all discuss it. The meeting lasts a couple of hours. Caresse serves crackers and other snacks. Most of the time I attend meetings at Demi Moore's, Caresse's or Madonna's, and on some Friday nights I go to the LA Kabbalah Center for Shabbat. There, I am not surprised to find that Madonna and Guy are treated as if they are the uncrowned king and queen of Kabbalah. One basic premise of Kabbalah is that no individual is entitled to anything more than he or she has earned. Yet every time I attend Shabbat, Madonna and Guy sit on either side of the Bergs, who founded the modern Kabbalah movement. 'I've been coming here for 15 years, and I've never gotten to sit next to the Bergs,' I hear one woman complaining. Kabbalah teaches the antithesis of envy, yet I can feel the envy rippling through the people there, particularly when Guy, dressed in white robes, is regularly given the honour of carrying the Torah up to the altar. Madonna has given millions of dollars to Kabbalah. I attend a 24-hour Kabbalah session with Madonna, Guy and Caresse in Anaheim, California. This is the first big Kabbalah event I've attended. Held in a hotel conference hall, the session starts at 7.30pm. All the men are instructed to wear white. Madonna and Guy are seated at the top table on the dais, but sit on opposite sides of the table to conform with the rest of the male and female attendees, who, according to tradition, sit on opposite sides of the hall. As the night proceeds, there are readings from the Torah. I follow as best as I can, but have no idea what is really going on. Even in
[FairfieldLife] Kashmir Savism - the world is not an illusion.
(note: KS differs from WillyTex's false Neo-Advaita; which btw has nothing to do with MMY's version of reality per SBAL. The Neo-Advaitins and Advaita Vedantists say the world is an illusion but Kashmir Saivism has the story right: The world is not an illusion but rather the perception of duality is illusion; actually the false perception of duality; i.e. thinking that the rope is a snake). from Wiki: Among the various Hindu philosophies, Kamir aivism is a school of aivism categorized by various scholars as monistic[1] idealism (absolute idealism, theistic monism[2], realistic idealism[3], transcendental physicalism or concrete monism[4]). These descriptors denote a standpoint that Cit - consciousness - is the one reality. Matter is not separated from consciousness, but rather identical to it. There is no gap between God and the world. The world is not an illusion (as in Advaita Vedanta), rather the perception of duality is the illusion. Kashmir Shaivism arose during the eighth[5] or ninth century CE.[6][7] in Kashmir and made significant strides, both philosophical and theological, until the end of the twelfth century CE[8]. Kashmir Shaivism resembles Hindu tantra, and both have as their key symbol the Shri Yantra.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count
I missed you and your merry quips. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 12, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Bhairitu wrote: The dog days of summer are upon us as nobody got excited enough to over post last week. That's because some of the worst offenders were already in the doghouse. Woof! Sal
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharana leads to Dhyana which leads to Samadhi.
On Jul 12, 2008, at 2:59 PM, BillyG. wrote: Vaj-This was a correlation I myself made, you'd be hard pressed to find this in any TM literature or lectures. In fact, I've started a NEW branch of the TMorg and it is going to be called the *Esoteric Branch*, all the things MMY wanted to tell you be couldn't or wouldn't~ :-) Well, actually I've read a recent movement inspired translation of the YS and found a similar attempt. It was nice to see something to inspire people practicing TM, but at the same time it gave me a sinking feeling that someone wasn't telling the truth and a certain group of people will actually believe what they read. Consequently we end up with TMers and Sidha's walking around repeating and believing these stories. It's certainly not fair to them. They'll look like fools.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A great story for Nabby
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I stumbled upon this news story about Madonna and couldn't help but think of our very own Nabby. Madonna sounds like a real TBer, just like Nabby. * Madonna is a twofer, Kabbalah and TM: This remarkable book takes you behind-the-scenes in the extraordinary life of Nancy deHerrera. The loss of her soulmate was the impetus for a lifelong spiritual journey. Nancy served as the right hand person to Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in the sixties and became one of the first U.S. meditation teachers. She shares stories from her days in Rishikesh at the Ashram where she was liasion to John Lennon, George Harrison, Paul McCartney and other stars. Her meditation students included Greta Garbo, heiress Doris Duke, Madonna, Sheryl Crow and thousands of others. http://tinyurl.com/5q58y5 http://tinyurl.com/5q58y5
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of shempmcgurk Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:45 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dang! Which one is Bob Marley? It would have been alot cuter had the photo of Rick Archer turned out (he's the one on the left). Before facial hair: MeInGoodhill.jpg After facial hair: rick_archer.jpg image001.jpgimage002.jpg
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Obama Alert'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do me a favor and forward any and all opposition mailings, lies and fear-mongering propaganda to: watchdog (at) barackobama.com This is a nonsense filtering service of the Obama campaign,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why Obama won't win
(snip) TV producers understand the psychology of the American public: A former advertising copywriter, he sees Law and Order as a brand. He tells his writers that the series should be like Campbell's Soup: (snip) So, therefore, the Mr. Mrs. John Q. American will play it safe and vote for McDonald's as President... I mean McCain, sorry... My observation is the extreme shift of the American consciousness, so that this brand of 'Law and Order' is failing. It's a good metaphore for what is happening. The old 'laws and orders' are not working because they are mostly built on lies, and the old power structure is collapsing fast. There is only one vision for America at this point, which make sense. President Obama is that vision.
