[FairfieldLife] voting with the president 90% of the time

2008-09-27 Thread shempmcgurk
Perhaps someone can explain this to me.

How can one vote with the president on a particular bill?  Other than 
signing a bill or giving it a veto, the president doesn't get to vote 
on a bill...so how does one determine whether one is voting with the 
president on a particular bill?



[FairfieldLife] Re: The Debate

2008-09-27 Thread amarnath
here's my take on this:

McCain basically kept saying
trust me I'm a good guy and will clean up whatever 
and very dependent on militarism to solve world problems
not realizing the problems that militarism creates;
and crony sentimentalism
  and standard Republican policy of welfare for the rich.
I don't trust him for a minute and instead of presenting anything
substantive
he kept being condescending to Obama.

Obama kept his cool and clearly presented
what he would try to accomplish via a wholistic way
using world wide diplomacy to restore America's image,
strong energy independence initiative creating jobs at home,
tax break for 95%
use military  judiciously
  end war in Iraq
open gov funding to public via internet/google

Personally, I feel Barack should have been stronger
in denouncing McCain's  distortions;
I feel Obama was too gentle/polite with him.

I hope in the following debates,
Obama calls him on his perverted hypocritical judgement
in picking Palin.

jai kali ma,
anatol

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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 On Behalf Of BillyG.
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 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Debate



 I would say McCain had Obama up against the ropes at least once and
 Obama was wincing. The difference between Obama and McCain, is the
 difference between a *wannabe* and an *is*, what a difference! Obama
 made a good showing though clearly was the more inexperienced man on
 the stage!

 He clearly looked dejected at the end of the debate, you could see how
 deflated he was, he knew he lost the debate though he had a strong
start!

 All but one of the 6 CNN commentators (Bill Bennett) gave the win to
Obama,
 most by a pretty wide margin.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The Debate

2008-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  (snip)
  
  Of course, and CNN is fair and balanced...ha, ha!
 
 Not sure what 'Fair and Balanced' means, because it is a 
 catch-phrase of Fox news, so it really doesn't mean anything.

Here's what Esquire thought it meant:

http://www.members.aol.com/tantricone/share/FOX.htm





[FairfieldLife] Re: How one lone guy in front of a computer may change the election

2008-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
 Wow.
 
 Billy, Shemp, and Raunchydog all posted the same link!
 
 Great minds think alike...

Wouldn't you need a mind for that?  :-)

Judy would have posted the link, too, had 
she not shot her angry wad in two days. It's 
just the latest incarnation of The Only Thing 
They've Got To Post.

You know the one: This new (Wright/Ayers/
lipstick/whatever...pick one) scandal will 
be the one that brings Obama down. And then
you'll all be hurting and you'll have to 
come crawling to us and admit that we were
RIGHT and you were WRONG. We rule and you
are all REEELLY REEELLY STOOOPID.

In other words, it's Just More Self-Importance
Fantasy on their parts, is *just* as important
as they are, and has as much substance as they
have. Big zero, in all three columns.

Angry people need things to be angry about.
They like videos like this because 1) they 
pander to their fantasies that people on FFL
(or anywhere) are actually taking them
seriously 2) the links give them something to
post, since they can't think up anything on
their own, and 3) cutting and pasting Other
People's Thoughts is the closest they can
come to thought.





[FairfieldLife] Re: How one lone guy in front of a computer may change the election

2008-09-27 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o
 

I like that Knopfler-riff much more played like that,
in...hmmm... Billy Gibbons -style!



[FairfieldLife] Re: How one lone guy in front of a computer may change the election

2008-09-27 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote:
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5tZc8oH--o
  
 
 I like that Knopfler-riff much more played like that,
 in...hmmm... Billy Gibbons -style!


Jimi goes tango!  :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8OeKjiDoYE





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Debate

2008-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  From: BillyG.
  He clearly looked dejected at the end of the debate, you 
  could see how deflated he was, he knew he lost the debate 
  though he had a strong start!
 
 All but one of the 6 CNN commentators (Bill Bennett) gave 
 the win to Obama, most by a pretty wide margin.

As Ruth pointed out yesterday, political debates
merely provide a mechanism whereby those who have
already made up their minds and are locked into a
particular set of beliefs reinforce those beliefs.

Unless one of the debators actually pisses his 
pants and cries on camera, declaring one of them 
the winner has as much meaning as Judy Stein 
declaring herself the winner in all the arguments 
she starts here on FFL.

Have you EVER seen Judy Stein admit to having been
bested in one of the arguments she starts? Have you
agreed with her every time she declares herself the
winner? Well, that's what's happening with this
Presidential debate as well. People lost in self
importance always think they won. People who have
bought into their favorite candidate's or poster's
projected glammer about their self-importance think 
that their guy or gal won, too. But in the end, 
all that happened was a mass flapping of the gums, 
with nothing resolved and no minds changed.





[FairfieldLife] How to figure out who won the debate

2008-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
Ignore The Pundits: How To Figure Out Who Won The Debate
by Judd Legum [Hillary Clinton's Research Director]

There were 23 debates during the Democratic primary and part of my job
on the Hillary campaign was to monitor the post-debate reaction in the
media. I watched hundreds of self-described political experts
instantly declare who won and who lost.

Here's what I learned: the pundits are full of it. They don't know any
more than you do and many of them have a vested interest in tilting
the scales one way or another. After the debate ends, if you want to
know who won, turn off the TV. You can figure it out for yourself.

The first thing to understand is that the winner of the debate isn't
the person who makes the best arguments. If it was, Al Gore would be
finishing up his second term. The winner of the debate is the person
who moves votes to their side. You can figure out who that will be by
focusing on these three factors:

1. 30 seconds are more important than 90 minutes. Although tens of
millions of people will watch the debate, most everyone will forget
the bulk of it immediately. The lasting impression of the debate for
most voters will be the two or three exchanges -- usually less than 15
seconds long -- that are replayed, discussed, and analyzed over and
over again. More often than not, whoever gets the best of these
moments wins the debate.

For example, in the Des Moines Register debate in mid-December, Obama
was asked a pretty tough question: How he could rely on so many former
Clinton advisers and still represent a break from the past? Hillary
laughed and said, I want to hear that! Obama flashed a smile and
shot back: Hillary, I'm looking forward to you advising me as well.
It was a pitch-perfect response and catnip for the media, which played
the exchange repeatedly for days. Overall, Hillary turned in a very
solid performance and demonstrated an impressive command of the
issues. But it didn't matter. Obama had won the key 15 seconds and it
gave him a critical boost just days before the Iowa caucus.

John Edwards was generally regarded as an excellent debater. So why
was it that the debates never seemed to help him much in the polls? He
never really did anything memorable. (Quick: name one line Edwards
said in a primary debate.) His answers were always smooth, coherent
and on message. It didn't do him any good.

Identify who got the better of two or three most memorable exchanges
between Obama and McCain and you'll be a long way toward identifying
the winner.

2. Mistakes matter, but only some of them. Probably the worst mistake
in the Democratic primary debates was Hillary's famous non-answer to a
question about drivers licenses for undocumented immigrants. But it
wasn't a big mistake because people care deeply about the issue. (When
is the last time you've heard driver's licenses mentioned on the
campaign trail?) It was important because it fit into a pre-exisiting
narrative about Hillary that had been developed by her opponents for
some time. Namely, that Hillary is politically calculating and
dishonest. Since it reinforced a pre-exisiting narrative it caused
Hillary immense damage and sent the campaign into a tailspin from
which it never fully recovered.

During the next debate in Nevada, Obama was asked a similar question
about drivers licenses for illegal immigrants and gave a similarly
meandering answer. Yet, he paid no political price. The reason is
simple: no one believed at the time that Obama was dishonest or
politically calculating. So a mistake that was debilitating for
Hillary was a non-issue for Obama.

In this debate, a mistake on an economic issue will be more damaging
to McCain because there is a pre-existing narrative that he isn't
knowledgeable or engaged on the economy. Similarly, a mistake on
foreign policy would be more damaging to Obama because there is a
pre-existing narrative that he may not have the experience to be
commander-in-chief.

3. It is a popularity contest. At the end of the day these candidates
are trying to get voters to like them. As a result, in many instances,
what the candidates say is far less important than how they say it.

During the spring and summer, Obama struggled to gain traction in
debates because the delivery of his answers were perceived as detached
and professorial. In other words, the things he was saying were smart
but he wasn't making friends. In an August debate, Hillary won a lot
of admirers when she said with a smile: For fifteen years, I have
stood up against the right-wing machine and I've come out stronger. So
if you want a winner who knows how to take them on, I'm your girl!

The person who is the most relaxed and getting some laughs is usually
the winner.

The reason why much of the punditry that follows the debate is
inaccurate or irrelevant is that many of the people involved are far
more interested in shaping the outcome of the debate than reflecting
it. It usually doesn't work, but most give it a shot anyway.

You can do 

[FairfieldLife] Community Reinvestment Act?

2008-09-27 Thread cardemaister

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act

The CRA was passed into law by the 95th United States Congress in 1977
as a result of national grassroots pressure for affordable housing,
and despite considerable opposition from the mainstream banking
community.[1] Only one banker, Ron Grzywinski from ShoreBank in
Chicago, testified in favor of the act.[2] The CRA mandates that each
banking institution be evaluated to determine if it has met the credit
needs of its entire community. That record is taken into account when
the federal government considers an institution's application for
deposit facilities, including mergers and acquisitions. The CRA is
enforced by the financial regulators (FDIC, OCC, OTS, and FRB).



[FairfieldLife] MMY's translation vs. A.C's translation!

2008-09-27 Thread cardemaister
Bhagavad-giitaa VI 5

uddhared aatmanaatmaanaM
naatmaanam avasaadayet
aatmaiva hy aatmano bandhur
aatmaiva ripur aatmanaH

(uddharet; aatmanaa; aatmaanaM
na; aatmaanam avasaadayet
aatmaa; eva hi; aatmanaH; bandhuH
aatmaa; eva ripuH; aatmanaH)

MMY:

Let a man rise his self by his Self,
let him not debase his Self; he alone,
indeed, is his own friend, he alone
his own enemy.

Let a man rise (uddharet) his self  (aatmaanam)
 by his Self (aatmanaa)
let him not debase (na...avasaadayet) his Self (aatmaanam);
he alone (aatmaa; eva) indeed (hi), 
[is] his own (aatmanaH) friend (bandhuH), 
 he alone (aatmaa; eva) his own (aatmanaH) enemy (ripuH).

A.C:

A man must elevate himself by his own mind, 
not degrade himself. The mind is the friend 
of the conditioned soul, and his enemy as well.





[FairfieldLife] Navaratri and Chandi Path

2008-09-27 Thread benjaminccollins
Navaratri starts next week and the mantra text usually recited during
the nine nights is called Chandi Path or Durga Saptashati.  It is 700
verse that tell the story of the Divine Mother.

I have posted a traditional rendition as chanted by some Varanasi
pundits, online at www.puja.net.  You can also download it to listen
off-line if you wish.

Here's the direct link:

http://www.puja.net/wordpress/podcast-2/










[FairfieldLife] Meanwhile, back in the real world...

2008-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
I'm sitting about a kilometer from the ex-pat 
cafe I was sitting at before. The conversation
there about the US Presidential debate died 
after a mere 15 minutes. 

It's understandable. It's a sunny but cool day
in Sitges. There is a strong wind coming in 
from North Africa, and there are bare breasts
on the beach. Life is good. Why would one want
to sit in a cafe and debate a debate taking 
place in a country where life *isn't* good?

It's like what Curtis said recently when the 
latest Hi, I'm Enlightened guy came through
the swinging doors. To paraphrase, Curtis sug-
gested that listening to someone talk about 
their own enlightenment was like listening to
someone talk about their latest orgasm. Who
really cares?

Similarly, on a fine September day such as 
this, why should the residents of a country
where life is good a *lot* waste time talking
about American politics? It would be like 
sitting on the rim of the Grand Canyon gazing
out at the wonder and talking about the sani-
tation workers' strike back in New York and 
how garbage is piling up in the streets. It 
just doesn't make any sense to sit in a place 
where things make sense and dwell overlong 
on a place where they don't.

What you focus on you become.

As true in Sitges, Spain as it is in the high
Himalayas or in Fairfield, Iowa. This posting
week will start as so many have done lately,
with people trying to suck our attention to
the garbage strike and debate it endlessly.
And we will...sadly, me among them. 

But hopefully I will wake up from time to time
and notice the beauty in front of me, and feel
the desert wind on my face, and remember that 
there are better things to talk about.





[FairfieldLife] Cool Moments

2008-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
As another birthday approaches, and I get closer
and closer to the end of my life, the things I find 
myself most thankful for are the Cool Moments I have 
experienced in that life.

Sitting in this beachside cafe with the wind in my
face, I find myself flip-flopping like Billy Pilgrim
to other moments I sat or stood on the edge of eternity
with the wind in my face. 

My body may be sitting here in Sitges, but my mind 
is in the Haleakala crater, watching a sunset so 
spectacular that it was signed in the lower right 
corner by God or someone acting on His behalf. Or 
on the rim of Grand Canyon, watching another sunset 
and having a conversation with a scorpion. Or after 
a fine Indian dinner at Nirvana on Central Park 
South, standing at the window with Rama and feeling 
the same wind in our faces as we gazed out at the 
same eternity. So many Cool Moments. And so 
*accessible*.

Because the nature of these other Cool Moments was 
eternity, they are eternal. All it takes is the 
feel of the wind in my face again to bring them
back from the past and immerse me again in their
magic, here and Now.

But the coolest part of being transported back in
time to these Cool Moments of the past is that 
every time it happens, a little of that magic comes
forward in time into Now, and transforms Now into
another Cool Moment. 

This is one of them. Someday I will be sitting 
somewhere else and the feel of the wind on my face 
will transport me back to this moment sitting in 
a beachside cafe in Sitges, and I will smile. I'm 
going to stop writing now and just sit here with 
the wind in my face. Talk amongst yourselves.  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Sanskrit speaking village in MP

2008-09-27 Thread Vaj

http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=51aeb44c-438a-44b6-979b-baef18b83359

Sanskrit boulevard

Aditya Ghosh, Hindustan Times
September 20, 2008
First Published: 23:31 IST(20/9/2008)
Last Updated: 01:25 IST(21/9/2008)

Prem Narayan Chauhan pats his oxen, pushing them to go a little  
faster. Ziighrataram, ziighrataram chalanti, he urges them. The  
animals respond to their master’s call, picking up pace on the muddy  
path that leads to his 10-acre cornfield.


Chauhan, 35, dropped out of school early, after Class II. He does not  
consider it remarkable that he speaks what is considered a dying  
language (or that his oxen respond to it). For him, Sanskrit is not a  
devabhasha, the language of the gods, but one rooted in the  
commonplace, in the ebb and flow of everyday life in Jhiri, the remote  
hamlet in Madhya Pradesh, where he lives.


Mutterings under banyan trees, chit-chat in verandahs, pleasantries on  
village paths, disputes in the panchayat — in Jhiri, it's all in  
Sanskrit.


And then, a cellphone rings. The moment of contemporary reality is  
fleeting. Anachronism and Amar Chitra Katha take over as the  
conversation begins: “Namo, namah. Tvam kutra asi?” (Greetings. Where  
are you?)


A lost world rediscovered
Jhiri is India’s own Jurassic Park. A lost world that has been  
recreated carefully and painstakingly, but lives a precarious  
existence, cut off from the compelling realities of the world outside.


The 1,000-odd residents of this hamlet, 150 km north of Indore, hardly  
speak the local dialect, Malwi, any longer. Ten years have been enough  
for the Sanskritisation of life here. Minus the Brahminical pride  
historically associated with the language —  Jhiri has just one  
Brahmin family.


The much-admired 24-year-old Vimla Panna who teaches Sanskrit in the  
local school belongs to the Oraon tribe, which is spread over  
Chhattisgarh and Jharkhand. And the village is an eclectic mix of  
Kshatriyas, Thakurs, Sondhias, Sutars and the tribal Bhils.  Panna has  
been key in popularising Sanskrit with the women of Jhiri. With  
mothers speaking the language, the children naturally follow.


Take 16-year-old unlettered Seema Chauhan. She speaks Sanskrit as  
fluently as Panna, who studied the language for seven years for her  
Master’s degree.


Chauhan is a livewire, humouring and abusing the village girls in  
Sanskrit. “I just listened to Vimla didi,” she says. “In fact, I'm  
often at a loss for words in Malwi.” Just married to a man from a  
neighbouring village, she says confidently, “My children will speak in  
Sanskrit because I will talk to them in it.”


As eight-year-old Pinky Chauhan joins us, she greets me politely:  
“Namo namaha. Bhavaan kim karoti?” (What brings you here?) Her father  
Chander Singh Chauhan laughs and says, “My wife started speaking to me  
in this language, so I learnt it to figure out what she was saying  
behind my back.”


Let’s get official
Mukesh Jain, CEO, Janpad Panchayat, Sarangpur tehsil (which includes  
Jhiri), recalls, “I could not believe it when I first came here. It  
can get difficult during official interactions, but we encourage them.”


All kinds of logistical problems crop up in Jhiri. This year, 250  
students did their school-leaving exams in Sanskrit. “A Sanskrit  
teacher had to work along with all the examiners of other subjects,”  
says Jain.



But there are some positive offshoots too. Thanks to Sanskrit, Jhiri  
has re-discovered some lost technologies of irrigation, conservation  
and agriculture from the old scriptures. A siphon system of water  
recharging, for instance, resulted in uninterrupted water supply  
through the year in the fields. Small check-dams, wells and irrigation  
facilities followed.


“It is matter of pride for us to retrieve these old techniques from  
the scriptures. With no help from the government and without using any  
artificial systems, we’ve reaped great benefits,” says Uday Singh  
Chauhan, president of the Vidya Gram Vikash Samity, which runs  
development programmes in the village.


But Jhiri's pride stops at Sanskrit. The first doctor, engineer,  
economist, scientist or linguist is yet to walk out from it. After  
finishing school, most village youth join a political party.


Electricity is a matter of luxury, so is sanitation. Even the school  
does not have a toilet, which is the single biggest reason for girls  
dropping out at the senior secondary level. The average age of  
marriage for women is 14. Even Panna, who was thinking of doing her  
PhD, had to give in to the wishes of the wise men of Jhiri who got her  
married to the other schoolteacher, Balaprasad Tiwari.


There is no public transport; an Internet connection is unimaginable.  
Jhiri desperately needs to connect to the rest of the world, to  
explore its infinite possibilities, to grow.


But Jhiri is still a success story, especially when you consider that  
a similar experiment, started a 

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Debate

2008-09-27 Thread Vaj

On Sep 26, 2008, at 11:10 PM, Bhairitu wrote:

 What are other's take?

Obama came across as more intelligent, being able to rise to the  
occasion with savvy and insight, whereas McCain's responses were  
formulaic and relied on story telling rather than substance. Clearly  
McCains strong suit was anything having to do with war mongering where  
he was clearly in his own element; however I took that as a bad thing,  
not a good thing. We don't need a maverick frat-boy front-man for the  
Military Industrial Complex again (who may be a wife-beater as well).  
His consciousness seems brimming with negative emotion which he can  
barely contain. We don't need it spilling over on us and the planet.

When McCain brought up Reagan and Betrayus (many times) I wish Obama  
would have at least pointed out that Reagan is the source of our  
current economic meltdown. But of course he would have risked  
alienating the Conservs/Repubs whose level of consciousness is often  
on par with someone in the throes of early Alzheimer's.


[FairfieldLife] Re: How one lone guy in front of a computer may change the election

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Wow.
  
  Billy, Shemp, and Raunchydog all posted the same link!
  
  Great minds think alike...
 
 Wouldn't you need a mind for that?  :-)
 
 Judy would have posted the link, too, had 
 she not shot her angry wad in two days.

Er, no, I wouldn't have. Instead, I would have
pointed out (as I am now doing) that the entire
premise of the video--that the Community
Reinvestment Act is responsible for the current
meltdown--is in serious error. It's the latest
attempt by Republicans to scramble out from
under responsibility for the crisis. Not
surprisingly, the facts don't support them.

(Note that Barry doesn't have Clue One about
*why* the video is nonsense.)

First of all, the CRA was instituted in 1977,
but subprime mortgages didn't become a fad
until 2004, at a point when lending under CRA
had slowed substantially (and, albeit probably
incidentally, after the Bush administration
had weakened CRA).

Second, around 80 percent of the risky loans
were made either not under CRA or only partially
under it; mortgage lenders not under CRA made
subprime loans at twice the rate of those that
were governed by it.

The underlying causes of the crisis were the
greed of unscrupulous lenders, the reckless
packaging of these risky loans for reselling as
high-return investments, and the refusal of
Republicans to allow regulation of Wall Street
as its well-being became increasingly dependent
on making ever more money on garbage.

(Actually, subprime loans were only the
*trigger* for the meltdown. It wasn't just those
loans that were unsound, it was the entire
structure within which the investment banks were
operating. It was a house of cards, and once the
subprime card was pulled out, the rest started
to collapse as well.)

For details and links:

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?
article=did_liberals_cause_the_subprime_crisis

http://tinyurl.com/3sjcfj

 It's 
 just the latest incarnation of The Only Thing 
 They've Got To Post.
 
 You know the one: This new (Wright/Ayers/
 lipstick/whatever...pick one) scandal will 
 be the one that brings Obama down. And then
 you'll all be hurting and you'll have to 
 come crawling to us and admit that we were
 RIGHT and you were WRONG. We rule and you
 are all REEELLY REEELLY STOOOPID.

Actually, the RLY RLY STPID
is owned by Barry here.

 In other words, it's Just More Self-Importance
 Fantasy on their parts, is *just* as important
 as they are, and has as much substance as they
 have. Big zero, in all three columns.

Except for Barry, of course, who practically
breaks a blood vessel trying to get readers not
to take us seriously, and whose brain seizes up
so badly from the pressure that he is incapable
of saying anything substantive about what we post
(or, frequently, mischaracterizes our positions
so wildly that it's obvious the red haze through
which he reads our posts keeps him from having
any idea what we're actually saying).

 Angry people need things to be angry about.

Indeed. For Barry, it's whatever the people he
doesn't like happen to post.

What's particularly funny is that raunchydog is
playing him like a fiddle. Half of what she posts
is designed to get him riled up so he spouts off
with yet another of his furious rants--the very
tactic he claims *he* uses. But he's incapable of
recognizing it when it's used against *him*.

 They like videos like this because 1) they 
 pander to their fantasies that people on FFL
 (or anywhere) are actually taking them
 seriously 2) the links give them something to
 post, since they can't think up anything on
 their own, and 3) cutting and pasting Other
 People's Thoughts is the closest they can
 come to thought.

Note again that Barry has no thoughts of his own
about the substance of the video.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Meanwhile, back in the real world...

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm sitting about a kilometer from the ex-pat 
 cafe I was sitting at before. The conversation
 there about the US Presidential debate died 
 after a mere 15 minutes. 
 
 It's understandable. It's a sunny but cool day
 in Sitges. There is a strong wind coming in 
 from North Africa, and there are bare breasts
 on the beach. Life is good. Why would one want
 to sit in a cafe and debate a debate taking 
 place in a country where life *isn't* good?

Perhaps, if one were paying attention, because
what happens in the U.S. will inevitably have an
effect on how good one's blissful life in Sitges
remains.

 Similarly, on a fine September day such as 
 this, why should the residents of a country
 where life is good a *lot* waste time talking
 about American politics? It would be like 
 sitting on the rim of the Grand Canyon gazing
 out at the wonder and talking about the sani-
 tation workers' strike back in New York and 
 how garbage is piling up in the streets.

The difference is that in this case, there's
enough garbage piling up to fill the Grand
Canyon to overflowing; it's already pouring into
the bottom of the canyon. It hasn't yet risen 
high enough to get in the way of the view at the
top, but it will soon.




[FairfieldLife] Women say temple gurus made sexual advances

2008-09-27 Thread Vaj

BARSANA DHAM TEMPLE

Women say temple gurus made sexual advances
Religious group denies accounts of intimate contact with two spiritual  
leaders.

By Eric Dexheimer
AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF

Saturday, September 27, 2008

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Sexual advances from the two spiritual gurus of the Barsana Dham  
temple were a part of life for some women who lived on, or frequently  
visited, the ashram south of Austin, according to the recollections of  
five women who spent a collective 60 years living, working and  
worshipping at the Hindu temple.


The intimate contact between the gurus — Prakashanand Saraswati, known  
as Shree Swamiji, and his spiritual master, Maharajji Kripalu, also  
called Kripalu — and some women on the ashram was known and accepted  
among other devotees, added the women, who all said they experienced  
the advances firsthand. Many of the incidents they recounted occurred  
years before: The latest with Prakashanand was a decade ago; with  
Kripalu, in 2003. All of the women have since quit the organization.


The organization did not make the gurus available for comment. But  
temple representatives vigorously denied the accusations, suggesting  
they were part of an orchestrated plan to disparage the organization  
by disgruntled ex-devotees. Ashram director Kathleen Williams called  
the women's recollections preposterous and insisted that the  
incidents did not happen.


The women's claims come five months after Prakashanand was indicted in  
Hays County on 20 counts of indecency with a child, and a little over  
a year after Kripalu was charged with rape in the West Indies country  
of Trinidad and Tobago. The charges against Kripalu were later dropped  
for lack of evidence.


The charges against Prakashanand, filed in April, stem from incidents  
in 1993 and 1995, according to a Hays County grand jury indictment, in  
which two women accused the guru of repeatedly groping them when they  
were teenagers living at the Austin ashram. He has pleaded not guilty.


Peter Spiegel, another ashram director, said the allegations by the  
five women were ignited by the recent headlines and were from a small  
group of people attempting to disrupt Barsana Dham. I've never seen  
Swamiji do anything remotely related to these false allegations, he  
said. Maharajji Kripalu is always surrounded by multiple people. I've  
never heard anybody make any claim of sexual impropriety. I believe  
these allegations are complete fabrications.


In recent years, Prakashanand, who travels widely, has visited the  
Austin ashram four or five times a year, staying for two weeks to a  
month at a time. He was last in Austin a month ago. Kripalu keeps a  
home in a temple in Mangarh, in central India. He was last at the  
Austin ashram in spring 2007.


The women who spoke to the American-Statesman requested anonymity  
because they feared reprisal from the Hindu organization. The paper  
typically does not publish the names of people alleging sexual  
exploitation.


Some of the behavior described by the women would not be considered  
criminal because it occurred between consenting adults. A few of the  
incidents might have been considered assaults, although the statute of  
limitations has since passed in most of the cases. Texas law also  
includes a provision in which a clergyman can be charged for having  
sex with someone by exploiting the other person's emotional  
dependency on the clergyman in the clergyman's professional character  
as spiritual adviser, although it is unclear if that would apply in  
these instances.


One woman, today a California resident, said she tried to interest  
lawyers in her story. But because the incident she recalled occurred  
in India and there was no physical evidence, she said she couldn't  
find an attorney to represent her.


Barsana Dham is part of a larger Hindu organization called Jagadguru  
Kripalu Parishat, or JKP, that was founded around Kripalu, who is  
considered God-realized, or a living, saint by his followers. It  
claims tens of thousands of followers and has a half-dozen large  
temples, all, except for Barsana Dham, in India.


Barsana Dham is one of the largest Hindu worship centers in the United  
States. Hundreds of worshippers, many drawn from Central Texas' South  
Asian community, attend weekly services. Major Hindu festivals can  
attract thousands of people to the site.


The women who spoke to the Statesman represent a small subset of that  
membership. Part of an inner circle that typically lived at the ashram  
and spent many hours on-site praying and performing volunteer service  
for the organization, they had regular contact with the gurus when the  
men were there. At Barsana Dham, the vast majority of people in this  
group are not Indian.


Barsana Dham 

[FairfieldLife] 'Elitist McCain Couldn't Look at his Opponent'

2008-09-27 Thread Robert
Mr. military didn't even have the guts or the humanly respect to even look at 
Senator Obama, in the debate last night.
No wonder he doesn't want to talk to anyone who doesn't agree with him.
He has the same dictatorial tendencies of Bush.
We definitely don't need another Bush.
No more Bush. No more elitist military madness.
R.G.


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis?

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ 
 wrote:
 
  http://tinyurl.com/4mcyt5 FYI Bots! Have fun ranting about this one!
 
 So why aren't Bush and McCain shouting this from the rooftops?

Because it's worse nonsense than even they are
willing to spout.




[FairfieldLife] Re: The lesson of FFL -- there is no such thing as 'reality'

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 What might 'really' be there has nothing whatsoever
 to do with what people see in the world and in their
 scriptures and in the figures they overidentify with.
 The only thing it seems that people are *capable*
 of seeing is what they want to see.

Fer shure, and this post is an excellent example.

 In recent days we've seen seen some here look at 
 Barack Obama and see only a lying, evil terrorist,
 while they look at the Abomination From Alaska and
 see only a poor, victimized woman.
snip
 We've seen John McCain called a hero while acting
 like an abject coward

In fact, nobody except Barry has seen ANY OF
THE ABOVE on this forum.

 The only sense I can make of all this is that 'reality,'
 as comforting a notion as it might be, doesn't really
 exist. Everybody sees things the way they bloody well
 see them. They bring their pre-existing beliefs and
 prejudices to the table, smear them all over a clean 
 pair of rose-colored glasses like Vaseline, and then
 peer through the gooey haze at the world and declare
 what they see 'reality.'

Everybody *does* see things differently. But
this, of course, doesn't mean reality doesn't
really exist; it just means that nobody sees
it with perfect clarity.

The layers of Vaseline on different people's
glasses are of varying thicknesses. For some,
it's just a very thin film, so what they see
is a lot closer to reality than those with a
heavier layer.

However, a few people's glasses are smeared
so heavily with Vaseline as to be completely
opaque. They're incapable of seeing *any* of
reality and have to make it all up.

 This is *supposedly* a forum composed of long-term
 spiritual seekers, people who -- one way or another --
 have been pursuing knowledge or happiness or enlight-
 enment or *something* for decades. And yet the posters
 here don't seem to me to display any more clarity in 
 their perceptions of the world or any less bigotry, 
 hatred, and violence in the way they interact with
 that world than anyone on a non-spiritual forum.

Bear in mind that the person for whom this
seems to be true is also the one who saw
things of which there is no record in the
archives. So we need to take that into
account when we consider whether what seems
to be the case for him has any relationship
to reality. It doesn't seem to occur to him
that *his* clarity of perception may be far
more blurred than that of the rest of us.

Or as my grandmother used to say, channeling
folks like Barry: Everybody's crazy but me
and thee, Samanthy, and sometimes I think even
*thee* is a little strange.

snip




[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama and Ayers Pushed Radicalism On Schools

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

snip
 Perhaps one day she'll realize that her beloved Hillary was
 a very poor candidate who didn't deserve to win. Hillary is like a
 woman who entered a 10K road race, was given a 5K start, and still
 managed to lose the race. Quite an achievement.

Too funny. Anything to try to obscure the fact
that Hillary got 18 million votes in the primary,
half the Democratic voters.

The Obamazoids have to fantasize that she was a
very poor candidate or that she failed miserably,
as poor Barry keeps claiming. I think it was
mainstream who said in another recent post that the
Democratic Party did everything it could to help her
win!




[FairfieldLife] Using shame vs. offering benefit

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
From the blog Anglachel's Journal:

When Democratic women say The Obama camp has run a
sexist, mysogynistic campaign, we are told we're
wrong, no such thing, there was not any sexism there,
except maybe some from Tweety [Chris Matthews of
MSNBC]. When Democratic women say, No, it's not his
race, it's his lack of commitment to the programs
that matter to us, we are told that, no, we're all
just racist bitches, and that it's our fault if he
doesn't win.

What does it mean to electoral outcomes if what we
Democratic women are saying is simply true? That
there is too much encouragement of and reliance upon
misogyny as a campaign tactic? That our objections to
this candidate really are based on rational economic
self-interest, and are not due to his race?

Using shame (shame of being female, shame of being
racist) rather than offering benefit is a tactic that
may intimidate some, and perhaps win some over who
would rather be part of the pack that attacks than
one who is attacked, but mostly it engenders
resentment. It is nothing on which political
solidarity can be founded. Hasn't the Democratic Party
learned that it is not enough to run on I'm not
[insert opponent here]? That was a losing argument
against Nixon, Reagan, Bush I and Bush II. Shouting
The other party is worse! does nothing to address
the weaknesses and failings of our own. Put on top of
that a very public contempt for the concerns of a
large and (until now) unswervingly loyal constituency
and this is a recipie [sic] for long term, nearly
permanent loss of electoral power.

I'll never vote Republican, but for the first time in
my life, I feel no desire to vote Democrat, either.

I've written reams of analysis of why the current
election is shaping up the way it has and I may be
wrong about my judgments on those things, but I know
my own thoughts. When I say I won't vote for Obama
after the revolting campaign he has run and because
he doesn't have anything substantive to back him up,
I mean exactly those two things, nothing more, nothing
less.

It's just the truth.

http://anglachelg.blogspot.com/2008/09/and-if-its-truth.html




[FairfieldLife] Re: voting with the president 90% of the time

2008-09-27 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Perhaps someone can explain this to me.
 
 How can one vote with the president on a particular bill?  Other 
than 
 signing a bill or giving it a veto, the president doesn't get to 
vote 
 on a bill...so how does one determine whether one is voting with the 
 president on a particular bill?

Seems that the President is the leader of his political party;
And the president wants legislation introduced which he will pass, and 
sign into law.
Likewise the opposition party will attempt to introduce legislation, 
which the president can veto.
If the oppostion party wants something passed, and the president vetos 
it, then they can go back and get 2/3 of the congress to pass it and 
override the presidents veto.
The president sets the tone and the direction of the political party 
he represents and appropriate legislation follows.
Like Reagan said 'Government is the Problem'...
So, he proceeded to dismantle the government, and attempted to strip 
as much influence the government could have on regulating anything and 
everything.
He gave our government over to military and corporate interests.
Left up to Reagan or Bush or McCain, they would dismantle social 
security, or any other social program.
They would put all the money into the military, to further the Empire,
and transfer as much money as possible into the pockets of people that 
didn't need it, from the pockets of those that do need it.
Instead of a government by and for the people, we have a government by 
and for the military and corporate America.
R.G.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Identity Theft, continued...the new C word

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To continue my musings about the dangers of
 identifying oneself (or one's self) overmuch
 with some political or spiritual figure, let's 
 see how those who have been so vocal here in 
 their defense of and support for John McCain 
 and Sarah Palin look this morning.
 
 For weeks they have been spewing invective at
 Barack Obama while defending Palin and McCain
 and calling those who dare to ask them tough
 questions like Tell us why you're qualified
 names. For weeks they have tried to make their
 support of these two idiots look rational and
 talking tough, like their hero candidate and
 his gun-toting partner in lies.

Barry would like you to think that his
descriptions above include me. But they
don't, of course. As usual, Barry's more
interested in bashing than in being
accurate. It isn't clear whether he knows
what he says doesn't apply to me and just
doesn't care, or whether he's ignored
what I've actually been saying.

For the record, although at this point it's
absurd for me to even have to say it: I
don't support either McCain or Palin. I
think they're both perfectly ghastly
candidates.

But if you're going to go after them, make
sure your criticisms are *accurate*.

My approach to politics, as with other
contentious areas of discussion, is to do
my damndest to sort through the various
perspectives to try to get to the truth
(factual, that is). Most of the time,
views at the extremes are simply not
accurate, or at least can't be asserted
with any certainty. There's frequently an
other side.

For example:

 And this morning? Well, it looks as if in McCain
 they chose to back

(Note: The they here does not include me.)

 a full-blown COWARD. *Just* 
 as he did in Vietnam, where his fellow prisoners
 called him a whiner and a coward and he himself
 admits to crying and considering suicide a lot,

And yet when offered early release from the
POW camp, he refused to take it because
others who had been taken prisoner before
him had not been released. It's pretty
difficult to characterize that as cowardly,
*especially* if what he'd had to go through
was so bad that it made him consider suicide.
 
 when push comes to shove, what does hero McCain 
 do? He bails.
 
 He tucks his tail between his legs and makes
 up an excuse and runs. And what exactly is it
 that he is running FROM? From having to debate
 his opponent, during which he's going to be 
 asked to say what he is really for and what he
 has DONE during the last 26 years that didn't 
 actually *cause* the crisis he's now using as 
 an excuse to avoid a debate.

As it turns out, he changed his mind and did the
debate after all.

In any case, he wasn't running from the debate.
As it happens, he's pretty good at debates.

Rather, he thought he'd gain some political
advantage from appearing statesmanlike and
bipartisan, putting aside politics to deal
with a national crisis.

Earlier in the day, Obama had made a play to
gain himself some political advantage by
asking McCain to make a joint statement with
him about the bailout.

Suspending his campaign to go to Washington
and confer with the bailer-outers was McCain's
attempt to neutralize the advantage Obama had
taken with his play.

 And what of his running mate? Well, they're 
 trying to bail *her* out of the debates as well.
 I guess her presence is needed in Washington, too.
 I'm thinking that the real reason is that she is
 another full-blown COWARD, as are all of the 
 people who run the Republican campaign.

They can't avoid having Palin participate in the
vice-presidential debate. They'd be happy to have
an excuse to postpone it if they can to give them
more time to get her up to speed. (to the extent
that's even possible), but at this point the
debate is to be held as scheduled.

 Will the people of the United States see through
 the obfuscation and the excuses and the lies and
 send these two COWARDS back where they came from?
 That remains to be seen.
 
 One thing is certain, though. No one on this 
 forum is going to have a lick of respect for any-
 one else on this forum who tries to make excuses 
 for them. If they try, the C word applies to them, 
 too.

And Barry, ignoramus that he is, will no doubt
attempt to cast what I said above about McCain
as making an excuse for him.

I'll wait till he does, then embarrass him by
pointing out what he's missing.




[FairfieldLife] Re: How to figure out who won the debate

2008-09-27 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 2. Mistakes matter, but only some of them. Probably the worst mistake
 in the Democratic primary debates was Hillary's famous non-answer to a
 question about drivers licenses for undocumented immigrants. But it
 wasn't a big mistake because people care deeply about the issue. (When
 is the last time you've heard driver's licenses mentioned on the
 campaign trail?) It was important because it fit into a pre-exisiting
 narrative about Hillary that had been developed by her opponents for
 some time. Namely, that Hillary is politically calculating and
 dishonest. Since it reinforced a pre-exisiting narrative it caused
 Hillary immense damage and sent the campaign into a tailspin from
 which it never fully recovered.
 
 During the next debate in Nevada, Obama was asked a similar question
 about drivers licenses for illegal immigrants and gave a similarly
 meandering answer. Yet, he paid no political price. The reason is
 simple: no one believed at the time that Obama was dishonest or
 politically calculating. So a mistake that was debilitating for
 Hillary was a non-issue for Obama.
 

IMO, thats the classic struggle between not be swallowed by
confirmational bias (automatically seeing what conforms to your POV,
not seeing that which does not ) vs. identifying patterns and themes
in what one observes -- and using such as a (partial) model of how
things work.

Both dynamics rely on filtering and 'lenses (of varying shades). The
result of each dynamic is that one tends to give to some the benefit
of the doubt -- to others you give far less.

How to resolve and balance the two forces stay (more so) connected to
truthiness? 

Particularly when the effects of these forces can be multi-layered and
multi-dimensional. And each prone to be used as rationalizations for
and against a given proposition.

For me, its the regular reassessment and reassignment of probabilities
as to the truthiness of a particular perception. 

For example, over the past month or more, McCain has managed to erase
any and all memories of his 2000 campaign  -- straight talk express an
all -- with his series of lying, massively distorting and manipulative
ads and ploys. Every time I see a lying, short-sighted, or clueless ad
by McCain -- and then him (smirking?) I'm JM and I approve this ad
-- I cannot deny the evidence right in my face: JM is a lying,
opportunistic weasal (that clearly does not put country first and all
such talk is shallow attempts at manipulation and oozing hypocricy.) 
 The evidence is so clear, and so often repeated, its hard not to
assess a pattern to such behavior -- and to make an assessment of his
core character. 

And the having identified this pattern, its natural for a degree of
confirmational bias to emerge. Or is it simply a filter that cuts
through the BS? If I have to assess every JM statement for truthiness,
from the gitgo, I will miss the overwhelming pattern. However, having
seen the pattern, does the subsequent filtering of  what he says cause
distortion? 

The debate illustrated this dilemma. I found evidence that McCain was
not as shallow, opportunistic and manipulative as his ads may suggest.
Hardly a saint -- or a worthy candidate IMO, but still not as one
dimensional as my internal model would predict.

Constant reassessing and reassigning probabilities as new data emerges
is towards a solution. But perhaps only for anal analyzers such as
myself. How do others deal with balancing these two dynamics:
confirmational bias and pattern seeking?



 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit

2008-09-27 Thread Robert
 (snip) 
 Using shame (shame of being female, shame of being
 racist) rather than offering benefit is a tactic that
 may intimidate some, and perhaps win some over who
 would rather be part of the pack that attacks than
 one who is attacked, but mostly it engenders
 resentment.  
 (snip)
The really ironic thing her is that her husband Bill Clinton shamed 
Hillary more than anyone else could.
His sexual addiction problem had him committing adultary with more 
woman than can be counted.
And how could anyone be shamed more than he shamed her.
But she went along with it, and even encouraged this kind of behaviour.

Now we see McCain pick someone, not because of anything she has done, 
and not because of her experience;
But simply because she is a woman, and he thought women are so stupid, 
that by just picking someone with the same genitiles would bring all 
the women on board.
If that isn't partronizing than I don't know what is.
Talk about wearing blinders.
Might as well be deaf, dumb and blind.
R.G.



[FairfieldLife] If Jesus Ran For President . . .

2008-09-27 Thread do.rflex


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ1L4eeu5KI



[FairfieldLife] RIP Paul Newman

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
WESTPORT, Conn. - Paul Newman, the Academy-Award
winning superstar who personified cool as the
anti-hero of such films as Hud, Cool Hand Luke
and The Color of Money — and as an activist,
race car driver and popcorn impresario — has died.
He was 83. 

Newman died Friday after a long battle with cancer
at his farmhouse near Westport, publicist Jeff
Sanderson said. He was surrounded by his family
and close friends.

More here:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obit_newman


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr0IeZXtMrA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYqwYrbwHeM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qCPhah8ojQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=730Q-baXOhE




[FairfieldLife] Re: If Jesus Ran For President . . .

2008-09-27 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ1L4eeu5KI

Thats a great one. Feed anything into the McCain / Rove attack machine
and see, predictably, what you get. Evry time.

While looking at above link, I saw and played this.
Brilliant -- of sorts. OOH, seeing a believer poke holes in their
non-christian religion seems so obvious -- for the mature viewer, it
forces one to examine inconsistent religiously beliefs of their own
family/cultures' faith (if any). 

The bad news -- for the immature viewer -- red state nation may have a
high density quotient here -- such might conclude -- islam -- ha --
see its a total fraud -- unlike our true religion from our lord and
savior.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_RaCTBZPtMfeature=related



[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  (snip) 
  Using shame (shame of being female, shame of being
  racist) rather than offering benefit is a tactic that
  may intimidate some, and perhaps win some over who
  would rather be part of the pack that attacks than
  one who is attacked, but mostly it engenders
  resentment.
   
  (snip)
 The really ironic thing her is that her husband Bill Clinton shamed 
 Hillary more than anyone else could.

Uh, Robert, that would be a big fat non sequitur.

Sorry you can't come up with a better response.




[FairfieldLife] Re: If Jesus Ran For President . . .

2008-09-27 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
 
  
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ1L4eeu5KI
 
 Thats a great one. Feed anything into the McCain / Rove attack machine
 and see, predictably, what you get. Evry time.
 
 While looking at above link, I saw and played this.
 Brilliant -- of sorts. OOH, seeing a believer poke holes in their
 non-christian religion seems so obvious -- for the mature viewer, it
 forces one to examine inconsistent religiously beliefs of their own
 family/cultures' faith (if any). 
 
 The bad news -- for the immature viewer -- red state nation may have a
 high density quotient here -- such might conclude -- islam -- ha --
 see its a total fraud -- unlike our true religion from our lord and
 savior.
 
 
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_RaCTBZPtMfeature=related



Another good one (serial linking of videos -- one leads to another --
like kleenex)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTObJ9Iwd2Ufeature=related

God Loves Me Best





[FairfieldLife] Obama's Baloney Bar

2008-09-27 Thread raunchydog
 http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/files/2008/09/boloneyalert1.gif

http://tinyurl.com/4c36qm
The following was posted by Lea Lane on huffpo.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lea-lane/eat-crow-hell-yes-to-win_b_12671\
2.html  I Pass it on without comment since it speaks for
itself…Olivia Taylor-Young.

Do Whatever You Must to Trick Former Hillary Supporters into Voting for
Barack

Eat Crow? Hell Yes, to Win This Election

The Obama team is suddenly making a huge effort to gain women's
votes, but many die-hard Hillary supporters — dozens of my
acquaintances — remain bruised and confused. The fact that Palin is
on the ticket when HRC wasn't even vetted may turn out to have been
the major gaffe of Axelrod and Company, and the tipping point of this
tight election.

If you've been an outspoken Obama supporter from the beginning,
it's time to make amends with Hillary supporters you know. Arguing
with, or browbeating them to get on board is counterproductive, but
showing you've come around to respecting Hillary may ease their hurt
enough to do the trick. (Even if you don't mean it. This is
politics.)

Here's what you can do:

Eat crow. To get started, memorize this phrase, take a deep breath and
say: Now that I see how unqualified Sarah Palin is, I realize how I
misjudged Hillary Clinton. Even Biden said she would have made a great
vice president. Saying you wish she were the presidential nominee may
go too far, and you may not be able to get it out. But if the Hillaryite
brings it up, don't argue, and see below

Let the HRC voter vent.You may have to draw on every bit of patience you
have. You may have to hear once again how unfair it is that the Repubs
chose Palin, and the Dems ignored Hillary, and that the party would
assuredly be ahead if she were anywhere on the ticket. You may have to
hear old-news complaints about sexism and Jack Cafferty's
curmudgeonly comments, David Shuster's pimping Chelsea insult, the
Monica mentions, the tougher debate questions for Hillary. Do not look
like you want to run and soak your head in vodka, even if you do. Do not
talk unless asked. Listening without argument is the major way to keep
this potential voter attainable.


Act empathic. Nod your head in agreement when the subject of Palin or
Chris Matthews or Keith Olbermann's Hillary-bashing commentary is
mentioned. Learn these phrases and use them every so often: I imagine
it must be hard. It must seem unfair. I know, you wanted to see an
accomplished woman as president in your lifetime. I can understand
your being hurt (sad, mad, furious, despondent, livid, resentful,
apoplectic, intransigent, inconsolable, red-faced, nauseous, wretched,
shit-faced). Again, do not argue. Just listen.

Do not praise Obama.I know, this seems ridiculous, but now is not the
time in this chain of events. Also, do not praise Michelle or their
daughters. If the HRC supporter praises, agree and move on. This is not
so much about Obama as it is the closure about Hillary's run, which
remains a wound to some. Take a breath, and move to the next step, which
may be the hardest.

Praise HRC.Never mention her flaws. Be gracious and do not bring up her
vote for the war, or her dirty campaign. Do not allude to Bill.
Instead, try to find something you can praise with some conviction —
some version of By the end of the campaign I could understand why
people were so enthusiastic about Senator Clinton (not Hillary). I saw
her toughness, her brains, her heart. She is gracious and helpful in
defeat. And especially, Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton. You may
have to go back to steps one and two. Nobody said this would be easy.

Know your anti-female McCain political facts.Here comes the logic. Make
a cheat-sheet if necessary. If Palin can get past her ignorance about
The Bush Doctrine and the Constitution in prime time, you can learn
these few talking points. Remind HRC supporters that several Supreme
Court nominees (and Roe v Wade) are in the balance. Discuss
McCain/Palin's ultra-conservative record, and stands on right- to-
life, guns, creationism, you name it. You'll need to do some
homework here. Wikipedia and Google are there for you at all times.

Know your anti-female McCain emotional facts. If the above doesn't
do it, remain low-key, with a pleasant visage. Remind HRC supporters
that McCain left his disfigured first wife who waited loyally for him
and raised their children alone, to have an affair with Cindy, the
current, rich, much younger wife. But aha, continuing this behavior, he
probably cheated on this trophy with blonde lobbyist, Vicky Isenman.
(Where is this woman? In a rendition prison in Syria till after the
election? Hello, National Enquirer.) Remind the Hillary fan that McCain
called his $300k-suited trophy wife the C- word in public, and has a
notoriously terrible temper. And worst of all, and leave this for the
climax of this entire exercise: McCain publicly laughed at the allusion
to HRC as a bitch and — lowest of the low — made that public

[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit

2008-09-27 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
 
   (snip) 
   Using shame (shame of being female, shame of being
   racist) rather than offering benefit is a tactic that
   may intimidate some, and perhaps win some over who
   would rather be part of the pack that attacks than
   one who is attacked, but mostly it engenders
   resentment.

   (snip)
  The really ironic thing her is that her husband Bill Clinton shamed 
  Hillary more than anyone else could.
 
 Uh, Robert, that would be a big fat non sequitur.
 
 Sorry you can't come up with a better response.


I sur don't know what a non seequweeter is -- sounds like some hi
falutin words that some fancy elist might  use --- but there is 
something mighty strange in the logic BillyBob uses here. Out here in
the real america, where there are real women -- they don't get shamed
by no philandering husband. Everyone knows hes the shithead. Making it
all about the wife -- well thats shear hoccum pig shit.



 




[FairfieldLife] Re: voting with the president 90% of the time

2008-09-27 Thread boo_lives
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  Perhaps someone can explain this to me.
  
  How can one vote with the president on a particular bill?  Other 
 than 
  signing a bill or giving it a veto, the president doesn't get to 
 vote 
  on a bill...so how does one determine whether one is voting with the 
  president on a particular bill?
 
It was very obvious during the bush admin. esp the 6 yrs the
republicans controlled everything where bush stood on each bill.  in
many cases the legislative office within the white house actually
wrote the bill for the republican committees in congress and in all
cases during the time the congressional leadership did nothing without
approval from that office.  bush certainly didn't sign into law any
bill that he wouldn't have voted for during that time, and since dems
came into power bush has been very clear how he feels about he bill he
signs.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit

2008-09-27 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
 
   (snip) 
   Using shame (shame of being female, shame of being
   racist) rather than offering benefit is a tactic that
   may intimidate some, and perhaps win some over who
   would rather be part of the pack that attacks than
   one who is attacked, but mostly it engenders
   resentment.

   (snip)
  The really ironic thing her is that her husband Bill Clinton shamed 
  Hillary more than anyone else could.
 
 Uh, Robert, that would be a big fat non sequitur.
 
 Sorry you can't come up with a better response.

I sur don't know what a non seequweeter is -- sounds like some hi
falutin words that some fancy elitist might use --- but there is
something mighty strange in the logic BillyBob uses here. Out here in
the real america, where there are real women -- they don't get shamed
by no philandering husband. Everyone knows hes the shithead. Making it
all about the wife -- well thats shear hoccum pig shit.





[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's talks from 1960's - MP3 Audios

2008-09-27 Thread Dick Mays

Forwarded from a friend:

Maharishi's talks from the 1960's - MP3 Audios
These MP3 audio files of Maharishi's Talks from the 1960's are only 
available for a few days and the number of downloads that can be made 
is limited.  So, if you would like these files, please download and 
save them to your hard drive as soon as possible.



Maharishi and Tat Wale Baba speaking in Rishikesh 1969.

https://rcpt.yousendit.com/609326516/97b14be17b3bfe1ec7ab5d1e4a019bcdhttps://rcpt.yousendit.com/609326516/97b14be17b3bfe1ec7ab5d1e4a019bcd


Maharishi on the 108 Names of Guru Dev

https://rcpt.yousendit.com/608935972/df5ac91ff79de2ebfd8e8a4645bb9e40https://rcpt.yousendit.com/608935972/df5ac91ff79de2ebfd8e8a4645bb9e40

JAYA GURU DEVA


[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Baloney Bar

2008-09-27 Thread feste37
Although this piece is tongue-in-cheek, it confirms the worst
stereotypes of what women are like. When they get their poor little
feelings hurt because their girl lost, you are supposed to stroke them
and comfort them until they feel better. If you don't they go on
threatening to do something mean and spiteful, even though it is
against their own interests and what they declare they believe in.
(They're so irrational, the poor dears!) Women are, in short, very odd
creatures, but I guess we're just stuck with them. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/files/2008/09/boloneyalert1.gif
 
 http://tinyurl.com/4c36qm
 The following was posted by Lea Lane on huffpo.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lea-lane/eat-crow-hell-yes-to-win_b_12671\
 2.html  I Pass it on without comment since it speaks for
 itself…Olivia Taylor-Young.
 
 Do Whatever You Must to Trick Former Hillary Supporters into Voting for
 Barack
 
 Eat Crow? Hell Yes, to Win This Election
 
 The Obama team is suddenly making a huge effort to gain women's
 votes, but many die-hard Hillary supporters — dozens of my
 acquaintances — remain bruised and confused. The fact that Palin is
 on the ticket when HRC wasn't even vetted may turn out to have been
 the major gaffe of Axelrod and Company, and the tipping point of this
 tight election.
 
 If you've been an outspoken Obama supporter from the beginning,
 it's time to make amends with Hillary supporters you know. Arguing
 with, or browbeating them to get on board is counterproductive, but
 showing you've come around to respecting Hillary may ease their hurt
 enough to do the trick. (Even if you don't mean it. This is
 politics.)
 
 Here's what you can do:
 
 Eat crow. To get started, memorize this phrase, take a deep breath and
 say: Now that I see how unqualified Sarah Palin is, I realize how I
 misjudged Hillary Clinton. Even Biden said she would have made a great
 vice president. Saying you wish she were the presidential nominee may
 go too far, and you may not be able to get it out. But if the Hillaryite
 brings it up, don't argue, and see below
 
 Let the HRC voter vent.You may have to draw on every bit of patience you
 have. You may have to hear once again how unfair it is that the Repubs
 chose Palin, and the Dems ignored Hillary, and that the party would
 assuredly be ahead if she were anywhere on the ticket. You may have to
 hear old-news complaints about sexism and Jack Cafferty's
 curmudgeonly comments, David Shuster's pimping Chelsea insult, the
 Monica mentions, the tougher debate questions for Hillary. Do not look
 like you want to run and soak your head in vodka, even if you do. Do not
 talk unless asked. Listening without argument is the major way to keep
 this potential voter attainable.
 
 
 Act empathic. Nod your head in agreement when the subject of Palin or
 Chris Matthews or Keith Olbermann's Hillary-bashing commentary is
 mentioned. Learn these phrases and use them every so often: I imagine
 it must be hard. It must seem unfair. I know, you wanted to see an
 accomplished woman as president in your lifetime. I can understand
 your being hurt (sad, mad, furious, despondent, livid, resentful,
 apoplectic, intransigent, inconsolable, red-faced, nauseous, wretched,
 shit-faced). Again, do not argue. Just listen.
 
 Do not praise Obama.I know, this seems ridiculous, but now is not the
 time in this chain of events. Also, do not praise Michelle or their
 daughters. If the HRC supporter praises, agree and move on. This is not
 so much about Obama as it is the closure about Hillary's run, which
 remains a wound to some. Take a breath, and move to the next step, which
 may be the hardest.
 
 Praise HRC.Never mention her flaws. Be gracious and do not bring up her
 vote for the war, or her dirty campaign. Do not allude to Bill.
 Instead, try to find something you can praise with some conviction —
 some version of By the end of the campaign I could understand why
 people were so enthusiastic about Senator Clinton (not Hillary). I saw
 her toughness, her brains, her heart. She is gracious and helpful in
 defeat. And especially, Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton. You may
 have to go back to steps one and two. Nobody said this would be easy.
 
 Know your anti-female McCain political facts.Here comes the logic. Make
 a cheat-sheet if necessary. If Palin can get past her ignorance about
 The Bush Doctrine and the Constitution in prime time, you can learn
 these few talking points. Remind HRC supporters that several Supreme
 Court nominees (and Roe v Wade) are in the balance. Discuss
 McCain/Palin's ultra-conservative record, and stands on right- to-
 life, guns, creationism, you name it. You'll need to do some
 homework here. Wikipedia and Google are there for you at all times.
 
 Know your anti-female McCain emotional facts. If the above doesn't
 do it, remain low-key, with a pleasant visage. Remind HRC supporters
 that 

[FairfieldLife] Flash Flaws -- Any Insights?

2008-09-27 Thread new . morning
My Flash player gets easily corrupted (I know - its prolly the porn).
But almost daily,  u-tube and other videos run on Flash stop playing.
No sound. And usually the video just freezes. 

The temp fix is to re-install Flash. Tht takes 10 seconds. But to do
that, I have to shut donw Foxfire, And with 30 tabs open -- it does
take some time  to reload. 

So, not the biggest problem in the world -- but does anyone have
similar experience -- and / or have a more permanent solution?





[FairfieldLife] Re: How to figure out who won the debate

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
snip
 For me, its the regular reassessment and reassignment of
 probabilities as to the truthiness of a particular perception.

For the record, truthiness (as popularized by
Stephen Colbert) doesn't mean the quality of truth;
rather, it means something you're sure you know
without reference to facts or logic.

snip
 Constant reassessing and reassigning probabilities as new 
 data emerges is towards a solution. But perhaps only for
 anal analyzers such as myself. How do others deal with
 balancing these two dynamics: confirmational bias and
 pattern seeking?

I read as wide a range of opinion as I can manage. 
Typically, each person who voices an opinion will
have some set of facts and/or exercise in logic to
back it up, so the more different opinions you read,
the more facts and logical exercises you accumulate.

Then you try to come up with an interpretation of
those facts and logical exercises that's consistent
with all of it (while ignoring the opinions per se,
because they're based on only one portion of the
facts and logic).




[FairfieldLife] Re: Racist White Democrats may cost Obama the White House

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 You're falling for the good/evil dualistic dichotomy.

 I'm talking about an energy signature which is neither
 good nor evil on either side, because 1) such simplis-
 tic distinctions don't exist, and because 2) all beings
 are a complex *mix* of energies of all sorts.
snip
 It's just that Obama's energy mix is more intelli-
 gent than McCain's, by a long shot. That provides
 people with an opportunity to see which energy they 
 identify with more -- intelligence or idiocy.

horselaugh

Nothing dualistic or simplistic about Barry's
thinking, nosiree bob!

snip
In short, Obama represents the culmination of the struggle 
of the American people for life, liberty, and the pursuit 
of happiness. Anything less is slavery and servitude in 
more ways than one.
   
   I could not agree more. And interestingly, isn't
   it fascinating to see who on this forum literally
   hates the man, no matter how much they try to
   disguise it?

Somebody ask Barry when he got the siddhi
to discern who literally hates and who
does not.

 Without exception, the 
   posters on this forum who dislike Obama intensely
   are unhappy people, with a track record of trying
   their damnedest to make other people as unhappy as
   they are.

Hands, please: Who else believes those of us who
dislike Obama are unhappy people?

  Let's find out who they are by the response
  that you get.

You mean after Barry has done his level
best (but failed miserably) to try to make
us as unhappy as he is?

 You mean like a homosexual calling a straight
 guy a homosexual and thinking that it's an
 insult?  :-)

Is that anything like calling straight women
homosexuals and thinking it's an insult?

 THAT is what I'm talking about with regard to the clash
 of energies. It's not a good vs. evil thang; it's an
 intelligence vs. stupidity thang. No one who is the
 least bit intelligent (or sane) is going to go around 
 insulting other people by insinuating that they're 
 *just like them*.

I don't think anybody ever suggested you
were a straight woman, Barry.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Ok...there IS one area in which Indians are smarter than Americans

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Especially during a financial meltdown:
  
  
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4810644.ece
 
 Let's do the math, shall we?
 
 Because of the mismanagement of scores of CEOs
 of financial companies, the Bush administration
 is now proposing a 700-billion-dollar bailout
 package to essentially *reward* these same CEOs
 and say, We're going to pretend you didn't fuck
 up and ruin the economy...here's some free money.
 
 But the money isn't free, and it isn't theirs.
 It's YOURS, you taxpayers in America. And 700
 billion dollars translates to approximately 
 2,333 dollars for each man, woman, and child
 in the United States. (If I did the math right.)

Barry means, If I read the hundreds of Google
entries mentioning the $2,333 figure right.

 The people who *caused* this financial meltdown
 are not only going to get away Scot-free, they're
 going to get away rich. While YOU and your children
 pony up $2,333 each so that they can do it.
 
 Isn't about bloody time that a few people dragged
 these CEO sumbitches into an alley and kicked the
 crap out of them, before throwing them into prison
 where they'll be raped daily for the next 20 years, 
 the same way they've been raping 300,000,000 
 Americans?

Americans are *livid*, FYI. You can't have
been paying much attention if you aren't
aware of that. For example, from the NYT:

Americans' anger is in full bloom, jumping off the screen
in capital letters and exclamation points, in the e-mail
in-boxes of elected representatives in the nation's capital.

I am hoping Congress can find the backbone to stand on
their feet and not their knees before BIG BUSINESS,
one correspondent wrote to Representative Jim McDermott
of Washington.

I'd rather leave a better world to my children — NOT A
BANKRUPT NATION. Whew! Pardon my shouting, wrote
another.

Mr. McDermott is a liberal Democrat, but his e-mail messages
look a lot like the ones that Representative Candice S.
Miller, a conservative Republican from Michigan, is
receiving. NO BAILOUT, I am a registered republican,
one constituent wrote. I will vote and campaign hard against
you if we have to subsidize the very people that have sold
out MY COUNTRY

Around the country, Republican and Democratic voters are 
rising up in outright opposition to the White House plan or,
at the very least, to express concern that it is being pushed
through Congress in haste

Read more:

http://tinyurl.com/3j7rtk

Unfortunately, most of them seem to be too
consumed by their anger (or, in Barry's case,
their Schadenfreude) to realize that punitive
measures *at this point* will make a bailout
plan unworkable--because it depends on
cooperation from these very same CEO
sumbitches--and the economy's subsequent
collapse (not just the U.S. economy but the
global economy) will make them *wish* they'd
gone for the $2,333, or even CNET's inflated
figure of $17+K.

IF we can pull the economy back from the edge
of the cliff--and that's a BIG IF--then we
can start thinking about how to punish those
responsible for the meltdown.

In the meantime, congressional Democrats are
doing pretty well in revising the plan to
include provisions that will make it less
damaging to the taxpayers. Paulson's original
draft of the bill was never intended to be
its final form, as far too many hysterical,
uninformed people seem to think.

And word has leaked from the FBI that it has
opened fraud investigations into the 
practices of the firms that have figured most
prominently in the crisis.

Plus which, the $700 billion figure was never
meant to be an amount that would be disbursed
permanently. The whole idea is for the gummint
to be able to resell what it purchases once it
can be valued. What's been choking up the
markets is that nobody knows what these assets
are really worth. The bailout should put a
value on them and greatly reduce the 
uncertainty that has put a disastrous hold on
credit.

If the bailout is successful, the cost to
taxpayers is likely to be closer to $100
billion than $700 billion. Nothing to sneeze
at, but cheap compared to the systemic deadly
global pneumonia that will ensue otherwise.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/24/business/24leonhardt.html?
_r=1hporef=slogin

http://tinyurl.com/544nne




[FairfieldLife] Gondoliers for Obama

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
I can't share their enthusiasm, but gee whiz,
they're charming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25jhBVaiQw0





[FairfieldLife] Molly Atkinson - auto accident

2008-09-27 Thread Rick Archer
Hello all,

 

Molly had an auto accident last evening at about 5:30. She suffered a broken
neck, various other bone fractures, lacerations, internal injuries, etc. She
was airlifted to the UI Hospitals where a team of doctors has been working
on her all night.  She was conscious at the scene of the accident and told
the police how to reach Frank Pinto. She was conscious when she arrived at
the hospital.  Frank, Sue  I have been at the Surgical Intensive Care Unit
waiting all night. The doctors let us see her at 6:30am. She's stable,
heavily sedated, and appears to be sleeping deeply.  The doctors say she is
conscious and responding to their instructions.  Because of her broken neck,
the doctors have been concerned about spinal cord injury. They have her in
traction to realign the cervical vertebrae. I was told that she had lost
sensation in her lower body

Sue  I returned to Fairfield just now.  We may return to Iowa City when
Evan and Willow arrive at 3pm from California.  

 

Please pass this on to people who may know her, and keep Molly in your
prayers.

 

Arthur Atkinson

641/472-3666 

641-919-3979 cell

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



[FairfieldLife] He Used His Fame to Give Away His Fortune

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
Paul Newman
He used his fame to give away his fortune.
By Dahlia Lithwick
Posted Saturday, Sept. 27, 2008

The Hole in the Wall Gang Camp opened in Connecticut in 1988 to 
provide a summer camping experience—fishing, tie-dye, ghost stories, 
s'mores—for seriously ill children. By 1989, when I started working 
there as a counselor, virtually everyone on staff would tell some 
version of the same story: Paul Newman, who had founded the camp when 
it became clear his little salad-dressing lark was accidentally going 
to earn him millions, stops by for one of his not-infrequent visits. 
He plops down at a table in the dining hall next to some kid with 
leukemia, or HIV, or sickle cell anemia, and starts to eat lunch. One 
version of the story has the kid look from the picture of Newman on 
the Newman's Own lemonade carton to Newman himself, then back to the 
carton and back to Newman again before asking, Are you lost? 
Another version: The kid looks steadily at him and demands, Are you 
really Paul Human? 

Newman loved those stories. He loved to talk about the little kids 
who had no clue who he was, this friendly old guy who kept showing up 
at camp to take them fishing. While their counselors stammered, star-
struck, the campers indulged Newman the way they'd have indulged a 
particularly friendly hospital blood technician. It took me years to 
understand why Newman loved being at the Hole in the Wall Gang Camp. 
It was for precisely the same reason these kids did. When the campers 
showed up, they became regular kids, despite the catheters and 
wheelchairs and prosthetic legs. And when Newman showed up, he was a 
regular guy with blue eyes, despite the Oscar and the racecars and 
the burgeoning marinara empire. The most striking thing about Paul 
Newman was that a man who could have blasted through his life 
demanding Have you any idea who I am? invariably wanted to hang out 
with folks—often little ones—who neither knew nor cared.

For his part, Newman put it all down to luck. In his 1992 
introduction to our book about the camp, he tried to explain what 
impelled him to create the Hole in the Wall: I wanted, I think, to 
acknowledge Luck: the chance of it, the benevolence of it in my life, 
and the brutality of it in the lives of others; made especially 
savage for children because they may not be allowed the good fortune 
of a lifetime to correct it. Married to Joanne Woodward, his second 
wife, for 50 years this winter, Newman always looked at her like 
something he'd pulled out of a Christmas stocking. He looked at his 
daughters that way, too. It was like, all these years later, he 
couldn't quite believe he got to keep them.

Of course, it wasn't all luck. He lost his son, Scott, to a drug 
overdose in 1978, so in 1980, he founded the Scott Newman Center, 
which works to prevent substance abuse. When he first began to donate 
100 percent of the proceeds from his food company, Newman's Own, to 
charity, critics accused him of grandiosity. Grandiose? Tell that to 
the recipients of the quarter-billion dollars he's given away since 
the company's creation in 1982. First Paul Newman made fresh, healthy 
food cool, then he and his daughter Nell made organic food cool. Then 
he went and made corporate giving cool by establishing the Committee 
Encouraging Corporate Philanthropy. And all this was back in 
the '90s, before Lance Armstrong bracelets and organic juice boxes. 

But Newman never stopped believing he was a regular guy who'd simply 
been blessed, and well beyond what was fair. So he just kept on 
paying it forward. He appreciated great ideas for doing good in the 
world—he collected them the way other people collect their own press 
clippings—and he didn't care where they came from. Whether you were a 
college kid, a pediatric oncologist, or a Hollywood tycoon, if you 
had a nutty plan to make life better for someone, he'd write the 
check himself or hook you up with somebody who would. 

Today there are 11 camps modeled on the Hole in the Wall all around 
the world, and seven more in the works, including a camp in Hungary 
and one opening next year in the Middle East. Each summer of the four 
I spent at Newman's flagship Connecticut camp was a living lesson in 
how one man can change everything. Terrified parents would deliver 
their wan, weary kid at the start of the session with warnings and 
cautions and lists of things not to be attempted. They'd return 10 
days later to find the same kid, tanned and bruisey, halfway up a 
tree or canon-balling into the deep end of the pool. Their wigs or 
prosthetic arms—props of years spent trying to fit in—were forgotten 
in the duffel under the bed. Shame, stigma, fear, worry, all 
vaporized by a few days of being ordinary. In an era in which nearly 
everyone feels entitled to celebrity and fortune, Newman was always 
suspicious of both. He used his fame to give away his fortune, and he 
did that from some unspoken Zen-like conviction that neither had 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Possibly the greatest political ad ever!

2008-09-27 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, geezerfreak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 http://thegreatschlep.com/site/index.html
 
 (i love sarah silverman!)


FWIW, Blacks and Jews created the Blues! wink, wink



[FairfieldLife] Letter to NY Times -- Root of Housing Crisis

2008-09-27 Thread new . morning

Regarding:
Housing Help
by Chris Mayer
Published: September 26, 2008


I strongly disagree with Mayer's view that the first step to solve the
current financial crisis should be to reduce mortgage interest rates.
low interest rates have been the root of the crisis: a massive
lowering of interest rates and infusion of excess money into the
financial system. The result was not a mystery -- strong inflation in
the housing sector, a drastic overpricing of housing relative to
fundamentals, an over-investment in housing stock, and worst --
locking millions out of the housing market -- mostly have-nots --
young, first time buyers. Towards a solution is not to repeat the
cause of the crisis by lowering rates again. The solution will include
letting housing prices re-align with the fundamentals (income, rents
and mortgage costs) -- and opening the housing market to millions --
currently shut out by policies that created  and are sustaining
massively mis-priced housing assets.


=== Article ===

Housing Help

By CHRIS MAYER
Published: September 26, 2008

At the heart of the financial crisis is an unprecedented decline in
house prices. Yet the government response so far has been to try to
prop up insolvent financial institutions while doing nothing about the
underlying housing problem. The proposed Wall Street bailout would not
stop the next wave of defaults, which are coming from the rapidly
rising delinquencies in near-prime mortgages.

The government needs to directly stabilize the housing market. This is
equivalent to treating the infection with antibiotics, instead of
applying a cold compress for the fever. Both the fever and the
infection need treating.

The first step should be to reduce mortgage interest rates. In a
normal mortgage market, rates are about 1.6 percentage points above
the interest rate for 10-year Treasury notes. Recently, the difference
has been closer to 2.5 percentage points.

The government is in a great position to cut rates by about a point:
Through Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Housing
Administration, it now controls nearly 90 percent of all mortgage
originations. These lower rates would apply to most home buyers who
take out a loan under $729,750 for a house that they will live in.

Along with lower rates, the government should provide temporary
down-payment assistance for buyers. The government could, for example,
match the amount of money that buyers use for a down payment, up to
$15,000. Because the government now controls the bulk of all mortgage
financing, this money could be provided directly at closing.
Homeowners who refinance their current mortgages could also receive
assistance, allowing them to avoid foreclosure.

Programs like these would draw buyers into the housing market and
reduce the backlog of unsold and vacant homes. Investors and
speculators would be ineligible and would face the full cost of their
mistakes.

By stabilizing house prices, these programs would benefit the bulk of
Americans, who own a home but did not get involved in the subprime
mortgage market. Price stability would more directly achieve the goals
of the Wall Street bailout: increase the value of mortgage-backed
securities (by increasing the value of the underlying houses) while
injecting government capital into the financial system.

Some in Congress have suggested allowing homeowners to go to
bankruptcy court to lower their mortgage payments. But this would only
make credit more expensive by reducing the willingness of companies to
lend money. It would also worsen the current problems by letting
bankruptcy judges reduce mortgage balances — imposing even greater
losses on the owners of the mortgages, whose problems are at the heart
of the financial crisis. Such a program would also be limited to only
the most indebted and, in some cases, financially irresponsible
homeowners.

Some might argue that propping up house prices is what got us into
this mess. But with the recent decline in house prices, my
calculations suggest that the cost of owning a home today, relative to
renting, is about 10 percent lower than its average over the past 20
years.

The credit crisis will not be over until house prices stop falling.
Direct assistance for home buyers and homeowners is the best, and the
fairest, way to make that happen.

Chris Mayer is a professor of real estate and the senior vice dean of
Columbia Business School.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Flash Flaws -- Any Insights?

2008-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My Flash player gets easily corrupted (I know - its prolly the porn).
 But almost daily,  u-tube and other videos run on Flash stop playing.
 No sound. And usually the video just freezes. 
 
 The temp fix is to re-install Flash. Tht takes 10 seconds. But to do
 that, I have to shut donw Foxfire, And with 30 tabs open -- it does
 take some time  to reload. 
 
 So, not the biggest problem in the world -- but does anyone have
 similar experience -- and / or have a more permanent solution?

The issue may not be related to Flash per se
but to its sensitivity to available memory.
The clue may be in your mention of 30 tabs
open. Every time you open a tab, Firefox 
assigns an area of memory to it; no other
application can use that area of memory. And
an interesting flaw in Firefox is that it
doesn't release the memory when you close
the tab; you have to exit from Firefox alto-
gether to release all assigned memory. This
is one of the things that Google's Chrome
browser is supposed to fix.

I could be completely off-base about this,
but try exiting from Firefox periodically
during the day and restarting it, and see if
Flash continues to misbehave.






[FairfieldLife] Guru Dev - The Unmanifest

2008-09-27 Thread Rick Archer
The nature of a thing determines its use. For example, if you bring a
mircrophone and place it in front of me, but I sit silently, then it will
serve no purpose. The unmanifest is like me sitting silent. If I always sit
silent, what benefit can there be for you all? No profit can be derived from
the unmanifest Bhagavan until He assumes a form. I am telling you the way it
is.

I must explain these teachings strictly as they are told in the Vedas and
Shastra, and not to expound my own thinking. My duty is to explain the
teachings clearly. In this respect, I do not care whether the words are
pleasing to one or irritating to another. I neither need to please nor to
antagonize anybody. Still, I question those people who propound only the
unmanifest. In fact, I also accept the unmanifest, but not the unmanifest
alone. I ask those who propound only the formless: Can any profit be derived
from the unmanifest fire which is hidden in a piece of wood? Please show me
any bread cooked by an unmanifest fire.

The formless is only Being. I would like to ask those people who meditate
only on the formless, how do you meditate on the unmanifest? The mind can
only concentrate on an object of meditation, so how can one make the
unmanifest an object of meditation? Concentration on the unmanifest is not
possible. If someone says that he concentrates on the formless, it is like
saying that he is going to attend the wedding of the son of a barren woman.
Well, the son of a barren woman does not exist, so how can he marry? When
there is no form or outline to the unmanifest, how can one make it an object
of meditation? To collect the mental formations, some foundation is
necessary. Whatever is taken as the mind's foundation, that becomes the
form.

Formlessness is beyond all the trios, namely: meditation, meditator, and
object of mediation; and knowledge, knower, and object that is known.
Meditation on the formless is mere mockery. Only those who do not understand
the principle of formlessness can talk about meditation [dhyana] on the
formless. The principle of formlessness is merely for understanding; it is
the principle of existence, but the world cannot derive any benefit from
this principle. Can anybody derive any benefit from an unmanifest son? Can
anybody go to an unmanifest school and study? Can any minister sit on an
unmanifest chair? Can anyone cure a disease with an unmanifest medicine? Can
anyone be pleased with unmanifest food? The unmanifest is a completely
useless thing. It cannot be used for any purpose. That is why the argument
about formlessness is thoroughly useless.

The unmanifest is like a seed kept locked in a box. What is the use of it?
But if you sow it and do all the things required to grow it, then it will
give flowers and fruits. Until then, what's the benefit of a seed?

The formless Paramatman is all-pervasive. For example, if a room is full of
furniture, the unmanifest fire is within the furniture's wood. If the room
becomes dark, that all-pervading unmanifest fire cannot remove it. If some
of the furniture is ignited, the unmanifest fire can be made manifest, and
the darkness of that room will be eliminated immediately. But as long as the
fire is not manifest, it will not be useful in the daily affairs of this
manifest world. Only when the formless manifests in some form will it be
useful to the world.



[FairfieldLife] Maharishi Honey

2008-09-27 Thread Rick Archer
Help Sell/Popularize Maharishi Honey TODAY

Go go Youtube, the #3 most popular website in the World
http://www.youtube.com  http://www.youtube.com/ http://www.youtube.com/
/

Then go to this video link below and comment: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q7ffGdfbqs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q7ffGdfbqs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q7ffGdfbqs 

Sign up, only takes a few minutes, to comment.

This will put world attention on this video and Maharishi Honey.

Millions of people go to this website everyday, and the ranking of this
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popular our dear honey.

Help it show up on Youtube's ranking as the MOST VIEWED and MOST COMMENTED
for today, or this month..

Someone has put this video on this most popular site, so let's take
advantage of this opportunity to comment and make this a huge international
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Just going to the video and starting to watch will hugely push up its
ranking.

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Please, let's forward this to our friends.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Sarah Silverman Will Blame the Jews If Obama Loses

2008-09-27 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Sarah Silverman is so convinced Florida's Jewish vote will tip the
 election in Barack Obama's favor that she's joined
 http://www.thegreatschlep.com/site/index.html  a campaign called The
 Great Schlep. The campaign pushes young Heebs to visit their
 grandparents in Florida and educate them about the Democratic candidate,
 thereby saving the country from another Broward County nightmare, a la
 2000.
 
 Silverman outlines all the reasons Jews should vote for Obama in the
 video below, including the fact that Barack means lightning in
 Hebrew, while John is just another word for toilet
 

That's kinda weird! The Finnish version of 'George', namely
'Yrjö' [sic; pronounce ~ ueryoe], is just another word for 'puke'!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Flash Flaws -- Any Insights?

2008-09-27 Thread new . morning
Thanks. That may be the cause. It does seem more probable than Flash
getting corrupted every day. I will try it.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
 
  My Flash player gets easily corrupted (I know - its prolly the porn).
  But almost daily,  u-tube and other videos run on Flash stop playing.
  No sound. And usually the video just freezes. 
  
  The temp fix is to re-install Flash. Tht takes 10 seconds. But to do
  that, I have to shut donw Foxfire, And with 30 tabs open -- it does
  take some time  to reload. 
  
  So, not the biggest problem in the world -- but does anyone have
  similar experience -- and / or have a more permanent solution?
 
 The issue may not be related to Flash per se
 but to its sensitivity to available memory.
 The clue may be in your mention of 30 tabs
 open. Every time you open a tab, Firefox 
 assigns an area of memory to it; no other
 application can use that area of memory. And
 an interesting flaw in Firefox is that it
 doesn't release the memory when you close
 the tab; you have to exit from Firefox alto-
 gether to release all assigned memory. This
 is one of the things that Google's Chrome
 browser is supposed to fix.
 
 I could be completely off-base about this,
 but try exiting from Firefox periodically
 during the day and restarting it, and see if
 Flash continues to misbehave.





[FairfieldLife] Letter to NY Times

2008-09-27 Thread new . morning

Regarding:
Housing Help
by Chris Mayer
Published: September 26, 2008


I strongly disagree with Mayer's view that the first step to solve the
current financial crisis should be to reduce mortgage interest rates.
low interest rates have been the root of the crisis: a massive
lowering of interest rates and infusion of excess money into the
financial system. The result was not a mystery -- strong inflation in
the housing sector, a drastic overpricing of housing relative to
fundamentals, an over-investment in housing stock, and worst --
locking millions out of the housing market -- mostly have-nots --
young, first time buyers. Towards a solution is not to repeat the
cause of the crisis by lowering rates again. The solution will include
letting housing prices re-align with the fundamentals (income, rents
and mortgage costs) -- and opening the housing market to millions --
currentky shut out by policies that created  and are sustaing
massively mis-priced housing assets.


=== Article ===

Housing Help

By CHRIS MAYER
Published: September 26, 2008

At the heart of the financial crisis is an unprecedented decline in
house prices. Yet the government response so far has been to try to
prop up insolvent financial institutions while doing nothing about the
underlying housing problem. The proposed Wall Street bailout would not
stop the next wave of defaults, which are coming from the rapidly
rising delinquencies in near-prime mortgages.

The government needs to directly stabilize the housing market. This is
equivalent to treating the infection with antibiotics, instead of
applying a cold compress for the fever. Both the fever and the
infection need treating.

The first step should be to reduce mortgage interest rates. In a
normal mortgage market, rates are about 1.6 percentage points above
the interest rate for 10-year Treasury notes. Recently, the difference
has been closer to 2.5 percentage points.

The government is in a great position to cut rates by about a point:
Through Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Housing
Administration, it now controls nearly 90 percent of all mortgage
originations. These lower rates would apply to most home buyers who
take out a loan under $729,750 for a house that they will live in.

Along with lower rates, the government should provide temporary
down-payment assistance for buyers. The government could, for example,
match the amount of money that buyers use for a down payment, up to
$15,000. Because the government now controls the bulk of all mortgage
financing, this money could be provided directly at closing.
Homeowners who refinance their current mortgages could also receive
assistance, allowing them to avoid foreclosure.

Programs like these would draw buyers into the housing market and
reduce the backlog of unsold and vacant homes. Investors and
speculators would be ineligible and would face the full cost of their
mistakes.

By stabilizing house prices, these programs would benefit the bulk of
Americans, who own a home but did not get involved in the subprime
mortgage market. Price stability would more directly achieve the goals
of the Wall Street bailout: increase the value of mortgage-backed
securities (by increasing the value of the underlying houses) while
injecting government capital into the financial system.

Some in Congress have suggested allowing homeowners to go to
bankruptcy court to lower their mortgage payments. But this would only
make credit more expensive by reducing the willingness of companies to
lend money. It would also worsen the current problems by letting
bankruptcy judges reduce mortgage balances — imposing even greater
losses on the owners of the mortgages, whose problems are at the heart
of the financial crisis. Such a program would also be limited to only
the most indebted and, in some cases, financially irresponsible
homeowners.

Some might argue that propping up house prices is what got us into
this mess. But with the recent decline in house prices, my
calculations suggest that the cost of owning a home today, relative to
renting, is about 10 percent lower than its average over the past 20
years.

The credit crisis will not be over until house prices stop falling.
Direct assistance for home buyers and homeowners is the best, and the
fairest, way to make that happen.

Chris Mayer is a professor of real estate and the senior vice dean of
Columbia Business School.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Debate

2008-09-27 Thread Peter



--- On Sat, 9/27/08, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Debate
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 12:51 AM
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 mainstream20016
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu
 noozguru@ wrote:
  
   I thought McCain did better than I expected but
 that isn't saying
 much.  
   Notice how self-centered he was always bringing
 it back to himself 
   whereas Obama discussed issue more objectively,
 more the next 
   president etc.  Clearly I see that Obama
 won the debate but this
 isn't 
   really a football game and the debate tends to
 serve the purpose of 
   educating the public (who aren't political
 junkies like so many of
 us) 
   as to the candidates take on the issues.  McCain
 is definitely beyond 
   his prime and was a fool for ever accepting (or
 being forced into)
 the 
   nomination. 
   
   I was watching on CNN and they had a meter which
 monitored the
 reactions 
   from Republicans, Democrats and Independents. 
 The Independents
 tended 
   to follow along with the Democrats.  The
 Republicans however often 
   didn't react like you might have expected to
 McCain though the
 meter did 
   tend to follow expected partisan reactions.  But
 when McCain
 failed on 
   his delivery the meter went down even with
 Republicans.
   
   What are other's take?
  
  
  
  This was the 'Foreign Policy' themed debate,
 yet it was forty
 minutes into the debate 
  before foreign policy was discussed, so the  McCain 
 advantage
 related to Foreign Policy 
  was not fully exercised.  Obama did much to dispel the
 conventional
 wisdom that Dems 
  are weak. 
  
  Barak established that he is willing to pursue
 military solutions
 that go beyond what 
  McCain is willing to pursue - for  example, McCain was
 critical of
 Obama's earlier-stated 
  willingness to unilaterally enter Pakistan to pursue
 AlQaeda
 leaders, and McCain 
  complained that Pakistanis would object to unilateral
 U.S. military
 actions in Pakistan, 
  which would further weaken the current U.S-backed 
 (puppet) leader
 of Pakistan.  Obama 
  was clear, concise, and focused in his assertion that
 he would
 militarily intervene to 
  eradicate AlQaeda.  I think even the most
 'war-like' Americans were
 likely surprised by 
  Obama's tough talk.
  McCain was good at tugging at the heartstrings of
 lovers of the
 military with his anecdotes 
  of his interactions with the troops and their
 dedication to the
 cause
 
 Good observation, only it was genuine!!  McCain is genuine!
 A real man
 of experience and character. And yes, I'm a lover of
 the military!! 
 Some of the greatest men and woman on the planet.

What, Obama is a false man? Please. Any inclination to vote for McCain left 
when he selected Palin. She is an absolute moron.





 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Honey

2008-09-27 Thread new . morning
Clear evidence that M Honey and/or TMO programs cause (massive)
magical thinking.

Yea, like this 1950's level sappy ad is going to get to get on most
viewed list. Unless its viewed as a cautionary tale Mother's don't
let your kids grow up to be siddhas



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Help Sell/Popularize Maharishi Honey TODAY
 
 Go go Youtube, the #3 most popular website in the World
 http://www.youtube.com  http://www.youtube.com/
http://www.youtube.com/
 /
 
 Then go to this video link below and comment: 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q7ffGdfbqs
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q7ffGdfbqs
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q7ffGdfbqs 
 
 Sign up, only takes a few minutes, to comment.
 
 This will put world attention on this video and Maharishi Honey.
 
 Millions of people go to this website everyday, and the ranking of this
 video will soar and it will create a huge buzz for selling and making
 popular our dear honey.
 
 Help it show up on Youtube's ranking as the MOST VIEWED and MOST
COMMENTED
 for today, or this month..
 
 Someone has put this video on this most popular site, so let's take
 advantage of this opportunity to comment and make this a huge
international
 event on the internetif we work together we can do this.
 
 Just going to the video and starting to watch will hugely push up its
 ranking.
 
 (The honey website is: maharishihoney.com)
 
 Please, let's forward this to our friends.





[FairfieldLife] Re: The Debate

2008-09-27 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Any inclination to vote for McCain left when he selected Palin. She
is an absolute moron.
 

Does that mean she has obtained an absolute body?





[FairfieldLife] Re: How did Secretary Paulson come to the $700 Billion bailout amount?

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- On Thu, 9/25/08, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It's not based on any particular data point,
  a Treasury spokeswoman told Forbes.com Tuesday.
  We just wanted to choose a really large number.
  
  http://www.forbes.com/home/2008/09/23/bailout-paulson-congress-
biz-beltway-cx_jz_bw_0923bailout.html
  
  or: http://tinyurl.com/3fc92x
  
  Good God!!!  Those clowns are in charge of the 
  financial interests of the American people??? 
 
 I just heard the same on the news driving home.
 What a bunch of clowns. Picked right out of the
 air. At least they'll only get 1/3 of it before 
 President Obama has a say in what to do with the
 rest.

Good GRIEF, you people are uninformed. Haven't
you been reading anything at all about this?

OF COURSE it's not based on some data point.
How *could* it be? Do you not have *any* idea of
what its purpose is?

Essentially, they did indeed pick a number out
of the air, but that's a feature, not a bug. 
This isn't a situation in which, if a bunch of
experts just sat down and set to figuring, they
could come up with a more accurate number.

What they picked is a number they thought would
make it clear to all concerned that the gummint
has the biggest financial dick on the block and
*will be able* to do what it says it's going to
do. The plan won't work unless the financial
folks are confident the gummint is going to be
able to follow through.

So Paulson and Bernanke picked a number that they
thought would be well above the most it could
possibly cost--sort of like placing a bid on eBay.
If you're absolutely determined to win the auction,
you enter your top bid for significantly more than
you think anybody else would be willing to shell
out--a really large number--knowing you won't be
outbid, and that you'll most likely end up paying
well below that amount.

That's what the spokeswoman meant. Her phrasing,
of course, was jocular, possibly even a bit
sarcastic, since anybody who thinks the $700
billion was arrived at by some clever formula
hasn't been paying attention.

The clowns here are the people who would rather
bitch and moan and mock than make the effort to
inform themselves about the worst financial
crisis in a century.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Flash Flaws -- Any Insights?

2008-09-27 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 My Flash player gets easily corrupted (I know - its prolly the porn).
 But almost daily,  u-tube and other videos run on Flash stop playing.
 No sound. And usually the video just freezes. 

 The temp fix is to re-install Flash. Tht takes 10 seconds. But to do
 that, I have to shut donw Foxfire, And with 30 tabs open -- it does
 take some time  to reload. 

 So, not the biggest problem in the world -- but does anyone have
 similar experience -- and / or have a more permanent solution?
 

 The issue may not be related to Flash per se
 but to its sensitivity to available memory.
 The clue may be in your mention of 30 tabs
 open. Every time you open a tab, Firefox 
 assigns an area of memory to it; no other
 application can use that area of memory. And
 an interesting flaw in Firefox is that it
 doesn't release the memory when you close
 the tab; you have to exit from Firefox alto-
 gether to release all assigned memory. This
 is one of the things that Google's Chrome
 browser is supposed to fix.

 I could be completely off-base about this,
 but try exiting from Firefox periodically
 during the day and restarting it, and see if
 Flash continues to misbehave.
This is happening in Windows too?  It happens with Ubuntu but most 
people think it's a problem with Adobe being lazy about the Linux 
version.  I hadn't heard it was happening with Windows.  I installed an 
add-on called Flash Block in Firefox which keeps Flash videos from 
opening automatically.  This helped a lot.  It displays an icon where 
the Flash object, such as a video, is supposed to be and you can click 
on it if you want see it.  This has been saving me a lot of lockups 
though it can still happen if I watch a video or listen to streaming audio.



[FairfieldLife] Swami in The Hood with the Homies

2008-09-27 Thread pranamoocher
From Today's LA Times:
The homies in The Hood get a hint of holistic hospitality.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-swami27-2008sep27,0,3042153.stor\
y?page=1






[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Paul Newman

2008-09-27 Thread pranamoocher
One of my all time faves.
Wasn't PN reputed to have learned TM in the 70's and does anyone know if
he was still practicing?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 WESTPORT, Conn. - Paul Newman, the Academy-Award
 winning superstar who personified cool as the
 anti-hero of such films as Hud, Cool Hand Luke
 and The Color of Money — and as an activist,
 race car driver and popcorn impresario — has died.
 He was 83.

 Newman died Friday after a long battle with cancer
 at his farmhouse near Westport, publicist Jeff
 Sanderson said. He was surrounded by his family
 and close friends.

 More here:

 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obit_newman


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr0IeZXtMrA

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYqwYrbwHeM

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qCPhah8ojQ

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=730Q-baXOhE




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How one lone guy in front of a computer may change the election

2008-09-27 Thread Bhairitu
shempmcgurk wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

 Sheesh Shemp, you wouldn't know a good video if it bit you on the 
 
 ass.  
   
 I've seen good videos done by the other side but this isn't one of 
 them.  It is an amateurish piece of crap. 
 




 But that's the beauty of it: he is OBVIOUSLY an amateur and yet he 
 put something together that is so powerful.
   
Communications is a skill and that author has none.  Here's a better one 
for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-F89sIDDVI




[FairfieldLife] Polls: Who did better in the debate? Obama by far

2008-09-27 Thread do.rflex


CBS Insta Poll shows Barack Obama won 39% to John McCain's 25% with
36% saying the debate was a draw.

Insider Advantage reports those polled Obama won 42% to McCain's 41%
with Undecided 17%

CNN reports voter opinions that Obama did better 51%, McCain did
better 38%

The CNN poll showed men were evenly split, but women gave Obama higher
marks 59% to 41% for McCain.

More here: http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2208



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Debate

2008-09-27 Thread Bhairitu
Rick Archer wrote:
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of BillyG.
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 11:03 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Debate

  

 I would say McCain had Obama up against the ropes at least once and
 Obama was wincing. The difference between Obama and McCain, is the
 difference between a *wannabe* and an *is*, what a difference! Obama
 made a good showing though clearly was the more inexperienced man on
 the stage!

 He clearly looked dejected at the end of the debate, you could see how
 deflated he was, he knew he lost the debate though he had a strong start!

 All but one of the 6 CNN commentators (Bill Bennett) gave the win to Obama,
 most by a pretty wide margin.
Bill Bennett looks like he's been really chowin' down these days.  :-D


[FairfieldLife] The Whores of Congress

2008-09-27 Thread new . morning
Most members of Congress are whores of the housing industry -- and
their own investments. Candid interviews have revealed that in private
discussions on whether to the maintain housing interest deductibility
 -- most representatives and senators quickly do a calc in their head
to see how much it will hurt them personally. A clear conflict of
interest. 

In the current debate on the financial crises, few if anyone is
talking about -- as part of the solution -- letting housing prices
fall to levels consistent with its underlying fundamentals -- that is,
the ratio of income to mortgage costs (affordability) and monthly
total homeowner costs to rents. 

Its hard to imagine that John McCain does not think about the value of
his 13 homes when considering solution paths to the current financial
crises. As most in Congress are doing -- thinking about the value of
their own inflated homes -- and supporting policies that will support
the inflated prices of their homes. A clear conflict of interest. 

Some have argued that to solve the current financial crisis the gov't
should ease credit to reduce mortgage interest rates. This is
pandering, self-serving economic policy. 

Low interest rates have been the root of the crisis: a massive
lowering of interest rates and infusion of excess money into the
financial system. The result was not a mystery -- strong inflation in
the housing sector, a drastic overpricing of housing relative to
fundamentals, an over-investment in housing stock, and worst --
locking millions out of the housing market -- mostly have-nots --
young, first time buyers. 

A path to cultivating health in the housing and financial markets is
not to repeat the cause of the crisis by lowering rates again. The
solution will include letting housing prices re-align with the
fundamentals (income, rents and mortgage costs) -- and opening the
housing market to millions -- currently shut out by policies that
created  and are sustaining massively mis-priced housing assets.





[FairfieldLife] Re: How did Secretary Paulson come to the $700 Billion bailout amount?

2008-09-27 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- On Thu, 9/25/08, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
  
   It's not based on any particular data point,
   a Treasury spokeswoman told Forbes.com Tuesday.
   We just wanted to choose a really large number.
   
   http://www.forbes.com/home/2008/09/23/bailout-paulson-congress-
 biz-beltway-cx_jz_bw_0923bailout.html
   
   or: http://tinyurl.com/3fc92x
   
   Good God!!!  Those clowns are in charge of the 
   financial interests of the American people??? 
  
  I just heard the same on the news driving home.
  What a bunch of clowns. Picked right out of the
  air. At least they'll only get 1/3 of it before 
  President Obama has a say in what to do with the
  rest.
 
 Good GRIEF, you people are uninformed. Haven't
 you been reading anything at all about this?
 
 OF COURSE it's not based on some data point.
 How *could* it be? Do you not have *any* idea of
 what its purpose is?
 
 Essentially, they did indeed pick a number out
 of the air, but that's a feature, not a bug. 
 This isn't a situation in which, if a bunch of
 experts just sat down and set to figuring, they
 could come up with a more accurate number.
 
 What they picked is a number they thought would
 make it clear to all concerned that the gummint
 has the biggest financial dick on the block and
 *will be able* to do what it says it's going to
 do. The plan won't work unless the financial
 folks are confident the gummint is going to be
 able to follow through.

Which was Paulson's exact strategy in securing the funds bail out
Fannie and Freddie to be used ONLY AS a LAST RESORT.  His whole theory
was that having the big stick ()and not having to blow the wad) would
calm the markets. It did the opposite. It accelerated the demise of
FF. Paulson I am sure is a bright guy -- but he has clearly been
wrong on his prior solutions. He is winging it. He has lost most of
his credibility. His 700 mil big stick will accelerate not mitigate
the problem.

Krugman -- and others -- have a far more sane approach in solving the
debt to capital ratios that underly this crisis.  Increase the capital
portion of the equation by buying 20% + stakes in the ailing
companies. At current, or negotiated lower than, (stock) market
prices. debt ratios ill decrease, no illiquid MBSs, and a strong
equity stake in the recovering financial companies.   (Schumer's
warrants proposals as tacked onto the current plan has promise -- but
will probably be only a pittance. And hard to value or size correctly.  





 
 So Paulson and Bernanke picked a number that they
 thought would be well above the most it could
 possibly cost--sort of like placing a bid on eBay.
 If you're absolutely determined to win the auction,
 you enter your top bid for significantly more than
 you think anybody else would be willing to shell
 out--a really large number--knowing you won't be
 outbid, and that you'll most likely end up paying
 well below that amount.
 
 That's what the spokeswoman meant. Her phrasing,
 of course, was jocular, possibly even a bit
 sarcastic, since anybody who thinks the $700
 billion was arrived at by some clever formula
 hasn't been paying attention.
 
 The clowns here are the people who would rather
 bitch and moan and mock than make the effort to
 inform themselves about the worst financial
 crisis in a century.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Flash Flaws -- Any Insights?

2008-09-27 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 TurquoiseB wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:

  My Flash player gets easily corrupted (I know - its prolly the porn).
  But almost daily,  u-tube and other videos run on Flash stop playing.
  No sound. And usually the video just freezes. 
 
  The temp fix is to re-install Flash. Tht takes 10 seconds. But to do
  that, I have to shut donw Foxfire, And with 30 tabs open -- it does
  take some time  to reload. 
 
  So, not the biggest problem in the world -- but does anyone have
  similar experience -- and / or have a more permanent solution?
  
 
  The issue may not be related to Flash per se
  but to its sensitivity to available memory.
  The clue may be in your mention of 30 tabs
  open. Every time you open a tab, Firefox 
  assigns an area of memory to it; no other
  application can use that area of memory. And
  an interesting flaw in Firefox is that it
  doesn't release the memory when you close
  the tab; you have to exit from Firefox alto-
  gether to release all assigned memory. This
  is one of the things that Google's Chrome
  browser is supposed to fix.
 
  I could be completely off-base about this,
  but try exiting from Firefox periodically
  during the day and restarting it, and see if
  Flash continues to misbehave.
 This is happening in Windows too? 

Yes, -- I am using Vista Home Premium.

And while I am at it -- another Windows or perhaps Bios problem):

I have accumulated a lot of USB hubs -- daisy chained and direct
connects to my motherboard 4 ports. The 4 slot Kingston hubs lock up 
the boot sequence. I have to unplug them, boot up, replug them -- and
then wait 5 min while Vista sorts out the new hardware. How lame.  

Anyone have similar problems and/or solutions.


It happens with Ubuntu but most 
 people think it's a problem with Adobe being lazy about the Linux 
 version.  I hadn't heard it was happening with Windows.  I installed an 
 add-on called Flash Block in Firefox which keeps Flash videos from 
 opening automatically.  This helped a lot.  It displays an icon where 
 the Flash object, such as a video, is supposed to be and you can click 
 on it if you want see it.  This has been saving me a lot of lockups 
 though it can still happen if I watch a video or listen to streaming
audio.





[FairfieldLife] Add'l MP3's of Maharishi

2008-09-27 Thread Dick Mays

Just received from another friend:  Additional MP3 files of Maharishi:

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Paul Newman

2008-09-27 Thread Peter
Paul Newman lived in the town next to mine. I used to see him from time to time 
in downtown Westport. It was always so cool to see this bigtime movie star just 
cruisin' along. His acting got so good in his later movies. RIP Bro'

--- On Sat, 9/27/08, pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Paul Newman
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 12:52 PM









One of my all time faves.
Wasn't PN reputed to have learned TM in the 70's and does anyone know if he was 
still practicing?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 WESTPORT, Conn. - Paul Newman, the Academy-Award
 winning superstar who personified cool as the
 anti-hero of such films as Hud, Cool Hand Luke
 and The Color of Money — and as an activist,
 race car driver and popcorn impresario — has died.
 He was 83. 
 
 Newman died Friday after a long battle with cancer
 at his farmhouse near Westport, publicist Jeff
 Sanderson said. He was surrounded by his family
 and close friends.
 
 More here:
 
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obit_newman
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr0IeZXtMrA
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYqwYrbwHeM
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qCPhah8ojQ
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=730Q-baXOhE








  

[FairfieldLife] Ed Schultz: McCain Camp insiders say Palin clueless

2008-09-27 Thread do.rflex


Capitol Hill sources are telling me that senior McCain people are more
than concerned about Palin.

The campaign has held a mock debate and a mock press conference; both
are being described as disastrous. One senior McCain aide was quoted
as saying, What are we going to do? The McCain people want to move
this first debate to some later, undetermined date, possibly never.
People on the inside are saying the Alaska Governor is clueless.

~~  Ed Schultz
http://www.bigeddieradio.com/ 



[FairfieldLife] Paul Newman's Last Race?

2008-09-27 Thread do.rflex


Letterman appearance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRg7UpSxO5g



Re: [FairfieldLife] Ed Schultz: McCain Camp insiders say Palin clueless

2008-09-27 Thread Louis McKenzie
I was talking to President Obama on the phone the other day and he said that 
one of his most favorable people in the campaigne was a guy from Iowa by the 
name of Dennis.

--- On Sat, 9/27/08, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ed Schultz:  McCain Camp insiders say Palin clueless
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 2:52 PM


Capitol Hill sources are telling me that senior McCain people are more
than concerned about Palin.

The campaign has held a mock debate and a mock press conference; both
are being described as disastrous. One senior McCain aide was
quoted
as saying, What are we going to do? The McCain people want to move
this first debate to some later, undetermined date, possibly never.
People on the inside are saying the Alaska Governor is clueless.

~~  Ed Schultz
http://www.bigeddieradio.com/ 




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[FairfieldLife] F*cking A Theist

2008-09-27 Thread new . morning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU6vAjoPxbUNR=1






[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Honey

2008-09-27 Thread shempmcgurk


I can't think of anything that more clearly symbolizes the utter failure
of the TM Movement than Maharishi Organic Vedic Honey.





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, svambhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Maharishi Honey
 Delicious, Nourishing, Vedic Organic Honey

 The perfect gift at this time of year.

 We are delighted to introduce our especially nourishing, pure,
unheated, untreated blossom honey, produced by the bees of Brazil in
virgin, unpolluted forests and lands enhanced by Vedic farming
technologies.




 for more info, go to:
 http://www.maharishihoney.com





Re: [FairfieldLife] Ed Schultz: McCain Camp insiders say Palin clueless

2008-09-27 Thread Peter
Palin reminds me of some of my community college students. She's not used to 
thinking in a logical sequence and linking concepts together. She also isn't 
used to explaining ideas beyond a mere label or a buzz-word marker. This 
doesn't mean that she doesn't have ideas, its just that she is not used to 
articulating them. Add this to performance anxiety plus attempting to integrate 
talking points and you have the PR disaster that she is. Forgetting about 
politics, it is pretty sad that any party would elevate such a limited thinker 
to such a position. She obviously was not vetted. I'd love to be a fly on the 
wall with some of McCain's top people trying to figure out what to do with her. 
I actually feel sorry for her. She is so out of her depth. 


--- On Sat, 9/27/08, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ed Schultz:  McCain Camp insiders say Palin 
 clueless
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 1:52 PM
 Capitol Hill sources are telling me that senior McCain
 people are more
 than concerned about Palin.
 
 The campaign has held a mock debate and a mock press
 conference; both
 are being described as disastrous. One senior
 McCain aide was quoted
 as saying, What are we going to do? The McCain
 people want to move
 this first debate to some later, undetermined date,
 possibly never.
 People on the inside are saying the Alaska Governor is
 clueless.
 
 ~~  Ed Schultz
 http://www.bigeddieradio.com/ 
 
 
 
 
 To subscribe, send a message to:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Or go to: 
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[FairfieldLife] Sarah Palin Disney Trailer

2008-09-27 Thread Bhairitu
http://www.collegehumor.com/moogaloop/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=1831461



[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Honey

2008-09-27 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



 I can't think of anything that more clearly symbolizes the utter
failure
 of the TM Movement than Maharishi Organic Vedic Honey.


I Can.

OffWorld






[FairfieldLife] Re: Polls: Who did better in the debate? Obama by far

2008-09-27 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



 CBS Insta Poll shows Barack Obama won 39% to John McCain's 25% with
 36% saying the debate was a draw.

 Insider Advantage reports those polled Obama won 42% to McCain's 41%
 with Undecided 17%

 CNN reports voter opinions that Obama did better 51%, McCain did
 better 38%

 The CNN poll showed men were evenly split, but women gave Obama higher
 marks 59% to 41% for McCain.

 More here: http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2208
http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2208



But Fox News reported before the debate occured, that McCain won a mile
in the polls taken after the debate.

OffWorld



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Flash Flaws -- Any Insights?

2008-09-27 Thread Bhairitu
new.morning wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 TurquoiseB wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
   
   
 My Flash player gets easily corrupted (I know - its prolly the porn).
 But almost daily,  u-tube and other videos run on Flash stop playing.
 No sound. And usually the video just freezes. 

 The temp fix is to re-install Flash. Tht takes 10 seconds. But to do
 that, I have to shut donw Foxfire, And with 30 tabs open -- it does
 take some time  to reload. 

 So, not the biggest problem in the world -- but does anyone have
 similar experience -- and / or have a more permanent solution?
 
 
 The issue may not be related to Flash per se
 but to its sensitivity to available memory.
 The clue may be in your mention of 30 tabs
 open. Every time you open a tab, Firefox 
 assigns an area of memory to it; no other
 application can use that area of memory. And
 an interesting flaw in Firefox is that it
 doesn't release the memory when you close
 the tab; you have to exit from Firefox alto-
 gether to release all assigned memory. This
 is one of the things that Google's Chrome
 browser is supposed to fix.

 I could be completely off-base about this,
 but try exiting from Firefox periodically
 during the day and restarting it, and see if
 Flash continues to misbehave.
   
 This is happening in Windows too? 
 

 Yes, -- I am using Vista Home Premium.

 And while I am at it -- another Windows or perhaps Bios problem):

 I have accumulated a lot of USB hubs -- daisy chained and direct
 connects to my motherboard 4 ports. The 4 slot Kingston hubs lock up 
 the boot sequence. I have to unplug them, boot up, replug them -- and
 then wait 5 min while Vista sorts out the new hardware. How lame.  

 Anyone have similar problems and/or solutions.
   
I assume you Google'd this problem?  It came up with a lot of articles 
and discussions.  If this is an older hub you might might check the 
Kingston site for a newer driver.  People say some older hubs don't work 
with Vista.   Vista is such a mess.   I still need to go through the 
boot and eliminate as much unnecessary stuff so that it doesn't take 6 
minutes to use.   I even need to do that with my XP machines too.  This 
machine which uses Ubuntu is ready to go in 1 minute.



[FairfieldLife] Republicans want to screw you out of your home

2008-09-27 Thread Bhairitu
We know that Republicans like to screw around a lot and apparently they 
want to screw the homeowners on the bailout.  Seems that the showstopper 
for them in the bailout bill is an item that would allow judges to 
rewrite mortgages to help homeowners prevent foreclosure:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080926/ap_on_bi_ge/financial_meltdown_1146

The Dems would do well to use this against the Republicans as a talking 
point.  Of course I'm for not passing the bill period which would take 
down much of the wealthy 1%.

In other news the senate passed a big bailout for the government so that 
Bush can  keep playing war god until President Obama takes office:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26915459/






[FairfieldLife] Re: Ed Schultz: McCain Camp insiders say Palin clueless

2008-09-27 Thread Robert
 (snip)

 I actually feel sorry for her. She is so out of her depth. 
  (snip)
I don't think she's deserves any pity.
She'll just probably go back to Alaska, and take out her aggression on 
some poor helpless wolf, who she will shoot with her high-powered 
rifle from an airplane.
This woman is dangerously passive agressive.
And I really don't care what she looks like in a swim suit.
That my friends is not a qualification for leading the free world.
R.G.



[FairfieldLife] Pirates of Somalia

2008-09-27 Thread John
To All:

These renegades are clearly out of their league.  They're asking for 
a major retribution from the Russian Navy.  Do they really think the 
Russians will pay $35 million of ransom for the hijacked ship?

***

Pirates Seek $35 Million for Ship 
 
By JEFFREY GETTLEMAN
Published: September 27, 2008 
NAIROBI, Kenya — Somali pirates in a hijacked ship carrying more than 
30 battle tanks were steaming toward a notorious pirate den on 
Saturday, and they vowed not to release the ship until a $35 million 
ransom was paid, Somali and Kenyan officials said.

Skip to next paragraph 
Related
Somalia Pirates Capture Tanks and Global Notice (September 27, 2008) 
According to Mohamed Osman Aden, a Somali diplomat in Kenya, the 
Ukrainian-owned vessel was headed to Xarardheere, on the barren 
Somali coast. Xarardheere is an isolated fishing village that has 
thrived on organized crime and has frequently been used as a pirate 
hide-out.

Mr. Mohamed said that while the cargo in this case was extremely 
unusual — 33 Soviet-designed T-72 tanks and a large supply of 
ammunition and grenade launchers, all intended for the Kenyan 
military — the tactics were pretty typical.

These guys just want the money, he said.

He predicted that the pirates would reduce their ransom demand to $1 
million to $2 million, though Ukrainian officials have not said 
whether they will pay any ransom at all. 

The Kenyan government said in a statement on Saturday that it does 
not and will not negotiate with international criminals, pirates and 
terrorists and will endeavor to recover the hijacked ship and 
military cargo.

American warships in the Indian Ocean were closely tracking the ship, 
and a Russian frigate, the Dauntless, was on its way. 

Diplomats in Kenya said Saturday that military operations involving 
several countries were being discussed but that the plan was to wait 
a few days before considering a strike. 

The hijacked ship's crew is mostly Ukrainian, and already worried 
family members have contacted the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry asking 
what they can do.

The hijacking occurred on Thursday evening when pirates in three 
speedboats attacked the Ukrainian cargo ship, the Faina, which was in 
Somali waters about 200 miles from shore, en route to Kenya. 

On Friday, Kenyan and Ukrainian officials disclosed that the ship was 
loaded with 2,320 tons of weapons. Many diplomats in Kenya are 
concerned that the arms could fall into the hands of insurgents 
fighting Somalia's transitional government and pitch war-torn Somalia 
deeper into chaos.

The pirates, however, are not expected to be able to do much with the 
T-72 tanks because each weighs more than 80,000 pounds. Western 
diplomats have said that the pirates do not have the special 
equipment or the skill to get the tanks ashore.

But the tanks — and the jitters they have caused — may be used for 
leverage to increase the ransom. Andrew Mwangura, program coordinator 
for the Seafarers' Assistance Program in Kenya, which tracks pirate 
attacks, said that the pirates had demanded $35 million through 
intermediaries and that they were trying to contact the ship's owners.

They even have someone who speaks English, he said.

Piracy in lawless Somalia is a highly organized, lucrative, ransom-
driven business. This year has been one of the worst on record, with 
more than 50 ships attacked, 25 hijacked and about a dozen currently 
being held by pirates. On Saturday, pirates released two ships they 
had recently seized, one Japanese and the other Malaysian, Mr. 
Mwangura said.

In both cases, ransoms were paid, he said, though it was difficult 
on Saturday to confirm this.

The price, Mr. Mwangura said, was $2 million each.








[FairfieldLife] Re: Ed Schultz: McCain Camp insiders say Palin clueless

2008-09-27 Thread feste37
I don't feel sorry for her in the least. She is trying to con the
American people into thinking she is capable of representing them.
It's arrogant in the extreme. It never occurs to her that her own
ignorance disqualifies her. 

The best thing about the interview with Katie Couric is Katie's face
as Palin talks her nonsense. It's as if she can barely believe the
stupidity of the woman. Best comment today was from Bob Herbert in the
New York Times, who said the interview, especially one portion of it
he quoted, was like a Monty Python sketch. Palin is making a fool of
herself but she doesn't realize it. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Palin reminds me of some of my community college students. She's not
used to thinking in a logical sequence and linking concepts together.
She also isn't used to explaining ideas beyond a mere label or a
buzz-word marker. This doesn't mean that she doesn't have ideas, its
just that she is not used to articulating them. Add this to
performance anxiety plus attempting to integrate talking points and
you have the PR disaster that she is. Forgetting about politics, it is
pretty sad that any party would elevate such a limited thinker to such
a position. She obviously was not vetted. I'd love to be a fly on the
wall with some of McCain's top people trying to figure out what to do
with her. I actually feel sorry for her. She is so out of her depth. 
 
 
 --- On Sat, 9/27/08, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  From: do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ed Schultz:  McCain Camp insiders say
Palin clueless
  To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 1:52 PM
  Capitol Hill sources are telling me that senior McCain
  people are more
  than concerned about Palin.
  
  The campaign has held a mock debate and a mock press
  conference; both
  are being described as disastrous. One senior
  McCain aide was quoted
  as saying, What are we going to do? The McCain
  people want to move
  this first debate to some later, undetermined date,
  possibly never.
  People on the inside are saying the Alaska Governor is
  clueless.
  
  ~~  Ed Schultz
  http://www.bigeddieradio.com/ 
  
  
  
  
  To subscribe, send a message to:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Or go to: 
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
  and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Republicans want to screw you out of your home

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We know that Republicans like to screw around a lot and
 apparently they want to screw the homeowners on the bailout.
 Seems that the showstopper for them in the bailout bill is
 an item that would allow judges to rewrite mortgages to help 
 homeowners prevent foreclosure:

This would apply only to homeowners who file for
bankruptcy, BTW.


 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080926/ap_on_bi_ge/financial_meltdown_114
6
 
 The Dems would do well to use this against the Republicans as a 
talking 
 point.  Of course I'm for not passing the bill period which would 
take 
 down much of the wealthy 1%.
 
 In other news the senate passed a big bailout for the government so 
that 
 Bush can  keep playing war god until President Obama takes office:
 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26915459/





[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit

2008-09-27 Thread Robert
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
 
   (snip) 
   Using shame (shame of being female, shame of being
   racist) rather than offering benefit is a tactic that
   may intimidate some, and perhaps win some over who
   would rather be part of the pack that attacks than
   one who is attacked, but mostly it engenders
   resentment.

   (snip)
  The really ironic thing her is that her husband Bill Clinton 
shamed 
  Hillary more than anyone else could.
 
 Uh, Robert, that would be a big fat non sequitur.

I kind of knew you wouldn't know what to do with that insight.
You remember, when Billy Bob got caught with his pants down,
that Hillary became a big heroine...how strong this woman is to put 
up with the sh-t her husband dished out to her.
I read that the Secret service had to pull her off when she was 
throwing vases at him, during this adulterous, lieing incident.
She once told Bill, that she needed to get laid more than twice a 
year.
R.G.
 
 Sorry you can't come up with a better response.





[FairfieldLife] Re: F*cking A Theist

2008-09-27 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU6vAjoPxbUNR=1


The narrator is fairly good looking.  I thought she was going to take 
off her clothes.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ed Schultz: McCain Camp insiders say Palin clueless

2008-09-27 Thread Peter
By the way, all this talk about her shooting is bullshit. I saw a video of her 
in Kuwait handling a M-16 and it was very obvious that she had never held, let 
alone shot a rifle before.


--- On Sat, 9/27/08, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ed Schultz:  McCain Camp insiders say Palin 
 clueless
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, September 27, 2008, 3:16 PM
 (snip)
 
  I actually feel sorry for her. She is so out of her depth.
 
   (snip)
 I don't think she's deserves any pity.
 She'll just probably go back to Alaska, and take out
 her aggression on 
 some poor helpless wolf, who she will shoot with her
 high-powered 
 rifle from an airplane.
 This woman is dangerously passive agressive.
 And I really don't care what she looks like in a swim
 suit.
 That my friends is not a qualification for leading the free
 world.
 R.G.
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ed Schultz: McCain Camp insiders say Palin clueless

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't feel sorry for her in the least. She is trying to con the
 American people into thinking she is capable of representing them.
 It's arrogant in the extreme. It never occurs to her that her own
 ignorance disqualifies her.

Actually it's McCain and his people who are
trying to con us. They conned *her* into
thinking she was qualified, and she believed
them. She's no more arrogant than any other
politician; she just didn't have enough
exposure to  national politics to realize
what she was getting into. 

I'm with Peter; I feel sorry for her. She got
in way, way over her head, or rather McCain
threw her in way over her head for what he
thought would be his own political advantage.
And it was, to start with. Now it's turning
into a disaster.






 
 The best thing about the interview with Katie Couric is Katie's face
 as Palin talks her nonsense. It's as if she can barely believe the
 stupidity of the woman. Best comment today was from Bob Herbert in 
the
 New York Times, who said the interview, especially one portion of it
 he quoted, was like a Monty Python sketch. Palin is making a fool of
 herself but she doesn't realize it. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
 
  Palin reminds me of some of my community college students. She's 
not
 used to thinking in a logical sequence and linking concepts 
together.
 She also isn't used to explaining ideas beyond a mere label or a
 buzz-word marker. This doesn't mean that she doesn't have ideas, its
 just that she is not used to articulating them. Add this to
 performance anxiety plus attempting to integrate talking points and
 you have the PR disaster that she is. Forgetting about politics, it 
is
 pretty sad that any party would elevate such a limited thinker to 
such
 a position. She obviously was not vetted. I'd love to be a fly on 
the
 wall with some of McCain's top people trying to figure out what to 
do
 with her. I actually feel sorry for her. She is so out of her 
depth. 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Using shame vs. offering benefit

2008-09-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ 
wrote:
  
(snip) 
Using shame (shame of being female, shame of being
racist) rather than offering benefit is a tactic that
may intimidate some, and perhaps win some over who
would rather be part of the pack that attacks than
one who is attacked, but mostly it engenders
resentment.
 
(snip)
   The really ironic thing her is that her husband Bill
   Clinton shamed Hillary more than anyone else could.
  
  Uh, Robert, that would be a big fat non sequitur.
 
 I kind of knew you wouldn't know what to do with that insight.

There was no insight there, Robert. It was a
random thought that had no connection to the
points Anglachel was making.



 You remember, when Billy Bob got caught with his pants down,
 that Hillary became a big heroine...how strong this woman is to put 
 up with the sh-t her husband dished out to her.
 I read that the Secret service had to pull her off when she was 
 throwing vases at him, during this adulterous, lieing incident.
 She once told Bill, that she needed to get laid more than twice a 
 year.
 R.G.
  
  Sorry you can't come up with a better response.
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ed Schultz: McCain Camp insiders say Palin clueless

2008-09-27 Thread Sal Sunshine

On Sep 27, 2008, at 2:22 PM, feste37 wrote:


I don't feel sorry for her in the least. She is trying to con the
American people into thinking she is capable of representing them.
It's arrogant in the extreme. It never occurs to her that her own
ignorance disqualifies her.

The best thing about the interview with Katie Couric is Katie's face
as Palin talks her nonsense.


I noticed that too--the look on Couric's face was priceless.


It's as if she can barely believe the
stupidity of the woman. Best comment today was from Bob Herbert in the
New York Times, who said the interview, especially one portion of it
he quoted, was like a Monty Python sketch. Palin is making a fool of
herself but she doesn't realize it.


Sal




[FairfieldLife] Ukes for Obama!

2008-09-27 Thread cardemaister

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT5IGt7Wyh4

-- Blacks and Jews created tha Blues!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Honey

2008-09-27 Thread ruthsimplicity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, svambhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
   Maharishi Honey
   Delicious, Nourishing, Vedic Organic Honey
 
   The perfect gift at this time of year.
 
   We are delighted to introduce our especially nourishing, pure,
unheated, untreated blossom honey, produced by the bees of Brazil in
virgin, unpolluted forests and lands enhanced by Vedic farming
technologies.
 
  
 
 
 for more info, go to:
 http://www.maharishihoney.com

My  thoughts: 

1.  No song or even jingle should have the word physiology in it. 

2.  Interesting that they pronounce Maharishi the old fashioned way,
with four syllables. 

3.  Too pink. 








[FairfieldLife] Re: Ed Schultz: McCain Camp insiders say Palin clueless

2008-09-27 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
 
  I don't feel sorry for her in the least. She is trying to con the
  American people into thinking she is capable of representing them.
  It's arrogant in the extreme. It never occurs to her that her own
  ignorance disqualifies her.
 
 Actually it's McCain and his people who are
 trying to con us. They conned *her* into
 thinking she was qualified, and she believed
 them. She's no more arrogant than any other
 politician; she just didn't have enough
 exposure to  national politics to realize
 what she was getting into. 
 
 I'm with Peter; I feel sorry for her. She got
 in way, way over her head, or rather McCain
 threw her in way over her head for what he
 thought would be his own political advantage.
 And it was, to start with. Now it's turning
 into a disaster.


I expect that the McCain folks will have Palin pull out as the VP candidate, 
giving some 
excuse about needing to be with her family, newborn, whatever.  Then they will 
find 
someone else and hope for the best.   They cannot possibly think that Palin 
will work.  I 
think they will cancel the VP debate until they get a replacement for her.

I wonder if she gets how much she in over her head?  If she finally does, I 
feel sorry for 
her.  If she does not, then it is even essential that she be replaced.  Best 
thing she could 
do:  say she now realizes she is not qualified, and resign. She made a big 
mistake.
 
 
 
 
 
  
  The best thing about the interview with Katie Couric is Katie's face
  as Palin talks her nonsense. It's as if she can barely believe the
  stupidity of the woman. Best comment today was from Bob Herbert in 
 the
  New York Times, who said the interview, especially one portion of it
  he quoted, was like a Monty Python sketch. Palin is making a fool of
  herself but she doesn't realize it. 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
  
   Palin reminds me of some of my community college students. She's 
 not
  used to thinking in a logical sequence and linking concepts 
 together.
  She also isn't used to explaining ideas beyond a mere label or a
  buzz-word marker. This doesn't mean that she doesn't have ideas, its
  just that she is not used to articulating them. Add this to
  performance anxiety plus attempting to integrate talking points and
  you have the PR disaster that she is. Forgetting about politics, it 
 is
  pretty sad that any party would elevate such a limited thinker to 
 such
  a position. She obviously was not vetted. I'd love to be a fly on 
 the
  wall with some of McCain's top people trying to figure out what to 
 do
  with her. I actually feel sorry for her. She is so out of her 
 depth.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi Honey

2008-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My thoughts: 
 
 1. No song or even jingle should have the word physiology in it. 
 
 2. Interesting that they pronounce Maharishi the old fashioned 
 way, with four syllables. 
 
 3. Too pink.


My thoughts:

1. There are times when the olde misogynist saw
These women really, really, really need to get
laid is not only not misogynist, but the God's
honest truth.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Ed Schultz: McCain Camp insiders say Palin clueless

2008-09-27 Thread mainstream20016
Palin is an awful choice, yet many in the country have yet to realize it.  It's 
a bit early to 
write her political obit, as unless she blunders terribly, the Republican base 
will declare 
her the winner of  the upcoming VP debate.   




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote:
  
   I don't feel sorry for her in the least. She is trying to con the
   American people into thinking she is capable of representing them.
   It's arrogant in the extreme. It never occurs to her that her own
   ignorance disqualifies her.
  
  Actually it's McCain and his people who are
  trying to con us. They conned *her* into
  thinking she was qualified, and she believed
  them. She's no more arrogant than any other
  politician; she just didn't have enough
  exposure to  national politics to realize
  what she was getting into. 
  
  I'm with Peter; I feel sorry for her. She got
  in way, way over her head, or rather McCain
  threw her in way over her head for what he
  thought would be his own political advantage.
  And it was, to start with. Now it's turning
  into a disaster.
 
 
 I expect that the McCain folks will have Palin pull out as the VP candidate, 
 giving some 
 excuse about needing to be with her family, newborn, whatever.  Then they 
 will find 
 someone else and hope for the best.   They cannot possibly think that Palin 
 will work.  I 
 think they will cancel the VP debate until they get a replacement for her.
 
 I wonder if she gets how much she in over her head?  If she finally does, I 
 feel sorry for 
 her.  If she does not, then it is even essential that she be replaced.  Best 
 thing she could 
 do:  say she now realizes she is not qualified, and resign. She made a big 
 mistake.
  
  
  
  
  
   
   The best thing about the interview with Katie Couric is Katie's face
   as Palin talks her nonsense. It's as if she can barely believe the
   stupidity of the woman. Best comment today was from Bob Herbert in 
  the
   New York Times, who said the interview, especially one portion of it
   he quoted, was like a Monty Python sketch. Palin is making a fool of
   herself but she doesn't realize it. 
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
   
Palin reminds me of some of my community college students. She's 
  not
   used to thinking in a logical sequence and linking concepts 
  together.
   She also isn't used to explaining ideas beyond a mere label or a
   buzz-word marker. This doesn't mean that she doesn't have ideas, its
   just that she is not used to articulating them. Add this to
   performance anxiety plus attempting to integrate talking points and
   you have the PR disaster that she is. Forgetting about politics, it 
  is
   pretty sad that any party would elevate such a limited thinker to 
  such
   a position. She obviously was not vetted. I'd love to be a fly on 
  the
   wall with some of McCain's top people trying to figure out what to 
  do
   with her. I actually feel sorry for her. She is so out of her 
  depth.
 






[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Elitist McCain Couldn't Look at his Opponent'

2008-09-27 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mr. military didn't even have the guts or the humanly respect to even 
look at Senator Obama, in the debate last night.
 No wonder he doesn't want to talk to anyone who doesn't agree with 
him.
 He has the same dictatorial tendencies of Bush.
 We definitely don't need another Bush.
 No more Bush. No more elitist military madness.
 R.G.


***

There are cultural differences between blacks and whites when it comes 
to eye contact:

http://tinyurl.com/3nn996



[FairfieldLife] Re: RIP Paul Newman

2008-09-27 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 WESTPORT, Conn. - Paul Newman, the Academy-Award
 winning superstar who personified cool as the
 anti-hero of such films as Hud, Cool Hand Luke
 and The Color of Money — and as an activist,
 race car driver and popcorn impresario — has died.
 He was 83. 
 
 Newman died Friday after a long battle with cancer
 at his farmhouse near Westport, publicist Jeff
 Sanderson said. He was surrounded by his family
 and close friends.
 
 More here:
 
 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obit_newman
 
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr0IeZXtMrA
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYqwYrbwHeM
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qCPhah8ojQ
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=730Q-baXOhE




Paul learned TM, but when you downing a case of beer a day, hard to 
stick with the practice. His kid committed suicide in his 20s, also 
plagued with alcohol/polydrug abuse.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Obama's Baloney Bar

2008-09-27 Thread raunchydog
Obama's supporters thought they could simply wave the Roe v. Wade red
flag and hordes of panic stricken women for Hillary would stamped to
savior Obama. Well, that didn't work so the blogger boyz turned on
insult spigot and berated us for being stupid low information voters,
dead-ender, and closet racists. Apparently, they still haven't figured
out that bullying makes us dig in our heels even deeper. My vote is my
business. So hang your racist noose around your own damn neck. Rev.
Wright, speaks for me today, No, no, no, raunchydog ain't never been
called a racist! We all know how the DNC screwed Hillary and they
ain't never been sorry for it, so God Damn AmeriKKKa's DNC! Their
lyin', cheatin' and stealin' chickens are comin' to roost! 

Barack Obama's support from backers of Hillary Rodham Clinton is
stuck smack where it was in June, a poll showed Tuesday, a stunning
lack of progress that is weakening him with members of the Democratic
Party in the close presidential race. 9/23/08 http://tinyurl.com/4bbx69 

Huffington Post's fake attempt to trick Hillary's voters drips with
condescension and is just another excuse to insult Hillary's
supporters as well as Hillary. Maybe Obama can win without Hillary's
voters, but I doubt it. Meanwhile, Hillary's is in Michigan again
doing her best to drag Obama's sorry ass to the White House. It is
truly a thankless task given the legions of ingrates infecting Obamaland.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Although this piece is tongue-in-cheek, it confirms the worst
 stereotypes of what women are like. When they get their poor little
 feelings hurt because their girl lost, you are supposed to stroke them
 and comfort them until they feel better. If you don't they go on
 threatening to do something mean and spiteful, even though it is
 against their own interests and what they declare they believe in.
 (They're so irrational, the poor dears!) Women are, in short, very odd
 creatures, but I guess we're just stuck with them. 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
   http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/files/2008/09/boloneyalert1.gif
  
  http://tinyurl.com/4c36qm
  The following was posted by Lea Lane on huffpo.
 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lea-lane/eat-crow-hell-yes-to-win_b_12671\
  2.html  I Pass it on without comment since it speaks for
  itself…Olivia Taylor-Young.
  
  Do Whatever You Must to Trick Former Hillary Supporters into
Voting for
  Barack
  
  Eat Crow? Hell Yes, to Win This Election
  
  The Obama team is suddenly making a huge effort to gain women's
  votes, but many die-hard Hillary supporters — dozens of my
  acquaintances — remain bruised and confused. The fact that Palin is
  on the ticket when HRC wasn't even vetted may turn out to have been
  the major gaffe of Axelrod and Company, and the tipping point of this
  tight election.
  
  If you've been an outspoken Obama supporter from the beginning,
  it's time to make amends with Hillary supporters you know. Arguing
  with, or browbeating them to get on board is counterproductive, but
  showing you've come around to respecting Hillary may ease their hurt
  enough to do the trick. (Even if you don't mean it. This is
  politics.)
  
  Here's what you can do:
  
  Eat crow. To get started, memorize this phrase, take a deep breath and
  say: Now that I see how unqualified Sarah Palin is, I realize how I
  misjudged Hillary Clinton. Even Biden said she would have made a great
  vice president. Saying you wish she were the presidential nominee may
  go too far, and you may not be able to get it out. But if the
Hillaryite
  brings it up, don't argue, and see below
  
  Let the HRC voter vent.You may have to draw on every bit of
patience you
  have. You may have to hear once again how unfair it is that the Repubs
  chose Palin, and the Dems ignored Hillary, and that the party would
  assuredly be ahead if she were anywhere on the ticket. You may have to
  hear old-news complaints about sexism and Jack Cafferty's
  curmudgeonly comments, David Shuster's pimping Chelsea insult, the
  Monica mentions, the tougher debate questions for Hillary. Do not look
  like you want to run and soak your head in vodka, even if you do.
Do not
  talk unless asked. Listening without argument is the major way to keep
  this potential voter attainable.
  
  
  Act empathic. Nod your head in agreement when the subject of Palin or
  Chris Matthews or Keith Olbermann's Hillary-bashing commentary is
  mentioned. Learn these phrases and use them every so often: I imagine
  it must be hard. It must seem unfair. I know, you wanted to see an
  accomplished woman as president in your lifetime. I can understand
  your being hurt (sad, mad, furious, despondent, livid, resentful,
  apoplectic, intransigent, inconsolable, red-faced, nauseous, wretched,
  shit-faced). Again, do not argue. Just listen.
  
  Do not praise Obama.I know, this seems ridiculous, but now is 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Elitist McCain Couldn't Look at his Opponent'

2008-09-27 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii_99@ wrote:
 
  Mr. military didn't even have the guts or the humanly 
  respect to even look at Senator Obama, in the debate 
  last night. No wonder he doesn't want to talk to anyone 
  who doesn't agree with him.
 
 ***
 
 There are cultural differences between blacks and whites 
 when it comes to eye contact:
 
 http://tinyurl.com/3nn996

Bullshit. This wasn't about cultural differences;
this was about cowardice.

All of you guys and gals who have studied martial
arts, chime in on this if you feel like it. I used
to make money at full-contact karate contests by
waiting until the two fighters had walked out onto
the mat and faced each other before the fight to
place my bets. I never lost, because I could tell
in that moment in which they first faced each 
other who was going to win and who was going to
lose. From the outset of last night's debate,
McCain was going to lose.

And this guy postures as a *warrior*?

And since I've ventured back into the political
arena, here is a bit more chum to stir the waters.
In the irony department, the following statement 
was adopted as a plank in the Republican platform 
in August at their convention:

We do not support government bailouts of private institutions.
Government interference in the markets exacerbates problems in 
the marketplace and causes the free market to take longer to 
correct itself, - Republican Party Platform, 2008.

And here's today's *real* talk about the economy from 
economist Michael Hudson: 

Once in a century rip-off...not a 'bailout' but a 'giveaway' 
and will create a new kleptocracy of billionaires

http://tinyurl.com/4lvyxg





[FairfieldLife] Re: Ed Schultz: McCain Camp insiders say Palin clueless

2008-09-27 Thread bob_brigante
 I expect that the McCain folks will have Palin pull out as the VP 
candidate, giving some 
 excuse about needing to be with her family, newborn, whatever.  
Then they will find 
 someone else and hope for the best.   They cannot possibly think 
that Palin will work.  I 
 think they will cancel the VP debate until they get a replacement 
for her.
 
 I wonder if she gets how much she in over her head?  If she finally 
does, I feel sorry for 
 her.  If she does not, then it is even essential that she be 
replaced.  Best thing she could 
 do:  say she now realizes she is not qualified, and resign. She 
made a big mistake.
  

*

Mc can't dump Palin now -- he would lose the Christian right (which 
is the reason he picked her, antiabortion stance etc) and look weak 
and indecisive, poor judgment etc, and anyway it's just too damn 
close to the election, and Palin is still drawing huge crowds in 
moronland. But I think it's entirely possible Palin will go soon 
after inauguration if the redneck states prevail in this election -- 
Mc wouldn't even have to push, since I doubt that Palin really wants 
the job anyway.



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