[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye Bye GM
GM is a classic example of a company that failed to be innovative in the midst of competition. The blame has to be placed on the managers who ran the company to the ground. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: As the old saying goes as GM goes so goes America. So I guess we can say bye, bye America too. And probably a good thing and we can get on with living in the 21st century instead of dreaming it's still the 19th. I mean the age of working at one company for life has passed. Folks like to move around in their work these days. And with my musician's background one always was changing a gig. Job security? No such luxury. Time for the rest of the workforce to grow up. Now if the car dealers still want to sell cars we need them to stop behaving like con artists. Don't you just hate buying a car? It's like bend over and get screwed time. Nowadays you have to watch that the service department isn't trying to make up for sales loss by recommending expensive repairs you don't need. I think I've taken my car to the dealer for service for the last time.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: From Russia - with love
(snip) Quite an impressive essay... But, I wonder, how are things in Russia, these days... He is comparing his experience living in the old Soviet Union, which was really an evil place to live... Even though we suffered a shock, with the crap that's gone down, the past few years... The Russian style is to exaggerate, but he does have a point, to the stupidity that had overtaken the country... I still wonder how it's going to go, when I see so much alcohol consumption, like it's an American religion, to have a beer, and have another, and watch the game, and so on, and so forth... It's like everything is being exposed. It's like a raw nerve, that's been numb, for a long time, waking up... Feel the pain. Can't heal to you feel the pain. R.g. It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people. True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists. Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters. First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their right to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our democracy. Pride blind the foolish. Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different branches and denominations were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the winning side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the winning side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America. The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe. These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them? These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters. Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of pure free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions. So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a bold move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too.. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently, even though we suffered 70 years of this Western sponsored horror show, we know nothing,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye Bye GM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: GM is a classic example of a company that failed to be innovative in the midst of competition. The blame has to be placed on the managers who ran the company to the ground. * GM mgmt was good, the problem is that U.S. companies ware saddled with unsustainable labor costs as a result of the failure of the U.S. to provide universal government-backed health care. All other industrialized democracies have health care for all citizens, so carmakers in those countries do not have to pay for employee (and even retired employee!) health costs as GM ($1500/car for health costs) and others do: http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=8785
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Randy Meltzer wrote: Thanks Vaj for saying that. I am not here to do the pile on Vaj thing. Its just when you make statements like the shankaracharya order is Vaishnavite and my experience is s the oposite I had to chime in. I couldn't agree more, Randy...every time Vaj or anyone else makes a dumb-ass statement like that I just want to punch them. The shankaracharya order is Vaishnavite indeed! And yes, I did have a small axe to grind about you as someone pointed out in a previous post, because I felt your comments in the past about my experiences were disrespectful. In any case, its nothing personal. Just trying to keep the facts staight Yes, the facts about the shankaracharya order being Vaishnavite or not is as clear-cut as crystal, and how anybody could miss that is beyond me. Thanks for clearing all that up! The facts are that you guys are arguing about whether an obscure religious sect worships one imaginary deity or another. From the outside, without being a part of that obscure religious sect. I understand that it's fun for you, and is as good a way to pass the incarnation as any, I guess, but I'm reminded of the sociologist who postulated that beings a few centuries from now are going to find American shopping malls and not know what the hell to make of them. They are obviously centers to which large numbers of people flocked on a regular basis. In other societies this is synonymous with churches and other centers of religious or spiritual activity. So these future soc- iologists are going to decide that shopping malls were the churches of America. And who or what did the people worship in these huge churches? Deities named Calvin Klein and Hugo Boss and (genuflecting before speaking His holy name) Versace. These sociologists will spend hours arguing about which of these gods the long-dead people of America worshipped *most*, and which was the ultimate god of the shopping malls the one that the religious order was founded to worship. And, obviously, it's Hugo Boss, right? The name says it all.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: From Russia - with love
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote:
--- On Mon, 6/1/09, Jennifer Stastny jenni...@... wrote:
From: Jennifer Stastny jenni...@...
Subject: From Russia - with love
To: Jennifer Stastny es...@...
Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:33 PM
 From of all places - PRAVDA! Scary when the leading publication of
the Communist Party back in the heyday of Communist rule can see and
understand what so many in this country cannot.
Once again, FWIW, perhaps 'pravda' is related to Sanskrit
'praveda' (in 'praveda-kRt):
praveda m. (see %{a4-praveda}) ; %***{-kRt} mfn. (prob.) making known
AV.***
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert babajii...@... wrote: (snip) Not content with the Robert, my direct memories of my awful past lives piss on your psychic's recounting of your own awful past lives posturing, now emptybill... (snip) I'm sorry you didn't appreciate 'My Past Life Story'...Turq... Perhaps if I draw a tatoo of it, and put in a nice female ass..then you might be a lot interested? Robert, I give your past life story or remembrance *exactly* the same credence I give my own. That is, a pleasant fantasy that one will never know the truth of, but helps to pass the time and make it more amusing. I was poking fun at EmptyBill's suggestion that because he could (presumably) remember his own past lives and you had to be told about yours by a psyhic, his were better and thus he was better than you. I found *that* laughable, not your attachment to who you think you were in the past. You're starting to really get into the Judy thang, perceiving attacks where none are intended, or even imagined. It could be something you've picked up from FFL. Or maybe it's a past life thang. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Tongues of Fire: A Symbol of Pure Consciousness
To All: The early Christian writers have written about the tongues of fire that appeared on the apostles' heads during Pentecost. In modern parlance, the writers were trying to tell us that there is a silent witness that burns from within--in other words that's pure consciousness. So, the literal translation of the symbolic language may be inaccurate. We also note that after this incident the apostles were able to communicate to different nationalities even though they only spoke Aramaic or Hebrew. In other words, the writers were trying to say that the apostles' understanding of the Christ experience was understood by everyone since it is the natural realization of the consciousness that burns within all human beings. JR
[FairfieldLife] Tongues of Fire: A Symbol of Pure Consciousness
To All: The early Christian writers have written about the tongues of fire that appeared on the apostles' heads during Pentecost. In modern parlance, the writers were trying to tell us that there is a silent witness that burns from within--in other words that's pure consciousness. So, the literal translation of the symbolic language may be inaccurate. We also note that after this incident the apostles were able to communicate to different nationalities even though they only spoke Aramaic or Hebrew. In other words, the writers were trying to say that the apostles' understanding of the Christ experience was understood by everyone since it is the natural realization of the consciousness that burns within all human beings. JR
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: From Russia - with love
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_re...@... wrote:
-
Once again, FWIW, perhaps 'pravda' is related to Sanskrit
'praveda' (in 'praveda-kRt):
praveda m. (see %{a4-praveda}) ; %***{-kRt} mfn. (prob.) making known
AV.***
Hmmm... at least the verb veda't means 'to know'...
http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=viewid=642826
In Kyrillic, approximately like BeDaTb (B = V; b = soft sign)
[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June
Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009 http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/ Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009 http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY
On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:46 PM, Randy Meltzer wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: Well lets see. I have been to Guru Dev's ashram in Allahabad 4 times. The last time was this past April, but Vasudevanandaji was not there so it was pretty quiet. I just walked around a bit. There is a beautiful altar in the middle of the courtyard of the ashram that has a statue of Adi Shankara and one of Guru Dev and a pair of Guru Dev's sandals that have been bronzed. I believe they do puja to the altar every morning. On previous occasions I have met with Vasudevananda in his meeting room, which is the same room and has the same seat that Guru Dev sat on and the energy in there has always been palpable. Vasudevanandaji has always been very low key, pretty relaxed and would answer any questions (not that I really had any) and was always appreciative that we were with MMY. Jyotir math was also very nice and not much going on. There a few monks who are disciples of vasudevanandaji and very welcoming. I attended evening puja to Vasudevanandaji sandals that were there and it was lovely. The monks asked me to stay for a few weeks, which I had no time to do, but it was nice that they asked. Both ashrams seemed very traditional ashram like. Not at all TM like. I plan on visiting Kanchipuram in the fall. Take pictures please!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY
On Jun 2, 2009, at 2:58 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@... wrote: On Jun 1, 2009, at 11:36 AM, Randy Meltzer wrote: Thanks Vaj for saying that. I am not here to do the pile on Vaj thing. Its just when you make statements like the shankaracharya order is Vaishnavite and my experience is s the oposite I had to chime in. I couldn't agree more, Randy...every time Vaj or anyone else makes a dumb-ass statement like that I just want to punch them. The shankaracharya order is Vaishnavite indeed! And yes, I did have a small axe to grind about you as someone pointed out in a previous post, because I felt your comments in the past about my experiences were disrespectful. In any case, its nothing personal. Just trying to keep the facts staight Yes, the facts about the shankaracharya order being Vaishnavite or not is as clear-cut as crystal, and how anybody could miss that is beyond me. Thanks for clearing all that up! The facts are that you guys are arguing about whether an obscure religious sect worships one imaginary deity or another. From the outside, without being a part of that obscure religious sect. I think that's only a small part of it. We're not talking about whether or these people hang out in airports singing teary-eyed bhajans to Lord Krishna. The point has more to do with the style of organization we're dealing with. In the west we might say an organization is patriarchal and that invokes a certain sense of how the org operates compared to, say, a matriarchal one. Similarly calling an order or line Vaishnavite invokes a certain idea as to what type of org it is: puritanical, priests--lots of priests, few or no priestesses, large draw from the merchant and Brahmin classes, big emphasis on ritual by priests, purity-freaks, separation of men and women: men on top, women on the bottom, no sex on ashram grounds, etc. Vaishnavism is meant, in this context, to invoke the type of org we're dealing with and less so a preference for a specific deity, although often (as in this case) the orgs primordial guru will be Vishnu or a form of VIshnu.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip The facts are that you guys are arguing about whether an obscure religious sect worships one imaginary deity or another. From the outside, without being a part of that obscure religious sect. The Shankaracharya order, of course, is hardly an obscure religious sect. And as Vaj points out, the issue is much less a matter of which deity is worshiped as it is of basic principles and organizational style--roughly akin to the difference between Protestant and Catholic in that regard. In other words, in his anxiety to come up with a putdown, Barry once again trips over his ignorance.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: From Russia - with love
Having failed so miserably to sell their own lies to the American people, the right wing is now resorting to using the Russian propaganda medium of Pravda to support their crackpot, paranoid fabrications. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Jennifer Stastny jenni...@... wrote: From: Jennifer Stastny jenni...@... Subject: From Russia - with love To: Jennifer Stastny es...@... Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:33 PM  From of all places - PRAVDA! Scary when the leading publication of the Communist Party back in the heyday of Communist rule can see and understand what so many in this country cannot.    American capitalism gone with a whimper 27.04.2009 Source: Pravda.Ru URL: http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-american_capitalism-0 It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people. True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists. Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters. First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their right to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our democracy. Pride blind the foolish. Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different branches and denominations were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the winning side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the winning side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America. The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe. These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them? These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament). Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters. Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of pure free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions. So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a bold move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign the entire automotive industry and will even be the guarantee of automobile policies. I am sure that if given the chance, they would happily try and redesign it for the whole of the world, too.. Prime Minister Putin, less then two months ago, warned Obama and UK's Blair, not to follow the path to Marxism, it only leads to disaster. Apparently,
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just to show I'm not the only one to comment on her photos...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: snip All readers: Please consider that the piece is once again presented to your minds, because it was mindfully sought for for just such a reason by the poster -- to present it to you. He put this again into your minds. Consider that the piece had to be unholy ripped from its resting place, and by a vile intent has it been thus unearthed. Consider that this creepy zombie piece is now enlivened by the poster's shakti with an intent to maraud this place of discourse with a purposeful besmirching of our atmosphere. Consider that this text-zombie was puppeteered by the poster to deliver an energy of malevolence at two targeted persons but equally delivered the energy to you other readers also. snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity no_reply@ wrote: snip Edg's response went over the edge. He may have felt goaded, but his post is ugly. I've been pondering this tactic of Barry's with some bemusement. Edg's correct that it was intended to upset both Edg and me, but what leaves me scratching my head is that at the time he wrote his comments on my photo, Edg assumed they would wound me deeply; and Barry figured the repost would rip the scab off the wound. He's done his damndest to inflict such wounds on me himself many times in the past. Er, no, sorry, guys. I haven't been insecure about my appearance since I was an adolescent. Even if I thought Edg and Barry really did find my photo repulsive, enough men (more than my share, in fact) have found me attractive (and still do) that it wouldn't bother me in the slightest that there were exceptions. Chacun a son gout, and all that. What's so interesting is that both Edg and Barry are convinced that a woman's sense of self-worth is heavily dependent on how men regard her looks. That can only be because they themselves value women based on their physical attractiveness. I'm not a good test case, as it happens. If I were genuinely unattractive, I might well be sensitive about it. If I were psychologically insecure, I might be sensitive about my looks even though I'm not unattractive. But I'm neither unattractive nor psychologically insecure, so all the energy that Edg and Barry have put into trying to make me feel bad about myself has actually only reflected badly on them.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: From Russia - with love
The right wing Cabal l,no doubt, bribed Pravda to print this so it could be circulated in the USA yeah that's the ticket! --- On Tue, 6/2/09, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: From: do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: From Russia - with love To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 1:02 PM Having failed so miserably to sell their own lies to the American people, the right wing is now resorting to using the Russian propaganda medium of Pravda to support their crackpot, paranoid fabrications. --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote: --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Jennifer Stastny jenni...@.. . wrote: From: Jennifer Stastny jenni...@.. . Subject: From Russia - with love To: Jennifer Stastny es...@... Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:33 PM  From of all places - PRAVDA! Scary when the leading publication of the Communist Party back in the heyday of Communist rule can see and understand what so many in this country cannot.    American capitalism gone with a whimper 27.04.2009 Source: Pravda.Ru URL: http://english. pravda.ru/ opinion/columnis ts/107459- american_ capitalism- 0 It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people. True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists. Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters. First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their right to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights.. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our democracy. Pride blind the foolish. Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different branches and denominations were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the winning side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the winning side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America. The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another year, and there is no sign that it will not, America at best will resemble the Wiemar Republic and at worst Zimbabwe. These past two weeks have been the most breath taking of all. First came the announcement of a planned redesign of the American Byzantine tax system, by the very thieves who used it to bankroll their thefts, loses and swindles of hundreds of billions of dollars. These make our Russian oligarchs look little more then ordinary street thugs, in comparison. Yes, the Americans have beat our own thieves in the shear volumes. Should we congratulate them? These men, of course, are not an elected panel but made up of appointees picked from the very financial oligarchs and their henchmen who are now gorging themselves on trillions of American dollars, in one bailout after another. They are also usurping the rights, duties and powers of the American congress (parliament) . Again, congress has put up little more then a whimper to their masters. Then came Barack Obama's command that GM's (General Motor) president step down from leadership of his company. That is correct, dear reader, in the land of pure free markets, the American president now has the power, the self given power, to fire CEOs and we can assume other employees of private companies, at will. Come hither, go dither, the centurion commands his minions. So it should be no surprise, that the American president has followed this up with a bold move of declaring that he and another group of unelected, chosen stooges will now redesign
[FairfieldLife] Going to the Saints
As a meditator I always find it useful going to the saints. Always clarifying or helpful to the spiritual experience. That's what they come around for, to help people with their spiritual experience in a human life. Practically, go more than once and you'll get to be less self-conscious or more innocent in a way to what is going on. They seem always helpful in the so many reasons that folks may go see them. Just go sit down meditate. Git in line. Sit with it. You'll proly find you feel better. Is that simple. Is a form of spiritual practice, as in going to the saints is something you kind of have to elect to do. Sort of like electing to sit and meditate. In practice. That part is a lot like the difference between a `yes'=meditator, and non-meditators. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: Turqalingam
One must assume that this is Willytex's belated attempt to show what he looks like. And possibly what his gay lover looks like... do.rflex wrote: Here, apparently John really, really hates to be laughed at. LOL! Subject: The shocking truth about John Manning From: Atrox Newsgroups: alt.religion.mormon Date: Wed, Sep 24 2003 http://tinyurl.com/nb3jpr is an actual photo of Willy Tex from one of his web pages when he used to refer to himself as the punditster' at alt.meditation.transcendental. http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/listen.htm
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just to show I'm not the only one to comment on her photos...
It seems no one notices the country is going down the drain and, maybe that is why. No one cares? lurkernomore wrote: Maybe people are happy to not wake up everyday hearing about the war on terror. So, you just had to mention the war on terror once again this morning? LOL! Maybe the people are relieved to not have to hear each day that we have not been attacked due to great leadership of Dick Cheney and George Bush. Please tell me how the country is going down the drain. Cite a few examples, or how now, all of the sudden we are going down the drain. Here's a quote I hear recently. Wall Steet owns the upside. The taxpayer owns the downside
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just to show I'm not the only one to comment on her photos...
Judy, Hmmm, Ruth called my post ugly, and I think she nailed it. And I admitted that I gave myself permission to be as mean as Godzilla making a Bambi pancake. In other words, I wasn't even talking about your picture at all -- just pretending to do that and riffing in a vile low vibe. To me a woman's looks change by the thought. Bam, bam, bam, she's ugly, she's sexy, she's kind, she's evil, and on and on it goes. I think this is what keeps men from looking for very long into their faces -- they are all Mother Divine I tells ya, and whole worlds scintillate before their inner ken like motes suspended in rays of light. It makes men shit their pants. Hard enough to please one's employer every day, what chance to a Sat Yuga Goddess with a Kali Yuga man's personality? Yeah, I think all men are built to look first and feel later and to judge the book by the cover, but, if a guy is really looking for a partner (rare,) the woman's looks only allure until she says the first word, then all bets are off. The most beautiful babe can be a psychic black hole, and that energy cannot be as easily disguised as a pimple being covered by makeup. If a guy's merely looking for sex, then he can pretty much stop paying attention to energy, and the lady is beautiful all night long. My post's energy was, I thought at the time, an appropriate echoing of your energy when you scoured me in a personal attack. I often feel you nuke others instead of chide them in a friendly banterly way, and I still scratch my head when you do this to a newbie who's come here to try to get some sort of merit badge. That blasting-while-also-correcting is certain to scare away tons of folks who don't have the ego strength to hang here for their intellectual betterment. Shit, I barely have the strength. When Ruth said the word ugly, it wasn't a paper cut to me. Ruth's heart counts. But your blasts equally are as sure to hurt others as much as Ruth's well aimed arrows. Tell me why I shouldn't conclude that you're always trying to thin the herd here. The physician desires disease, and Judy desires incorrectitudes; seems to me, you'd want a lot more dunderheads, blowhards, and crocked cocks here in order to be sure that the entire spectrum of nonsense can be displayed and that your creative intelligence will have easy pickings. Not to say that I alone am not enough to keep you typing all day long, but that you might enjoy your job here more if you didn't have the same old grind of See Barry, stomp Barry, grind Berry, make Barry bread from Barry bones. Seriously, if we had another pompous asshole with no ability to see himself as others do, would that be refreshing to you? For the record, I can point to no post of yours that would be proof that you, Judy, have a lousy life due to your blasting others in real life. Just as others here do not know me, not really, I cannot know you, not really. Almost all accusations here are doomed to ultimately be close to 100% projection. Do you agree? I bet you don't. I bet you think you could identify Barry from an audio only recording of ten conversations of tourists overheard in a Spanish cafe like spotting a guy in a police lineup with a burglar's mask still being worn. I don't have such certainty. The Barry we see here is too haughty to be much of a success in the real world, so, I'm guessing he's got some very nice and proper masks that he can don, but we won't see them worn here, eh? Nab, different story maybe, but in general I think most posters hold back huge hunks of what they are. Judging Barry is definitely hunting elephants with a woodsman's axe because they're so tree-like donchaknow. Glad to hear my darts didn't hit any tender spots over there, but damned if I didn't think I was doing a SWAT attack. For a moment, I swear I was Bruce Willis reloading in mid-air while spinning like a top and mowing down the surrounding hoard of world class evil creeps. Not that you're a world class evil creep, mind you, just that I felt that way while shooting from the hip. Ah, coffee and a nearby mirror start my day. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: snip All readers: Please consider that the piece is once again presented to your minds, because it was mindfully sought for for just such a reason by the poster -- to present it to you. He put this again into your minds. Consider that the piece had to be unholy ripped from its resting place, and by a vile intent has it been thus unearthed. Consider that this creepy zombie piece is now enlivened by the poster's shakti with an intent to maraud this place of discourse with a purposeful besmirching of our atmosphere. Consider that this text-zombie was puppeteered by the poster to deliver an energy of malevolence at two targeted persons but equally delivered the energy to you other readers also. snip
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: From Russia - with love
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6...@... wrote: The right wing Cabal l,no doubt, bribed Pravda to print this so it could be circulated in the USA yeah that's the ticket! The point is that the wingnut loonies on the right in the USA are so totally discredited in the eyes of the American people that they feel a need to resort to anti-American Russian propaganda to criticize the Obama administration - as if that equally crackpot propaganda from Russia somehow supports their own paranoid fantasies. The American people no longer believe the self-serving, fraudulent talking points from the USA right wing propaganda mill - and they surely aren't going to buy any from Russia's Pravda. Perhaps you and your fast dwindling number of fringe wackos would prefer to move to Putin's Russia. The Obama administration has maintained an approval rating in the mid 60% range since he took office. ~~ Only 21 percent continue to self-identify as Republicans ~~ A Washington Post poll made a big splash because it found that only 21 percent self-identify as Republicans. The abysmally low number got pundits and reporters talking about whether the GOP is shrinking to the point of irrelevance. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_042609.html An NBC/WSJ poll finds that the number of self-identified Republicans has dropped even lower: 20 percent. http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/4_090428_NBC-WSJ_Full.pdf GALLUP: May 18, 2009 - GOP Losses Span Nearly All Demographic Groups - Gallup Poll: http://snipurl.com/ja3ut --- On Tue, 6/2/09, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: From: do.rflex do.rf...@... Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: From Russia - with love To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 1:02 PM Having failed so miserably to sell their own lies to the American people, the right wing is now resorting to using the Russian propaganda medium of Pravda to support their crackpot, paranoid fabrications. --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote: --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Jennifer Stastny jennifer@ . wrote: From: Jennifer Stastny jennifer@ . Subject: From Russia - with love To: Jennifer Stastny ES4Me@ Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:33 PM  From of all places - PRAVDA! Scary when the leading publication of the Communist Party back in the heyday of Communist rule can see and understand what so many in this country cannot.    American capitalism gone with a whimper 27.04.2009 Source: Pravda.Ru URL: http://english. pravda.ru/ opinion/columnis ts/107459- american_ capitalism- 0 It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people. True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists. Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters. First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their right to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights.. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and about our democracy. Pride blind the foolish. Then their faith in God was destroyed, until their churches, all tens of thousands of different branches and denominations were for the most part little more then Sunday circuses and their televangelists and top protestant mega preachers were more then happy to sell out their souls and flocks to be on the winning side of one pseudo Marxist politician or another. Their flocks may complain, but when explained that they would be on the winning side, their flocks were ever so quick to reject Christ in hopes for earthly power. Even our Holy Orthodox churches are scandalously liberalized in America. The final collapse has come with the election of Barack Obama. His speed in the past three months has been truly impressive. His spending and money printing has been a record setting, not just in America's short history but in the world. If this keeps up for more then another
RE: [FairfieldLife] For Rick
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Randy Meltzer Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 10:54 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] For Rick Hi Rick, I just returned from Seattle today and Amma happen to be there so I thought I would go and see her. I have seen her before but not in many years. My experience with her was the same as every other time I have seen her, which is, this is also very nice, but frankly I don't see the big deal. I never experience anything during the hug and the whole scene evades me. This is in no way a put down. She is a great saint, no doubt. But for me, I don't get it. I have always respected your take on things (you taught an ATR course in Avoriaz in the mid 70's that I really enjoyed) and the fact that you had the resolve to break away from the TMO etc. Perhaps you could share what drew you to Amma and a bit of your experiences. If you don't want to do this here, then lets talk privately. Thanks Hi Randy, I'll respond tonight. Thanks. Rick
[FairfieldLife] Right Wing Racist Hypocrisy Out in the Open
~~ The Howls of a Fading Species ~~ One can only hope that the hysterical howling of right-wingers against the nomination of Sonia Sotomayor to the Supreme Court is something approaching a death rattle for this profoundly destructive force in American life. It's hard to fathom the heights of hypocrisy currently being scaled by the foaming-in-the-mouth crazies who are leading the charge against the nomination. Newt Gingrich, who never needed a factual basis for his ravings, rants on Twitter that Judge Sotomayor is a Latina woman racist, apparently unaware of his incoherence in the Latina-woman redundancy in this defamatory characterization. Karl Rove sneered that Ms. Sotomayor was not necessarily smart, thus managing to get the toxic issue of intelligence into play in the case of a woman who graduated summa cum laude from Princeton, went on to get a law degree from Yale and has more experience as a judge than any of the current justices had at the time of their nominations to the court. It turns the stomach. There is no level of achievement sufficient to escape the stultifying bonds of bigotry. It is impossible to be smart enough or accomplished enough. The amount of disrespect that has spattered the nomination of Judge Sotomayor is disgusting. She is spoken of, in some circles, as if she were the lowest of the low. Rush Limbaugh now there's a genius! has compared her nomination to a hypothetical nomination of David Duke, a former head of the Ku Klux Klan. How can a president nominate such a candidate? Limbaugh asked. Ms. Sotomayor is a member of the National Council of La Raza, the Hispanic civil rights organization. In the crazy perspective of some right-wingers, the mere existence of La Raza should make decent people run for cover. La Raza is a Latino K.K.K. without the hoods and the nooses, said Tom Tancredo, a Republican former congressman from Colorado. Here's the thing. Suddenly these hideously pompous and self-righteous white males of the right are all concerned about racism. They're so concerned that they're fully capable of finding it in places where it doesn't for a moment exist. Not just finding it, but being outraged by it to the point of apoplexy. Oh, they tell us, this racism is a bad thing! Are we supposed to not notice that these are the tribunes of a party that rose to power on the filthy waves of racial demagoguery. I don't remember hearing their voices or the voices of their intellectual heroes when the Republican Party, as part of its Southern strategy, aggressively courted the bigots who fled the Democratic Party because the Democrats had become insufficiently hostile to blacks. Where were the howls of outrage at this strategy that was articulated by Lee Atwater as follows: By 1968, you can't say `nigger' that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights, and all that stuff. Never a peep did you hear. Where were the right-wing protests when Ronald Reagan went out of his way to kick off his general election campaign in 1980 with a salute to states' rights in, of all places, Philadelphia, Miss., not far from the site where three young civil rights workers had been snatched and murdered by real-life, rabid, blood-thirsty racists? We've heard ad nauseam Ms. Sotomayor's comments awkwardly stated but hardly racist about what she brings to the bench as a Latina. But how often have we ever heard the awful, hateful position on race offered up by William F. Buckley, the right's ultimate intellectual champion? He felt comfortable declaring, in the wake of the Brown v. Board of Education decision ordering the desegregation of public schools, that whites had every right to discriminate against blacks because whites belonged to the advanced race. Right-wing howls of protest? I think not. Ms. Sotomayor's nomination is a big deal because never before in the history of the United States has any president nominated a Latina to the highest court. Only two blacks have ever been on the court, and the one selected by a Republican has been like a thumb in the eye to most African-Americans. The court is a living monument to America's long history of exclusion based on race, ethnic background and gender. Where is the right-wing protest against that? It was always silly to pretend that the election of Barack Obama was evidence that the U.S. was moving into some sort of post-racial, post-ethnic, post-gender nirvana. But it did offer a basis for optimism. There is every reason to hope that we've improved as a society to the point where the racial and ethnic craziness of the Gingriches and Limbaughs will finally have a tough time finding any sort of foothold. Those types can still cause a lot of trouble, but the ridiculousness of their posture is pretty widely recognized. Thus the desperate howling. ~by Bob Herbert http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/02/opinion/02herbert.html?_r=1ref=opinion
[FairfieldLife] Rachel Maddow: Former Right-to-Life Activist Apologizes
Former Right-To-Lifer Frank Schaeffer blasts the extremists [NOTE: This is an astonishing, revealing and powerful MUST SEE video clip. -jrm] Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC0qHnWsP5k SEE ALSO: 'How I (and Other Pro-Life Leaders) Contributed to Dr. Tiller's Murder' http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/how-i-and-other-pro-life_b_209747.html
[FairfieldLife] which guru best?
Hi, me know nothing and have no much money. Which guru best and can make me enlited very quick? how long takes? You know? dead ones, no good, right? thanks. Ps. any you here is enlited? how you did? very hard was or not? enlitment good for me? you think i should get?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye Bye GM
The blame has to be placed on the managers who ran the company to the ground... * bob_brigante wrote: GM mgmt was good, the problem is that U.S. companies ware saddled with unsustainable labor costs... GM failed and this can be summed up in three letters: UAW. Filmmaker Michael Moore says he's filled with joy over what he sees as the demise of General Motors as we all knew it and looks forward to government ownership... Read more: 'Michael Moore 'filled with joy' over GM's bankruptcy filing' USA Today, June 01, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/mhk6vc You manage to be cruel, misleading, and woefully impractical all in just a few paragraphs. I have to admit that I am generally a fan, and have seen all your films with the exception of 'Roger and Me.' However, your post on dKos has really shaken my faith in your ability to be a force for good in America Read more: 'A rebuttal to Michael Moore' Daily Kos, June 01, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/ngzwe5
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye Bye GM
Bhairitu wrote: And probably a good thing and we can get on with living in the 21st century instead of dreaming it's still the 19th... But I would argue that letting anger and frustration override a natural sense of what is good for the country is a nasty habit to get into. And I think Michael Moore is guilty of this in his attitude toward Detroit automakers... Read more: 'A rebuttal to Michael Moore' Daily Kos, June 01, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/ngzwe5
RE: [FairfieldLife] which guru best?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of new7892001 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:12 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] which guru best? Hi, me know nothing and have no much money. Which guru best and can make me enlited very quick? how long takes? You know? dead ones, no good, right? thanks. Ps. any you here is enlited? how you did? very hard was or not? enlitment good for me? you think I should get? Where are you? India? If so, which part?
[FairfieldLife] Federal Courts Will Force Obama To Dismiss Plan
http://old.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=5issue=20090601
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just to show I'm not the only one to comment on her photos...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Judy, Hmmm, Ruth called my post ugly, and I think she nailed it. And I admitted that I gave myself permission to be as mean as Godzilla making a Bambi pancake. In other words, I wasn't even talking about your picture at all -- just pretending to do that and riffing in a vile low vibe. I thought that might be the case. But it was a really stupid thing to do. It made you look terrible and didn't touch me at all. snip My post's energy was, I thought at the time, an appropriate echoing of your energy when you scoured me in a personal attack. Oh, please. Go back and reread the thread. You made a total ass of yourself from the start, well before I joined it. You freaked out at me because you asked for a general vote on whether you or do.rflex was the bigger liar and fuckhead, and I voted for you. (That was after you had threatened him with a lawsuit.) (Some really interesting comments from do.rflex about Barry and from Barry about do.rflex, as well as from Edg about Barry and Barry about Edg. Fascinating how alliances change. The thread was titled Time to vote -- Who's a bigger liar and fuckhead? John or Edg? back in August 2007.) snip I often feel you nuke others instead of chide them in a friendly banterly way, and I still scratch my head when you do this to a newbie who's come here to try to get some sort of merit badge. Yeah? When, exactly, have I ever done that? snip Seriously, if we had another pompous asshole with no ability to see himself as others do, would that be refreshing to you? God, no. Taking on assholes is a very poor second- best to having intelligent discussions with decent human beans. Almost all accusations here are doomed to ultimately be close to 100% projection. Do you agree? I bet you don't. Projection in what sense? Anybody who assumes how people behave here reflects how they behave in real life is deluded. But characterizing how people behave here is no more likely to be projection than characterizing how they behave in real life if one *knows* them in real life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: From Russia - with love
Well,do. as long as the polls you sight continue to hold I would say you have little to worry about and should be ecstatic. However, remember how down trodden and pathetic the Democrats were after Bush was elected in 2000? Oh, I'm sorry, I mean selected. As long as Obama can blame all of his problems on the previous administration he'll be able to maintain his poll numbers, which are quite common for a newly elected president. Sooner or later though, he will have to accept responsibility for the condition of the nation as his making. The drums are pounding. The resistance is organizing. I predict that it won't take six years for the opposition to take back at least one branch of the government and then he's finished.. --- On Tue, 6/2/09, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: From: do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: From Russia - with love To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 2:49 PM --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, mdixon.6569@ ... wrote: The right wing Cabal l,no doubt, bribed Pravda to print this so it could be circulated in the USA yeah that's the ticket! The point is that the wingnut loonies on the right in the USA are so totally discredited in the eyes of the American people that they feel a need to resort to anti-American Russian propaganda to criticize the Obama administration - as if that equally crackpot propaganda from Russia somehow supports their own paranoid fantasies. The American people no longer believe the self-serving, fraudulent talking points from the USA right wing propaganda mill - and they surely aren't going to buy any from Russia's Pravda. Perhaps you and your fast dwindling number of fringe wackos would prefer to move to Putin's Russia. The Obama administration has maintained an approval rating in the mid 60% range since he took office. ~~ Only 21 percent continue to self-identify as Republicans ~~ A Washington Post poll made a big splash because it found that only 21 percent self-identify as Republicans. The abysmally low number got pundits and reporters talking about whether the GOP is shrinking to the point of irrelevance. http://www.washingt onpost.com/ wp-srv/politics/ polls/postpoll_ 042609.html An NBC/WSJ poll finds that the number of self-identified Republicans has dropped even lower: 20 percent. http://msnbcmedia. msn.com/i/ MSNBC/Sections/ NEWS/4_090428_ NBC-WSJ_Full. pdf GALLUP: May 18, 2009 - GOP Losses Span Nearly All Demographic Groups - Gallup Poll: http://snipurl. com/ja3ut --- On Tue, 6/2/09, do.rflex do.rf...@.. . wrote: From: do.rflex do.rf...@.. . Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: From Russia - with love To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 1:02 PM Having failed so miserably to sell their own lies to the American people, the right wing is now resorting to using the Russian propaganda medium of Pravda to support their crackpot, paranoid fabrications. --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ ... wrote: --- On Mon, 6/1/09, Jennifer Stastny jennifer@ . wrote: From: Jennifer Stastny jennifer@ . Subject: From Russia - with love To: Jennifer Stastny ES4Me@ Date: Monday, June 1, 2009, 4:33 PM  From of all places - PRAVDA! Scary when the leading publication of the Communist Party back in the heyday of Communist rule can see and understand what so many in this country cannot.    American capitalism gone with a whimper 27.04.2009 Source: Pravda.Ru URL: http://english. pravda.ru/ opinion/columnis ts/107459- american_ capitalism- 0 It must be said, that like the breaking of a great dam, the American decent into Marxism is happening with breath taking speed, against the back drop of a passive, hapless sheeple, excuse me dear reader, I meant people. True, the situation has been well prepared on and off for the past century, especially the past twenty years. The initial testing grounds was conducted upon our Holy Russia and a bloody test it was. But we Russians would not just roll over and give up our freedoms and our souls, no matter how much money Wall Street poured into the fists of the Marxists. Those lessons were taken and used to properly prepare the American populace for the surrender of their freedoms and souls, to the whims of their elites and betters. First, the population was dumbed down through a politicized and substandard education system based on pop culture, rather then the classics. Americans know more about their favorite TV dramas then the drama in DC that directly affects their lives. They care more for their right to choke down a McDonalds burger or a BurgerKing burger than for their constitutional rights.. Then they turn around and lecture us about our rights and
[FairfieldLife] GM
The restructuring plan will go before the Federal Courts to determine its' constitutionality. Truman tried this with the steel industry during the Korean War and the courts stopped it based on a constitutional law prohibiting the executive branch from becoming involved in bankruptcy restructuring. Under the plan, the secured bond holders who have $27 billion in holdings will get 10% ownership, Canada, 12%, UAW, 17% and the govt., 60%. It's the first time that secured bond holders have been effected this way and will now change the way investors view secured bond ownership if the govt. can put them to the back of the line. In a bankruptcy, the secured bond holders are supposed to be at the head of the line in collecting assets.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY
Vaj is basically giving the story line doled out by the Frenchman Alain Danielou. Since he claims to be a Nath guru he can just repeat it endlessly. As his posts show, Vaj-duta once again professes to be an insider - tight with the Shanks as he loves call them. No doubt he must possess insider knowledge which they alone gave him (ie. that they are really Vaishnava-s in disguise). No doubt, just for Vaj, they must have brushed off Adi-Shankara's disagreement with Pancharatra theology as discussed in his Brahmasutra Bhasya. Thus his now it can be told - this is more insider revelation that only Vaj-duta would claim. If we look at Vaishnava sampradayas and the theologies they espouse, especially Pancharatra theology and yoga, we will see their fundamental difference from the advaita lineages. The advaita lineage founded by Adi-Shankara institued multiple deva worship in many forms - principally Saura, Shaiva, Shakta, Vaishnava, Ganapatya and in the South, Kartikkeya. That doesn't make any of them sectarian Vaishnava, Shakta or Shaiva. All of these sectarian lineages take their authority from Shaiva Agamas and Tantras and the Vaishnavas from the Pancharatra Samhitas. It is completely different sourcing. Sorry you have to waste so much time with his endless claims of insider knowledge. Vaj is a hack parading as an american nath-guru and advanced dzogchenpa. Mostly he just makes this stuff up. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:23 AM, Randy Meltzer wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Vaj, Again you make the statement that the tradition is not Shaivite. On what basis are you saying this? Have you been to Jyotir Math? Have you been to Guru Dev's ashram in Allahabad? It would seem not. Because if you had been there, it would be obvious. Even the sandalwood tilak on Guru Dev's face is shaivite style, not vaishnavite. The vaishnavites always wear their tilak in a vertical style. Shaivaites always horizontal. Where did you specifically find out that the shankaracharya order is vaishnavite? Please mention specifics? Bhaja Govindam is not a good argument. In India many people sing that. Next, you will be telling me that the Kedarnath temple in the Himalayas is a Vaishnavite temple. And the again I will state for the record that Shankara is a name of Shiva. Anyone in India knows that. But perhaps you are right and I am wrong. I guess my 16 trips there taught me nothing. Yes, I did say it again. I'm not going to lie. But at the same time, I've seen the same thing with numerous people associated with Vedic and puritanical Hindu movements. I spent a good amount of time involved with the Shankarcharya of the south and got to observe the inner workings close enough that I'm familiar with their workings. The Smartas are very inclusive, so they do not reject Shiva but they are not a Shaivite line. Being basically Brahmin, they have their version of history, told from their point of view. Yes, Shankara is a adjective of Shiva and some people do even consider Shankara an incarnation of Shiva. Of course some Shaivite lines also consider him a demon and destroyer. There are even tantric works attributed to Shankara which believers believe to actually be by Adi-Shankara. Historians however recognize that these come from a later date than Adi-Shankara. What some people aren't aware of is that orgs like the Shankaracharya while essentially deriving from Upanshadic thought and the Vedas, they also amalgamated a certain number of other sects which was part of a trend whereby older sects were brought into the newer Vedic ones. Really by the time of Shankara, the amalgamation of what was left of Vedic religion had already developed a symbiotic relationship with earlier forms of ecstatic religion like Shaivism. For that reason you can go to many Hindu temples and for one purpose they'll do a Vedic rite, for another they'll do a tantric one. But it's a sanitized, ritualized presentation of Shiva set in a puritanical religion. The original Shaivite gnosis was an ecstatic religion of the countryside, on the fringes of society. It's most recent revival would have been around time of Christ with the Shaivite saint Lakulisha who was considered the 28th avatar of Shiva. His followers considered him the last of the avatars mentioned in the Puranas. Most of these lines were oral, that is they were not written down and if they did, most existed in Dravidian languages. The Shaiva gnosis of Lakulisha was to last about a thousand years. A period of invasions by the Hun and the adherents of Islam put a stop to Shaivisms expansions. The Brahmans for a long, long time represented the dominant intellectual class began to gradually take over the various philosophical and scientific conceptions of the Shaivites. Utilizing a crafty exegesis, this essentially Vaishnavite
[FairfieldLife] GM Plan Unconstitutional
http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=328747531802969
[FairfieldLife] To Vaj- Gandharva Veda
Hey Vaj, Your take and mine are obviously different on the whole shankaracharya/vaishnavite thing and it made me wonder what your take on Gandharva veda is. That is to say, in your opinion, was what MMY was promoting as Gandharva Veda, actually Gandharva Veda music? Just wondering what you have to say. Anyone else with a comment on this, would also be welcome to see.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptyb...@... wrote: Vaj is basically giving the story line doled out by the Frenchman Alain Danielou. Since he claims to be a Nath guru he can just repeat it endlessly. As his posts show, Vaj-duta once again professes to be an insider - tight with the Shanks as he loves call them. No doubt he must possess insider knowledge which they alone gave him (ie. that they are really Vaishnava-s in disguise). No doubt, just for Vaj, they must have brushed off Adi-Shankara's disagreement with Pancharatra theology as discussed in his Brahmasutra Bhasya. Thus his now it can be told - this is more insider revelation that only Vaj-duta would claim. If we look at Vaishnava sampradayas and the theologies they espouse, especially Pancharatra theology and yoga, we will see their fundamental difference from the advaita lineages. The advaita lineage founded by Adi-Shankara institued multiple deva worship in many forms - principally Saura, Shaiva, Shakta, Vaishnava, Ganapatya and in the South, Kartikkeya. That doesn't make any of them sectarian Vaishnava, Shakta or Shaiva. All of these sectarian lineages take their authority from Shaiva Agamas and Tantras and the Vaishnavas from the Pancharatra Samhitas. It is completely different sourcing. Sorry you have to waste so much time with his endless claims of insider knowledge. Vaj is a hack parading as an american nath-guru and advanced dzogchenpa. Mostly he just makes this stuff up. Hey emptybill, thanks for this --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: On Jun 1, 2009, at 1:23 AM, Randy Meltzer wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote: Vaj, Again you make the statement that the tradition is not Shaivite. On what basis are you saying this? Have you been to Jyotir Math? Have you been to Guru Dev's ashram in Allahabad? It would seem not. Because if you had been there, it would be obvious. Even the sandalwood tilak on Guru Dev's face is shaivite style, not vaishnavite. The vaishnavites always wear their tilak in a vertical style. Shaivaites always horizontal. Where did you specifically find out that the shankaracharya order is vaishnavite? Please mention specifics? Bhaja Govindam is not a good argument. In India many people sing that. Next, you will be telling me that the Kedarnath temple in the Himalayas is a Vaishnavite temple. And the again I will state for the record that Shankara is a name of Shiva. Anyone in India knows that. But perhaps you are right and I am wrong. I guess my 16 trips there taught me nothing. Yes, I did say it again. I'm not going to lie. But at the same time, I've seen the same thing with numerous people associated with Vedic and puritanical Hindu movements. I spent a good amount of time involved with the Shankarcharya of the south and got to observe the inner workings close enough that I'm familiar with their workings. The Smartas are very inclusive, so they do not reject Shiva but they are not a Shaivite line. Being basically Brahmin, they have their version of history, told from their point of view. Yes, Shankara is a adjective of Shiva and some people do even consider Shankara an incarnation of Shiva. Of course some Shaivite lines also consider him a demon and destroyer. There are even tantric works attributed to Shankara which believers believe to actually be by Adi-Shankara. Historians however recognize that these come from a later date than Adi-Shankara. What some people aren't aware of is that orgs like the Shankaracharya while essentially deriving from Upanshadic thought and the Vedas, they also amalgamated a certain number of other sects which was part of a trend whereby older sects were brought into the newer Vedic ones. Really by the time of Shankara, the amalgamation of what was left of Vedic religion had already developed a symbiotic relationship with earlier forms of ecstatic religion like Shaivism. For that reason you can go to many Hindu temples and for one purpose they'll do a Vedic rite, for another they'll do a tantric one. But it's a sanitized, ritualized presentation of Shiva set in a puritanical religion. The original Shaivite gnosis was an ecstatic religion of the countryside, on the fringes of society. It's most recent revival would have been around time of Christ with the Shaivite saint Lakulisha who was considered the 28th avatar of Shiva. His followers considered him the last of the avatars mentioned in the Puranas. Most of these lines were oral, that is they were not written down and if they did, most existed in Dravidian languages. The Shaiva gnosis of Lakulisha was to last about a thousand years. A period of invasions by the Hun and the adherents of Islam put a stop to Shaivisms expansions. The Brahmans for a long, long time represented
Re: [FairfieldLife] To Vaj- Gandharva Veda
On Jun 2, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Randy Meltzer wrote: Hey Vaj, Your take and mine are obviously different on the whole shankaracharya/vaishnavite thing and it made me wonder what your take on Gandharva veda is. That is to say, in your opinion, was what MMY was promoting as Gandharva Veda, actually Gandharva Veda music? Just wondering what you have to say. Anyone else with a comment on this, would also be welcome to see. Many of the darshanas and upavedas which are claimed by MMY (and others) to be Vedic are not related to the Vedic tradition. I don't know if Gandharva Veda is one of these or not. It certainly is a very well developed Indian science, their music. I would suspect it has pre-Vedic and more recent elements. Years ago I read Ravi Shankar's book on music, but it's been years. I went to a number of Maharishi Gandharva Veda concerts and they were all spectacular music performed by very gifted musicians. It was like listening to cosmic jazz. Rick's really in to Indian music, maybe he knows?
[FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of new7892001 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:12 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] which guru best? Hi, me know nothing and have no much money. Which guru best and can make me enlited very quick? how long takes? You know? dead ones, no good, right? thanks. Ps. any you here is enlited? how you did? very hard was or not? enlitment good for me? you think I should get? Where are you? India? If so, which part? The post originated from a Danish IP address. I searched the archives, and new7892001 has posted before, from a Danish IP, but with an excellent command of the English language.
[FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?
Gosh, new7892001, you've touched me very deeply. Where can I send you wads of cash to make your life better? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new7892001 jb...@... wrote: Hi, me know nothing and have no much money. Which guru best and can make me enlited very quick? how long takes? You know? dead ones, no good, right? thanks. Ps. any you here is enlited? how you did? very hard was or not? enlitment good for me? you think i should get?
[FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of new7892001 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:12 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] which guru best? Hi, me know nothing and have no much money. Which guru best and can make me enlited very quick? how long takes? You know? dead ones, no good, right? thanks. Ps. any you here is enlited? how you did? very hard was or not? enlitment good for me? you think I should get? Where are you? India? If so, which part? The post originated from a Danish IP address. I searched the archives, and new7892001 has posted before, from a Danish IP, but with an excellent command of the English language. Just goes to show that I should trust my intuition more. My first impulse was to write to him and say that the guru he was looking for was almost certainly Jim Flanegin. Now it seems an *obvious* best choice. Jim's enlited, he has shown no tendency to charge money for his advice, and he and new7892001 already share a predilection for deception. Sounds like a guru-disciple relationship made in heaven to me. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] GM
Right, and many of these bond holders are pension plans from all walks of life. --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Joe Smith msilver1...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Joe Smith msilver1...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] GM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 5:19 PM The restructuring plan will go before the Federal Courts to determine its' constitutionality. Truman tried this with the steel industry during the Korean War and the courts stopped it based on a constitutional law prohibiting the executive branch from becoming involved in bankruptcy restructuring. Under the plan, the secured bond holders who have $27 billion in holdings will get 10% ownership, Canada, 12%, UAW, 17% and the govt., 60%. It's the first time that secured bond holders have been effected this way and will now change the way investors view secured bond ownership if the govt. can put them to the back of the line. In a bankruptcy, the secured bond holders are supposed to be at the head of the line in collecting assets.
[FairfieldLife] Re: GM Plan Unconstitutional
The crux of the article seems to be: different classes of shareholders put in different amounts of money and the current equity breakdown should reflect what each class put in. And that it's unfair that the federal government put in $50 billion gets 60% of equity while bondholders who put in $27 billion only get 10%, etc. Well, the reasoning is flawed for one simple reason: the different parties put their money in at different times. There shouldn't be a parity between the parties when the element of risk is different, based upon when in the company's history people put their money in. Not that I support the government bailing out GM or becoming a shareholder but since that happened, well, I can't accept the arguments put forward as to why there should be equally prorated share of the company based upon how much each class of investor put in. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Joe Smith msilver1...@... wrote: http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=328747531802969
[FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new7892001 jb...@... wrote: Hi, me know nothing and have no much money. They go together! Which guru best and can make me enlited For you, any Guru will be an improvement! very quick? how long takes? No, some people say it takes 7 lifetimes, but for you I'd multiply that by 7. You know? You know what? dead ones, no good, right? I think you need a live one! thanks. Right! Ps. any you here is enlited? Doubtful! how you did? very hard was or not? Very difficult, but worth the effort. enlitment good for me? you think i should get? Yeah, you definitely need enlitment!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?
Some of new7892001's more interesting posts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/146709 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/146704 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/146700 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/122940 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/37714 Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only love. - Amma --- On Tue, 6/2/09, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best? To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 2:19 PM --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of new7892001 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:12 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] which guru best? Hi, me know nothing and have no much money. Which guru best and can make me enlited very quick? how long takes? You know? dead ones, no good, right? thanks. Ps. any you here is enlited? how you did? very hard was or not? enlitment good for me? you think I should get? Where are you? India? If so, which part? The post originated from a Danish IP address. I searched the archives, and new7892001 has posted before, from a Danish IP, but with an excellent command of the English language. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
[FairfieldLife] Re: GM Plan Unconstitutional
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , shempmcgurk shempmcg...@... wrote: The crux of the article seems to be: different classes of shareholders put in different amounts of money and the current equity breakdown should reflect what each class put in. And that it's unfair that the federal government put in $50 billion gets 60% of equity while bondholders who put in $27 billion only get 10%, etc. Well, the reasoning is flawed for one simple reason: the different parties put their money in at different times. There shouldn't be a parity between the parties when the element of risk is different, based upon when in the company's history people put their money in. Not that I support the government bailing out GM or becoming a shareholder but since that happened, well, I can't accept the arguments put forward as to why there should be equally prorated share of the company based upon how much each class of investor put in. No worries, the Chinese just bought the Hummer branch of GM (so that's where your Bushco policies ended up -- having to sell companies to China. One of THE main reasons GM went backrupt is because they were cudjoled into scrapping their perfectly viable electric cars - that were online and selling like hotcakes in the 90's - because of extreme pressure from Bush and Cheney's bumboys at Chevron-Texaco.) What if other countries buy other parts of GM and make them profitable again? Does this affect the outcome for investors (including the taxpayers)? OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Video about GM - 6 months ago - Electric car outside GM
Video about GM - 6 months ago - Electric car outside GM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL5SOPTqS6c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL5SOPTqS6c OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Turqalingam
do.rflex wrote: Here, apparently, is an actual photo of Willy Tex from one of his web pages... Oh my Gawd! John posted the picture from my Yahoo! profile. I guess we know who the troll is now. LOL! http://profiles.yahoo.com/WillyTex
[FairfieldLife] Chevron and GM hid viable EV from the world
EV is here now but hidden from Obama by Chevron GM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM8TvhVE8uc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM8TvhVE8uc The Electric car is not something that needs research. It's here, now, but being hidden from Obama. The only reason it's not being produced right now is the collusion between Chevron (Standard Oil of California) and General Motors. In 1994, GM bought up the worldwide patent rights and tried to suppress NiMH batteries. But in 1997, Toyota brought out a version that was improved to give over 100 miles range and last longer than the life of the car. So GM sold control of NiMH to Chevron on Oct. 10, 2000; Chevron funded a lawsuit against Toyota, which stopped selling the RAV4-EV and stopped making the batteries. Toyota only is able to make batteries for hybrids that can't plug in, after the agreement with Chevron's unit in Nov. 2002, announced in Dec., 2002. liveoilfree April 15, 2009 OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: From Russia - with love
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: Well,do. as long as the polls you sight continue to hold I would say you have little to worry about and should be ecstatic. However, remember how down trodden and pathetic the Democrats were after Bush was elected in 2000? Oh, I'm sorry, I mean selected. As long as Obama can blame all of his problems on the previous administration he'll be able to maintain his poll numbers, which are quite common for a newly elected president. Sooner or later though, he will have to accept responsibility for the condition of the nation as his making. The drums are pounding. The resistance is organizing. I predict that it won't take six years for the opposition to take back at least one branch of the government and then he's finished.. = = = = = Others are also making predictions: ~ James Carville predicts 40 more years of Democratic Party dominance Democratic political strategist James Carville has cold words for The Republican Party as it struggles to recover from massive losses in election 2008. In his new book, 40 More Years: How the Democrats Will Rule the Next Generation, according to Diane Sawyer of ABC's Good Morning America, Carville writes, Republicans shouldn't be worried. They should be in agony. They should be throwing up. Republicans had better get a better policy on prescription drugs and quickly. They're gonna need a lot more Prozac. Carville, known for colorful speech, rarely minces words, and apparently the quote is accurate because the book author did not correct Sawyer in his May 4 interview. A GMA contributor who also provides commentary for CNN, the New Orleanian has been right about political predictions before. However, as Sawyer says near the end of the interview, you'll have to live another 40 years to see if the the political commentator is right about continued Republican doom. Carville bases his potentially prophetic words on history and the move of voters from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party: Well, first of all - 40 years of dominance by political party at a norm from 1896 to 1932, there was only one Democratic president, from '32 to '68, only one Republican, and we've been living in an era of almost Republican dominance, 28 years to 12 years in the last 40. ... And young voters are moving Democratic at an alarmingly fast rate. If you're a Republican, every growing demographic is trending Democratic and, I think, we're probably on the verge of another 40-year era of party dominance here. (GMA interview) Sawyer challenged Carville, saying that the Federal deficit's alarming growth could stop President Barack Obama and the Democratic Party in their tracks. Carville responded: Right. Look, I think that the deficit is gonna be a big issue, but the Republicans don't have any credibility. I mean - it used to be when I was younger, they had, they had credibility on spending. They blew all spending credibility - in the early part of this decade. And sure, they can do better if they are able to attain some of that credibility. But right now, people are just not looking to them. And the way that they're talking about this is kind of irrelevant to people. ... It's, it's their best issue that these tea baggers, they turned everybody off. They were a bunch of like 75-year-old cranky white guys mad at everything, just couldn't have been a better, better event for the Democratic Party. I hope they come back and tea bag some more. And I think, I think that, that the Democrats are gonna be smart enough to, when, when this recession is over, and it will be over, to jump back on top of the spending issue like President Clinton did back in the '90s. Carville is often credited as being instrumental in Bill Clinton's strategy to win the Presidency in the 90s. If the Republicans hope to last, Carville advises them not to abandon the Christian Right. In an interview with The Huffington Post he said, I don't think they can do that because their party would crumble. It would be like at a time when people were saying you have to move away from African-American voters or something, right? Their party would crumble. That is not an option really available to them. Per one reviewer, Carville, who was a solid Hillary Clinton for president supporter, also dishes on and disses the Democratic power couple in the book, regarding Hillary's campaign. According to Greg Sargent at The Plum Line,Carville reveals that Bill Clinton was privately shocked and infuriated by the Hillary campaign's awful financial mismanagement, and he serves up scorching criticism of the campaign, singling out polling guru Mark Penn for 'suffering fatal confusion' about delegate strategy. James Carville was born October 25, 1944, at Fort Benning, Ga. He grew up in Carville, La., and attended a Catholic High School in Donaldsonville, La.. Following graduation, he entered
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye Bye GM
bob_brigante wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: GM is a classic example of a company that failed to be innovative in the midst of competition. The blame has to be placed on the managers who ran the company to the ground. * GM mgmt was good, the problem is that U.S. companies ware saddled with unsustainable labor costs as a result of the failure of the U.S. to provide universal government-backed health care. All other industrialized democracies have health care for all citizens, so carmakers in those countries do not have to pay for employee (and even retired employee!) health costs as GM ($1500/car for health costs) and others do: http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=8785 Absolutely. We need single pay health care plain and simple. And if we old farts are supposed to work until we drop dead how are we going to find jobs if they won't hire old farts because under the current free enterprise system we cost more in health coverage than the young inexperienced kids.
Re: [FairfieldLife] which guru best?
new7892001 wrote: Hi, me know nothing and have no much money. Which guru best and can make me enlited very quick? how long takes? You know? dead ones, no good, right? thanks. Ps. any you here is enlited? how you did? very hard was or not? enlitment good for me? you think i should get? Avoid pop gurus. They are only for making money. Get a one-on-one guru who can answer any question you have and that you don't have to compete with a bunch of other followers to get answers. For that you'll have to do some research. Look in the Indian community for astrologers who are often tantrics and can teach tantra. Tantra is for householders. You don't have to renounce the world to learn it. When you find someone take your time, ask a lot of questions and be sure you feel competent in learning from them. I knew my guru six months before I accepted instruction from him. Be sure to ask about tradition. If they don't have any, walk away.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bye Bye GM
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: As the old saying goes as GM goes so goes America. So I guess we can say bye, bye America too. And probably a good thing and we can get on with living in the 21st century instead of dreaming it's still the 19th. I mean the age of working at one company for life has passed. Folks like to move around in their work these days. And with my musician's background one always was changing a gig. Job security? No such luxury. Time for the rest of the workforce to grow up. Now if the car dealers still want to sell cars we need them to stop behaving like con artists. Don't you just hate buying a car? No, I love it. Here's the key to a fun -- and profitable -- experience: before you go to the dealer decide which car you want. They go online and research it. find out how much it costs and what you want to pay for it (important: know either a monthly amount you want to pay or a lump-sum INCLUDING TAX AND ALL EXTRAS). Then go in and be SUPER NICE. DO NOT HAVE A CONFRONTATIONAL ATTITUDE. Let them say what they want to say; in other words, let them give you a price (don't answer them if they ask you what YOU want to pay). And then tell them what you're willing to pay. They'll counter with something less than what they first said (usually by the ruse of calling over the manager). Don't go up from your price. Let this go on for a while and then give them your card and tell them if they're interested in getting your business you'll be happy to buy a car from them but in the meantime you'll be shopping around and leave. YOU HAVE TO BE READY TO LEAVE AND NOT BUY. And don't waver from your price no matter how reasonable they counter offer sounds in the heat of the moment. The average person hates bargaining for a car. They would like to buy it like they buy a refrigerator or TV. Yes they should research what they want in advance but one should do that with many things including a new TV or refer. When I see something on sale I often go download the PDF of the user's guide to see if it has what I want. You don't know how many times I've had to shut up a salesman because I knew what I wanted and he didn't have to sell its feature too me. I usually just say, you've got an easy sale this time because I did my homework. On Sunday I happened to be listening to Bob Brinker's show and the guest host asked the listeners if they would their new new car would be a GM car or American car. The subject quickly changed as callers said they hate the way cars are sold. And yes people said they had walked into a dealer, checkbook in hand and knew exactly what they wanted. In some cases they didn't even care about color. Guess what? They got turned away or the salesman tried to sell them something (we have a special model out back the same color as your eyes.) They were insulted. They found another dealer who would give them what they wanted. Of the tricks I learned. Watch the dealership and figure out when they are going to get a shipment in. I did that with my Forester. As soon as they got a shipment in I went in DRESSED CASUALLY and they threw me probably the dealer's grandson who was green behind the ears. Suddenly he had a sale and didn't know what to do. The senior salesman was pissed because he thought he had that car sold to someone else. I also paid cash and boy they didn't like that (they make extra money on the loans) but took the check anyway. Now their scam is to get me to have work done on the car that isn't necessary. So I'm not going back.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- Gandharva Veda
Vaj wrote: Many of the darshanas and upavedas which are claimed by MMY (and others) to be Vedic are not related to the Vedic tradition... Your erudite Indian scholarship never ceases to amaze me, Vaj! You'll post almost anything in order to discredit the Marshy. Go figure. The flute, along with the drum, may have been man's fist musical instrument. Apparently the Neandertals used the flute at least 43,000 years ago. The pan flute was used in Greece from the 7th century B.C., and spread to other parts of Europe and to South Asia with the Sanskrit speaking people before 1500 B.C. The origin of Indian music appears historically to be from the Vedas, according to most occidental scholars. The wooden flute, or in India, the 'Bansuri', was probably invented over 3,500 years ago. The Samaveda is considered to be the Veda of music. A string instrument called Van was also used, along with the Venu. Source: 'String Instruments in Sama Veda' By Dr. lalmani Misra http://tinyurl.com/o4tfme Read more: Subject: Maharishi Gandharva Veda From: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: June 15, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/pwhu6u Subject: Call of the Valley From: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: June 3, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/rbaozz Subject: Flying Beyond with Maharishi Gandhar Ved From: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: February 7, 2005 http://tinyurl.com/pyd28r Subject: Listen to the Music From: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: March 17, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/pg7njz Subject: Maharishi Gandharva-Veda Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: May 24, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/qonbm2 Subject: Listen to the Music Part 2 From: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: March 21, 2004 http://tinyurl.com/q63n3f
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just to show I'm not the only one to comment on her photos...
I wasn't even talking about your picture at all... Judy wrote: You made a total ass of yourself... It's just normal trollish activity. Barry and John are just trolling. Barry once tried to 'out me' by publishing my real name on the internet, not realizing I had already posted under my real name. John once trolled to my place of employ and copied a photo of me. Just today John copied a photo of me from my Yahoo! profile. Can you believe that? http://profiles.yahoo.com/WillyTex But the vibe I get from Edg is downright mean - he just seems to want to start a fight with people. Edg seems really prone to outbursts. I shut him up real quick though - now he won't even speak to me, and that's probably a good thing - no telling what he might do next!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- Gandharva Veda
On Jun 2, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: Vaj wrote: Many of the darshanas and upavedas which are claimed by MMY (and others) to be Vedic are not related to the Vedic tradition... Your erudite Indian scholarship never ceases to amaze me, Vaj! You'll post almost anything in order to discredit the Marshy. Go figure. Thanks Willy, but really the credit needs to go to Mahesh for discrediting himself.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY
On Jun 2, 2009, at 1:21 PM, emptybill wrote: No doubt, just for Vaj, they must have brushed off Adi-Shankara's disagreement with Pancharatra theology as discussed in his Brahmasutra Bhasya. Thus his now it can be told - this is more insider revelation that only Vaj-duta would claim. I think the easiest inside claim for Shankara being primarily a Vashnavite is that his core works, the ones the most will agree were actually written by him, not merely attributed to him, proclaim saguna Brahman as synonymous with narayana or vasudeva! ;-) Dead give away if you ask me! That's of course not to say that he didn't have Smarta leanings as well. Of course he did. And Bill thanks for trying to elevate me to guru, but you have no clue what my credentials and authorizations are, because I've never discussed them with. So stop spreading lies about what you think my credentials and authorizations might be. It's just a childish uptight game you're playing.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Stanley Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 1:19 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , Rick Archer r...@... wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of new7892001 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:12 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] which guru best? Hi, me know nothing and have no much money. Which guru best and can make me enlited very quick? how long takes? You know? dead ones, no good, right? thanks. Ps. any you here is enlited? how you did? very hard was or not? enlitment good for me? you think I should get? Where are you? India? If so, which part? The post originated from a Danish IP address. I searched the archives, and new7892001 has posted before, from a Danish IP, but with an excellent command of the English language. Isn't Nabby in Denmark, or thereabouts?
[FairfieldLife] Who's Happy And Why?
Consider this: in surveys such as this one, the impoverished people of Calcutta, India, living in crude shacks and with little access to clean water, register about even with Americans on the happiness scale -- and well ahead of the Chinese, South Koreans, and Japanese. Meanwhile, relatively poor Puerto Ricans and Columbians, appear to be among the happiest people on the globe. + + + There is an avalanche of new research in the areas of success and happiness. Perhaps the leading light in this field is Dr. Martin Seligman, a University of Pennsylvania research psychologist, who has boiled down true happiness to three components: pleasure (things that feel good), involvement (being immersed in things like family, work, and hobbies), and meaning (using personal strengths to serve a larger end). Of the three, Seligman says, pleasure (the one most closely linked to material gain) is the least consequential, a finding that has been reaffirmed in numerous follow-up studies worldwide. For example, studies by Dr. Ruut Veenhoven, a sociologist at Erasmus University in Rotterdam, show that the extremely poor -- those earning less than $10,000 a year -- may be rendered unhappy by the relentless stress of poverty. Yet his work shows that after a poor person's income exceeds that level there is no further correlation between money and happiness. After a certain level of income, typically enough to meet basic expenses, money ceases to be a factor. Money and happiness, it seems, really do not go hand in hand -- at least not in the manner you would expect. The World Database of Happiness presents one of the most interesting examinations into whether or not money buys happiness. This database is an ongoing register of scientific research on the subjective enjoyment of life. The scores are based on responses to a question about satisfaction with life and perceptions of personal well-being, the answers to which were rated on a numerical scale ranging from dissatisfied to satisfied. Rating scales ranged from 0 to 10. As you can see from the following list, when you place each country's GDP per capita (in current U.S. dollars), there is not very much correlation between how much money people make and how happy they feel. For example, Guatemalans have the same happiness score as Canadians, although their income is only one-eighth as much. What does tend to reliably correlate with happiness is the quality of relationships with family and friends and a personal sense of belonging to one's community. Ranking CountryScore National GDP Per Capita 1 Denmark 8.2 $37,400 2 Colombia8.1 $6,700 3 Switzerland 8.1 $41,100 4 Austria 8.0 $38,400 5 Iceland 7.8 $38,800 6 Australia 7.7 $36,300 7 Finland 7.7 $35,300 8 Sweden 7.7 $36,500 9 Canada 7.6 $38,400 10 Guatemala 7.6 $4,700 11 Ireland 7.6 $43,100 12 Luxembourg 7.6 $80,500 13 Mexico 7.6 $12,800 14 Norway 7.6 $53,000 15 Netherlands 7.5 $38,500 16 Malta 7.5 $22,900 17 United States 7.4 $45,800 18 Belgium 7.3 $35,300 19 El Salvador 7.2 $5,800 20 New Zealand 7.2 $26,400 21 Germany 7.2 $34,200 22 United Kingdom 7.1 $35,100 23 Honduras7.1 $4,100 24 Kuwait 7.0 $39,300 25 Saudi Arabia7.0 $23,200 26 Cyprus 6.9 $27,400 27 Italy 6.9 $30,400 28 Spain 6.9 $30,100 29 Argentina 6.8 $13,300 30 Brazil 6.8 $9,700 31 Dom. Republic 6.8 $7,000 32 Singapore 6.8 $49,700 33 Venezuela 6.8 $12,200 34 Chile 6.7 $13,900 35 Israel 6.7 $25,800 36 Slovenia6.7 $27,200 37 Uruguay 6.7 $11,600 38 Indonesia 6.6 $3,700 39 France 6.5 $33,200 40 Czech Republic 6.4 $24,200 41 Greece 6.4 $29,200 42 Nigeria 6.4 $2,000 43 Philippines 6.4 $3,400 44 China 6.3 $5,300 45 India 6.2 $2,700 46 Japan 6.2 $33,600 47 Taiwan 6.2 $30,100 48 Uzbekistan 6.2 $2,300 49
[FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: The post originated from a Danish IP address. I searched the archives, and new7892001 has posted before, from a Danish IP, but with an excellent command of the English language. Isn't Nabby in Denmark, or thereabouts? Therabouts yes but haven't been in Denmark for ages, why do you ask ? He certainly fooled you but I'm not laughing.
[FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer r...@... wrote: Isn't Nabby in Denmark, or thereabouts? Norway
[FairfieldLife] 'The body is pure spirituality, the universe is pure spirituality
'So our physiologywhich has always been perceived from the perspective of spirituality as being of lesser value, which drags us away from wholeness and spiritualityMaharishi bridged [that] and said, No: even the physical, in its structure, function, and Constitution is based on the structure of Natural Lawis an exact replica of Natural Law. It is itself Natural Law in physical form, it is spirituality. 'The body is pure spirituality, the universe is pure spiritualityand that is the spiritual regeneration of the world. That spiritual regeneration of the world becomes a scientific reality for us today.' http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=12425020874233477 http://www.globalgoodnews.com/world-peace-a.html?art=12425020874233477
[FairfieldLife] Re: Rachel Maddow: Former Right-to-Life Activist Apologizes
do.rflex wrote: This is an astonishing, revealing and powerful MUST SEE video clip... Didn't you just know that John would be the first person to capitalize on Tiller's death to post his political propaganda? ...said only those on the political left with twisted minds would make a direct connection and try to exploit this event to say that this is the face of the pro-life community. Full story: 'Do religious conservatives share blame in Tiller's death?' By Lindsay Perna and Adelle M. Banks USA Today, May 2, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/qw6kny When I heard about Tiller's murder, I knew pro-abortion zealots and Fox News haters would attempt to blame us for the crime, and that's exactly what has happened... Read more: 'O'Reilly Responds To The Tiller Murder' Think Progress, June 2, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/nxr7ns
[FairfieldLife] TM course fees
[Reduced TM Course Fees] * Adults: $1500 * Students: $750 * Financial need: $750 * Couples: $2250 * Children under 18 (if learning to meditate with a parent): $375
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM course fees
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante no_re...@... wrote: [Reduced TM Course Fees] * Adults: $1500 * Students: $750 * Financial need: $750 * Couples: $2250 * Children under 18 (if learning to meditate with a parent): $375 One wonders if there is a corresponding reduction in the group fee the Lynch Foundation pays... Lawson
[FairfieldLife] New Crop Circle, Below Milk Hill, nr Alton Barnes, Wiltshire. Reported 2nd June.
Images Jack Turner Copyright 2009 FOR VISITING THE CROP CIRCLES.
[FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- Gandharva Veda
Your erudite Indian scholarship never ceases to amaze me, Vaj! You'll post almost anything in order to discredit the Marshy. Go figure. Vaj wrote: Thanks Willy, but really the credit needs to go to Mahesh for discrediting himself. Apparently the 'Gandharvas' are mentioned in the Sama Veda and in the Rig Veda. LOL! They have superb musical skills. They guarded the Soma and made beautiful music for the gods in their palaces... Source: Gandharvas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandharva Many of the darshanas and upavedas which are claimed by MMY (and others) to be Vedic are not related to the Vedic tradition...
[FairfieldLife] Re: Just to show I'm not the only one to comment on her photos...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sun...@... wrote: , Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: It seems no one notices the country is going down the drain and, maybe that is why. No one cares? Maybe people are happy to not wake up everyday hearing about the war on terror. Maybe the people are relieved to not have to hear each day that we have not been attacked due to great leadership of Dick Cheney and George Bush. Please tell me how the country is going down the drain. Cite a few examples, or how now, all of the sudden we are going down the drain. Here's a quote I hear recently. Wall Steet owns the upside. The taxpayer owns the downside I am not happy to see continuing efforts to pass legislation that is eroding our freedoms.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Marshy: All Hat, No Cattle; was What is Enlightenment? - MMY
...this is more insider revelation that only Vaj-duta would claim. Vaj wrote: It's just a childish uptight game you're playing. Vaj, why not just read a book on Indian history? Vishnuism in India came a long time after the establishment of the Shivaite sect, and after Shankaracyarya. It's only later, after the Gupta period, that Vishnuism merged with Krishnaism and became popular. The formation of Shiva traditions occurred during the period from 200 BC to 100 AD. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaishnavism Most of the Shankaracharya order are now Tantrics and worship the Sri Vidya, not Vishnu or Krishna. ...most in the Shankaracharya tradition practice samaya sri vidya and accept that he wrote several tantric texts including Saundaryalahari, etc, etc. - James Duffy Read more: Subject: Auspicious Wisdom From: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.yoga, alt.meditation, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy Date: September 7, 2006 http://tinyurl.com/qs7w4b Subject: Shankara's Tantra Adwaita Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.yoga Date: July 4, 2008 12:45 pm http://tinyurl.com/of4mxb
[FairfieldLife] Re: Bye Bye GM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: GM is a classic example of a company that failed to be innovative in the midst of competition. The blame has to be placed on the managers who ran the company to the ground. snip, You could say the same thing about the government. If GM could print money, they would still be in business too. The money has deteriorated so much that I wonder if even that can save them.
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009 http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/ Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009 http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/ With what seems like quite a large number of these circles, isn't it odd that someone hasn't seen them being made and, have the facts on how it is done?
[FairfieldLife] Post Count
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[FairfieldLife] Does TM awaken kundalini?
Sorry I have to ask, but has MMY ever addressed this issue other than that one lecture in the early '70's? Or, is there another way to reach Cosmic Consciousness without awakening kundalini? What is the tmorg's teaching on this subject? Anybody know? Is the word 'chakra' forbidden in TM circles?
[FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?
So, now the moderators are making a list of IP addresses and some of the informants are posting people's real names and photos. But what I'd like to know is, who are the FFL 'moderators'? Will the IP list be uploaded to the FFL files? Other questions: How come is it that two of the FFL 'moderators' are 'Amma' cultists? How many 'moderators' are there on FFL? How many FFL moderators work full-time at being FFL 'moderators'? fflmod wrote: Some of new7892001's more interesting posts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/146709 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/146704 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/146700 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/122940 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/37714 Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no 'you,' only love. - Amma Alex Stanley wrote: The post originated from a Danish IP address. I searched the archives, and new7892001 has posted before, from a Danish IP, but with an excellent command of the English language.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Does TM awaken kundalini?
On Jun 2, 2009, at 8:17 PM, BillyG. wrote: Sorry I have to ask, but has MMY ever addressed this issue other than that one lecture in the early '70's? Or, is there another way to reach Cosmic Consciousness without awakening kundalini? What is the tmorg's teaching on this subject? Anybody know? Is the word 'chakra' forbidden in TM circles? http://www.spiritualregeneration.org
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote: On Jun 2, 2009, at 8:17 PM, BillyG. wrote: Sorry I have to ask, but has MMY ever addressed this issue other than that one lecture in the early '70's? Or, is there another way to reach Cosmic Consciousness without awakening kundalini? What is the tmorg's teaching on this subject? Anybody know? Is the word 'chakra' forbidden in TM circles? http://www.spiritualregeneration.org Could you be a little more specific?
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009 http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/ Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009 http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/ With what seems like quite a large number of these circles, isn't it odd that someone hasn't seen them being made and, have the facts on how it is done? Yes. What do you conclude from that?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , BillyG. wg...@... wrote: Sorry I have to ask, but has MMY ever addressed this issue other than that one lecture in the early '70's? Or, is there another way to reach Cosmic Consciousness without awakening kundalini? What is the tmorg's teaching on this subject? Anybody know? Is the word 'chakra' forbidden in TM circles? Yes, way back, before the sidhis were brought out, someone asked about this, saying they get these powerful energies up the spine and is it kundalini?... and Maharishi said something along the lines of, yes, but don't worry about it, it comes and it goes, it is just part of the evolution, Not something to get hung up on. Just let it come and let it go. Take it as it comes, and enjoy. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's Happy And Why?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote: Consider this: in surveys such as this one, the impoverished people of Calcutta, India, living in crude shacks and with little access to clean water, register about even with Americans on the happiness scale -- and well ahead of the Chinese, South Koreans, and Japanese. Meanwhile, relatively poor Puerto Ricans and Columbians, appear to be among the happiest people on the globe. I agree with your insinuation that material wealth does not bring true happiness in every case, and poverty does not mean true desperation in every case. However...on the one hand, this study only shows that there can be one of two things going on: 1. Ignorance is bliss (which is not a good situation that you would wish on your worst enemy) and/or 2. Freedom and education leads to the realization that we are livng in ignorance, and you want better for all mankind. (This, by the way, is your future gestalt as an enlightened person.) Either way, in 1 or 1 above, you want elightenment above all. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: Sorry I have to ask, but has MMY ever addressed this issue other than that one lecture in the early '70's? Or, is there another way to reach Cosmic Consciousness without awakening kundalini? What is the tmorg's teaching on this subject? Anybody know? Is the word 'chakra' forbidden in TM circles? Yes, way back, before the sidhis were brought out, someone asked about this, saying they get these powerful energies up the spine and is it kundalini?... and Maharishi said something along the lines of, yes, but don't worry about it, it comes and it goes, it is just part of the evolution, Not something to get hung up on. Just let it come and let it go. Take it as it comes, and enjoy. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] difference in heart structure due to TM practice?
http://www.excellenceinaction.globalgoodnews.com/2009/09-june/june2.html Study Shows Improved Heart Structure in Teens by Global Good News staff writer 2 June 2009 Black adolescents at risk for hypertension as adults improved their heart structure through daily practice of the Transcendental Meditation technique, according to findings presented recently at the annual meeting of the Society of Behavioral Medicine in Montreal. A study of 62 inner-city black adolescents in Augusta, Georgia, with high-normal blood pressure showed that those who practiced the Transcendental Meditation technique for 15 minutes twice a day reduced their risk of future heart failure by decreasing the size of the main pumping chamber of their hearts, according to Vernon A. Barnes, physiologist at the Medical College of Georgia and 1996 Ph.D. graduate of Maharishi University of Management. After practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique for eight months, they showed a significant decrease in left ventricular mass compared to an increase in controls who participated in health education classes. If this benefit could be maintained into adulthood, one could significantly reduce risk for cardiovascular implications, Dr. Barnes said. Left ventricular hypertrophy is one of the earliest events in the development of cardiovascular diseases. This is not a problem that occurs suddenly at older age, but seems to develop at a much younger age than previously thought. The research of Dr. Barnes and his colleagues at the Georgia Prevention Institute was supported by funding from the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute.
[FairfieldLife] Re: which guru best?
So, now the moderators are making a list of IP addresses No, only Alex, because he's related to a raja and we all know how valuable that sort of information is to the TM inquisition. Will the IP list be uploaded to the FFL files? I doubt it, but maybe Alex will sell it to you privately for no more than the new cost of learning TM. How come is it that two of the FFL 'moderators' are 'Amma' cultists? Why is 'moderators' always in quotes? You don't take our job seriously? How many 'moderators' are there on FFL? Four, but one apparently does no more than help with the design of the home page. I guess it's okay if you use the quotes for him. How many moderators would you like? How many FFL moderators work full-time at being FFL 'moderators'? It doesn't pay anything, just bad karma according to Nabby, so it's not a full-time or even a part-time job. It's more of a calling. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: So, now the moderators are making a list of IP addresses and some of the informants are posting people's real names and photos. But what I'd like to know is, who are the FFL 'moderators'? Will the IP list be uploaded to the FFL files? Other questions: How come is it that two of the FFL 'moderators' are 'Amma' cultists? How many 'moderators' are there on FFL? How many FFL moderators work full-time at being FFL 'moderators'? fflmod wrote: Some of new7892001's more interesting posts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/146709 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/146704 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/146700 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/122940 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/37714 Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no 'you,' only love. - Amma Alex Stanley wrote: The post originated from a Danish IP address. I searched the archives, and new7892001 has posted before, from a Danish IP, but with an excellent command of the English language.
[FairfieldLife] BG = idiot? -- was/// Does TM awaken kundalini? -- ps
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , off_world_beings no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: Sorry I have to ask, but has MMY ever addressed this issue other than that one lecture in the early '70's? Or, is there another way to reach Cosmic Consciousness without awakening kundalini? What is the tmorg's teaching on this subject? Anybody know? Is the word 'chakra' forbidden in TM circles? Yes, way back, before the sidhis were brought out, someone asked about this, saying they get these powerful energies up the spine and is it kundalini?... and Maharishi said something along the lines of, yes, but don't worry about it, it comes and it goes, it is just part of the evolution, Not something to get hung up on. Just let it come and let it go. Take it as it comes, and enjoy. OffWorld And no. the word Chakra is NOT forbidden in TM circles. Nothing is forbidden by Maharishi. Wake up you idiot. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009 http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/ Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009 http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/ With what seems like quite a large number of these circles, isn't it odd that someone hasn't seen them being made and, have the facts on how it is done? Yes. What do you conclude from that? Maybe I am not alert enough to see it is all BS. Still, they look like very precise patterns and, maybe could have some yet to be discovered meaning. I think if it were my farm, I would make some effort to find out.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?
BillyG wrote: Does TM awaken kundalini? Yes, Billy, it sure does and it's just about the fastest way on the planet to raise the Kundalini through the chakras. MMY explained this many times, but he did not use the metaphor 'kundalini' - he used the 'bubble diagram' metaphor. The term 'kundalini' is from the Nath tradition. During the process of intiation, there are 'setups' that lead to certain expectations. This happens through the use of metaphor; the kundalini' and 'bubble diagram' metaphors are the main examples. Obviously these metaphors are interpreted in different ways by different people. So, when the mantra is delivered, something happens. What happens is sometimes dictated by the setup - how the initiate interpreted the metaphor. But sometimes during intiation nothing happens, and for others an amazing thing happens - there is a spring sensation when you start transcending. Sometimes your head may tilt forward, then, with a snap, your head may rise up suddenly. That's the 'kundalini serpent' rising inside you toward the topmost chakra. The bubble diagram is descriptive of the 'kundalini', and for some, an awakening occurs. For others, there is a sense of energized enthusiam. As Marshy explained: We know, if we drop a stone in a pond, the ripples begin to move, and they move over the whole pond, reaching all the extremities. One slight stir in any part of the pond stirs the whole pond, influences the entire field of water, and its surroundings. Similarly, by every thought, word and action, every individual is setting forth influence in his surroundings, and that influence is not restricted to any boundaries. It goes on and on and reaches every level of creation. Source: 'The Seven States of Conciousness' The Untapped Source Of Power That Lies Within By Maharishi Mahesh Yogi The Beat Goes On Records (BGO CD331) (CD reissue of the 1967 album) Duration: 44:52 Read more: Subject: TM Power From: Willytex Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental Date: July 15, 2003 http://tinyurl.com/od3bh8
[FairfieldLife] Re: difference in heart structure due to TM practice?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , sparaig lengli...@... wrote: http://www.excellenceinaction.globalgoodnews.com/2009/09-june/june2.html http://www.excellenceinaction.globalgoodnews.com/2009/09-june/june2.htm\ l Study Shows Improved Heart Structure in Teens by Global Good News staff writer 2 June 2009 Black adolescents at risk for hypertension as adults improved their heart structure through daily practice of the Transcendental Meditation technique, according to findings presented recently at the annual meeting of the Society of Behavioral Medicine in Montreal. A study of 62 inner-city black adolescents in Augusta, Georgia, with high-normal blood pressure showed that those who practiced the Transcendental Meditation technique for 15 minutes twice a day reduced their risk of future heart failure by decreasing the size of the main pumping chamber of their hearts, according to Vernon A. Barnes, physiologist at the Medical College of Georgia and 1996 Ph.D. graduate of Maharishi University of Management. After practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique for eight months, they showed a significant decrease in left ventricular mass compared to an increase in controls who participated in health education classes. If this benefit could be maintained into adulthood, one could significantly reduce risk for cardiovascular implications, Dr. Barnes said. Left ventricular hypertrophy is one of the earliest events in the development of cardiovascular diseases. This is not a problem that occurs suddenly at older age, but seems to develop at a much younger age than previously thought. The research of Dr. Barnes and his colleagues at the Georgia Prevention Institute was supported by funding from the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute. Nice. thanks for posting this sparaig, very significant. The physical heart is the seat of so much more than pumping blood around the system. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: New Crop Circle at Knoll Down, nr Beckhampton, Wiltshire. Reported 1st June
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Nelson nelsonriddle2...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009 http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/ http://www.temporarytemples.co.uk/ Image Steve Alexander Copyright 2009 http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/ http://www.thecropcircleshop.com/ With what seems like quite a large number of these circles, isn't it odd that someone hasn't seen them being made and, have the facts on how it is done? Yes. What do you conclude from that? Maybe I am not alert enough to see it is all BS. Still, they look like very precise patterns and, maybe could have some yet to be discovered meaning. I think if it were my farm, I would make some effort to find out. It is an interesting point you made Nelson. I am an artist, and visited one of these crop circles before the phenomenon was really recognised internationally (actually I was taken to the site by a completely unrelated party ( in the 1980's in England, about 50 miles from Stonehenge -- a couple of old ladies took me there, followers of Krishnamurti, and ex TM'rs) -- coincidentally, the day after a friend and I had witnessed a very strange UFO ( that means unidentified - it was way up in the sky, very strange, and we did not know what it was -- ie. unidentified flying object.) We drove to the reported crop circle. When I saw it, I thought, even if they are fake it represents something that, as and artist, I understood...it represented a consciousness that was creative and intelligent, and profound. Even if it is fakers, they cannot help but tap into something profound, because they are not distinct from truth, no matter how hard they try. We are truth, truth is what we are. In fact, that is what they intend to do - tap into our archetypal nature - and as creatively intelligent people, they are able to do that. However, if they are aliens beaming some profound message from outer space, what is the difference? No matter if they are fakers, or hippies of the best intentions, or aliens from outer space... it does not matter. As an artist, they are beautiful, and that goes beyond all creed, color, or species ( or alien) We are all one, we all love beauty, truth, and life...wether republican or democrat, Russian or Jamaican, human or animal, Earthling or Alien. We are all the same. And it is beuatiful. OffWorld
[FairfieldLife] Re: Does TM awaken kundalini?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com , Richard J. Williams willy...@... wrote: BillyG wrote: Does TM awaken kundalini? Yes, Billy, it sure does and it's just about the fastest way on the planet to raise the Kundalini through the chakras. MMY explained this many times, but he did not use the metaphor 'kundalini' - he used the 'bubble diagram' metaphor. No that is NOT Kundalini, and the rest of your post is pure ignorance. Stop postng ignorance about Kundalini and TM. The bubble diagram DOES NOT represent kundalini in any way. Maharishi said kundalini rises and falls due to contact with the absolute. Pay no attention to it, just enjoy and do not get attached to it. It can be part of the process, that is all. OffWorld
