date:20090715

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > To All:
> > > > >
> > > > > A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide. 
See
> > link
> > > > >
> >
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world
> >
 > > >
> > > > Let me see if I've got this straight:
> > > >
> > > > * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
> > > > cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
> > > > of dignity and in each others' arms instead of
> > > > dying alone in some ghastly hospital room,
> > > > doped up on drugs or screaming, is "ignorance."
> > >
> > > The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth
> > > have a natural tendency to judge matters according to
> > > what other people think.  For that matter, they make
> > > decisions based on emotions and standards that they
> > > created for themselves.  In vedic terms, these are all
> > > "maya", or false images of water on the desert floor.
> >
> > John, assuming that you truly believe this:
> >
> > 1. Are you not a human being?
> > 2. If you are, do you not *share* this tendency you speak of?
> > 3. Do you not have emotions?
> > 4. Do you not have standards that you have created for
> >yourself?
> > 5. If you answered "Yes" to all of the questions above, are
> >*your* thoughts and ideas about the world not "maya," or
> > false images?
> >
> > Assuming that you are still sane enough to answer the above
> > questions honestly, do you not then agree that *every single
> > one* of your ideas about Jyotish and Ayurveda, *every single
> > one* of your Jyotish analyses and predictions, *every single one*
> > of your ideas about celibacy and its supposed value, and *every
> > single one* of your ideas about the "vedic literature" and its
> > supposed value are merely "maya," or false images?
> >
> > If so, I count on you to "do the right thing" and stop presenting
> > any of these things as if any of them were true, or worse, Truth.
> > Leave that to whatever you think is *not* immersed in "maya,"
> > and is not human. Thank you for your cooperation.
>
> IMHO, human beings in their present physiological makeup
> are capable of perceiving the Truth.  It just takes some
> effort and willingness to realize one's true potential.
> Guru Dev once said that human beings are in a better
> position than the demigods because we can still make
> progress.  On the other hand, the demigods are already
> immersed in celestial life that they cannot make any
> more progress towards Unity Consciousness.

As I suspected, John (see comment about sanity
above), you completely ignored the point *I* was
making and dove for the security of 1) theory
and 2) citing "authority."

It does not *matter* what the *theory* you believe
in says about "true potential* is. The only thing
relevant to what I was asking you to ponder is
whether *you* have realized *your* potential, right
here, right now, in this moment. If you answer
"Yes" to the five questions I posed, then you
pretty much have to admit that any thoughts or
ideas or concepts *OR* theories *you* have about
the world are JUST AS MUCH MAYA and
JUST AS MUCH ILLUSION as anyone else's.

But you can't do that. Instead you cite theory,
and cite "authority," in the person of "Guru Dev."
I do not hold Guru Dev to be an authority about
anything. He was just a guy. *You* may believe
that he had realized his "true potential," but
I do not, because I have no way of knowing that
is true. The only things I know about him are
the only things you know about him -- a bunch of
stories told by belief junkies who are so bhaktied
out that many of them can no longer hold jobs and
have to hide in reclusive communities working
for stipends so they can feed themselves.

If you want respect, John, *for once* deal with
the real issue. Which, in this case, is that you
made a statement that I agree with -- everything
that anyone knows about the world is illusion.
Then when I point out the *ramifications* of
believing in that statement for your tendency
to pronounce what you believe to be "truth" on
this forum, you ignore that completely and run
for the cover of theory and authority again.

Theories are just theories; they have no meaning
unless proved to be true. If you claim that this
one is true, and further claim to have realized
*your* "true potential" (which by your own state-
ment is the only way you could perceive anything
about the world other than maya or illusion), then
1) say so, and 2) PROVE IT. Otherwise you're
nothing more than a spiritual bullshitter.

And "citing authority" isn't going to cut it with
someon

[FairfieldLife] Sleep monitoring alarm clock






http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/16/technology/personaltech/16pogue.html


"...get yourself a Zeo alarm clock.

That's expensive, sure, but this one does a few things your basic
Wal-Mart
  special doesn't do.

It comes with an elastic headband, which you're supposed to wear to
bed each night. In its center, resting against the skin of your
forehead, there's a little transmitter pod, something like a digital
watch without the band. All night long, this thing measures your
brainwaves and transmits them wirelessly to the clock on your
nightstand.

When you wake, you put the headband back onto its charging shelf on the
clock. The screen comes to life, showing you a very cool graph of your
night.

You can walk through it using arrow keys. The clock, and the graph,
indicate where you were at each five-minute interval: awake, in light
sleep, in REM sleep or in deep sleep. You can also step through screens
that display your sleep-cycle tallies in huge digital numbers: "2:54
REM," "0:35 deep" and so on.

[FairfieldLife] 'Tex/Mexican Weed War Heats Up'


Heading down to the Mafia abyss...

A powerful Mexican drug cartel has unleashed a killing spree against the 
authorities in a challenge to the leadership of the President in his home state.

The bodies of a dozen federal anti-drug agents were found on a mountain highway 
in Michoacán, the home state of Felipe Calderón, on Monday.

The killing of the agents was the worst loss of life in a single attack since 
President Calderón took office in 2006, taking the war between the narcotics 
gangs and the Government into uncharted territory.

Their murders were the boldest of at least ten reprisal attacks since Arnoldo 
Rueda Medina, nicknamed La Minsa, was arrested on Saturday. He is reputedly the 
second-in-command of La Familia cartel in Michoacán.
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Six federal police officers and two soldiers were also killed in attacks on 
police stations and hotels where anti-drug agents were staying.

The surge in violence marks a potential shift in Mexico’s drug wars, which have 
claimed 11,000 lives during the presidency of Mr Calderón, who ordered the army 
to intervene.

Ciro Gomez Leyva, a columnist for the newspaper Milenio, described the killings 
as a Mexican version of the Tet offensive in Vietnam in 1968.

“In the war against the narcos, Saturday, July 11, seems like a kind of Tet 
offensive, the synchronised action by South Vietnamese guerrillas and the North 
Vietnamese Army against US troops at the end of January 1968 that, despite 
being characterised as a military disaster, created the perception that the 
otherwise invincible US Army would never win in Vietnam,” he wrote.

The perception that the war against drugs is being lost is pervasive. A poll 
published in Milenio said that only 28 per cent of Mexicans believed that the 
Government was winning, and more than half thought that it was losing.

Mr Calderón said: “The criminals will not be able to intimidate the federal 
Government. In this battle we will not give up, we will not hesitate, because 
what is at stake is Mexico’s peace and safety.”

Michoacán, on the Pacific coast, has become a battleground because it controls 
routes into the United States. It is also one of Mexico’s main producers of 
marijuana, opium poppies and synthetic drugs.

Mr Rueda was arrested in the Michoacán capital, Morelia. He is allegedly the 
right-hand-man to the reputed boss, Nazario Moreno Gonzalez, known as El Mas 
Loco, or the Craziest One.

Within hours of the arrest, gunmen from La Familia, armed with rifles and 
grenades, ambushed federal forces in seven cities.

Some of the attacks took place near tourist sites such as the arts-and-crafts 
centre of Patzcuaro and Zitacuaro, which is famous for its monarch butterflies.

In the most brutal attack, eleven men and one woman agent were abducted while 
off duty.

Their bodies were found stacked on the highway with death threats that read: 
“La Familia, join its ranks or leave” and “Let’s see if you try to arrest 
another one”.

La Familia has penetrated the power structure, allegedly obtaining protection 
from police and politicians.

Seven mayors, one former mayor and a state prosecutor are being held after a 
federal police sweep of allegedly corrupt politicians in May.

An arrest warrant has been issued for Julio Godoy, the half brother of a state 
Governor. Mr Godoy was elected to Congress last week as a member of the 
Democratic Revolution Party.

Analysts said that the killings were not necessarily a sign of the cartel’s 
strength, but were an escalation of the battle to contain them.

“This marks an important change in the drug war in that they are attacking 
federal forces directly,” Jorge Chabat, a drug expert, said.

“It also suggests the capture of this person has affected the operations of the 
cartel. It was a major blow and this is a reaction out of weakness, not 
strength.”

In separate Mexican drug violence, six gunmen were killed on Tuesday in the 
northern city of Monterrey. Gunmen killed the mayor of Namiquipa in Coahuila 
and four police officers were kidnapped in Piedras Negras.

In Tabasco state on the Gulf coast, prosecutors charged five alleged Gulf 
cartel hitmen with allegedly killing two policemen and eighteen of their 
relatives in February and May.

A drugs trade worth billions and severed heads on the dance floor

• Every year Mexican cartels smuggle illegal drugs worth about $40 billion (£24 
billion) into the United States, the world’s biggest market for narcotics. 
Mexico is a major source of heroin, methamphetamine and marijuana — and a key 
transit country for the vast amounts of cocaine that are transported over the 
border

• In 2008, 6,000 people died in drug violence in Mexico, according to President 
Calderón — almost double the 3,042 deaths that were recorded in 2007

• About 95 per cent of the killings were

[FairfieldLife] 'Congrats to Goldman Sacks! from Snoop...'


Hey~It's Snoop, gettin' down, with ya'all
Yo, you guy's at the Sacks, wow, that's all I can say...is OMG...
Yo, you guy's have no Shame!
Yo, yo, yo...man, you dudes take the cake...
You taken Mr. Pres. for a ride?
That ain't nice, now is it?
Hey, yo...wus up, you ain't fools, for sure...you ain't some kind of fools, 
now, is you?
A billion here, a billion there
Yo, who's countin' anyway?
Yo, you know who's countin'...
mr. satan?
Yo, 
I'm 
Out...

Snoop.

[FairfieldLife] Bursting the bubble of ignorance (was Re: Ignorance in High Society?)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > To All:
> > > >
> > > > A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide.  See
> link
> > > >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world
>  >
> > >
> > > Let me see if I've got this straight:
> > >
> > > * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
> > > cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
> > > of dignity and in each others' arms instead of
> > > dying alone in some ghastly hospital room,
> > > doped up on drugs or screaming, is "ignorance."
> >
> > The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth
> > have a natural tendency to judge matters according to
> > what other people think.  For that matter, they make
> > decisions based on emotions and standards that they
> > created for themselves.  In vedic terms, these are all
> > "maya", or false images of water on the desert floor.
> 
> John, assuming that you truly believe this:
> 
> 1. Are you not a human being?
> 2. If you are, do you not *share* this tendency you speak of?
> 3. Do you not have emotions?
> 4. Do you not have standards that you have created for yourself?
> 5. If you answered "Yes" to all of the questions above, are *your*
> thoughts and ideas about the world not "maya," or false images?
> Assuming that you are still sane enough to answer the above
> questions honestly, do you not then agree that *every single
> one* of your ideas about Jyotish and Ayurveda, *every single
> one* of your Jyotish analyses and predictions, *every single one*
> of your ideas about celibacy and its supposed value, and *every
> single one* of your ideas about the "vedic literature" and its
> supposed value are merely "maya," or false images?
> 
> If so, I count on you to "do the right thing" and stop presenting
> any of these things as if any of them were true, or worse, Truth.
> Leave that to whatever you think is *not* immersed in "maya,"
> and is not human. Thank you for your cooperation.

IMHO, human beings in their present physiological makeup are capable of 
perceiving the Truth.  It just takes some effort and willingness to realize 
one's true potential.  Guru Dev once said that human beings are in a better 
position than the demigods because we can still make progress.  On the other 
hand, the demigods are already immersed in celestial life that they cannot make 
any more progress towards Unity Consciousness.

By the way, the photos were fantastic.







> 
> See the following series of visual aids to help you understand the
> "point that you were really making" without realizing what it was:
> 
>   [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
> 
> 
>   [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   [Bubble bursting sequence]
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   [ Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and 2012

Heh, it's just a 162 MB WMV file. Right click on it and save it to a 
folder. Then you can go to any point in the video.

shempmcgurk wrote:
> Doug:
>
> I got to the 1:37 minute mark of the June 12th video stream that you linked 
> to.
>
> I could go no farther.  This Dutch/Cult version of Sesame Street for the 
> Adult Brainwashed made me want to stop meditating, reach for the phone, and 
> contact the nearest deprogramming professional.
>
> I didn't even get to the Hagelin part...I even tried to fast forward but the 
> Window wouldn't let me.
>
> How could you sit through that crap?
>
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  
> wrote:
>   
>> Jai Guru Dev FFL,
>>
>> It is highly noteworthy that on the Global Family chats recently they chose 
>> to replay the presentation of Dr. John Hagelin going through the whole 
>> science.  The whole teaching and the whole TMmovement was in that speech for 
>> context.  The June 12 chat.  The urgency pops out of that, "it is a noble 
>> cause we are engaged in,".   In Hagelin's chat is a video clip that any 
>> serious student of  human progress would view.  A presentation tightly 
>> packed as a composite of everything.  Evidently, in cause something needs be 
>> done about non-meditators and their non-meditation ways.
>>
>>
>> Global Chat:
>> http://212.178.154.22/gfc-archive.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Be together etc… 
>>
>> JGD, 
>> -Doug in FF
>>
>> 
>
>
>
>   






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?


> >   
> Not if they've been doing sadhana for awhile.  They should be at least 
> judging matters as "lines on water."  I learned years ago not to judge 
> anything on how other people think.  This came when as a high school 
> jazz musician back in the 1960s that the public cared little for good 
> music so I cared little for them.  This BTW is very typical of musicians 
> and artists period.

I agree with much of what you're saying.  Everyone has their own personal taste 
for a particular music genre.  I myself used to play the alto saxophone in a 
college class.  I enjoyed the jazz numbers we did, particularly those by Neil 
Hefti (such as "Li'l Darlin").


> > The key to better living is take life as it comes and not be fettered by 
> > one's own perceptions of what the good life should be, nor other people's 
> > concept of the good life should be.  In other words, the phenomenal world 
> > will always be changing and is not and cannot be perfect as it should be.
> >   

> Hell no.  You SHOULD be cutting through the world regardless of how it 
> is from the platform of silence. It's nothing but an interplay of energy 
> anyway and a dream.  BUT that doesn't mean that you shouldn't contribute 
> your part to making it a better world and that might be taking a 
> pro-active role for change.  We can just let a bunch of dumbass 
> billionaires ruin the world.

I agree with what you say.  Perhaps, MMY's heaven on earth would come soon 
enough.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and 2012

2009-07-15 Thread dhamiltony2k5

Om Dear Shemp,
Crap?  Oh man you got to stick with it and at least git beyond that sesame 
street opening.  It is foundational stuff.  Explains in context what is now his 
(Hagelin's) part of the movement is about.  

Eighteen months after Maharishi, seems now there are three prongs working.  
Hagelin and Lynch going after the secular presentation of TM, the pundit 
chanting program,  And then MUM.   This tape is context for them all.  Was made 
sometime before Maharishi died as a statement.  Kind of like Hagelin rolled up 
his sleeves and went headlong for it as a project.  Strategically it was sort 
of a TMmovement unified field theory of mission.  In effect, a recapitulation 
before Maharishi died.  Is a lot of large high thinking in it & worth an effort 
to listen.  Is pretty special what they are up to in context.

To get through it, could play it as background whilst you work otherwise is one 
way of getting through it.

Of course is bad enough here that we have people trying to write on FFL who are 
not even practcing meditators, but at least folks could get on one page 
together by listening together to Dr. John Hagelin this way.  

Could proly do the world some lot of good.  The science evidently says it would 
be even better if people would actually do their spiritual meditation practices.

With Best Regards,
-D in FF

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
>
> Doug:
> 
> I got to the 1:37 minute mark of the June 12th video stream that you linked 
> to.
> 
> I could go no farther.  This Dutch/Cult version of Sesame Street for the 
> Adult Brainwashed made me want to stop meditating, reach for the phone, and 
> contact the nearest deprogramming professional.
> 
> I didn't even get to the Hagelin part...I even tried to fast forward but the 
> Window wouldn't let me.
> 
> How could you sit through that crap?
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  wrote:
> >
> > Jai Guru Dev FFL,
> > 
> > It is highly noteworthy that on the Global Family chats recently they chose 
> > to replay the presentation of Dr. John Hagelin going through the whole 
> > science.  The whole teaching and the whole TMmovement was in that speech 
> > for context.  The June 12 chat.  The urgency pops out of that, "it is a 
> > noble cause we are engaged in,".   In Hagelin's chat is a video clip that 
> > any serious student of  human progress would view.  A presentation tightly 
> > packed as a composite of everything.  Evidently, in cause something needs 
> > be done about non-meditators and their non-meditation ways.
> > 
> > 
> > Global Chat:
> > http://212.178.154.22/gfc-archive.html
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Be together etc 
> > 
> > JGD, 
> > -Doug in FF
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Solution to the Iranian "problem"

2009-07-15 Thread yifuxero

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/39688/bunker_buster_bomb/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Drug-Dependent Pundits Riot

2009-07-15 Thread scienceofabundance

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex  wrote:
>
> scienceofabundance wrote:
> > I see nothing on the page you referred
> > to about Dr. Lonsdorf seeing the pundits...
> >
> The boy pundits see the doctor all the time,
> according to my sources in Vedic City. 

Given that there is nothing in the URL you posted about Dr. Lonsdorf related to 
Dr. Lonsdorf seeing the pundits, it has not relevance. Why did you post it? 

Your final "argument" [final two sentences above] remains as it was initially - 
"you have sources."  Sources - no evidence.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

2009-07-15 Thread Nelson

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
> >
> > I find the idea worrying. Someone with depression wanted
> > to visit this clinic, not sure how it turned out but what
> > doctor could kill someone *just* because they wanted to die?
> > Depression is always curable, all it takes is effort and
> > a search for the personal best cure. I don't think it should
> > legal anywhere for someone to be helped to die because they
> > are unhappy, for whatever reason, it's a part of life. Wanting
> > to die because your partner is dead is normal but it aint 
> > the end of the world. people do get over it.
> > 
> > I think all this is symptomatic of our cultures' alienation
> > from the natural process of dying and mourning. There's
> > a real feeling nowadays that if someone doesn't live a full 
> > and happy life until they are 90+ someones gotta be sued.
> > Life aint like that, it's bitch.
> > 
> > Having said that, I've watched good friends die long and
> > painful deaths and I think the attitude that we have to suffer
> > til the bitter end is wrong. I wouldn't let my dog suffer like
> > that, why inflict it on people I love? But it's not for the 
> > depressed or unhappy, emotional pain goes away. Lying on a 
> > table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers 
> > can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it?
> >
> 
> It's painful to see a loved one suffer, painful to watch them die and painful 
> to mourn. Each step of goodbye, hoping the end will not come, knowing it 
> will, brings us closer to our own mortality. Feeling the kinship of humanity 
> and compassion for those bereft of courage at loss, naturally we reach out in 
> friendship to fill the void with wise counsel and protection until the tears 
> have passed. Choice is just around the corner of now, balancing life and 
> death decisions. Knowing we are not alone helps ease the burden of rightly or 
> wrongly choosing an unknown. Even so, no one can choose for you. In the end 
> you will be alone passing into yet another unknown.
>
  Interesting observation RD.
  I tend to think it would be returning to where we came from and, that we 
might find it familiar.
  Years back, I wrote a poem about such feelings and, still think it might have 
some merit.

[FairfieldLife] 'Help Legalize Whiskey in Kentucky!'


[A Non-Seaquarium!]...

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cheney's Assassination Ops

2009-07-15 Thread off_world_beings



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>  >
> > Seems like Dickie was sending out US military to kill off people he
> felt
> > were enemies of the state." See, we were living in a dictatorship
the
> > last 8 years:
> >
> > Investigative reporter Seymour Hersh dropped a bombshell on Tuesday
> when
> > he told an audience at the University of Minnesota that the military
> was
> > running an "executive assassination ring" throughout the Bush years
> > which reported directly to former Vice President Dick Cheney.
> > More here:
> >
>
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Hersh_US_has_been_running_executive_0311.h\
\
> tml
>
 html>
> >
>
>
> Benizir Bhutto - murdered -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_Benazir_Bhutto
> 
>
> Michael Connell: GOP consultant killed in plane crash was warned of
> sabotage:
>
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Killed_GOP_pilot_suspected_plane_had_1222.\
\
> html
>
 .html>
>
> DC Madam: "They will make it look like suicide" Two high profile
> escorts, going to go public with evidence, "commit suicide"
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzvrgQ5hOM4&feature=related
> 
>
> Anthrax Gevernment Scientist Bruce Ivins "Commits Suicide":
>
http://www.newser.com/story/33915/anthrax-case-scientist-commits-suicide\
\
> .html
>
 e.html>
>
> "There is very good reason to believe that Raymond Lemme (who was
barely
> mentioned by our corporate news media, if mentioned at all) had
> information shortly before his death, in July 2003, in a Valdosta,
> Georgia motel room, that could have blown open the plans of George W.
> Bush and his handlers to "win" the 2004 Presidential election"
> http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Time%20for%20change/402
> 
>
>
> Dr David Kelly, a defence ministry biologist and former UN arms
> inspector - "committs suicide"
> http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/07/20/1058639648013.html
> 
>
> Osama Bin Laden killed by Omar Sheikh???" -reported by Benazir Bhutto
to
> have been murdered: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg
> 
>
> "Former Pakistani President, Pervez Musharraf, in his book In the Line
> of Fire stated that Sheikh was originally recruited by British
> intelligence agency, MI6, while studying at the London School of
> Economics. He alleges Omar Sheikh was sent to the Balkans by MI6 to
> engage in jihadi operations. Musharraf later went on to state, "At
some
> point, he probably became a rogue or double agent".[7]"
>
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20476793-601,00.html
>
 >
>
> Daniel Pearl???
>
>
> OffWorld
>


The plot thickens.
CIA linked to Bhutto's murder?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgeq1CuJb0w


OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Jedi Knight McChrystal

2009-07-15 Thread yifuxero

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175074

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > 
> > > Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen
> > > to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by
> > > all means check out the DVD they made of "Live
> > > Roadrunning." It's marvelous, but the shocker is
> > > to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections
> > > of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and
> > > her prematurely gray hair only made her look more
> > > attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously*
> > > gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as
> > > if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even
> > > MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting.
> > 
> > I agree. I have a number of friends who use it, 
> > and it's pretty obvious up close, esp. if you're 
> > used to the persons previous range of facial 
> > expressions. Yet other friends have had skin 
> > peels of faces lifts. They never look quite 
> > the same. The good news is the first  
> > replacement epidermis material, Epicel, is 
> > now available, although at this time just for 
> > burn victims. Expect fairly soon to be able to  
> > replace your skin. Carticel is also approved 
> > and is in use for  replacing your knee cartilage 
> > with cells cultured again from your  
> > own. In some cases it can completely restore 
> > original function. With Obama removing the Bush 
> > restrictions on stem cell lines, it's very  
> > likely such innovations will only accelerate.
> 
> In "A Brief History of Time," Stephen Hawking 
> cops to being a fan of Star Trek. He observes 
> that, despite all the gee-whiz technology 
> displayed by the series, the Star Trek characters 
> resemble people of today - to which Hawking says, 
> "I doubt it." He points out, quite in line with 
> the observations above, that people will engineer 
> themselves to look very different in the next few 
> hundred years. Add to this prospect the likelihood 
> of robotic sex partners, and it's enough to fuel 
> all manner of science fiction plots.
>



Hey, just look at how people have engineered themselves to look today compared 
to, say, the 1950s.

Remember the Superman Series?  The people truly looked like they lived on the 
type of breakfasts that that family in "Pleasantville" ate every morning.  
People were top heavy and pasty.

Today, the young people are 6-pack-ab like with golden complexions.

People today truly look good.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and 2012

Doug:

I got to the 1:37 minute mark of the June 12th video stream that you linked to.

I could go no farther.  This Dutch/Cult version of Sesame Street for the Adult 
Brainwashed made me want to stop meditating, reach for the phone, and contact 
the nearest deprogramming professional.

I didn't even get to the Hagelin part...I even tried to fast forward but the 
Window wouldn't let me.

How could you sit through that crap?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  wrote:
>
> Jai Guru Dev FFL,
> 
> It is highly noteworthy that on the Global Family chats recently they chose 
> to replay the presentation of Dr. John Hagelin going through the whole 
> science.  The whole teaching and the whole TMmovement was in that speech for 
> context.  The June 12 chat.  The urgency pops out of that, "it is a noble 
> cause we are engaged in,".   In Hagelin's chat is a video clip that any 
> serious student of  human progress would view.  A presentation tightly packed 
> as a composite of everything.  Evidently, in cause something needs be done 
> about non-meditators and their non-meditation ways.
> 
> 
> Global Chat:
> http://212.178.154.22/gfc-archive.html
> 
> 
> 
> Be together etc 
> 
> JGD, 
> -Doug in FF
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

2009-07-15 Thread Patrick Gillam

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
> On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> > Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen
> > to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by
> > all means check out the DVD they made of "Live
> > Roadrunning." It's marvelous, but the shocker is
> > to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections
> > of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and
> > her prematurely gray hair only made her look more
> > attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously*
> > gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as
> > if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even
> > MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting.
> 
> I agree. I have a number of friends who use it, 
> and it's pretty obvious up close, esp. if you're 
> used to the persons previous range of facial 
> expressions. Yet other friends have had skin 
> peels of faces lifts. They never look quite 
> the same. The good news is the first  
> replacement epidermis material, Epicel, is 
> now available, although at this time just for 
> burn victims. Expect fairly soon to be able to  
> replace your skin. Carticel is also approved 
> and is in use for  replacing your knee cartilage 
> with cells cultured again from your  
> own. In some cases it can completely restore 
> original function. With Obama removing the Bush 
> restrictions on stem cell lines, it's very  
> likely such innovations will only accelerate.

In "A Brief History of Time," Stephen Hawking 
cops to being a fan of Star Trek. He observes 
that, despite all the gee-whiz technology 
displayed by the series, the Star Trek characters 
resemble people of today - to which Hawking says, 
"I doubt it." He points out, quite in line with 
the observations above, that people will engineer 
themselves to look very different in the next few 
hundred years. Add to this prospect the likelihood 
of robotic sex partners, and it's enough to fuel 
all manner of science fiction plots.

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[FairfieldLife] Sunday Morning Drive To College Cove

2009-07-15 Thread Marek Reavis

Here's an inconsequential narrative, but it's illustrated with seven photos 
that I'm putting into a new album in the Photos section ("College Cove"), and 
they are the actual story, or at least, worth looking at for their own sake.  
These comments only augment them with place names and anecdotal trivia.

Last Sunday I went out in the morning to see if there were any waves anywhere.  
The surf these last few weeks has been small to smallish 
(waist-high/shoulder-high) but very surfable, particularly for a longboard.  
But Sunday (and Monday, too, unfortunately) there were no waves anywhere; it 
was the vast Pacific Lake all up and all down.  On Sunday, the last surfbreak I 
checked out was a spot I've never surfed before, called College Cove.  

It's just a couple of miles out of the little town of Trinidad and there's a 
small parking lot at the end of a short gravel road which tees off of a twisty, 
up-and-down, one lane road, called Stagecoach, that heads north from Trinidad.  
You take a small trail at the far end of the parking lot through the forest 
maybe two- or three-hundred yards or so, and there's a little spot to stand in 
the trees right at the top of the bluff; and from here you can look down and 
see if the surf is breaking. (see, Photo No. 1.)

As you can see for yourself, it was calm and flat, but enticing nonetheless, 
even if not for surfing.  There's a small, stepped trail leading down from the 
left of the view spot and it wends down the bluff through the trees.  Flowers, 
ferns and foliage of all sorts shoulder the trail the whole way down to the 
beach. (Photo No. 2.)

It's not too far before you glimpse the shorebreak at the bottom of the trail. 
(Photo No. 3.) College Cove is a lovely arc of soft sand and scattered sea 
stacks tucked into the redwood and deciduous forest that blankets the hills and 
valleys that meet the ocean here in Humboldt.  This is a view looking south 
from where the trail empties onto the beach.  (Photo No. 4.)  Here is another 
view, looking north while standing among anemone-covered rocks exposed during 
low tide. (Photo No. 5.) And a sight-line through sea stacks to Trinidad Head.  
(Photo No. 6.)

No one but myself.  I walked along the curve of the beach and listened to the 
gentle crash of tiny waves as they made their own small contribution to the 
beach -- the lightest and siltiest of sea sand.

At the far end of the cove, I started to climb one of the larger stacks, one 
with trees and brush on top, but after a while I thought better of the idea and 
made my way back down.  As I strolled back to the trail at the other end of the 
cove I glanced back one more time at the sea and just as I did, the smooth, 
grey back of a dolphin broke the surface and arced quietly across the still 
water.  I stayed and watched for another few minutes while two porpoises lazily 
dawdled in the green sea that lapped my feet.  Never got that photo.

There was work to do Sunday afternoon, jail visits with clients and reviews of 
police reports in an ongoing trial, and I'd hoped to get some time in the water 
before all that; but I wasn't dissappointed in the least with the morning that 
it turned out to be.

Got in the truck and headed home.  (Photo No. 7.)

[FairfieldLife] TM and 2012

2009-07-15 Thread dhamiltony2k5

Jai Guru Dev FFL,

It is highly noteworthy that on the Global Family chats recently they chose to 
replay the presentation of Dr. John Hagelin going through the whole science.  
The whole teaching and the whole TMmovement was in that speech for context.  
The June 12 chat.  The urgency pops out of that, "it is a noble cause we are 
engaged in,".   In Hagelin's chat is a video clip that any serious student of  
human progress would view.  A presentation tightly packed as a composite of 
everything.  Evidently, in cause something needs be done about non-meditators 
and their non-meditation ways.


Global Chat:
http://212.178.154.22/gfc-archive.html



Be together etc 

JGD, 
-Doug in FF

[FairfieldLife] ‘Impact on World Consciousness!’


Who has had a greater impact on World Consciousness?
Maharishi Mahesh Yogi or Dalai Lama?
Foolish question, but I put it out, anyway...

Think,even the impact, of the Beatles music,
 The music, after India, many of George Harrison's songs...
Many were inspired by Maharishi...
(Besides the ‘Sexy Sadie’ tune, which John appoligized for in his last 
interview)...
There are so many areas, seen and unseen,
Which Maharishi effected,
And still effects, by his teaching...

Not to single out Dalia Lama...
I have nothing against the man...
There’s just not too much of a consciousness changing experience, there...
In my humble opinion...
r.g.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

 (snip)_ 
> Again, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. I had
> a friend who was manic-depressive who made a *heroic*
> effort to get better--from one medication to the next,
> hospitalization, therapy--for many years with no
> discernible improvement. Finally she decided enough was
> enough and jumped off a building.
> 
> She had lots of friends who cared for her deeply and
> had done everything they could to help. Why couldn't
> she have died peacefully with them at her side wishing
> her a good journey?
> 
>  Lying on a 
> > table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers 
> > can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it?
> 
> Shouldn't death be considered a part of life? Especially
> if it's your own?
> 
> (This is my 50th; see you in a few days.)
>
Happy Birthday to You...Happy Birthday to you, on so on...lalala.
Now, Welcome to the other side of 50...
Ok, short break;
Don't touch that dial...
We'll be right back...

If you die, while your depressed, won't that make the depression worse, when 
your, 'lost in space', without the chance to work through the depression, until 
your next incarnation, which may take forever...
But, since forever, when your dead, goes by fast, then no problemo...
You'll just need to work on that depressive thingy, next time around...

BTW, many times, when these people are so possessed with whatever...they just 
might need an exorcism...or see a Shaman, who can release these ones, from the 
'Suicide Demon'...
Something those suicidal bombers, could use as well...a real good exorcism or 
Shamanic Demon Blow-out...
Over and out...
r.g.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> >
> > I can certainly see how a cat can control the mind of John Manning.
> > 
> > Sounds like the plot of a bad "Star Trek" episode.
> 
> 
> 
> And the Shremp says 'I' don't have a sense of hyoomer.




Ya gotta admit that ya set yerself up fer that one, Bub.  The rest was just 
natural law taking its course...




> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study 
> > > points to the obvious. It's your cat.
> > > 
> > > [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)]
> > > 
> > > Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of 
> > > urgent-sounding, high-pitched meow, according to the findings.
> > > 
> > > This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people 
> > > usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this 
> > > purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans 
> > > find these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore.
> > > 
> > > "The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with 
> > > contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response," said Karen 
> > > McComb of the University of Sussex. "Solicitation purring is probably 
> > > more acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats 
> > > ejected from the bedroom."
> > > 
> > > They know us
> > > 
> > > Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human 
> > > infant cries.
> > > 
> > > McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' 
> > > sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, 
> > > including the cry within the purr could make the sound "less harmonic and 
> > > thus more difficult to habituate to," she said.
> > > 
> > > McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, 
> > > who would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent 
> > > purr. After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of 
> > > their cats also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies 
> > > vocal communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the 
> > > manipulative meow.
> > > 
> > > Tough to test
> > > 
> > > Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries 
> > > around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries 
> > > in front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to 
> > > record their pets' cries  capturing the sounds made by cats when they 
> > > were seeking food and when they were not. In all, the team collected 
> > > recordings from 10 different cats.
> > > 
> > > The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not 
> > > all of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never 
> > > had a cat themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively 
> > > seeking food  the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry  as more 
> > > urgent and less pleasant than those made in other contexts.
> > > 
> > > When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded 
> > > cry, leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for 
> > > those calls decreased significantly.
> > > 
> > > McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal 
> > > purring, "but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when 
> > > it proves effective in generating a response from humans." In fact, not 
> > > all cats use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems 
> > > to most often develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with 
> > > their owners rather than those living in large households, where their 
> > > purrs might be overlooked.
> > > 
> > > The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current 
> > > Biology. 
> > > 
> > > ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html
> > >
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maddow interview on the new Consumer Financial Protection Agency

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Rachel conducts a very revealing interview with Elizabeth Warren, chair of 
> Congressional oversight for TARP, on the newly proposed Consumer Financial 
> Protection Agency.
> 
> You may be surprised when you see what this protection entails, but you'll 
> probably not be surprised at all at how and why the Big Money financial 
> industry desperately wants to kill it.
> 
> Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqx1FFdTeak
>
Why would the 'Big Money Financial Industry' want to support it?
They paid to learn all the tricks of the trade...(Clever Financial Vampires, 
commonly known as MBA's)...
Why would they want to give you protection, from their need to have their 
monthly blood sucking orgies, with interest compounded as often as possible...
r.g.

[FairfieldLife] Maddow interview on the new Consumer Financial Protection Agency



Rachel conducts a very revealing interview with Elizabeth Warren, chair of 
Congressional oversight for TARP, on the newly proposed Consumer Financial 
Protection Agency.

You may be surprised when you see what this protection entails, but you'll 
probably not be surprised at all at how and why the Big Money financial 
industry desperately wants to kill it.

Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqx1FFdTeak

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
>
> I can certainly see how a cat can control the mind of John Manning.
> 
> Sounds like the plot of a bad "Star Trek" episode.



And the Shremp says 'I' don't have a sense of hyoomer.



> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study 
> > points to the obvious. It's your cat.
> > 
> > [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)]
> > 
> > Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of 
> > urgent-sounding, high-pitched meow, according to the findings.
> > 
> > This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people 
> > usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this 
> > purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find 
> > these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore.
> > 
> > "The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with 
> > contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response," said Karen 
> > McComb of the University of Sussex. "Solicitation purring is probably more 
> > acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats 
> > ejected from the bedroom."
> > 
> > They know us
> > 
> > Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant 
> > cries.
> > 
> > McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' 
> > sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, 
> > including the cry within the purr could make the sound "less harmonic and 
> > thus more difficult to habituate to," she said.
> > 
> > McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who 
> > would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. 
> > After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats 
> > also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal 
> > communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow.
> > 
> > Tough to test
> > 
> > Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries 
> > around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in 
> > front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record 
> > their pets' cries  capturing the sounds made by cats when they were 
> > seeking food and when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings 
> > from 10 different cats.
> > 
> > The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not 
> > all of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had 
> > a cat themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively 
> > seeking food  the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry  as more 
> > urgent and less pleasant than those made in other contexts.
> > 
> > When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, 
> > leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those 
> > calls decreased significantly.
> > 
> > McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal 
> > purring, "but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when 
> > it proves effective in generating a response from humans." In fact, not all 
> > cats use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to 
> > most often develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their 
> > owners rather than those living in large households, where their purrs 
> > might be overlooked.
> > 
> > The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current 
> > Biology. 
> > 
> > ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds

I can certainly see how a cat can control the mind of John Manning.

Sounds like the plot of a bad "Star Trek" episode.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study points 
> to the obvious. It's your cat.
> 
> [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)]
> 
> Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of urgent-sounding, 
> high-pitched meow, according to the findings.
> 
> This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people 
> usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this 
> purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find 
> these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore.
> 
> "The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with 
> contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response," said Karen 
> McComb of the University of Sussex. "Solicitation purring is probably more 
> acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats ejected 
> from the bedroom."
> 
> They know us
> 
> Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant 
> cries.
> 
> McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' 
> sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, including 
> the cry within the purr could make the sound "less harmonic and thus more 
> difficult to habituate to," she said.
> 
> McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who 
> would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. 
> After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats 
> also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal 
> communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow.
> 
> Tough to test
> 
> Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries 
> around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in 
> front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record their 
> pets' cries  capturing the sounds made by cats when they were seeking food 
> and when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings from 10 
> different cats.
> 
> The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not all 
> of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had a cat 
> themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively seeking food  
> the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry  as more urgent and less 
> pleasant than those made in other contexts.
> 
> When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, 
> leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those 
> calls decreased significantly.
> 
> McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal 
> purring, "but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when it 
> proves effective in generating a response from humans." In fact, not all cats 
> use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to most often 
> develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their owners rather 
> than those living in large households, where their purrs might be overlooked.
> 
> The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current 
> Biology. 
> 
> ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Bursting the bubble of ignorance (was Re: Ignorance in High Society?)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis"  wrote:
>
> Beautiful photographs.  To see for the first time how that 
> particular event happens, step by step, after a lifetime 
> of seeing bubbles bursting is really satisfying.
> 
> Thanks.

De nada. Details about how these photos were taken are here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1199149/Super-slow-motion-pictures-soap-bubble-bursting-stunning-detail.html


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > To All:
> > > > >
> > > > > A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide.  See
> > link
> > > > >
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world
> >  > >
> > > >
> > > > Let me see if I've got this straight:
> > > >
> > > > * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
> > > > cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
> > > > of dignity and in each others' arms instead of
> > > > dying alone in some ghastly hospital room,
> > > > doped up on drugs or screaming, is "ignorance."
> > >
> > > The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth
> > > have a natural tendency to judge matters according to
> > > what other people think.  For that matter, they make
> > > decisions based on emotions and standards that they
> > > created for themselves.  In vedic terms, these are all
> > > "maya", or false images of water on the desert floor.
> > 
> > John, assuming that you truly believe this:
> > 
> > 1. Are you not a human being?
> > 2. If you are, do you not *share* this tendency you speak of?
> > 3. Do you not have emotions?
> > 4. Do you not have standards that you have created for yourself?
> > 5. If you answered "Yes" to all of the questions above, are *your*
> > thoughts and ideas about the world not "maya," or false images?
> > Assuming that you are still sane enough to answer the above
> > questions honestly, do you not then agree that *every single
> > one* of your ideas about Jyotish and Ayurveda, *every single
> > one* of your Jyotish analyses and predictions, *every single one*
> > of your ideas about celibacy and its supposed value, and *every
> > single one* of your ideas about the "vedic literature" and its
> > supposed value are merely "maya," or false images?
> > 
> > If so, I count on you to "do the right thing" and stop presenting
> > any of these things as if any of them were true, or worse, Truth.
> > Leave that to whatever you think is *not* immersed in "maya,"
> > and is not human. Thank you for your cooperation.
> > 
> > See the following series of visual aids to help you understand the
> > "point that you were really making" without realizing what it was:
> > 
> >   [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
> > 
> > 
> >   [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   [Bubble bursting sequence]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   [ Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your 
> > > cat, a new study points to the obvious. It's your cat.
> > 
> > **
> > 
> > I'm all in favor of cat-based humor, but the fact is that 
> > cats do accept human dominance. In the wild, cats proudly 
> > dislay their excreta as a way to mark their territory; in 
> > a house, cats bury their poop in the box so as not to 
> > offend the human masters of the territory.
> 



> How many times have you shit in their cat box, Bob?
> 
> If your answer is "Never," then it seems to me that 
> marking their territory is working quite well.
> 
> :-)
>




White man speak with fork-ed tongue...

[FairfieldLife] Bursting the bubble of ignorance (was Re: Ignorance in High Society?)

2009-07-15 Thread Marek Reavis

Beautiful photographs.  To see for the first time how that particular event 
happens, step by step, after a lifetime of seeing bubbles bursting is really 
satisfying.

Thanks.

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > To All:
> > > >
> > > > A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide.  See
> link
> > > >
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world
>  >
> > >
> > > Let me see if I've got this straight:
> > >
> > > * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
> > > cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
> > > of dignity and in each others' arms instead of
> > > dying alone in some ghastly hospital room,
> > > doped up on drugs or screaming, is "ignorance."
> >
> > The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth
> > have a natural tendency to judge matters according to
> > what other people think.  For that matter, they make
> > decisions based on emotions and standards that they
> > created for themselves.  In vedic terms, these are all
> > "maya", or false images of water on the desert floor.
> 
> John, assuming that you truly believe this:
> 
> 1. Are you not a human being?
> 2. If you are, do you not *share* this tendency you speak of?
> 3. Do you not have emotions?
> 4. Do you not have standards that you have created for yourself?
> 5. If you answered "Yes" to all of the questions above, are *your*
> thoughts and ideas about the world not "maya," or false images?
> Assuming that you are still sane enough to answer the above
> questions honestly, do you not then agree that *every single
> one* of your ideas about Jyotish and Ayurveda, *every single
> one* of your Jyotish analyses and predictions, *every single one*
> of your ideas about celibacy and its supposed value, and *every
> single one* of your ideas about the "vedic literature" and its
> supposed value are merely "maya," or false images?
> 
> If so, I count on you to "do the right thing" and stop presenting
> any of these things as if any of them were true, or worse, Truth.
> Leave that to whatever you think is *not* immersed in "maya,"
> and is not human. Thank you for your cooperation.
> 
> See the following series of visual aids to help you understand the
> "point that you were really making" without realizing what it was:
> 
>   [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
> 
> 
>   [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   [Bubble bursting sequence]
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   [ Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> 
> > * Believing that someone who is old enough to
> > be a grandfather but who still enjoys sex is
> > "acting like a teenybopper"
> 
> There are many more ways, of course, in which
> Barry "acts like a teenybopper."
> 
> 
> > * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
> > cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
> > of dignity and in each others' arms instead of 
> > dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, 
> > doped up on drugs or screaming, is "ignorance."
> 
> Although Barry gets his facts wrong, as usual (the
> conductor was not terminally ill and didn't have
> cancer, his wife did; and they didn't "die in each
> other's arms" but on beds next to each other,
> holding hands), I totally agree with his
> perspective. It's *barbaric* for people not to be
> allowed to die in comfort at a time and in a place
> and by means of their own choosing, *whether they're
> ill or not*.
> 
> Seems to me it's the most fundamental violation of
> human rights to force somebody to endure whatever
> unpleasantness they want to avoid by taking their
> life, whether it's dying in pain or having to live
> without their beloved partner, or simply because
> whatever made their lives worth living--in their own
> judgment--was no longer available to them.
> 
> (In addition to facing the loss of his terminally
> ill wife, the conductor had also become blind and
> almost deaf.)
> 
> Since society is not harmed by a person taking
> their own life, and since nobody knows what happens
> after death, the individual should be free to decide
> whether they want to risk the chance of negative
> repercussions in the afterlife, if there even is one.
> 
> The only precautions that need to be taken are to
> ensure nobody is coerced or pressured into making
> such a decision.
>

There are many people in the world, including the couple in question, who think 
like you regardig this topic.  Please, read my comment to Barry's post on this 
thread.

Also, St. Aquinas (he may have gotten it from Plato) came up with a logical 
principle to follow regarding moral questions.  The action that one takes to 
correct or answer a moral question should be inherently "good" in itself.  If 
the action is inherently "evil", then the action should not be taken.  In this 
case, the act of taking one's own life (suicide) is inherently "evil".  
Therefore, suicide is not an acceptable moral act to fix the problem, i.e 
suffering due to emotional or physical pain and anguish.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study 
> > points to the obvious. It's your cat.
> > 
> 
> **
> 
> I'm all in favor of cat-based humor, but the fact is that cats do accept 
> human dominance. In the wild, cats proudly dislay their excreta as a way to 
> mark their territory; in a house, cats bury their poop in the box so as not 
> to offend the human masters of the territory.
> 


The study simply shows that house kitties can display and enhance meowing 
skills to be able to effectively get owners to respond to their needs/wishes. I 
agree that kitties do accept human dominance.



 
> 
> 
> > [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)]
> > 
> > Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of 
> > urgent-sounding, high-pitched meow, according to the findings.
> > 
> > This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people 
> > usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this 
> > purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find 
> > these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore.
> > 
> > "The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with 
> > contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response," said Karen 
> > McComb of the University of Sussex. "Solicitation purring is probably more 
> > acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats 
> > ejected from the bedroom."
> > 
> > They know us
> > 
> > Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant 
> > cries.
> > 
> > McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' 
> > sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, 
> > including the cry within the purr could make the sound "less harmonic and 
> > thus more difficult to habituate to," she said.
> > 
> > McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who 
> > would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. 
> > After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats 
> > also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal 
> > communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow.
> > 
> > Tough to test
> > 
> > Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries 
> > around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in 
> > front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record 
> > their pets' cries  capturing the sounds made by cats when they were 
> > seeking food and when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings 
> > from 10 different cats.
> > 
> > The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not 
> > all of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had 
> > a cat themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively 
> > seeking food  the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry  as more 
> > urgent and less pleasant than those made in other contexts.
> > 
> > When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, 
> > leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those 
> > calls decreased significantly.
> > 
> > McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal 
> > purring, "but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when 
> > it proves effective in generating a response from humans." In fact, not all 
> > cats use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to 
> > most often develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their 
> > owners rather than those living in large households, where their purrs 
> > might be overlooked.
> > 
> > The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current 
> > Biology. 
> > 
> > ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bob_brigante  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your 
> > cat, a new study points to the obvious. It's your cat.
> 
> **
> 
> I'm all in favor of cat-based humor, but the fact is that 
> cats do accept human dominance. In the wild, cats proudly 
> dislay their excreta as a way to mark their territory; in 
> a house, cats bury their poop in the box so as not to 
> offend the human masters of the territory.

How many times have you shit in their cat box, Bob?

If your answer is "Never," then it seems to me that 
marking their territory is working quite well.

:-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

John wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>   
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>> 
>>> To All:
>>>
>>> A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide.  See link
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world
>>>   
>> Let me see if I've got this straight:
>>
>> * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
>> cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
>> of dignity and in each others' arms instead of 
>> dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, 
>> doped up on drugs or screaming, is "ignorance."
>>
>> 
>
> The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth have a natural 
> tendency to judge matters according to what other people think.  For that 
> matter, they make decisions based on emotions and standards that they created 
> for themselves.  In vedic terms, these are all "maya", or false images of 
> water on the desert floor.
>   
Not if they've been doing sadhana for awhile.  They should be at least 
judging matters as "lines on water."  I learned years ago not to judge 
anything on how other people think.  This came when as a high school 
jazz musician back in the 1960s that the public cared little for good 
music so I cared little for them.  This BTW is very typical of musicians 
and artists period.
> The key to better living is take life as it comes and not be fettered by 
> one's own perceptions of what the good life should be, nor other people's 
> concept of the good life should be.  In other words, the phenomenal world 
> will always be changing and is not and cannot be perfect as it should be.
>   
Hell no.  You SHOULD be cutting through the world regardless of how it 
is from the platform of silence. It's nothing but an interplay of energy 
anyway and a dream.  BUT that doesn't mean that you shouldn't contribute 
your part to making it a better world and that might be taking a 
pro-active role for change.  We can just let a bunch of dumbass 
billionaires ruin the world.

[FairfieldLife] Bursting the bubble of ignorance (was Re: Ignorance in High Society?)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> > >
> > > To All:
> > >
> > > A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide.  See
link
> > >
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world

> >
> > Let me see if I've got this straight:
> >
> > * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
> > cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
> > of dignity and in each others' arms instead of
> > dying alone in some ghastly hospital room,
> > doped up on drugs or screaming, is "ignorance."
>
> The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth
> have a natural tendency to judge matters according to
> what other people think.  For that matter, they make
> decisions based on emotions and standards that they
> created for themselves.  In vedic terms, these are all
> "maya", or false images of water on the desert floor.

John, assuming that you truly believe this:

1. Are you not a human being?
2. If you are, do you not *share* this tendency you speak of?
3. Do you not have emotions?
4. Do you not have standards that you have created for yourself?
5. If you answered "Yes" to all of the questions above, are *your*
thoughts and ideas about the world not "maya," or false images?
Assuming that you are still sane enough to answer the above
questions honestly, do you not then agree that *every single
one* of your ideas about Jyotish and Ayurveda, *every single
one* of your Jyotish analyses and predictions, *every single one*
of your ideas about celibacy and its supposed value, and *every
single one* of your ideas about the "vedic literature" and its
supposed value are merely "maya," or false images?

If so, I count on you to "do the right thing" and stop presenting
any of these things as if any of them were true, or worse, Truth.
Leave that to whatever you think is *not* immersed in "maya,"
and is not human. Thank you for your cooperation.

See the following series of visual aids to help you understand the
"point that you were really making" without realizing what it was:

  [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]

  [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]

  [Bubble bursting sequence]

  [ Richard Heeks bubble sequence]

  [Richard Heeks bubble sequence]

[FairfieldLife] India to issue 1.2 billion biometric ID cards


http://snipurl.com/nau78   
[www_timesonline_co_uk]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study points 
> to the obvious. It's your cat.
> 

**

I'm all in favor of cat-based humor, but the fact is that cats do accept human 
dominance. In the wild, cats proudly dislay their excreta as a way to mark 
their territory; in a house, cats bury their poop in the box so as not to 
offend the human masters of the territory.





> [NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)]
> 
> Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of urgent-sounding, 
> high-pitched meow, according to the findings.
> 
> This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people 
> usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this 
> purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find 
> these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore.
> 
> "The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with 
> contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response," said Karen 
> McComb of the University of Sussex. "Solicitation purring is probably more 
> acceptable to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats ejected 
> from the bedroom."
> 
> They know us
> 
> Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant 
> cries.
> 
> McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' 
> sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, including 
> the cry within the purr could make the sound "less harmonic and thus more 
> difficult to habituate to," she said.
> 
> McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who 
> would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. 
> After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats 
> also made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal 
> communication in mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow.
> 
> Tough to test
> 
> Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries 
> around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in 
> front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record their 
> pets' cries  capturing the sounds made by cats when they were seeking food 
> and when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings from 10 
> different cats.
> 
> The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not all 
> of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had a cat 
> themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively seeking food  
> the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry  as more urgent and less 
> pleasant than those made in other contexts.
> 
> When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, 
> leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those 
> calls decreased significantly.
> 
> McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal 
> purring, "but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when it 
> proves effective in generating a response from humans." In fact, not all cats 
> use this form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to most often 
> develop in cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their owners rather 
> than those living in large households, where their purrs might be overlooked.
> 
> The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current 
> Biology. 
> 
> ~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA lists MAPI US lead contaminated products

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> >
> > Despite the fact that MAPI claims they test for metals, at least two  
> > products have lead in them according to the JAMA article Lead,  
> > Mercury, and Arsenic in US- and Indian-Manufactured Ayurvedic  
> > Medicines Sold via the Internet. Who knows how many other MAPI  
> > products are similarly tainted? And these aren't even the product with  
> > heavy metals listed as ingredients!
> > 
> > The two products that were shown (in this sampling) to have lead  
> > contamination were "Vital Lady" and (LOL) "Worry Free".
> > 
> > http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/300/8/915.pdf
> >
> 
> 
> That settles it, I'm going to stop taking Vital Lady immediately!
>

All products bought from MAPI in Colorado Springs are lead and other 
contaminant/heavy metal free -- people who bought from the internet from Indian 
sources, including MAPI India, did get lead if they bought Vitalady and 
Worryfree, due to the typical dim bulb management of the TM movement, who 
should have taken complete control over the MAPI name and practices in India, 
but failed to do so.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

> I find the idea worrying. Someone with depression wanted
> to visit this clinic, not sure how it turned out but what
> doctor could kill someone *just* because they wanted to die?
> Depression is always curable, all it takes is effort and
> a search for the personal best cure. I don't think it should
> legal anywhere for someone to be helped to die because they
> are unhappy, for whatever reason, it's a part of life. Wanting
> to die because your partner is dead is normal but it aint 
> the end of the world. people do get over it.
> 
> I think all this is symptomatic of our cultures' alienation
> from the natural process of dying and mourning. There's
> a real feeling nowadays that if someone doesn't live a full 
> and happy life until they are 90+ someones gotta be sued.
> Life aint like that, it's bitch.
> 
> Having said that, I've watched good friends die long and
> painful deaths and I think the attitude that we have to suffer
> til the bitter end is wrong. I wouldn't let my dog suffer like
> that, why inflict it on people I love? But it's not for the 
> depressed or unhappy, emotional pain goes away. Lying on a 
> table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers 
> can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it?
>

You hit the nail on the head.  I agree with much of what you say here.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John"  wrote:
> >
> > To All:
> > 
> > A British conductor and his wife decided to commit suicide.  See link
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/world/europe/15britain.html?ref=world
> 
> Let me see if I've got this straight:
>
> * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
> cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
> of dignity and in each others' arms instead of 
> dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, 
> doped up on drugs or screaming, is "ignorance."
> 

The point I'm making is that all human beings on earth have a natural tendency 
to judge matters according to what other people think.  For that matter, they 
make decisions based on emotions and standards that they created for 
themselves.  In vedic terms, these are all "maya", or false images of water on 
the desert floor.

The key to better living is take life as it comes and not be fettered by one's 
own perceptions of what the good life should be, nor other people's concept of 
the good life should be.  In other words, the phenomenal world will always be 
changing and is not and cannot be perfect as it should be.

I'm refraining to make comments on your other ideas since they are off the main 
topic--in other words, they're non-sequitur.

JR

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Maharishi Ayurveda mercury and heavy metals medicine

guyfawkes91 wrote:
>  
>   
>> Here's some of the metals in it:
>> Swaran Siddha Makaradwaj (mercury and sulphur)
>> Lauh bhasma (oxidized iron, a.k.a. "rust")
>> Abhrak bhasma (aluminum/potassium)
>> Vanga bhasma (tin)
>>
>> Serve with EDTA infusion; stirred, not shaken...
>>
>> 
>
> So when people refer to the inner circle as being "as mad as hatters" they're 
> really quite accurate. The term "as mad as a hatter" (cv Alice in Wonderland) 
> came from a time when hatters routinely used mercury for something to do with 
> hats, got mercury poisoning and went mad.
>
> It explains a lot.
There may be far less mercury (which is treated in a special way as to 
not be harmful) in ayurvedic treatments than you probably got from the 
fillings your dentist gave you or possibly in the vaccines you got 
inflicted with.  In rural India I watched an ayurvedic physician play 
with a ball of mercury he had treated to be safe.

Ask for a list of the ingredients from the upcoming Swine Flu vaccine 
they want to foist on us.  I don't know about you I won't take any shot 
unless I have a complete list of ingredients and their amounts in a 
vaccine (and I can usually claim an allergy to something in them, sulfa 
in particular).

I think the inner circle's madness came from something else.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK

Alex Stanley wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "davidpalmer108"  
> wrote:
>   
>> Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
>> boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross
>> experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined
>> experience is always more attractive because it is more perfect,
>> has fewer blemishes.
>> 
>
> That's not my experience at all. A lot of the people I know in FF are deeply 
> interested in the subtle relative and celestial realms, and I'm the exact 
> opposite. All that subtle stuff just bores me to no end.
I find it a little boring sometimes but that's because it seems to come 
from a weakly taught perspective.   Also subtle experiences are often 
just that experiences and meant to just be experiences.  They are 
extremely difficult to put into words.  Recently one of the closest 
expressions I've found which was probably way misinterpreted here was 
the "other worldliness" of the vampires on "True Blood" though as of 
late the Michelle Forbes character is even more representative of 
tantric powers (though in a dark way and is based on some Greek mythical 
character).

There is also a group here who seems to believe that if you have 
practiced sadhana for many, many years you are no better off than the 
flatlander bumps we bump into day to day in society.   Theoretically 
nothing should be further from the truth.  Yes, that means even with TM 
ones consciousness should have evolved considerably over the years.   
Some people cushion this viewpoint as being elitist but my question is 
"why did you practice meditation all these years if you weren't 
interested in self-improvement?"  Inevitably you are going to wind up 
levels above the consciousness of the average individual.  But it is a 
compassionate situation as the method is available to anyone who wants it.

One of the points I took with me from SCI was that just because someone 
is bright or expert in a field DOESN'T mean they are enlightened.  They 
are just bright or expert in their field.  When I encountered such 
people in life I watched to see if they really could function that way 
outside of the their field of expertise.  How well did they handle 
abstract thought?   Often I would be surprised then maybe a little 
further unsurprised when I learned (usually after they found I did yogic 
techniques) that they too delved into spiritual realms.  I would have 
never suspected that one techie friend was expert in Tarot but his 
mother is Russian and it was a practiced passed down in the family.  And 
this guy is a big fan of the Skeptical Inquirer.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

2009-07-15 Thread Vaj



On Jul 15, 2009, at 11:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  
 wrote:


On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim-
ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage
on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did
not come as "original equipment" on the body now wearing it.
She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the
breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her
about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying
attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones
with a hearty "There...that woman lying on her back, the one
whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the
Sun Salutation," and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra
of our walk, "Real boobs obey the law of gravity."


Now this is fascinating.  I thought boob-jobs could make
them bigger, but I wasn't aware they could make them,
um, stiffer, or whatever you want to call it.


I noticed the same thing long ago in L.A., when
"boob jobs" first became fashionable. They don't
sag, they don't bounce when you move, and when
the woman is lying on her back, they tend to
remain "fully at attention," pointing to the
heavens. It's really not all that attractive.
I've heard tell ( through the grapevine, you
understand...from other guys ) that real lechers
can usually tell which are real and which are
Memorex through several layers of clothing.  :-)


The technology is constantly improving. There are implants now which  
are adjustable.





Hope it was worth it... God only
knows what all that silicone is doing to their bodies.


Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen
to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by
all means check out the DVD they made of "Live
Roadrunning." It's marvelous, but the shocker is
to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections
of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and
her prematurely gray hair only made her look more
attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously*
gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as
if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even
MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting.


I agree. I have a number of friends who use it, and it's pretty  
obvious up close, esp. if you're used to the persons previous range  
of facial expressions. Yet other friends have had skin peels of faces  
lifts. They never look quite the same. The good news is the first  
replacement epidermis material, Epicel, is now available, although at  
this time just for burn victims. Expect fairly soon to be able to  
replace your skin. Carticel is also approved and is in use for  
replacing your knee cartilage with cells cultured again from your  
own. In some cases it can completely restore original function. With  
Obama removing the Bush restrictions on stem cell lines, it's very  
likely such innovations will only accelerate.

[FairfieldLife] Cats Do Control Humans, Study Finds



If you've ever wondered who's in control, you or your cat, a new study points 
to the obvious. It's your cat.

[NOTE: Our kitty kindly allows us live in his flat here in the city. :-)]

Household cats exercise this control with a certain type of urgent-sounding, 
high-pitched meow, according to the findings.

This meow is actually a purr mixed with a high-pitched cry. While people 
usually think of cat purring as a sign of happiness, some cats make this 
purr-cry sound when they want to be fed. The study showed that humans find 
these mixed calls annoying and difficult to ignore.

"The embedding of a cry within a call that we normally associate with 
contentment is quite a subtle means of eliciting a response," said Karen McComb 
of the University of Sussex. "Solicitation purring is probably more acceptable 
to humans than overt meowing, which is likely to get cats ejected from the 
bedroom."

They know us

Previous research has shown similarities between cat cries and human infant 
cries.

McComb suggests that the purr-cry may subtly take advantage of humans' 
sensitivity to cries they associate with nurturing offspring. Also, including 
the cry within the purr could make the sound "less harmonic and thus more 
difficult to habituate to," she said.

McComb got the idea for the study from her experience with her own cat, who 
would consistently wake her up in the mornings with a very insistent purr. 
After speaking with other cat owners, she learned that some of their cats also 
made the same type of call. As a scientist who studies vocal communication in 
mammals, she decided to investigate the manipulative meow.

Tough to test

Setting up the experiments wasn't easy. While the felines used purr-cries 
around their familiar owners, they were not eager to make the same cries in 
front of strangers. So McComb and her team trained cat owners to record their 
pets' cries  capturing the sounds made by cats when they were seeking food and 
when they were not. In all, the team collected recordings from 10 different 
cats.

The researchers then played the cries back for 50 human participants, not all 
of whom owned cats. They found that humans, even if they had never had a cat 
themselves, judged the purrs recorded while cats were actively seeking food  
the purrs with an embedded, high-pitched cry  as more urgent and less pleasant 
than those made in other contexts.

When the team re-synthesised the recorded purrs to remove the embedded cry, 
leaving all else unchanged, the human subjects' urgency ratings for those calls 
decreased significantly.

McComb said she thinks this cry occurs at a low level in cats' normal purring, 
"but we think that cats learn to dramatically exaggerate it when it proves 
effective in generating a response from humans." In fact, not all cats use this 
form of purring at all, she said, noting that it seems to most often develop in 
cats that have a one-on-one relationship with their owners rather than those 
living in large households, where their purrs might be overlooked.

The results were published in the July 14 issue of the journal Current Biology. 

~Live Science: http://www.livescience.com/animals/090713-cats-cry.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK

2009-07-15 Thread Sal Sunshine


On Jul 15, 2009, at 12:26 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "davidpalmer108"  
 wrote:


Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross
experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined
experience is always more attractive because it is more perfect,
has fewer blemishes.


That's not my experience at all. A lot of the people I know in FF  
are deeply interested in the subtle relative and celestial realms,  
and I'm the exact opposite. All that subtle stuff just bores me to  
no end.


Me as well.

Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

2009-07-15 Thread Sal Sunshine


On Jul 15, 2009, at 10:46 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:


On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim-
ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage
on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did
not come as "original equipment" on the body now wearing it.
She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the
breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her
about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying
attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones
with a hearty "There...that woman lying on her back, the one
whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the
Sun Salutation," and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra
of our walk, "Real boobs obey the law of gravity."


Now this is fascinating.  I thought boob-jobs could make
them bigger, but I wasn't aware they could make them,
um, stiffer, or whatever you want to call it.


I noticed the same thing long ago in L.A., when
"boob jobs" first became fashionable. They don't
sag, they don't bounce when you move, and when
the woman is lying on her back, they tend to
remain "fully at attention," pointing to the
heavens. It's really not all that attractive.
I've heard tell ( through the grapevine, you
understand...from other guys ) that real lechers
can usually tell which are real and which are
Memorex through several layers of clothing.  :-)


Well actually I've often wondered if guys are generally
turned on by women who have had significant plastic
surgery--I can't imagine they are.  I know in reverse
that few things for myself are more off-putting than
hearing that a guy has used steroids or other artificial
body aids.  It just ain't sexy.




Hope it was worth it... God only
knows what all that silicone is doing to their bodies.


Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen
to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by
all means check out the DVD they made of "Live
Roadrunning." It's marvelous, but the shocker is
to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections
of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and
her prematurely gray hair only made her look more
attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously*
gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as
if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even
MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting.


I found it on You Tube--or at least one, with the
guys from Iceland--and I agree...almost preternatural.
Along those same lines (ha!  NPI) have you checked
out what Judy Collins has done lately to her once-
beautiful face?  And supposedly directors don't even
like to work with Nicole Kidman or Cher anymore because
their faces are basically frozen in perpetual smiles...
real emotions are almost impossible to convey when
you've had that much junk injected.  As Curtis said,
it's hard to believe people think this makes them
look better.




This is more than just a casual concern...as the mother
of daughters, I have some fairly good reasons,
you might say, to wonder about this garbage...
3 excellent reasons, in fact.


Six, actually.  :-)


Well I was thinking of everything you
could get done.



Good luck. If it helps, the old lecher who...uh...
told me...yeah...that's the ticket...the stuff
above about real vs. natural also says that
"natural is always better."  :-)


Overall, she was impressed by how comfortable the Spanish
seemed to be in their bodies,


Now *that's* what I'm jealous of!


As am I. Being raised American is a bitch to
get over.


Yeah.  We got everything here except what
really counts.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "davidpalmer108"  
wrote:
>
> 
> I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying
> to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that
> poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but
> I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours.
> 
> 
> Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
> boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross
> experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience
> is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer
> blemishes.
> 
> 
> But our dear Maharishi was always positive, so he saw transcending as a
> path to increasing bliss (aanandaad dheva...), and not a retreat from
> boredom. Relativity is always dual, we can always view something from
> two sides. It is our choice whether we focus on positive or negative.
> The TMO never expresses negativity because Maharishi said we shouldn't
> focus on it (Maa vid dvishaavahai) - It is just a waste of energy.
> 
> 
> By the way, I don't have a badge - I hope that will be OK
> 
> 
> Jai Guru Dev
> David


Hello David,

Most of the negativity on this group comes from our two pets, the disciples of 
the Dalai Lama, the Turq and the Vaj. Well, some call this "teacher" the Dolly 
Lama but I don't see that as very negative.

Be welcomed and get a badge !
Jai Guru Dev

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK

2009-07-15 Thread Alex Stanley

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "davidpalmer108"  
wrote:
> 
> Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
> boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross
> experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined
> experience is always more attractive because it is more perfect,
> has fewer blemishes.

That's not my experience at all. A lot of the people I know in FF are deeply 
interested in the subtle relative and celestial realms, and I'm the exact 
opposite. All that subtle stuff just bores me to no end.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!

2009-07-15 Thread Alex Stanley

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
>
> Perhaps I'm jaded, Meera, but my first thought upon reading this
> entry of your's and then clicking on the link below (and watching
> about 5 minutes of the video) was whether or not your promotion of
> mind movies earns you money.
> 
> Do you earn anything by promoting this thing?

I'd wager that the number in her link is her affiliate number and that her 
intro was only a means of fooling the mods into thinking she's not the spammer 
that she really is. I've put her on moderated status, just in case she decides 
she wants to actually respond to the questions asked of her.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:

> > Seems to me it's the most fundamental violation of
> > human rights to force somebody to endure whatever
> > unpleasantness they want to avoid by taking their
> > life, whether it's dying in pain or having to live
> > without their beloved partner, or simply because
> > whatever made their lives worth living--in their own
> > judgment--was no longer available to them.
> > 
> > (In addition to facing the loss of his terminally
> > ill wife, the conductor had also become blind and
> > almost deaf.)
> > 
> > Since society is not harmed by a person taking
> > their own life, and since nobody knows what happens
> > after death, the individual should be free to decide
> > whether they want to risk the chance of negative
> > repercussions in the afterlife, if there even is one.
> > 
> > The only precautions that need to be taken are to
> > ensure nobody is coerced or pressured into making
> > such a decision.
> 
> I find the idea worrying. Someone with depression wanted
> to visit this clinic, not sure how it turned out but what
> doctor could kill someone *just* because they wanted to die?

Well, all they really have to do is hand over a
sufficient number of the right kind of pills.

> Depression is always curable, all it takes is effort and
> a search for the personal best cure.

Yeah, but depression *isn't* always curable; and
sometimes the "cure" is worse than the disease. It's
worth the old college try if one feels up to it, but
the problem with depression is that it saps one's
motivational energy.

In any case, though, with regard to the choice to
die when one isn't really ill, I wasn't thinking of
clinical depression so much as a clear-headed decision
that one has accomplished whatever one wanted to in
life and is unlikely to accomplish anything more
that's new and different and valuable, to oneself or
anyone else. It can come from a place of feeling
satisfied and complete, in other words, rather than
from a feeling of lack.

 I don't think it should
> legal anywhere for someone to be helped to die because they
> are unhappy, for whatever reason, it's a part of life. Wanting
> to die because your partner is dead is normal but it aint 
> the end of the world. people do get over it.

But it shouldn't be anyone else's *decision* but
yours.

> I think all this is symptomatic of our cultures' alienation
> from the natural process of dying and mourning. There's
> a real feeling nowadays that if someone doesn't live a full 
> and happy life until they are 90+ someones gotta be sued.
> Life aint like that, it's bitch.

I agree, but doesn't that support what I just wrote 
above? Why should you have to hang on until you're 90?
Why not get out while the getting's good? Why should
that be considered a tragedy? Why should death be
something to be avoided at all costs?

If you *want* to continue to live, if you still have
things you want to do, fine. I'd be quite annoyed if
I had to check out any time in the near future. But
if I eventually get to the point that I feel I'm all
done, I'd really like to be able to make a graceful
exit.

> Having said that, I've watched good friends die long and
> painful deaths and I think the attitude that we have to suffer
> til the bitter end is wrong. I wouldn't let my dog suffer like
> that, why inflict it on people I love? But it's not for the 
> depressed or unhappy, emotional pain goes away.

Again, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. I had
a friend who was manic-depressive who made a *heroic*
effort to get better--from one medication to the next,
hospitalization, therapy--for many years with no
discernible improvement. Finally she decided enough was
enough and jumped off a building.

She had lots of friends who cared for her deeply and
had done everything they could to help. Why couldn't
she have died peacefully with them at her side wishing
her a good journey?

 Lying on a 
> table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers 
> can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it?

Shouldn't death be considered a part of life? Especially
if it's your own?

(This is my 50th; see you in a few days.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

2009-07-15 Thread raunchydog

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> 
> > She was here to give a talk last night at a large con-
> > ference on the empowerment of women in business, or
> > something like that.
> 
> Let's stop right there and think for a moment. Why
> does there *need* to be a conference devoted to the
> empowerment of women in business?
> 
> Why do women have to have a special conference of
> their own to hear about how to empower themselves?
> 
> Are there any conferences for men only about how
> they can empower themselves?
> 
> The very notion of "empowerment" automatically 
> implies its opposite, an existing lack of power.
> 
> 
> > Her talk lasted 45 minutes. She spoke to an audience of
> > 400-500 women. During that time, she felt no need to 
> > mention men even once. What she spoke about was success
> > and how to achieve it, which she can do with some cred-
> > ibility because the companies she created made her a 
> > millionaire in her late 30s and has allowed her to retire
> > now that she's in her late 40s. There was no talk of 
> > "sexism," or "men hating women"...only talk of what the 
> > women at the conference could do to become successful 
> > themselves.
> 
> It's irrelevant that she didn't mention sexism or
> misogyny. That she was speaking to an audience of
> women about female empowerment means women have 
> things they must overcome before they can become 
> successful. Avoiding explicit mention of these
> obstacles doesn't somehow mean they don't exist.
> 
> That there have to be conferences for women only
> about how they can empower themselves to achieve
> success in business, when there are no such
> conferences for men, speaks more loudly than words
> about sexism and misogyny.
> 
> But there's room for *both* in feminism--talk about
> how women can empower themselves, and talk about
> how sexism and misogyny makes it more difficult for
> them to do so. These aren't mutually exclusive, nor
> is one more "real" feminism than the other. They're
> two sides to the same coin.
> 
> But it's *men* who really need to hear about sexism
> and misogyny, because they're the perpetrators. They
> don't realize it, but it gets in their way almost as
> much as it gets in women's way. They need to learn how
> to empower themselves to overcome it.
> 
> First, though, they need to *recognize* it in 
> themselves instead of continuing to paddle furiously
> down that river in Egypt.
> 
> 
>   But interestingly 
> > enough, Rama's name did not come up even once over lunch, 
> > or during our walk along the Sitges beach afterwards. The 
> > past never came up period, because for both of us the things 
> > we had been doing *lately* were much more interesting than 
> > the things we did with him 11 to 25 years ago. It was as 
> > if Now was so full that Then just didn't have room to 
> > "squeeze in."
> 
> A different topic, but that last sentence is just too
> funny to overlook given Barry's behavior on this forum.
> Maharishi must have been a whole lot more interesting
> than whatever it is that Barry's been doing lately.
> 
> (Back to the earlier topic, for extra credit: Anybody
> recall Barry's post of a few months back about how he
> was putting up a couple of "real" feminists while they
> gave talks at a women's conference in Sitges, and how
> they made a special arrangement for him to attend a
> party for the participants where he stood in the back
> of the room observing? Oddly enough, I can't find that
> post now, but in it he made strikingly similar points
> in the context of a *very* similar situation to the
> one he describes above.)
>

Yep, I remember the last women's conference Barry said he attended as a special 
guest and thought of it as I read this all too familiar theme. As I recall at 
the last conference he said the women were "dressed to the nines." What I want 
to know is, how does he keep getting into these women's conferences unless he's 
going in drag? The only thing different about this post is the banter about 
boobs on the beach. The question now is, who is the bigger boob?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

2009-07-15 Thread raunchydog

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
>
> I find the idea worrying. Someone with depression wanted
> to visit this clinic, not sure how it turned out but what
> doctor could kill someone *just* because they wanted to die?
> Depression is always curable, all it takes is effort and
> a search for the personal best cure. I don't think it should
> legal anywhere for someone to be helped to die because they
> are unhappy, for whatever reason, it's a part of life. Wanting
> to die because your partner is dead is normal but it aint 
> the end of the world. people do get over it.
> 
> I think all this is symptomatic of our cultures' alienation
> from the natural process of dying and mourning. There's
> a real feeling nowadays that if someone doesn't live a full 
> and happy life until they are 90+ someones gotta be sued.
> Life aint like that, it's bitch.
> 
> Having said that, I've watched good friends die long and
> painful deaths and I think the attitude that we have to suffer
> til the bitter end is wrong. I wouldn't let my dog suffer like
> that, why inflict it on people I love? But it's not for the 
> depressed or unhappy, emotional pain goes away. Lying on a 
> table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers 
> can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it?
>

It's painful to see a loved one suffer, painful to watch them die and painful 
to mourn. Each step of goodbye, hoping the end will not come, knowing it will, 
brings us closer to our own mortality. Feeling the kinship of humanity and 
compassion for those bereft of courage at loss, naturally we reach out in 
friendship to fill the void with wise counsel and protection until the tears 
have passed. Choice is just around the corner of now, balancing life and death 
decisions. Knowing we are not alone helps ease the burden of rightly or wrongly 
choosing an unknown. Even so, no one can choose for you. In the end you will be 
alone passing into yet another unknown.

[FairfieldLife] Hardball: Bill Maher - "At Least Sanford Was Truly In Love "



Hardball, comedian Bill Maher was hilarious in a discussion of the recent 
Republican sex scandals and his "fun" tour of the South. 

He's got Chris Matthews rolling on the floor...

Watch: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#31912481

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK David a positive voice is most welcome

2009-07-15 Thread WLeed3

Thanks 4 the additional positive voice David Palmer & sweet  tounged voice 
as well. Here so many have left for or to avoid the  negative here & mouths 
less than sweet. Col. Wm. D. Leed III USA Ret.  mostly, whose ancestor on 
Dads side left Yorkshire & Leeds as a Leeds  in 1679 & again 82 to come with 
our - your Wm Penn. son of the Adirmal Penn  to Penns woods he a "Quaker" 
(kundinally rising there) Society of  Friends my ancestor was worse a Puritan 
benn back I have to the mother  land several times. On the cite U mostly use  
the delete button & respond to more happy voices directly.

In a message dated 7/15/2009 11:35:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
richardhughes...@hotmail.com writes:

--- In  FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "davidpalmer108" 
  wrote:
>
> 
> I came across your group by chance the other  day, and have been trying
> to catch up with your insane banter ever  since. How you treated that
> poor lady who thanked you for letting her  join was quite scandalous, but
> I guess one must expect a tough  initiation from a group like yours.
> 
> 
> Someone was  recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
> boredom. This is,  of course, true - one is bored of more gross
> experience, and heads to  something more subtle. More refined experience
> is always more  attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer
> blemishes.
>  
> 
> But our dear Maharishi was always positive, so he saw  transcending as a
> path to increasing bliss (aanandaad dheva...), and  not a retreat from
> boredom. Relativity is always dual, we can always  view something from
> two sides. It is our choice whether we focus on  positive or negative.
> The TMO never expresses negativity because  Maharishi said we shouldn't
> focus on it (Maa vid dvishaavahai) - It is  just a waste of energy.

Greetings cloudy-minded Scorpion! I think  your 'movement' viewpoint
will provide an interesting counterpoint to some  of our debates.
Just don't take anything personally.  

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> > It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim-
> > ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage
> > on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did
> > not come as "original equipment" on the body now wearing it.
> > She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the
> > breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her
> > about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying
> > attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones
> > with a hearty "There...that woman lying on her back, the one
> > whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the
> > Sun Salutation," and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra
> > of our walk, "Real boobs obey the law of gravity."
> 
> Now this is fascinating.  I thought boob-jobs could make
> them bigger, but I wasn't aware they could make them,
> um, stiffer, or whatever you want to call it.  

I noticed the same thing long ago in L.A., when
"boob jobs" first became fashionable. They don't
sag, they don't bounce when you move, and when 
the woman is lying on her back, they tend to 
remain "fully at attention," pointing to the 
heavens. It's really not all that attractive. 
I've heard tell ( through the grapevine, you 
understand...from other guys ) that real lechers 
can usually tell which are real and which are 
Memorex through several layers of clothing.  :-)

> Hope it was worth it... God only
> knows what all that silicone is doing to their bodies.

Worse as far as I can tell is botox. If you happen
to like either Mark Knopfler or Emmylou Harris, by
all means check out the DVD they made of "Live
Roadrunning." It's marvelous, but the shocker is
to see Emmylou talking in the interview sections 
of the DVD. She's always been a lovely woman, and
her prematurely gray hair only made her look more
attractive in my opinion, but she has *obviously*
gone the botox route, so much so that it looks as
if she is wearing a mask. Her face doesn't even
MOVE when she speaks. It's icky and off-putting.

> This is more than just a casual concern...as the mother
> of daughters, I have some fairly good reasons,
> you might say, to wonder about this garbage...
> 3 excellent reasons, in fact.

Six, actually.  :-)

Good luck. If it helps, the old lecher who...uh...
told me...yeah...that's the ticket...the stuff 
above about real vs. natural also says that 
"natural is always better."  :-)

> > Overall, she was impressed by how comfortable the Spanish
> > seemed to be in their bodies,
> 
> Now *that's* what I'm jealous of!

As am I. Being raised American is a bitch to 
get over.

> > especially as compared to the
> > women at her talk the night before. Most of them were from
> > England or the U.S., and even I -- sitting in the back of the
> > room trying to be unobtrusive during my friend's talk -- could
> > not help but notice how much most of them needed to LIGHTEN
> > UP. That was why it was so interesting that the gist *of*
> > my friend's talk was about LIGHTENING UP as the secret of
> > success.
> 
> Good idea. Think I'll go lighten up into a cup of coffee 
> and a cinnamon roll.

Whatever works, as far as I can tell. All I know
is that when she first started trying to become
a success in the computer industry my friend 
went the "workaholic" and "serious" route. She
worked 70+ hours a week, barely slept, never dated
because she felt she didn't have time to, and 
almost never had any fun. The fascinating thing
was that, as talented as she was, nothing was
working in her business...it wasn't making any
money.

I was concerned enough about her to forcibly drag 
her out of the house one night and take her out 
for a "pity movie," because she so obviously 
needed one. After the movie, we ran into Rama, 
who had been in the same movie, although we hadn't
noticed him. He took one look at her and said, 
"You are a fucking mess. You need to *chill*, girl. 
Don't come to any seminars [which at that point 
were held every week] until you have gotten laid 
a couple of dozen times and gotten drunk or stoned 
or whatever you used to do for fun and lightened
up. Whatever you are doing is not *working*. So
try something else."

My friend was *far* more of a Rama TB than I was,
so she took this stuff seriously. So seriously
that she was at the next week's seminar, having
done everything he suggested :-), and looking
like a completely different person. It was as if
she had dropped ten years off her age and all the
darkness from her aura. 

Interestingly enough, that's when her business
took off. She never went back to being a worka-
holic, and made sure to maintain a balance between
work and fun from then on, and the bucks started
flowing in. Within a year she sold that first 
company for a million bucks and started another
one. So when she tells women that LIGHTENING
UP can help them to succeed,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "davidpalmer108"  
wrote:
>
> 
> I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying
> to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that
> poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but
> I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours.
> 
> 
> Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
> boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross
> experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience
> is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer
> blemishes.
> 
> 
> But our dear Maharishi was always positive, so he saw transcending as a
> path to increasing bliss (aanandaad dheva...), and not a retreat from
> boredom. Relativity is always dual, we can always view something from
> two sides. It is our choice whether we focus on positive or negative.
> The TMO never expresses negativity because Maharishi said we shouldn't
> focus on it (Maa vid dvishaavahai) - It is just a waste of energy.


Greetings cloudy-minded Scorpion! I think your 'movement' viewpoint
will provide an interesting counterpoint to some of our debates.
Just don't take anything personally.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:

> She was here to give a talk last night at a large con-
> ference on the empowerment of women in business, or
> something like that.

Let's stop right there and think for a moment. Why
does there *need* to be a conference devoted to the
empowerment of women in business?

Why do women have to have a special conference of
their own to hear about how to empower themselves?

Are there any conferences for men only about how
they can empower themselves?

The very notion of "empowerment" automatically 
implies its opposite, an existing lack of power.

> Her talk lasted 45 minutes. She spoke to an audience of
> 400-500 women. During that time, she felt no need to 
> mention men even once. What she spoke about was success
> and how to achieve it, which she can do with some cred-
> ibility because the companies she created made her a 
> millionaire in her late 30s and has allowed her to retire
> now that she's in her late 40s. There was no talk of 
> "sexism," or "men hating women"...only talk of what the 
> women at the conference could do to become successful 
> themselves.

It's irrelevant that she didn't mention sexism or
misogyny. That she was speaking to an audience of
women about female empowerment means women have 
things they must overcome before they can become 
successful. Avoiding explicit mention of these
obstacles doesn't somehow mean they don't exist.

That there have to be conferences for women only
about how they can empower themselves to achieve
success in business, when there are no such
conferences for men, speaks more loudly than words
about sexism and misogyny.

But there's room for *both* in feminism--talk about
how women can empower themselves, and talk about
how sexism and misogyny makes it more difficult for
them to do so. These aren't mutually exclusive, nor
is one more "real" feminism than the other. They're
two sides to the same coin.

But it's *men* who really need to hear about sexism
and misogyny, because they're the perpetrators. They
don't realize it, but it gets in their way almost as
much as it gets in women's way. They need to learn how
to empower themselves to overcome it.

First, though, they need to *recognize* it in 
themselves instead of continuing to paddle furiously
down that river in Egypt.

  But interestingly 
> enough, Rama's name did not come up even once over lunch, 
> or during our walk along the Sitges beach afterwards. The 
> past never came up period, because for both of us the things 
> we had been doing *lately* were much more interesting than 
> the things we did with him 11 to 25 years ago. It was as 
> if Now was so full that Then just didn't have room to 
> "squeeze in."

A different topic, but that last sentence is just too
funny to overlook given Barry's behavior on this forum.
Maharishi must have been a whole lot more interesting
than whatever it is that Barry's been doing lately.

(Back to the earlier topic, for extra credit: Anybody
recall Barry's post of a few months back about how he
was putting up a couple of "real" feminists while they
gave talks at a women's conference in Sitges, and how
they made a special arrangement for him to attend a
party for the participants where he stood in the back
of the room observing? Oddly enough, I can't find that
post now, but in it he made strikingly similar points
in the context of a *very* similar situation to the
one he describes above.)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> 
> > * Believing that someone who is old enough to
> > be a grandfather but who still enjoys sex is
> > "acting like a teenybopper"
> 
> There are many more ways, of course, in which
> Barry "acts like a teenybopper."
> 
> 
> > * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
> > cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
> > of dignity and in each others' arms instead of 
> > dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, 
> > doped up on drugs or screaming, is "ignorance."
> 
> Although Barry gets his facts wrong, as usual (the
> conductor was not terminally ill and didn't have
> cancer, his wife did; and they didn't "die in each
> other's arms" but on beds next to each other,
> holding hands), I totally agree with his
> perspective. It's *barbaric* for people not to be
> allowed to die in comfort at a time and in a place
> and by means of their own choosing, *whether they're
> ill or not*.
> 
> Seems to me it's the most fundamental violation of
> human rights to force somebody to endure whatever
> unpleasantness they want to avoid by taking their
> life, whether it's dying in pain or having to live
> without their beloved partner, or simply because
> whatever made their lives worth living--in their own
> judgment--was no longer available to them.
> 
> (In addition to facing the loss of his terminally
> ill wife, the conductor had also become blind and
> almost deaf.)
> 
> Since society is not harmed by a person taking
> their own life, and since nobody knows what happens
> after death, the individual should be free to decide
> whether they want to risk the chance of negative
> repercussions in the afterlife, if there even is one.
> 
> The only precautions that need to be taken are to
> ensure nobody is coerced or pressured into making
> such a decision.
>

I find the idea worrying. Someone with depression wanted
to visit this clinic, not sure how it turned out but what
doctor could kill someone *just* because they wanted to die?
Depression is always curable, all it takes is effort and
a search for the personal best cure. I don't think it should
legal anywhere for someone to be helped to die because they
are unhappy, for whatever reason, it's a part of life. Wanting
to die because your partner is dead is normal but it aint 
the end of the world. people do get over it.

I think all this is symptomatic of our cultures' alienation
from the natural process of dying and mourning. There's
a real feeling nowadays that if someone doesn't live a full 
and happy life until they are 90+ someones gotta be sued.
Life aint like that, it's bitch.

Having said that, I've watched good friends die long and
painful deaths and I think the attitude that we have to suffer
til the bitter end is wrong. I wouldn't let my dog suffer like
that, why inflict it on people I love? But it's not for the 
depressed or unhappy, emotional pain goes away. Lying on a 
table and being injected with a lethal dose of painkillers 
can't be considered a lifestyle choice can it?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

2009-07-15 Thread Sal Sunshine


On Jul 15, 2009, at 8:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:

The fact that about half of the women were wearing *only*
bikini bottoms became the next subject for merriment. I have
been here so long that I rarely even notice that the beach
is one long boob-fest, but for some reason my friend seemed
to be actively checking out the beach boobage, as if she found
it utterly fascinating. I know from experience ( before she
was married ) that she is far from "breast-challenged" herself,
so I knew that she wasn't conducting this boob inventory out
of envy. So I asked what she *was* checking for, and she said
(cracking up), "Authenticity, as measured by compliance with
the law of gravity."


I don't have much body-envy myself, but I still do
have some fairly significant body issues.  Maybe my
next vacation (Ha!  What's that?) should be in Spain.


It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim-
ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage
on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did
not come as "original equipment" on the body now wearing it.
She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the
breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her
about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying
attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones
with a hearty "There...that woman lying on her back, the one
whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the
Sun Salutation," and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra
of our walk, "Real boobs obey the law of gravity."


Now this is fascinating.  I thought boob-jobs could make
them bigger, but I wasn't aware they could make them,
um, stiffer, or whatever you want to call it.  Hope it
was worth it... God only
knows what all that silicone is doing to their bodies.
This is more than just a casual concern...as the mother
of daughters, I have some fairly good reasons,
you might say, to wonder about this garbage...
3 excellent reasons, in fact.


Overall, she was impressed by how comfortable the Spanish
seemed to be in their bodies,


Now *that's* what I'm jealous of!


especially as compared to the
women at her talk the night before. Most of them were from
England or the U.S., and even I -- sitting in the back of the
room trying to be unobtrusive during my friend's talk -- could
not help but notice how much most of them needed to LIGHTEN
UP. That was why it was so interesting that the gist *of*
my friend's talk was about LIGHTENING UP as the secret of
success.


Good idea.  Think I'll go lighten up into a cup of coffee and a
cinnamon roll.

Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!

2009-07-15 Thread raunchydog

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps I'm jaded, Meera, but my first thought upon 
> > reading this entry of your's and then clicking on 
> > the link below (and watching about 5 minutes of the 
> > video) was whether or not your promotion of mind 
> > movies earns you money.
> > 
> > Do you earn anything by promoting this thing?
> 
> I noticed that, too. Very *impolite* site, nerd-wise.
> Any site that doesn't allow you to gracefully close
> its tab without preventing you from doing it so that
> it can try several more times to sell you something 
> is a scam.
> 
> It should probably be mentioned as well that the last
> person on this forum who was trying to sell us on the
> high spiritual value of "The Secret" is the TM TB who 
> attempted to get Fairfield Life shut down by posting 
> porn to it and then complaining to the Yahoo adminis-
> trators about it. I wonder what *he* was trying to 
> "attract."  :-)
> 
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Meera Watts"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear All, 
> > > I am not sure if you remember the DVD "The Secret" launched 
> > > few years back. One of our family friends had introduced to 
> > > us. I remember seeing it but so far no action or no results. 
> > > Some of you may not have seen it either and not sure what I 
> > > am talking about. Just for info for them, I am talking about 
> > > "Law of attraction". You can search the net for it to find 
> > > out more. 
> > > Yesterday I came across "Mind Movies" while surfing the net.
> > > Let me explain...
> > > One thing I've noticed along the way is how difficult it can 
> > > be to try and get your "inner game" finely tuned so you 
> > > actually can achieve what you want in life.
> > > This applies to business, personal life, finances...EVERYTHING.
> > > Sure, you can set goals and all that, but somehow you just 
> > > seem to lose focus before you get there. It's kind of like 
> > > too much garbage gets in the way, you know?
> > > All that is about to change!
> > > Because now there is a powerful way to literally set your 
> > > sites on what you want to happen in your life, and then GET 
> > > IT--simply by watching a movie
> > > I'm NOT kidding.
> > > The best thing is for you to see how this works for yourself. 
> > > I think you'll catch the vision very quickly when you do.
> > > Watch this to find out how to achieve anything you want:
> > > http://www.mindmovies.com/?13592 
> > > You can go to YouTube and search for "mind movies" and you 
> > > will see lot of them posted by bunch of people. I am in 
> > > process of creating my one and will share with you once 
> > > it's done.
> > > Cheers!
> > > Meera
> > >
> >
>

Yikes! Chain letters on YouTube? Meera, I wish you well. I hope you this didn't 
cost you money. 

Like burning leaves before the fall
Hope moves the heart to chance
Internet sharks are everywhere
Offer riches look askance

World of jaded beings clamor
Greed exchanged for your tears
Hold child close give protection 
Whisper love soothing fears

raunchydog






 "There's a sucker born every minute" P.T. Barnum

[FairfieldLife] Re: Drug-Dependent Pundits Riot

2009-07-15 Thread WillyTex

scienceofabundance wrote:
> I see nothing on the page you referred
> to about Dr. Lonsdorf seeing the pundits...
>
The boy pundits see the doctor all the time,
according to my sources in Vedic City. But,
the boys DO NOT SMOKE. There is nothing in
the Vedas that commands boy pundits in
Fairfield, Iowa, to smoke.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for accepting me!

2009-07-15 Thread WillyTex

Robert wrote:
> Rajneesh was into all kinds of 'sexual
> freedom', which included orgies, with
> him watching...
>
You need to stop posting misinformation,
Robert. I've seen no evidence that Rajneesh
observed or participated in any orgies.

Apparently the Rajneesh had a single girlfriend,
Vivek, for over ten years. None of these accounts
listed below have anything to say about Rajneesh's
private sex life, so exactly, how would you be
knowing?

'Bhagwan: The God That Failed'
By Hugh Milne
St. Martins Press, 1987

'My Life in Orange: Growing Up with the Guru'
by Tim Guest
Harvest Books, 2005

'Place Called Antelope - Rajneesh Story'
by Donna Quick
August Press, 1995

'Karma Cola: Marketing the Mystic East'
By Gita Mehta
Vintage Books, 1994

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK

2009-07-15 Thread guyfawkes91

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "davidpalmer108"  
wrote:
>
> 
> I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying
> to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that
> poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but
> I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours.
> 
I agree, the level of rudeness in this group is nearly as embarrassing as the 
level of pomposity and obsequity in the official TMO. 

Post some intelligent comments and help to improve the signal to noise ratio.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "BillyG."  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
> >
> > Do you earn anything by promoting this thing?
> 
> She sounds like a spammer to me...maybe Rick should look into it.

Even if she is, my bet is there are people here 
who are gullible enough to not only buy whatever is 
being sold but to moodmake benefits from it. 

For example, our new member from the UK might be
interested. Anyone who can live in "Scorpion nation"
and yet still believe that "dear Maharishi was always 
positive" and that "the TMO never expresses negativity"
will buy ANYTHING.

:-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
>
> Perhaps I'm jaded, Meera, but my first thought upon 
> reading this entry of your's and then clicking on 
> the link below (and watching about 5 minutes of the 
> video) was whether or not your promotion of mind 
> movies earns you money.
> 
> Do you earn anything by promoting this thing?

I noticed that, too. Very *impolite* site, nerd-wise.
Any site that doesn't allow you to gracefully close
its tab without preventing you from doing it so that
it can try several more times to sell you something 
is a scam.

It should probably be mentioned as well that the last
person on this forum who was trying to sell us on the
high spiritual value of "The Secret" is the TM TB who 
attempted to get Fairfield Life shut down by posting 
porn to it and then complaining to the Yahoo adminis-
trators about it. I wonder what *he* was trying to 
"attract."  :-)


> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Meera Watts"  wrote:
> >
> > Dear All, 
> > I am not sure if you remember the DVD "The Secret" launched 
> > few years back. One of our family friends had introduced to 
> > us. I remember seeing it but so far no action or no results. 
> > Some of you may not have seen it either and not sure what I 
> > am talking about. Just for info for them, I am talking about 
> > "Law of attraction". You can search the net for it to find 
> > out more. 
> > Yesterday I came across "Mind Movies" while surfing the net.
> > Let me explain...
> > One thing I've noticed along the way is how difficult it can 
> > be to try and get your "inner game" finely tuned so you 
> > actually can achieve what you want in life.
> > This applies to business, personal life, finances...EVERYTHING.
> > Sure, you can set goals and all that, but somehow you just 
> > seem to lose focus before you get there. It's kind of like 
> > too much garbage gets in the way, you know?
> > All that is about to change!
> > Because now there is a powerful way to literally set your 
> > sites on what you want to happen in your life, and then GET 
> > IT--simply by watching a movie
> > I'm NOT kidding.
> > The best thing is for you to see how this works for yourself. 
> > I think you'll catch the vision very quickly when you do.
> > Watch this to find out how to achieve anything you want:
> > http://www.mindmovies.com/?13592 
> > You can go to YouTube and search for "mind movies" and you 
> > will see lot of them posted by bunch of people. I am in 
> > process of creating my one and will share with you once 
> > it's done.
> > Cheers!
> > Meera
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!

2009-07-15 Thread BillyG.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"  wrote:
>
> Perhaps I'm jaded, Meera, but my first thought upon reading this entry of 
> your's and then clicking on the link below (and watching about 5 minutes of 
> the video) was whether or not your promotion of mind movies earns you money.
> 
> Do you earn anything by promoting this thing?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Meera Watts"  wrote:
> >
> > Dear All, 
> > I am not sure if you remember the DVD "The Secret" launched few years
> > back. One of our family friends had introduced to us. I remember seeing
> > it but so far no action or no results. Some of you may not have seen it
> > either and not sure what I am talking about. Just for info for them, I
> > am talking about "Law of attraction". You can search the net for it to
> > find out more. 
> > Yesterday I came across "Mind Movies" while surfing the net.
> > Let me explain...
> > One thing I've noticed along the way is how difficult it can be to try
> > and get your "inner game" finely tuned so you actually can achieve what
> > you want in life.
> > This applies to business, personal life, finances...EVERYTHING.
> > Sure, you can set goals and all that, but somehow you just seem to lose
> > focus before you get there. It's kind of like too much garbage gets in
> > the way, you know?
> > All that is about to change!
> > Because now there is a powerful way to literally set your sites on what
> > you want to happen in your life, and then GET IT--simply by watching a
> > movie
> > I'm NOT kidding.
> > The best thing is for you to see how this works for yourself. I think
> > you'll catch the vision very quickly when you do.
> > Watch this to find out how to achieve anything you want:
> > http://www.mindmovies.com/?13592 
> > You can go to YouTube and search for "mind movies" and you will see lot
> > of them posted by bunch of people. I am in process of creating my one
> > and will share with you once it's done.
> > Cheers!
> > Meera
> >

She sounds like a spammer to me...maybe Rick should look into it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Want to Achieve anything you want!

Perhaps I'm jaded, Meera, but my first thought upon reading this entry of 
your's and then clicking on the link below (and watching about 5 minutes of the 
video) was whether or not your promotion of mind movies earns you money.

Do you earn anything by promoting this thing?




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Meera Watts"  wrote:
>
> Dear All, 
> I am not sure if you remember the DVD "The Secret" launched few years
> back. One of our family friends had introduced to us. I remember seeing
> it but so far no action or no results. Some of you may not have seen it
> either and not sure what I am talking about. Just for info for them, I
> am talking about "Law of attraction". You can search the net for it to
> find out more. 
> Yesterday I came across "Mind Movies" while surfing the net.
> Let me explain...
> One thing I've noticed along the way is how difficult it can be to try
> and get your "inner game" finely tuned so you actually can achieve what
> you want in life.
> This applies to business, personal life, finances...EVERYTHING.
> Sure, you can set goals and all that, but somehow you just seem to lose
> focus before you get there. It's kind of like too much garbage gets in
> the way, you know?
> All that is about to change!
> Because now there is a powerful way to literally set your sites on what
> you want to happen in your life, and then GET IT--simply by watching a
> movie
> I'm NOT kidding.
> The best thing is for you to see how this works for yourself. I think
> you'll catch the vision very quickly when you do.
> Watch this to find out how to achieve anything you want:
> http://www.mindmovies.com/?13592 
> You can go to YouTube and search for "mind movies" and you will see lot
> of them posted by bunch of people. I am in process of creating my one
> and will share with you once it's done.
> Cheers!
> Meera
>

[FairfieldLife] Red State's Jackie and Dunlap on Sarah Palin



You Betcha!

Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKryG50KMeE

[FairfieldLife] Dharma Walk: Bodies, breasts, and Buddha-nature

I've just come back from one of the most pleasant walks
along the Sitges beach I've ever experienced. It was the
same beach, full of the same suntan-oil-covered bodies,
but what made it different this time is that I got to
share the walk with a friend who was here in Sitges for 
a short time.

She was here to give a talk last night at a large con-
ference on the empowerment of women in business, or
something like that. She kindly left my name at the door, 
so I was able to hear it, and it personified everything 
I've been trying to say on this forum about the differ-
ence between real feminists and those who call themselves 
feminists but choose to live their lives as if they were
perpetual victims.

Her talk lasted 45 minutes. She spoke to an audience of
400-500 women. During that time, she felt no need to 
mention men even once. What she spoke about was success
and how to achieve it, which she can do with some cred-
ibility because the companies she created made her a 
millionaire in her late 30s and has allowed her to retire
now that she's in her late 40s. There was no talk of 
"sexism," or "men hating women"...only talk of what the 
women at the conference could do to become successful 
themselves. 

She had told me on the phone that she wouldn't have time
to chat after her talk, so we met for a quick lunch today
before she hopped on a plane to head off for a month-long
yoga retreat in India. We know each other from the Rama 
trip, which we both spent 14 years in. I watched her grow 
in that movement from a lovely but insecure girl with no 
computer skills to a capable and *very* secure high-tech 
millionaire in a mere ten of those years. But interestingly 
enough, Rama's name did not come up even once over lunch, 
or during our walk along the Sitges beach afterwards. The 
past never came up period, because for both of us the things 
we had been doing *lately* were much more interesting than 
the things we did with him 11 to 25 years ago. It was as 
if Now was so full that Then just didn't have room to 
"squeeze in."

And lunch was nice, as we caught up on our respective Nows,
but it was the walk along the beach that made it a wonderful
experience for me. My friend loves life and loves to laugh, 
so walking with her along a Spanish beach full of naked or 
near-naked bodies turned into a non-stop laugh-fest.

We walked along, laughing, enjoying the sun, and having fun.
The only "homage" to our time together with Rama is that we
spent some time playing "Who's pushing it out?" That was an
exercise in perception he taught us in which you shift your
state of attention to the place from which you can see other 
people's auras or energy patterns and then see which of them 
are content with keeping their energy to themselves and which
instead feel compelled to "push it out" to attract attention
from others. Interestingly, we both noticed that it was pri-
marily the tourists (those without tans) who felt compelled 
to "push it out" and troll for attention; the Spanish seemed 
more content to keep their shakti in their Speedos or bikini 
bottoms and not seem to *need* a lot of external attention. 

The fact that about half of the women were wearing *only*
bikini bottoms became the next subject for merriment. I have
been here so long that I rarely even notice that the beach
is one long boob-fest, but for some reason my friend seemed
to be actively checking out the beach boobage, as if she found
it utterly fascinating. I know from experience ( before she 
was married ) that she is far from "breast-challenged" herself, 
so I knew that she wasn't conducting this boob inventory out 
of envy. So I asked what she *was* checking for, and she said 
(cracking up), "Authenticity, as measured by compliance with 
the law of gravity."

It turns out she had been on a California beach recently, sim-
ilarly topless, and had been struck by how much of the boobage
on display there was *not* authentic, in the sense that it did
not come as "original equipment" on the body now wearing it. 
She estimated that on that California beach, 30-40% of the 
breasts on display were store-bought. What fascinated her 
about Spain was how *few* were store-bought. I started paying 
attention with her, and she'd point out the store-bought ones 
with a hearty "There...that woman lying on her back, the one 
whose boobs are pointing straight up like they're doing the
Sun Salutation," and we'd both crack up and chant the mantra 
of our walk, "Real boobs obey the law of gravity."

Overall, she was impressed by how comfortable the Spanish 
seemed to be in their bodies, especially as compared to the
women at her talk the night before. Most of them were from 
England or the U.S., and even I -- sitting in the back of the
room trying to be unobtrusive during my friend's talk -- could
not help but notice how much most of them needed to LIGHTEN 
UP. That was why it was so interesting that the gist *of* 
my friend's talk was about LIGHTENING UP as the secret of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Misogynistic attack on Sarah Palin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
> >
[I wrote:]
> >  (snip)
> > > One might also ask what *Barry* has ever done that
> > > "deserves" our attention  
> >  (snip)
> 
> Before asking that, one might ask why (other than
> projection of their own desires) Barry might WANT
> your attention, let alone think he "deserves" it.
> 
> Barry has said many times here that he's writing
> for himself, for the sheer pleasure of writing and
> for the occasional entertainment value of seeing
> how people react *or* not react to that writing.

Barry: NOBODY IS FOOLED.

(Well, maybe except for Robert. Ain't that a proud
accomplishment!)

Even Barry's *toadies* know this is bullshit. Saying
it "many times here" is just another of the many ways
Barry begs for attention.

> But again it comes down to "Don't believe what I
> say...just watch." PAY ATTENTION to who on this
> forum complains and bitches and moans when they
> post something and no one replies, or they reply
> in a way that takes the original post off on a 
> tangent. I think you'll find that that isn't me.
> I think you'll find, in fact, that it's the
> complainant above.

NOBODY IS FOOLED. They know I don't do this.

> Good perception. Take the little exercise that the
> complainant above fell for yesterday. I didn't know
> exactly how many posts she made during that period 
> of time that were *not* expressing her pleasure at 
> someone else's humiliation or misfortune, and I 
> didn't care. I started checking, found none in the
> first 20 posts or so, and got bored with it.

NOBODY IS FOOLED. They know Barry *lied*.

They know--as I've pointed out--that he assumed I
would *not* go through 270 pages of the Yahoo message
list, so he thought he was safe in denouncing me as
lacking the "self-honesty" to check.

But he miscalculated badly, because he forgot about
the other archive.

And then when his lies were exposed, he fell back
on this new lie:

 My
> only purpose in suggesting the whole "bet" was to
> see whether I could get *HER* to do it. And that
> was interesting *only* because of your insightful
> sentence above, Robert.
> 
> I wanted to see whether -- having been suckered 
> into going through all of her posts for the last
> month or so and *realizing* how many of them were
> all about her gloating over someone else's humili-
> ation or misfortune, and how few involved her
> expressing pleasure at anything human and real --
> she would LEARN anything from this.

I learned exactly what I suspected, that Barry had
lied. Not exactly breaking news, to me or anybody
else here.

I know what proportion of my posts I spend doing
what. It isn't accidental.

But let's look at the *additional* lies in Barry's
paragraph above:

First, he omits the category of posts I make that
involve straightforward discussion. I make far more
of those than he does.

Second, I don't gloat over anyone's misfortune.

Third, the *vast* majority of posts I make in which
I do anything remotely like "gloating over someone's
humiliation" are in response to Barry's posts. He's
the person I humiliate most often, by exposing his
lies, his hypocrisy, his sloppy thinking, his self-
exaltation, and his overall fraudulence. That's why
he hates me.

And that reveals yet another lie: that he Doesn't Give
a Shit what people think of him. If he really didn't
give a shit, how could he possibly be humiliated?

And along those lines, look at how much of the rest
of his post is devoted to attempting to polish his
image and defend himself from criticism.

NOBODY IS FOOLED.

> She did not. All she saw in the exercise was yet
> another attempt to scream "I won," and "Gotcha."

Didn't scream either one, of course. What happened
was that once again, Barry *LOST*. He was
humiliated. He thought he had a sure bet; he didn't
think he was risking having his lies exposed.

> That's pretty pathetic. 

Says Barry, the inveterate hypocrite, trying to make
readers believe he has something to gloat over (it's
*fine* when he does it, you see), thinking if he
screams "I won" and "Gotcha" loudly enough, folks will
think he humiliated me, when they know it was exactly
the reverse.

NOBODY IS FOOLED.

> By contrast, look at Bob Brigante's posts today.
> Having been once again placed on a "Watch List"
> of 30-year meditators and pointed at as what he
> is --

Notice how carefully Barry phrases the above to
disguise the fact that *the* "Watch List" is his own
conceit, and that Barry is the only one doing any
pointing.

 an EXAMPLE of what TM produces -- he seems
> to have LEARNED something. He has posted a bunch
> of positive stuff.

No, he hasn't. He's posted the same type of stuff he
usually does, some positive, some negative.

But Barry, controlled by his desperate need *to*
control, spins Bob's posting as the result of Barry's
own actions.

NOBODY IS FOOLED.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:

> * Believing that someone who is old enough to
> be a grandfather but who still enjoys sex is
> "acting like a teenybopper"

There are many more ways, of course, in which
Barry "acts like a teenybopper."

> * Having been diagnosed with painful and fatal
> cancers and wishing to die with some semblance
> of dignity and in each others' arms instead of 
> dying alone in some ghastly hospital room, 
> doped up on drugs or screaming, is "ignorance."

Although Barry gets his facts wrong, as usual (the
conductor was not terminally ill and didn't have
cancer, his wife did; and they didn't "die in each
other's arms" but on beds next to each other,
holding hands), I totally agree with his
perspective. It's *barbaric* for people not to be
allowed to die in comfort at a time and in a place
and by means of their own choosing, *whether they're
ill or not*.

Seems to me it's the most fundamental violation of
human rights to force somebody to endure whatever
unpleasantness they want to avoid by taking their
life, whether it's dying in pain or having to live
without their beloved partner, or simply because
whatever made their lives worth living--in their own
judgment--was no longer available to them.

(In addition to facing the loss of his terminally
ill wife, the conductor had also become blind and
almost deaf.)

Since society is not harmed by a person taking
their own life, and since nobody knows what happens
after death, the individual should be free to decide
whether they want to risk the chance of negative
repercussions in the afterlife, if there even is one.

The only precautions that need to be taken are to
ensure nobody is coerced or pressured into making
such a decision.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hello from the UK

2009-07-15 Thread svenssonjack

Ignorance truly is bliss for some people. 




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "davidpalmer108"  
wrote:
>
> 
> I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying
> to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that
> poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but
> I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours.
> 
> 
> Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
> boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross
> experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience
> is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer
> blemishes.
> 
> 
> But our dear Maharishi was always positive, so he saw transcending as a
> path to increasing bliss (aanandaad dheva...), and not a retreat from
> boredom. Relativity is always dual, we can always view something from
> two sides. It is our choice whether we focus on positive or negative.
> The TMO never expresses negativity because Maharishi said we shouldn't
> focus on it (Maa vid dvishaavahai) - It is just a waste of energy.
> 
> 
> By the way, I don't have a badge - I hope that will be OK
> 
> 
> Jai Guru Dev
> David
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for accepting me!

2009-07-15 Thread gullible fool

It sounds like you may need a checking, Rick. Make sure it is by a re-certified 
male governor in a home with proper vastu.

"Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love." 

- Amma  

--- On Tue, 7/14/09, Rick Archer  wrote:

From: Rick Archer 
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for accepting me!
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 4:59 PM

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of ffl...@yahoo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:40 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thanks for accepting me!

>I like WillyTex - he always comes across as time as just the biggest,  most 
>huggable bundle of fun I can imagine.

>He is more fun to read than many others. I find his own unique and 
>creative way of trolling to be interesting at times.

Nabby too. Where would we be without Nabby? He's as much fun as a barrel of 
monkies.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Maharishi Ayurveda mercury and heavy metals medicine

2009-07-15 Thread Vaj



On Jul 15, 2009, at 3:07 AM, guyfawkes91 wrote:




Here's some of the metals in it:
Swaran Siddha Makaradwaj (mercury and sulphur)
Lauh bhasma (oxidized iron, a.k.a. "rust")
Abhrak bhasma (aluminum/potassium)
Vanga bhasma (tin)

Serve with EDTA infusion; stirred, not shaken...



So when people refer to the inner circle as being "as mad as  
hatters" they're really quite accurate. The term "as mad as a  
hatter" (cv Alice in Wonderland) came from a time when hatters  
routinely used mercury for something to do with hats, got mercury  
poisoning and went mad.


It explains a lot.



The tendency in many westerners, Americans in particular, is to think  
'if something is good for you, then more is better'. Unfortunately  
for Ayurvedic "siddha" medicines like Energol, the opposite is true.  
So someone swallowing pills once or more daily, on a long term basis  
is a recipe for disaster.

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Beach Boys to play FF?

2009-07-15 Thread Dick Mays

http://goldentrianglenewspapers.com/articles/2009/07/14/fairfield_daily_ledger/top_stories/doc4a5ce1455f9fa655465985.txt

School board OKs use of grounds for Beach Boys show

By VICKI TILLIS
Ledger news editor
Published: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:49 PM CDT

Fairfield Arts & Convention Center, Fairfield
Iowa Convention and Visitors Bureau and the David
Lynch Foundation are presenting a Beach Boys
concert Sept. 7.

The Fairfield Community School District Board of
Directors approved the use of the Fairfield
Middle School grounds for a Beach Boys concert
Sept. 7.

According to superintendent Don Achelpohl, the
two-hour concert will be presented on the fields
west of the middle school the afternoon of Labor
Day.

The grass is very solid there ... it used to be a dairy farm, he said.

Achelpohl said concert organizers - Fairfield
Arts & Convention Center, Fairfield Iowa
Convention and Visitors Bureau and the David
Lynch Foundation - are paying a $500 fee.

The organizers also plan to use the districts
school buses and drivers to shuttle people from
off-site parking to the concert. Achelpohl said
the organizers will pay for the fuel and the
overtime salaries of the drivers.

Concert goers will not have access to the tennis
courts or the middle school building. The
promoters will have portable toilets available.

The promoters also are providing security and
guaranteeing no smoking and no drinking, said
Achelpohl. They also will take care of all the
clean up.

The districts support groups, as well as the
convention center and convention and visitors
bureau, will have an opportunity to earn revenue
by selling refreshments during the concert.

For the complete story, see the Tuesday, July 14,
2009, printed edition of The Fairfield Ledger.

Steven M. Guich, Ph.D
Renaissance Capital Partners
ste...@rencapp.com
949-422-6295

[FairfieldLife] Hello from the UK

2009-07-15 Thread davidpalmer108


I came across your group by chance the other day, and have been trying
to catch up with your insane banter ever since. How you treated that
poor lady who thanked you for letting her join was quite scandalous, but
I guess one must expect a tough initiation from a group like yours.


Someone was recently suggesting that transcending occurs through
boredom. This is, of course, true - one is bored of more gross
experience, and heads to something more subtle. More refined experience
is always more attractive because it is more perfect, has fewer
blemishes.


But our dear Maharishi was always positive, so he saw transcending as a
path to increasing bliss (aanandaad dheva...), and not a retreat from
boredom. Relativity is always dual, we can always view something from
two sides. It is our choice whether we focus on positive or negative.
The TMO never expresses negativity because Maharishi said we shouldn't
focus on it (Maa vid dvishaavahai) - It is just a waste of energy.


By the way, I don't have a badge - I hope that will be OK


Jai Guru Dev
David

[FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Maharishi Ayurveda mercury and heavy metals medicine

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
>
> When Amrit Kalash (Nectar of Immortality)went on sale the TMO 
> did a big questionaire in the UKs sidha community hoping to 
> get amazing tales of transformation, everyone was taking it 
> of course. I mean, you would take it with all the fanfare that 
> surrounded it. The reported results were so disappointing that
> the whole thing was quietly shelved and forgotten about. An 
> amusing case of hiding the research that doesn't fit your claims.

"Every questionnaire is the perfect opportunity
for the answer we have already prepared."  :-)

> It never did anything for me. My dog wouldn't eat it either.

Once in Santa Fe I was walking the two dogs who
now live with me (they were my former girlfriend's
dogs at the time) and we passed a building at which
a locally-famous spiritual teacher was "giving
darshan." There were crowds of people standing 
outside waiting for this guy to arrive. 

Curious, I let the dogs off the leash and let them
wander around while I sat on a bench and waiting for
this guy to arrive, so that I could check out his
aura and see what I thought about him. They are
"people dogs," and were well-behaved. The guy fin-
ally arrived and did the "humbly accepting flowers
from his followers" thang the way Maharishi used
to do, so I was able to sit there and check him
out. I was seriously underwhelmed...no phwam! or
energy at all, and his act seemed to consist of 
spending the most time with the people who fawned 
over him the most. I hear that once inside, that
was his act as well, but I can't say for sure 
because I was not the least tempted to go inside. 

But there was another reason I wasn't tempted to
check this guy out any further. My dogs took one 
look at this guy and started barking at him. Their
hair bristled and they treated him the way they
would have treated a coyote. I had to drag them
away to keep them from biting him.

About six months later, I read that the "spiritual
teacher" in question had been convicted of massive
fraud and sexual inappropriateness (including rape)
with many of his "followers," both male and female. 
He did time in prison. Obviously, the jurors per-
ceived him differently than his former "followers" 
had.

Me, I wasn't surprised to read this. Dogs know 
things that we mere humans don't.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Popular Maharishi Ayurveda mercury and heavy metals medicine

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91  wrote:
>
>  
> > Here's some of the metals in it:
> > Swaran Siddha Makaradwaj (mercury and sulphur)
> > Lauh bhasma (oxidized iron, a.k.a. "rust")
> > Abhrak bhasma (aluminum/potassium)
> > Vanga bhasma (tin)

That's the good thing about ayurveda: An ounce of prevention is worth a pound 
of cure.

Funny thing is, I was on a course in east europe once and someone
said that all the ayurvedic stuff on sale was direct from India 
and had all the "precious" metals in it that they aren't allowed to export. We 
all got excited about being able to buy the "real" thing
and loaded up with bottles and jars of stuff that promised all sorts of magical 
transformations. [Sigh] How innocent and trusting we were.

At least I didn't get ill from anything, didn't notice any effect
at all actually. Probably safer that way.

When Amrit Kalash (Nectar of Immortality)went on sale the TMO 
did a big questionaire in the UKs sidha community hoping to 
get amazing tales of transformation, everyone was taking it 
of course. I mean, you would take it with all the fanfare that surrounded it. 
The reported results were so disappointing that
the whole thing was quietly shelved and forgotten about. An 
amusing case of hiding the research that doesn't fit your claims.
It never did anything for me. My dog wouldn't eat it either.

> > Serve with EDTA infusion; stirred, not shaken...
> >
> 
> So when people refer to the inner circle as being "as mad as hatters" they're 
> really quite accurate. The term "as mad as a hatter" (cv Alice in Wonderland) 
> came from a time when hatters routinely used mercury for something to do with 
> hats, got mercury poisoning and went mad.
> 
> It explains a lot.
>

The original Mad Hatter was from my home town.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A882939

[FairfieldLife] Re: Misogynistic attack on Sarah Palin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert"  wrote:
>
>  (snip)
> > One might also ask what *Barry* has ever done that
> > "deserves" our attention  
>  (snip)

Before asking that, one might ask why (other than
projection of their own desires) Barry might WANT
your attention, let alone think he "deserves" it.

Barry has said many times here that he's writing
for himself, for the sheer pleasure of writing and
for the occasional entertainment value of seeing
how people react *or* not react to that writing.

But again it comes down to "Don't believe what I
say...just watch." PAY ATTENTION to who on this
forum complains and bitches and moans when they
post something and no one replies, or they reply
in a way that takes the original post off on a 
tangent. I think you'll find that that isn't me.
I think you'll find, in fact, that it's the
complainant above.

> Turk(Barry) is an excellent movie reviewer, and also, 
> gives a sense of what is like in Europe...

A very warped, highly subjective sense of what it
is like in Europe *for me*. If anyone happens to
enjoy that very warped, highly subjective snapshot,
that's their business. 

> He also, is excellent at pushing people's buttons, to 
> have them, perhaps, think or feel more deeply, on why 
> they might feel so challenged by his comments...

Good perception. Take the little exercise that the
complainant above fell for yesterday. I didn't know
exactly how many posts she made during that period 
of time that were *not* expressing her pleasure at 
someone else's humiliation or misfortune, and I 
didn't care. I started checking, found none in the
first 20 posts or so, and got bored with it. My
only purpose in suggesting the whole "bet" was to
see whether I could get *HER* to do it. And that
was interesting *only* because of your insightful
sentence above, Robert.

I wanted to see whether -- having been suckered 
into going through all of her posts for the last
month or so and *realizing* how many of them were
all about her gloating over someone else's humili-
ation or misfortune, and how few involved her
expressing pleasure at anything human and real --
she would LEARN anything from this.

She did not. All she saw in the exercise was yet
another attempt to scream "I won," and "Gotcha."

That's pretty pathetic. 

By contrast, look at Bob Brigante's posts today.
Having been once again placed on a "Watch List"
of 30-year meditators and pointed at as what he
is -- an EXAMPLE of what TM produces -- he seems
to have LEARNED something. He has posted a bunch
of positive stuff. Personally, I happen to believe
that much of it is positive propaganda, but I am
not going to rag on it because I appreciate his
gesture. Having been pointed out as an example
of what TM produces, he posted some *positive*
things. Good for him.

What has the complainant above done?

Only attacked more, and continued to play "Gotcha."

She has learned NOTHING from this whole exercise.
Having gone through it, she will probably spend 
*all 50** of her posts this week playing "Gotcha," 
while thinking she's "winning." And she'll do the
same thing next week, and the next. As I said, 
pathetic.

> He is certainly a dedicated writer, of this rag-tag 
> group, and I wouldn't underestimate his ability, to 
> come up with some pretty wild spins, and observations 
> of everyday occurrences...

I don't know about "dedicated." "Chained to the
computer" is more like it. :-)

I work mainly at home, writing XML and code that
demands long compile and publication times. It 
is not unusual for me to spend 10 minutes sitting
and waiting for every hour I spend writing. So 
during those "down time" periods I catch up on
FFL and several other forums I participate in. I
do this for fun, and the way that my French co-
workers take cigarette breaks. ( My boss has no
problem with this, because he smokes and knows
that his cigarette breaks constitute far more
"down time" than my "Internet breaks." )

During these "Internet breaks" yes, I *delight*
in putting "wild spins" on things. Where's the 
fun in seeing stuff the way that others see it?
What's to be LEARNED from seeing or describing
things the way that others see them?

> He is also, one of the only people in the world, who 
> has actually witnessed someone levitating!

Actually, to clarify, I am one of thousands who
have witnessed someone levitating, and that's
speaking only of Frederick Lenz - Rama. 

> Turqs bag of tricks is almost unlimited!
> And his subtle removal of masks...

One of the benefits of studying with Frederick
Lenz - Rama is that he was the polar opposite
of Maharishi. Maharishi was all about heaping
praise on students to get them to do things.
Tell them they're great and they'll give him
money. Tell them they're the most important
people on the planet and they won't notice that
none of them are enlightened yet. There was no
pressure to ever CHANGE around Maharishi. You
could stay stuck in the same ruts for decades,
and as evidenced here, many did.

[FairfieldLife] Re: JAMA lists MAPI US lead contaminated products

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
>
> Despite the fact that MAPI claims they test for metals, at least two  
> products have lead in them according to the JAMA article Lead,  
> Mercury, and Arsenic in US- and Indian-Manufactured Ayurvedic  
> Medicines Sold via the Internet. Who knows how many other MAPI  
> products are similarly tainted? And these aren't even the product with  
> heavy metals listed as ingredients!
> 
> The two products that were shown (in this sampling) to have lead  
> contamination were "Vital Lady" and (LOL) "Worry Free".
> 
> http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/reprint/300/8/915.pdf
>


That settles it, I'm going to stop taking Vital Lady immediately!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ignorance in High Society?