Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bhairitu calls Obama and his administration "fascists"

[Bhairitu]

ShempMcGurk wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>   
>> ShempMcGurk wrote:
>> 
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But the fascists will use 
>>>   
>>>   
 any excuse to put fear into the public to control them.  
 
 
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think that's quite fair of you, Bhairitu, to be calling Barack 
>>> Obama and his administration "fascists".
>>>   
>> Reread my post.  I said the WH (that's for White House in case you don't 
>> know) jumped the gun.  Yes, hold their damn feet to the fire.  They 
>> asked us to.
>>
>> In the context I mentioned it was more the government agencies I 
>> addressed as "fascists". 
>> 
>
>
>
>
> Nope.
>
> The president runs the government.  He is the big cheese and is responsible 
> for all actions by those under him and, as the article stated, it was the 
> decision of the White House to do the one hour thing.

Nah, it's their idea of making it look like they're doing something.  
You aren't paying attention.  I haven't been cutting Barrack a lot of 
slack lately.  Tyranny is tyranny regardless of what side the aisle it 
is on.  You only seem to want to call it out if it is on the aisle 
opposite yours.

And the flight attendant said the last hour is when everyone wants to 
puke, pee or shit so it isn't going to fly (pardon the pun).

Some of you need to evolve more so you can really see the games being 
played.  I would have expected even TM to give you that ability years 
ago.  But I suspect if you were a collie or a tabby in your last life it 
might be a little difficult.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Airlines overreact to "alleged" bombing attempt

[Bhairitu]

ROLF!  The folks like Barry, Judy, Willy, Vaj, Card and Do who were on 
a.m.t know the origin of the Bhairitu handle.  We'll let you meditate on 
it a while and maybe it will come to you.  Don't spend to many lifetimes 
on it though. :-D

dhamiltony2k5 wrote:
> Though do have to worry about this doubting 'bhairitu' guy.  With a foreign 
> handle like that trying to absolve these terrorist guys, have to wonder what 
> his interest is.  Like, when was the last time he had his meditation checked? 
>  Or, was he just flying off the handle.  
>
> Alex as moderator, what is this 'bhairritu' IP address and real name anyway?  
> Have to wonder if hs he even a meditator.  He talks a good line, sometimes.  
> How many times a day does he git down on his knees and 'pray'.  What's he 
> doing when he 'prays' as 'meditation'.  Would love to see the peer review 
> science on that prayer.  
>
>
>
>
>   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Airlines overreact to "alleged" bombing attempt

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> 
> > As the story unfolds on the 23 year old kid my bet is he
> > has no real connection to any terrorist group especially
> > Al-Qaeda but is just a nut case.  That is apparently what
> > his dad fears.  But the fascists will use any excuse to
> > put fear into the public to control them.  My bet is that 
> > airlines from other countries won't bother with such rules.
> 
> As it's unfolding, it's beginning to look as though
> it may have been the real thing, Al Qaeda and all.
> From Brian Ross's team at ABC News:
> 
> "The plot to blow up an American passenger jet over 
> Detroit was organized and launched by al Qaeda leaders 
> in Yemen who apparently sewed bomb materials into the 
> suspect's underwear before sending him on his mission, 
> federal authorities tell ABC News. 
> 
> "Investigators say the suspect had more than 80 grams of 
> PETN, a compound related to nitro-glycerin used by the 
> military. The so-called shoe bomber, Richard Reid, had 
> only about 50 grams in his failed attempt in 2001 to 
> blow up a U.S.-bound jet. Yesterday's bomb failed 
> because the detonator may have been too small or was 
> not in 'proper contact' with the explosive material, 
> investigators told ABC News. 
> 
> "Investigators say the suspect, Abdul Farouk Umar 
> Abdulmutallab, a 23-year-old Nigerian student whose 
> birthday was last Tuesday, has provided detailed 
> information about his recruitment and training for what 
> was supposed to be a Christmas Day suicide attack"
> 
> Read more:
> 
> http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/northwest-bomb-plot-planned-al-qaeda-yemen/story?id=9426085
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/yk653lz
> 
> Lots more details at the link, including that the packet
> of powder had been sewn to his underwear right next to his
> genitals, where it would be less likely to be discovered.
> Wonder how that will affect body-search procedures for
> men.
> 

Well, all I can say is, if they want folks to take of anything more than their 
shoes, short your airline stocks.

Can't wait for the late night jokes.

> Apparently he burned his balls pretty badly when he tried
> to set the thing off.
>

Sorry, it's difficult to feel sympathetic about his self inflicted injuries.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sally Albright Theory Of Politics (was: The Left's Fatal Abstraction)

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> > > Yup. I must admit, though, I don't know what the hell
> > > Hamsher is doing with her Grover Norquist stunt. I know
> > > what her stated rationale is, but I'm not at all sure it
> > > makes any sense. Much as I'd like to see Rahm have to
> > > pack his bags, this effort isn't going anywhere. All
> > > Hamsher's going to do is destroy her own credibility.
> > 
> > Jane is swinging for the fence and she's taking a lot of
> > flack for it. I applaud her courage. Even though it's
> > Grover  with whom she wrote a letter, she's doing
> > what lefties such as Thom Hartmann have recommended,
> > finding common ground with independents and the tea party.
> 
> If this is what Hartmann recommended, I don't support
> it. What I support is finding common ground with the 
> grassroots, the ordinary folks who are suffering from
> current conditions. That ain't Grover Norquist.
> 

Maybe Jane's alliance with Grover isn't exactly what Hartmann had in mind but 
IMO she fulfills the spirit of Hartman's intention. Jane's populist message to 
hold corrupt politicians to account reaches across party lines. Even though 
it's via Grover, she has the ear of ordinary folks who are as sick of 
government corruption as we are and they admire can someone willing to break 
rank from their political ties to tell the truth. 

Hartman talks about finding common ground with the unschooled rabble in order 
to challenge corporate interests but Jane is the first person that I know of to 
actually do it. "Good on her," as Thom would say. The fact that she is getting 
so much flack for her first foray into "bipartisanship" tells me she's onto 
something. The louder they yell at her, the better I like it. Jane is trying to 
reach a whole new audience with a message that says we are not the enemy and we 
need to work together to throw the bums out.

One of Jane's bloggers had an inspiring story today "Intelligence Report from 
Enemy Territory" about a Christmas visit to her staunchly, Republican family. 
Following Jane's lead she was surprised to find common ground with her father, 
a true blue Glenn Beck fan. Excerpt:

"I just had Christmas dinner with my right wing family members and Jane has 
some new fans. Generally, political talk is not allowed at family gatherings, 
at least not the ones I am at, though the rest of them could cheer each others' 
opinions on all day. This Christmas, not only could we talk politics, we were 
on the same page. My dad is the farthest right and most vocal of the group. 
He's also the one who has given me every book Glenn Beck has ever written.

I asked my dad if he had heard that Jane Hamsher and Grover Norquist had sent a 
joint letter to Holder asking for an investigation of Rahm Emanuel. He hadn't 
been plugged in, but was intrigued, so I told him more about it. He's now one 
of Jane's biggest fans. My dad won't sign her petition because he's afraid 
he'll get emails from lefties, but he wants me to keep him apprised of what 
FDL's doing on the issues we have common ground on and he made a donation 
through ActBlue."

Read more:
http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/20907

> As far as courage is concerned, it takes courage to
> step in front of a speeding ten-ton truck, but is it
> smart?
> 

Hyperbole, much? I think the jury is still out on whether or not Jane is 
killing off her credibility in the bloggesphere. I do notice however, her 
loudest critics are some of Obama's biggest toadies, which gives me confidence 
she is on the right track.  

> > In this case she shines a much needed light on Rahm's
> > collusion with Fannie and Freddie, especially since this
> > body is currently without oversight and Congress is set
> > to give them more TARP money. Gee, I wonder how that
> > happened? Behind the scenes Rahm can work his magic to
> > get sweetheart deals for Fannie and Freddie but he can't
> > seem to get us a public option? Go figure.
> 
> He didn't want one, he just wanted to get a big
> impressive bill passed.
> 

Yep, another padded resumé.

> He may or may not be corrupt, but even if he is, I
> think this is a distraction that is only going to have
> negative effects. The optics are terrible--look at what
> folks are saying about the fringe left helping the
> Republican Party. That is *not* the goal!
> 

I would say the optics look more like fire ants in lefty pants than terrible. 
Watch 'em squirm, I say. No matter how hard the left spins it to make Jane look 
like a traitor, it only affirms my belief that she is rocking the lefty boat 
hard enough to drown rodents clinging to the gunnels. (Sorry, can't resist 
metaphors.)

> Plus which, in the immediate wake of the Senate bill
> passing, it really does look as if it's motivated by
> spite rather than political savvy.
> 

Perhaps so, but if you're 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bhairitu calls Obama and his administration "fascists"

[ShempMcGurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> ShempMcGurk wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >
> >
> > But the fascists will use 
> >   
> >> any excuse to put fear into the public to control them.  
> >> 
> >
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't think that's quite fair of you, Bhairitu, to be calling Barack 
> > Obama and his administration "fascists".
> 
> Reread my post.  I said the WH (that's for White House in case you don't 
> know) jumped the gun.  Yes, hold their damn feet to the fire.  They 
> asked us to.
> 
> In the context I mentioned it was more the government agencies I 
> addressed as "fascists". 




Nope.

The president runs the government.  He is the big cheese and is responsible for 
all actions by those under him and, as the article stated, it was the decision 
of the White House to do the one hour thing.

Sorry, Bhairitu, but you had a memory lapse and you were running on autopilot; 
you thought you were back in the Bush days.  But you're not; this is the Obama 
and HIS government you have called fascists.

Don't try to weasel out of it.




> Now either they too are overreacting or some 
> of them on power trips or real fascists are making them do it.
> 
> But government employees work for us and I don't pay my taxes to have 
> them push me around.  However the only time I've flown since all this 
> security hoopla I was treated politely and unobtrusively by TSA employees.
> 
> When I traveled in India back in the mid-90s security was tighter than 
> in the US but people were still polite and unobtrusive.  It was not a 
> big show like it has become here and that is all it is "a big show."
> 
> In about an hour I will be having dinner with my relatives and I will 
> ask the member who is a flight attendant (for NWA no less) what she 
> thinks about this new regulation.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Airlines overreact to "alleged" bombing attempt

[dhamiltony2k5]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> 
> > As the story unfolds on the 23 year old kid my bet is he
> > has no real connection to any terrorist group especially
> > Al-Qaeda but is just a nut case.

Though evidently is the real deal. I've one who is a commercial airline pilot.  
They all caucus together immediately on things like this, and yes.  Is a call 
to meditation. The people who jumped on this guy were real heads-up.  

Though do have to worry about this doubting 'bhairitu' guy.  With a foreign 
handle like that trying to absolve these terrorist guys, have to wonder what 
his interest is.  Like, when was the last time he had his meditation checked?  
Or, was he just flying off the handle.  

Alex as moderator, what is this 'bhairritu' IP address and real name anyway?  
Have to wonder if hs he even a meditator.  He talks a good line, sometimes.  
How many times a day does he git down on his knees and 'pray'.  What's he doing 
when he 'prays' as 'meditation'.  Would love to see the peer review science on 
that prayer.  




> >  That is apparently what
> > his dad fears.  But the fascists will use any excuse to
> > put fear into the public to control them.  My bet is that 
> > airlines from other countries won't bother with such rules.
> 
> As it's unfolding, it's beginning to look as though
> it may have been the real thing, Al Qaeda and all.
> From Brian Ross's team at ABC News:
> 
> "The plot to blow up an American passenger jet over 
> Detroit was organized and launched by al Qaeda leaders 
> in Yemen who apparently sewed bomb materials into the 
> suspect's underwear before sending him on his mission, 
> federal authorities tell ABC News. 
> 
> "Investigators say the suspect had more than 80 grams of 
> PETN, a compound related to nitro-glycerin used by the 
> military. The so-called shoe bomber, Richard Reid, had 
> only about 50 grams in his failed attempt in 2001 to 
> blow up a U.S.-bound jet. Yesterday's bomb failed 
> because the detonator may have been too small or was 
> not in 'proper contact' with the explosive material, 
> investigators told ABC News. 
> 
> "Investigators say the suspect, Abdul Farouk Umar 
> Abdulmutallab, a 23-year-old Nigerian student whose 
> birthday was last Tuesday, has provided detailed 
> information about his recruitment and training for what 
> was supposed to be a Christmas Day suicide attack"
> 
> Read more:
> 
> http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/northwest-bomb-plot-planned-al-qaeda-yemen/story?id=9426085
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/yk653lz
> 
> Lots more details at the link, including that the packet
> of powder had been sewn to his underwear right next to his
> genitals, where it would be less likely to be discovered.
> Wonder how that will affect body-search procedures for
> men.
> 
> Apparently he burned his balls pretty badly when he tried
> to set the thing off.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Airlines overreact to "alleged" bombing attempt

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

> As the story unfolds on the 23 year old kid my bet is he
> has no real connection to any terrorist group especially
> Al-Qaeda but is just a nut case.  That is apparently what
> his dad fears.  But the fascists will use any excuse to
> put fear into the public to control them.  My bet is that 
> airlines from other countries won't bother with such rules.

As it's unfolding, it's beginning to look as though
it may have been the real thing, Al Qaeda and all.
>From Brian Ross's team at ABC News:

"The plot to blow up an American passenger jet over 
Detroit was organized and launched by al Qaeda leaders 
in Yemen who apparently sewed bomb materials into the 
suspect's underwear before sending him on his mission, 
federal authorities tell ABC News. 

"Investigators say the suspect had more than 80 grams of 
PETN, a compound related to nitro-glycerin used by the 
military. The so-called shoe bomber, Richard Reid, had 
only about 50 grams in his failed attempt in 2001 to 
blow up a U.S.-bound jet. Yesterday's bomb failed 
because the detonator may have been too small or was 
not in 'proper contact' with the explosive material, 
investigators told ABC News. 

"Investigators say the suspect, Abdul Farouk Umar 
Abdulmutallab, a 23-year-old Nigerian student whose 
birthday was last Tuesday, has provided detailed 
information about his recruitment and training for what 
was supposed to be a Christmas Day suicide attack"

Read more:

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/northwest-bomb-plot-planned-al-qaeda-yemen/story?id=9426085

http://tinyurl.com/yk653lz

Lots more details at the link, including that the packet
of powder had been sewn to his underwear right next to his
genitals, where it would be less likely to be discovered.
Wonder how that will affect body-search procedures for
men.

Apparently he burned his balls pretty badly when he tried
to set the thing off.

Re: [FairfieldLife] samaadhi and samaapatti?

[Vaj]

On Dec 26, 2009, at 4:24 PM, cardemaister wrote:

> Anyone know, what's the difference between
> samaadhi and samaapatti? 
> 
> The first seems to have been derived from the 
> root 'dhaa' with the prefixes 'sam' and 'aa'; 
> the second from the root 'pat', with the same prefixes.


The 4 samapattis are the 6 varieties of samprajnata samadhi in a Hindu yogic 
context.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Bhairitu calls Obama and his administration "fascists"

[Bhairitu]

ShempMcGurk wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
>
>
> [snip]
>
>
>
> But the fascists will use 
>   
>> any excuse to put fear into the public to control them.  
>> 
>
>
> [snip]
>
>
>
> I don't think that's quite fair of you, Bhairitu, to be calling Barack Obama 
> and his administration "fascists".

Reread my post.  I said the WH (that's for White House in case you don't 
know) jumped the gun.  Yes, hold their damn feet to the fire.  They 
asked us to.

In the context I mentioned it was more the government agencies I 
addressed as "fascists".  Now either they too are overreacting or some 
of them on power trips or real fascists are making them do it.

But government employees work for us and I don't pay my taxes to have 
them push me around.  However the only time I've flown since all this 
security hoopla I was treated politely and unobtrusively by TSA employees.

When I traveled in India back in the mid-90s security was tighter than 
in the US but people were still polite and unobtrusive.  It was not a 
big show like it has become here and that is all it is "a big show."

In about an hour I will be having dinner with my relatives and I will 
ask the member who is a flight attendant (for NWA no less) what she 
thinks about this new regulation.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Airlines overreact to "alleged" bombing attempt

[Bhairitu]

Duveyoung wrote:
> Already it's at that place where I don't want to take a computer to the 
> airport just because it would be so invasive to have all my stuff combed 
> through.  What next?  Maybe they'll start pulling folks aside who have said 
> "questionable" things on Facebook or here for instance.
I got a  Linux netbook for travel as Windoze machines take too long to 
boot.  There's barely anything on the netbook.  And now I've got an 
Android phone I don't really need a netbook unless absolutely 
necessary.  The Android has much more storage than the netbook (a very 
early one).

Good god the media is milking this story for all it's worth.  It's 
Saturday already and it was leading the local news at the half hour.  
Keep those sheeple afraid, very afraid.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Airlines overreact to "alleged" bombing attempt

[dhamiltony2k5]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  :
>


"We've launched a new profile on Yahoo!. The user you are searching for either 
does not exist, or has chosen to keep their profile private."
 
Learn more about the profile on Yahoo!
> That airport scanning policy is Big Brother's most unquestioned abusiveness.  
> A terrorist with a $20 crowbar can derail a train with hundreds aboard.  
> Almost everything is wide open for attack: water supply, bridges, dams, 
> nuclear waste sites, oil pipelines, etc.  There's about ONE MILLION folks of 
> Arabic ethnicity here in America and out of that much "mass," you'd've thunk 
> we be waste deep in "small actions with big consequences."  Where's the mad 
> bombers taking out a tier of a football stadium?  But, no, we have to 
> have a parade of negativity about a whole culture just because of a few of 
> their nutcases.
> 
> But, at least Big Brother isn't try to foist paranoia on the masses to the 
> extent that they'd have to do to set up "security measures" for the above 
> listed entities -- geeze, they would have us passing naked through 
> checkpoints every ten blocks.  
> 
> Already it's at that place where I don't want to take a computer to the 
> airport just because it would be so invasive to have all my stuff combed 
> through.  What next?  Maybe they'll start pulling folks aside who have said 
> "questionable" things on Facebook or here for instance.
> 
> Take care, Bhairitu, for you would most certainly be on a list if they ever 
> do start renditioning thinkers.
> 
> Edg
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> > If we had any REAL terrorist threat they would have long ago blown up 
> > shopping centers, etc.  There is not much of any difficulty in pulling 
> > that off.   Look at how fast the WH jumped on it not taking time in case 
> > it was apparent the kid was just a nut case.   Maybe we instead of seats 
> > on the airlines we should have cells that everybody sits in naked.  As 
> > for the kid's claim how many here know of people in their twenties that 
> > got gung ho over some cult or religious ideas but grew up later to come 
> > to their senses?  I know that was the case of the kid who lived near 
> > Sacramento, went to a Al-Qaeda training camp and decided it wasn't for 
> > him.  But when he came back got himself and his dad into a heap of 
> > trouble over nothing.
> > 
> > gullible fool wrote:
> > >  
> > > According to this article, the terrorist "claimed to have acted on 
> > > instructions from al-Qaida to detonate the explosive device over U.S. 
> > > soil":
> > >  
> > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091226/ap_on_go_ot/us_new_terror_threat;_ylt=AtqW5PiM5SNRdmfypPebc0Z2wPIE;_ylu=X3oDMTE1dm5odmdpBHBvcwMxBHNlYwN5bi1jaGFubmVsBHNsawNmYWlsZWRjaHJpc3Q
> > >  
> > > For a flight from Paris to Detroit, that would require detonating very 
> > > close to landing, since the plane would be coming in from the northeast 
> > > and would be spending more time over Canada than over the US, not 
> > > entering US airspace until within an hour, and possibly much less than an 
> > > hour, of landing. So, wth the new lame measures being taken, all the next 
> > > terrorist needs to do is to attempt to detonate over the ocean before the 
> > > last hour of flight, like the  "shoe bomber" did, or board a flight to a 
> > > US airport further south, such as LAX or Dallas-Fort Worth, and detonate 
> > > 61 minutes or more before landing.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' 
> > > only love." 
> > >  
> > > - Amma  
> > >
> > > --- On Sat, 12/26/09, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Bhairitu 
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Airlines overreact to "alleged" bombing attempt
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 4:28 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Better hope you don't have a diarrhea attack within an hour of landing 
> > > on your next plane flight.  The airlines goofy over this alleged bombing 
> > > attempt have implemented a rule that an hour before landing you can't 
> > > leave your seat.  Apparently some are even saying you can't even have 
> > > any carry-on items in your lap during that time.  Really shows you the 
> > > intelligence of mana

[FairfieldLife] Chistmas on FFL

[dhamiltony2k5]

"The Crossing".  This to me, like the old WWI story, is a christmas story of 
great modern inspiration.  Today we sit and watch, `The Crossing'.
Very much as part of Christmas.  

Go to church on x-mas eve.  

Sit and watch the 1950's version of 
`A Christmas Carol' on X-mas eve too.  

Meditate long on X-mas morn in hope.

Watch, "The Crossing" on the day after X-mas day as commemoration.

Jai Guru Dev,
-D in FF

 http://videodetective.com/TitleDetails.aspx?publishedid=00798352


Rent it or download it today.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Airlines overreact to "alleged" bombing attempt

[Duveyoung]

That airport scanning policy is Big Brother's most unquestioned abusiveness.  A 
terrorist with a $20 crowbar can derail a train with hundreds aboard.  Almost 
everything is wide open for attack: water supply, bridges, dams, nuclear waste 
sites, oil pipelines, etc.  There's about ONE MILLION folks of Arabic ethnicity 
here in America and out of that much "mass," you'd've thunk we be waste deep in 
"small actions with big consequences."  Where's the mad bombers taking out a 
tier of a football stadium?  But, no, we have to have a parade of 
negativity about a whole culture just because of a few of their nutcases.

But, at least Big Brother isn't try to foist paranoia on the masses to the 
extent that they'd have to do to set up "security measures" for the above 
listed entities -- geeze, they would have us passing naked through checkpoints 
every ten blocks.  

Already it's at that place where I don't want to take a computer to the airport 
just because it would be so invasive to have all my stuff combed through.  What 
next?  Maybe they'll start pulling folks aside who have said "questionable" 
things on Facebook or here for instance.

Take care, Bhairitu, for you would most certainly be on a list if they ever do 
start renditioning thinkers.

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> If we had any REAL terrorist threat they would have long ago blown up 
> shopping centers, etc.  There is not much of any difficulty in pulling 
> that off.   Look at how fast the WH jumped on it not taking time in case 
> it was apparent the kid was just a nut case.   Maybe we instead of seats 
> on the airlines we should have cells that everybody sits in naked.  As 
> for the kid's claim how many here know of people in their twenties that 
> got gung ho over some cult or religious ideas but grew up later to come 
> to their senses?  I know that was the case of the kid who lived near 
> Sacramento, went to a Al-Qaeda training camp and decided it wasn't for 
> him.  But when he came back got himself and his dad into a heap of 
> trouble over nothing.
> 
> gullible fool wrote:
> >  
> > According to this article, the terrorist "claimed to have acted on 
> > instructions from al-Qaida to detonate the explosive device over U.S. soil":
> >  
> > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091226/ap_on_go_ot/us_new_terror_threat;_ylt=AtqW5PiM5SNRdmfypPebc0Z2wPIE;_ylu=X3oDMTE1dm5odmdpBHBvcwMxBHNlYwN5bi1jaGFubmVsBHNsawNmYWlsZWRjaHJpc3Q
> >  
> > For a flight from Paris to Detroit, that would require detonating very 
> > close to landing, since the plane would be coming in from the northeast and 
> > would be spending more time over Canada than over the US, not entering US 
> > airspace until within an hour, and possibly much less than an hour, of 
> > landing. So, wth the new lame measures being taken, all the next terrorist 
> > needs to do is to attempt to detonate over the ocean before the last hour 
> > of flight, like the  "shoe bomber" did, or board a flight to a US airport 
> > further south, such as LAX or Dallas-Fort Worth, and detonate 61 minutes or 
> > more before landing.
> >
> >
> > "Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' 
> > only love." 
> >  
> > - Amma  
> >
> > --- On Sat, 12/26/09, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Bhairitu 
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Airlines overreact to "alleged" bombing attempt
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 4:28 PM
> >
> >
> > Better hope you don't have a diarrhea attack within an hour of landing 
> > on your next plane flight.  The airlines goofy over this alleged bombing 
> > attempt have implemented a rule that an hour before landing you can't 
> > leave your seat.  Apparently some are even saying you can't even have 
> > any carry-on items in your lap during that time.  Really shows you the 
> > intelligence of management of the airlines which is why they are doing 
> > so poorly.  They kowtow to the security theater people who dream up this 
> > kind of stuff.
> >
> > As the story unfolds on the 23 year old kid my bet is he has no real 
> > connection to any terrorist group especially Al-Qaeda but is just a nut 
> > case.  That is apparently what his dad fears.  But the fascists will use 
> > any excuse to put fear into the public to control them.  My bet is that 
> > airlines from other countries won't bother with such rules.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/y8alwmc
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > To subscribe, send a message to:
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Bhairitu calls Obama and his administration "fascists"

[ShempMcGurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:



[snip]



But the fascists will use 
> any excuse to put fear into the public to control them.  


[snip]



I don't think that's quite fair of you, Bhairitu, to be calling Barack Obama 
and his administration "fascists".

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sally Albright Theory Of Politics (was: The Left's Fatal Abstraction)

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:

> > Yup. I must admit, though, I don't know what the hell
> > Hamsher is doing with her Grover Norquist stunt. I know
> > what her stated rationale is, but I'm not at all sure it
> > makes any sense. Much as I'd like to see Rahm have to
> > pack his bags, this effort isn't going anywhere. All
> > Hamsher's going to do is destroy her own credibility.
> 
> Jane is swinging for the fence and she's taking a lot of
> flack for it. I applaud her courage. Even though it's
> Grover  with whom she wrote a letter, she's doing
> what lefties such as Thom Hartmann have recommended,
> finding common ground with independents and the tea party.

If this is what Hartmann recommended, I don't support
it. What I support is finding common ground with the 
grassroots, the ordinary folks who are suffering from
current conditions. That ain't Grover Norquist.

As far as courage is concerned, it takes courage to
step in front of a speeding ten-ton truck, but is it
smart?

> In this case she shines a much needed light on Rahm's
> collusion with Fannie and Freddie, especially since this
> body is currently without oversight and Congress is set
> to give them more TARP money. Gee, I wonder how that
> happened? Behind the scenes Rahm can work his magic to
> get sweetheart deals for Fannie and Freddie but he can't
> seem to get us a public option? Go figure.

He didn't want one, he just wanted to get a big
impressive bill passed.

He may or may not be corrupt, but even if he is, I
think this is a distraction that is only going to have
negative effects. The optics are terrible--look at what
folks are saying about the fringe left helping the
Republican Party. That is *not* the goal!

Plus which, in the immediate wake of the Senate bill
passing, it really does look as if it's motivated by
spite rather than political savvy.

> I doubt Jane's appeal to Eric Holder is going anywhere
> just as our efforts to get Alberto Gonzalez to 
> investigate Bush never went anywhere.

Exactly.

> Even so, she put the corporate interests holding our
> country hostage on notice. They prefer to pit the left
> against the right and it makes them nervous when
> grassroots people come together and demand accountability.

But this isn't grassroots people coming together!
This is grassroots blogger coming together with
ultra-elitist right-winger. Anything that makes
Grover Norquist smile is by definition a Bad Thing.

Coming together with the grassroots is what she *should*
be working on, that and putting pressure on the
reconciliation effort to keep the good stuff from being
dropped from the House bill. That's going to require a
great deal of energy, if it can even be managed at all.

> It's a pity the lefties asking for Jane's head don't
> get it.

Well, I don't get it. I'm not asking for her head, I
just don't think it's making any sense.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sally Albright Theory Of Politics (was: The Left's Fatal Abstraction)

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Here's a comment in the same vein by former Republican
> > > John Cole that pretty much supports what you've said:  
> > > 
> > > "...the left wing of the party want to do whatever they
> > > can to destroy Obama because he hasn't done everything
> > > they want in 11 months. - - And you can not convince me
> > > that a lot of this isn't just the same old PUMA bullshit. 
> > > 
> > > "BTW- has Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild vented about
> > > the public option yet?"
> > > 
> > > http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=31694
> > 
> > do.rk's standard of proof is so low that he thinks that
> > Cole's ad hominem attack on lefties is actually an
> > argument that supports the notion they do so to destroy
> > Obama.
> 
> Cole's "PUMA" nonsense is especially illuminating as
> to how far out to lunch he is. Louise Slaughter--whose
> statement in opposition to the Senate bill I just
> posted--was a Hillary supporter, but was calling on
> her to close her primary campaign in early May.
> 
> That Cole used to be a Republican is often cited by
> the feeble-minded as a reason to accord him *extra*
> credibility. I find that absolutely hilarious.
> 
> Neither Barry nor the do.rk have a clue. Barry just
> blathers on heedlessly, not caring whether he makes
> a fool of himself as long as he can put somebody
> down; the do.rk really REALLY doesn't want to make a
> fool of himself, so he copies and pastes like mad
> without ever giving any indication he understands
> what's involved by writing his own posts. And then
> the two of them sit in their little echo chamber
> doing a circle jerk and thinking they're showing how
> politically astute they are. It is to laugh.
> 
> > No and no and no. Jane Hamsher and others are trying to
> > save Obama's ass. There's no reason in the world the
> > Senate could not have brought a decent bill into
> > conference if only they had had guts to force it into 
> > reconciliation. If the Democrats stupidly hang this pig
> > of a bill around Obama's neck, they all own it and
> > they'll suffer the consequences in 2010.
> 
> Yup. I must admit, though, I don't know what the hell
> Hamsher is doing with her Grover Norquist stunt. I know
> what her stated rationale is, but I'm not at all sure it
> makes any sense. Much as I'd like to see Rahm have to
> pack his bags, this effort isn't going anywhere. All
> Hamsher's going to do is destroy her own credibility.
>

Jane is swinging for the fence and she's taking a lot of flack for it. I 
applaud her courage. Even though it's Grover  with whom she wrote a 
letter, she's doing what lefties such as Thom Hartmann have recommended, 
finding common ground with independents and the tea party. In this case she 
shines a much needed light on Rahm's collusion with Fannie and Freddie, 
especially since this body is currently without oversight and Congress is set 
to give them more TARP money. Gee, I wonder how that happened? Behind the 
scenes Rahm can work his magic to get sweetheart deals for Fannie and Freddie 
but he can't seem to get us a public option? Go figure. I doubt Jane's appeal 
to Eric Holder is going anywhere just as our efforts to get Alberto Gonzalez to 
investigate Bush never went anywhere. Even so, she put the corporate interests 
holding our country hostage on notice. They prefer to pit the left against the 
right and it makes them nervous when grassroots people come together and demand 
accountability. It's a pity the lefties asking for Jane's head don't get it.

[FairfieldLife] Anyone going to Iowa City?

[Rick Archer]

>From Sharalyn:
I have injured, possibly broken, my ankle and need to go to the VA in 
Iowa City, today, Sunday, or even Monday. Anyone going?

Thanks,
Sharalyn
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Airlines overreact to "alleged" bombing attempt

[Bhairitu]

If we had any REAL terrorist threat they would have long ago blown up 
shopping centers, etc.  There is not much of any difficulty in pulling 
that off.   Look at how fast the WH jumped on it not taking time in case 
it was apparent the kid was just a nut case.   Maybe we instead of seats 
on the airlines we should have cells that everybody sits in naked.  As 
for the kid's claim how many here know of people in their twenties that 
got gung ho over some cult or religious ideas but grew up later to come 
to their senses?  I know that was the case of the kid who lived near 
Sacramento, went to a Al-Qaeda training camp and decided it wasn't for 
him.  But when he came back got himself and his dad into a heap of 
trouble over nothing.

gullible fool wrote:
>  
> According to this article, the terrorist "claimed to have acted on 
> instructions from al-Qaida to detonate the explosive device over U.S. soil":
>  
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091226/ap_on_go_ot/us_new_terror_threat;_ylt=AtqW5PiM5SNRdmfypPebc0Z2wPIE;_ylu=X3oDMTE1dm5odmdpBHBvcwMxBHNlYwN5bi1jaGFubmVsBHNsawNmYWlsZWRjaHJpc3Q
>  
> For a flight from Paris to Detroit, that would require detonating very close 
> to landing, since the plane would be coming in from the northeast and would 
> be spending more time over Canada than over the US, not entering US airspace 
> until within an hour, and possibly much less than an hour, of landing. So, 
> wth the new lame measures being taken, all the next terrorist needs to do is 
> to attempt to detonate over the ocean before the last hour of flight, like 
> the  "shoe bomber" did, or board a flight to a US airport further south, such 
> as LAX or Dallas-Fort Worth, and detonate 61 minutes or more before landing.  
>   
>
>
> "Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
> love." 
>  
> - Amma  
>
> --- On Sat, 12/26/09, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
>
> From: Bhairitu 
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Airlines overreact to "alleged" bombing attempt
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 4:28 PM
>
>
> Better hope you don't have a diarrhea attack within an hour of landing 
> on your next plane flight.  The airlines goofy over this alleged bombing 
> attempt have implemented a rule that an hour before landing you can't 
> leave your seat.  Apparently some are even saying you can't even have 
> any carry-on items in your lap during that time.  Really shows you the 
> intelligence of management of the airlines which is why they are doing 
> so poorly.  They kowtow to the security theater people who dream up this 
> kind of stuff.
>
> As the story unfolds on the 23 year old kid my bet is he has no real 
> connection to any terrorist group especially Al-Qaeda but is just a nut 
> case.  That is apparently what his dad fears.  But the fascists will use 
> any excuse to put fear into the public to control them.  My bet is that 
> airlines from other countries won't bother with such rules.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y8alwmc
>
>
>
> 
>
> To subscribe, send a message to:
> fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
>
> Or go to: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
> and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>   

Re: [FairfieldLife] Airlines overreact to "alleged" bombing attempt

[gullible fool]

 
According to this article, the terrorist "claimed to have acted on instructions 
from al-Qaida to detonate the explosive device over U.S. soil":
 
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091226/ap_on_go_ot/us_new_terror_threat;_ylt=AtqW5PiM5SNRdmfypPebc0Z2wPIE;_ylu=X3oDMTE1dm5odmdpBHBvcwMxBHNlYwN5bi1jaGFubmVsBHNsawNmYWlsZWRjaHJpc3Q
 
For a flight from Paris to Detroit, that would require detonating very close to 
landing, since the plane would be coming in from the northeast and would be 
spending more time over Canada than over the US, not entering US airspace until 
within an hour, and possibly much less than an hour, of landing. So, wth the 
new lame measures being taken, all the next terrorist needs to do is to attempt 
to detonate over the ocean before the last hour of flight, like the  "shoe 
bomber" did, or board a flight to a US airport further south, such as LAX or 
Dallas-Fort Worth, and detonate 61 minutes or more before landing.


"Love will swallow you, eat you up completely, until there is no `you,' only 
love." 
 
- Amma  

--- On Sat, 12/26/09, Bhairitu  wrote:


From: Bhairitu 
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Airlines overreact to "alleged" bombing attempt
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 4:28 PM


Better hope you don't have a diarrhea attack within an hour of landing 
on your next plane flight.  The airlines goofy over this alleged bombing 
attempt have implemented a rule that an hour before landing you can't 
leave your seat.  Apparently some are even saying you can't even have 
any carry-on items in your lap during that time.  Really shows you the 
intelligence of management of the airlines which is why they are doing 
so poorly.  They kowtow to the security theater people who dream up this 
kind of stuff.

As the story unfolds on the 23 year old kid my bet is he has no real 
connection to any terrorist group especially Al-Qaeda but is just a nut 
case.  That is apparently what his dad fears.  But the fascists will use 
any excuse to put fear into the public to control them.  My bet is that 
airlines from other countries won't bother with such rules.

http://tinyurl.com/y8alwmc





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[FairfieldLife] samaadhi and samaapatti?

[cardemaister]

Anyone know, what's the difference between
samaadhi and samaapatti? 

The first seems to have been derived from the 
root 'dhaa' with the prefixes 'sam' and 'aa'; 
the second from the root 'pat', with the same prefixes.

[FairfieldLife] Airlines overreact to "alleged" bombing attempt

[Bhairitu]

Better hope you don't have a diarrhea attack within an hour of landing 
on your next plane flight.  The airlines goofy over this alleged bombing 
attempt have implemented a rule that an hour before landing you can't 
leave your seat.  Apparently some are even saying you can't even have 
any carry-on items in your lap during that time.  Really shows you the 
intelligence of management of the airlines which is why they are doing 
so poorly.  They kowtow to the security theater people who dream up this 
kind of stuff.

As the story unfolds on the 23 year old kid my bet is he has no real 
connection to any terrorist group especially Al-Qaeda but is just a nut 
case.  That is apparently what his dad fears.  But the fascists will use 
any excuse to put fear into the public to control them.  My bet is that 
airlines from other countries won't bother with such rules.

http://tinyurl.com/y8alwmc

[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents "Contact & Disclosure: The Final Sequenc

[wayback71]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> I didn't bother to watch the video because I have
> zero interest in UFOs. But I'll reply because I
> love it when wayback71 posts because on the rare
> ccasions when she does she always presents the 
> thing that is missing from FFL the most -- balance.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  wrote:
> >
> > Bottom line for me is that I would not be at all surprised 
> > to find aliens have been flying about earth for some time 
> > now, and that they can help us when we are ready for it.  
> 
> I would not be surprised either, statistically. As
> for your last phrase, however, I think a simple 
> step-back-and-look-at-it-critically read of FFL
> should reveal whether or not we "are ready for it."
> If *you* were an alien, would you bother to help a
> species that turns a supposedly spiritual discussion
> group into nothing more than an excuse to argue and
> provoke ego-battles? To "help" planet Earth at this 
> point would be to help overweight egos to become
> more overweight. 

Thanks for the above.  I have been thinking about just how the people on the 
planet would react if there were some irrefutable alien contact.  I like to 
think most of us would be curious, if also frightened - and also not  too 
surprised. But we seem to screw up so many things, I guess They had better wait 
a while!!
> 
> > Good point.  What he has going for him is that everyone is 
> > intrigued by the idea of aliens and alien contact.  
> 
> Not everyone. :-) I consider it irrelevant to my 
> life in all respects. Furthermore, I consider the
> ongoing fascination with "aliens" and "space
> brothers" and wanting them to come and "help" us
> to be in the exact same ballpark as those who 
> spend their lives waiting for Santa Claus or Daddy
> or some guru or messiah or avatar to come along and
> "help" them, spiritually or physically. It's a form 
> of "displaced responsibility" that I tend to call 
> Beam Me Up Scotty Syndrome.
> 
> "Scotty," should one exist and be as wise and all-
> knowing as they assume, just wouldn't help anyone
> who is sitting around on their ass waiting for
> someone ELSE to solve the world's problems for him.
> 
> > My brother and his family and several friends were vacationing 
> > in Costa Rico about 17 years ago.  They were sitting in a 
> > restaurant with their children and many other patrons.  The 
> > place had a long wall of large open windows that looked out 
> > over a cliff and deep valley below. The waether was warm so 
> > it was basically open air dining. During dinner everyone 
> > suddenly noticed a large round object  hovering just beyond 
> > the wall of open windows.  It was a few hundred feet away, 
> > and there was no noise at all, no engine sound. It looked 
> > like the classic space ship.  It hovered for a good 5  
> > minutes and then flew off at top speed.  Everyone saw it 
> > and stopped eating while it was there.  They have no doubt 
> > that they all saw this - and if it was not alien, it was some 
> > advanced technology that we still have no public knowledge of.
> 
> I comment on your brother's experience not to dump
> on it or "explain it away" or point to it and say 
> "See...the space brothers *do* exist you idiots...
> I am right and you are all WRONG!" like Nabby might 
> do. I'll just make two points.
> 
> The first is that I have met many people who saw
> *something* in the sky and just assumed (because 
> that's how Earthlings think) that it was some kind
> of *technology* that they saw. When pressed, they
> all admitted that what they saw could just as easily
> have been some form of light or "subtle body exper-
> ience." If, for example, one encountered a being
> without a physical body and with only a subtle body,
> how would most Earthlings interpret that? Well, they
> would consider it a "spaceship" because they have
> no intellectual framework for understanding subtle
> bodies. 
> 
> The second, however, is to pass along to your brother
> through you how LUCKY he is to have had an experience
> like this. And by "like this" I mean a subjective
> experience that he can *never prove the truth of*,
> but that he is willing to talk about *as* an exper-
> ience. That in my opinion is a fascinating opportunity,
> and one that can shift the perceiver to a new level of
> perception and self-acceptance.
> 
> Take levitation. I've seen it...hundreds of times. I
> have never claimed to know *what* exactly it was that
> I saw hundreds of times, only that I saw it. It really
> doesn't matter to me at all whether what I saw was
> "real levitation" and would have been captured by video
> cameras or whether it was some projected consciousness
> or mass hallucination event. Doesn't matter a bit. ALL
> that matters is that I'm willing to stand up and say,
> "This was my subjective experience. I do not under-
> stand it and make no claims as to what it 'really was,'
> but I will not *deny* having e

[FairfieldLife] Re: I hope this doesn't screw up the $50Million I'm Getting

[ShempMcGurk]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "It's just a ride" 
 wrote:
>
> Wouldn't you know it, I've been involved in negotiations to get the
> banker's fortune out of Nigeria and now this.
> 
> 
> Terror suspect is son of Nigerian banker, family says
> 
> 
> http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/12/26/airline.attack/index.html
>


...you and Chelsea Clinton's future father-in-law (who used to be the U.S. 
Representative for the district MIU is in).

[FairfieldLife] I hope this doesn't screw up the $50Million I'm Getting

[It's just a ride]

Wouldn't you know it, I've been involved in negotiations to get the
banker's fortune out of Nigeria and now this.


Terror suspect is son of Nigerian banker, family says


http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/12/26/airline.attack/index.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] A Christmas Story

[It's just a ride]

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Rick Archer  wrote:

Bummer.  Maharishi should have let Nature take its course.  He should have
allowed the Warsaw Pact to conquer both West Germany and the ungrateful
French.  Deutchland and France ueter alles.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sally Albright Theory Of Politics (was: The Left's Fatal Abstraction)

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > 
> > Here's a comment in the same vein by former Republican
> > John Cole that pretty much supports what you've said:  
> > 
> > "...the left wing of the party want to do whatever they
> > can to destroy Obama because he hasn't done everything
> > they want in 11 months. - - And you can not convince me
> > that a lot of this isn't just the same old PUMA bullshit. 
> > 
> > "BTW- has Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild vented about
> > the public option yet?"
> > 
> > http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=31694
> 
> do.rk's standard of proof is so low that he thinks that
> Cole's ad hominem attack on lefties is actually an
> argument that supports the notion they do so to destroy
> Obama.

Cole's "PUMA" nonsense is especially illuminating as
to how far out to lunch he is. Louise Slaughter--whose
statement in opposition to the Senate bill I just
posted--was a Hillary supporter, but was calling on
her to close her primary campaign in early May.

That Cole used to be a Republican is often cited by
the feeble-minded as a reason to accord him *extra*
credibility. I find that absolutely hilarious.

Neither Barry nor the do.rk have a clue. Barry just
blathers on heedlessly, not caring whether he makes
a fool of himself as long as he can put somebody
down; the do.rk really REALLY doesn't want to make a
fool of himself, so he copies and pastes like mad
without ever giving any indication he understands
what's involved by writing his own posts. And then
the two of them sit in their little echo chamber
doing a circle jerk and thinking they're showing how
politically astute they are. It is to laugh.

> No and no and no. Jane Hamsher and others are trying to
> save Obama's ass. There's no reason in the world the
> Senate could not have brought a decent bill into
> conference if only they had had guts to force it into 
> reconciliation. If the Democrats stupidly hang this pig
> of a bill around Obama's neck, they all own it and
> they'll suffer the consequences in 2010.

Yup. I must admit, though, I don't know what the hell
Hamsher is doing with her Grover Norquist stunt. I know
what her stated rationale is, but I'm not at all sure it
makes any sense. Much as I'd like to see Rahm have to
pack his bags, this effort isn't going anywhere. All
Hamsher's going to do is destroy her own credibility.

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Christmas Story

[ShempMcGurk]

Quite an appropriate story to read along with the link to the "What is 
Scientology" youtube video in which the evil Xenon and phetons are discussed..

Both stories are on the same level on the nutsicoo spectrum.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> A Christmas Story
> 
> 
> Germany's Colonel Gunter Chasse, a longtime Meditator, recently related a
> wonderful Christmas memory. He explained what led  to the planned invasion
> of West Germany by the Warsaw Pact armies in December 1978. Colonel Chasse
> illustrated the political and military build-up with maps,  and showed
> documents confirming the decision of the Warsaw Pact armies to invade West
> Germany at Christmas. 
> 
> Colonel Chasse then showed how Maharishi,  being aware of the pending
> conflict,  chose the island of Fehmarn - in the Baltic Sea between East and
> West Germany where the Warsaw Pact fleet would attempt to pass out to the
> Atlantic - as the strategic location of a course for 1, 500 Meditators with
> the advanced TM-Sidhis Program, who traveled and gathered on the island of
> Fehmarn at that time and meditated together in that one location,  creating
> an invisible,  but invincible armour of protection for the entire area.
> During the time of the course,  the surrounding areas had the biggest
> snowstorms in decades; the storms spread from Fehmarn concentrically to East
> and West Germany. The highways and railways were all blocked,  and the
> Baltic Sea froze. As a result,  the army and navy could not attack. 
> 
> But both the East and West German armies were put to positive use - in an
> atmosphere of great cordiality - in bringing food and medical supplies to a
> huge number of villages and farms stranded by the snowstorms.  Colonel
> Chasse related that this was the turning point of the Cold War: from then on
> relations between East and West Germany began to melt. It was a powerful
> example of Maharishi's programs of 'Invincible Defence' preventing a
> catastrophic war at the last possible moment,  possibly averting the danger
> of World War III. What started out as an invasion,  resulted in the spirit
> of giving.
> HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
> MAY 2010 BE YOUR BEST YEAR YET!
> 
> Garry, Helen, and the
> Maharishi Invincibility Centre - Victoria
> Teaching the Transcendental Meditation Program
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who have tattoos in Japanese or Chinese or Sanskrit

[Bhairitu]

Alex Stanley wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>   
>> :-)
>>   [http://i.imgur.com/NXX2z.jpg]
>> 
>
> Uh-oh...
>
> http://alex.natel.net/misc/aum_tattoo.jpg

A friend who has an Om tattoo on his leg would get pulled out of line 
for a special screening at the airport.   Another friend with an Om 
painted on his airplane tail got investigated by the FBI after 9-11.  
Dummies don't know the difference between Arabic and Devanagri.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For those who have tattoos in Japanese or Chinese or Sanskrit

[It's just a ride]

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Alex Stanley
 wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>>
>> :-)
>>   [http://i.imgur.com/NXX2z.jpg]
>
> Uh-oh...
>
> http://alex.natel.net/misc/aum_tattoo.jpg
>
>

I am told by my Chinese lady barber that the I love cock tattoo is not
so far fetched.  She says she and her friends/relatives have to prop
themselves up else they'll fall on the ground laughing when they see
many of these oriental writing tattoos.  She gave me a rendition of
some of the funny ones she remembered and it was a hoot.

[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents "Contact & Disclosure: The Final Sequenc

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:
> 
> > I watched Greer's video. The thing that I found fascinating
> > about it was his claim that he can "vector" them in, make
> > them arrive at a certain location, communicate with them
> > with his consciousness and train people to do this. I'd like
> > to see him do this in Fairfield. We could sell tickets as a
> > fund raiser like we did for the Beach Boys' concert this
> > summer. David Lynch should sign on for it. Seriously, I'd
> > really like to see a demonstration of his vectoring abilities.
> 
> Sheesh, that's all the TMO needs!
> 

Agreed. My comment was partly snark and partly wish. Mostly, I'm just curious 
exactly what his technique is for "vectoring." 

> I have no idea what it is Greer is doing, but I seriously
> doubt it's what he *thinks* he's doing. This is where
> I suspect the fantasies kick in.
> 

Right. When someone starts talking about getting information from "lucid 
dreaming" you know the fantasies have kicked in.
 
> > I'm easily swayed by conspiracy theories so I'm inclined
> > to believe his claims about the existence of Unacknowledged
> > Special Access Programs, covert activities of a "shadow
> > government" so secret that even Bill Clinton and his CIA
> > guys were forbidden access to information about UFO's.
> > Apparently Greer met with the Clintons and his CIA director
> > about getting access to the USAP but they thought it was too
> > dangerous to force disclosure. Perhaps Greer stretches
> > credulity at this point but I'm still willing to give him
> > the benefit of the doubt.
> 
> My credulity doesn't stretch that far. I doubt he "met
> with the Clintons." Representatives, at best. I don't
> believe the president and the CIA were "forbidden access"
> to anything. I think that's his interpretation of whatever
> it was they *did* say. Just as a common-sense matter,
> if it were true, they wouldn't have told *him* that, for
> pete's sake.
> 

Did you see the part where he says Hillary shut down a conversation about 
disclosure saying it was "too dangerous?" I thought here we go again, blame 
Hillary. Greer's vibe is positively cultish. He says Obama's name reverently. I 
suspect he's a kool aid drinker. He's devoted his entire life to UFO's and 
bodybuilding, an interesting combination. I'd say he pretty fanatical 
character, so it's easy to dismiss him. Call me naive, but, except for 
politicians, I like to take people at their word. I don't think Greer knowingly 
lies, but perhaps his fantasies and wishful thinking cause him to stretch the 
truth.  

> If anybody ever actually said it was "too dangerous,"
> what they meant was, "We don't know what the f*ck is
> going on here, and it would be dangerous for us to
> admit that we weren't on top of everything."
> 

True. No president wants to admit they were caught with their pants down, Bill 
Clinton, cases in point. (Sorry, cheap shot.)

> I'm suspicious of anybody who isn't utterly
> confounded by the evidence, such as it is. The more
> you know, the less comprehensible it becomes.
> 
> > Greer implies he has been in contact with the Obama
> > administration about disclosing UFO secrets.
> 
> "In contact with" can mean anything. It could mean he
> sent them a letter and got a form response back.
> 
> I really didn't find Greer convincing (although, as I said,
> I missed about the middle third of his presentation--maybe
> I'll go back and watch again and try to stay awake through
> the whole thing.)
> 

Good luck with that. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPw6QBSggls

>  Interestingly, at St. Gabes on Christmas Eve Father Tom, in the context of a 
> sermon he gave about religious diversity said that the Vatican recently 
> announced it had an interest in a scientific and religious dialogue about the 
> implications of extraterrestrial life. So I Googled the topic and found an 
> article that seems to support Greer's claim that Obama administration and the 
> UN desire to disclose information about UFO's but military agencies such as 
> the British Ministry of Defence (MOD) want to shut it down.
> > 
> > "In an apparent set back for secret official efforts to announce the 
> > existence of extraterrestrial life, the British Ministry of Defence (MOD) 
> > has just closed its UFO desk. After 50 years of having an official 
> > reporting mechanism in place for public sightings of UFOs, a spokesman for 
> > the Ministry of Defence stated that the funds could be better used for the 
> > Afghanistan war. What is the impact of the British MOD decision to close 
> > its UFO desk? Why was such an announcement made now given that only a 
> > trivial amount of public funds (44,000 pounds/US$73,000 a year) will be 
> > saved on an issue that generates strong public passion? Is this a simple 
> > administrative decision on an issue that genuinely involves no national 
> > security factor; or a cynical move b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Time is Come

[dhamiltony2k5]

> 
> 
> 
> >
> > "Weather patterns will keep changing toward an intensified water cycle with 
> > stronger floods and droughts. Most regions now subject to droughts will 
> > probably get drier (because of warmth as well as less precipitation), and 
> > most wet regions will get wetter. Extreme weather events will become more 
> > frequent and worse. In particular, storms with more intense rainfall are 
> > liable to bring worse floods. Mountain glaciers and winter snowpack will 
> > shrink, jeopardizing many water supply systems. Each of these things has 
> > already begun to happen in some regions.(23)" 
> > 
> > http://www.aip.org/history/climate/impacts.htm#impacts
> > 
> >
> 
>  "Adopt Plain Living
> and High Thinking Now"
> 
> "How can you meet the world crisis that is coming?
> The best way is to adopt plain living and high thinking.  Unless you make 
> drastic changes in your living habits immediately, you will be rudely 
> surprised; conditions will change in a way you cannot imagine now.
> …
> Keep life simple and enjoy what God has provided, without seeking false and 
> expensive pleasures.  There is much in God's hidden nature to fascinate the 
> mind of man.  Use your free time to read worthwhile books, meditate, and 
> enjoy an uncomplicated life.
> 
> Isn't this better –simple living, fewer worries, and the time to seek God 
> -than to have a huge house, many cars, and time payments and a mortgage you 
> cannot meet?
> 
> …
> Most of all I emphasize that you should get busy seeking God through 
> meditation.
> I do not speak to you through emotion, but through the vibration of my own 
> experience.  God can be contacted at any moment, any day!  It is possible to 
> feel the inspiration of His presence anytime, in any place.  So that whenever 
> you think of Him, His inspiration will be there.  In every lovely experience 
> you will behold God.
> 
> Just below the shadows of this life is His wondrous Light.  The universe is a 
> vast temple of His presence.  When you meditate, you will find doors opening 
> to Him everywhere.  When you have communion with Him, not all the ravages of 
> the world can take away that Joy and Peace."
> 
> -Paramahansa Yogananda
>


"Self-effort and Grace are interdependent.
Without one, the other is impossible."
-Amma
 
> > >
> > > Tonight: Rain. Low around 36. East wind around 15 mph, with gusts as high 
> > > as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts between 
> > > a quarter and half of an inch possible. 
> > > 
> > > Thursday: Rain. High near 40. East wind between 10 and 15 mph, with gusts 
> > > as high as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New rainfall amounts 
> > > between a half and three quarters of an inch possible. 
> > > 
> > > Thursday Night: Rain before midnight, then occasional rain, snow, and 
> > > sleet. The rain could be heavy at times. Some thunder is also possible. 
> > > Low around 30. Northeast wind around 15 mph becoming south. Winds could 
> > > gust as high as 20 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow and 
> > > sleet accumulation of less than a half inch possible. 
> > > 
> > > Christmas Day: Snow. High near 30. Breezy. Chance of precipitation is 
> > > 80%. New snow accumulation of around 1 inch. 
> > > 
> > > Friday Night: A 50 percent chance of snow. Cloudy, with a low around 17. 
> > > 
> > > Saturday: A 40 percent chance of snow. Cloudy, with a high near 26. 
> > > 
> > > Saturday Night: A 30 percent chance of snow. Cloudy, with a low around 
> > > 18. 
> > > 
> > > Sunday: A slight chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 24.
> > >
> > Christmas Day: Rain before 9am, then occasional snow. Temperature falling 
> > to around 16 by 3pm. East wind around 15 mph becoming south. Winds could 
> > gust as high as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow 
> > accumulation of less than 1 inch possible. 
> > 
> > Tonight: Snow. Temperature rising to around 25 by 9pm. South wind around 15 
> > mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow 
> > accumulation of around 1 inch. 
> > 
> > Saturday: Snow likely. Cloudy, with a high near 23. North wind between 10 
> > and 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of around 
> > 1 inch. 
> > 
> > Saturday Night: A 50 percent chance of snow. Cloudy, with a low around 15. 
> > New snow accumulation of less than 1 inch possible. 
> > 
> > Sunday: A 20 percent chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 23. 
> > 
> > Sunday Night: Scattered flurries. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 14.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sally Albright Theory Of Politics (was: The Left's Fatal Abstraction)

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > Great essay, John. Thanks for posting it.
> > 
> > That's it exactly...what I and others have been
> > feeling in so many of the "Kill The Bill" rants.
> > Not only are these people focusing on an abstrac-
> > tion of a perfect tree to the point of not being
> > able to remember what a forest is, a lot of them
> > seem to be doing it out of a sense of spite and
> > childish willfulness.
> > 
> > It's as if their theory of how politics works is
> > that if you just demand what you want long enough,
> > people will give it to you. The mindest reminds
> > me in a less charming way of Sally in "When Harry
> > Met Sally," whose restaurant-ordering tendencies
> > always meant more work for the chefs and the 
> > servers. The dressing couldn't be on the salad;
> > it had to be "on the side." Her justification for
> > this? "I just want it the way I want it."
> > 
> > Onscreen, it gets a laugh. When acted out by people
> > who call themselves activists but who would prefer
> > no health care reform to not having it the way they
> > want it, not so much.
> 
> Here's a comment in the same vein by former Republican
> John Cole that pretty much supports what you've said:  
> 
> "...the left wing of the party want to do whatever they
> can to destroy Obama because he hasn't done everything
> they want in 11 months. - - And you can not convince me
> that a lot of this isn't just the same old PUMA bullshit.

LOL!! Cole is such a nitwit.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sally Albright Theory Of Politics (was: The Left's Fatal Abstraction)

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> 
> Here's a comment in the same vein by former Republican John Cole that pretty 
> much supports what you've said:  
> 
> "...the left wing of the party want to do whatever they can to destroy Obama 
> because he hasn't done everything they want in 11 months. - - And you can not 
> convince me that a lot of this isn't just the same old PUMA bullshit. 
> 
> "BTW- has Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild vented about the public option 
> yet?"
> 
> http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=31694

do.rk's standard of proof is so low that he thinks that Cole's ad hominem 
attack on lefties is actually an argument that supports the notion they do so 
to destroy Obama. No and no and no. Jane Hamsher and others are trying to save 
Obama's ass. There's no reason in the world the Senate could not have brought a 
decent bill into conference if only they had had guts to force it into 
reconciliation. If the Democrats stupidly hang this pig of a bill around 
Obama's neck, they all own it and they'll suffer the consequences in 2010.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Now, just what is Scientology? An inside look....

[WillyTex]

BillyG wrote:
> Now, just what is Scientology?
>
Some people feel better when they have 
someone to talk to, Billy. It's that 
simple. There will always be a form 
of 'scientology' as long as there are 
people talking. Just like meditation
is just thinking things over - there
will always be a form of 'meditation' 
as long as there are people that think.

[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents "Contact & Disclosure: The Final Sequenc

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog"  wrote:

> I watched Greer's video. The thing that I found fascinating
> about it was his claim that he can "vector" them in, make
> them arrive at a certain location, communicate with them
> with his consciousness and train people to do this. I'd like
> to see him do this in Fairfield. We could sell tickets as a
> fund raiser like we did for the Beach Boys' concert this
> summer. David Lynch should sign on for it. Seriously, I'd
> really like to see a demonstration of his vectoring abilities.

Sheesh, that's all the TMO needs!

I have no idea what it is Greer is doing, but I seriously
doubt it's what he *thinks* he's doing. This is where
I suspect the fantasies kick in.

> I'm easily swayed by conspiracy theories so I'm inclined
> to believe his claims about the existence of Unacknowledged
> Special Access Programs, covert activities of a "shadow
> government" so secret that even Bill Clinton and his CIA
> guys were forbidden access to information about UFO's.
> Apparently Greer met with the Clintons and his CIA director
> about getting access to the USAP but they thought it was too
> dangerous to force disclosure. Perhaps Greer stretches
> credulity at this point but I'm still willing to give him
> the benefit of the doubt.

My credulity doesn't stretch that far. I doubt he "met
with the Clintons." Representatives, at best. I don't
believe the president and the CIA were "forbidden access"
to anything. I think that's his interpretation of whatever
it was they *did* say. Just as a common-sense matter,
if it were true, they wouldn't have told *him* that, for
pete's sake.

If anybody ever actually said it was "too dangerous,"
what they meant was, "We don't know what the f*ck is
going on here, and it would be dangerous for us to
admit that we weren't on top of everything."

I'm suspicious of anybody who isn't utterly
confounded by the evidence, such as it is. The more
you know, the less comprehensible it becomes.

> Greer implies he has been in contact with the Obama
> administration about disclosing UFO secrets.

"In contact with" can mean anything. It could mean he
sent them a letter and got a form response back.

I really didn't find Greer convincing (although, as I said,
I missed about the middle third of his presentation--maybe
I'll go back and watch again and try to stay awake through
the whole thing.)





 Interestingly, at St. Gabes on Christmas Eve Father Tom, in the context of a 
sermon he gave about religious diversity said that the Vatican recently 
announced it had an interest in a scientific and religious dialogue about the 
implications of extraterrestrial life. So I Googled the topic and found an 
article that seems to support Greer's claim that Obama administration and the 
UN desire to disclose information about UFO's but military agencies such as the 
British Ministry of Defence (MOD) want to shut it down.
> 
> "In an apparent set back for secret official efforts to announce the 
> existence of extraterrestrial life, the British Ministry of Defence (MOD) has 
> just closed its UFO desk. After 50 years of having an official reporting 
> mechanism in place for public sightings of UFOs, a spokesman for the Ministry 
> of Defence stated that the funds could be better used for the Afghanistan 
> war. What is the impact of the British MOD decision to close its UFO desk? 
> Why was such an announcement made now given that only a trivial amount of 
> public funds (44,000 pounds/US$73,000 a year) will be saved on an issue that 
> generates strong public passion? Is this a simple administrative decision on 
> an issue that genuinely involves no national security factor; or a cynical 
> move by a powerful British based national security faction to influence 
> and/or impede coordinated international efforts to disclose the existence of 
> extraterrestrial life?"
> 
> Read more:
> http://snipurl.com/tuy3u
> http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m12d5-British-MOD-closes-UFO-desk--impact-on-extraterrestrial-disclosure

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 30th Anniversary Celebrations!

[Bhairitu]

And what about Swami Vivekenanda, Swami Shivananda, Swami Yogananda, and 
the list goes on and on?  I met a software engineer once whose dad came 
to Hollywood to teach yoga way before Maharishi arrived.  Maharishi was 
just another "flavor of the month" for the mystical societies that 
Charlie Lutes and his buddies were involved in.   What you can claim is 
that Maharishi "popularized" meditation.

shukra69 wrote:
> Such instruction was almost non-existant before Maharishi and is exceedingly 
> rare outside his teaching even today, though of course with success there are 
> imitators, and those like yourself who seek personal enrichment by 
> criticising those who are trying to help others.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand"  wrote:
>   
>> Maharishi was teaching this meditation for free for several years before 
>> residing in Hollywood and starting to charge for it simple meditation 
>> instruction. I doubt anyone back in India in those days would have paid to 
>> be given a mantra and a little advice on how to bring the mind to a state of 
>> restful alertness.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 30th Anniversary Celebrations!

[WillyTex]

> > They are claiming that TM is derived 
> > from Sri Vidya and Advaita Vedanta...
> >   
Bhairitu wrote:
> Do you think MMY just made it up or found 
> it elsewhere...?  
>
The Adi Shankaracharya is the founder of the
Advaita Vedanta in the ninth century. So we 
know that as a fact and not something made 
up by MMY.

And, we know that all of the Saraswati 
sannyasins at Sringeri follow the Sri Vidya 
tradition. So, we know that as a fact and 
not something made up by MMY.

All of the Saraswati sannyasins meditate on 
the Saraswati bija mantra, just like TMers 
do.

Apparently nobody knows for sure where the
Saraswati bija mantra came from. I suspect 
that the Saraswati bija is Tantric Buddhist 
in origin - it is mentioned in several
Tibetan Tantras. It's obviously the nick-name
for Tara, in Tantric Buddhist meditation.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sally Albright Theory Of Politics (was: The Left's Fatal Abstraction)

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> Great essay, John. Thanks for posting it.
> 
> That's it exactly...what I and others have been
> feeling in so many of the "Kill The Bill" rants.
> Not only are these people focusing on an abstrac-
> tion of a perfect tree to the point of not being
> able to remember what a forest is, a lot of them
> seem to be doing it out of a sense of spite and
> childish willfulness.
> 
> It's as if their theory of how politics works is
> that if you just demand what you want long enough,
> people will give it to you. The mindest reminds
> me in a less charming way of Sally in "When Harry
> Met Sally," whose restaurant-ordering tendencies
> always meant more work for the chefs and the 
> servers. The dressing couldn't be on the salad;
> it had to be "on the side." Her justification for
> this? "I just want it the way I want it."
> 
> Onscreen, it gets a laugh. When acted out by people
> who call themselves activists but who would prefer
> no health care reform to not having it the way they
> want it, not so much.
> 


Here's a comment in the same vein by former Republican John Cole that pretty 
much supports what you've said:  

"...the left wing of the party want to do whatever they can to destroy Obama 
because he hasn't done everything they want in 11 months. - - And you can not 
convince me that a lot of this isn't just the same old PUMA bullshit. 

"BTW- has Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild vented about the public option yet?"

http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=31694






> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > The Left's Fatal Abstraction Critics Of Health Reform On Obama's Left
> > Have Largely Focused On Symbolic Issuesby Ronald Brownstein
> > National Journal Magazine - Thursday, Dec. 24, 2009
> > 
> > "But the idea that Democrats should just press restart
> > after the grueling struggle to reach this point carries
> > an air of fatal abstraction: If health reform fails now,
> > the next chance for big change probably wouldn't come
> > for years, if not decades."
> > 
> > With the Senate's passage Thursday morning of sweeping health
> > care reform, President Obama took another giant step toward the biggest
> > legislative achievement for any Democratic president since Lyndon
> > Johnson muscled Medicare into law in 1965.
> > 
> > Comprehensive health care reform has defeated every president who has
> > pursued it, from Franklin Roosevelt to Bill Clinton. But, even with some
> > hurdles remaining, Obama is now on track to sign legislation early next
> > year moving the U.S. toward universal coverage.
> > 
> > 
> > Though the bill bears all the scars and imperfections of its arduous
> > advance, it's likely to stand as the signal domestic accomplishment of
> > his presidency, even if he serves two terms.
> > 
> > And so, naturally, the reaction of the most visible component of the
> > Democratic base has been to link arms with congressional Republicans and
> > the conservative grassroots to insist that the bill be killed.
> > 
> > 
> > Even as conservatives denounce the bill as an ominous extension of
> > government's reach, leading lights of the Internet-based digital left
> > like Howard Dean, MoveOn.org, Markos Moulitsas and Arianna Huffington
> > are portraying it as a Christmas gift to special interests.
> > 
> > 
> > One side sees a socialist taking America on a sleigh ride toward Sweden;
> > the other a sell-out surrendering to big business and reactionary
> > "ConservaDems."
> > 
> > 
> > Who says no good deed goes unpunished?
> > The new Internet-based left, because it is so heavily reliant on
> > college-educated whites generally less exposed to the economy's storms,
> > has a blind spot on kitchen table issues.
> > The right's fury is easy to understand. It has opposed universal
> > coverage for generations both on policy (excessive federal intrusion
> > into the marketplace) and political grounds. Though conservatives are
> > now confidently predicting a short-term backlash against the
> > legislation, the right's shrewdest strategists have long worried that if
> > government-guaranteed health care ever takes root, Americans would
> > become more inclined to look to Washington for economic security, which
> > would weaken conservative anti-government arguments.
> > 
> > The left's outrage is more puzzling.
> > 
> > 
> > The bill has been wrenched by many compromises. But it imposes on the
> > insurance industry tough rules long sought by liberals, including a ban
> > on the denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions. Once fully phased
> > in, it would spend nearly $200 billion annually to help more than 30
> > million uninsured Americans obtain coverage.
> > 
> > 
> > Yet it squeezes enough savings from inefficiencies in current health
> > spending that the Congressional Budget Office projects it will reduce
> > the federal deficit in the near- and long-term, and the independent
> > Medicare Actua

[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents "Contact & Disclosure: The Final Sequenc

[raunchydog]

Interesting story, Judy. I haven't seen UFO's but I know people who have seen 
them. There's probably "something" there and I agree that we can only speculate 
about the intention of the visitors or what it "means."  

I watched Greer's video. The thing that I found fascinating about it was his 
claim that he can "vector" them in, make them arrive at a certain location, 
communicate with them with his consciousness and train people to do this. I'd 
like to see him do this in Fairfield. We could sell tickets as a fund raiser 
like we did for the Beach Boys' concert this summer. David Lynch should sign on 
for it. Seriously, I'd really like to see a demonstration of his vectoring 
abilities.

I'm easily swayed by conspiracy theories so I'm inclined to believe his claims 
about the existence of Unacknowledged Special Access Programs, covert 
activities of a "shadow government" so secret that even Bill Clinton and his 
CIA guys were forbidden access to information about UFO's. Apparently Greer met 
with the Clintons and his CIA director about getting access to the USAP but 
they thought it was too dangerous to force disclosure. Perhaps Greer stretches 
credulity at this point but I'm still willing to give him the benefit of the 
doubt. 

Greer implies he has been in contact with the Obama administration about 
disclosing UFO secrets. Interestingly, at St. Gabes on Christmas Eve Father 
Tom, in the context of a sermon he gave about religious diversity said that the 
Vatican recently announced it had an interest in a scientific and religious 
dialogue about the implications of extraterrestrial life. So I Googled the 
topic and found an article that seems to support Greer's claim that Obama 
administration and the UN desire to disclose information about UFO's but 
military agencies such as the British Ministry of Defence (MOD) want to shut it 
down.

"In an apparent set back for secret official efforts to announce the existence 
of extraterrestrial life, the British Ministry of Defence (MOD) has just closed 
its UFO desk. After 50 years of having an official reporting mechanism in place 
for public sightings of UFOs, a spokesman for the Ministry of Defence stated 
that the funds could be better used for the Afghanistan war. What is the impact 
of the British MOD decision to close its UFO desk? Why was such an announcement 
made now given that only a trivial amount of public funds (44,000 
pounds/US$73,000 a year) will be saved on an issue that generates strong public 
passion? Is this a simple administrative decision on an issue that genuinely 
involves no national security factor; or a cynical move by a powerful British 
based national security faction to influence and/or impede coordinated 
international efforts to disclose the existence of extraterrestrial life?"

Read more:
http://snipurl.com/tuy3u
http://www.examiner.com/x-2383-Honolulu-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m12d5-British-MOD-closes-UFO-desk--impact-on-extraterrestrial-disclosure

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> 
> > Here's my take on the subject, my opinions having been formed
> > by reading many books, seeing videos, gut feelings, private 
> > conversations with LB Shriver (just kidding!), etc.:
> >  
> > Infinite intelligence is omnipresent and omnipotent. It's
> > "potency" is its impulse to express itself as fully as it
> > can in every circumstance. Therefore, the universe is
> > teeming with life at all stages of development. There are
> > countless highly evolved civilizations in every galaxy.
> > The Earth has been visited throughout history by
> > representatives of many of these civilizations and is
> > still being visited.
> 
> I can at least tentatively sign on to the last part of
> this, that we have been and are still being visited--
> although what "visited" means in this context is unclear,
> and I even question whether beings from planets elsewhere
> in the galaxy (or other galaxies) are involved.
> 
> Maybe I should put it this way: I think many of the
> phenomena reported are real, in the sense that they aren't
> just pure fantasies on the part of those who report them.
> *Something* is actually going on.
> 
> I can't go along with any of the rest of what Rick says.
> I don't think we have any good basis for understanding
> what these phenomena represent. I suspect folks may be
> creating fantasies *around* the phenomena, especially 
> in terms of the intentions of these purported beings.
> 
> I'm dubious about any attempt to nail down what's behind
> the phenomena because my impression has been that their
> primary characteristic is that *they don't make any sense*.
> To make sense out of them, you have to be very selective
> about what you take into account. Any sensible frame must
> ignore chunks of what has been reported.
> 
> FWIW, I've had two good UFO sightings, both several decades
> ago, both over New York City, seen from my apartment

[FairfieldLife] Re: 30th Anniversary Celebrations!

[WillyTex]

Vaj wrote:
> Interesting to see these independent teachers 
> are continuing the Holy Tradition of lies. They 
> are claiming that TM is derived from Sri Vidya 
> and Advaita Vedanta--both of course are, ,
> untrue...
>
All of the composers of the Upanishads (Vedanta) 
were transcendentalists - the term 'TM' means a 
'meditation that is transcendental'. 

'Transcendental' means that the Ultimate Reality 
is beyond the physical senses and can be 
experienced in a state of enstasis - non-dual, 
pure consciousness (Advaita).

Now, let's review the facts: 

It is a fact that Guru Dev was a sannyasin of 
the Shankaracharya tradition, which was founded 
in the ninth century by the Adi Shankaracharya. 

It is a fact that Swami Brahmananda Saraswati 
practiced and taught a meditation based on the 
Advaita Vedanta.

It is a fact, that Guru Dev's teacher was Swami 
Krishananda Saraswati of Uttar kashi, who was a 
member of the Shankaracharya Order, headquartered 
at Sringeri. It is incumbent on all members of 
the Saraswati Order to meditate on the bija 
mantra of Saraswati at least twice daily.

It is a fact, that the Saraswati order of 
sannyasins at Sringeri all follow the path of 
the Sri Vidya. 

It is a fact that they all revere the Sri Yantra 
and the Anandalahiri. It also a fact that the 
bija mantra of Saraswati is enumerated in the 
Anandalahiri and inscribed on the Sri Yantra.

It's not a leap of imagination, based on the 
facts, to assume that the Mahesh Yogi got the 
bija mantra of Saraswati from his teacher, who 
got it from his teacher, all the way back to the 
founder of the Saraswati Order, the Adi Shankara, 
who composed the Anandalahiri, with the Saraswati 
bija in it, and who placed the Shri Yantra at 
Sringeri, with the Saraswati bija inscribed on 
it.

A Tantric Acharya confirmed almost everything I 
pointed out above. Apparently these facts are 
common knowledge all over India, and most Indian 
store clerks even know about it, but to you it's 
confusing. Go figure.

Read more:

From: Willytex
Subject: Re: Adi Shankara
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: December 8, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/ycoamch

From: Willytex
Subject: Bijas and Other Seed Sounds
Newsgroups: alt.meditation.transcendental
Date: November 26, 2009
http://tinyurl.com/yhr53b2

[FairfieldLife] "Lucky to Be Alive"

[authfriend]

  [*Dec 25 - 00:05*] 




No relevance at all to anything here, it's just
such an incredibly sweet photo. The guy, Jose
Paulino, 29, fell eight stories from a scaffolding
yesterday, landing on his chest, and his worst
injury was four broken ribs. He'll be going home
from the hospital on Monday. His mother is on the
left, his wife on the right.

Full story here:

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/12/26/2009-12-26_im_lucky_to_be\
_alive_after_falling_8_stories_worker_celebrates_christmas_in_hosp.html


http://tinyurl.com/yz8uzla 

[FairfieldLife] House Dem: Senate Bill Isn't Reform

[authfriend]

(Of course, Slaughter is a  woman, so even
though she's not a spiteful whiny childish lefty
blogger, her views aren't worthy of serious
consideration.)

A Democrat's view from the House: Senate bill isn't 
health reform

By Louise M. Slaughter, Special to CNN


Editor's note: Rep. Louise M. Slaughter, a Democrat, 
represents the 28th Congressional District of New York. 
Slaughter is the first woman to chair the House Rules 
Committee and the only microbiologist in Congress. 


Washington (CNN) -- The Senate health care bill is not 
worthy of the historic vote that the House took a month 
ago.

Even though the House version is far from perfect, it 
at least represents a step toward our goal of giving 36 
million Americans decent health coverage.

But under the Senate plan, millions of Americans will 
be forced into private insurance company plans, which 
will be subsidized by taxpayers. That alternative will 
do almost nothing to reform health care but will be a 
windfall for insurance companies. Is it any surprise 
that stock prices for some of those insurers are up 
recently?

I do not want to subsidize the private insurance 
market; the whole point of creating a government option 
is to bring prices down. Insisting on a government 
mandate to have insurance without a better alternative 
to the status quo is not true reform.

By eliminating the public option, the government 
program that could spark competition within the health 
insurance industry, the Senate has ended up with a bill 
that isn't worthy of its support.

The public option is the part of our reform effort that 
will lower costs, improve the delivery of health care 
services and force insurance companies to offer rates 
and services that are reasonable.

Although the art of legislating involves compromise, I 
believe the Senate went off the rails when it agreed 
with the Obama Administration to water down the reform 
bill and no longer include the public option.

But that's not the only thing wrong with the Senate's 
version of the health care bill.

Under that plan, insurance companies can punish older 
people, charging them much higher rates than the House 
bill would allow.

In the House, we fought hard to repeal McCarran-
Ferguson, the antitrust exemption that insurance 
companies have enjoyed for years. We did that because 
we believed firmly that those Fortune 500 corporations 
should not enjoy special treatment.

Yet the Senate bill does not include that provision -- 
despite assurances from some members that they will 
seek to add it. By ending that protection, we will be 
able to go after insurance companies with federal 
penalties for misleading advertising or dishonest 
business practices.

The House bill would cover 96 percent of legal 
residents, while the Senate covers 94 percent. Compared 
with the House bill, the Senate's bill makes it much 
easier for employers to avoid the responsibility of 
providing insurance for their workers.

And of course, the Senate bill did not remove the 
onerous choice language intended to appeal to anti-
abortion forces.

Now don't get me wrong; the current House and Senate 
bills are a significant improvement over the status 
quo. Given the hard path to reform and the political 
realities of next year, there is a sizable group within 
Congress that wants to simply cut any deal that works 
and call it a success. Many previous efforts have 
failed, and the path to reform is littered with 
unsuccessful efforts championed by Franklin Delano 
Roosevelt, Harry Truman and Bill Clinton.

Supporters of the weak Senate bill say "just pass it -- 
any bill is better than no bill."

I strongly disagree -- a conference report is unlikely 
to sufficiently bridge the gap between these two very 
different bills.

It's time that we draw the line on this weak bill and 
ask the Senate to go back to the drawing board. The 
American people deserve at least that.



The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely 
those of Louise Slaughter.

Find this article at: 
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/OPINION/12/23/slaughter.oppose.senate.bill  
http://tinyurl.com/ydpe696

[FairfieldLife] Re: For those who have tattoos in Japanese or Chinese or Sanskrit

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> :-)
>   [http://i.imgur.com/NXX2z.jpg]

Uh-oh...

http://alex.natel.net/misc/aum_tattoo.jpg

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sally Albright Theory Of Politics (was: The Left's Fatal Abstraction)

[authfriend]

Isn't it interesting that neither of the two people here
who are strongly supportive of the Senate bill live in
this country?

Just saying...


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> Great essay, John. Thanks for posting it.
> 
> That's it exactly...what I and others have been
> feeling in so many of the "Kill The Bill" rants.
> Not only are these people focusing on an abstrac-
> tion of a perfect tree to the point of not being
> able to remember what a forest is, a lot of them
> seem to be doing it out of a sense of spite and
> childish willfulness.
> 
> It's as if their theory of how politics works is
> that if you just demand what you want long enough,
> people will give it to you. The mindest reminds
> me in a less charming way of Sally in "When Harry
> Met Sally," whose restaurant-ordering tendencies
> always meant more work for the chefs and the 
> servers. The dressing couldn't be on the salad;
> it had to be "on the side." Her justification for
> this? "I just want it the way I want it."
> 
> Onscreen, it gets a laugh. When acted out by people
> who call themselves activists but who would prefer
> no health care reform to not having it the way they
> want it, not so much.
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> >
> > The Left's Fatal Abstraction Critics Of Health Reform On Obama's Left
> > Have Largely Focused On Symbolic Issuesby Ronald Brownstein
> > National Journal Magazine - Thursday, Dec. 24, 2009
> > 
> > "But the idea that Democrats should just press restart
> > after the grueling struggle to reach this point carries
> > an air of fatal abstraction: If health reform fails now,
> > the next chance for big change probably wouldn't come
> > for years, if not decades."
> > 
> > With the Senate's passage Thursday morning of sweeping health
> > care reform, President Obama took another giant step toward the biggest
> > legislative achievement for any Democratic president since Lyndon
> > Johnson muscled Medicare into law in 1965.
> > 
> > Comprehensive health care reform has defeated every president who has
> > pursued it, from Franklin Roosevelt to Bill Clinton. But, even with some
> > hurdles remaining, Obama is now on track to sign legislation early next
> > year moving the U.S. toward universal coverage.
> > 
> > 
> > Though the bill bears all the scars and imperfections of its arduous
> > advance, it's likely to stand as the signal domestic accomplishment of
> > his presidency, even if he serves two terms.
> > 
> > And so, naturally, the reaction of the most visible component of the
> > Democratic base has been to link arms with congressional Republicans and
> > the conservative grassroots to insist that the bill be killed.
> > 
> > 
> > Even as conservatives denounce the bill as an ominous extension of
> > government's reach, leading lights of the Internet-based digital left
> > like Howard Dean, MoveOn.org, Markos Moulitsas and Arianna Huffington
> > are portraying it as a Christmas gift to special interests.
> > 
> > 
> > One side sees a socialist taking America on a sleigh ride toward Sweden;
> > the other a sell-out surrendering to big business and reactionary
> > "ConservaDems."
> > 
> > 
> > Who says no good deed goes unpunished?
> > The new Internet-based left, because it is so heavily reliant on
> > college-educated whites generally less exposed to the economy's storms,
> > has a blind spot on kitchen table issues.
> > The right's fury is easy to understand. It has opposed universal
> > coverage for generations both on policy (excessive federal intrusion
> > into the marketplace) and political grounds. Though conservatives are
> > now confidently predicting a short-term backlash against the
> > legislation, the right's shrewdest strategists have long worried that if
> > government-guaranteed health care ever takes root, Americans would
> > become more inclined to look to Washington for economic security, which
> > would weaken conservative anti-government arguments.
> > 
> > The left's outrage is more puzzling.
> > 
> > 
> > The bill has been wrenched by many compromises. But it imposes on the
> > insurance industry tough rules long sought by liberals, including a ban
> > on the denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions. Once fully phased
> > in, it would spend nearly $200 billion annually to help more than 30
> > million uninsured Americans obtain coverage.
> > 
> > 
> > Yet it squeezes enough savings from inefficiencies in current health
> > spending that the Congressional Budget Office projects it will reduce
> > the federal deficit in the near- and long-term, and the independent
> > Medicare Actuary calculates that it will vastly extend coverage while
> > increasing total national health care spending (by business, government
> > and individuals) by less than a penny on the dollar through 2019.
> > 
> > 
> > And it advances almost all the ideas that cutting-edge reformers
> > consider essential to slowing long-term co

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Sally Albright Theory Of Politics (was: The Left's Fatal Abstraction)

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
>
> Great essay, John. Thanks for posting it.
> 
> That's it exactly...what I and others have been
> feeling in so many of the "Kill The Bill" rants.
> Not only are these people focusing on an abstrac-
> tion of a perfect tree to the point of not being
> able to remember what a forest is, a lot of them
> seem to be doing it out of a sense of spite and
> childish willfulness.

Sez Barry, who hasn't got a freaking *clue* what's
involved.


> Onscreen, it gets a laugh. When acted out by people
> who call themselves activists but who would prefer
> no health care reform to not having it the way they
> want it, not so much.

Q.E.D.

Life is so simple for Barry.

[FairfieldLife] The Sally Albright Theory Of Politics (was: The Left's Fatal Abstraction)

[TurquoiseB]

Great essay, John. Thanks for posting it.

That's it exactly...what I and others have been
feeling in so many of the "Kill The Bill" rants.
Not only are these people focusing on an abstrac-
tion of a perfect tree to the point of not being
able to remember what a forest is, a lot of them
seem to be doing it out of a sense of spite and
childish willfulness.

It's as if their theory of how politics works is
that if you just demand what you want long enough,
people will give it to you. The mindest reminds
me in a less charming way of Sally in "When Harry
Met Sally," whose restaurant-ordering tendencies
always meant more work for the chefs and the 
servers. The dressing couldn't be on the salad;
it had to be "on the side." Her justification for
this? "I just want it the way I want it."

Onscreen, it gets a laugh. When acted out by people
who call themselves activists but who would prefer
no health care reform to not having it the way they
want it, not so much.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
>
> The Left's Fatal Abstraction Critics Of Health Reform On Obama's Left
> Have Largely Focused On Symbolic Issuesby Ronald Brownstein
> National Journal Magazine - Thursday, Dec. 24, 2009
> 
> "But the idea that Democrats should just press restart
> after the grueling struggle to reach this point carries
> an air of fatal abstraction: If health reform fails now,
> the next chance for big change probably wouldn't come
> for years, if not decades."
> 
> With the Senate's passage Thursday morning of sweeping health
> care reform, President Obama took another giant step toward the biggest
> legislative achievement for any Democratic president since Lyndon
> Johnson muscled Medicare into law in 1965.
> 
> Comprehensive health care reform has defeated every president who has
> pursued it, from Franklin Roosevelt to Bill Clinton. But, even with some
> hurdles remaining, Obama is now on track to sign legislation early next
> year moving the U.S. toward universal coverage.
> 
> 
> Though the bill bears all the scars and imperfections of its arduous
> advance, it's likely to stand as the signal domestic accomplishment of
> his presidency, even if he serves two terms.
> 
> And so, naturally, the reaction of the most visible component of the
> Democratic base has been to link arms with congressional Republicans and
> the conservative grassroots to insist that the bill be killed.
> 
> 
> Even as conservatives denounce the bill as an ominous extension of
> government's reach, leading lights of the Internet-based digital left
> like Howard Dean, MoveOn.org, Markos Moulitsas and Arianna Huffington
> are portraying it as a Christmas gift to special interests.
> 
> 
> One side sees a socialist taking America on a sleigh ride toward Sweden;
> the other a sell-out surrendering to big business and reactionary
> "ConservaDems."
> 
> 
> Who says no good deed goes unpunished?
> The new Internet-based left, because it is so heavily reliant on
> college-educated whites generally less exposed to the economy's storms,
> has a blind spot on kitchen table issues.
> The right's fury is easy to understand. It has opposed universal
> coverage for generations both on policy (excessive federal intrusion
> into the marketplace) and political grounds. Though conservatives are
> now confidently predicting a short-term backlash against the
> legislation, the right's shrewdest strategists have long worried that if
> government-guaranteed health care ever takes root, Americans would
> become more inclined to look to Washington for economic security, which
> would weaken conservative anti-government arguments.
> 
> The left's outrage is more puzzling.
> 
> 
> The bill has been wrenched by many compromises. But it imposes on the
> insurance industry tough rules long sought by liberals, including a ban
> on the denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions. Once fully phased
> in, it would spend nearly $200 billion annually to help more than 30
> million uninsured Americans obtain coverage.
> 
> 
> Yet it squeezes enough savings from inefficiencies in current health
> spending that the Congressional Budget Office projects it will reduce
> the federal deficit in the near- and long-term, and the independent
> Medicare Actuary calculates that it will vastly extend coverage while
> increasing total national health care spending (by business, government
> and individuals) by less than a penny on the dollar through 2019.
> 
> 
> And it advances almost all the ideas that cutting-edge reformers
> consider essential to slowing long-term cost growth by nudging the
> medical system away from fee-for-service medicine toward approaches that
> more closely tie provider compensation to results for patients.
> 
> Against all that, the aggrieved left has mostly focused on two
> concessions made to centrist Senate Democrats: restrictions on abortion
> coverage and the abandonment of a public competitor to private insurers.
> 
> 
> But each is a la

[FairfieldLife] Re: Jane Hamsher goes off the deep end

[WillyTex]

John Masnning wrote:
> Jane Hamsher goes off the deep end...
>
You sound really afraid of Jane Hamsher, 
John - afraid she might tell the truth
on Fox News? Why don't you just post the
facts here and let us decide for ourselves
who is telling the truth or not? What did
Hamsher say about Lieberman's wife?

[FairfieldLife] For those who have tattoos in Japanese or Chinese or Sanskrit

[TurquoiseB]

:-)
  [http://i.imgur.com/NXX2z.jpg]

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Left's Fatal Abstraction

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> 
> The Left's Fatal Abstraction
> Critics Of Health Reform On Obama's Left Have Largely
> Focused On Symbolic Issues
>
> by Ronald Brownstein
> National Journal Magazine - Thursday, Dec. 24, 2009
> 
> "But the idea that Democrats should just press restart
> after the grueling struggle to reach this point carries
> an air of fatal abstraction: If health reform fails now,
> the next chance for big change probably wouldn't come
> for years, if not decades."

The "restart" idea has been with reference only to the
Senate bill that was just passed. The House bill, while
not perfect, was acceptable in its present form; but it
most likely won't be after the two are reconciled.

The critics on the left DO NOT want health reform to
fail. And the notion that if the current attempt doesn't
make it, there will be no new chance for a long while,
is far from a given, as I've pointed out before.

What is much more likely is that if a *bad* bill passes,
it will help Republicans gain enough seats in Congress
to start dismantling everything in it that might actually
have had a positive effect.

To portray the left's position as an "abstraction" is
just a way to avoid grappling with the hard realities.

[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents "Contact & Disclosure: The Final Sequenc

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:

> Here's my take on the subject, my opinions having been formed
> by reading many books, seeing videos, gut feelings, private 
> conversations with LB Shriver (just kidding!), etc.:
>  
> Infinite intelligence is omnipresent and omnipotent. It's
> "potency" is its impulse to express itself as fully as it
> can in every circumstance. Therefore, the universe is
> teeming with life at all stages of development. There are
> countless highly evolved civilizations in every galaxy.
> The Earth has been visited throughout history by
> representatives of many of these civilizations and is
> still being visited.

I can at least tentatively sign on to the last part of
this, that we have been and are still being visited--
although what "visited" means in this context is unclear,
and I even question whether beings from planets elsewhere
in the galaxy (or other galaxies) are involved.

Maybe I should put it this way: I think many of the
phenomena reported are real, in the sense that they aren't
just pure fantasies on the part of those who report them.
*Something* is actually going on.

I can't go along with any of the rest of what Rick says.
I don't think we have any good basis for understanding
what these phenomena represent. I suspect folks may be
creating fantasies *around* the phenomena, especially 
in terms of the intentions of these purported beings.

I'm dubious about any attempt to nail down what's behind
the phenomena because my impression has been that their
primary characteristic is that *they don't make any sense*.
To make sense out of them, you have to be very selective
about what you take into account. Any sensible frame must
ignore chunks of what has been reported.

FWIW, I've had two good UFO sightings, both several decades
ago, both over New York City, seen from my apartment.

One was of two glowing orange-red cigar-shaped objects that
appeared near dusk moving through a cloudless sky for about
5-10 seconds and then disappeared; my sister was with me at
the time, and she saw them too. The setting sun was at the
wrong angle to have been illuminating them.

The other was at night, by myself. I watched for a good
five minutes as a set of lights moved very slowly from the northeastern horizon 
straight toward me and right over my
apartment building. To start with, they appeared as a single
very bright light and resolved as they got closer into the
standard boomerang-shape that's been reported many times in
many different places (although I didn't find this out until
later), five or seven (can't remember now) bright lights in
a huge, rock-solid V-formation, moving much more slowly than
any airplane, and in total silence.

In both cases, local news had no reports of anyone else
having seen these things.

Especially with regard to the boomerang object, that makes
no sense. I lived smack in the middle of Manhattan, and it
was moving over a very densely populated area around nine
or ten at night. The lights were bright enough and moving
slowly enough, and looked strange enough, that hundreds of
people should have seen them and realized how weird they
were. There should have been a major flap, as there was
with similar formations over Phoenix some years back. The
damn thing was moving straight downtown, right along
Manhattan's lengthwise axis!

I have no explanation. I wasn't hallucinating. I had no
particular interest in UFOs at the time, wasn't even
aware that the boomerang formation had been frequently
reported. Could this have been a special "showing" just
for me? *Why*? It didn't affect my life, didn't turn me
into a UFO nut. It did increase my interest in UFO
reports, but not to the point of preoccupation; UFOs 
are just one of many different things I'm interested in,
most of which are perfectly "normal."

And as I said, I'm highly skeptical of any attempt to
interpret the phenomena.

Maybe there's some Grand Design that humans simply don't
have the cognitive ability to recognize. But if that's
the case, why do "they" bother? What could "they" hope
to gain?

Just doesn't make any sense.

[FairfieldLife] Re: 30th Anniversary Celebrations!

[shukra69]

Such instruction was almost non-existant before Maharishi and is exceedingly 
rare outside his teaching even today, though of course with success there are 
imitators, and those like yourself who seek personal enrichment by criticising 
those who are trying to help others.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand"  wrote:
>
> Maharishi was teaching this meditation for free for several years before 
> residing in Hollywood and starting to charge for it simple meditation 
> instruction. I doubt anyone back in India in those days would have paid to be 
> given a mantra and a little advice on how to bring the mind to a state of 
> restful alertness.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Premanand"  wrote:
> > >
> > > Turquoise, whilst I continue to practice transcendental 
> > > meditation regularly, I can't help but wholeheartedly 
> > > agree with what you say in this posting. There is no value 
> > > in blaming others for what Maharishi himself instituted. I 
> > > agree that those who find value in this meditation, and wish 
> > > to teach it, should just get on with it, as Maharishi himself 
> > > did. I am glad to hear that you consider TM unsellable, perhaps 
> > > now people will revert to sharing it without asking payment.
> > 
> > While I understand what you're trying to say, 
> > I hardly think that me considering TM unsellable
> > is going to convince anyone else of that. :-) I
> > do not delude myself into thinking that I have
> > the level of influence that those who spend their
> > lives stalking and trying to demonize me seem to
> > think I have.
> > 
> > But as for teaching meditation for free, I'm with
> > you all the way. I taught TM, and I taught meditation
> > in other contexts, always for free, and in fact paying
> > for all the teaching expenses myself. I think the 
> > latter approach is better for all concerned. No one
> > should ever make a profit by sharing something this
> > essentially free. History teaches us that those who
> > try *to* profit from it never do, and always lose
> > karmically, as do their students. 
> > 
> > You don't "give back to the world" by charging for it.
> > 
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"  
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Two points on this. 
> > > > > > 1. The 30th anniversary was actually last summer. I guess the 
> > > > > > idea just came up.
> > > > > > 2. None of the people mentioned below have actual Doctorate 
> > > > > > degrees.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The idea just came up?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Naw,take a look.  He is trying to save his job and his 
> > > > > relevance in the middle of the TMmovement today.
> > > > 
> > > > That is to say, "maintain his relevance in a
> > > > spiritual movement that has rendered itself
> > > > completely irrelevant." 
> > > > 
> > > > NO ONE CARES about TM or the TM movement
> > > > other than people who are trying to protect
> > > > their images of it and their own self-importance
> > > > within it. It has no effect on society as a 
> > > > whole, and hasn't in decades. And neither have
> > > > they, except in the limited sense that they can
> > > > preserve the illusion of being "big fish in a 
> > > > small pond."
> > > > 
> > > > I find this "celebration" more than a little sad
> > > > not because they're parading a group of non-Ph.D.s
> > > > posing as Ph.D.s as if they were important, but 
> > > > because the *only* thing they can think of *as* 
> > > > important is something they were peripherally 
> > > > involved in 30 years ago. As noted before, you 
> > > > know your best days are behind you when you have 
> > > > to look into the past to find your inspiration.
> > > > 
> > > > > Look who he's invited to be with him while folks like 
> > > > > DLynch, Roth, hagelin and others are out on the road teaching 
> > > > > meditation. It's the old Bevan gang.   While the others are 
> > > > > out doing the work of the modern TMmovement.
> > > > 
> > > > Doug, while on one level I appreciate your desire
> > > > to find Bad Guys in all of this, and find someone
> > > > to blame for the irrelevance of the TM movement,
> > > > it's not Bevan. It's Maharishi. 
> > > > 
> > > > *He* priced TM out of the market. *He* made it into
> > > > something that even the rich wouldn't be interested
> > > > in by cross-dressing his fanatical toadies in dresses
> > > > and crowns. *He* rendered a passable and sometimes
> > > > useful technique of meditation unsellable and unmar-
> > > > ketable by associating it with infinite amounts of
> > > > Woo Woo, money-grubbing, dogma, and elitism. *He* 
> > > > allowed or orchestrated most of the shitty things 
> > > > done to TMers and TM teachers who were ostracized 
> > > > for being Off The Program.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yantra-mattan: everybody has heard of??

[shukra69]

looks like a winner

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
>
> 
> I guess almost everybody has already heard of this:
> 
> http://www.yantramattan.se/usa/index.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nice "fake suns"(?)

[shukra69]

Sun dogs in english

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
>
> 
> Fake suns (or whatever they are in English) in 
> Hausjarvi, Finland:
> 
> http://www.gypsii.com/place.cgi?op=view&id=2520826
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: 30th Anniversary Celebrations!

[dhamiltony2k5]

> > > >
> > > > Two points on this. 
> > > > 1. The 30th anniversary was actually last summer. I guess the 
> > > > idea just came up.
> > > > 2. None of the people mentioned below have actual Doctorate 
> > > > degrees.
> > > 
> > > The idea just came up?
> > > 
> > > Naw,take a look.  He is trying to save his job and his 
> > > relevance in the middle of the TMmovement today.
> > 
> > That is to say, "maintain his relevance in a
> > spiritual movement that has rendered itself
> > completely irrelevant." 
> > 
> > NO ONE CARES about TM or the TM movement
> > other than people who are trying to protect
> > their images of it and their own self-importance
> > within it. It has no effect on society as a 
> > whole, and hasn't in decades. And neither have
> > they, except in the limited sense that they can
> > preserve the illusion of being "big fish in a 
> > small pond."
> > 
> > I find this "celebration" more than a little sad
> > not because they're parading a group of non-Ph.D.s
> > posing as Ph.D.s as if they were important, but 
> > because the *only* thing they can think of *as* 
> > important is something they were peripherally 
> > involved in 30 years ago. As noted before, you 
> > know your best days are behind you when you have 
> > to look into the past to find your inspiration.
> > 
> > > Look who he's invited to be with him while folks like 
> > > DLynch, Roth, hagelin and others are out on the road teaching 
> > > meditation. It's the old Bevan gang.   While the others are 
> > > out doing the work of the modern TMmovement.
> > 
> > Doug, while on one level I appreciate your desire
> > to find Bad Guys in all of this, and find someone
> > to blame for the irrelevance of the TM movement,
> > it's not Bevan. It's Maharishi. 
> >
> 
> Dear 
> Turq,
> Is not my desire.
> However,
> U r correct evidently about the situation.
> 
> Seems more accurately he is a collaborator and co-conspirator.
> Closely with Maharishi.
> Long time.  Is what it is.
> 


Science for the goose is Science for the gander?  Evidently.  Science of 
meditation and then a mighty conflicted science of management at several levels 
by any objective numbers on the other.  Meditation on the one hand and the 
TM.org on the other.  An enormity of good in meditation by the science and a 
consequent  enormity of mismanaged potential in the organization.  The history 
evidently becomes its own indictment by the 'science'.   An indictment of a 
squandered opportunity for enormous good that could simply rise to crime 
against humanity by the significance of their own science.  It is what it is.  
30 years celebration, of integrity?  A culture by what standard of science?  


& the science of  their 'management'?  This list of speakers at this 30 year 
reunion is interesting to examine.  "Known or in a position to have known" is a 
way modern criminal conspiracy indictments read.  In conspiracy cases,  
"Knowing or should have known" as criminal criterion that gets called 
collaborative and co-conspiracy.  Evidently some lot of things have happened & 
evidently because of people letting them happen.  "known or should have known". 
 


Trustees, credulous donors just along at the celebrations and banquets, or 
trusted collaborators?  Standing by or more than standing by.  'Knowing or in a 
position where they should have known'.  Evidently by modern ethics, what they 
did either way says a lot about criminal character.


> 
>  
> > *He* priced TM out of the market. *He* made it into
> > something that even the rich wouldn't be interested
> > in by cross-dressing his fanatical toadies in dresses
> > and crowns. *He* rendered a passable and sometimes
> > useful technique of meditation unsellable and unmar-
> > ketable by associating it with infinite amounts of
> > Woo Woo, money-grubbing, dogma, and elitism. *He* 
> > allowed or orchestrated most of the shitty things 
> > done to TMers and TM teachers who were ostracized 
> > for being Off The Program. 
> > 
> > *Maharishi* brought down the TM movement, not Bevan.
> > 
> > He *personified* his own teaching about the "tragedy
> > of knowledge" and ensured the irrelevance of TM and
> > the TM movement by divorcing it from its own roots
> > in simple, humble daily meditation, trying to shift
> > the emphasis to taking credit for everything good 
> > while taking no responsibility for anything bad.
> > 
> > While I respect your dream that someday the TMO will
> > return to its roots and get back to teaching literally
> > the only good thing it ever had to offer -- the basic
> > TM technique -- it's never going to happen. Those days
> > are as lost in the past as the events this "celebration"
> > are trying to celebrate.
> > 
> > The TM movement *cannot* change. It *cannot* revert to
> > "better days" because Maharishi himself made that 
> > impossible. He was the master of ostracizing and demon-
> > izing "outmoded thinking." People were trained to not
> > only not cling to Last Year's Big I

[FairfieldLife] Hamsher/Norquist - Shaking the Devil's Hand

[do.rflex]

Can't Shake the Devil's Hand and Say You're Only Kidding

by Jeff Fecke 
| December 23rd, 2009
As all denizens of the internets know, Jumping the Shark is a
phrase that has come to represent that moment in which a good something
becomes permanently broken. It originally referred to the moment on
Happy Days when Fonzie, for no evident reason, has to jump over a shark
on waterskis because…well, because he had to, okay?

  [2] 

The actions of the formerly redoubtable Jane Hamsher during this health
care debate, sadly, have now reached a point beyond Jumping the Shark.
Hamsher has Transcended Sharks. She has rocketed over ever every member
of Superorder Selachimorpha, and she is gone.

It's not just her incessant parroting of right-wing talking points
on individual mandates in her quixotic quest to "Kill the Bill."
Yes, Hamsher's rhetoric since the public option was stripped has
essentially mirrored the right-wing talking points (the evil government
is gonna make you buy insurance! And if you're doing well, you might
even end up spending more on insurance, which will help others get
insurance, but so what? What about your rights?), and that was the point
at which she jumped the shark.

But now…well, now Jane has just gone beyond beyond. Because
she's allying herself with the worst elements of the Republican
party. And I don't mean that figuratively
 :

Jane Hamsher, Grover Norquist Call for Rahm Emanuel's Resignation

By: Jane Hamsher Wednesday December 23, 2009 12:17 pm

Today, Grover Norquist and I are calling for an investigation into Rahm
Emanuel's activities at Freddie Mac, and the White House's
blocking of an Inspector General who would look into it. The letter
follows: [...]

This is, in a word, unforgivable. It would be akin to working directly
with Dick Cheney.


Norquist is, quite frankly, a man who has devoted his entire life to
destroying the Democratic Party, and any form of government more robust
that that which exists in Somalia. He famously has said of his aims,
"I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it
to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the
bathtub." He wants to eliminate the FDA, the NEA, the IRS, and the
Department of Education.

Norquist cut his teeth working with the Contras for Ollie North. He
helped Newt Gingrich write the Contract With America. He's the
genius behind the TABOR legislation that's been slowly strangling
Colorado.


Norquist was an early and enthusiastic backer of then-Gov. George W.
Bush's run for the presidency in 2000, and he has been associated
with Karl Rove for decades. His goals are anathema to the goals of
Democrats, or indeed anyone more liberal than James Inhofe.

Quite honestly, if Grover Norquist approached me and asked me to help
him in his quest to save puppies, it would lead me to rethink my
feelings about puppies. So it's not just alarming, but flatly wrong
for Hamsher to join in common cause with Norquist, even if there was
strong evidence that Rahm Emmanuel had done something specifically wrong
during his brief tenure at Freddie Mac, which there isn't.1


At any rate, Hamsher isn't concerned about Emmanuel's ethical
problems. She's mad because Emmanuel put pressure on the Senate to
find a compromise that could get through the Senate, and that led us to
the bill which lacks the public option, which alone has caused mandates
to go from fairly understandable requirements to the worst! violation!
of liberty! ever!!!


And Hamsher wants to punish Emmanuel and the Obama Administration
however she can. if that means making common cause with the likes of
Norquist or Phyllis Freakin' Schlafly
 , so be it.

Well include me out. I can understand being so frustrated with the bill
coming out of the Senate that you'd oppose it. I think the idea that
a better bill is just waiting for more willpower, or attacks on Sen.
Bernie Sanders, I-Vt.
 , or a really good
speech from Barack Obama betrays a certain naïveté about the
realities of the American system of government, and I think the main
lines of attack from the Kill Bill crowd have been specious at best
 , but I can understand the frustration shared by
anti-compromise forces; indeed, I share it, even as I understand that
reality means we have to give in to Ben Nelson or Joe Lieberman because
that's

[FairfieldLife] Hamsher/Norquist - Shaking the Devil

[do.rflex]

[FairfieldLife] The Left's Fatal Abstraction

[do.rflex]

The Left's Fatal Abstraction Critics Of Health Reform On Obama's Left
Have Largely Focused On Symbolic Issuesby Ronald Brownstein
National Journal Magazine - Thursday, Dec. 24, 2009

"But the idea that Democrats should just press restart
after the grueling struggle to reach this point carries
an air of fatal abstraction: If health reform fails now,
the next chance for big change probably wouldn't come
for years, if not decades."

With the Senate's passage Thursday morning of sweeping health
care reform, President Obama took another giant step toward the biggest
legislative achievement for any Democratic president since Lyndon
Johnson muscled Medicare into law in 1965.

Comprehensive health care reform has defeated every president who has
pursued it, from Franklin Roosevelt to Bill Clinton. But, even with some
hurdles remaining, Obama is now on track to sign legislation early next
year moving the U.S. toward universal coverage.


Though the bill bears all the scars and imperfections of its arduous
advance, it's likely to stand as the signal domestic accomplishment of
his presidency, even if he serves two terms.

And so, naturally, the reaction of the most visible component of the
Democratic base has been to link arms with congressional Republicans and
the conservative grassroots to insist that the bill be killed.


Even as conservatives denounce the bill as an ominous extension of
government's reach, leading lights of the Internet-based digital left
like Howard Dean, MoveOn.org, Markos Moulitsas and Arianna Huffington
are portraying it as a Christmas gift to special interests.


One side sees a socialist taking America on a sleigh ride toward Sweden;
the other a sell-out surrendering to big business and reactionary
"ConservaDems."


Who says no good deed goes unpunished?
The new Internet-based left, because it is so heavily reliant on
college-educated whites generally less exposed to the economy's storms,
has a blind spot on kitchen table issues.
The right's fury is easy to understand. It has opposed universal
coverage for generations both on policy (excessive federal intrusion
into the marketplace) and political grounds. Though conservatives are
now confidently predicting a short-term backlash against the
legislation, the right's shrewdest strategists have long worried that if
government-guaranteed health care ever takes root, Americans would
become more inclined to look to Washington for economic security, which
would weaken conservative anti-government arguments.

The left's outrage is more puzzling.


The bill has been wrenched by many compromises. But it imposes on the
insurance industry tough rules long sought by liberals, including a ban
on the denial of coverage for pre-existing conditions. Once fully phased
in, it would spend nearly $200 billion annually to help more than 30
million uninsured Americans obtain coverage.


Yet it squeezes enough savings from inefficiencies in current health
spending that the Congressional Budget Office projects it will reduce
the federal deficit in the near- and long-term, and the independent
Medicare Actuary calculates that it will vastly extend coverage while
increasing total national health care spending (by business, government
and individuals) by less than a penny on the dollar through 2019.


And it advances almost all the ideas that cutting-edge reformers
consider essential to slowing long-term cost growth by nudging the
medical system away from fee-for-service medicine toward approaches that
more closely tie provider compensation to results for patients.

Against all that, the aggrieved left has mostly focused on two
concessions made to centrist Senate Democrats: restrictions on abortion
coverage and the abandonment of a public competitor to private insurers.


But each is a largely symbolic dispute: There's little evidence the
legislation would seriously constrain access to abortion, and the CBO
has estimated that only about 6 million people would choose a public
option. (It was equally irresponsible for the Senate centrists to
threaten to sink the bill over such tangential provisions.)


Even political scientist Jacob Hacker, widely considered the father of
the public option, wrote this week that it "would be wrong" to derail
the bill because it still contains "vital reforms."

In some respects, the left's discontent may be unavoidable. Perpetual
dissatisfaction is the nature, and arguably the role, of activists.


It's easy to forget that not only did liberals issue similar complaints
about Clinton, but conservatives like Newt Gingrich groused that Ronald
Reagan cut too many deals with Democrats.

The new Internet-based left, because it is so heavily reliant on
college-educated whites generally less exposed to the economy's storms,
also has a blind spot on kitchen table issues.


According to the Census Bureau, just 6 percent of college-educated
whites lack health insurance, for instance, compared to 19 percent of
African-Americans and 31 percent 

[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents "Contact & Disclosure: The Final Sequenc

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of wayback71
> Sent: Friday, December 25, 2009 4:34 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents "Contact &
> Disclosure: The Final Sequenc
>  
> My brother and his family and several friends were vacationing in Costa Rico
> about 17 years ago. They were sitting in a restaurant with their children
> and many other patrons. The place had a long wall of large open windows that
> looked out over a cliff and deep valley below. The waether was warm so it
> was basically open air dining. During dinner everyone suddenly noticed a
> large round object hovering just beyond the wall of open windows. It was a
> few hundred feet away, and there was no noise at all, no engine sound. It
> looked like the classic space ship. It hovered for a good 5 minutes and then
> flew off at top speed. Everyone saw it and stopped eating while it was
> there. They have no doubt that they all saw this - and if it was not alien,
> it was some advanced technology that we still have no public knowledge of.
>  
> A friend of mine who's now on Purusha had an experience like that on his TTC
> in Zinal, Switzerland. The story is at the end of this post, which I wrote 6
> years ago:
>  
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/17946
>  
> Now, I'd like to introduce the topic of extraterrestrials and see if we go
> anywhere with it. I understand that Rory discusses this in his on-line
> autobiography. I haven't read that part yet but neither have most of you.
>  
> Here's my take on the subject, my opinions having been formed by reading
> many books, seeing videos, gut feelings, private conversations with LB
> Shriver (just kidding!), etc.:
>  
> Infinite intelligence is omnipresent and omnipotent. It's "potency" is its
> impulse to express itself as fully as it can in every circumstance.
> Therefore, the universe is teeming with life at all stages of development.
> There are countless highly evolved civilizations in every galaxy. The Earth
> has been visited throughout history by representatives of many of these
> civilizations and is still being visited.
>  
> Many reputable people have seen them in one form or another
> (http://www.disclosureproject.org/). They don't "land on the White House
> lawn" because we're not ready for that. Most people would freak out. They're
> functioning from a very subtle level of intelligence and are quite capable
> of gauging the impact of their actions on mass psychology. They're also very
> patient and are not in a hurry to introduce themselves. Their craft are
> capable of interstellar travel in reasonable time frames by technologies
> which circumvent the limitations of the speed of light. Some of them can
> also traverse creation from gross to subtle, and therefore may not always be
> visible to ordinary perception.
>  
> Some have an agenda which includes helping the planet evolve spiritually,
> but like gurus, they have to let us do our own spiritual work. They have
> intervened when we've come too close to destroying ourselves. When we have
> advanced sufficiently and proven ourselves worthy, our civilization will be
> admitted to some sort of galactic federation.
>  
> Some alien abductions are real. I haven't a clue what cattle mutilations are
> all about. Evil aliens? I don't know. But they happen often, around the
> world, and no one can explain them.
>  
> Don't know about crop circles. Really nice ones have been faked. Not all
> have been explained away.
>  
> I'll end with a story. On his TM TTC in Zinal, Switzerland, Sandy Tipton,
> who's on Purusha, was doing asanas on his floor one morning. He looked out
> the window and saw a disk shaped UFO hovering near the side of a high cliff
> not far from the hotel. He sat by the window and watched it for quite a
> while as it moved around a bit. As bright daylight dawned, it flew away.
> That morning some people were talking about it at breakfast. When MMY came
> to the lecture hall, the first thing he asked was, "How many woke up early
> this morning?" Some people raised their hands. Then he asked, "How many
> looked out the window?" Hands raised. Then he chuckled and went on with the
> meeting.

Most of what is written here is correct except for the socalled "abductions". 
This is a result of human "glamour" and astral fantasy. I'm not saying it never 
happened by some aliens from very far away but that these few inscidents are 
grossly exaggerated.

Regarding the increasing numbers of seen visitations; it's not that they are 
here more often now than before but simply that they allow more people to see 
them. They will also respond to your thoughts, not words, as if encouraging us 
to further develop our telepathic abilities. This has become very evident when 
people watch the new star as they are responding to peoples desire

[FairfieldLife] Dueling high school YouTube videos

[TurquoiseB]

Whatever you think of Rachel Maddow, this clip rocks.
In it, she details the challenge from one Seattle high
school to their cross-town rival to create a music video.

The first high school produced a wonderful one-take video
that involved hundreds of students lip-synching to a song 
by Outcast. The other high school responded by doing the 
same thing, to a song by Hall and Oates.

Hall and Oates, you say? How can that whup the ass of a
similar lip-synch video made to an Outcast song? Well,
it helps if you film and lip-synch the whole thing
*backwards*. Has to be seen to be believed. These are
some seriously creative high school kids:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/34557327#34557327

[FairfieldLife] Re: YouTube - Dr. Steven Greer presents "Contact & Disclosure: The Final Sequenc

[TurquoiseB]

I didn't bother to watch the video because I have
zero interest in UFOs. But I'll reply because I
love it when wayback71 posts because on the rare
ccasions when she does she always presents the 
thing that is missing from FFL the most -- balance.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71"  wrote:
>
> Bottom line for me is that I would not be at all surprised 
> to find aliens have been flying about earth for some time 
> now, and that they can help us when we are ready for it.  

I would not be surprised either, statistically. As
for your last phrase, however, I think a simple 
step-back-and-look-at-it-critically read of FFL
should reveal whether or not we "are ready for it."
If *you* were an alien, would you bother to help a
species that turns a supposedly spiritual discussion
group into nothing more than an excuse to argue and
provoke ego-battles? To "help" planet Earth at this 
point would be to help overweight egos to become
more overweight. 

> Good point.  What he has going for him is that everyone is 
> intrigued by the idea of aliens and alien contact.  

Not everyone. :-) I consider it irrelevant to my 
life in all respects. Furthermore, I consider the
ongoing fascination with "aliens" and "space
brothers" and wanting them to come and "help" us
to be in the exact same ballpark as those who 
spend their lives waiting for Santa Claus or Daddy
or some guru or messiah or avatar to come along and
"help" them, spiritually or physically. It's a form 
of "displaced responsibility" that I tend to call 
Beam Me Up Scotty Syndrome.

"Scotty," should one exist and be as wise and all-
knowing as they assume, just wouldn't help anyone
who is sitting around on their ass waiting for
someone ELSE to solve the world's problems for him.

> My brother and his family and several friends were vacationing 
> in Costa Rico about 17 years ago.  They were sitting in a 
> restaurant with their children and many other patrons.  The 
> place had a long wall of large open windows that looked out 
> over a cliff and deep valley below. The waether was warm so 
> it was basically open air dining. During dinner everyone 
> suddenly noticed a large round object  hovering just beyond 
> the wall of open windows.  It was a few hundred feet away, 
> and there was no noise at all, no engine sound. It looked 
> like the classic space ship.  It hovered for a good 5  
> minutes and then flew off at top speed.  Everyone saw it 
> and stopped eating while it was there.  They have no doubt 
> that they all saw this - and if it was not alien, it was some 
> advanced technology that we still have no public knowledge of.

I comment on your brother's experience not to dump
on it or "explain it away" or point to it and say 
"See...the space brothers *do* exist you idiots...
I am right and you are all WRONG!" like Nabby might 
do. I'll just make two points.

The first is that I have met many people who saw
*something* in the sky and just assumed (because 
that's how Earthlings think) that it was some kind
of *technology* that they saw. When pressed, they
all admitted that what they saw could just as easily
have been some form of light or "subtle body exper-
ience." If, for example, one encountered a being
without a physical body and with only a subtle body,
how would most Earthlings interpret that? Well, they
would consider it a "spaceship" because they have
no intellectual framework for understanding subtle
bodies. 

The second, however, is to pass along to your brother
through you how LUCKY he is to have had an experience
like this. And by "like this" I mean a subjective
experience that he can *never prove the truth of*,
but that he is willing to talk about *as* an exper-
ience. That in my opinion is a fascinating opportunity,
and one that can shift the perceiver to a new level of
perception and self-acceptance.

Take levitation. I've seen it...hundreds of times. I
have never claimed to know *what* exactly it was that
I saw hundreds of times, only that I saw it. It really
doesn't matter to me at all whether what I saw was
"real levitation" and would have been captured by video
cameras or whether it was some projected consciousness
or mass hallucination event. Doesn't matter a bit. ALL
that matters is that I'm willing to stand up and say,
"This was my subjective experience. I do not under-
stand it and make no claims as to what it 'really was,'
but I will not *deny* having experienced it just because
me talking about it makes you uncomfortable or jealous."

Look at Shemp. He is so apoplectic that I have had the
subjective experience of witnessing levitation -- and
hundreds of times, no less -- and that *he hasn't* 
that he's spent dozens of posts over the years harbor-
ing a grudge at me and trying to demonize me over it.
And it's all nothing but pure JEALOUSY on his part.
He spent thirty or more years in spiritual pursuits
and saw and experienced diddleysquat. And it really
*burns* his ass that others had experiences he didn't.
So he was