[FairfieldLife] Dear fellow TM-siddhas, what could not be attained? :D
yadi nityam anityena nirmalaM malavaahinaa yashaH kaayena labhyeta, tan na labdhaM bhaven nu kim? If immaculate and eternal fame can be attained with a perishable, tainted body, then what else could not be attained? yadi(if) nityam (eternal) anityena (with a perishable) nirmalaM (immaculate) malavaahinaa ([with a] tainted) yashaH (fame) kaayena ([with a] body) labhyeta (can be attained), tan* (tat: then?) na (not) labdhaM (attained) bhaven* (bhavet: could be) nu kim? (now what?). -- Hitopadesha (Friendly advice), On how to win friends * 't' before 'n' and 'm' changes to 'n'
[FairfieldLife] MILF Heaven
Claudia Schiffer joins the ranks of Demi Moore and Angelina Jolie in proving that beautiful women get even more beautiful when they are pregnant in a recent photo essay for German Vogue at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/13/claudia-schiffers-many-ed_n_574\ 757.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/13/claudia-schiffers-many-ed_n_57\ 4757.html Perhaps they also get more spiritual. My favorite in the set of photos is this one of Claudia as a pregnant nun:
[FairfieldLife] Priorities as a measure of one's susceptibility to spiritual claims
It has been said, and with some possible accuracy given the percentage of people drawn to spiritual pursuits on this planet compared to the percentage that are not, that the determining factor is predilection, or one's innate priorities in life. I'm thinkin' that of the people in this photo, the guy is the most likely candidate for the TM movement, in which cupcakes are considered on the program, but lesbian make-out sessions are not. [Must be one helluva cupcake. girls making out, sexy, dude look, cupcake] http://www.collegehumor.com/picture:1937872 http://www.collegehumor.com/picture:1937872
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh tell me great one of Jyotish!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: It's rubbish. Your understanding and speculations as to what jyotish is, from afar, or actual jytotish as practice by a knowledgable and long experience jyotishee? No need, there isn't any evidence it does work, no physical model it could work on (quite the opposite as I point out) so I don't need to study astrology I just need to see if there is any sort of signal among the noise and I've never seen one. BTW I learned how to draw up horoscopes a long time ago. The maths really is rubbish. The earth really isn't the centre of the solar system, sorry if I broke that to you too harshly. An iron age hangover that people cling to for comfort, so much easier to blame the stars, who is blaming stars? Stars planets, whatever. karma etc than take responsibility or to face the awful truth that life is a bitch And what studies are you citing to draw that conclusion? What??!!! Do you mean you are drawing working hypotheses about your life that seem to work on a practical basis, but you have absolutely no scientific / statistical evidence that such models are valid!!? What a throw back to the middle ages -- :) and shit just happens on a pretty regular basis. Again, citations please. What journal are you quoting? They don't even use the right number of planets in the charts because the ancients didn't know that some were beyond the range of the naked eye, And their system didn't take into account the existence of the New York Yankees! OMG! But why would that be relevant? If I develop some system that works and it doesn't use some things that you personally think should be in my model, why in heavens name does that, in itself, invalidate the model that I have developed? Interesting, some serious denial going on here. I am quire open to the possibility that jyotish is baseless. I don't see denial -- but perhaps I am blind. But, in jesting about, I found your arguments not critiquing actual jyotish, but some imaginary jyotish you appear to have in your head. I find that amusing -- and figured you might see some of the humor -- you have exhibited a refined and cultured wit in your prior posts. Sorry old chap, sometimes I can't tell if people are jesting about. But I thought some of my replies were rather witty, I sense you are sensitive about the subject and are trying to cover an over-reaction. Am I right? Hmmm. It always happens with stuff on here, all these deeply held beliefs that we should be sensitive of. I do take the position that Marshy claims all this stuff is a science and is therefore open to criticism. My ideas of jyotish come from the TMO and my experiences with western astrology, they are much of a muchness and all very insubstantial when it comes to pinning them down. Did you look at the link Shukra (?) posted and thought was rather good, I had a read and checked the predictions for last year - Unrest in the middle east! Phew that's going out on a limb isn't it. I could go on about how could a system work for countries as well as people but it just underlines the difference between good science and bad. One answers many questions the other just raises more of them. Most pertinent of which is why doesn't it work? I will though finally say that I consider all types of jyotish are imaginary at least until someone proves otherwise! Perhaps we'd get a better conversation going if you'd explain what you think jyotish is and how you think it works if it differs so much from the view that it's somehow connected to planets moving about? I'm actually off on holiday for a week so don't expect an immediate reply. I just hope the omens are good and the planets guarantee me a safe journey ;-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh tell me great one of Jyotish!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba carc108@ wrote: Curious to know what people think here about Jyotish and the art of telling of this subject. No one has to explain the subject that the sun is up there, and the moon too and the other planets hovering about, being on the inner and outer of life as the same, or the placements, etc. Please do give any opinion or knowing of experiences with Jyotishi's. Good or bad. What about the delivery of the subject in these modern times? Experiences from skeptics, knowers are appreciated on this subject. Please tell, oh great one!..? Jyotish is a very technical subject, although a good intuitive sense is needed to interpret the planetary positions, qualities and relationships. The fact that it's a technical subject doesn't mean there is anything to it on a day-to-day useful level. In fact jyotish is far more complex tahn it needs to be beacuse when the charts were first formulted they didn't know the earth was round or that it and the plantets went round the sun, in eliptical orbits. The maths astrologers have to use to compensate for those understandable errors is horrendous but to stop using it is to admit that the earth isn;t the middle of the universe and that if a field effect is responsible (which is what *is* proposed Which volume of the Official Jyotish Docttrine is this in? :) John Hagelins'. Hard to see how they could affect us if it wasn't by some sort of field. What else could the connection be? At the risk of mixing too many metaphors, my watch predicts when the sun will rise. Where is the connection? Is my watch causing the sun to rise. Is the sun causing my watch to tick? No, Yet you insist on only looking for a causative model. A point Judy I think was making -- many things can be correlated and useful for predictive purposes but have no causal effect, A on B or B on A. The watch is correlated with the rising of the sun -- but hardly causes it. In a somewhat parallel way, the clock in the planets don't in ANY way create our karma. We do that. (or did it). The emergence of events in our lives, something we created, may be correlated to various clocks. Its not really such a hard concept. It's an easy concept, the point is - there is no physical connection between us and planets so how could they be used as a guide? The only way would be some sort of field, and gravity is the only one that is infinite in extent and there are many reasons why it couldn't be responsible. Jyotish - the science of light. Are they implying that it's the light from planets and stars that affects us? That's the claim from shukras site and it's the reason (they claim) that the outer planets aren't relevant. All a bit *convenient* I say. It also menas there could be a black hole in the solar system and it would affect us astrologically. No, it doesn't work. its amusing ow insistent you appear in critiquing a totally bogus concept, and claiming you are critiquing (actual) jyotish -- or at least the one I am familiar with.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Aspiration
SUPER FREAK... She's Super Freaky! Alex, you're a true spiritual aspirant. You remind me of the saint taken down a road who had a dead decaying dog pointed out to him and he admired the beautiful white teeth. From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 6:12:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Aspiration --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: A real disappointment for those with a foot fetish! But, an incredible find for those with an amputee fetish. From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 11:56:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Spiritual Aspiration  What's your excuse? http://www.totalprosports.com/2010/05/12/picture-of-the-day-need-some-inspiration/ , if the graphic does not appear.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Aspiration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: SUPER FREAK... She's Super Freaky! Alex, you're a true spiritual aspirant. You remind me of the saint taken down a road who had a dead decaying dog pointed out to him and he admired the beautiful white teeth. From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 6:12:54 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Aspiration  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote: A real disappointment for those with a foot fetish! But, an incredible find for those with an amputee fetish. From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 11:56:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Spiritual Aspiration àWhat's your excuse? http://www.totalprosports.com/2010/05/12/picture-of-the-day-need-some-inspiration/à, if the graphic does not appear. Dear FFL Moderators, Turq is heckling an otherwise spiritual community here with this pornography. His posting of this material must certainly be in violation of the spiritual FFL guidelines here for moral standard. Yes, its a good example of both what you can do with plow shears in peace but also attempting licentious inflammation of the lower passions. Does he post here the modest running/ seat-suit version or the nearly naked one for him to leer at? No, he goes for the sensational shocking sensuous one to drop here. What was the point he really wanted to call attention to? To disrupt spiritual energies with titillating spiritual pornography. It's clearly a cultivated bad character tendency in the author, ...to draw that kind of admiration. It is not only sinful to bestow lustful glances, but it is equally wrong willfully to awaken sex thoughts in the opposite sex, and also to feel flattered by such attentions. This is about the core nature of FFL and particularly is about standards of spiritual decency and progress. Moderators, moderate this outlaw. Sincerely, -Buck in FF
[FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
Perhaps you could share a link with me? I don't think I've come across anyone every saying what I'm saying below -- the concept of the night sky being a personal diary. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Don't bother copyrighting as the subject has been tackled by many authors. BTW, did you know that Kepler's gig was creating charts for astrologers to use? It wasn't about plotting courses for safe traveling of ships. Some day human beings may evolve where they understand the larger cycles of nature and how they express themselves in society than they do today. Some astrologers believe that every time we go through heavy sunspot cycles society goes a bit nuts. Duveyoung wrote: I like the following idea so much I'm copyrighting this piece. I haven't been all that scholarly, but I'm convinced I'm being original and that the below is a new idea. Er, I hope. Copyright Edg Duveyoung 2010 One fact keeps banging on my door. 200,000 years ago, the modern human brain evolved. They were as smart as us, and that means 1% of them had Einstein level acuity...190,000 years before the oldest scriptures. With no TV et al, what did the ancients have for night time conversations? Think about it. It was the stars. And for those who would say, Oh, so they saw some animals in the sky, no big deal. I would ask, Do you really think Einstein would be satisfied with animal tales? Do you think anyone could tell Old Albertgrok that a certain star in the sky caused a certain person's personality to be a certain way? Nah, that would be jarring to a modern brain's logic and common sense, and back then too. The precision of their measurements as proved by the various astronomical artifacts they created, is only the BEGINNING of their ken. Here's my theory: They used the stars as their personal diary. How so? The cave paintings at Lascaux give a clue. The configuration of the animals were PERFECT star charts -- the tips of the bison's horns being EXACTLY where they should be. How exact? If you made the cave's rock walls transparent, the tips of the bison's horns would be on top of, align with the bigger-brighter stars, and so too the other key-points of the cave's artwork would PRECISELY align with the night sky also. That's a huge intellectual feat, but it's only the beginning. One has to ask why the geniuses back then went to all that trouble. To predict the growing season or when the bison herds would return seem to me to be painfully trivial and not anywhere near the level of importance in those ancient minds that it would take to motivate the cave paintings which required a tremendous amount of recreational time to be expended. Note that it would be EASY for even a normally intelligent ancient to say, When the sun comes up directly over that mountain top, that's when the planting season begins. There's all the precision one needs. One sees the sun coming up every day slightly nudged over a bit, and the moon as if adds accents to each day's presentation, and then the stars are the matrix-background against which the sun and moon are compared. It didn't take a Stonehenge to know when to plant the seeds. It didn't take a cave painting either. So why did they go to all that trouble? Stonehenge? Give me a break -- that's way too much trouble to tell when to plant a seed. And, hey, they didn't even plant seeds until 10,000 years ago, and I'm theorizing on what the stars meant to them before agriculture. So, diary, what can I mean by that? To me the following concept is big enough and valuable enough to motivate a cave person to get his tribe to build Stonehenge. First note that the human mind is DNA deep when it comes to projection. We simply can see the contents of our mind out there in a direct manner. That's our beauty.we naturally see ourselves everywhere. Consider this -- if you're my age, you know where you were when JFK was shot, or when Neil planted his boot on the moon, or whatever. Do you see that you've got a dog-eared page in your own personal diary via that notation? A singularly precise moment in time is given an asterisk by you. When JFK got shot I was __. Everyone my age can fill that blank. And any moment that is important to one can be thusly dog-eared. Well, if you were sitting around a campfire with a giant brain, don't you think you could as easily say, When the bison's horn tip hit that mountain's top, I was born. Direct, simple, true, and practically valuable. Cave Father: That bison's star was on that mountain's top and then moved on to where we see it tonight -- a full hand span away from the mountain's top now. I am a handspan old. Cave Son: When was I born? Cave
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh tell me great one of Jyotish!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: It's rubbish. Your understanding and speculations as to what jyotish is, from afar, or actual jytotish as practice by a knowledgable and long experience jyotishee? No need, there isn't any evidence it does work, no physical model it could work on (quite the opposite as I point out) so I don't need to study astrology I just need to see if there is any sort of signal among the noise and I've never seen one. BTW I learned how to draw up horoscopes a long time ago. The maths really is rubbish. The earth really isn't the centre of the solar system, sorry if I broke that to you too harshly. An iron age hangover that people cling to for comfort, so much easier to blame the stars, who is blaming stars? Stars planets, whatever. karma etc than take responsibility or to face the awful truth that life is a bitch And what studies are you citing to draw that conclusion? What??!!! Do you mean you are drawing working hypotheses about your life that seem to work on a practical basis, but you have absolutely no scientific / statistical evidence that such models are valid!!? What a throw back to the middle ages -- :) and shit just happens on a pretty regular basis. Again, citations please. What journal are you quoting? They don't even use the right number of planets in the charts because the ancients didn't know that some were beyond the range of the naked eye, And their system didn't take into account the existence of the New York Yankees! OMG! But why would that be relevant? If I develop some system that works and it doesn't use some things that you personally think should be in my model, why in heavens name does that, in itself, invalidate the model that I have developed? Interesting, some serious denial going on here. I am quire open to the possibility that jyotish is baseless. I don't see denial -- but perhaps I am blind. But, in jesting about, I found your arguments not critiquing actual jyotish, but some imaginary jyotish you appear to have in your head. I find that amusing -- and figured you might see some of the humor -- you have exhibited a refined and cultured wit in your prior posts. Sorry old chap, sometimes I can't tell if people are jesting about. But I thought some of my replies were rather witty, I sense you are sensitive about the subject and are trying to cover an over-reaction. Am I right? Hmmm. Yes, I was trying to cover up my laughter. Not at you per se -- I like your posts. But rather at a type of argument I see occasionally -- about jyotish -- but the them can be applied to other areas too. And I suppose I may be a bit giddy at my apparent inability to convey some fairly simple concepts. But I do get that my attitude and mirthiness on the issue could come across in print in a several ways. Some quite at odds with my inner flow on the topic. It always happens with stuff on here, all these deeply held beliefs I wouldn't characterize my being intrigued with some uncanny results I have seen in jyotish, along with deep skepticism, as anything parallel to a belief. that we should be sensitive of. I do take the position that Marshy claims all this stuff is a science and is therefore open to criticism. My view of jyotish has almost nothing to do with M. or TMO. My ideas of jyotish come from the TMO and my experiences with western astrology, they are much of a muchness and all very insubstantial when it comes to pinning them down. That may be a key distinction. I agree with the massive mushiness of mnay jyotish folks. But I am not relying on them. I base my views on my independent study and analysis of my own chart and a few others (hardly a reasonable sample size -- but still some very interesting data points.) Did you look at the link Shukra (?) posted and thought was rather good, I had a read and checked the predictions for last year - Unrest in the middle east! Phew that's going out on a limb isn't it. See thats one of our disconnects. Predicting worl events is a small branch of jyotish -- and not at all the branches I am referring too. You and Turquoise seem more fixated on this small branch -- which is often ibhabitied by charlatan types. I could go on about how could a system work for countries as well as people but it just underlines the difference between good science and bad. Thats why I have little
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Aspiration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote: snip Dear FFL Moderators, Turq is heckling an otherwise spiritual community here with this pornography. Pornography? Jeez, Buck, use some common sense and pick your battles. That post and the two Barry made this morning were crude efforts to provoke a negative reaction, not to titillate. It's like a third-grader using a four-letter word. The intellectual poverty that motivates such attempts is pathetically obvious, as is the pretense of the stated reasons for the posts. Everybody here realizes what he's trying to do. If you want him to get moderated for posting pornography, don't react to these lesser provocations. If he doesn't get the reaction he's looking for, he'll escalate them until he crosses the line.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh tell me great one of Jyotish!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: snip John Hagelins'. Hard to see how they could affect us if it wasn't by some sort of field. What else could the connection be? At the risk of mixing too many metaphors, my watch predicts when the sun will rise. Where is the connection? Is my watch causing the sun to rise. Is the sun causing my watch to tick? No, Yet you insist on only looking for a causative model. A point Judy I think was making -- many things can be correlated and useful for predictive purposes but have no causal effect, A on B or B on A. The watch is correlated with the rising of the sun -- but hardly causes it. In a somewhat parallel way, the clock in the planets don't in ANY way create our karma. We do that. (or did it). The emergence of events in our lives, something we created, may be correlated to various clocks. Its not really such a hard concept. It's an easy concept, the point is - there is no physical connection between us and planets so how could they be used as a guide? The only way would be some sort of field, and gravity is the only one that is infinite in extent and there are many reasons why it couldn't be responsible. You've got a real blind spot here, Hugo. Take a different analogy: I can predict that when the sun reaches a certain point in the sky, I'm going to begin to feel hungry. There's no physical connection between the sun and my stomach, so how can the sun be used as a guide to my hunger pangs? For that matter, I can predict where the sun will be when I start feeling hunger pangs. Jyotish - the science of light. Are they implying that it's the light from planets and stars that affects us? That's the claim from shukras site and it's the reason (they claim) that the outer planets aren't relevant. The light in question is what reaches our eyes. It's what we're able to *see* that is said to be correlated with events. All a bit *convenient* I say. Not if that's how the system was conceptualized and designed to start with! I can't quickly find the claim you cite on shukra's site. I do know that Western astrologers use cause-and-effect language, but if you inquire, they (or at least some of them) will say it's really just correlation, and they use cause-and-effect language because it's quick and easy and more varied. It also menas there could be a black hole in the solar system and it would affect us astrologically. No, it doesn't work. A black hole wouldn't be correlated with anything, because we can't see it. Again: the system of correlations is based on what the sky *looks like* to the naked eye. its amusing ow insistent you appear in critiquing a totally bogus concept, and claiming you are critiquing (actual) jyotish -- or at least the one I am familiar with. The question is whether the postulated correlations exist, not whether the model of the solar system and stars is scientifically accurate, or whether any actual physical force is exerted. The latter have nothing to do with the former. Hugo still hasn't gotten that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Aspiration
I am mainly ignoring Buck since he's gone all wannabe spiritual teacher on us, but this one just screams for a reply, so here is one. Dear FFL Moderators, Turq is heckling an otherwise spiritual community here with this pornography. His posting of this material must certainly be in violation of the spiritual FFL guidelines here for moral standard. Now let me get this straight... Buck thinks that a photo of a woman running along a beach wearing a bikini is pornographic. Did I get that right? Now if it had been a woman running along a beach *in Spain* he might have had a reason to complain, because chances are she would be topless. Legally topless, given the Spanish Constitution, but topless nonetheless, and in prudish America, possibly an offense to some. But wearing a *bikini* ? One has to wonder how long it has been since Buck has been to the beach. But wait...maybe it *wasn't* the bikini-clad young woman that Buck found pornographic. Perhaps instead it was the fact that *in order to* run along the beach, she has had to overcome a disability and be fitted with prosthetic limbs to replace the two feet she obviously lost somewhere along the way. Is *THAT* the definition of pornography that Buck is invoking? Does he find people in wheelchairs pornographic? Would he consider a woman wearing a bikini in a wheelchair pornographic? The mind boggleth. Yes, its a good example of both what you can do with plow shears in peace... Which was the whole POINT. Both on the website that orig- inally posted the photo, and for me posting it here. This woman has *aspiration*. She didn't allow a little thing like losing both feet to keep her from running. Now THAT is aspiration IMO. ...but also attempting licentious inflammation of the lower passions. Again, one has to wonder what inflamed the lower passions in Buck when he saw this photo. Was it the woman in the bikini? Or was it the prosthetic limbs that enabled her to run? If the former, I suggest he needs to get out more. If the latter tends to inflame his passions, I suggest he may need to stay in more. Who *knows* what amputee is next going to inflame his passions. Does he post here the modest running/ seat-suit version or the nearly naked one for him to leer at? Just so we're clear on Buck and his definition of both nearly naked and pornography, here is the photo I posted again: [http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Need-Some-Insp\ iration.jpg] Before he gets the Moderators to kick me off of Fairfield Life, I'd like Buck to explain his use of *both* the term nearly naked and pornographic with regard to this photo. From my perspective, the woman is wearing a bikini. Yes, the bottom half of it is a kind of a *thong* bikini, and the top half of it is a more of a body wrap rather than one of those contriv- ances with built-in push-up bras, but hey! my sensibilities have been somewhat conditioned by Spain. This is a *normal* bathing suit on Spanish beaches. Except for her wearing the top, of course. :-) No, he goes for the sensational shocking sensuous one to drop here. What was the point he really wanted to call attention to? To disrupt spiritual energies with titillating spiritual pornography. Could he possibly have been curious whether there was anyone here so prudish and repressed that they would find this photo offensive, rather than uplifting? If so, I suggest he has succeeded. It's clearly a cultivated bad character tendency in the author, ... to draw that kind of admiration. It is not only sinful to bestow lustful glances, but it is equally wrong willfully to awaken sex thoughts in the opposite sex, and also to feel flattered by such attentions. Now I begin to understand why Buck admires the reclusive spiritual communities of the 1700s and 1800s. His sensibilities would be at home there. In this world, he feels -- and obviously acts -- out of place. Buck, if you really feel that it is sinful to awaken sex thoughts in the opposite sex, cut your dick off. Given your 'tude, it is not *likely* that it's large enough to create a bulge in your pants that would awaken sex thoughts in the opposite sex (or even the same sex), but you really shouldn't take any chances. Avoid even the *possibility* of sinning. Cut that penis off today. This is about the core nature of FFL and particularly is about standards of spiritual decency and progress. Moderators, moderate this outlaw. This is about someone with major hangups about sex and sexuality attempting to impose them on others. End of story.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh tell me great one of Jyotish!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodle...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba carc108@ wrote: Curious to know what people think here about Jyotish and the art of telling of this subject. No one has to explain the subject that the sun is up there, and the moon too and the other planets hovering about, being on the inner and outer of life as the same, or the placements, etc. Please do give any opinion or knowing of experiences with Jyotishi's. Good or bad. What about the delivery of the subject in these modern times? Experiences from skeptics, knowers are appreciated on this subject. Please tell, oh great one!..? Jyotish is a very technical subject, although a good intuitive sense is needed to interpret the planetary positions, qualities and relationships. The fact that it's a technical subject doesn't mean there is anything to it on a day-to-day useful level. In fact jyotish is far more complex tahn it needs to be beacuse when the charts were first formulted they didn't know the earth was round or that it and the plantets went round the sun, in eliptical orbits. The maths astrologers have to use to compensate for those understandable errors is horrendous but to stop using it is to admit that the earth isn;t the middle of the universe and that if a field effect is responsible (which is what *is* proposed Which volume of the Official Jyotish Docttrine is this in? :) John Hagelins'. Hard to see how they could affect us if it wasn't by some sort of field. What else could the connection be? At the risk of mixing too many metaphors, my watch predicts when the sun will rise. Where is the connection? Is my watch causing the sun to rise. Is the sun causing my watch to tick? No, Yet you insist on only looking for a causative model. A point Judy I think was making -- many things can be correlated and useful for predictive purposes but have no causal effect, A on B or B on A. The watch is correlated with the rising of the sun -- but hardly causes it. In a somewhat parallel way, the clock in the planets don't in ANY way create our karma. We do that. (or did it). The emergence of events in our lives, something we created, may be correlated to various clocks. Its not really such a hard concept. It's an easy concept, the point is - there is no physical connection between us and planets so how could they be used as a guide? Just as there is no physical connection between the clock and the rising sun. Why those charlatan swiss claock makers!!! How dare they claim their clocks can predict the rising sun. No physical connection therefore it must be rubbish. Anyone who wears a watch is a simpleton, neanderthal, throwback to the dark ages. We rational clear seeing ones in this modern scientific age clearly see the folly of watches and clocks. The only way would be some sort of field, and gravity I know! And since my watch creates such a small field effect, how could it possibly make the sun rise!!! Those swiss clockmaking charlatans are making such laughable outrageous claims. There is NO other possibility. My view is complete and comprehensive. Clocks clearly are mystical balderdash! is the only one that is infinite in extent and there are many reasons why it couldn't be responsible. Until you get off this causal effect thing, you will never see any other possibility. Jyotish - the science of light. Are they implying that it's the light from planets and stars that affects us? No not at all. Its the light of jyotish within. A type of enlightenment that true jyotishees obtain. But that too sounds mystical. Its like the light inside Einstein's head that enabled him to see clearly. That's the claim from shukras site and it's the reason (they claim) that the outer planets aren't relevant. All a bit *convenient* I say. If I make a clock that works, and it doesn't contain some spring or pieces YOU think it MUST have, that doesn't invalidate the clock working. You appear to impose so many Musts and Shoulds on everything. Sometimes the world world in ways that are outside our small vision of how the world SHOULD and MUST work. It also menas there could be a black hole in the solar system and it would affect us astrologically. No, it doesn't work. And why shoulD it , neither the planets nor
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh tell me great one of Jyotish!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo fintlewoodlewix@ wrote: snip John Hagelins'. Hard to see how they could affect us if it wasn't by some sort of field. What else could the connection be? At the risk of mixing too many metaphors, my watch predicts when the sun will rise. Where is the connection? Is my watch causing the sun to rise. Is the sun causing my watch to tick? No, Yet you insist on only looking for a causative model. A point Judy I think was making -- many things can be correlated and useful for predictive purposes but have no causal effect, A on B or B on A. The watch is correlated with the rising of the sun -- but hardly causes it. In a somewhat parallel way, the clock in the planets don't in ANY way create our karma. We do that. (or did it). The emergence of events in our lives, something we created, may be correlated to various clocks. Its not really such a hard concept. It's an easy concept, the point is - there is no physical connection between us and planets so how could they be used as a guide? The only way would be some sort of field, and gravity is the only one that is infinite in extent and there are many reasons why it couldn't be responsible. You've got a real blind spot here, Hugo. Take a different analogy: I can predict that when the sun reaches a certain point in the sky, I'm going to begin to feel hungry. There's no physical connection between the sun and my stomach, so how can the sun be used as a guide to my hunger pangs? For that matter, I can predict where the sun will be when I start feeling hunger pangs. Jyotish - the science of light. Are they implying that it's the light from planets and stars that affects us? That's the claim from shukras site and it's the reason (they claim) that the outer planets aren't relevant. The light in question is what reaches our eyes. It's what we're able to *see* that is said to be correlated with events. All a bit *convenient* I say. Not if that's how the system was conceptualized and designed to start with! I can't quickly find the claim you cite on shukra's site. I do know that Western astrologers use cause-and-effect language, but if you inquire, they (or at least some of them) will say it's really just correlation, and they use cause-and-effect language because it's quick and easy and more varied. It also menas there could be a black hole in the solar system and it would affect us astrologically. No, it doesn't work. A black hole wouldn't be correlated with anything, because we can't see it. Again: the system of correlations is based on what the sky *looks like* to the naked eye. its amusing ow insistent you appear in critiquing a totally bogus concept, and claiming you are critiquing (actual) jyotish -- or at least the one I am familiar with. The question is whether the postulated correlations exist, not whether the model of the solar system and stars is scientifically accurate, or whether any actual physical force is exerted. The latter have nothing to do with the former. Hugo still hasn't gotten that. Yes. That is what is amusing here (to my warped tastes). Hugo is clearly a smart, learned fellow. To see him dance around this blind spot, so extensively, is a cautionary tale for all of us: What blind spots am I dancing around in other areas of my life!?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Aspiration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: I am mainly ignoring Buck since he's gone all wannabe spiritual teacher on us, but this one just screams for a reply, so here is one. Dear FFL Moderators, Turq is heckling an otherwise spiritual community here with this pornography. His posting of this material must certainly be in violation of the spiritual FFL guidelines here for moral standard. Now let me get this straight... Buck thinks that a photo of a woman running along a beach wearing a bikini is pornographic. Did I get that right? Now if it had been a woman running along a beach *in Spain* he might have had a reason to complain, because chances are she would be topless. Legally topless, given the Spanish Constitution, but topless nonetheless, and in prudish America, possibly an offense to some. We have had legal topless beaches in the US for 50 some years and probably much longer -- back when Spain was under Franco and the Churches thumb. Spain I am sure is wonderful, I liked the limited time I spent there -- but they are sort of new guests at the party. But wearing a *bikini* ? One has to wonder how long it has been since Buck has been to the beach. Iowa is not known for its pristine beaches. But don't people bath nude at the lakes and resevoirs around FF? But wait...maybe it *wasn't* the bikini-clad young woman that Buck found pornographic. Perhaps instead it was the fact that *in order to* run along the beach, she has had to overcome a disability and be fitted with prosthetic limbs to replace the two feet she obviously lost somewhere along the way. Is *THAT* the definition of pornography that Buck is invoking? Does he find people in wheelchairs pornographic? Would he consider a woman wearing a bikini in a wheelchair pornographic? The mind boggleth. Yes, its a good example of both what you can do with plow shears in peace... Which was the whole POINT. Both on the website that orig- inally posted the photo, and for me posting it here. This woman has *aspiration*. She didn't allow a little thing like losing both feet to keep her from running. Now THAT is aspiration IMO. ...but also attempting licentious inflammation of the lower passions. Again, one has to wonder what inflamed the lower passions in Buck when he saw this photo. Was it the woman in the bikini? Or was it the prosthetic limbs that enabled her to run? I sense Buck is mocking religious conservatism -- but I don't know him. If the former, I suggest he needs to get out more. If the latter tends to inflame his passions, I suggest he may need to stay in more. Who *knows* what amputee is next going to inflame his passions. Does he post here the modest running/ seat-suit version or the nearly naked one for him to leer at? Just so we're clear on Buck and his definition of both nearly naked and pornography, here is the photo I posted again: [http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Need-Some-Insp\ iration.jpg] Before he gets the Moderators to kick me off of Fairfield Life, I'd like Buck to explain his use of *both* the term nearly naked and pornographic with regard to this photo. From my perspective, the woman is wearing a bikini. Yes, the bottom half of it is a kind of a *thong* bikini, and the top half of it is a more of a body wrap rather than one of those contriv- ances with built-in push-up bras, but hey! my sensibilities have been somewhat conditioned by Spain. This is a *normal* bathing suit on Spanish beaches. Except for her wearing the top, of course. :-) No, he goes for the sensational shocking sensuous one to drop here. What was the point he really wanted to call attention to? To disrupt spiritual energies with titillating spiritual pornography. Could he possibly have been curious whether there was anyone here so prudish and repressed that they would find this photo offensive, rather than uplifting? If so, I suggest he has succeeded. It's clearly a cultivated bad character tendency in the author, ... to draw that kind of admiration. It is not only sinful to bestow lustful glances, but it is equally wrong willfully to awaken sex thoughts in the opposite sex, and also to feel flattered by such attentions. Now I begin to understand why Buck admires the reclusive spiritual communities of the 1700s and 1800s. His sensibilities would be at home there. In this world, he feels -- and obviously acts -- out of place. Buck, if you really feel that it is sinful to awaken sex thoughts in the opposite sex, cut your dick off. Given your 'tude, it is not *likely* that it's large enough to create a bulge in your pants that would awaken sex thoughts in the opposite sex (or even the same sex), but you really shouldn't take any chances. Avoid even the *possibility* of sinning. Cut that penis off today. This is about the core nature of FFL
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arizona loses more business in wake of immigration law vote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: Any boycott of AZ hurts Hispanics, probably the most, since they make up a large portion of the restaurant and hotel workers. A successful boycott will probably do more to drive out illegals than the new law. In other words, the hate for non- Hispanics is going to hurt Hispanics more. Isn't that called shooting yourself in the foot? I don't think so, Mike. As you can see below a boycott could be very effective in getting the attention of the xenophobes and bigots in Arizona to change this law which is widely considered to be racist and unconstitutional. You may recall the following -successful- boycott of Arizona: ---Arizona voters rejected the 1990 initiative to create a [Martin Luther] King holiday.[5] The NFL, which had an increasing percentage of African American players, and urged by the NFL Players' Association, voted to yank Super Bowl XXVII from Arizona, and awarded it instead to the Rose Bowl in Pasadena, California. ... Two years after the loss of more the $350 million in major convention business and the 1993 Super Bowl, Arizona became the first and only state to popularly vote for and pass a Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. State Holiday.--- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXVII#Arizona.27s_Martin_Luther_King_Day_controversy Faced with the boycott, Arizona voters finally approved the holiday by ballot in 1992, and on March 23, 1993, the NFL awarded Super Bowl XXX (1996) to Tempe.--- When cities like LA and San Francisco organize a boycott, that just lets us all know where not to spend our money or do business. This lunacy could end up backfiring and hurting CA more. From: do.rflex do.rf...@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 4:30:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Arizona loses more business in wake of immigration law vote  Arizona took another hit Wednesday as Republicans cast a vote for the home of their 2012 convention. Phoenix made the short list but lost out to Tampa. It was little surprise to tourism officials in Arizona. Since the state passed the nation's toughest immigration law three weeks ago, its meeting and events business has fallen drastically. Hispanic civil rights groups are boycotting Arizona and urging others to do the same. ... The city risks losing as much as $90 million in hotel and convention business over the next five years because of the controversy, according to city estimates released Wednesday. The state's hotel and lodging association has counted 23 canceled meetings for a loss of between $6 and $10 million. On Wednesday, Los Angeles became the largest city to join the boycott. Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/12/AR2010051203317.html ALSO - according to a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll: 70 percent of Hispanics oppose the new law. http://snipurl. com/w7y6p [newsbusters_ org] [NOTE: Hispanics make up 30% of Arizona's population.]
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Aspiration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip Again, one has to wonder what inflamed the lower passions in Buck when he saw this photo. Was it the woman in the bikini? Or was it the prosthetic limbs that enabled her to run? I sense Buck is mocking religious conservatism -- but I don't know him. I think you may be right, and if so, I take back what I just said to him. But he wasn't just mocking religious conservatism, he was mocking Barry, knowing exactly how Barry would respond.
[FairfieldLife] For Buck and those like him -- the Burquini
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The next to go is kapitalism!?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiZtPTLuPtw Indeed. The final collaps of capitalism has begun. Please remember that this is a good thing for ordinary people and a bad thing only for those who live on the fruit of other peoples sweat and toil. This is the long awaited new beginning, a dream come true, happening right in front of our eyes, and the main reason Maharishi incarnated on this planet; to make this transformation possible and to make it as smooth as possible. Do not be afraid, this is a very good thing, the outcome is marvelous ! And Maitrey is now in the world to help and guide during this huge transformation. I find this such an odd view. These days, there are currently so many false artifacts, barnacles and sludge attached to actual capitalism I understand how some mistake these artifacts for the ship itself. And many mistake imperialism with capitalism and miscast appropriate seething remarks about imperialism on to capitalism. Its such an amusing muddle that many express. But the call for or joyous dancing about the fall of capitalism is a call to the end of the most potent transformation engine to rid the planet of poverty that has existed to this point in time. A call for the end of capitalism is a call to keep people shackled in poverty, to keep people subserviant, to keep people shackled, to keep people workin' on Maggie's Farm. Perhaps it makes sense. The TMO at its core (not the daily practice of TM) is essentially, or at its worst at least, a totalitarian regime -- where the peasants (all but a few nobility) dictated to as to how they could live their lives in excrutiating detail. Massive, intrusive micro-managing, total control, no dissent. So I do get it, the call to end actual capitalism (not the ugly artifacts clinging to it) is a call to keep people impoverished, in their place, and totally controllable. A totalitarian's wet dream. I just wish the advocates of such would be more honest in their intentions.
[FairfieldLife] Jerusalem Forever
I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
Well, then the Spaniards get to reclaim Los Angeles, right? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhG0cCGEpxg http://www.aljazeerah.info/Opinion%20editorials/2006%20Opinion%20Editorials/July/10%20o/Israeli%20Savagery%20in%20Gaza%20By%20George%20Karsa.htm http://notesonhypocrisy.com/node/10
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M Yes wonderful stuff. Religious elitism and entitlement at its best. Unapoligetic rights claimed to beat the shit out of anyone outside the clan. Imperialistic claims based on archaic myths -- or at best 3000 year old heretitary claims. Wonderful stuff. And i love israel, and it s entrepreneurial, semi-democratic, pioneer, spirit. I jsut abhor the militaristic, elitist, chauvanist, barbarian underbelly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M Yes wonderful stuff. Religious elitism and entitlement at its best. Unapoligetic rights claimed to beat the shit out of anyone outside the clan. More honest in a way than Buck, who merely wants them banned, all under the guise of moralism. :-) Imperialistic claims based on archaic myths -- or at best 3000 year old heretitary claims. Again, better than moralistic claims.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M Yes wonderful stuff. Religious elitism and entitlement at its best. Unapoligetic rights claimed to beat the shit out of anyone outside the clan. Imperialistic claims based on archaic myths -- or at best 3000 year old heretitary claims. Wonderful stuff. And i love israel, and it s entrepreneurial, semi-democratic, pioneer, spirit. I jsut abhor the militaristic, elitist, chauvanist, barbarian underbelly. My ancestors build and lived in one of the oldest castles in Europe, stretcch back more than 1000 years. We toiled hard, built our homeland. And through absolutely no fault of our own, we are always the victims, we one by one we were force to leave the castle. But every Christmas, while praying to our saviour and (and only true) lord who blessed us and made us f'ing better than all others, we said next year back at the castle. So last week, when we took the castle by force. sorry about the 500,000 dead -- it was collateral damage, we came HOME. It felt F'ing good. A 1000 year pilgramige back to the land that was deemed eternally OURS by our one true god. So F you world. We got ours, and we will beat the holy shit out of anyone who even thinks that we are not totally righteous -- and huge victims, simply claiming what is eternally our f'ing stuff.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arizona issues new guidelines for immigration law
Mike Dixon: Ten more states are considering the same law and polls are showing a very strong support for it in AZ and nation wide... Maybe Mr. Manning would like to explain, exactly, what it is that makes the recent Arizona law so objectionable, that is, after he's read it. LOL! POE: Well, I've gone through it. And it's pretty simple. It takes the federal law and makes it -- enacts it in a state statute, although makes it much more refined in that it actually says in one of the sections that no state or subdivision may consider race, color, national origin in implementing the requirements of any subsection of this law... Read more: 'Holder on the Hot Seat Over Arizona Immigration Law' Fox News, May 14, 2010 http://tinyurl.com/23mf4dl 'Racist film 'Machete' produced with taxpayer funds' Infowars, May 13, 2010 http://tinyurl.com/38xo87u
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
This is the reason why this city could be the cause of Armageddon, the next world war. It is likely that the US would be on the side of Israel since there are still fundamentalist Christians who believe that this war will be between the forces of good and evil, thus leading to the Second Coming of Christ and the Rapture. Also, there is a fairly strong Jewish influence in the US which will lobby the politicians to support the Israeli cause. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M
[FairfieldLife] Finger Wagger in Chief
When Obama wags his finger at BP everyone feels good that the president is as mad as hell as we are and that he really cares about us, and loss of wildlife, jobs and Gulf coast businesses. Righteous anger is cheap. Seizing BP assets and demanding they stop the leak NOW, is costly. BP is trying to save the well and salvage production instead of sealing the drill hole permanently. President Obama, take control of the spill and start action to permanently seal the flow. - Now! Today! Not a month from now. http://snipurl.com/w8lma http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/partner/baker-energy/news/article/2010/05/gulf-oil-spill-positive-action-now-stop-the-flow- Obama is Planning to Be Angry About the Spill this Morning http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/47713 White House Allowed BP to Keep Video of Gushing Pipe from Public for Three Weeks http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/47660 More Drilling Ahead in the Arctic, We Still Don't Know the Current Spill Rate http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/47670
Re: [FairfieldLife] MILF Heaven
TurquoiseB wrote: Claudia Schiffer joins the ranks of Demi Moore and Angelina Jolie in proving that beautiful women get even more beautiful when they are pregnant in a recent photo essay for German Vogue at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/13/claudia-schiffers-many-ed_n_574\ 757.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/13/claudia-schiffers-many-ed_n_57\ 4757.html Perhaps they also get more spiritual. My favorite in the set of photos is this one of Claudia as a pregnant nun: Though not pregnant but an older actress: Annabelle Gish on last night's Flash Forward or have you given up on that show? ;-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Aspiration
WAIT ON...WAIT ON! I think everybody is taking this way too seriously! Buck, Barry and Judy, no need to attack each other over a photo one can choose to giggle at or look in wonder at. Pornographic? Lighten up peeps! Just enjoy. From: TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 7:01:32 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Aspiration I am mainly ignoring Buck since he's gone all wannabe spiritual teacher on us, but this one just screams for a reply, so here is one. Dear FFL Moderators, Turq is heckling an otherwise spiritual community here with this pornography. His posting of this material must certainly be in violation of the spiritual FFL guidelines here for moral standard. Now let me get this straight... Buck thinks that a photo of a woman running along a beach wearing a bikini is pornographic. Did I get that right? Now if it had been a woman running along a beach *in Spain* he might have had a reason to complain, because chances are she would be topless. Legally topless, given the Spanish Constitution, but topless nonetheless, and in prudish America, possibly an offense to some. But wearing a *bikini* ? One has to wonder how long it has been since Buck has been to the beach. But wait...maybe it *wasn't* the bikini-clad young woman that Buck found pornographic. Perhaps instead it was the fact that *in order to* run along the beach, she has had to overcome a disability and be fitted with prosthetic limbs to replace the two feet she obviously lost somewhere along the way. Is *THAT* the definition of pornography that Buck is invoking? Does he find people in wheelchairs pornographic? Would he consider a woman wearing a bikini in a wheelchair pornographic? The mind boggleth. Yes, its a good example of both what you can do with plow shears in peace... Which was the whole POINT. Both on the website that orig- inally posted the photo, and for me posting it here. This woman has *aspiration* . She didn't allow a little thing like losing both feet to keep her from running. Now THAT is aspiration IMO. ...but also attempting licentious inflammation of the lower passions. Again, one has to wonder what inflamed the lower passions in Buck when he saw this photo. Was it the woman in the bikini? Or was it the prosthetic limbs that enabled her to run? If the former, I suggest he needs to get out more. If the latter tends to inflame his passions, I suggest he may need to stay in more. Who *knows* what amputee is next going to inflame his passions. Does he post here the modest running/ seat-suit version or the nearly naked one for him to leer at? Just so we're clear on Buck and his definition of both nearly naked and pornography, here is the photo I posted again: Before he gets the Moderators to kick me off of Fairfield Life, I'd like Buck to explain his use of *both* the term nearly naked and pornographic with regard to this photo. From my perspective, the woman is wearing a bikini. Yes, the bottom half of it is a kind of a *thong* bikini, and the top half of it is a more of a body wrap rather than one of those contriv- ances with built-in push-up bras, but hey! my sensibilities have been somewhat conditioned by Spain. This is a *normal* bathing suit on Spanish beaches. Except for her wearing the top, of course. :-) No, he goes for the sensational shocking sensuous one to drop here. What was the point he really wanted to call attention to? To disrupt spiritual energies with titillating spiritual pornography. Could he possibly have been curious whether there was anyone here so prudish and repressed that they would find this photo offensive, rather than uplifting? If so, I suggest he has succeeded. It's clearly a cultivated bad character tendency in the author, ... to draw that kind of admiration. It is not only sinful to bestow lustful glances, but it is equally wrong willfully to awaken sex thoughts in the opposite sex, and also to feel flattered by such attentions. Now I begin to understand why Buck admires the reclusive spiritual communities of the 1700s and 1800s. His sensibilities would be at home there. In this world, he feels -- and obviously acts -- out of place. Buck, if you really feel that it is sinful to awaken sex thoughts in the opposite sex, cut your dick off. Given your 'tude, it is not *likely* that it's large enough to create a bulge in your pants that would awaken sex thoughts in the opposite sex (or even the same sex), but you really shouldn't take any chances. Avoid even the *possibility* of sinning. Cut that penis off today. This is about the core nature of FFL and particularly is about standards of spiritual decency and progress. Moderators, moderate this outlaw. This is about someone with major hangups about sex and sexuality attempting to impose them on others. End of story.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
I was speaking about the concept. The article on the sunspots was in the Mountain Astrologer probably over a decade ago. Duveyoung wrote: Perhaps you could share a link with me? I don't think I've come across anyone every saying what I'm saying below -- the concept of the night sky being a personal diary. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Don't bother copyrighting as the subject has been tackled by many authors. BTW, did you know that Kepler's gig was creating charts for astrologers to use? It wasn't about plotting courses for safe traveling of ships. Some day human beings may evolve where they understand the larger cycles of nature and how they express themselves in society than they do today. Some astrologers believe that every time we go through heavy sunspot cycles society goes a bit nuts. Duveyoung wrote: I like the following idea so much I'm copyrighting this piece. I haven't been all that scholarly, but I'm convinced I'm being original and that the below is a new idea. Er, I hope. Copyright Edg Duveyoung 2010 One fact keeps banging on my door. 200,000 years ago, the modern human brain evolved. They were as smart as us, and that means 1% of them had Einstein level acuity...190,000 years before the oldest scriptures. With no TV et al, what did the ancients have for night time conversations? Think about it. It was the stars. And for those who would say, Oh, so they saw some animals in the sky, no big deal. I would ask, Do you really think Einstein would be satisfied with animal tales? Do you think anyone could tell Old Albertgrok that a certain star in the sky caused a certain person's personality to be a certain way? Nah, that would be jarring to a modern brain's logic and common sense, and back then too. The precision of their measurements as proved by the various astronomical artifacts they created, is only the BEGINNING of their ken. Here's my theory: They used the stars as their personal diary. How so? The cave paintings at Lascaux give a clue. The configuration of the animals were PERFECT star charts -- the tips of the bison's horns being EXACTLY where they should be. How exact? If you made the cave's rock walls transparent, the tips of the bison's horns would be on top of, align with the bigger-brighter stars, and so too the other key-points of the cave's artwork would PRECISELY align with the night sky also. That's a huge intellectual feat, but it's only the beginning. One has to ask why the geniuses back then went to all that trouble. To predict the growing season or when the bison herds would return seem to me to be painfully trivial and not anywhere near the level of importance in those ancient minds that it would take to motivate the cave paintings which required a tremendous amount of recreational time to be expended. Note that it would be EASY for even a normally intelligent ancient to say, When the sun comes up directly over that mountain top, that's when the planting season begins. There's all the precision one needs. One sees the sun coming up every day slightly nudged over a bit, and the moon as if adds accents to each day's presentation, and then the stars are the matrix-background against which the sun and moon are compared. It didn't take a Stonehenge to know when to plant the seeds. It didn't take a cave painting either. So why did they go to all that trouble? Stonehenge? Give me a break -- that's way too much trouble to tell when to plant a seed. And, hey, they didn't even plant seeds until 10,000 years ago, and I'm theorizing on what the stars meant to them before agriculture. So, diary, what can I mean by that? To me the following concept is big enough and valuable enough to motivate a cave person to get his tribe to build Stonehenge. First note that the human mind is DNA deep when it comes to projection. We simply can see the contents of our mind out there in a direct manner. That's our beauty.we naturally see ourselves everywhere. Consider this -- if you're my age, you know where you were when JFK was shot, or when Neil planted his boot on the moon, or whatever. Do you see that you've got a dog-eared page in your own personal diary via that notation? A singularly precise moment in time is given an asterisk by you. When JFK got shot I was __. Everyone my age can fill that blank. And any moment that is important to one can be thusly dog-eared. Well, if you were sitting around a campfire with a giant brain, don't you think you could as easily say, When the bison's horn tip hit that mountain's top, I was born. Direct, simple, true, and practically valuable. Cave Father: That bison's star was on that mountain's top and then moved on to where we see it tonight -- a full hand span away from the mountain's top now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
Sunspots? -- I never mentioned sunspots. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I was speaking about the concept. The article on the sunspots was in the Mountain Astrologer probably over a decade ago. Duveyoung wrote: Perhaps you could share a link with me? I don't think I've come across anyone every saying what I'm saying below -- the concept of the night sky being a personal diary. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Don't bother copyrighting as the subject has been tackled by many authors. BTW, did you know that Kepler's gig was creating charts for astrologers to use? It wasn't about plotting courses for safe traveling of ships. Some day human beings may evolve where they understand the larger cycles of nature and how they express themselves in society than they do today. Some astrologers believe that every time we go through heavy sunspot cycles society goes a bit nuts. Duveyoung wrote: I like the following idea so much I'm copyrighting this piece. I haven't been all that scholarly, but I'm convinced I'm being original and that the below is a new idea. Er, I hope. Copyright Edg Duveyoung 2010 One fact keeps banging on my door. 200,000 years ago, the modern human brain evolved. They were as smart as us, and that means 1% of them had Einstein level acuity...190,000 years before the oldest scriptures. With no TV et al, what did the ancients have for night time conversations? Think about it. It was the stars. And for those who would say, Oh, so they saw some animals in the sky, no big deal. I would ask, Do you really think Einstein would be satisfied with animal tales? Do you think anyone could tell Old Albertgrok that a certain star in the sky caused a certain person's personality to be a certain way? Nah, that would be jarring to a modern brain's logic and common sense, and back then too. The precision of their measurements as proved by the various astronomical artifacts they created, is only the BEGINNING of their ken. Here's my theory: They used the stars as their personal diary. How so? The cave paintings at Lascaux give a clue. The configuration of the animals were PERFECT star charts -- the tips of the bison's horns being EXACTLY where they should be. How exact? If you made the cave's rock walls transparent, the tips of the bison's horns would be on top of, align with the bigger-brighter stars, and so too the other key-points of the cave's artwork would PRECISELY align with the night sky also. That's a huge intellectual feat, but it's only the beginning. One has to ask why the geniuses back then went to all that trouble. To predict the growing season or when the bison herds would return seem to me to be painfully trivial and not anywhere near the level of importance in those ancient minds that it would take to motivate the cave paintings which required a tremendous amount of recreational time to be expended. Note that it would be EASY for even a normally intelligent ancient to say, When the sun comes up directly over that mountain top, that's when the planting season begins. There's all the precision one needs. One sees the sun coming up every day slightly nudged over a bit, and the moon as if adds accents to each day's presentation, and then the stars are the matrix-background against which the sun and moon are compared. It didn't take a Stonehenge to know when to plant the seeds. It didn't take a cave painting either. So why did they go to all that trouble? Stonehenge? Give me a break -- that's way too much trouble to tell when to plant a seed. And, hey, they didn't even plant seeds until 10,000 years ago, and I'm theorizing on what the stars meant to them before agriculture. So, diary, what can I mean by that? To me the following concept is big enough and valuable enough to motivate a cave person to get his tribe to build Stonehenge. First note that the human mind is DNA deep when it comes to projection. We simply can see the contents of our mind out there in a direct manner. That's our beauty.we naturally see ourselves everywhere. Consider this -- if you're my age, you know where you were when JFK was shot, or when Neil planted his boot on the moon, or whatever. Do you see that you've got a dog-eared page in your own personal diary via that notation? A singularly precise moment in time is given an asterisk by you. When JFK got shot I was __. Everyone my age can fill that blank. And any moment that is important to one can be thusly dog-eared. Well, if you were sitting around a campfire with a giant brain, don't you think you could as easily say, When the bison's horn tip hit that mountain's top, I
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The next to go is kapitalism!?
tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiZtPTLuPtw Indeed. The final collaps of capitalism has begun. Please remember that this is a good thing for ordinary people and a bad thing only for those who live on the fruit of other peoples sweat and toil. This is the long awaited new beginning, a dream come true, happening right in front of our eyes, and the main reason Maharishi incarnated on this planet; to make this transformation possible and to make it as smooth as possible. Do not be afraid, this is a very good thing, the outcome is marvelous ! And Maitrey is now in the world to help and guide during this huge transformation. I find this such an odd view. These days, there are currently so many false artifacts, barnacles and sludge attached to actual capitalism I understand how some mistake these artifacts for the ship itself. And many mistake imperialism with capitalism and miscast appropriate seething remarks about imperialism on to capitalism. Its such an amusing muddle that many express. But the call for or joyous dancing about the fall of capitalism is a call to the end of the most potent transformation engine to rid the planet of poverty that has existed to this point in time. A call for the end of capitalism is a call to keep people shackled in poverty, to keep people subserviant, to keep people shackled, to keep people workin' on Maggie's Farm. Perhaps it makes sense. The TMO at its core (not the daily practice of TM) is essentially, or at its worst at least, a totalitarian regime -- where the peasants (all but a few nobility) dictated to as to how they could live their lives in excrutiating detail. Massive, intrusive micro-managing, total control, no dissent. So I do get it, the call to end actual capitalism (not the ugly artifacts clinging to it) is a call to keep people impoverished, in their place, and totally controllable. A totalitarian's wet dream. I just wish the advocates of such would be more honest in their intentions. I would say that the human race has shown it is not mature enough to handle capitalism. But I don't think Nabby nor I are speaking about the corner store businessman. We're speaking about the assholes that run major corporations with only an eye for profits while stomping on the earth's environment and on a whim putting people INTO poverty. There's no need for any totalitarianism to solve the problem. You just limit how big a corporation can be, how long it can exist. You also don't allow people to build massive concentrated wealth. It is inexcusable to have 1% of the population own 95% of the wealth. They start behaving arrogantly and thing God deemed them to be our rulers. Fuck that.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arizona loses more business in wake of immigration law vote
Arizona loses more business in wake of immigration law vote... The establishments of the American political parties, and the media, are full of people who think concern about illegal immigration is a mark of racism. If you were Freud you might say, 'How odd that's where their minds so quickly go, how strange they're so eager to point an accusing finger. Could they be projecting onto others their own, heavily defended-against inner emotions?'... Read more: 'The Big Alienation' By Peggy Noonan Wall Street Journal, May 1, 2010 http://tinyurl.com/2b84hpt
[FairfieldLife] Re: Arizona loses more business in wake of immigration law vote
Mike Dixon: Any boycott of AZ hurts Hispanics, probably the most, since they make up a large portion of the restaurant and hotel workers... Maybe so, but I boycotted San Francisco and Los Angeles back in 1989, not because of Hispanics, but because both are filled with liberals and liberal politicians who want the state to fail economically. After Greece, California may be the next failed state, not Spain or Portugal. Rasmussen: Majority of Latinos in Arizona support letting cops check for immigration status? Hot Air, April 27, 2010 http://tinyurl.com/2uatzof
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arizona issues new guidelines for immigration law
Actually the AZ state version of the law is much more protective of individual liberties than the federal law. The feds can stop and ask anybody for proof of legal status, where as the state law only allows such questioning after being stopped for another violation and failure to provide proper identification like a drivers license or the person provides a Mexican drivers license or ID. From: WillyTex willy...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 9:02:51 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Arizona issues new guidelines for immigration law Mike Dixon: Ten more states are considering the same law and polls are showing a very strong support for it in AZ and nation wide... Maybe Mr. Manning would like to explain, exactly, what it is that makes the recent Arizona law so objectionable, that is, after he's read it. LOL! POE: Well, I've gone through it. And it's pretty simple. It takes the federal law and makes it -- enacts it in a state statute, although makes it much more refined in that it actually says in one of the sections that no state or subdivision may consider race, color, national origin in implementing the requirements of any subsection of this law... Read more: 'Holder on the Hot Seat Over Arizona Immigration Law' Fox News, May 14, 2010 http://tinyurl.com/23mf4dl 'Racist film 'Machete' produced with taxpayer funds' Infowars, May 13, 2010 http://tinyurl.com/38xo87u
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Aspiration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: WAIT ON...WAIT ON! I think everybody is taking this way too seriously! Buck, Barry and Judy, no need to attack each other over a photo one can choose to giggle at or look in wonder at. Pornographic? Lighten up peeps! Just enjoy. I replied to Buck because it was just too perfect an opportunity for humor and poking fun at the Prude Mindset for me to pass up. I never for a moment thought that the FFL Moderators would think that a photo of a woman in a bikini would violate their guidelines. Whether Buck is feigning this level of sexual uptightness and prudery and insane moralism or he really thinks like that, *he is writing it*, and putting it out hereas if he really *does* believe it. I find that lazy and lacking cojones. He's smart enough to speak his own mind and present his own real point of view here, just non honest enough IMO to do so. It's the *stance* that needs to be mocked. If Buck wants to present himself as really *believing in* that stance, then he gets mocked, too. Simple as that. Whether you are really insane or pretending to be insane, if you present an insane POV you deserve to be treated as if you really were insane. I *did* like my line about keeping him away from other amputees if this photo stirred up his prurient interests, though, didn't you? :-) :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
No, I did as an example of astrological theory. Duveyoung wrote: Sunspots? -- I never mentioned sunspots. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: I was speaking about the concept. The article on the sunspots was in the Mountain Astrologer probably over a decade ago. Duveyoung wrote: Perhaps you could share a link with me? I don't think I've come across anyone every saying what I'm saying below -- the concept of the night sky being a personal diary. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Don't bother copyrighting as the subject has been tackled by many authors. BTW, did you know that Kepler's gig was creating charts for astrologers to use? It wasn't about plotting courses for safe traveling of ships. Some day human beings may evolve where they understand the larger cycles of nature and how they express themselves in society than they do today. Some astrologers believe that every time we go through heavy sunspot cycles society goes a bit nuts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
Did you or did you not read my entire essay? You are being non-responsive about the diary idea. Did you actually come across this concept before? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: No, I did as an example of astrological theory. Duveyoung wrote: Sunspots? -- I never mentioned sunspots. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I was speaking about the concept. The article on the sunspots was in the Mountain Astrologer probably over a decade ago. Duveyoung wrote: Perhaps you could share a link with me? I don't think I've come across anyone every saying what I'm saying below -- the concept of the night sky being a personal diary. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Don't bother copyrighting as the subject has been tackled by many authors. BTW, did you know that Kepler's gig was creating charts for astrologers to use? It wasn't about plotting courses for safe traveling of ships. Some day human beings may evolve where they understand the larger cycles of nature and how they express themselves in society than they do today. Some astrologers believe that every time we go through heavy sunspot cycles society goes a bit nuts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Did you or did you not read my entire essay? I don't know about Bhairitu, but I can state for a fact that I read no more of it than the first sentence or so that appeared in Message View. The fact that *you* were proud enough of it to copyright it told me all I needed to know: This is long- winded egojibbersh that would only cost me precious minutes of my life to read, while providing zero benefit. I suspect I was not alone here in feeling that way, and in diving for the Next key. :-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Finger Wagger in Chief
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchy...@... wrote: snip BP is trying to save the well and salvage production instead of sealing the drill hole permanently. President Obama, take control of the spill and start action to permanently seal the flow. - Now! Today! Not a month from now. http://snipurl.com/w8lma http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/partner/baker-energy/news/article/2010/05/gulf-oil-spill-positive-action-now-stop-the-flow- Sorry, no. The well is ruined, dead, unsalvageable. They won't be able to use the relief well either to do anything but seal the main well. Everything will have to be sealed up permanently and abandoned. It's a total loss for BP no matter what. And there is no way they can seal the flow now. If there were, they'd have done it. They're doing what they can, which isn't much, to reduce the flow until the relief well is complete in a couple of months; that's the only way to stop the flow (it will ultimately intersect the main well right at the bottom and inject cement into it to seal off the oil reservoir). Wild ideas about dynamite and nukes are out of the question because of the very high risk of making things worse than they already are. If you really want to know what's going on, check out the discussions on TheOilDrum.com. It's an environmentalist site concerned with better solutions to our energy problems. Many of the commenters there are experienced oil industry people, but *none* of them are BP apologists (or government apologists, for that matter).
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Aspiration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@... wrote: WAIT ON...WAIT ON! I think everybody is taking this way too seriously! Buck, Barry and Judy, no need to attack each other over a photo one can choose to giggle at or look in wonder at. Pornographic? Lighten up peeps! Just enjoy. Of course it isn't pornographic. But Barry made three posts yesterday and today that he was hoping would elicit howls of outrage. As I said, like a third-grader using a four-letter word to shock people. Juvenile and STOOPID. I think tartbrain is right; Buck's response was tongue in cheek, a much more clever and sophisticated version of Barry's attempt to get a reaction with his own posts. And Barry fell for it big-time. Buck has made it possible to give Barry a new award: Master of Inadvertent Self-Mockery.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dear fellow TM-siddhas, what could not be attained? :D
Erik: If immaculate and eternal fame can be attained with a perishable, tainted body, then what else could not be attained? According to Tantra, everything, including enlightenment, is possible within the body - there is nothing that exists outside the the human body. ...each one of us is a union of all universal energy. Everything that we need in order to be complete is within us right at this very moment. It is simply a matter of being able to recognize it. - Lama Thubten Yeshe
Re: [FairfieldLife] Arizona issues new guidelines for immigration law
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:25 PM, do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com wrote: I went to the hospital this morning to have my blood drawn for some tests. This Hispanic woman sounded to me like she could speak English. I heard the commotion over her not being able to speak a single word of English. Of course most of the employees of the lab are bilingual. -- The psychic fair has been canceled due to unforeseen circumstances.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Spiritual Aspiration
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: Before he gets the Moderators to kick me off of Fairfield Life, I'd like Buck to explain his use of *both* the term nearly naked and pornographic with regard to this photo. The photo was in no way pornographic. End of story.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The next to go is kapitalism!?
WillyTex wrote: Bhairitu: We're speaking about the assholes that run major corporations with only an eye for profits while stomping on the earth's environment and on a whim putting people INTO poverty... So, are you going to be the one that tells Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Lawrence Ellison, and Steve Jobs, that they have too much wealth? Ellison and Jobs are well known assholes in their behavior. They are both tyrants. OTOH, Buffet and Gates might agree with me. Buffet is giving away much of his wealth. Or, are you going to keep buying their products and keep trying to point to others as the cause of your own poverty? Which products? I haven't bought any GEICO insurance yet. Unfortunately I'm in need of replacing one Windows XP Pro machine so the new one will be Windows 7. I do feel that Windows is a dreadful OS when I compare bringing my Windows machines up along side Ubuntu. I don't use any of Ellison's products nor Jobs. You'd probably be the first person to pull a tantrum if you stopped making any money! Who 'bout you? Bet you would too. But then I'm not making millions. If those you mentioned above stopped making any money they'd still have plenty of wealth to fall back on. So why do they need to spend another day making money? Could it be egotism? It is inexcusable to have 1% of the population own 95% of the wealth... 1% of adults are estimated to hold 40% of world wealth, a number which falls to 32% when adjusted for purchasing power parity... Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth Fuck that. Yeah, write. All you had to do is invest $100 dollars a month and use compound interest for fifty years. You could have retired twenty years ago, but now you'll be lucky to get your $950 a month Social Security. Go figure. And this is what you did?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
Chill out. I was not beating up on you. Just pointing out there have been plenty of such ideas already written about. I scanned your article and got the gist of it. Now go make some pitta tea and chill out. ;-) Duveyoung wrote: Did you or did you not read my entire essay? You are being non-responsive about the diary idea. Did you actually come across this concept before? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: No, I did as an example of astrological theory. Duveyoung wrote: Sunspots? -- I never mentioned sunspots. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I was speaking about the concept. The article on the sunspots was in the Mountain Astrologer probably over a decade ago. Duveyoung wrote: Perhaps you could share a link with me? I don't think I've come across anyone every saying what I'm saying below -- the concept of the night sky being a personal diary. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Don't bother copyrighting as the subject has been tackled by many authors. BTW, did you know that Kepler's gig was creating charts for astrologers to use? It wasn't about plotting courses for safe traveling of ships. Some day human beings may evolve where they understand the larger cycles of nature and how they express themselves in society than they do today. Some astrologers believe that every time we go through heavy sunspot cycles society goes a bit nuts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The next to go is kapitalism!?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiZtPTLuPtw Indeed. The final collaps of capitalism has begun. Please remember that this is a good thing for ordinary people and a bad thing only for those who live on the fruit of other peoples sweat and toil. This is the long awaited new beginning, a dream come true, happening right in front of our eyes, and the main reason Maharishi incarnated on this planet; to make this transformation possible and to make it as smooth as possible. Do not be afraid, this is a very good thing, the outcome is marvelous ! And Maitrey is now in the world to help and guide during this huge transformation. I find this such an odd view. Fine, but the final meldown of capitalism has begun wheter you like it, find it it odd or not. Just as Maharishi predicted. There is a huge body of other predictions by His Holiness which your limited smallminded state of being surely will find odd as well but which nevertheless is materialising as we speak. One in particular comes to mind, no less mind-boggeling: Heaven will walk on earth in this generation - Maharishi
[FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
Still non-responsive. Give a link. I googled it and found nothing -- pony up -- if you can't then your several responses that showed such certainty that the idea was well-worn must be bullshit. Keyword: diary. Read my essay -- sounds like a scanning didn't do it for you. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Chill out. I was not beating up on you. Just pointing out there have been plenty of such ideas already written about. I scanned your article and got the gist of it. Now go make some pitta tea and chill out. ;-) Duveyoung wrote: Did you or did you not read my entire essay? You are being non-responsive about the diary idea. Did you actually come across this concept before? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: No, I did as an example of astrological theory. Duveyoung wrote: Sunspots? -- I never mentioned sunspots. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I was speaking about the concept. The article on the sunspots was in the Mountain Astrologer probably over a decade ago. Duveyoung wrote: Perhaps you could share a link with me? I don't think I've come across anyone every saying what I'm saying below -- the concept of the night sky being a personal diary. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Don't bother copyrighting as the subject has been tackled by many authors. BTW, did you know that Kepler's gig was creating charts for astrologers to use? It wasn't about plotting courses for safe traveling of ships. Some day human beings may evolve where they understand the larger cycles of nature and how they express themselves in society than they do today. Some astrologers believe that every time we go through heavy sunspot cycles society goes a bit nuts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
Edg, I think he's saying that lots of people have had lots of different ideas about how the ancients used astronomy. He doesn't think you should bother to copyright yours because nobody's going to want to steal it; they'll come up with their own idea instead--i.e., they're a dime a dozen. (Right, Bhairitu?) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Still non-responsive. Give a link. I googled it and found nothing -- pony up -- if you can't then your several responses that showed such certainty that the idea was well-worn must be bullshit. Keyword: diary. Read my essay -- sounds like a scanning didn't do it for you. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Chill out. I was not beating up on you. Just pointing out there have been plenty of such ideas already written about. I scanned your article and got the gist of it. Now go make some pitta tea and chill out. ;-) Duveyoung wrote: Did you or did you not read my entire essay? You are being non-responsive about the diary idea. Did you actually come across this concept before? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: No, I did as an example of astrological theory. Duveyoung wrote: Sunspots? -- I never mentioned sunspots. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I was speaking about the concept. The article on the sunspots was in the Mountain Astrologer probably over a decade ago. Duveyoung wrote: Perhaps you could share a link with me? I don't think I've come across anyone every saying what I'm saying below -- the concept of the night sky being a personal diary. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Don't bother copyrighting as the subject has been tackled by many authors. BTW, did you know that Kepler's gig was creating charts for astrologers to use? It wasn't about plotting courses for safe traveling of ships. Some day human beings may evolve where they understand the larger cycles of nature and how they express themselves in society than they do today. Some astrologers believe that every time we go through heavy sunspot cycles society goes a bit nuts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
I'm not worried about anyone taking the idea and getting a PhD in it and becoming famous in the Paleolithic world -- just wanted to date the idea's birth in my nervous system and, hey, if I got lucky and was the first to come up with the notion, then, yeah, I'll take a brief bow for 15 SECONDS of fame. It's just that Bhairitu dismissed the idea with what seems to me still to be a precise knowledge that gives him scholarly certainty. I'm working on a theory that Bhairitu spoke before he realized what the idea was after but a cursory scanning. He takes a lot of time here to write about astrology, but though I'm talking about the astronomy of folks who came a full 190,000 years before astrology, I think he's confused and thinks I'm spouting off a theory that pertains to his turf, ya see? And the diary notion is 180 degrees from astrology. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: Edg, I think he's saying that lots of people have had lots of different ideas about how the ancients used astronomy. He doesn't think you should bother to copyright yours because nobody's going to want to steal it; they'll come up with their own idea instead--i.e., they're a dime a dozen. (Right, Bhairitu?) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Still non-responsive. Give a link. I googled it and found nothing -- pony up -- if you can't then your several responses that showed such certainty that the idea was well-worn must be bullshit. Keyword: diary. Read my essay -- sounds like a scanning didn't do it for you. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Chill out. I was not beating up on you. Just pointing out there have been plenty of such ideas already written about. I scanned your article and got the gist of it. Now go make some pitta tea and chill out. ;-) Duveyoung wrote: Did you or did you not read my entire essay? You are being non-responsive about the diary idea. Did you actually come across this concept before? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: No, I did as an example of astrological theory. Duveyoung wrote: Sunspots? -- I never mentioned sunspots. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I was speaking about the concept. The article on the sunspots was in the Mountain Astrologer probably over a decade ago. Duveyoung wrote: Perhaps you could share a link with me? I don't think I've come across anyone every saying what I'm saying below -- the concept of the night sky being a personal diary. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Don't bother copyrighting as the subject has been tackled by many authors. BTW, did you know that Kepler's gig was creating charts for astrologers to use? It wasn't about plotting courses for safe traveling of ships. Some day human beings may evolve where they understand the larger cycles of nature and how they express themselves in society than they do today. Some astrologers believe that every time we go through heavy sunspot cycles society goes a bit nuts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The next to go is kapitalism!?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: Heaven will walk on earth in this generation - Maharishi Is he, by chance, referring to ...sambhavaami yuge yuge??
[FairfieldLife] More Jobs Likely This Year Than During Entire Bush Presidency
Repairing The Job Machine More jobs might be created this year than during George W. Bush's presidency. by Ronald Brownstein - National Journal - May 15, 2010 If the economy produces jobs over the next eight months at the same pace as it did over the past four months, the nation will have created more jobs in 2010 alone than it did over the entire eight years of George W. Bush's presidency. That comparison comes with many footnotes and asterisks. But it shows how the economic debate between the parties could look very different over time -- perhaps by November, more likely by 2012. More important, the comparison underscores the urgency of repairing an American job-creation machine that was sputtering long before the 2008 financial meltdown. First, the numbers: From February 2001, Bush's first full month in office, through January 2009, his last, total U.S. nonfarm employment grew from 132.5 million to 133.5 million, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's an increase, obviously, of just 1 million. From January through April of this year, the economy created 573,000 jobs. Over a full year, that projects to 1.72 million jobs. Job-creation numbers are notoriously volatile, so the actual result could run above or below that estimate. But Obama administration economists are increasingly optimistic that job growth this year will exceed expectations. Few of them will be surprised if more jobs are created in 2010 than over Bush's two terms. Now the principal footnote: To compare job growth in 2010 with Bush's record ignores the nearly 4 million jobs lost in Obama's first year, during the freefall that began in Bush's final months. That's like ignoring a meteor strike. Over time, voters are likely to judge Obama by his degree of success in eliminating that deficit and reducing unemployment. Still, if the economy this year produces more than 1 million jobs -- or, conceivably, more than 2 million -- that will give Democrats more ammunition to argue that their agenda has started to turn the tide. The real point of looking again at Bush's record is to underscore how few jobs the economy was creating even before the 2008 collapse. Bush's tally of 1 million jobs was much less than the economy had generated during any other two-term stretch since World War II: Dwight Eisenhower produced nearly 4 million, John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson (together) almost 16 million, Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford (together) 11 million, Ronald Reagan 16 million, and Bill Clinton more than 22 million. Bush's total, of course, was suppressed by the slowdown he inherited from Clinton and the full-scale meltdown during his last year. But even during the recovery in between, job growth lagged. In only eight of Bush's 96 months did the economy create as many jobs as the 290,000 it did last month. Clinton exceeded that level 33 times. Reagan exceeded it 24. In all, the economy gained about 1.2 million jobs annually during the six years of recovery under Bush. It averaged about twice that during the expansion from March 1991 to February 2001. This record suggests two conclusions. One is that there's no evidence to support the argument from congressional Republicans that tax cuts offer a silver bullet for expanding employment. Job growth boomed after Reagan cut taxes, but expanded even faster after Clinton raised them, and then faltered despite two massive tax cuts under Bush. If tax rates are the critical factor in that record, the relationship is well disguised. The other point is that even optimistic scenarios suggest a sustained period of uncomfortably high joblessness. The economy lost more jobs during 2008 and 2009 than it gained throughout the Bush recovery. Obama administration officials see positive signs of the economy's reaching what one called escape velocity, but acknowledge a long tough climb, even under relatively hopeful projections, to recreate the jobs vaporized by the recession. It is possible that the economy could experience a full decade without any sustained period matching the rapid job growth of the late 1990s. Obama himself has privately described long-term unemployment as his greatest domestic concern. Although the immediate jobs picture is clearly brightening, lasting surges in U.S. job growth usually have followed technological breakthroughs (the personal computer, the Internet) or expanded access to education (mass primary schooling in the late 19th century and increased access to college after World War II). Obama is betting heavily on both fronts, with big increases in federal investment in education and new technologies, such as alternative energy. But the engine that will propel the next great burst of American job creation has yet to be discovered. http://www.nationaljournal.com/njmagazine/nj_20100515_5237.php?mrefid=si\ te_search
[FairfieldLife] The untold heartbreak story in Avatar
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The next to go is kapitalism!?
nablusoss1008 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiZtPTLuPtw Indeed. The final collaps of capitalism has begun. Please remember that this is a good thing for ordinary people and a bad thing only for those who live on the fruit of other peoples sweat and toil. This is the long awaited new beginning, a dream come true, happening right in front of our eyes, and the main reason Maharishi incarnated on this planet; to make this transformation possible and to make it as smooth as possible. Do not be afraid, this is a very good thing, the outcome is marvelous ! And Maitrey is now in the world to help and guide during this huge transformation. I find this such an odd view. Fine, but the final meldown of capitalism has begun wheter you like it, find it it odd or not. Just as Maharishi predicted. There is a huge body of other predictions by His Holiness which your limited smallminded state of being surely will find odd as well but which nevertheless is materialising as we speak. One in particular comes to mind, no less mind-boggeling: Heaven will walk on earth in this generation - Maharishi The dogs of capitalism have soiled their own bed. This shows they aren't as smart as they think they are. They had warnings from economists and regulators but they didn't listen. They allowed the governments to run up huge deficits. The US has run up a huge one and if they come collecting I'll tell them to buzz off which is what a lot of Americans will do. France and Germany is fed up with the US banks creating these conditions as they well should be. Opinion piece: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/edmundconway/15657/us-faces-same-problems-as-greece-says-bank-of-england/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
That's correct but he doesn't seem to get it. authfriend wrote: Edg, I think he's saying that lots of people have had lots of different ideas about how the ancients used astronomy. He doesn't think you should bother to copyright yours because nobody's going to want to steal it; they'll come up with their own idea instead--i.e., they're a dime a dozen. (Right, Bhairitu?) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Still non-responsive. Give a link. I googled it and found nothing -- pony up -- if you can't then your several responses that showed such certainty that the idea was well-worn must be bullshit. Keyword: diary. Read my essay -- sounds like a scanning didn't do it for you. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Chill out. I was not beating up on you. Just pointing out there have been plenty of such ideas already written about. I scanned your article and got the gist of it. Now go make some pitta tea and chill out. ;-) Duveyoung wrote: Did you or did you not read my entire essay? You are being non-responsive about the diary idea. Did you actually come across this concept before? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: No, I did as an example of astrological theory. Duveyoung wrote: Sunspots? -- I never mentioned sunspots. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I was speaking about the concept. The article on the sunspots was in the Mountain Astrologer probably over a decade ago. Duveyoung wrote: Perhaps you could share a link with me? I don't think I've come across anyone every saying what I'm saying below -- the concept of the night sky being a personal diary. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Don't bother copyrighting as the subject has been tackled by many authors. BTW, did you know that Kepler's gig was creating charts for astrologers to use? It wasn't about plotting courses for safe traveling of ships. Some day human beings may evolve where they understand the larger cycles of nature and how they express themselves in society than they do today. Some astrologers believe that every time we go through heavy sunspot cycles society goes a bit nuts.
[FairfieldLife] The Prude Mindset defined...as psychological projection
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Re: [FairfieldLife] MILF Heaven
Bhairitu wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: Claudia Schiffer joins the ranks of Demi Moore and Angelina Jolie in proving that beautiful women get even more beautiful when they are pregnant in a recent photo essay for German Vogue at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/13/claudia-schiffers-many-ed_n_574\ 757.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/13/claudia-schiffers-many-ed_n_57\ 4757.html Perhaps they also get more spiritual. My favorite in the set of photos is this one of Claudia as a pregnant nun: Though not pregnant but an older actress: Annabelle Gish on last night's Flash Forward or have you given up on that show? ;-) Which has BTW been canceled: http://www.providingnews.com/flashforward-cancelled-low-ratings-the-cause.html I wonder if they will actually wrap things up or leave things hanging?
[FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
Bhairitu -- I'd say you've flat out been caught red-handed as a bullshitter. You put down my caveman night sky diary idea as trite and then cannot back up your play. I maintain the idea is unique. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: That's correct but he doesn't seem to get it. authfriend wrote: Edg, I think he's saying that lots of people have had lots of different ideas about how the ancients used astronomy. He doesn't think you should bother to copyright yours because nobody's going to want to steal it; they'll come up with their own idea instead--i.e., they're a dime a dozen. (Right, Bhairitu?) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Still non-responsive. Give a link. I googled it and found nothing -- pony up -- if you can't then your several responses that showed such certainty that the idea was well-worn must be bullshit. Keyword: diary. Read my essay -- sounds like a scanning didn't do it for you. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Chill out. I was not beating up on you. Just pointing out there have been plenty of such ideas already written about. I scanned your article and got the gist of it. Now go make some pitta tea and chill out. ;-) Duveyoung wrote: Did you or did you not read my entire essay? You are being non-responsive about the diary idea. Did you actually come across this concept before? Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: No, I did as an example of astrological theory. Duveyoung wrote: Sunspots? -- I never mentioned sunspots. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I was speaking about the concept. The article on the sunspots was in the Mountain Astrologer probably over a decade ago. Duveyoung wrote: Perhaps you could share a link with me? I don't think I've come across anyone every saying what I'm saying below -- the concept of the night sky being a personal diary. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Don't bother copyrighting as the subject has been tackled by many authors. BTW, did you know that Kepler's gig was creating charts for astrologers to use? It wasn't about plotting courses for safe traveling of ships. Some day human beings may evolve where they understand the larger cycles of nature and how they express themselves in society than they do today. Some astrologers believe that every time we go through heavy sunspot cycles society goes a bit nuts.
[FairfieldLife] Re: MILF Heaven
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Bhairitu wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: Claudia Schiffer joins the ranks of Demi Moore and Angelina Jolie in proving that beautiful women get even more beautiful when they are pregnant in a recent photo essay for German Vogue at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/13/claudia-schiffers-many-ed_n_574757.html Perhaps they also get more spiritual. My favorite in the set of photos is this one of Claudia as a pregnant nun: Though not pregnant but an older actress: Annabelle Gish on last night's Flash Forward or have you given up on that show? ;-) Haven't seen it. Still in Deadline Mode. :-( Which has BTW been canceled: http://www.providingnews.com/flashforward-cancelled-low-ratings-the-cause.html Sad. It was just gettin' good. I wonder if they will actually wrap things up or leave things hanging? Good question. And one of historical note, TV-wise. Pushing Daisies was definitely left hanging. Deadwood was sorta left hanging, but stands on its own anyway, as a complete Work Of Art. So does Kings. Firefly would have been left hanging, if it hadn't been for the efforts of many Browncoats such as myself that allowed Joss Whedon to make the needed sequel, Serenity. Dollhouse knew it was toast, and thus was allowed the chance to finish up with grace, as a complete Work Of Art.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Bhairitu -- I'd say you've flat out been caught red-handed as a bullshitter. You put down my caveman night sky diary idea as trite... What? No harsh words for me? :-) I dismissed your essay as trite without even reading it. Reading it was unnecessary: consider the source. Your *normal* stuff here is at best either egojibberish or drama queen hysterics or a combination of the two. So what would lead me or anyone else to expect less of something your ego felt attached enough to announce that you were copyrighting it? Dude...you're trying to get into it with someone who doesn't think you're nearly as brilliant or unique as you think you are. One would think that by this stage of your life you'd be used to that.
[FairfieldLife] For the Aging Hippies Here
Watched Commune the other night via Netflix watch instantly: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0439511/ It's the fascinating documentary of the Black Bear Commune up near Yreka in the 1960s and still going. Lots of interesting footage of the times and interviews with original founders including Peter Coyote and Michael Tierra (the herbalist). Interviews with the folks in 2005 who are still around from that commune. I don't recall Peter Coyote but he had to be part of the Grateful Dead crew with Rock Scully who I knew and visited our band house back about 1967 (before the commune started). Coyote's most recent gig is on FlashForward playing the US VP.
[FairfieldLife] Eddie Izzard on the Church Of England
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNjcuZ-LiSYfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Eddie Izzard on the Church Of England
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNjcuZ-LiSYfeature=related
[FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote: Bhairitu -- I'd say you've flat out been caught red-handed as a bullshitter. You put down my caveman night sky diary idea as trite... What? No harsh words for me? :-) I dismissed your essay as trite without even reading it. Sez Barry, trying *very* hard to get Edg to go after him, since his first attempt didn't work. snip Dude...you're trying to get into it with someone who doesn't think you're nearly as brilliant or unique as you think you are. Sorry, but Bhairitu said explicitly he wasn't beating up on Edg.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A new theory about how astronomy was used by the ancients.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_re...@... wrote: Bhairitu -- I'd say you've flat out been caught red-handed as a bullshitter. You put down my caveman night sky diary idea as trite and then cannot back up your play. I maintain the idea is unique. Edg. You aren't paying attention. He didn't say it was trite. Nor did he say it wasn't unique. You made that up. He just said--as I pointed out--that there were a lot of different stories.
[FairfieldLife] Re: For the Aging Hippies Here
Haven't seen commune and possibly won't because recollecting the Summer Of Love just isn't my idea of a Good Time, but I will riff for a moment on the Subject title. *Given* that some of us here are Aging Hippies. (Others missed hippie entirely, and are as much Wannabe Aging Hippies as they are Wannabe Maharishi Experts.) So what's more sad? Someone who got over their hippie ideals and consigned them to the Windows Recycle Bin Of Life, or those who still think that there was something fairly cool going on then, something that had value even if the drugs that fueled that revolution didn't?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
sounds about right --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: This is the reason why this city could be the cause of Armageddon, the next world war. It is likely that the US would be on the side of Israel since there are still fundamentalist Christians who believe that this war will be between the forces of good and evil, thus leading to the Second Coming of Christ and the Rapture. Also, there is a fairly strong Jewish influence in the US which will lobby the politicians to support the Israeli cause. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
That's it? LOL --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M Yes wonderful stuff. Religious elitism and entitlement at its best. Unapoligetic rights claimed to beat the shit out of anyone outside the clan. Imperialistic claims based on archaic myths -- or at best 3000 year old heretitary claims. Wonderful stuff. And i love israel, and it s entrepreneurial, semi-democratic, pioneer, spirit. I jsut abhor the militaristic, elitist, chauvanist, barbarian underbelly. My ancestors build and lived in one of the oldest castles in Europe, stretcch back more than 1000 years. We toiled hard, built our homeland. And through absolutely no fault of our own, we are always the victims, we one by one we were force to leave the castle. But every Christmas, while praying to our saviour and (and only true) lord who blessed us and made us f'ing better than all others, we said next year back at the castle. So last week, when we took the castle by force. sorry about the 500,000 dead -- it was collateral damage, we came HOME. It felt F'ing good. A 1000 year pilgramige back to the land that was deemed eternally OURS by our one true god. So F you world. We got ours, and we will beat the holy shit out of anyone who even thinks that we are not totally righteous -- and huge victims, simply claiming what is eternally our f'ing stuff.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
I jsut abhor the militaristic, elitist, chauvanist, barbarian underbelly. - You mean you abhor toughness, that's a personal issue I guess --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M Yes wonderful stuff. Religious elitism and entitlement at its best. Unapoligetic rights claimed to beat the shit out of anyone outside the clan. Imperialistic claims based on archaic myths -- or at best 3000 year old heretitary claims. Wonderful stuff. And i love israel, and it s entrepreneurial, semi-democratic, pioneer, spirit. I jsut abhor the militaristic, elitist, chauvanist, barbarian underbelly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: That's it? LOL Zionist Troll, thwarted. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M Yes wonderful stuff. Religious elitism and entitlement at its best. Unapoligetic rights claimed to beat the shit out of anyone outside the clan. Imperialistic claims based on archaic myths -- or at best 3000 year old heretitary claims. Wonderful stuff. And i love israel, and it s entrepreneurial, semi-democratic, pioneer, spirit. I jsut abhor the militaristic, elitist, chauvanist, barbarian underbelly. My ancestors build and lived in one of the oldest castles in Europe, stretcch back more than 1000 years. We toiled hard, built our homeland. And through absolutely no fault of our own, we are always the victims, we one by one we were force to leave the castle. But every Christmas, while praying to our saviour and (and only true) lord who blessed us and made us f'ing better than all others, we said next year back at the castle. So last week, when we took the castle by force. sorry about the 500,000 dead -- it was collateral damage, we came HOME. It felt F'ing good. A 1000 year pilgramige back to the land that was deemed eternally OURS by our one true god. So F you world. We got ours, and we will beat the holy shit out of anyone who even thinks that we are not totally righteous -- and huge victims, simply claiming what is eternally our f'ing stuff.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: This is the reason why this city could be the cause of Armageddon, the next world war. It is likely that the US would be on the side of Israel since there are still fundamentalist Christians who believe that this war will be between the forces of good and evil, thus leading to the Second Coming of Christ and the Rapture. What do these fundamentalist Christians say is going to happen to the Jews who don't accept Jesus as their Savior? Also, there is a fairly strong Jewish influence in the US which will lobby the politicians to support the Israeli cause. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M
[FairfieldLife] Re: For the Aging Hippies Here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: snip So what's more sad? Someone who got over their hippie ideals and consigned them to the Windows Recycle Bin Of Life, or those who still think that there was something fairly cool going on then, something that had value even if the drugs that fueled that revolution didn't? (What's sad about the latter? Did you get your rhetoric all tangled up again?) Some of us think the drugs had a tremendous value (the psychedelics, at any rate) and could still have enormous benefit if we could lose our stupid prejudices against them and learn to use them properly.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For the Aging Hippies Here
TurquoiseB wrote: Haven't seen commune and possibly won't because recollecting the Summer Of Love just isn't my idea of a Good Time, but I will riff for a moment on the Subject title. *Given* that some of us here are Aging Hippies. (Others missed hippie entirely, and are as much Wannabe Aging Hippies as they are Wannabe Maharishi Experts.) So what's more sad? Someone who got over their hippie ideals and consigned them to the Windows Recycle Bin Of Life, or those who still think that there was something fairly cool going on then, something that had value even if the drugs that fueled that revolution didn't? It's not really recreating nor celebrating the summer of love but more the history of the commune and what they went through to establish, how their kids grew up including interviews with them. There is quite a bit about how it wasn't really about getting high but hard work to make the place work and keep them fed as well as warm in the winter.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MILF Heaven
TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: Bhairitu wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: Claudia Schiffer joins the ranks of Demi Moore and Angelina Jolie in proving that beautiful women get even more beautiful when they are pregnant in a recent photo essay for German Vogue at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/13/claudia-schiffers-many-ed_n_574757.html Perhaps they also get more spiritual. My favorite in the set of photos is this one of Claudia as a pregnant nun: Though not pregnant but an older actress: Annabelle Gish on last night's Flash Forward or have you given up on that show? ;-) Haven't seen it. Still in Deadline Mode. :-( Which has BTW been canceled: http://www.providingnews.com/flashforward-cancelled-low-ratings-the-cause.html Sad. It was just gettin' good. I wonder if they will actually wrap things up or leave things hanging? Good question. And one of historical note, TV-wise. Pushing Daisies was definitely left hanging. Deadwood was sorta left hanging, but stands on its own anyway, as a complete Work Of Art. So does Kings. Firefly would have been left hanging, if it hadn't been for the efforts of many Browncoats such as myself that allowed Joss Whedon to make the needed sequel, Serenity. Dollhouse knew it was toast, and thus was allowed the chance to finish up with grace, as a complete Work Of Art. I also picked up the new re-release on Bluray of Drag Me to Hell. This one contains the unrated director's cut as well as some extras. The first release on DVD and Bluray was only the theatrical version which I thought had been softened a bit to make it PG-13. Both versions are listed with the same length though sometimes the box says one thing but the length the player gives you differs. Sometimes I wonder where they find these kids that produce the DVD and Bluray products.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
If your question is serious, read the story of Joseph in Genesis. Then substitute Jesus for Joseph and Joseph's brothers for the Jewish people, (really the Pharisees). Many students of prophecy believe that the Old Testament is the truth concealed and the New Testament is the Truth revealed. Both stories parallel each other very closely. Example, Joseph is sold into slavery by his jealous brothers for 30 pieces of silver. Joseph is falsely accused and thrown in prison but rises up to sit at the right hand of Pharaoh. Joseph's brothers realize and confess their sin against their father and brother. Joseph forgives them, seeing the greater divine plan, then brings his whole family into Egypt, saving them from famine and death, where they enjoy great prosperity. From: do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 3:52:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_...@... wrote: This is the reason why this city could be the cause of Armageddon, the next world war. It is likely that the US would be on the side of Israel since there are still fundamentalist Christians who believe that this war will be between the forces of good and evil, thus leading to the Second Coming of Christ and the Rapture. What do these fundamentalist Christians say is going to happen to the Jews who don't accept Jesus as their Savior? Also, there is a fairly strong Jewish influence in the US which will lobby the politicians to support the Israeli cause. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M
[FairfieldLife] Re: The next to go is kapitalism!?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: tartbrain wrote: These days, there are currently so many false artifacts, barnacles and sludge attached to actual capitalism I understand how some mistake these artifacts for the ship itself. And many mistake imperialism with capitalism and miscast appropriate seething remarks about imperialism on to capitalism. Its such an amusing muddle that many express. But the call for or joyous dancing about the fall of capitalism is a call to the end of the most potent transformation engine to rid the planet of poverty that has existed to this point in time. A call for the end of capitalism is a call to keep people shackled in poverty, to keep people subserviant, to keep people shackled, to keep people workin' on Maggie's Farm. Perhaps it makes sense. The TMO at its core (not the daily practice of TM) is essentially, or at its worst at least, a totalitarian regime -- where the peasants (all but a few nobility) dictated to as to how they could live their lives in excrutiating detail. Massive, intrusive micro-managing, total control, no dissent. So I do get it, the call to end actual capitalism (not the ugly artifacts clinging to it) is a call to keep people impoverished, in their place, and totally controllable. A totalitarian's wet dream. I just wish the advocates of such would be more honest in their intentions. I would say that the human race has shown it is not mature enough to handle capitalism. In its larger forms I would agree, Same thing with democracy. And the two are intertwined. much of the criticism, I have seen some here miss the point -- the current political-economy is highly warped and the result is that today we have type of cronyism, corrupt, buy-the- politicians, that allow immoral gangsters to run large companies. That is not capitalism -- which sadly many are confused about. But capitalism has small and large forms. The Bangladeshi mother of 6 who makes baskets -- previously in poverty having no capital -- becomes a thriving capitalist when micro-loans enable her to buy her materials wholesale, and secure sufficient profit from her mark-up to retail, that she can service the loan, build a better house /hut, provide regular meals, obtain clean water, buy a bicycle and cart, take her kids to the doctor, and buy and save for a rainy day. This is far better solution path to eradicating poverty than (often corrupt) government poverty programs. And its consistent with personal and social freedom. Such independent (of government control / programs) entrepeneur capitalists are far freer and less vulnerable to exploitation. Some larger forms of capitalism are somewhat good even in the context of the totally corrupt and broken political economy. Google, Apple, solar energy firms, etc. And the corruption you mention is hardly unique to false / veneer- capitalist economies. The former communist regimes were far more corrupt and environmentally damaging than the veneer-capitalists of today. Such corruption is not unique to any system. Like Twain (I think said) Democracy (same for capitalism)is a great system. We ought to try it sometime. Which is so true -- what we have now is hardly democracy and hardly capitalism. We have in many cases corrupt immoral gangsters running large companies. That has nothing to do with capitalism and its sad when people are blind to it. But I don't think Nabby nor I are speaking about the corner store businessman. I am. That is a great form of capitalism. That people are pissing all over it is sad. We're speaking about the assholes that run major corporations Gangsters are not capitalists. with only an eye for profits while stomping on the earth's environment and on a whim putting people INTO poverty. And size is an issue. Capitalism works best with many small producers and retail firms. Diverse, robust, diffused, distributed, many nodes on the network, etc. Size is a problem and the anti-trust laws need to be revisited and enforced. There's no need for any totalitarianism to solve the problem. You just limit how big a corporation can be, how long it can exist. Ah, so we agree on something. You also don't allow people to build massive concentrated wealth. It is inexcusable to have 1% of the population own 95% of the wealth. They start behaving arrogantly and thing God deemed them to be our rulers. Fuck that. Well best to fuck the culture that creates that. Immorality has nothing to do with capitalism. Personal values are deeply dark across all nations and economies -- though the rise in philanthropic work is encouraging. A successful capitalist who donates his money to foundations is a great thing. To say all capitalists are immorally gluttonously greedy simply denies this fact. its silly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The next to go is kapitalism!?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiZtPTLuPtw Indeed. The final collaps of capitalism has begun. Please remember that this is a good thing for ordinary people and a bad thing only for those who live on the fruit of other peoples sweat and toil. This is the long awaited new beginning, a dream come true, happening right in front of our eyes, and the main reason Maharishi incarnated on this planet; to make this transformation possible and to make it as smooth as possible. Do not be afraid, this is a very good thing, the outcome is marvelous ! And Maitrey is now in the world to help and guide during this huge transformation. I find this such an odd view. Fine, but the final meldown of capitalism has begun wheter you like it, find it it odd or not. No the meltdown of corruption and immorality has begun to melt down. You confuse that with capitalism. Just as Maharishi predicted. Ha. maharishi was a capitalist and business man (a compliment in many ways) all the way -- There is a huge body of other predictions by His Holiness which your limited smallminded state of being surely will find odd as well but which nevertheless is materialising as we speak. One in particular comes to mind, no less mind-boggeling: I see that divine love and universal consiousness has expanded your vision and consciousness to vast and magnificent levels. M would be so proud of you. By the way, ever hear M swpeak about caviling? You appear to have missed that one. Heaven will walk on earth in this generation - Maharishi
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jerusalem Forever
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_re...@... wrote: I jsut abhor the militaristic, elitist, chauvanist, barbarian underbelly. - You mean you abhor toughness, that's a personal issue I guess If you watched the videos I posted in response to yours, and you call that toughness -- as in being a good thing -- you have pretty much confirmed all of my points. Thanks -- you have made your position abundantly clear for all to see. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge no_reply@ wrote: I expect squirming from the usual suspects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YPKnXi10M Yes wonderful stuff. Religious elitism and entitlement at its best. Unapoligetic rights claimed to beat the shit out of anyone outside the clan. Imperialistic claims based on archaic myths -- or at best 3000 year old heretitary claims. Wonderful stuff. And i love israel, and it s entrepreneurial, semi-democratic, pioneer, spirit. I jsut abhor the militaristic, elitist, chauvanist, barbarian underbelly.
[FairfieldLife] Re: For the Aging Hippies Here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip So what's more sad? Someone who got over their hippie ideals and consigned them to the Windows Recycle Bin Of Life, or those who still think that there was something fairly cool going on then, something that had value even if the drugs that fueled that revolution didn't? (What's sad about the latter? Did you get your rhetoric all tangled up again?) Some of us think the drugs had a tremendous value (the psychedelics, at any rate) and could still have enormous benefit if we could lose our stupid prejudices against them and learn to use them properly. Wanted to add: Medical marijuana is a start. I just worked on a book with a big section on the various conditions marijuana is good for--not just pain and insomnia relief and appetite improvement but actual curative effects. And there's renewed interest in research using LSD, psilocybin, and MDM (Ecstasy) in psychotherapy. With any luck, the experimentation that fueled the revolution will result in these beneficial drugs making a comeback after a period underground. And that might fuel a new revolution, one that's even cooler because its idealism is more solidly grounded, and maybe lead to a new wave of spiritual renewal via meditation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The next to go is kapitalism!?
tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: tartbrain wrote: These days, there are currently so many false artifacts, barnacles and sludge attached to actual capitalism I understand how some mistake these artifacts for the ship itself. And many mistake imperialism with capitalism and miscast appropriate seething remarks about imperialism on to capitalism. Its such an amusing muddle that many express. But the call for or joyous dancing about the fall of capitalism is a call to the end of the most potent transformation engine to rid the planet of poverty that has existed to this point in time. A call for the end of capitalism is a call to keep people shackled in poverty, to keep people subserviant, to keep people shackled, to keep people workin' on Maggie's Farm. Perhaps it makes sense. The TMO at its core (not the daily practice of TM) is essentially, or at its worst at least, a totalitarian regime -- where the peasants (all but a few nobility) dictated to as to how they could live their lives in excrutiating detail. Massive, intrusive micro-managing, total control, no dissent. So I do get it, the call to end actual capitalism (not the ugly artifacts clinging to it) is a call to keep people impoverished, in their place, and totally controllable. A totalitarian's wet dream. I just wish the advocates of such would be more honest in their intentions. I would say that the human race has shown it is not mature enough to handle capitalism. In its larger forms I would agree, Same thing with democracy. And the two are intertwined. much of the criticism, I have seen some here miss the point -- the current political-economy is highly warped and the result is that today we have type of cronyism, corrupt, buy-the- politicians, that allow immoral gangsters to run large companies. That is not capitalism -- which sadly many are confused about. But capitalism has small and large forms. The Bangladeshi mother of 6 who makes baskets -- previously in poverty having no capital -- becomes a thriving capitalist when micro-loans enable her to buy her materials wholesale, and secure sufficient profit from her mark-up to retail, that she can service the loan, build a better house /hut, provide regular meals, obtain clean water, buy a bicycle and cart, take her kids to the doctor, and buy and save for a rainy day. This is far better solution path to eradicating poverty than (often corrupt) government poverty programs. And its consistent with personal and social freedom. Such independent (of government control / programs) entrepeneur capitalists are far freer and less vulnerable to exploitation. I watched a good documentary Dabbawallas on PBS last night which was produced in 2005 but had a recent epilogue added. It explores how this works well in India and now in the US in New York (lunches delivered for $5). Check your local PBS station listing for a scheduled airing of the documentary.
[FairfieldLife] One more step closer to Big Brother
Now they want to enlist parking attendants to snoop through your car? The program is part of a larger effort by the government since 9/11 to enlist ordinary people — airline passengers, subway riders, bus drivers, truckers, doormen, building superintendents — to serve as the eyes and ears of law enforcement. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37154988/ns/us_news-security/ So the attendant figures you didn't tip him enough last time and plants pot in your car and reports you. This is all too Orwellian. I thought we fought some wars against this kind of shit. To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: For the Aging Hippies Here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jst...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip So what's more sad? Someone who got over their hippie ideals and consigned them to the Windows Recycle Bin Of Life, or those who still think that there was something fairly cool going on then, something that had value even if the drugs that fueled that revolution didn't? (What's sad about the latter? Did you get your rhetoric all tangled up again?) Some of us think the drugs had a tremendous value (the psychedelics, at any rate) and could still have enormous benefit if we could lose our stupid prejudices against them and learn to use them properly. Wanted to add: Medical marijuana is a start. I just worked on a book with a big section on the various conditions marijuana is good for--not just pain and insomnia relief and appetite improvement but actual curative effects. And there's renewed interest in research using LSD, psilocybin, and MDM (Ecstasy) in psychotherapy. Its actually happening. A number of experimental / research programs have been approved and are functioning. good article in NY times with the last month. With any luck, the experimentation that fueled the revolution will result in these beneficial drugs making a comeback after a period underground. And that might fuel a new revolution, one that's even cooler because its idealism is more solidly grounded, and maybe lead to a new wave of spiritual renewal via meditation. On the theme of facades from prior posts, veneer-captitalism, veneer-democracy, we also have a facade of freedom. True freer than totalitarian regimes past and present, but hardly free. Its a god-given (excuse me curtis) inalienable right for people to pursue liberty, liberation, spiritual discovery and happiness in any and all ways they deem useful -- if they do not explicitly harm or endanger others. And dangers can be minimized with Drug Licenses. You take a course, read some books, -- on effects, dangers, physiological effects, dosing, chemistry, neuro-biology of drugs and take a test. When you have your license, you can go to the pharmacy and buy what ever you are licensed to have (that is, there will be different grades of license -- for casual weekenders to dedicated explorers.
[FairfieldLife] Rise of Dabbawala Capitalism as AoE Brightens (was next to go kapitalism!?)
Thanks. Here are some related links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dabbawala http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/29/business/worldbusiness/29lunch.html http://www.evolvingexcellence.com/blog/2007/06/dabbawallas_ups.html http://www.cmu.edu/cmnews/extra/050831_pbs.html http://www.physorg.com/news70641995.html --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozg...@... wrote: tartbrain wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: tartbrain wrote: These days, there are currently so many false artifacts, barnacles and sludge attached to actual capitalism I understand how some mistake these artifacts for the ship itself. And many mistake imperialism with capitalism and miscast appropriate seething remarks about imperialism on to capitalism. Its such an amusing muddle that many express. But the call for or joyous dancing about the fall of capitalism is a call to the end of the most potent transformation engine to rid the planet of poverty that has existed to this point in time. A call for the end of capitalism is a call to keep people shackled in poverty, to keep people subserviant, to keep people shackled, to keep people workin' on Maggie's Farm. Perhaps it makes sense. The TMO at its core (not the daily practice of TM) is essentially, or at its worst at least, a totalitarian regime -- where the peasants (all but a few nobility) dictated to as to how they could live their lives in excrutiating detail. Massive, intrusive micro-managing, total control, no dissent. So I do get it, the call to end actual capitalism (not the ugly artifacts clinging to it) is a call to keep people impoverished, in their place, and totally controllable. A totalitarian's wet dream. I just wish the advocates of such would be more honest in their intentions. I would say that the human race has shown it is not mature enough to handle capitalism. In its larger forms I would agree, Same thing with democracy. And the two are intertwined. much of the criticism, I have seen some here miss the point -- the current political-economy is highly warped and the result is that today we have type of cronyism, corrupt, buy-the- politicians, that allow immoral gangsters to run large companies. That is not capitalism -- which sadly many are confused about. But capitalism has small and large forms. The Bangladeshi mother of 6 who makes baskets -- previously in poverty having no capital -- becomes a thriving capitalist when micro-loans enable her to buy her materials wholesale, and secure sufficient profit from her mark-up to retail, that she can service the loan, build a better house /hut, provide regular meals, obtain clean water, buy a bicycle and cart, take her kids to the doctor, and buy and save for a rainy day. This is far better solution path to eradicating poverty than (often corrupt) government poverty programs. And its consistent with personal and social freedom. Such independent (of government control / programs) entrepeneur capitalists are far freer and less vulnerable to exploitation. I watched a good documentary Dabbawallas on PBS last night which was produced in 2005 but had a recent epilogue added. It explores how this works well in India and now in the US in New York (lunches delivered for $5). Check your local PBS station listing for a scheduled airing of the documentary.
