[FairfieldLife] Re: Q.E.D.

[card]

FWIW, perhaps (straight?) men are genetically predisposed to
tell lies, especially sweet ones... :o



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@ wrote:
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
  snip
   Although, you have to admit that it's amusing from
   a psychology/sociology point of view. I'm amused by
   the phenomenon I call throwing oneself on the turd.
   It's similar to that staple of war movies in which
   the hero (soon to be ex-hero) throws himself on the
   grenade to save his buddies, but in the FFL version
   it's what happens when one of the clique either
   suffers from poor impulse control or consciously
   decides to sacrifice themselves to get in one last
   barb at the Common Enemy, even though they know that
   it'll cause them to post out and sit on the Stupid
   People's Bench for a week.
  
  Ha ha, you mean solitary suicidal post-outs? That's what I
  like about you, you immediately get the references I am
  making, and still top it.
 
 Actually Barry knows there is no such thing as the solitary
 suicidal post-outs he describes. Bit of love-bombing there.
 
 snip
  The same can apply here. Just use few words, as you say,
  throw a bone, and watch the dog gripping it. Don't
  convince by words, demonstrate. Start the dance, and then
  stop in the middle of it. This is a technique Gurdjieff
  employed. Give the attention, and then withdraw it.
  Talking about detachment.
 
 LOL. Very little detachment around here, certainly none
 from Barry or khazana.
 
 snip
   Speaking of interesting psychological/sociological
   phenomena, have you ever noticed that folks who
   talk the most about forgiveness and its healing
   power are coincidentally the same folks who hold
   onto grudges the longest, and keep demanding 
   apologies from others for offenses supposedly
   committed weeks, months, or years ago? What's up
   with that, too?
  
  Now, I don't know, but I myself never asked or demanded an
  apology by anyone online.
 
 Oh, but you missed the point. Barry was referring to your
 pal Share, who constantly babbles about forgiveness.
 Nobody else here does that.
 
  So I don't really understand it. It's the same with that 
  epithet 'Liar'.  I just don't get it. I have written years
  ago, many years ago, that I think that it's something
  American to call each other Liar. I think its less of a sin
  to lie in Europe.
 
 Great, that's all we need, for lying to be considered less
 of a sin.
 
  I wrote it off to reflect something of American puritanism.
 
 Honesty = puritanism? That's a new one on me. But I can
 see why it would appeal to people like Barry and khazana
 (and Curtis and Vaj) to characterize honesty as puritanical.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Q.E.D.

[card]

Perhaps I ought to add that the lying gene probably
is located in the Y chromosome!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote:

 
 FWIW, perhaps (straight?) men are genetically predisposed to
 tell lies, especially sweet ones... :o
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@ wrote:
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
   
   snip
Although, you have to admit that it's amusing from
a psychology/sociology point of view. I'm amused by
the phenomenon I call throwing oneself on the turd.
It's similar to that staple of war movies in which
the hero (soon to be ex-hero) throws himself on the
grenade to save his buddies, but in the FFL version
it's what happens when one of the clique either
suffers from poor impulse control or consciously
decides to sacrifice themselves to get in one last
barb at the Common Enemy, even though they know that
it'll cause them to post out and sit on the Stupid
People's Bench for a week.
   
   Ha ha, you mean solitary suicidal post-outs? That's what I
   like about you, you immediately get the references I am
   making, and still top it.
  
  Actually Barry knows there is no such thing as the solitary
  suicidal post-outs he describes. Bit of love-bombing there.
  
  snip
   The same can apply here. Just use few words, as you say,
   throw a bone, and watch the dog gripping it. Don't
   convince by words, demonstrate. Start the dance, and then
   stop in the middle of it. This is a technique Gurdjieff
   employed. Give the attention, and then withdraw it.
   Talking about detachment.
  
  LOL. Very little detachment around here, certainly none
  from Barry or khazana.
  
  snip
Speaking of interesting psychological/sociological
phenomena, have you ever noticed that folks who
talk the most about forgiveness and its healing
power are coincidentally the same folks who hold
onto grudges the longest, and keep demanding 
apologies from others for offenses supposedly
committed weeks, months, or years ago? What's up
with that, too?
   
   Now, I don't know, but I myself never asked or demanded an
   apology by anyone online.
  
  Oh, but you missed the point. Barry was referring to your
  pal Share, who constantly babbles about forgiveness.
  Nobody else here does that.
  
   So I don't really understand it. It's the same with that 
   epithet 'Liar'.  I just don't get it. I have written years
   ago, many years ago, that I think that it's something
   American to call each other Liar. I think its less of a sin
   to lie in Europe.
  
  Great, that's all we need, for lying to be considered less
  of a sin.
  
   I wrote it off to reflect something of American puritanism.
  
  Honesty = puritanism? That's a new one on me. But I can
  see why it would appeal to people like Barry and khazana
  (and Curtis and Vaj) to characterize honesty as puritanical.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Objective Is Your Subjectivity? A Quiz to Xeno

[Robin Carlsen]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Look, you are annoying. Don't you realize that. 
 
 They're trying to be. Don't you realize that?  :-)
 
 The Judy-Robin-raunchy-oxcart game yesterday was to
 KEEP YOU ARGUING WITH THEM. 
 
 There was no other purpose to it. The way they think,
 if they can keep you wasting your time dealing with
 their nitpicks and their crap, they win. None of 
 the content of what they say matters a bit; it's
 just a ploy to keep you interacting and arguing
 with them. 
 
 In a very real sense, they're using you to masturbate
 with. You're the batteries in their vibrator. 
 
 If that image doesn't disgust you enough to stop
 playing their game, nothing will. :-)  :-)  :-)

The only reason why the cops arrested the bank robbers was because they just 
don't want them to spend that money.

The reason Obama will do better in the next debate is because he's such a sore 
loser.

The reason why mothers put diapers on a baby is because they just like to look 
at the baby poo up-close.

If lie detectors are so good why don't they find some way to give a lie 
detector a lie detector test?

Birds fly because they're afraid of walking.

The only reason a man falls in love with a woman is because he feels sorry for 
her lack of masculinity.

The earth goes around the sun because it's trying to make the sun dizzy.

The reason David Letterman mocks Jay Leno is because Leno has so many more cars 
than Letterman does.

The only reason raunchy seems so funny is because she doesn't really have a 
sense of humour.

The only reason there is a tomorrow is because today is going to become so 
yesterday.

The only reason Trigger died was because Gene Autry hated him.

The only reason bullies get such a hard time is because their victims can't 
take it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Q.E.D.

[card]

Hmmm... that's why most of the male lying takes place whilst lain???


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote:

 
 Perhaps I ought to add that the lying gene probably
 is located in the Y chromosome!
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@ wrote:
 
  
  FWIW, perhaps (straight?) men are genetically predisposed to
  tell lies, especially sweet ones... :o
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@ wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:

snip
 Although, you have to admit that it's amusing from
 a psychology/sociology point of view. I'm amused by
 the phenomenon I call throwing oneself on the turd.
 It's similar to that staple of war movies in which
 the hero (soon to be ex-hero) throws himself on the
 grenade to save his buddies, but in the FFL version
 it's what happens when one of the clique either
 suffers from poor impulse control or consciously
 decides to sacrifice themselves to get in one last
 barb at the Common Enemy, even though they know that
 it'll cause them to post out and sit on the Stupid
 People's Bench for a week.

Ha ha, you mean solitary suicidal post-outs? That's what I
like about you, you immediately get the references I am
making, and still top it.
   
   Actually Barry knows there is no such thing as the solitary
   suicidal post-outs he describes. Bit of love-bombing there.
   
   snip
The same can apply here. Just use few words, as you say,
throw a bone, and watch the dog gripping it. Don't
convince by words, demonstrate. Start the dance, and then
stop in the middle of it. This is a technique Gurdjieff
employed. Give the attention, and then withdraw it.
Talking about detachment.
   
   LOL. Very little detachment around here, certainly none
   from Barry or khazana.
   
   snip
 Speaking of interesting psychological/sociological
 phenomena, have you ever noticed that folks who
 talk the most about forgiveness and its healing
 power are coincidentally the same folks who hold
 onto grudges the longest, and keep demanding 
 apologies from others for offenses supposedly
 committed weeks, months, or years ago? What's up
 with that, too?

Now, I don't know, but I myself never asked or demanded an
apology by anyone online.
   
   Oh, but you missed the point. Barry was referring to your
   pal Share, who constantly babbles about forgiveness.
   Nobody else here does that.
   
So I don't really understand it. It's the same with that 
epithet 'Liar'.  I just don't get it. I have written years
ago, many years ago, that I think that it's something
American to call each other Liar. I think its less of a sin
to lie in Europe.
   
   Great, that's all we need, for lying to be considered less
   of a sin.
   
I wrote it off to reflect something of American puritanism.
   
   Honesty = puritanism? That's a new one on me. But I can
   see why it would appeal to people like Barry and khazana
   (and Curtis and Vaj) to characterize honesty as puritanical.
  
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Q.E.D.

[card]

Sorry, wrong tense? So, most male lying happens whilst lying???


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote:

 
 Hmmm... that's why most of the male lying takes place whilst lain???
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@ wrote:
 
  
  Perhaps I ought to add that the lying gene probably
  is located in the Y chromosome!
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@ wrote:
  
   
   FWIW, perhaps (straight?) men are genetically predisposed to
   tell lies, especially sweet ones... :o
   
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@ wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
 snip
  Although, you have to admit that it's amusing from
  a psychology/sociology point of view. I'm amused by
  the phenomenon I call throwing oneself on the turd.
  It's similar to that staple of war movies in which
  the hero (soon to be ex-hero) throws himself on the
  grenade to save his buddies, but in the FFL version
  it's what happens when one of the clique either
  suffers from poor impulse control or consciously
  decides to sacrifice themselves to get in one last
  barb at the Common Enemy, even though they know that
  it'll cause them to post out and sit on the Stupid
  People's Bench for a week.
 
 Ha ha, you mean solitary suicidal post-outs? That's what I
 like about you, you immediately get the references I am
 making, and still top it.

Actually Barry knows there is no such thing as the solitary
suicidal post-outs he describes. Bit of love-bombing there.

snip
 The same can apply here. Just use few words, as you say,
 throw a bone, and watch the dog gripping it. Don't
 convince by words, demonstrate. Start the dance, and then
 stop in the middle of it. This is a technique Gurdjieff
 employed. Give the attention, and then withdraw it.
 Talking about detachment.

LOL. Very little detachment around here, certainly none
from Barry or khazana.

snip
  Speaking of interesting psychological/sociological
  phenomena, have you ever noticed that folks who
  talk the most about forgiveness and its healing
  power are coincidentally the same folks who hold
  onto grudges the longest, and keep demanding 
  apologies from others for offenses supposedly
  committed weeks, months, or years ago? What's up
  with that, too?
 
 Now, I don't know, but I myself never asked or demanded an
 apology by anyone online.

Oh, but you missed the point. Barry was referring to your
pal Share, who constantly babbles about forgiveness.
Nobody else here does that.

 So I don't really understand it. It's the same with that 
 epithet 'Liar'.  I just don't get it. I have written years
 ago, many years ago, that I think that it's something
 American to call each other Liar. I think its less of a sin
 to lie in Europe.

Great, that's all we need, for lying to be considered less
of a sin.

 I wrote it off to reflect something of American puritanism.

Honesty = puritanism? That's a new one on me. But I can
see why it would appeal to people like Barry and khazana
(and Curtis and Vaj) to characterize honesty as puritanical.
   
  
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Objective Is Your Subjectivity? A Quiz to Xeno

[Robin Carlsen]

A thing whose existing is other than its essence has its existence caused by 
another. God is the first efficient cause, and therefore his essence cannot be 
distinct from his existence.

Existence is the actuality of every form and nature. Goodness and humanity do 
not signify actual things unless they refer to existents. Existence, therefore, 
is related to essence as actuality to potentiality. Since there is nothing 
potential in God, for he is motionless, his essence is not distinct from 
existence: on the contrary, his essence is his existence.

That which has existence, but is not existence, is a being by sharing. Were the 
divine essence not the divine existence, God would be an existent by borrowing 
and not by owning. He would not be the first being.

 WALLACE STEVENS to his wife, 19 July 1916

*Eminent Vers Libriste
 Arrives in Town
Details of Reception*

St Paul, Minn. July 19, 1916. Wallace Stevens, the playwright and barrister, 
arrived at Union Station, at 10:30 o'clock this morning. Some thirty 
representatives of the press were not present to greet him. He proceeded on 
foot to the Hotel St. Paul, where they had no room for him. Thereupon, carrying 
an umbrella and two mysterious looking bags, he proceeded to Minnesota Club, 
4th  Washington-Streets, St. Paul, where he will stay while he is in St. Paul. 
At the Club, Mr Stevens took a shower-bath and succeeded in flooding not only 
the bath-room floor but the bed-room floor as well. He used all the bath-towels 
in mopping up the mess and was obliged to dry himself with a wash-cloth. From 
the Club, Mr. Stevens went down-town on business. When asked how he liked St. 
Paul, Mr. Stevens, borrowing a cigar, said, 'I like it'.

Dear Bud:

The above clipping may be of interest to you. Note my address. I am waiting for 
some papers to be typed--ah! Give my best to the family.

With love,
Wallace



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Look, you are annoying. Don't you realize that. 
 
 They're trying to be. Don't you realize that?  :-)
 
 The Judy-Robin-raunchy-oxcart game yesterday was to
 KEEP YOU ARGUING WITH THEM. 
 
 There was no other purpose to it. The way they think,
 if they can keep you wasting your time dealing with
 their nitpicks and their crap, they win. None of 
 the content of what they say matters a bit; it's
 just a ploy to keep you interacting and arguing
 with them. 
 
 In a very real sense, they're using you to masturbate
 with. You're the batteries in their vibrator. 
 
 If that image doesn't disgust you enough to stop
 playing their game, nothing will. :-)  :-)  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Why Y's inefficient selection?

[card]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_chromosome

Inefficient selection
Without the ability to recombine during meiosis, the Y chromosome is unable to 
expose individual alleles to natural selection. Deleterious alleles are allowed 
to hitchhike with beneficial neighbors, thus propagating maladapted alleles 
in to the next generation. Conversely, advantageous alleles may be selected 
against if they are surrounded by harmful alleles (background selection). Due 
to this inability to sort through its gene content, the Y chromosome is 
particularly prone to the accumulation of junk DNA. Massive accumulations of 
retrotransposable elements are scattered throughout the Y.[7] The random 
insertion of DNA segments often disrupts encoded gene sequences and renders 
them nonfunctional. However, the Y chromosome has no way of weeding out these 
jumping genes. Without the ability to isolate alleles, selection cannot 
effectively act upon them.
A clear, quantitative indication of this inefficiency is the entropy rate of 
the Y chromosome. Whereas all other chromosomes in the human genome have 
entropy rates of 1.5–1.9 bits per nucleotide (compared to the theoretical 
maximum of exactly 2 for no redundancy), the Y chromosome's entropy rate is 
only 0.84.[14] This means the Y chromosome has a much lower information content 
relative to its overall length; it is more redundant.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles

[Buck]

Life is found in layers.
 
 Outer depends on inner.
  
  Water the root to enjoy the fruit.
   
   Rest and Activity are the steps of progress.

Enjoy and accomplish more. 
 
 Every action has a reaction.
  
  Purification leads to progress.
   
   The field of all possibilities is the source of all solutions.

Thought leads to action.
 
 Action leads to achievement. 
  
  Achievement leads to fulfillment.
   
   Knowledge is gained from inside and outside.

The world is as we are.
 
 Opposites are found together. 
  
  The whole is found in every part.
  
   The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
  
 

   
  
 

   
  
 

   
  
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Objective Is Your Subjectivity? A Quiz to Xeno

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I already regret having ever made the post. I should have listened
  to Barry. Well, Robin, I suggest we both delete our respective
  dialogues here, and just forget about it, yes? It never happened.
  Were others were quoting our posts, we just ask Alex to delete, you
  agree? I will be waiting for your agreement.
  
 
 Here's an idea! Why don't you dumbass ego monkeys just fucking think before 
 posting instead of just assuming that I'm here to waste my time deleting 
 shitstorms of your creation. Back in August, I had to delete any post 
 referencing a person who posted here for a time, and it ended up taking me an 
 hour and a half straight to search for and delete the several hundred posts. 
 That really pissed me off. The attitude of Oh, we can just get Alex to 
 delete it needs to go. Oh, you don't want something to be in the archive? 
 Then don't fucking put it there in the first place.


Alex, what prompted that?  Why did you bother then? Alex writes:Back in 
August, I had to delete any post referencing a person who posted here for a 
time, and it ended up taking me an hour and a half straight to search for and 
delete the several hundred posts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: California Microclimates

[Share Long]

Nothing wrong with becoming one in this lifetime.  But dharma of another brings 
danger.  

Nothing wrong IMO with coming back for many more lifetimes.  


Yeah, I'm probably almost always a little vata vitiated.  It's the culture 
too.  OTOH, life is rich, full of all kinds of innuendos and subtleties and 
ironies.  


In any case, Dome is always a good idea.  win win




 From: oxcart49 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 10:24 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: California Microclimates
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 I think I'm gonna have to reincarnate one more time just so I can become a 
 meteorologist or climatologist.

What's wrong with becoming one in this lifetime? I think you still have a few 
years left. It takes on average 5 years to become qualified in this field. It 
seems easier than dying, figuring out how to incarnate into a body that would 
have the desire to come back and begin studying the field of weather, coming of 
age to start your studies and then finally gaining expertise in that field. 
Don't you think?

  I love reading about this kind of phenomena.  But somehow this post got 
mixed up with some other posts.  And suddenly I was thinking of different 
posters as microclimates.  Will leave the rest to respective imaginations.  
PS  FWIW, noozG, I wonder if that hygienist wasn't flirting with you a bit...

You seem a big scattered today Share. One minute it is desiring to reincarnate, 
the next you are mixing up all sorts of posts, then you are imagining posters 
as weather systems and finally you fixate on dental hygienists and sexual 
innuendoes that may have occurred during teeth scaling. Maybe a return to the 
Dome would be in order.
 
 
 
 
  From: Bhairitu noozguru@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 4:03 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] California Microclimates
 
 
   
 Since Turq talked about Dutch rain and because my furnace kicked on this 
 morning for the first time since last spring I thought I would talk a 
 bit about the perplexing microclimates we have around here. Yup, at 
 around 6 AM the temperate was 46 degrees.  We've had overcast and even 
 little rain on Weds.  The sky was clear this morning so it was colder. 
 This prompted me to dress heavier for my walk at the waterfront park. 
 Bad idea.  I was overdressed and shorts and t-shirt would have worked 
 fine.  In fact I removed my warmup jacket after the walk to enjoy the 
 sunny patio at Starbucks.
 
 One never knows whether to trust the reported temperature or not. It can 
 go both ways: warm at the house and cold at the waterfront park or vice 
 versa.  I've been walking in the neighborhood the last few days and even 
 with a warm-up suit it was a little chilly.  This afternoon it should 
 hit the high 70s.



 

[FairfieldLife] Making Someone Your Bitch

[turquoiseb]

I walked into this pub to get out of the rain, but it turns out to be a
pretty writer-friendly pub, featuring Westmalle and Murphy's Irish Red
and WiFi, and it's dry, so what is not to like? Besides, I find myself
sitting under a poster that shows a fairly distinguished old Scot
sitting in his leather chair in front of the fireplace, dressed in a
classic three-piece tweed suit, smoking a pipe. In front of him are two
large dogs. The ad copy to the right of the photo reads, I love Irn-Bru
and so do my bitches.

 
[http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_117/1175855/file/irn-b\
ru-bitches-small-28446.jpg]
http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_117/1175855/file/irn-br\
u-bitches-small-28446.jpg
http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_117/1175855/file/irn-b\
ru-bitches-small-28446.jpg

Irn-Bru, for those not of Scot heritage, is Scotland's second-favorite
beverage, after...duh...Scotch. It's a soft drink, and a thoroughly
loathsome one from my point of view, with a color that looks like
someone took one of those fluorescent orange road signs and distilled it
and put it into a bottle. And with a taste to match. So I ordered a
Scotch.

But the poster has given me something to write about on this rainy
Sunday afternoon, so cool.

The poster makes me realize that I don't really know what someone means
when they say they're going make someone their bitch. It gets said a
lot, especially on American television, but as I sit here I realize that
I'm not sure what is meant by that phrase.

Is the person saying it a wizard, and about to turn the victim into a
female dog? If the victim is a woman, is the person threatening to turn
her more nasty and insensitive? Why would anyone want to do that?
Perhaps Curtis can help me out here, and explain how this phrase is used
in the 'hood.

Me, about the only thing I can relate it to is a particular behavioral
pattern that is common on the Internet. In my somewhat subjective
definition of making someone your bitch, it's kinda synonymous with
what other people call trolling.

The mechanics of making someone your bitch on the Internet involve using
whatever works -- *whatever* works -- to capture the victim's attention
and *hold onto it*. Another term I've heard applied to this behavioral
pattern is attention vampirism. As far as I can tell, having been a
veteran of the Internet since before it was called that and went by the
name of Arpanet, the goal of this behavior is best expressed by the last
of the three terms.

Some attempt to capture the attention they seek by being needy, others
by being abusive, still others by trying to suck someone into an
intellectual argument, and yet others by picking nits and urging the
victim to pick back. But don't get me wrong...all of these behaviors can
be fairly benevolent and inoffensive, if practiced in moderation.

How you can tell when it's gone over the line into
not-quite-as-benevolent and offensive is to watch what happens when the
victim wishes to withdraw from the thing that the perpetrator has come
to think of as a relationship.

If the perpetrator allows the victim to leave, without any nasty
parting shots, it's still in my book benevolent and inoffensive. But
if the perp throws a snit fit and gets pissy, he or she is IMO trying to
make someone his or her bitch, and is pissed off that it isn't working.

What happens next is often sad to watch. Fans of the term attention
vampirism liken it to watching an old vampire realize that although
he's never grown old he *has* grown toothless, and his lunch is about to
walk away undrained. Others just act as if they've been dumped, even
though there was no real relationship other than a few exchanged posts
between two people who have never met and in all likelihood never will.
Still others act as if the other person has committed some kind of
mortal sin by choosing not to interact with them any more, and that they
should either repent and *apologize* for their sin, or be punished for
it. And yet others turn into stalkers, hounding the person who walked
away and refused to be their bitch for weeks. Or months. Or years. Or
decades, in extreme cases.

Go figure. I just don't understand it. I'm not terribly possessive when
it comes to relationships, much less those fleeting and transitory ones
I form on the Net. Ask my former girlfriends; those who dumped me will
testify that I'm the easiest boyfriend in the world to break up with. If
they tell me that they want to tune the knob a few notches back and
just be friends, I take them at their word and become their friend. In
the rare case where they've told me that they're moving on and don't
want any contact from me or anyone else in their past, I have allowed
them to do so. I have no idea what became of either of them, and have
never been tempted to stalk them on the Net to try to find out. It was
their absolute right to move on when they felt the need to do so, and I
support that right and wish them well on their Way.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shri Chakra found on Mars

[Share Long]

I think there was one meta analysis indicating that the factor determining TM's 
effectiveness is its effortlessness.  I'd guess that Benson and others were and 
are smart enough to pick up on that factor.   


I've taken Ved and Physiology twice.  Are you referring to watching the model 
when you speak about effortless mindful TM? 


I'm not familiar with Centering Prayer.  Perhaps the Catholics found some root 
of it in their own heritage and thus didn't feel an attribution was needed.  In 
any case, Phil is a very interesting guy.  I would guess he still does TM and 
feels gratitude for that.  But he's appreciative of other systems too.  So not 
a conservative TMer in that sense.




 From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 9:31 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shri Chakra found on Mars
 

  


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 
 Just came from Phillip Goldberg's book signing for American Veda.  Standing 
 Room Only upstairs in Revelations Bookstore and Cafe.  Humorous, 
 intelligent, humble man who began TM and has come to appreciate how all the 
 systems have benefited Western culture.  He interviewed over 300 people.  I 
 think even the most rigorous of the FFL scholars would enjoy his book. 
 


Yep, Phil Goldberg.
It was interesting how upset he was with the Catholics for taking from TM to 
teach their 'Centering Prayer' without attribution. I guess it is the 
dishonesty in so doing. 

But the more generalized observation that meditation taught by a wide range of 
thought now commonly incorporates 'effortlessness' in to particular systems 
shows a current trend.  Though it even goes the other way too where within TM 
now they are teaching a guided meditation in the Ved and Physiology class using 
an effortless mindful transcendence meditation.  That was the last technique 
that Maharishi was working on before his death.  The times they are a-changing. 
 Resistance is futile, effortlessness has been assimilated.
-Buck in the Dome 

 
 
 
  From: Richard J. Williams richard@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:42 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shri Chakra found on Mars
 
 
   
   Shri Chakra found on Mars
  
 wgm4u :
  Finally willytex can rest in peace!
 
 Everyone knows the real Sri Chakra is up in
 Oregon, Billy. There's simply no way anyone
 could fly to and imprint another one on Mars!
 
 
 
 It wasn't. it took them quite a few days, 
 working in the hot sun. I just took a while 
 before the National Guard pilot noticed it. 
 I know the guys involved and see them 
 regularly to this day: Bill Witherspoon, 
 Bob Hoerlein, Mark Petrick, I think Michael 
 Cain, a few others. I've seen photos of them 
 working on the project. I believe in aliens 
 and tend to believe they are involved in 
 many of the crop circles, but they weren't 
 involved in the Oregon yantra.
 FairfieldLife: 184865
 You decide:
 http://youtu.be/1mr2G1_UYWY
 About this time a friend asked if I could 
 make a Sri Yantra. The Sri Yantra is a 
 traditional design from India that is thought 
 of as an instance or occurrence (rather than 
 a symbol) of the deepest laws and forces
 of Mother Nature or Mother Divine. I spent a 
 few months doing extensive library research 
 on the Sri Yantra and also spoke with people 
 who had experienced its use in India as part 
 of the spiritual tradition of Sri Vidya. 
 Then I decided it would be consistent with
 its traditional use to make one from gold 
 leaf and transparent pigments...
 India Divine:
 http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/



 

[FairfieldLife] Worst version of Windoze ever?!

[card]

I'm afraid Windoze 8 shall be almost catastrophically
unusable? 

End of Microsoft, and Nokia by the same token?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Worst version of Windoze ever?!

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote:

 
 I'm afraid Windoze 8 shall be almost catastrophically
 unusable? 
 
 End of Microsoft, and Nokia by the same token?


http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/prepare-for-windows-8-induced-user-rage/

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Objective Is Your Subjectivity? A Quiz to Xeno

[khazana108]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  I already regret having ever made the post. I should have listened
  to Barry. Well, Robin, I suggest we both delete our respective
  dialogues here, and just forget about it, yes? It never happened.
  Were others were quoting our posts, we just ask Alex to delete, you
  agree? I will be waiting for your agreement.
  
 
 Here's an idea! Why don't you dumbass ego monkeys just fucking think before 
 posting instead of just assuming that I'm here to waste my time deleting 
 shitstorms of your creation. 

Point taken, Alex. Btw. I was being ironic. I never thought of bothering you 
with this. Please accept my apologies.

 Back in August, I had to delete any post referencing a person who posted here 
 for a time, and it ended up taking me an hour and a half straight to search 
 for and delete the several hundred posts. That really pissed me off. The 
 attitude of Oh, we can just get Alex to delete it needs to go. Oh, you 
 don't want something to be in the archive? Then don't fucking put it there in 
 the first place.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Worst version of Windoze ever?!

[Share Long]

Are you sure Carde?  Another high tech expert was telling me to go for it.  I 
currently have Vista.




 From: card cardemais...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:43 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Worst version of Windoze ever?!
 

  

I'm afraid Windoze 8 shall be almost catastrophically
unusable? 

End of Microsoft, and Nokia by the same token?


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Worst version of Windoze ever?!

[card]

I tried it for a while, and it almost drove me nuts. YMMV...


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Are you sure Carde?  Another high tech expert was telling me to go for it.  
 I currently have Vista.
 
 
 
 
  From: card cardemaister@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:43 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Worst version of Windoze ever?!
  
 
   
 
 I'm afraid Windoze 8 shall be almost catastrophically
 unusable? 
 
 End of Microsoft, and Nokia by the same token?

[FairfieldLife] Re: A meditator walks into a bar....

[laughinggull108]

...and says Another *round* for me and my friends.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 turns around and walks back out?
 
 I was thinking about Turq's if If FFL Really Was A Bar and that a 
 meditator walks into a bar... would have made a good retort.  So let's 
 have at it.  What is your favorite a meditator walks into a bar joke?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Making Someone Your Bitch

[Share Long]

Research indicates that attention=survival.  For example, premmies who are 
picked up more, gain weight faster, etc.  At the other end of the timeline, 
oldsters with partners tend to live longer, fuller lives.  Perhaps it's 
something in the physical brain.  We humans are pack animals.  In a very 
concrete way, we need others of our kind.

Unhealed childhood traumas can aggravate and distort this need.  Wise help is 
possible.  Wise compassion is also good.

Using a term from Waking Down in Mutuality, I'd say that it's the Hyper 
Masculine that denigrates the human need for attention and has no compassion 
for the distortions of it.  Fortunately healthy masculinity is on the rise.    




 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:29 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Making Someone Your Bitch
 

  
I walked into this pub to get out of the rain, but it turns out to be a pretty 
writer-friendly pub, featuring Westmalle and Murphy's Irish Red and WiFi, and 
it's dry, so what is not to like? Besides, I find myself sitting under a poster 
that shows a fairly distinguished old Scot sitting in his leather chair in 
front of the fireplace, dressed in a classic three-piece tweed suit, smoking a 
pipe. In front of him are two large dogs. The ad copy to the right of the photo 
reads, I love Irn-Bru and so do my bitches.



http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_117/1175855/file/irn-bru-bitches-small-28446.jpg 

Irn-Bru, for those not of Scot heritage, is Scotland's second-favorite 
beverage, after...duh...Scotch. It's a soft drink, and a thoroughly loathsome 
one from my point of view, with a color that looks like someone took one of 
those fluorescent orange road signs and distilled it and put it into a bottle. 
And with a taste to match. So I ordered a Scotch. 

But the poster has given me something to write about on this rainy Sunday 
afternoon, so cool. 

The poster makes me realize that I don't really know what someone means when 
they say they're going make someone their bitch. It gets said a lot, 
especially on American television, but as I sit here I realize that I'm not 
sure what is meant by that phrase. 

Is the person saying it a wizard, and about to turn the victim into a female 
dog? If the victim is a woman, is the person threatening to turn her more nasty 
and insensitive? Why would anyone want to do that? Perhaps Curtis can help me 
out here, and explain how this phrase is used in the 'hood. 

Me, about the only thing I can relate it to is a particular behavioral pattern 
that is common on the Internet. In my somewhat subjective definition of making 
someone your bitch, it's kinda synonymous with what other people call 
trolling.

The mechanics of making someone your bitch on the Internet involve using 
whatever works -- *whatever* works -- to capture the victim's attention and 
*hold onto it*. Another term I've heard applied to this behavioral pattern is 
attention vampirism. As far as I can tell, having been a veteran of the 
Internet since before it was called that and went by the name of Arpanet, the 
goal of this behavior is best expressed by the last of the three terms.

Some attempt to capture the attention they seek by being needy, others by being 
abusive, still others by trying to suck someone into an intellectual argument, 
and yet others by picking nits and urging the victim to pick back. But don't 
get me wrong...all of these behaviors can be fairly benevolent and inoffensive, 
if practiced in moderation. 

How you can tell when it's gone over the line into not-quite-as-benevolent and 
offensive is to watch what happens when the victim wishes to withdraw from the 
thing that the perpetrator has come to think of as a relationship. 

If the perpetrator allows the victim to leave, without any nasty parting 
shots, it's still in my book benevolent and inoffensive. But if the perp 
throws a snit fit and gets pissy, he or she is IMO trying to make someone his 
or her bitch, and is pissed off that it isn't working. 

What happens next is often sad to watch. Fans of the term attention vampirism 
liken it to watching an old vampire realize that although he's never grown old 
he *has* grown toothless, and his lunch is about to walk away undrained. Others 
just act as if they've been dumped, even though there was no real 
relationship other than a few exchanged posts between two people who have 
never met and in all likelihood never will. Still others act as if the other 
person has committed some kind of mortal sin by choosing not to interact with 
them any more, and that they should either repent and *apologize* for their 
sin, or be punished for it. And yet others turn into stalkers, hounding the 
person who walked away and refused to be their bitch for weeks. Or months. Or 
years. Or decades, in extreme cases. 

Go figure. I just don't understand it. I'm not terribly possessive when it 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shri Chakra found on Mars

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 Yep, Phil Goldberg.
 It was interesting how upset he was with the Catholics 
 for taking from TM to teach their 'Centering Prayer' 
 without attribution. I guess it is the dishonesty in 
 so doing.  

Proprietary thinking. 

Compare and contrast to a technique I found myself 
writing about the other day, called Cognitively-Based 
Compassion Training (CBCT), which includes the practice 
of mindfulness meditation. It is a secularized form of 
meditation practices developed at Emory University and 
their School Of Medicine's Emory-Tibet Partnership, and
is based on the work of a real Tibetan lama, Lobsang 
Tenzin Negi. The practice draws upon the lojong (mind 
training or thought transformation) tradition of 
Tibetan Buddhism. It's based on the idea that self-
centered thinking and behavior causes distress and 
dis-ease, whereas other-centered, altruistic, or 
empathic thinking creates benefits to oneself and 
to others.

And therein lies the difference. CBCT has been shown in
now dozens of clinical trials to produce tremendous
benefits to those practicing it. But neither Emory nor
Lobsang Tenzin Negi benefits from it financially. They
secularized a useful set of techniques and *gave them
away for free*. 

As I've said many times, what is the *actual* mindset
of an organization that believes it has invented the
solution to all problems that then insists on 
profiting from that invention forever -- at *hugely*
inflated prices -- rather than making it available
to as many people as possible? What is the mindset
that would view another organization's teachings and
feel *upset* about them borrowing a few useful things
from their own? 

Seems to me that if an org had really invented a set
of techniques that they felt would benefit people, 
and that org had a real desire *to* benefit people,
they'd make them available, for free if necessary.
To hang onto them as if the techniques were their
*property*, and *have* to be paid for or attributed?
That strikes me as kinda weird. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Objective Is Your Subjectivity? A Quiz to Xeno

[khazana108]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:


 In a very real sense, they're using you to masturbate
 with. You're the batteries in their vibrator. 

Barry, I think Judy, Raunchy they need it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mln0RciE2o0

[FairfieldLife] MGF Chat 29 September 2012—Update on Genetically Modified (GM) ‘food’

[merlin]

http://www.maharishichannel.in/econtact_mailing/MAILING_OUT/2012/2012_09/2012-09_29_Agriculture.html


 

Maharishi’s Global Family Chat Summary 
 
 
Maharishi’s Global Family Chat Summary
September 29, 2012

Update on Genetically Modified (GM) ‘food’

Consciousness is rising rapidly worldwide due to groups of Yogic Flyers 
enlivening the field of pure consciousness. As the light increases, dark spots 
are becoming more visible in national life—they are the dark spots of 
destructive intelligence that Maharishi said have to be eliminated as we raise 
coherence and harmony. 
In this regard, GM food issues have been in in the news a lot over the past few 
weeks. It is very important for our health and evolution that everyone is clear 
about the dangers of this new kind of food, from completely new organisms.
What is Genetic Modification? It is the uncontrolled introduction of genes from 
one organism directly into the genetic material of another organism. For 
example, genes of a spider have been forced into the cells of goats, so that 
the goats produce milk with spider web protein in it, to make strong threads 
with.
(Note: People often ask if this is actually real or if it is just an idea in a 
mad scientist’s mind. The fact is this was done in 2009 and the goats are 
living).
More than 10 major promises have been made by Monsanto about GM crops and food. 
All of these promises have been proven by scientific research and experience to 
be wrong. Here we mention three main points; a complete list can be seen in the 
excellent website.
Note: In this summary we refer to one company, Monsanto, but the other GM 
companies are also making these false claims.
Monsanto has promised that GM food would be safe, but in direct contrast to 
this there is a growing body of scientific evidence demonstrating that GM food 
is harmful. The increases in food allergies and the obesity epidemic in the US 
are both closely correlated with the introduction of GM foods although no 
evidence of cause has yet been reported.
Monsanto has promised that GM crops would use less pesticides, but the reality 
is that GM crops use huge amounts more pesticides, and have created over 350 
new ‘superweeds’ covering millions of acres in the US. 
Monsanto promises that GM crops will be more profitable. The reality is that GM 
crops have become a huge market failure kept alive by massive subsidies.
If genetic modification is so dangerous and such a failure, why is it done? 
Monsanto executives say they are doing it to feed the world’s growing 
population, but no GMO yet commercialized actually delivers increased yields. 
In fact, the motivation is that GMOs can be patented and this allows the 
biotech companies to gain ever greater control over the seed industry. With 
this, they gain control over the essential means of food production. 
Controlling the food supply enables them to make bigger business. 
Here we see a chart of the seed companies that have been bought up worldwide by 
the principal GM companies (2008). 
Over 90% of Americans want GM foods labelled. So why is it not being done? The 
main reason is that the GMO companies and the chemical companies that produce 
pesticides have gained powerful influence over government, both in the US, 
Europe and many other countries around the world. For instance they have 
created a ‘revolving door’ between the biotech industry and the US Federal 
government: senior people move back and forth working for the biotech industry 
and the Federal Government. These people have colleagues on both sides and they 
all work together to facilitate the biotech industry’s purposes. Here you can 
see a list of senior officials participating in this revolving door in the USA: 
A big test of the purity of collective consciousness is coming up on 6 
November: In addition to the US presidential election, California Proposition 
37 will be voted to decide whether all GM foods will be labelled in the state 
of California. The GM corporations strongly oppose this. They want to keep the 
food content secret because they know that if people are aware there are GM 
ingredients in a food, most will not buy it. The giant food corporations have 
created a US $35 million war chest for the campaign. The citizens who want to 
know what is in their food have collected US $3.8 million. This shows that the 
GM corporations don’t care about the wishes of the people, they care about 
money. It also shows that they understand very well that this is a major 
turning point: If they lose in California, all GM food throughout the US will 
have to be labelled.
After outlining the sad story of GM foods, Dr Swan went on to show examples of 
the brilliant farming methods that organic farmers have developed, that require 
much less work, are more profitable, and improve the farm and environment.
For example, these pumpkins have been grown on a mulch that increases the 
fertility of the field, maintains higher moisture levels, prevents 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A meditator walks into a bar....

[khazana108]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 turns around and walks back out?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBAYEK4Ftz8

[FairfieldLife] Re: Worst version of Windoze ever?!

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote:

 
 I'm afraid Windoze 8 shall be almost catastrophically
 unusable? 
 
 End of Microsoft, and Nokia by the same token?

I think if the feedback is bad enough, Microsoft will be forced to bring back 
the classic desktop as an option. From the sound of it, this is going to be 
Vista all over again, and hopefully the OS that follows will be as nice as Win 
7.  

There's no way I'll install Win 8 on any of my current hardware, which is all 
pretty old. A pair of ancient Averatec XP laptops serve as Internet radios in 
the kitchen and living room, and the Post Count script runs on an old Dell D610 
running Win 7. My main desktop PC is now 5 years old and running Win 7, but it 
still has more than enough power for my needs, and the upgrade to a solid state 
drive eliminated its only significant limitation. In 2009, I switched to a 
Macbook as my mobile platform.

The only way I'll experience Win 8 is if I replace the kitchen laptop with one 
Samsung's new all-in-one PCs:

http://www.webpronews.com/all-in-one-pcs-coming-this-fall-courtesy-of-samsung-2012-08

I will wait for the reviews before I buy one.

As for Nokia, they should just switch to Android.

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Objective Is Your Subjectivity? A Quiz to Xeno

[turquoiseb]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  In a very real sense, they're using you to masturbate
  with. You're the batteries in their vibrator. 
 
 Barry, I think Judy, Raunchy they need it.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mln0RciE2o0

Very possibly. But to be honest I'd prefer to hear about 
your recent Road Trip. It sounds as if it may have been
edifying. If it's not classified :-), where did you go,
and did you have fun there?

We know in advance that the Needy Sisters have no similar
adventures to relate. That's why they try to suck people
into Nitpick World. But you actually got out of the house
and away from the computer for a while. I find that somewhat
admirable. What did you learn from doing it?

But only if you feel like talking about it, of course. I
just find myself these days more interested in the things
that are actually happening in people's live than I am in
the things that some use to hide the fact that not much 
*is* happening in them. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A meditator walks into a bar....

[laughinggull108]

...and orders milk and cookies. The bartender says, Where do you think you 
are, Fairfield?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 turns around and walks back out?
 
 I was thinking about Turq's if If FFL Really Was A Bar and that a 
 meditator walks into a bar... would have made a good retort.  So let's 
 have at it.  What is your favorite a meditator walks into a bar joke?

[FairfieldLife] Re: A meditator walks into a bar....

[turquoiseb]

...and says, Thank the gods. I've been looking all day for
a bar with an East-facing entrance.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote:

 ...and orders milk and cookies. The bartender says, Where 
 do you think you are, Fairfield?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  turns around and walks back out?
  
  I was thinking about Turq's if If FFL Really Was A Bar 
  and that a meditator walks into a bar... would have made 
  a good retort.  So let's have at it.  What is your favorite 
  a meditator walks into a bar joke?
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Objective Is Your Subjectivity? A Quiz to Xeno

[oxcart49]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Look, you are annoying. Don't you realize that. 
 
 They're trying to be. Don't you realize that?  :-)
 
 The Judy-Robin-raunchy-oxcart game yesterday was to
 KEEP YOU ARGUING WITH THEM. 


Er, show me one word I wrote to khazana Barry. I think you are confusing me 
with someone else or just making things up.
 
 There was no other purpose to it. The way they think,
 if they can keep you wasting your time dealing with
 their nitpicks and their crap, they win. None of 
 the content of what they say matters a bit; it's
 just a ploy to keep you interacting and arguing
 with them. 
 
 In a very real sense, they're using you to masturbate
 with. You're the batteries in their vibrator. 
 
 If that image doesn't disgust you enough to stop
 playing their game, nothing will. :-)  :-)  :-)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making Someone Your Bitch

[oxcart49]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 I walked into this pub to get out of the rain, but it turns out to be a
 pretty writer-friendly pub, featuring Westmalle and Murphy's Irish Red
 and WiFi, and it's dry, so what is not to like? Besides, I find myself
 sitting under a poster that shows a fairly distinguished old Scot
 sitting in his leather chair in front of the fireplace, dressed in a
 classic three-piece tweed suit, smoking a pipe. In front of him are two
 large dogs. The ad copy to the right of the photo reads, I love Irn-Bru
 and so do my bitches.
 
  
 [http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_117/1175855/file/irn-b\
 ru-bitches-small-28446.jpg]
 http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_117/1175855/file/irn-br\
 u-bitches-small-28446.jpg
 http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_117/1175855/file/irn-b\
 ru-bitches-small-28446.jpg
 
 Irn-Bru, for those not of Scot heritage, is Scotland's second-favorite
 beverage, after...duh...Scotch. It's a soft drink, and a thoroughly
 loathsome one from my point of view, with a color that looks like
 someone took one of those fluorescent orange road signs and distilled it
 and put it into a bottle. And with a taste to match. So I ordered a
 Scotch.
 
 But the poster has given me something to write about on this rainy
 Sunday afternoon, so cool.
 
 The poster makes me realize that I don't really know what someone means
 when they say they're going make someone their bitch. It gets said a
 lot, especially on American television, but as I sit here I realize that
 I'm not sure what is meant by that phrase.
 
 Is the person saying it a wizard, and about to turn the victim into a
 female dog? If the victim is a woman, is the person threatening to turn
 her more nasty and insensitive? Why would anyone want to do that?
 Perhaps Curtis can help me out here, and explain how this phrase is used
 in the 'hood.
 
 Me, about the only thing I can relate it to is a particular behavioral
 pattern that is common on the Internet. In my somewhat subjective
 definition of making someone your bitch, it's kinda synonymous with
 what other people call trolling.
 
 The mechanics of making someone your bitch on the Internet involve using
 whatever works -- *whatever* works -- to capture the victim's attention
 and *hold onto it*. Another term I've heard applied to this behavioral
 pattern is attention vampirism. As far as I can tell, having been a
 veteran of the Internet since before it was called that and went by the
 name of Arpanet, the goal of this behavior is best expressed by the last
 of the three terms.
 
 Some attempt to capture the attention they seek by being needy, others
 by being abusive, still others by trying to suck someone into an
 intellectual argument, and yet others by picking nits and urging the
 victim to pick back. But don't get me wrong...all of these behaviors can
 be fairly benevolent and inoffensive, if practiced in moderation.
 
 How you can tell when it's gone over the line into
 not-quite-as-benevolent and offensive is to watch what happens when the
 victim wishes to withdraw from the thing that the perpetrator has come
 to think of as a relationship.
 
 If the perpetrator allows the victim to leave, without any nasty
 parting shots, it's still in my book benevolent and inoffensive. But
 if the perp throws a snit fit and gets pissy, he or she is IMO trying to
 make someone his or her bitch, and is pissed off that it isn't working.
 
 What happens next is often sad to watch. Fans of the term attention
 vampirism liken it to watching an old vampire realize that although
 he's never grown old he *has* grown toothless, and his lunch is about to
 walk away undrained. Others just act as if they've been dumped, even
 though there was no real relationship other than a few exchanged posts
 between two people who have never met and in all likelihood never will.
 Still others act as if the other person has committed some kind of
 mortal sin by choosing not to interact with them any more, and that they
 should either repent and *apologize* for their sin, or be punished for
 it. And yet others turn into stalkers, hounding the person who walked
 away and refused to be their bitch for weeks. Or months. Or years. Or
 decades, in extreme cases.
 
 Go figure. I just don't understand it. I'm not terribly possessive when
 it comes to relationships, much less those fleeting and transitory ones
 I form on the Net. Ask my former girlfriends; those who dumped me will
 testify that I'm the easiest boyfriend in the world to break up with. If
 they tell me that they want to tune the knob a few notches back and
 just be friends, I take them at their word and become their friend. In
 the rare case where they've told me that they're moving on and don't
 want any contact from me or anyone else in their past, I have allowed
 them to do so. I have no idea what became of either of them, and have
 never been tempted to stalk them on 

[FairfieldLife] American Veda

[feste37]

Hey Share, what did you think of Phil Goldberg's American Veda talk? I saw you 
there. I found him very entertaining, more so than I expected. Nice to be 
reminded of the context in which MMY showed up in the US. Long process of 
seeding the ground before he arrived. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A meditator walks into a bar....

[Share Long]

And the meditator, who's probably been spending too much time on a certain 
forum which shall remain nameless, replies, Duh!  Dude, if I were in 
Fairfield, I would have asked for ORGANIC milk and cookies!  Get a life!




 From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 7:46 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A meditator walks into a bar
 

  
...and orders milk and cookies. The bartender says, Where do you think you 
are, Fairfield?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 turns around and walks back out?
 
 I was thinking about Turq's if If FFL Really Was A Bar and that a 
 meditator walks into a bar... would have made a good retort.  So let's 
 have at it.  What is your favorite a meditator walks into a bar joke?



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making Barry Your Bitch

[Richard J. Williams]

turquoiseb:
 The mechanics of making someone your bitch on the 
 Internet involve using whatever works -- *whatever* 
 works -- to capture the victim's attention and 
 *hold onto it*...

You got my attention, but you're not holding onto it
with this unformated post - I already told you, I'm
not gay, Barry, so just stop the soliciting. LoL! 

[FairfieldLife] Re: A meditator walks into a bar....

[laughinggull108]

testing...testing...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 turns around and walks back out?
 
 I was thinking about Turq's if If FFL Really Was A Bar and that a 
 meditator walks into a bar... would have made a good retort.  So let's 
 have at it.  What is your favorite a meditator walks into a bar joke?

[FairfieldLife] Re: American Veda

[Richard J. Williams]

tartbrain:
 Though this book probably already has been 
 discussed here, I was looking at it to see 
 if it included Twain...

American Veda is his crowning achievement. It is the fascinating
story of how Indian philosophy and Indian teachers have literally
transformed American life, starting with the New England
Transcendentalist writers (Emerson, Thoreau, Whitman) who 
discovered Vedanta in a handful of books, through the arrival 
on our shores of Swami Vivekenanda, Paramahansa Yogananda, Maharishi
Mahesh Yogi and other prominent gurus, to the present-day crop 
of teachers - both Indian and American-born - who have been
influenced by these visionary pioneers... - Jack Forem 

http://tinyurl.com/9egkqn9

'American Veda'
by Philip Goldberg
From Emerson and the Beatles to Yoga and Meditation How Indian Spirituality 
Changed the West
Harmony, 2010

Re: [FairfieldLife] American Veda

[Share Long]

Feste, I didn't see you there ha ha!  Well, maybe I did and didn't know that I 
did.  If you know what I mean (-;

I enjoyed it a lot.  Buck and I had a little exchange about it earlier this 
morning under, funnily enough,  subject Shri Chakra found on Mars.

But something I remembered during program:  I loved his point that in every 
organization he's dealt with, people complain about the exact same problems, 
the exact same challenging personality types.  That doesn't surprise me at all 
but it was great to have it validated by someone with a much larger perspective 
than mine.  

Also I was fascinated with what he said about Emerson.  All in all his 
presentation made me realize how much I would like to immerse in a spiritual 
community that's also devoted to emotional good health.

Also I was impressed by his scholarship, especially when he mentioned that it 
took 2 years longer than he expected.  Inspiring persistence.

I wish there had been time for talking about what's next.  Hope he sold lots of 
books.  
PS  If you ever want to reveal your REAL identity to me, that would be fun.  
And I'm good at keeping secrets.  As some on this forum already know.




 From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:06 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] American Veda
 

  
Hey Share, what did you think of Phil Goldberg's American Veda talk? I saw you 
there. I found him very entertaining, more so than I expected. Nice to be 
reminded of the context in which MMY showed up in the US. Long process of 
seeding the ground before he arrived. 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A meditator walks into a bar....

[Share Long]

Ok, Dutch Boy, I have to admit this is pretty funny, maybe the funniest.  But 
after the Dome I also laughed out loud at this one:

And the meditator, who's probably been spending too much time on a certain 
forum which 
shall remain nameless, replies, Duh!  Dude, if I were in Fairfield, I 
would have asked for ORGANIC milk and cookies!  Get a life!



 From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 8:15 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A meditator walks into a bar
 

  
...and says, Thank the gods. I've been looking all day for
a bar with an East-facing entrance.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote:

 ...and orders milk and cookies. The bartender says, Where 
 do you think you are, Fairfield?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  turns around and walks back out?
  
  I was thinking about Turq's if If FFL Really Was A Bar 
  and that a meditator walks into a bar... would have made 
  a good retort.  So let's have at it.  What is your favorite 
  a meditator walks into a bar joke?
 



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Objective Is Your Subjectivity? A Quiz to Xeno

[khazana108]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Very possibly. But to be honest I'd prefer to hear about 
 your recent Road Trip. It sounds as if it may have been
 edifying. 

Yes.

 If it's not classified :-), 

Some of it.

 where did you go,
 and did you have fun there?

Yes, some fun, and great experiences (I would have reported some of it anyway), 
but also challenging situations.

So places: All of it South India. Final landing place: Bangalore. The place I 
stay most of the time is about 125 kms from Bangalore. I am there for doing 
work, some overseeing works at several construction sites. Some working with 
special machines, a heavy jackhammer, much of  the trip about 3-4 hours daily. 
There is a school, the school is being expanded, the additional rooms being 
created are actually very much needed, as the number of pupils doubled since 
last May. (I was there too 3 month in the school holidays). I usually do the 
heavy work, as I am fit (doing running regularly) and strong enough. Other 
westerners who live there, either teach at the school, mostly women, or do 
supervising and just other works and the different building sites. Somebody has 
to direct all the works, control the Indian workers organize materials, another 
person supervises the activities at another ground, has to be there. take 
deliveries, pay workers etc.

We are here in rural India, not in Bangalore or Pondichery, there are almost 
constant power-cuts, since some day in June or July, when almost all of India 
was without electricity the situation has worsened considerable. On many days 
we will have power only about 3 hours, and you never know when. This is a major 
problem for all building activities.

On the place itself, I have a bicycle to get around, I go for food outside, I 
know all the places, simple Indian food, meals, very hot, lots of chilly.

The children are absolutely sweet, there is a smaller group of children, living 
on the site, the majority is brought by a bus or by their parents. The children 
who live on the site, I know all by name, some of them for a few years now.

This basically is my second home, This year I was there more often than in 
Europe. 

Since I finished my works early, I took a week off, I took a direct night bus 
to Pondy, 4,5 hrs starting at 3 am, just to have some spiritual holiday, see 
and bath in the ocean. It's not a new place to me, but it's more of a city, I 
stay in a very affordable guest house, run and built by a German, I frequent 
the Ashram places (Aurobindo Ashram), the Samadhi, and I want to go into the 
Matri Mandir, the spiritual center of Auroville. I still don't know, if I will 
stay three days or more, I am playing with the thought of going also to 
Tiruvanamallai, which is on the way to Bangalore, where my flight will go off. 

This time I want to go into the Matri Mandir, I was there last 13 years back, 
on my last trips to Pondy I found the administrative hurdle always too much, 
you have to phone a certain number in Auroville between 10 and 11 am, just one 
hour, to be able to maybe get a pass for the next day. I missed this time on 
the date of my arrival, but somebody told me, as I have been there before, they 
would give me admission if I just go there on the next day. There is a bus 
leaving to Auroville everyday in front of the Ashram at 8.15 am, but that is 
Indian time.  The bus brings you to the visiting center in Auroville, where 
upon arrival immediately a long queu is being formed. There is an A group and a 
B group, the A group are people who have an appointment to actually meditate in 
the Matri Mandir, the meditation takes about 40 minutes is in total silence, 
and is in the center of the building, starting from 10 am. But I have no 
reservation! No chance, the Indian lady says in a stern voice. I ask her if I 
can talk with her, then say I have been inside before, she says its full. But I 
could make an appointment, calling this number for the next day. If you want, 
she says, you can meditate in the petal.  I lighten up and immediately agree. 
The petals are small rooms adjoining the main sanctuary of the Matri Mandir, 
the meditations are actually called concentration. I now find out that there is 
actually even an email, to make a reservation. So I walk the little path from 
the visitors center, and get to the main entrance of the Matri Mandir. I tell 
my story again, and get a pass for the petal, only two of the twelve petals are 
open for the meditation, 3 times are fixed in the morning, I am already late. I 
have to choose, do I want 'goodness' or ' courage'? I said, whatever, no I have 
to choose. Courage, I respond immediately, and the Indian lady smiles. 

I walk there, again a lady receives me, takes the ticket, I am alone in the 
room. It is breathtaking. The whole room is in a sort of orange crimson color, 
there is a foggy light coming from below, no direct window, I hear a 
reverberating sound, like coming from a 

[FairfieldLife] Re: American Veda

[feste37]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote:

 Feste, I didn't see you there ha ha!  Well, maybe I did and didn't know that 
 I did.  If you know what I mean (-;
 
 I enjoyed it a lot.  Buck and I had a little exchange about it earlier this 
 morning under, funnily enough,  subject Shri Chakra found on Mars.
 
 But something I remembered during program:  I loved his point that in every 
 organization he's dealt with, people complain about the exact same problems, 
 the exact same challenging personality types.  That doesn't surprise me at 
 all but it was great to have it validated by someone with a much larger 
 perspective than mine.  
 
 Also I was fascinated with what he said about Emerson.  All in all his 
 presentation made me realize how much I would like to immerse in a spiritual 
 community that's also devoted to emotional good health.
 
 Also I was impressed by his scholarship, especially when he mentioned that it 
 took 2 years longer than he expected.  Inspiring persistence.
 
 I wish there had been time for talking about what's next.  Hope he sold lots 
 of books.  
 PS  If you ever want to reveal your REAL identity to me, that would be 
 fun.  And I'm good at keeping secrets.  As some on this forum already know.


Please email me. I would have made myself known to you yesterday but I had to 
leave promptly so the opportunity did not present itself. 


 
 
 
 
  From: feste37 feste37@...
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:06 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] American Veda
  
 
   
 Hey Share, what did you think of Phil Goldberg's American Veda talk? I saw 
 you there. I found him very entertaining, more so than I expected. Nice to be 
 reminded of the context in which MMY showed up in the US. Long process of 
 seeding the ground before he arrived.

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Objective Is Your Subjectivity? A Quiz to Xeno

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Look, you are annoying. Don't you realize that. 
 
 They're trying to be. Don't you realize that?  :-)
 
 The Judy-Robin-raunchy-oxcart game yesterday was to
 KEEP YOU ARGUING WITH THEM.

Barry's feeling neglected. ;-)

 There was no other purpose to it. The way they think,
 if they can keep you wasting your time dealing with
 their nitpicks and their crap, they win.

You know how we win? When we keep coming back so
effectively at the person who's been taking gratuitous
shots at us that they give up and back off.

Typically they try again later, and the same thing
happens. Eventually they have to resort to pretending
not to read the comebacks. khazana's getting close to
that point now.

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Objective Is Your Subjectivity? A Quiz to Xeno

[turquoiseb]

Very nice. An adventure, indeed. And you have a great way of describing
it. Thanks.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Very possibly. But to be honest I'd prefer to hear about
  your recent Road Trip. It sounds as if it may have been
  edifying.

 Yes.

  If it's not classified :-),

 Some of it.

  where did you go,
  and did you have fun there?

 Yes, some fun, and great experiences (I would have reported some of it
anyway), but also challenging situations.

 So places: All of it South India. Final landing place: Bangalore. The
place I stay most of the time is about 125 kms from Bangalore. I am
there for doing work, some overseeing works at several construction
sites. Some working with special machines, a heavy jackhammer, much of 
the trip about 3-4 hours daily. There is a school, the school is being
expanded, the additional rooms being created are actually very much
needed, as the number of pupils doubled since last May. (I was there too
3 month in the school holidays). I usually do the heavy work, as I am
fit (doing running regularly) and strong enough. Other westerners who
live there, either teach at the school, mostly women, or do supervising
and just other works and the different building sites. Somebody has to
direct all the works, control the Indian workers organize materials,
another person supervises the activities at another ground, has to be
there. take deliveries, pay workers etc.

 We are here in rural India, not in Bangalore or Pondichery, there are
almost constant power-cuts, since some day in June or July, when almost
all of India was without electricity the situation has worsened
considerable. On many days we will have power only about 3 hours, and
you never know when. This is a major problem for all building
activities.

 On the place itself, I have a bicycle to get around, I go for food
outside, I know all the places, simple Indian food, meals, very hot,
lots of chilly.

 The children are absolutely sweet, there is a smaller group of
children, living on the site, the majority is brought by a bus or by
their parents. The children who live on the site, I know all by name,
some of them for a few years now.

 This basically is my second home, This year I was there more often
than in Europe.

 Since I finished my works early, I took a week off, I took a direct
night bus to Pondy, 4,5 hrs starting at 3 am, just to have some
spiritual holiday, see and bath in the ocean. It's not a new place to
me, but it's more of a city, I stay in a very affordable guest house,
run and built by a German, I frequent the Ashram places (Aurobindo
Ashram), the Samadhi, and I want to go into the Matri Mandir, the
spiritual center of Auroville. I still don't know, if I will stay three
days or more, I am playing with the thought of going also to
Tiruvanamallai, which is on the way to Bangalore, where my flight will
go off.

 This time I want to go into the Matri Mandir, I was there last 13
years back, on my last trips to Pondy I found the administrative hurdle
always too much, you have to phone a certain number in Auroville between
10 and 11 am, just one hour, to be able to maybe get a pass for the next
day. I missed this time on the date of my arrival, but somebody told me,
as I have been there before, they would give me admission if I just go
there on the next day. There is a bus leaving to Auroville everyday in
front of the Ashram at 8.15 am, but that is Indian time.  The bus brings
you to the visiting center in Auroville, where upon arrival immediately
a long queu is being formed. There is an A group and a B group, the A
group are people who have an appointment to actually meditate in the
Matri Mandir, the meditation takes about 40 minutes is in total silence,
and is in the center of the building, starting from 10 am. But I have no
reservation! No chance, the Indian lady says in a stern voice. I ask her
if I can talk with her, then say I have been inside before, she says its
full. But I could make an appointment, calling this number for the next
day. If you want, she says, you can meditate in the petal.  I lighten up
and immediately agree. The petals are small rooms adjoining the main
sanctuary of the Matri Mandir, the meditations are actually called
concentration. I now find out that there is actually even an email, to
make a reservation. So I walk the little path from the visitors center,
and get to the main entrance of the Matri Mandir. I tell my story again,
and get a pass for the petal, only two of the twelve petals are open for
the meditation, 3 times are fixed in the morning, I am already late. I
have to choose, do I want 'goodness' or ' courage'? I said, whatever, no
I have to choose. Courage, I respond immediately, and the Indian lady
smiles.

 I walk there, again a lady receives me, takes the ticket, I am alone
in the room. It is breathtaking. The whole room is in a sort of orange
crimson 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Worst version of Windoze ever?!

[Bhairitu]

On 10/14/2012 05:33 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote:

 I'm afraid Windoze 8 shall be almost catastrophically
 unusable?

 End of Microsoft, and Nokia by the same token?
 I think if the feedback is bad enough, Microsoft will be forced to bring back 
 the classic desktop as an option. From the sound of it, this is going to be 
 Vista all over again, and hopefully the OS that follows will be as nice as 
 Win 7.

 There's no way I'll install Win 8 on any of my current hardware, which is all 
 pretty old. A pair of ancient Averatec XP laptops serve as Internet radios in 
 the kitchen and living room, and the Post Count script runs on an old Dell 
 D610 running Win 7. My main desktop PC is now 5 years old and running Win 7, 
 but it still has more than enough power for my needs, and the upgrade to a 
 solid state drive eliminated its only significant limitation. In 2009, I 
 switched to a Macbook as my mobile platform.

 The only way I'll experience Win 8 is if I replace the kitchen laptop with 
 one Samsung's new all-in-one PCs:

 http://www.webpronews.com/all-in-one-pcs-coming-this-fall-courtesy-of-samsung-2012-08

 I will wait for the reviews before I buy one.

 As for Nokia, they should just switch to Android.



I have no interest either.  I have a two year old Acer 4-core 64-bit 
machine with Window 7 on it.   And this 3-core 64-bit machine I run 
Ubuntu on, which I built myself, runs faster and boots in 15 seconds.  
The Acer started out booting and ready for use in 1 minute now it takes 
about 3 minutes.  And then I'll be in the middle of doing some when some 
application or Windows itself pops up a message saying that an update is 
available taking way the focus in the window where I may be typing.  I 
could wring those developers necks for that.  On Linux a little icon up 
in the top back will notify you if there are updates and not get in the 
way at all.  I know the stereotype of a dweeb runs rampant at Microsoft 
as well as their ego trips.  A couple friends left there a little over 
10 years ago and have all kinds of tales to tell and some that they 
still hear from folks working there.

And yes Nokia should join the party with Android get out of the red ink.

[FairfieldLife] Conscious Peace

[srijau]

http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/10/conscious-peace/

[FairfieldLife] Spoiler alert...the best (IMNSHO) A meditator walks into a bar... joke

[laughinggull108]

If you plan to contribute to the thread, read no further because it will be 
impossible to top what follows (well, maybe possible but not likely...I'm 
having way too much fun with this). If not, then scroll down and enjoy, and 
thanks to all who came before. And please feel free to amend as you see fit...


















A meditator walks backwards into a bar and sits down. Noticing some of the 
patrons staring at him, he says, Duh, south-facing entrance.

What'll it be? asks the bartender.

Feeling magnanimous because he had just received his Settle stipend, he replies 
with a flourish of both arms, A *round* of milk 'n' cookies for everyone!

Hey, where daya think you are, Fairfield? Wait a minute, this *is* Fairfield. 
Coming right up. Organic, of course?

Duh, is there any other kind?

While waiting for his order, he notices a large group of rather boisterous and 
disheveled IA participants gathered around a large round table covered with 
empty beer pitchers and overturned shot glasses. Noticing his stare, a member 
of the group, with fear in his eyes and a trembling voice, pleads, You haven't 
seen us here, right?

What's wrong with havin' a little fun and lettin' your hair down once in a 
while, huh?

Nothing, replies Andrew Cohen. It's not *where* they are, but *who* they're 
with.

To each his own, but remember, karma's a real bitch. Turning back to his 
order, he notices a lovely member of the opposite sex sitting all alone at the 
end of the bar. Moving closer, he asks, Can I buy you a drink?

Sure...Jose Cuervo. *Gold* of course.

Feeling he might get lucky, he uses his *best* pick-up line. Have we met in a 
past life?

Not likely, I'm an avatar.

Several yugas later, a meditator walks into a bar with an east-facing entrance, 
and happens to notice a large group of rather boisterous and disheveled dogs 
gathered around a large round table...

[FairfieldLife] Kriyas for bi-polar,emotional instability etc

[srijau]

http://www.nithyananda.org/nithya-kriyas/cure-bipolar-disorder

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spoiler alert...the best (IMNSHO) A meditator walks into a bar... joke

[laughinggull108]

Share, I dare you *not* to think about this thread at any time during this 
afternoon's program in the Dome...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote:

 If you plan to contribute to the thread, read no further because it will be 
 impossible to top what follows (well, maybe possible but not likely...I'm 
 having way too much fun with this). If not, then scroll down and enjoy, and 
 thanks to all who came before. And please feel free to amend as you see fit...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 A meditator walks backwards into a bar and sits down. Noticing some of the 
 patrons staring at him, he says, Duh, south-facing entrance.
 
 What'll it be? asks the bartender.
 
 Feeling magnanimous because he had just received his Settle stipend, he 
 replies with a flourish of both arms, A *round* of milk 'n' cookies for 
 everyone!
 
 Hey, where daya think you are, Fairfield? Wait a minute, this *is* 
 Fairfield. Coming right up. Organic, of course?
 
 Duh, is there any other kind?
 
 While waiting for his order, he notices a large group of rather boisterous 
 and disheveled IA participants gathered around a large round table covered 
 with empty beer pitchers and overturned shot glasses. Noticing his stare, a 
 member of the group, with fear in his eyes and a trembling voice, pleads, 
 You haven't seen us here, right?
 
 What's wrong with havin' a little fun and lettin' your hair down once in a 
 while, huh?
 
 Nothing, replies Andrew Cohen. It's not *where* they are, but *who* 
 they're with.
 
 To each his own, but remember, karma's a real bitch. Turning back to his 
 order, he notices a lovely member of the opposite sex sitting all alone at 
 the end of the bar. Moving closer, he asks, Can I buy you a drink?
 
 Sure...Jose Cuervo. *Gold* of course.
 
 Feeling he might get lucky, he uses his *best* pick-up line. Have we met in 
 a past life?
 
 Not likely, I'm an avatar.
 
 Several yugas later, a meditator walks into a bar with an east-facing 
 entrance, and happens to notice a large group of rather boisterous and 
 disheveled dogs gathered around a large round table...

[FairfieldLife] TV: Pile-on Sunday gets Crazier

[Bhairitu]

The Walking Dead returns tonight and I also enjoy the follow up 
Talking Dead.   Watch for Chris Hardwick to be the next generation 
Letterman or Leno.  My DVR's schedule looked like a disaster with 
Clipped showing on two shows due to the overlap of Kevin Smith's 
Comic Book Men which also returns tonight.  I figured I could find the 
later showing of it as I'm not going to get to everything that is 
scheduled anyway for a couple days.  Even Boardwalk Empire and Treme 
get shoved off to watch another day.

Not on the schedule will be 666 Park Avenue which failed whelm me with 
the first two episodes.  So far of the new series only Last Resort has 
done that.  I'll see where Revolution goes for one more episode.  And 
I will see how Nashville does beyond the pilot but then that show, 
which is ABC's answer to HBO's Treme but with country music holds more 
of an interest because of having been in the music business.

I decided to drop BBC's Bedlam from my watch list after the second 
episode.  If I want to  watch horror there are lots of much edgier 
movies I can watch on Netflix including watching the granddaddy of all 
paranormal films Legend of Hell House which has joined the line up 
there apparently a result of their deal with 20th Century Fox.  There 
are a lot of little films these days that can be quite good.  Because 
one can film a movie with a digital SLR camera costing even less than 
$1000 and renting lenses and edit on your PC there is no need for 
expensive productions.  Film school has been reduced to a science and 
there is not even an excuse for bad acting or writing anymore.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spoiler alert...the best (IMNSHO) A meditator walks into a bar... joke

[Share Long]

LG, have I ever mentioned that I LOVE it when you dare me?


Jeez, Louise, just remembered!  Supposedly I'm old enough to be your granny!  
What the heck?!  It's a rainy Sunday yada yada...


BTW, I don't round so no grant for me.  And I think those who do round are 
genuine Spiritual Warriors.  I DARE you to try that!  



 From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spoiler alert...the best (IMNSHO) A meditator 
walks into a bar... joke
 

  
Share, I dare you *not* to think about this thread at any time during this 
afternoon's program in the Dome...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, laughinggull108 no_reply@... wrote:

 If you plan to contribute to the thread, read no further because it will be 
 impossible to top what follows (well, maybe possible but not likely...I'm 
 having way too much fun with this). If not, then scroll down and enjoy, and 
 thanks to all who came before. And please feel free to amend as you see fit...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 A meditator walks backwards into a bar and sits down. Noticing some of the 
 patrons staring at him, he says, Duh, south-facing entrance.
 
 What'll it be? asks the bartender.
 
 Feeling magnanimous because he had just received his Settle stipend, he 
 replies with a flourish of both arms, A *round* of milk 'n' cookies for 
 everyone!
 
 Hey, where daya think you are, Fairfield? Wait a minute, this *is* 
 Fairfield. Coming right up. Organic, of course?
 
 Duh, is there any other kind?
 
 While waiting for his order, he notices a large group of rather boisterous 
 and disheveled IA participants gathered around a large round table covered 
 with empty beer pitchers and overturned shot glasses. Noticing his stare, a 
 member of the group, with fear in his eyes and a trembling voice, pleads, 
 You haven't seen us here, right?
 
 What's wrong with havin' a little fun and lettin' your hair down once in a 
 while, huh?
 
 Nothing, replies Andrew Cohen. It's not *where* they are, but *who* 
 they're with.
 
 To each his own, but remember, karma's a real bitch. Turning back to his 
 order, he notices a lovely member of the opposite sex sitting all alone at 
 the end of the bar. Moving closer, he asks, Can I buy you a drink?
 
 Sure...Jose Cuervo. *Gold* of course.
 
 Feeling he might get lucky, he uses his *best* pick-up line. Have we met in 
 a past life?
 
 Not likely, I'm an avatar.
 
 Several yugas later, a meditator walks into a bar with an east-facing 
 entrance, and happens to notice a large group of rather boisterous and 
 disheveled dogs gathered around a large round table...



 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shri Chakra found on Mars

[Richard J. Williams]

  Wiki Willy got these secrets himself from Shankara.
 
mjackson74:
 That's pretty funny.

Have you two dilettantes ever considered reading a history book?

You two seem to be unable to contribute much to the conversation.

Go figure.

The details of the beliefs vary in different texts, but the general
principles are similar to those found in Kashmir Shaivism...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shri_Vidya
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shri_Vidya

Here's what is funny! LoL!

Hariharananda Saraswati, the desciple of SBS, was also the great
expert of Shree Vidya and probably all the present day experts in
Varanasi have somehow or the other obtained Shree vidya from
him or his pupils.
http://www.in.com/swami-karpatri/biography-263819.html
http://www.in.com/swami-karpatri/biography-263819.html


  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swami_Karpatri

Swami Karpatri

 Yep, let's sum it up.


  So, let's sum up what we know:
 
  The TM bija mantras came from Guru Dev, who was a
  member of the Dasanami Order of the Saraswati Dandi
  sannyasins, founded by the Adi Shankaracharya. Guru
  Dev's teacher was Swami Krishnanada Saraswati of
  Uttar Kashi.
 
  Do we agree so far?
 
  The Dandi sannyasins of the Saraswati Order in the
  Shankaracharya tradition are termed Jnana Yogis,
  and thay all worship the Goddess of Knowledge and
  Learning, Sri Saraswati. She is enthroned at the
  Sringeri Matha in Karnataka, South India, the main
  headquarters of the Saraswati sannyasins.
 
  In addition to twice daily meditation on the bija
  mantra of Saraswati, the Dasnamis of the Saraswati
  Order perform the Saraswati Puja on the 5th day of
  Magha month, known as Basant Panchami.
 
  So much for the facts.
 
  At Sringeri, Shankaracharya placed the image of
  Saraswati, which he had brought from Kashmere.
 
  All of the Saraswati dasanamis are adherents of the
  Sri Vidya and they follow the teachings contained
  in the Saunadryalahari, which was composed by the
  Adi Shankara, containing the fifteen bija mantras.
 
  According to the Shankara Saraswati tradition,
  Saraswati is considered to be the feminine energy,
  or Adi Shakti of Brahman.
 
  Devi Saraswati:
  http://tinyurl.com/yaxuhk4 http://tinyurl.com/yaxuhk4
 
  Sri Yantra:
  http://tinyurl.com/yc9mmjt http://tinyurl.com/yc9mmjt

[FairfieldLife] Re: Worst version of Windoze ever?!

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
snip
 And then I'll be in the middle of doing some when some 
 application or Windows itself pops up a message saying that
 an update is available taking way the focus in the window
 where I may be typing.  I could wring those developers necks
 for that.

Huh, that doesn't happen on my Win7 machine.

 On Linux a little icon up 
 in the top back will notify you if there are updates and
 not get in the way at all.

My machine puts an icon on the taskbar when new updates
are available. I have to remember to look for it.

I wonder if there's a setting you could change so the OS
doesn't interrupt you?

I am *very* fond of Win7. It's the only version of Windows
I've ever felt affection for. There are things I'd change
if I could, but there's very little that gets seriously
in my way, and much that makes my computing life easier 
and more pleasant.

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Objective Is Your Subjectivity? A Quiz to Xeno

[marekreavis]

Wonderful story, Khazana108, thanks. I look forward to the next installment.

***

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Very possibly. But to be honest I'd prefer to hear about 
  your recent Road Trip. It sounds as if it may have been
  edifying. 
 
 Yes.
 
  If it's not classified :-), 
 
 Some of it.
 
  where did you go,
  and did you have fun there?
 
 Yes, some fun, and great experiences (I would have reported some of it 
 anyway), but also challenging situations.
 
 So places: All of it South India. Final landing place: Bangalore. The place I 
 stay most of the time is about 125 kms from Bangalore. I am there for doing 
 work, some overseeing works at several construction sites. Some working with 
 special machines, a heavy jackhammer, much of  the trip about 3-4 hours 
 daily. There is a school, the school is being expanded, the additional rooms 
 being created are actually very much needed, as the number of pupils doubled 
 since last May. (I was there too 3 month in the school holidays). I usually 
 do the heavy work, as I am fit (doing running regularly) and strong enough. 
 Other westerners who live there, either teach at the school, mostly women, or 
 do supervising and just other works and the different building sites. 
 Somebody has to direct all the works, control the Indian workers organize 
 materials, another person supervises the activities at another ground, has to 
 be there. take deliveries, pay workers etc.
 
 We are here in rural India, not in Bangalore or Pondichery, there are almost 
 constant power-cuts, since some day in June or July, when almost all of India 
 was without electricity the situation has worsened considerable. On many days 
 we will have power only about 3 hours, and you never know when. This is a 
 major problem for all building activities.
 
 On the place itself, I have a bicycle to get around, I go for food outside, I 
 know all the places, simple Indian food, meals, very hot, lots of chilly.
 
 The children are absolutely sweet, there is a smaller group of children, 
 living on the site, the majority is brought by a bus or by their parents. The 
 children who live on the site, I know all by name, some of them for a few 
 years now.
 
 This basically is my second home, This year I was there more often than in 
 Europe. 
 
 Since I finished my works early, I took a week off, I took a direct night bus 
 to Pondy, 4,5 hrs starting at 3 am, just to have some spiritual holiday, see 
 and bath in the ocean. It's not a new place to me, but it's more of a city, I 
 stay in a very affordable guest house, run and built by a German, I frequent 
 the Ashram places (Aurobindo Ashram), the Samadhi, and I want to go into the 
 Matri Mandir, the spiritual center of Auroville. I still don't know, if I 
 will stay three days or more, I am playing with the thought of going also to 
 Tiruvanamallai, which is on the way to Bangalore, where my flight will go 
 off. 
 
 This time I want to go into the Matri Mandir, I was there last 13 years back, 
 on my last trips to Pondy I found the administrative hurdle always too much, 
 you have to phone a certain number in Auroville between 10 and 11 am, just 
 one hour, to be able to maybe get a pass for the next day. I missed this time 
 on the date of my arrival, but somebody told me, as I have been there before, 
 they would give me admission if I just go there on the next day. There is a 
 bus leaving to Auroville everyday in front of the Ashram at 8.15 am, but that 
 is Indian time.  The bus brings you to the visiting center in Auroville, 
 where upon arrival immediately a long queu is being formed. There is an A 
 group and a B group, the A group are people who have an appointment to 
 actually meditate in the Matri Mandir, the meditation takes about 40 minutes 
 is in total silence, and is in the center of the building, starting from 10 
 am. But I have no reservation! No chance, the Indian lady says in a stern 
 voice. I ask her if I can talk with her, then say I have been inside before, 
 she says its full. But I could make an appointment, calling this number for 
 the next day. If you want, she says, you can meditate in the petal.  I 
 lighten up and immediately agree. The petals are small rooms adjoining the 
 main sanctuary of the Matri Mandir, the meditations are actually called 
 concentration. I now find out that there is actually even an email, to make a 
 reservation. So I walk the little path from the visitors center, and get to 
 the main entrance of the Matri Mandir. I tell my story again, and get a pass 
 for the petal, only two of the twelve petals are open for the meditation, 3 
 times are fixed in the morning, I am already late. I have to choose, do I 
 want 'goodness' or ' courage'? I said, whatever, no I have to choose. 
 Courage, I respond immediately, and the Indian lady smiles. 
 
 I walk there, again a lady 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shri Chakra found on Mars

[Richard J. Williams]

  Everyone knows the real Sri Chakra is up in
  Oregon, Billy. 
 
Alex Stanley:  
 Not true. It's actually right here in FF:
 
 http://goo.gl/maps/upVBQ

So, why do you suppose that Bill Witherspoon
decided to create a Sri Yantra up in Oregon?

Because Bill knew about the connection between 
SBS and Sri Vidya? The Sri Yantra is the
symbol of Sri Vidya.

And, why do you suppose MMY made the Golden
Dome based on the Sri Yantra diagram?

And, why do you suppose MMY was giving out the
Saraswati bija mantra to meditate on?

So many questions, Alex - so few answers!

Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making Someone Your Bitch

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, oxcart49 no_reply@... wrote:
snip
 I am not aware of too many who have small tantrums over others
 not wanting to respond to them.

It's pretty rare. And when someone does complain, it's 
typically in the context of an extended discussion that
the other person (often the one who initiated it) has
suddenly backed out of.

Barry's been pushing for *years* the notion that others
get upset when he doesn't respond to them and that any
comments they make about him are attempts to get him to
interact with them. That's just Barry trying to make
himself sound important and at the same time discourage
folks from making comments about him. That tactic has
been a total failure, but he can't seem to give it up.

 I find most people take umbrage
 at the nature of some interactions between themselves and other 
 posters. The problem is not that there ceases to be
 communication but that communications continues in a way that
 one or both parties find inflammatory or unpleasant or untrue.

Or they take umbrage at gratuitous attacks, such as are
almost always a feature of Barry's cafe raps (including
the one you're responding to). Or the drive-by attacks
khazana favors.

The funniest part about Barry's fulminations is that he
not only fantasizes about other people trying to get his
attention, he indulges in the very behavior he's
fantasizing about--and *boasts about doing it*.

This is perhaps the most interesting thing about Barry:
he is unable to recognize in himself the behavior that
he compulsively criticizes in others. And he's unable to
recognize it even when he's *made up* the behavior in
those he's criticizing.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shri Chakra found on Mars

[Alex Stanley]

So, it's all about Alex.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote:

 
 
   Everyone knows the real Sri Chakra is up in
   Oregon, Billy. 
  
 Alex Stanley:  
  Not true. It's actually right here in FF:
  
  http://goo.gl/maps/upVBQ
 
 So, why do you suppose that Bill Witherspoon
 decided to create a Sri Yantra up in Oregon?
 
 Because Bill knew about the connection between 
 SBS and Sri Vidya? The Sri Yantra is the
 symbol of Sri Vidya.
 
 And, why do you suppose MMY made the Golden
 Dome based on the Sri Yantra diagram?
 
 And, why do you suppose MMY was giving out the
 Saraswati bija mantra to meditate on?
 
 So many questions, Alex - so few answers!
 
 Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shri Chakra found on Mars

[Share Long]

Yowza!  Bulleye!  LOL




 From: Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 12:41 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shri Chakra found on Mars
 

  
So, it's all about Alex.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote:

 
 
   Everyone knows the real Sri Chakra is up in
   Oregon, Billy. 
  
 Alex Stanley: 
  Not true. It's actually right here in FF:
  
  http://goo.gl/maps/upVBQ
 
 So, why do you suppose that Bill Witherspoon
 decided to create a Sri Yantra up in Oregon?
 
 Because Bill knew about the connection between 
 SBS and Sri Vidya? The Sri Yantra is the
 symbol of Sri Vidya.
 
 And, why do you suppose MMY made the Golden
 Dome based on the Sri Yantra diagram?
 
 And, why do you suppose MMY was giving out the
 Saraswati bija mantra to meditate on?
 
 So many questions, Alex - so few answers!
 
 Go figure.



 

[FairfieldLife] Decoding Deepak showtimes today

[ultrarishi]

http://pdx.livingroomtheaters.com/movie_detail.cfm?movie_id=1263

[FairfieldLife] Re: American Veda

[ultrarishi]

I thought it was a terrific read.  Since I'm 58 and have been meditating  since 
1975 I have read / study / visited many of the visionaries and scoundrels 
covered in his book.  It also gave insight into what I have missed.  I consider 
his book the Cliff Notes to Vedanta or a Michelin Guide, if you will.

As a great companion piece I would also recommend The Harvard Psychedelic Club 
which cover the journeys of Houston Smith, Andrew Weil, Timothy Leary and Ram 
Das.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making Someone Your Bitch

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, oxcart49 no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
  I am not aware of too many who have small tantrums over others
  not wanting to respond to them.
 
 It's pretty rare. And when someone does complain, it's 
 typically in the context of an extended discussion that
 the other person (often the one who initiated it) has
 suddenly backed out of.
 
 Barry's been pushing for *years* the notion that others
 get upset when he doesn't respond to them and that any
 comments they make about him are attempts to get him to
 interact with them. That's just Barry trying to make
 himself sound important and at the same time discourage
 folks from making comments about him. That tactic has
 been a total failure, but he can't seem to give it up.
 
  I find most people take umbrage
  at the nature of some interactions between themselves and other 
  posters. The problem is not that there ceases to be
  communication but that communications continues in a way that
  one or both parties find inflammatory or unpleasant or untrue.
 
 Or they take umbrage at gratuitous attacks, such as are
 almost always a feature of Barry's cafe raps (including
 the one you're responding to). Or the drive-by attacks
 khazana favors.
 
 The funniest part about Barry's fulminations is that he
 not only fantasizes about other people trying to get his
 attention, he indulges in the very behavior he's
 fantasizing about--and *boasts about doing it*.
 
 This is perhaps the most interesting thing about Barry:
 he is unable to recognize in himself the behavior that
 he compulsively criticizes in others. And he's unable to
 recognize it even when he's *made up* the behavior in
 those he's criticizing.


So Barry walking into a psychiatrist's office:

Barry: I hate this fucking bullshit.
Judy: I know this is difficult. I'm very glad we're having this discussion.
Barry: Really, really? Because, I gotta be honest, I think this fucking sucks.
Judy: What does?
Barry: Therapy! THIS! I hate this fucking bullshit.
Judy: Sigh...
Barry: We're both adults here, right? So after all is said and done, after all 
the complaining and the crying, all the fucking bullshit...is this all there is?
 
http://youtu.be/tPxSLXTWy-E
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shri Chakra found on Mars

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 Nasa's Curiosity rover finds 'unusual rock'
 The pyramidal object had a composition not seen on the planet before.

That is rather limited information buck. Here is NASA's initial press release 
on the rock. It has a composition similar to that of feldspar. The shape is 
coincidental, and it does not look like a Shri Chakra.
http://tinyurl.com/9cvz483

[ 
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/news/whatsnew/index.cfm?FuseAction=ShowNewsNewsID=1375
 ]

Here is a closeup of the rock:
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/images/?ImageID=4695

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shri Chakra found on Mars

[emptybill]

The other 15 TM mantras are Martian mantras and don't really count.
Wik-Willi found out from  Shankara (when he came forward in time with
his siddhi-s) that only Sarah's swatty mantra was the one to use.

That why he keeps repeating himself about Sarah's swati. Guess that is
what mantra japa must mean to Willi … bein'  Shankara's
personal disciple and all.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
richard@... wrote:



   Everyone knows the real Sri Chakra is up in
   Oregon, Billy.
  
 Alex Stanley:
  Not true. It's actually right here in FF:
 
  http://goo.gl/maps/upVBQ
 
 So, why do you suppose that Bill Witherspoon
 decided to create a Sri Yantra up in Oregon?

 Because Bill knew about the connection between
 SBS and Sri Vidya? The Sri Yantra is the
 symbol of Sri Vidya.

 And, why do you suppose MMY made the Golden
 Dome based on the Sri Yantra diagram?

 And, why do you suppose MMY was giving out the
 Saraswati bija mantra to meditate on?

 So many questions, Alex - so few answers!

 Go figure.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Robin's Reality [to Judy]

[Xenophaneros Anartaxius]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ 
 wrote:
 
  While I clearly make mistakes in what I write, it is a
  deceptive tactic you have to edit statements and then
  reply to those statements out of context of the full
  paragraph.
 
 Look, I know you're upset because you got caught in so
 many stupid mistakes in your latest attempt to get
 Robin through me, but your objection here is pretty
 silly. It is in no way a deceptive tactic as long as
 enough context is preserved to follow the argument.
 
 I do my best not to snip significant context, but
 sometimes it's a judgment call. If you feel I deleted
 context that was essential to following the discussion,
 feel free to restore whatever you think should have
 been kept in.
 
 (You didn't happen to get an email from khazana before
 writing this post, did you?)

No. I have been off the Internet for a few days. I have seen those posts 
subsequently.
 
  While I cut and pasted various statements out
  of some of Robin's posts on which I commented, I did not
  trim any of your statements when I replied to them.
 
 You would have been welcome to do so as long as you were
 careful not to eliminate significant context. I would
 *encourage* you to do so, in fact.
 
  It creates a subtle shift in meaning to do that and I feel
  you do it to bolster your own points by eliminating the
  shades of context.
 
 You are mistaken as to why I do it. It's a time-honored
 practice on electronic forums. It's always been considered
 courteous to snip whatever is not important to the context,
 especially in a lengthy discussion.

Sometimes it has that effect. I do understand that in long posts it makes 
things more legible.
 
  You have accused me of ignoring context but that is more
  because I experience the context differently than you.
  Knowledge is different in different states of consciousness
  (and that does not imply I am in a different 'higher' level
  of consciousness than you), and those words that are cut
  represent what goes on in my mind.
 
  When you reply to people you trim down the context and it
  does make your replies look snappier and more to the point,
  and it reduces the chance that you will have to discuss
  more general related issues and grey areas in what was said.
 
 Xeno, I'm sure everything you write represents what goes on
 in your mind. The problem is your mind tends to *wander*.
 You typically go on and on and ON about stuff that is only 
 marginally, if at all, related to a discussion. I snip that
 because I'm not interested in discussing it.

In some peculiar way, everything is related to everything else. You do not see 
the forest for the trees, but when discussing trees you are unmatchable. We 
were discussing our views of Robin. Not Robin's views, since he was not part of 
the conversation. Unless you have that Third POV of Reality that Robin talks 
about, it would seem, that according to him, you would not be discussing truth, 
and nor would I have been either.
 
 I *don't* snip it, however, if it seems to be making a point
 that's important to the issue being discussed.
 
  Now Robin does that far less, he creates so much context
  it is difficult to wade through, but in many ways it is
  less disagreeable than your method; it is more poetic, how
  Robin interacts with the world.
 
 Robin interacts with the world his way, I interact with the
 world my way. Snipping extraneous content that is no longer 
 immediately relevant to a lengthy discussion makes it easier
 to follow both for the discussants and for anyone else
 reading it.
 
  If you have a poetic soul, you certainly manage to hide it.
 
 Never claimed to have a poetic soul. I have an editorial
 soul. My interest is in clarity and accuracy and, where
 appropriate, brevity.

I agree with this!
 
  People of course can go back to the original post, but as
  you know, most, excepting especially you, do not do that,
  perhaps for lack of time, impatience, and a habit of
  responding to the moment.
 
 Xeno, you aren't getting it. If people have been following
 the discussion all along, they won't need to go back to
 the original post. If they come in in the middle, it's up
 to them whether they want to take the time to get caught
 up on what came before. It's not up to me to save them the
 time or cater to their impatience or habits of responding.

Going back to an original post sometimes shows that the conversation has 
drifted considerably from the original material, and yet that conversation 
still seems to be about the original post, and refers to what was said in that 
post and the few that initially followed it, and yet the context of that has 
drifted considerably.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Making Someone Your Bitch

[raunchydog]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, oxcart49 no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
  I am not aware of too many who have small tantrums over others
  not wanting to respond to them.
 
 It's pretty rare. And when someone does complain, it's 
 typically in the context of an extended discussion that
 the other person (often the one who initiated it) has
 suddenly backed out of.
 
 Barry's been pushing for *years* the notion that others
 get upset when he doesn't respond to them and that any
 comments they make about him are attempts to get him to
 interact with them. That's just Barry trying to make
 himself sound important and at the same time discourage
 folks from making comments about him. That tactic has
 been a total failure, but he can't seem to give it up.
 
  I find most people take umbrage
  at the nature of some interactions between themselves and other 
  posters. The problem is not that there ceases to be
  communication but that communications continues in a way that
  one or both parties find inflammatory or unpleasant or untrue.
 
 Or they take umbrage at gratuitous attacks, such as are
 almost always a feature of Barry's cafe raps (including
 the one you're responding to). Or the drive-by attacks
 khazana favors.
 
 The funniest part about Barry's fulminations is that he
 not only fantasizes about other people trying to get his
 attention, he indulges in the very behavior he's
 fantasizing about--and *boasts about doing it*.
 
 This is perhaps the most interesting thing about Barry:
 he is unable to recognize in himself the behavior that
 he compulsively criticizes in others. And he's unable to
 recognize it even when he's *made up* the behavior in
 those he's criticizing.


So Barry, the paragon of self-awareness, walked into a psychiatrist's office:

Barry: Obviously, I'm prone to narcissistic personality disorder and 
depression, a certain bleak Buddhist attitude about the world. I know I can 
handle it, but Khazana can't...like when he becomes your bitch. I'd give 
anything in the world to trade places with him so he doesn't have to suffer. 
And to think you're the cause of it...
Judy: How are you the cause of it?
Barry: It's in his blood...his miserable fucking existence...my rotten fucking 
putrid genes...I've infected Khazana's soul. That's my gift to Khazana.   
Judy: I know this is difficult. I'm very glad we're having this discussion.
Barry: Really, really? Because, I gotta be honest, I think this fucking sucks.
Judy: What does?
Barry: Therapy! THIS! I hate this fucking bullshit.
Judy: Sigh...
Barry: We're both adults here, right? So after all is said and done, after all 
the complaining and the crying, all the fucking bullshit...is this all there is?
Judy: I think our time is up.

http://youtu.be/tPxSLXTWy-E

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Worst version of Windoze ever?!

[Bhairitu]

On 10/14/2012 10:22 AM, authfriend wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
 snip
 And then I'll be in the middle of doing some when some
 application or Windows itself pops up a message saying that
 an update is available taking way the focus in the window
 where I may be typing.  I could wring those developers necks
 for that.
 Huh, that doesn't happen on my Win7 machine.

They're called balloon tips and maybe someone turned them off for you.  
There are ways to do that but it needs to be much easier.  And from a 
programming standpoint they shouldn't be allowed to take away the focus 
when you are typing in a pane.  They time out.  I did once try some 
different settings on Windows 7 but didn't like them so set it back to 
default.  The other part is the machine may sit unused for over a week.  
It's mainly used for those 3D animations I make for YouTube and other 
video editing.  Very little programming is done on it because I can do 
most everything except Windows specific on Linux.

 On Linux a little icon up
 in the top back will notify you if there are updates and
 not get in the way at all.
 My machine puts an icon on the taskbar when new updates
 are available. I have to remember to look for it.

Yes it does that too and probably all it needs to do.  They are SO 
concerned about granny not taking security measures on her machine that 
they feel the need to put up the balloon tips.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Worst version of Windoze ever?!

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 10/14/2012 10:22 AM, authfriend wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
  snip
  And then I'll be in the middle of doing some when some
  application or Windows itself pops up a message saying that
  an update is available taking way the focus in the window
  where I may be typing.  I could wring those developers necks
  for that.
 
  Huh, that doesn't happen on my Win7 machine.
 
 They're called balloon tips and maybe someone turned them
 off for you.

Nope, nobody did anything to this machine but moi.

 There are ways to do that but it needs to be much easier.  And
 from a programming standpoint they shouldn't be allowed to take 
 away the focus when you are typing in a pane.

They sure shouldn't, at least not without a way to disable
that. I do not blame you for being annoyed.

 They time out.  I did once try some different settings on
 Windows 7 but didn't like them so set it back to default.
 The other part is the machine may sit unused for over a week.  
 It's mainly used for those 3D animations I make for YouTube
 and other video editing.  Very little programming is done on
 it because I can do most everything except Windows specific
 on Linux.
 
  On Linux a little icon up
  in the top back will notify you if there are updates and
  not get in the way at all.
 
  My machine puts an icon on the taskbar when new updates
  are available. I have to remember to look for it.
 
 Yes it does that too and probably all it needs to do.

That's all it needs to do for me. I get a weekly newsletter
that reports on problems with new updates; I usually wait
for that before I install them, so it doesn't matter if I
don't notice right away that they're available.

 They are SO concerned about granny not taking security
 measures on her machine that they feel the need to put
 up the balloon tips.

Well, as I say, no balloon tips on my machine; but Windows
considers the fact that I have it set not to do automatic
updates an issue, which cracks me up. But it doesn't bug
me about it. It just wants it to be on the record that it
disapproves.

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Objective Is Your Subjectivity? A Quiz to Xeno

[khazana108]

Barry, and also Marek, and whoever has been reading this, I'll hit the road 
tomorrow, going to East Germany, so I won't complete it tonight, still have to 
back and prepare some things.  Don't expect too much though, and pretty near 
the end. Thanks for giving me the thumbs up. :-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:

 Very nice. An adventure, indeed. And you have a great way of describing
 it. Thanks.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   Very possibly. But to be honest I'd prefer to hear about
   your recent Road Trip. It sounds as if it may have been
   edifying.
 
  Yes.
 
   If it's not classified :-),
 
  Some of it.
 
   where did you go,
   and did you have fun there?
 
  Yes, some fun, and great experiences (I would have reported some of it
 anyway), but also challenging situations.
 
  So places: All of it South India. Final landing place: Bangalore. The
 place I stay most of the time is about 125 kms from Bangalore. I am
 there for doing work, some overseeing works at several construction
 sites. Some working with special machines, a heavy jackhammer, much of 
 the trip about 3-4 hours daily. There is a school, the school is being
 expanded, the additional rooms being created are actually very much
 needed, as the number of pupils doubled since last May. (I was there too
 3 month in the school holidays). I usually do the heavy work, as I am
 fit (doing running regularly) and strong enough. Other westerners who
 live there, either teach at the school, mostly women, or do supervising
 and just other works and the different building sites. Somebody has to
 direct all the works, control the Indian workers organize materials,
 another person supervises the activities at another ground, has to be
 there. take deliveries, pay workers etc.
 
  We are here in rural India, not in Bangalore or Pondichery, there are
 almost constant power-cuts, since some day in June or July, when almost
 all of India was without electricity the situation has worsened
 considerable. On many days we will have power only about 3 hours, and
 you never know when. This is a major problem for all building
 activities.
 
  On the place itself, I have a bicycle to get around, I go for food
 outside, I know all the places, simple Indian food, meals, very hot,
 lots of chilly.
 
  The children are absolutely sweet, there is a smaller group of
 children, living on the site, the majority is brought by a bus or by
 their parents. The children who live on the site, I know all by name,
 some of them for a few years now.
 
  This basically is my second home, This year I was there more often
 than in Europe.
 
  Since I finished my works early, I took a week off, I took a direct
 night bus to Pondy, 4,5 hrs starting at 3 am, just to have some
 spiritual holiday, see and bath in the ocean. It's not a new place to
 me, but it's more of a city, I stay in a very affordable guest house,
 run and built by a German, I frequent the Ashram places (Aurobindo
 Ashram), the Samadhi, and I want to go into the Matri Mandir, the
 spiritual center of Auroville. I still don't know, if I will stay three
 days or more, I am playing with the thought of going also to
 Tiruvanamallai, which is on the way to Bangalore, where my flight will
 go off.
 
  This time I want to go into the Matri Mandir, I was there last 13
 years back, on my last trips to Pondy I found the administrative hurdle
 always too much, you have to phone a certain number in Auroville between
 10 and 11 am, just one hour, to be able to maybe get a pass for the next
 day. I missed this time on the date of my arrival, but somebody told me,
 as I have been there before, they would give me admission if I just go
 there on the next day. There is a bus leaving to Auroville everyday in
 front of the Ashram at 8.15 am, but that is Indian time.  The bus brings
 you to the visiting center in Auroville, where upon arrival immediately
 a long queu is being formed. There is an A group and a B group, the A
 group are people who have an appointment to actually meditate in the
 Matri Mandir, the meditation takes about 40 minutes is in total silence,
 and is in the center of the building, starting from 10 am. But I have no
 reservation! No chance, the Indian lady says in a stern voice. I ask her
 if I can talk with her, then say I have been inside before, she says its
 full. But I could make an appointment, calling this number for the next
 day. If you want, she says, you can meditate in the petal.  I lighten up
 and immediately agree. The petals are small rooms adjoining the main
 sanctuary of the Matri Mandir, the meditations are actually called
 concentration. I now find out that there is actually even an email, to
 make a reservation. So I walk the little path from the visitors center,
 and get to the main entrance of the Matri Mandir. I tell my story again,
 and get 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Worst version of Windoze ever?!

[Alex Stanley]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 I get a weekly newsletter that reports on problems with new updates;
 I usually wait for that before I install them

Is there a link where one can sign up for that?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Worst version of Windoze ever?!

[Bhairitu]

On 10/14/2012 02:27 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
 I get a weekly newsletter that reports on problems with new updates;
 I usually wait for that before I install them
 Is there a link where one can sign up for that?




Always a good idea to wait on updates as users have been burned 
before.   I even am leery about Linux updates especially to new versions 
of the OS.  I have to be 100% sure my development environment won't be 
screwed over by updating the OS.  In one case Google updated their test 
systems from Ubuntu 9 to 10 and their updates for developers running 9 
no longer worked.  Well they did learn from that.

The control panel does give options to turn off the icons but lacks the 
option to leave icons on and notifications off.  But one apparently 
(because I haven't tried it yet) selectively turn off icons from the 
Action Center.  One notification for HP printer stuff needed to be 
turned off because I no longer use the printer but might want to leave 
it installed because I might want to use it for scanning and copying.  
Printing?  Ugh, they seem to time the cartridges so that they show empty 
about after 3 months even if they are not.  I replaced the printer with 
a Kodak one over three months ago and it's still showing plenty of ink.

[FairfieldLife] YF and myopia?

[card]

Recently, I've noticed a curious thing:
YFfing seems diminish my myopia (about -2,75[R] and -1,75[L]).

Any comments?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shri Chakra found on Mars

[wgm4u]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:

 
 The other 15 TM mantras are Martian mantras and don't really count.
 Wik-Willi found out from  Shankara (when he came forward in time with
 his siddhi-s) that only Sarah's swatty mantra was the one to use.
 
 That why he keeps repeating himself about Sarah's swati. Guess that is
 what mantra japa must mean to Willi … bein'  Shankara's
 personal disciple and all.

For someone who seems to know his stuff you sure are cynical emptybill.
What's the deal?, did you lose 3 grand on the Siddhis and are now bitter? Or, 
like Maharishi, the whole world never beat a path to his door so he died 
bitter? and of course damn democracy and the 'Britishers' for destroying the 
Vedic culture of India (doubtful if that actually even happened).

[FairfieldLife] Re: Worst version of Windoze ever?!

[card]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 10/14/2012 02:27 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
  I get a weekly newsletter that reports on problems with new updates;
  I usually wait for that before I install them
  Is there a link where one can sign up for that?
 
 
 
 
 Always a good idea to wait on updates as users have been burned 
 before.   I even am leery about Linux updates especially to new versions 
 of the OS.  I have to be 100% sure my development environment won't be 
 screwed over by updating the OS.  In one case Google updated their test 
 systems from Ubuntu 9 to 10 and their updates for developers running 9 
 no longer worked.  Well they did learn from that.
 
 The control panel does give options to turn off the icons but lacks the 
 option to leave icons on and notifications off.  But one apparently 
 (because I haven't tried it yet) selectively turn off icons from the 
 Action Center.  One notification for HP printer stuff needed to be 
 turned off because I no longer use the printer but might want to leave 
 it installed because I might want to use it for scanning and copying.  
 Printing?  Ugh, they seem to time the cartridges so that they show empty 
 about after 3 months even if they are not.  I replaced the printer with 
 a Kodak one over three months ago and it's still showing plenty of ink.


Hmmm

http://www.ehow.com/how_5187392_reset-hp-inkjet-cartridge.html

Not sure if that's of any help, though...

[FairfieldLife] Only if you really WANT to, can you sieze the day (capria diem). Enya

[wgm4u]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C68nicab4sfeature=fvsr

We are not the slaves to our past, we CAN change, the choice is ours!

Either embrace joyously *natural law* or suffer accordingly, this is the 
message of the 10 commandments, Yama/Niyama and all of the proscriptions and 
prescriptions of the World's great Religions, they are designed to SAVE us from 
suffering, not to limit indiscriminate 'pleasures'. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Worst version of Windoze ever?!

[Bhairitu]

On 10/14/2012 03:35 PM, card wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
 On 10/14/2012 02:27 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
 I get a weekly newsletter that reports on problems with new updates;
 I usually wait for that before I install them
 Is there a link where one can sign up for that?



 Always a good idea to wait on updates as users have been burned
 before.   I even am leery about Linux updates especially to new versions
 of the OS.  I have to be 100% sure my development environment won't be
 screwed over by updating the OS.  In one case Google updated their test
 systems from Ubuntu 9 to 10 and their updates for developers running 9
 no longer worked.  Well they did learn from that.

 The control panel does give options to turn off the icons but lacks the
 option to leave icons on and notifications off.  But one apparently
 (because I haven't tried it yet) selectively turn off icons from the
 Action Center.  One notification for HP printer stuff needed to be
 turned off because I no longer use the printer but might want to leave
 it installed because I might want to use it for scanning and copying.
 Printing?  Ugh, they seem to time the cartridges so that they show empty
 about after 3 months even if they are not.  I replaced the printer with
 a Kodak one over three months ago and it's still showing plenty of ink.

 Hmmm

 http://www.ehow.com/how_5187392_reset-hp-inkjet-cartridge.html

 Not sure if that's of any help, though...



Thanks, but the Kodak printer has a better footprint and seems to be 
thought out better than the HP (and that trick may not even work with my 
HP printer).  It's also less clunky.  HP printers often sound like an 
old thresher starting up.  I recall meeting with a printer team back in 
the 1990s when it was a real company and they were very proud of their 
work and striven to make good devices. Then came Carly.

[FairfieldLife] Hollywood at it's best!

[wgm4u]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54XztbNJ87gfeature=endscreenNR=1

[FairfieldLife] Re: Only if you really WANT to, can you sieze the day (capria diem). Enya

[authfriend]

If you're going to use Latin in your little homilies,
take the time to get it right. It's carpe diem, not
capria diem.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C68nicab4sfeature=fvsr
 
 We are not the slaves to our past, we CAN change, the choice is ours!
 
 Either embrace joyously *natural law* or suffer accordingly, this is the 
 message of the 10 commandments, Yama/Niyama and all of the proscriptions and 
 prescriptions of the World's great Religions, they are designed to SAVE us 
 from suffering, not to limit indiscriminate 'pleasures'.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Only if you really WANT to, can you sieze the day (capria diem). Enya

[wgm4u]

Yes, Mother.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:

 If you're going to use Latin in your little homilies,
 take the time to get it right. It's carpe diem, not
 capria diem.
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@ wrote:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C68nicab4sfeature=fvsr
  
  We are not the slaves to our past, we CAN change, the choice is ours!
  
  Either embrace joyously *natural law* or suffer accordingly, this is the 
  message of the 10 commandments, Yama/Niyama and all of the proscriptions 
  and prescriptions of the World's great Religions, they are designed to SAVE 
  us from suffering, not to limit indiscriminate 'pleasures'.
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: TV: Pile-on Sunday gets Crazier

[ultrarishi]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 The Walking Dead returns tonight and I also enjoy the follow up 
 Talking Dead.   Watch for Chris Hardwick to be the next generation 
 Letterman or Leno.  My DVR's schedule looked like a disaster with 
 Clipped showing on two shows due to the overlap of Kevin Smith's 
 Comic Book Men which also returns tonight.  I figured I could find the 
 later showing of it as I'm not going to get to everything that is 
 scheduled anyway for a couple days.  Even Boardwalk Empire and Treme 
 get shoved off to watch another day.
 
 Not on the schedule will be 666 Park Avenue which failed whelm me with 
 the first two episodes.  So far of the new series only Last Resort has 
 done that.  I'll see where Revolution goes for one more episode.  And 
 I will see how Nashville does beyond the pilot but then that show, 
 which is ABC's answer to HBO's Treme but with country music holds more 
 of an interest because of having been in the music business.
 
 I decided to drop BBC's Bedlam from my watch list after the second 
 episode.  If I want to  watch horror there are lots of much edgier 
 movies I can watch on Netflix including watching the granddaddy of all 
 paranormal films Legend of Hell House which has joined the line up 
 there apparently a result of their deal with 20th Century Fox.  There 
 are a lot of little films these days that can be quite good.  Because 
 one can film a movie with a digital SLR camera costing even less than 
 $1000 and renting lenses and edit on your PC there is no need for 
 expensive productions.  Film school has been reduced to a science and 
 there is not even an excuse for bad acting or writing anymore.


We are tied up currently with downloading HOMELAND and DOWNTON ABBEY SEASON 3.  
Have a bit of interest in ELEMENTARY and COPPER.  Our guilty pleasure is 
watching THE WEST WING.  We finally go old enough and smart enough to 
understand it, plus it is interesting to see all the issues Sorkin wrote about 
10 years ago are still here.  We can't wait for the return of NEWSROOM, GAME OF 
THRONES, and ENLIGHTENMENT.
We say goodbye to WEEDS which needed a rest.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Principles

[Buck]

Order is present everywhere.
 
 Life is found in layers.
  
  Outer depends on inner.
   
   Water the root to enjoy the fruit.

Rest and Activity are the steps of progress.
 
 Enjoy and accomplish more. 
  
  Every action has a reaction.
   
   Purification leads to progress.

The field of all possibilities is the source of all solutions.
 
 Thought leads to action.
  
  Action leads to achievement. 
   
   Achievement leads to fulfillment.

Knowledge is gained from inside and outside.
 
 The world is as we are.
  
  Opposites are found together. 
   
   The whole is found in every part.
   
The whole is more than the sum of the parts.
   
  
 

   
  
 

   
  
 

   
  
 

[FairfieldLife] The Future of Human Flight

[stevelf]

 so please have some fun and follow me here
   to start- just to make sure you know the subject material:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhmzmOwkRuMlist=LPVMyYcSqP2CIindex=1feature=plcp


 I hope that was easy to click...

 OK , so now the huge goal is to somehow land without a chute.
 well, actually a Brit' recently did just that:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhmzmOwkRuMlist=LPVMyYcSqP2CIindex=1feature=plcp


OK, so now ur up-to-speed

 I predict the initial-contact-landing-area to be a BIG/LONG inverted 
-ski-jump-landing-type-thing slowly narrowing down with a loop or two or three 
in a waterslide type set-up.. Jeff is planning some kind of AMAZING landing 
in Vegas.. he has NASA experts working with him--- a secret landing 
strip
 look at this angle and tell me what you think
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdkDdBz6f_o

[FairfieldLife] Re: How Objective Is Your Subjectivity? A Quiz to Xeno

[Susan]

REally glad you are back, Khazana. And looking forward to more of your 
adventures.  I ahve never been to India, so for me this is especially 
interesting and sweet.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@... wrote:

 Barry, and also Marek, and whoever has been reading this, I'll hit the road 
 tomorrow, going to East Germany, so I won't complete it tonight, still have 
 to back and prepare some things.  Don't expect too much though, and pretty 
 near the end. Thanks for giving me the thumbs up. :-)
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Very nice. An adventure, indeed. And you have a great way of describing
  it. Thanks.
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
   
Very possibly. But to be honest I'd prefer to hear about
your recent Road Trip. It sounds as if it may have been
edifying.
  
   Yes.
  
If it's not classified :-),
  
   Some of it.
  
where did you go,
and did you have fun there?
  
   Yes, some fun, and great experiences (I would have reported some of it
  anyway), but also challenging situations.
  
   So places: All of it South India. Final landing place: Bangalore. The
  place I stay most of the time is about 125 kms from Bangalore. I am
  there for doing work, some overseeing works at several construction
  sites. Some working with special machines, a heavy jackhammer, much of 
  the trip about 3-4 hours daily. There is a school, the school is being
  expanded, the additional rooms being created are actually very much
  needed, as the number of pupils doubled since last May. (I was there too
  3 month in the school holidays). I usually do the heavy work, as I am
  fit (doing running regularly) and strong enough. Other westerners who
  live there, either teach at the school, mostly women, or do supervising
  and just other works and the different building sites. Somebody has to
  direct all the works, control the Indian workers organize materials,
  another person supervises the activities at another ground, has to be
  there. take deliveries, pay workers etc.
  
   We are here in rural India, not in Bangalore or Pondichery, there are
  almost constant power-cuts, since some day in June or July, when almost
  all of India was without electricity the situation has worsened
  considerable. On many days we will have power only about 3 hours, and
  you never know when. This is a major problem for all building
  activities.
  
   On the place itself, I have a bicycle to get around, I go for food
  outside, I know all the places, simple Indian food, meals, very hot,
  lots of chilly.
  
   The children are absolutely sweet, there is a smaller group of
  children, living on the site, the majority is brought by a bus or by
  their parents. The children who live on the site, I know all by name,
  some of them for a few years now.
  
   This basically is my second home, This year I was there more often
  than in Europe.
  
   Since I finished my works early, I took a week off, I took a direct
  night bus to Pondy, 4,5 hrs starting at 3 am, just to have some
  spiritual holiday, see and bath in the ocean. It's not a new place to
  me, but it's more of a city, I stay in a very affordable guest house,
  run and built by a German, I frequent the Ashram places (Aurobindo
  Ashram), the Samadhi, and I want to go into the Matri Mandir, the
  spiritual center of Auroville. I still don't know, if I will stay three
  days or more, I am playing with the thought of going also to
  Tiruvanamallai, which is on the way to Bangalore, where my flight will
  go off.
  
   This time I want to go into the Matri Mandir, I was there last 13
  years back, on my last trips to Pondy I found the administrative hurdle
  always too much, you have to phone a certain number in Auroville between
  10 and 11 am, just one hour, to be able to maybe get a pass for the next
  day. I missed this time on the date of my arrival, but somebody told me,
  as I have been there before, they would give me admission if I just go
  there on the next day. There is a bus leaving to Auroville everyday in
  front of the Ashram at 8.15 am, but that is Indian time.  The bus brings
  you to the visiting center in Auroville, where upon arrival immediately
  a long queu is being formed. There is an A group and a B group, the A
  group are people who have an appointment to actually meditate in the
  Matri Mandir, the meditation takes about 40 minutes is in total silence,
  and is in the center of the building, starting from 10 am. But I have no
  reservation! No chance, the Indian lady says in a stern voice. I ask her
  if I can talk with her, then say I have been inside before, she says its
  full. But I could make an appointment, calling this number for the next
  day. If you want, she says, you can meditate in the petal.  I lighten up
  and immediately agree. The petals are 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Future of Human Flight

[stevelf]

 and one more gem.:
 
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/aviation/diy-flying/high-flying-wingsuit-adventures-2

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, stevelf ysoy10li@... wrote:

  so please have some fun and follow me here
to start- just to make sure you know the subject material:
  
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhmzmOwkRuMlist=LPVMyYcSqP2CIindex=1feature=plcp
 
 
  I hope that was easy to click...
 
  OK , so now the huge goal is to somehow land without a chute.
  well, actually a Brit' recently did just that:
  
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhmzmOwkRuMlist=LPVMyYcSqP2CIindex=1feature=plcp
 
 
 OK, so now ur up-to-speed
 
  I predict the initial-contact-landing-area to be a BIG/LONG inverted 
 -ski-jump-landing-type-thing slowly narrowing down with a loop or two or 
 three in a waterslide type set-up.. Jeff is planning some kind of AMAZING 
 landing in Vegas.. he has NASA experts working with him--- a secret 
 landing strip
  look at this angle and tell me what you think
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdkDdBz6f_o

[FairfieldLife] Re: American as Apple Pie and Baseball

[raunchydog]

Tigers beat Yankees 3-0.

NEW YORK -- The Detroit Tigers got a big boost from Anibal Sanchez's arm and a 
helping hand from an umpire, too.
The reward: a commanding two-games-to-none lead in the A.L. Championship Series 
and a trip home with their ace ready to start.
Sanchez shut down a Yankees lineup minus injured Derek Jeter, and Detroit 
scored twice after an admitted missed call by an umpire to beat New York 3-0 
Sunday.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:

 Tigers beat Yankees 6-4 in 12 innings.
 http://tinyurl.com/9oks2dl
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
 
  The last time I paid any attention to baseball was 1968 when the Detroit 
  Tigers won the World Series against the St. Louis Cardinals, the year after 
  the 1967 riots. We were a little gun shy about celebrating, but celebrate 
  we did. A confluence of beer swilling fans, the honking of horns and the 
  yelling of Go Get 'Em Tigers! blasted happiness into the city as the 
  nightmare of 1967 reseeded briefly from memory. No one got killed rioting 
  or looting. National Guard tanks didn't roll into the city to protect 
  barricaded police stations under siege. Detroit measured its victory by 
  lack of disaster. 
  
  My brother lives in Michigan, a crazed Tigers fan, excited about another 
  World Series win. Despite my long absence from Tigers worship, the World 
  Series and Robin's mention of Steve's interest in the Albert Pujols and 
  Yadier Molina St. Louis Cardinal's bromance, baseball has once again 
  captured my imagination. http://youtu.be/7HkAQE98efw
  
  Damn! I wish my mother hadn't thrown out my 1950's baseball cards! Al 
  Kaline, Yogi Berra, Mickey Mantle...Damn!
  
  The Tigers are four victories from the World Series. Most of you figured 
  this is where they belonged when the season started. The question is: How 
  many of you thought this four weeks ago? When a loss always seemed to 
  follow a victory and the Tigers couldn't catch those pesky White Sox? 
  Detroit's uneven -- and frustrating -- regular season felt a long way away 
  Thursday night in Oakland as the Tigers celebrated their second consecutive 
  trip to the American League Championship Series. This time it's to face the 
  Yankees. Game 1 will be 8:07 tonight at Yankee Stadium.
  http://www.freep.com/article/20121013/SPORTS02/310130130/After-more-champagne-Tigers-turned-to-unfinished-business-against-Yankees
  
  My sister moved near St. Louis and defected to the Cardinals. Traitor!