[FairfieldLife] RE: Advaita is about inherent freedom
Can't find 'viyoga' in the YS. OTOH, there is the word viniyoga in III 6: tasya bhuumiSu viniyogaH. Taimni's translation: Its (of saMyama) use by stages. viniyoga m. apportionment , distribution , division Nir. ; appointment to (loc.) , commission , charge , duty , task , occupation MBh. R. c. [970,3] ; employment , use , application (esp. of a verse in ritual) TA1r. Hariv. c. ;
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
Hey John, it sounds like a really good game. I'm remembering that back in the fall, Farmer's Almanac predicted a big storm for Feb 2. I just listened to Peyton Manning's post game interview and he seems like a humble guy. Might google for his chart (-: On Monday, January 20, 2014 1:50 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Emily, It was a good game. The 49ers played their hearts out. But the fans up there are just too loud and spirited to get a win in that stadium. Also, the Seahawks defense was very solid. Since my home team lost, I am now rooting for the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. Most of the football pundits are now favoring the Seahawks to win. But you can never be too sure with Peyton Manning as the QB for the Broncos.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom
emptybill, thanks for your clarity here. This brings to my mind Maharishi's teaching that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness. Purusha Prakriti realization seems to be a GC experience to me whereas the experience of moksha as one's basic nature seems more like Unity. A friend is on a retreat where they are discussing three stages of Brahman: basic, refined and Wholeness or holiness. Mind boggling to me! On Sunday, January 19, 2014 4:35 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: A popular view of Advaita Vedanta (sometimes an accusation) is that it is Maya-vada ... the doctrine that everything is mere Maya. This is a classical misrepresentation that began with Ramanuja (11th Century head of the Sri Vaishnava-s) and continues down to today. Probably one reason for the misunderstanding is that different teachers presented alternate explanations of the Brahma Sutras. In essence, they held contrary preconceptions. Another reason is that discussions about the nature of Maya became continuous in debates between Advaita scholars. This led to the belief that “Maya talk” was the core of Advaita. The reality is that Advaita is more accurately call Brahma-vada, the teaching about Brahman. It uses the principal Upanishads, the Brahma Sutras and the Bhagavad Gita as a threefold authoritative Vedic source. However, leading up to the 14th Century, the Yoga Sutras became an alternate source for understanding the path to realize Brahman. By the middle of the 14th-15th Century, this view so infiltrated Advaita Vedanta that the works of Shankaracharya Swami Vidyâranya (who wrote Pañchadâši and Jivanmuktiviveka) presumed that students of Advaita followed a yogic path to realize Brahman. The modern proponent of this view was Swami Vivekananda. MMY just continued that mode – which included the division of the Bhagavad Gita into three topical sections, a theme also found in Sri Aurobindo Ghose. Scholars now call this interpretation “Yogic Advaita” - an interpretation that is more about yoga and less about Advaita Vedanta. Perhaps more perplexing for those studying Advaita, the concept of “enlightenment” (so over-popularized) was borrowed from the Buddhists – and is neither Yogic nor Vedantic. The Yoga Sutras, in fact, do not even propose yoga as a goal but rather discuss the necessity for “vi-yoga” … separating, dis-uniting, dis-joining. Thus the question … “separating what from what”? In this case, separating the apparent con-fusion (fusing together) between awareness (purusha) and the field of experience (i.e. body, senses, mind). Contrary to this Yogic assumption of two orders of reality (purusha and prakriti), Shankara’s Vedanta teaches the inherent unity of Reality (Brahman). Rather than chitta-vritti-nirodha, nirvikalpa-samâdhi or Buddhist dhyana-samâpatti, Advaita points to the direct ascertainment of one’s own true nature. The purpose of such recognition is seeing directly that moksha (freedom) is already the inherent nature of human beings. It also recognizes that moksha is freedom from any experience, while realizing that like waves moving across the ocean, experience is itself nothing but Brahman.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
Yes, I would agree with you, in that the offensive line didn't help him out much. He took a lot of hits. Kaepernick made some mistakes, but he is clearly a heck of a QB; that one 58-yard run he did was sweet. We are on a role this year. The city is going crazy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote: Really, I thought your QB was pretty mediocre. Or maybe it was because for most the game your offensive line gave him no protection. Luckily your defense was up to the task. But the SF QB, didn't have the best game either. Good luck February 2nd! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emilymaenot@... wrote: I am officially making this the first game of the season that I am going to watch. If asked, I don't think I could live down a statement that I read a book instead. I pray for no injuries. Luckily, in my life, I have dated enough sports fiends to know the basic rules and plays of the game, which I am going to run down to my 20-year old daughter, as she should know *something* about football, if only to participate in chit-chat.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
John, yes, the fans...fireworks were going off in my neighborhood after the game, scaring the dog. Geez. I was happy to watch it on the old T.V. Wouldn't have wanted to be at the game. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Emily, It was a good game. The 49ers played their hearts out. But the fans up there are just too loud and spirited to get a win in that stadium. Also, the Seahawks defense was very solid. Since my home team lost, I am now rooting for the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. Most of the football pundits are now favoring the Seahawks to win. But you can never be too sure with Peyton Manning as the QB for the Broncos.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
The outcome or this weekend's games had to be this way, according to the Limbaugh theorem. You see, the Patriots represent a bunch of greedy, white, land grabbing, slave owning, racist, sexist ,homophobes playing the Brancos, wild spirited horses that the Native Americans(natural and legal inhabitants of the land, peace loving and living in harmony with nature) revered and depended on. Nature had to back the Broncos. And the 49'ers were a bunch of greedy, white, red- necks, land grabbing, Indian killing, destroying the land and waterways, mining for gold to satisfy their lust for wealth. The Seahawks are nature's free spirits, soaring high in the sky representing total freedom and liberation, hurting nobody(except an occasional fish,and notice, it's only fish, a lower life form). So, in this age of enlightenment, this is what nature ordained. There could be no other outcome. The pundits of Fairfield saw to that. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 4:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football Hey John, it sounds like a really good game. I'm remembering that back in the fall, Farmer's Almanac predicted a big storm for Feb 2. I just listened to Peyton Manning's post game interview and he seems like a humble guy. Might google for his chart (-: On Monday, January 20, 2014 1:50 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Emily, It was a good game. The 49ers played their hearts out. But the fans up there are just too loud and spirited to get a win in that stadium. Also, the Seahawks defense was very solid. Since my home team lost, I am now rooting for the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. Most of the football pundits are now favoring the Seahawks to win. But you can never be too sure with Peyton Manning as the QB for the Broncos.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom
Empty, really a great concise roadmap here that you write here. FFL-post-of- the- year thus far amongst all the athletic supporters flash-flooding this forum as place of high mind spirituality otherwise. Thanks. For Me the best sutras I got out of the TM-siddhis were the ones about the discernment/distinction o Bhuti a Purusha. That is what popped things for me and I am most grateful for. Om Jai Adi Shankara, -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: emptybill, thanks for your clarity here. This brings to my mind Maharishi's teaching that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness. Purusha Prakriti realization seems to be a GC experience to me whereas the experience of moksha as one's basic nature seems more like Unity. A friend is on a retreat where they are discussing three stages of Brahman: basic, refined and Wholeness or holiness. Mind boggling to me! On Sunday, January 19, 2014 4:35 PM, emptybill@... emptybill@... wrote: A popular view of Advaita Vedanta (sometimes an accusation) is that it is Maya-vada ... the doctrine that everything is mere Maya. This is a classical misrepresentation that began with Ramanuja (11th Century head of the Sri Vaishnava-s) and continues down to today. Probably one reason for the misunderstanding is that different teachers presented alternate explanations of the Brahma Sutras. In essence, they held contrary preconceptions. Another reason is that discussions about the nature of Maya became continuous in debates between Advaita scholars. This led to the belief that “Maya talk” was the core of Advaita. The reality is that Advaita is more accurately call Brahma-vada, the teaching about Brahman. It uses the principal Upanishads, the Brahma Sutras and the Bhagavad Gita as a threefold authoritative Vedic source. However, leading up to the 14th Century, the Yoga Sutras became an alternate source for understanding the path to realize Brahman. By the middle of the 14th-15th Century, this view so infiltrated Advaita Vedanta that the works of Shankaracharya Swami Vidyâranya (who wrote Pañchadâši and Jivanmuktiviveka) presumed that students of Advaita followed a yogic path to realize Brahman. The modern proponent of this view was Swami Vivekananda. MMY just continued that mode – which included the division of the Bhagavad Gita into three topical sections, a theme also found in Sri Aurobindo Ghose. Scholars now call this interpretation “Yogic Advaita” - an interpretation that is more about yoga and less about Advaita Vedanta. Perhaps more perplexing for those studying Advaita, the concept of “enlightenment” (so over-popularized) was borrowed from the Buddhists – and is neither Yogic nor Vedantic. The Yoga Sutras, in fact, do not even propose yoga as a goal but rather discuss the necessity for “vi-yoga” … separating, dis-uniting, dis-joining. Thus the question … “separating what from what”? In this case, separating the apparent con-fusion (fusing together) between awareness (purusha) and the field of experience (i.e. body, senses, mind). Contrary to this Yogic assumption of two orders of reality (purusha and prakriti), Shankara’s Vedanta teaches the inherent unity of Reality (Brahman). Rather than chitta-vritti-nirodha, nirvikalpa-samâdhi or Buddhist dhyana-samâpatti, Advaita points to the direct ascertainment of one’s own true nature. The purpose of such recognition is seeing directly that moksha (freedom) is already the inherent nature of human beings. It also recognizes that moksha is freedom from any experience, while realizing that like waves moving across the ocean, experience is itself nothing but Brahman.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Girish Varma's judicial remand extended
Who are the other players that shared out the empire? Seems there are not Indians but other than one on the Boards of the SBS Foundation and Trust. Seems there was a lot of cash moved in the direction of India in the last years of Maharishi. How much got away and generally to who? The Shankarcharya? Other family members? Are there trustworthy Indians in the larger TM movement anymore? http://globalpeaceproject.net/about-us/the-foundation/brahmananda-saraswati-foundatio-board-of-directors/ After the maharishi’s death in 2008, his vast empire of educational and other institutions in India and abroad was shared among various members of the family.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Best and Worst Car Values
[image: Inline image 1] 2014 Chevrolet SS (Holden) The 2014 Chevrolet SS is the first Chevrolet to take SS as a model name rather than a trim designation, and the first rear-drive Chevy sedan since the 1996 Impala SS. '2014 Chevrolet SS drive review' http://www.autoweek.com/http://www.autoweek.com/article/20131202/carreviews/131129853 'We obsessively covered the 2014 Detroit Auto Show' Autoblog: http://www.autoblog.com/http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/14/2014-detroit-auto-show-roundup/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0588 Car and Driver: http://www.caranddriver.com/2014-detroit-auto-show 'Ford cranks up '32 Ford body production' http://www.autoblog.com/http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/14/1932-ford-5-window-coupe-body-ford-component-sales-united-pacific-industries-official-sema/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0588 On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Best car values: Toyota, Honda, and vehicles from Subaru and Mazda did well overall. http://www.usatoday.com/consumer-reports-top-car-value/http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2013/12/18/consumer-reports-top-car-value-prius/4094501/ Worst car values: The Nissan Armada gets only 13 miles a gallon, has terrible scores on the reliability survey and costs $1.20 a mile to operate. http://www.usatoday.com/consumer-reports-worst-value/http://www.usatoday.com/story/driveon/2013/12/24/consumer-reports-worst-value-cars/4192281/
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: HP: Windows 7 is back
It all depends on what you mean by nerdy. A computer is too technical for most people. What is needed is a simple device like an old-fashioned radio. Back then the radio was a device the whole family could use - it had to be very simple: you turn it on or off with a switch; you change stations with a rotary dial; and there is a volume control knob (fancy TVs had a little hidden door for the advanced controls: tint and contrast). Most kids these days seem to be nerdy - it's the adults that are flat-earth bound. There are teachers at the local community college that can't even type, much less manage tools on a computer. One teacher I know actually believes that a desktop computer is powered by rodents inside running on a treadmill. And, it all depends on what you need to accomplish with a computer. Most people don't even need a computer because they don't have a task to accomplish. My cousin got a desktop computer at Walmart and I helped him set it up at his place. So, I asked what he needed it for and he said to use Facebook to keep in touch with his grand daughter, Chelsea, over in Dallas. [image: Inline image 1] My cousin the nerd So, we set him set up with a Facebook account and a few friends and we snapped a photo of him and posted it along with a message or two. I showed him the web cam and how to video conference with the free Yahoo Messenger; we showed him the free Yahoo email account; and set his home page to Yahoo. I even showed him how to set up a database for his baseball card collection using Google Sheets. I explained that he was about to get into muti-media but I'm not sure he understood - he said he was going to buy a digital camera down at Best Buy. Later, I said to Rita there's probably no way he was going to be able to do Facebook since he spends all day out fishing in the lake and the other time watching football and golf on TV. On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I occasionally have to try to solve Windows problems that are far more difficult to fix than Linux. Windows is no longer so user friendly. In some cases you are just SOL. Engineers who build software for Windows these days aren't very good anymore. Apparently just cheap. You might like to try Elementary OS which is a Linux distro. And no you don't have to pay just to try it: http://elementaryos.org/ On 01/19/2014 10:46 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: I used Ubuntu for a while, but I think for block heads like myself, it (like any Linux distro) might still be a bit too nerdy ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... noozguru@... wrote: That's why I use Ubuntu Studio. :-P On 01/19/2014 08:01 AM, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: Just got this email from HP: http://alex.natel.net/misc/win-7-is-back.jpg People have been bitching about Win 8 since it was in beta, and hopefully this loud corporate message from HP will get through to the idiots at MSFT. People with real computers want a proper desktop environment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Girish Varma's judicial remand extended
Hagelin, Fagin and Wynn are all on the board and are listed as living in Farifield, why don't you ask them? On Mon, 1/20/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Girish Varma's judicial remand extended To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 20, 2014, 1:56 PM Who are the other players that shared out the empire? Seems there are not Indians but other than one on the Boards of the SBS Foundation and Trust. Seems there was a lot of cash moved in the direction of India in the last years of Maharishi. How much got away and generally to who? The Shankarcharya? Other family members? Are there trustworthy Indians in the larger TM movement anymore? http://globalpeaceproject.net/about-us/the-foundation/brahmananda-saraswati-foundatio-board-of-directors/ After the maharishi’s death in 2008, his vast empire of educational and other institutions in India and abroad was shared among various members of the family.
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Postcharismatic Fate of New Religious Movements.
Weber's definition of charismatic is good for purpose of discussion generally and also for extending out to include the uncomfortable person who is skeptically asking in unknowing disbelief, “what exactly's a saint?” I feel that granting the spiritual consideration of charisma makes the whole consideration of spirituality and charismatic leadership much more interesting and also makes for a more interesting sense of history too if people will grant for sake of discussion that charismatic saints do happen. Weber's definition then begins to allow for further scholarly consideration of spirituality and of even the saintly, if people will grant it rather than just being in a position of contending and denying it. -Buck Turq, separating the NP-Disordered as a consideration is just a scale with a range and distribution of consideration around the real spiritual charismatic. The Dis-ordered may just indicate bad nurture of upbringing or some bad nature of dis-ease of genetic material otherwise and both may be independent of a charismatic life of saintly-hood as a trans-formative affective energy field in time. Bad nurture or bad nature may travel with charisma evidently as part of the story. That is only human? The OEM of the human form does come with ego included as part of the factory package on earth. That evidently can give us all a lot to talk about and I appreciate your journalistic pursuit of the subject here. -Buck in the Dome Weber, in an oft quoted passage, defined charisma as a certain quality of an individual personality, by virtue of which [s/]he is set apart from ordinary [people] and treated as endowed with supernatural, superhuman, or at least specifically exceptional powers or qualities. These are such as are not accessible to the ordinary person, but are regarded as of divine origin or as exemplary, and on the basis of them the individual concerned is treated as a leader. 1 Turq writes: I would suggest -- and in fact have, many times -- that a synonym for charisma in many cases is Narcissistic Personality Disorder. There is a weakness in many people and their basic *lack* of self confidence and self awareness that makes them easy prey for those who have a surfeit of it. They encounter someone who is so taken with themselves that they can literally think of nothing and no one else and they project a bunch of admirable qualities onto a disorder that is largely devoid of them. Think about the arrival on FFL of someone who is as classic an example of NPD as has ever existed. Some people saw the endless But enough talking about me...let's talk about me drivel as what it was and lost interest, and some looked at the same drivel and somehow projected greatness onto it. To this day, the most dismaying thing about my entire experience at FFL has been the fact that many people here were completely *unable* to recognize two classic psychopaths -- Ravi and Robin -- when they encountered them. Instead they admired them, became their groupies, and in one case actually created a small cult following around them. That is worrisome, especially in a group of people who claim to be sophisticated spiritual seekers who've been on the path for 20-30 years. To have spent that much time theoretically studying the psychology of enlightenment without being able to tell it from the psychology of psychopathology is shocking. O
Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom
Buck: For Me the best sutras I got out of the TM-siddhis were the ones about the discernment/distinction o Bhuti a Purusha. For most TMers, the esoteric teachings are the most important aspects of their practice - the knowledge and the mechanics of the Sri Vidya and the Kashmere Trika theory. These are the ideas most closely associated with MMY and his TM practice. This is not surprising considering that MMY's master, SBS, was a Sri Vidya adherent and that MMY himself visited Kashmere to sit with the Swami Laksmanjoo. Most TMer seem to be more interested in the tantras than in reading about the mayavada in the Brahma Sutras. And why? Because the Advaita mayavada does not lend itself easily to the common tasks of everyday householders. Kashmere Saivism contends that there is only one reality, but it has two aspects; therefore the manifestation is real. This is based on the argument that the effect cannot be different from its cause. The world of matter is only another form of consciousness. Sri Vidya is based on the Kashmir Shaivism's absolute idealist monism (abhedha, non dualism) where Cit - consciousness - is the one reality and matter is not separated from consciousness, but is identical to it. On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:39 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Empty, really a great concise roadmap here that you write here. FFL-post-of- the- year thus far amongst all the athletic supporters flash-flooding this forum as place of high mind spirituality otherwise. Thanks. For Me the best sutras I got out of the TM-siddhis were the ones about the discernment/distinction o Bhuti a Purusha. That is what popped things for me and I am most grateful for. Om Jai Adi Shankara, -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: emptybill, thanks for your clarity here. This brings to my mind Maharishi's teaching that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness. Purusha Prakriti realization seems to be a GC experience to me whereas the experience of moksha as one's basic nature seems more like Unity. A friend is on a retreat where they are discussing three stages of Brahman: basic, refined and Wholeness or holiness. Mind boggling to me! On Sunday, January 19, 2014 4:35 PM, emptybill@... emptybill@... wrote: A popular view of Advaita Vedanta (sometimes an accusation) is that it is Maya-vada ... the doctrine that everything is mere Maya. This is a classical misrepresentation that began with Ramanuja (11th Century head of the Sri Vaishnava-s) and continues down to today. Probably one reason for the misunderstanding is that different teachers presented alternate explanations of the Brahma Sutras. In essence, they held contrary preconceptions. Another reason is that discussions about the nature of Maya became continuous in debates between Advaita scholars. This led to the belief that “Maya talk” was the core of Advaita. The reality is that Advaita is more accurately call Brahma-vada, the teaching about Brahman. It uses the principal Upanishads, the Brahma Sutras and the Bhagavad Gita as a threefold authoritative Vedic source. However, leading up to the 14th Century, the Yoga Sutras became an alternate source for understanding the *path* to realize Brahman. By the middle of the 14th-15th Century, this view so infiltrated Advaita Vedanta that the works of Shankaracharya Swami Vidyâranya (who wrote Pañchadâši and Jivanmuktiviveka) presumed that students of Advaita followed a yogic path to realize Brahman. The modern proponent of this view was Swami Vivekananda. MMY just continued that mode – which included the division of the Bhagavad Gita into three topical sections, a theme also found in Sri Aurobindo Ghose. Scholars now call this interpretation “Yogic Advaita” - an interpretation that is more about yoga and less about Advaita Vedanta. Perhaps more perplexing for those studying Advaita, the concept of “enlightenment” (so over-popularized) was borrowed from the Buddhists – and is neither Yogic nor Vedantic. The Yoga Sutras, in fact, do not even propose yoga as a goal but rather discuss the necessity for “vi-yoga” … separating, dis-uniting, dis-joining. Thus the question … “separating *what* from *what*”? In this case, separating the apparent con-fusion (fusing together) between awareness (purusha) and the field of experience (i.e. body, senses, mind). Contrary to this Yogic assumption of two orders of reality (purusha and prakriti), Shankara’s Vedanta teaches the inherent unity of Reality (Brahman). Rather than chitta-vritti-nirodha, nirvikalpa-samâdhi or Buddhist dhyana-samâpatti, Advaita points to the direct ascertainment of one’s own true nature. The purpose of such recognition is seeing directly that moksha (freedom) is *already* the inherent nature of human beings. It also recognizes that moksha is freedom from *any* experience, while realizing that like waves moving across the ocean,
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: HP: Windows 7 is back
Richard, the other day I went to my Facebook home page and there were photos that a friend of mine had posted. Photos of a naked yoga teacher! How were they on my home page?! And once my Mom told me that she liked the MUM photo I had on my home page. But I didn't put it there! I don't understand how Facebook works. It seems like a spider web and complicated to learn. I ask about my home page because I have young relatives who are active on FB and I don't know if they see my home page. And I wouldn't want my Mom to have heart palpitations from naked yoga photos! On Monday, January 20, 2014 8:35 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: It all depends on what you mean by nerdy. A computer is too technical for most people. What is needed is a simple device like an old-fashioned radio. Back then the radio was a device the whole family could use - it had to be very simple: you turn it on or off with a switch; you change stations with a rotary dial; and there is a volume control knob (fancy TVs had a little hidden door for the advanced controls: tint and contrast). Most kids these days seem to be nerdy - it's the adults that are flat-earth bound. There are teachers at the local community college that can't even type, much less manage tools on a computer. One teacher I know actually believes that a desktop computer is powered by rodents inside running on a treadmill. And, it all depends on what you need to accomplish with a computer. Most people don't even need a computer because they don't have a task to accomplish. My cousin got a desktop computer at Walmart and I helped him set it up at his place. So, I asked what he needed it for and he said to use Facebook to keep in touch with his grand daughter, Chelsea, over in Dallas. My cousin the nerd So, we set him set up with a Facebook account and a few friends and we snapped a photo of him and posted it along with a message or two. I showed him the web cam and how to video conference with the free Yahoo Messenger; we showed him the free Yahoo email account; and set his home page to Yahoo. I even showed him how to set up a database for his baseball card collection using Google Sheets. I explained that he was about to get into muti-media but I'm not sure he understood - he said he was going to buy a digital camera down at Best Buy. Later, I said to Rita there's probably no way he was going to be able to do Facebook since he spends all day out fishing in the lake and the other time watching football and golf on TV. On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I occasionally have to try to solve Windows problems that are far more difficult to fix than Linux. Windows is no longer so user friendly. In some cases you are just SOL. Engineers who build software for Windows these days aren't very good anymore. Apparently just cheap. You might like to try Elementary OS which is a Linux distro. And no you don't have to pay just to try it: http://elementaryos.org/ On 01/19/2014 10:46 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote: I used Ubuntu for a while, but I think for block heads like myself, it (like any Linux distro) might still be a bit too nerdy ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote: That's why I use Ubuntu Studio. :-P On 01/19/2014 08:01 AM, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote: Just got this email from HP: http://alex.natel.net/misc/win-7-is-back.jpg People have been bitching about Win 8 since it was in beta, and hopefully this loud corporate message from HP will get through to the idiots at MSFT. People with real computers want a proper desktop environment.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
Mike, Kimbaugh theorem as in Rush Limbaugh?! Isn't he an ultra conservative radio host? Wouldn't he be saying that it was evil forces that allowed Patriots and capitalists to be defeated?! On Monday, January 20, 2014 7:23 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com wrote: The outcome or this weekend's games had to be this way, according to the Limbaugh theorem. You see, the Patriots represent a bunch of greedy, white, land grabbing, slave owning, racist, sexist ,homophobes playing the Brancos, wild spirited horses that the Native Americans(natural and legal inhabitants of the land, peace loving and living in harmony with nature) revered and depended on. Nature had to back the Broncos. And the 49'ers were a bunch of greedy, white, red- necks, land grabbing, Indian killing, destroying the land and waterways, mining for gold to satisfy their lust for wealth. The Seahawks are nature's free spirits, soaring high in the sky representing total freedom and liberation, hurting nobody(except an occasional fish,and notice, it's only fish, a lower life form). So, in this age of enlightenment, this is what nature ordained. There could be no other outcome. The pundits of Fairfield saw to that. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 4:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football Hey John, it sounds like a really good game. I'm remembering that back in the fall, Farmer's Almanac predicted a big storm for Feb 2. I just listened to Peyton Manning's post game interview and he seems like a humble guy. Might google for his chart (-: On Monday, January 20, 2014 1:50 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Emily, It was a good game. The 49ers played their hearts out. But the fans up there are just too loud and spirited to get a win in that stadium. Also, the Seahawks defense was very solid. Since my home team lost, I am now rooting for the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. Most of the football pundits are now favoring the Seahawks to win. But you can never be too sure with Peyton Manning as the QB for the Broncos.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom
Buck, that's one of my favorites too. Share in Bhagambrini... On Monday, January 20, 2014 7:39 AM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote: Empty, really a great concise roadmap here that you write here. FFL-post-of- the- year thus far amongst all the athletic supporters flash-flooding this forum as place of high mind spirituality otherwise. Thanks. For Me the best sutras I got out of the TM-siddhis were the ones about the discernment/distinction o Bhuti a Purusha. That is what popped things for me and I am most grateful for. Om Jai Adi Shankara, -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: emptybill, thanks for your clarity here. This brings to my mind Maharishi's teaching that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness. Purusha Prakriti realization seems to be a GC experience to me whereas the experience of moksha as one's basic nature seems more like Unity. A friend is on a retreat where they are discussing three stages of Brahman: basic, refined and Wholeness or holiness. Mind boggling to me! On Sunday, January 19, 2014 4:35 PM, emptybill@... emptybill@... wrote: A popular view of Advaita Vedanta (sometimes an accusation) is that it is Maya-vada ... the doctrine that everything is mere Maya. This is a classical misrepresentation that began with Ramanuja (11th Century head of the Sri Vaishnava-s) and continues down to today. Probably one reason for the misunderstanding is that different teachers presented alternate explanations of the Brahma Sutras. In essence, they held contrary preconceptions. Another reason is that discussions about the nature of Maya became continuous in debates between Advaita scholars. This led to the belief that “Maya talk” was the core of Advaita. The reality is that Advaita is more accurately call Brahma-vada, the teaching about Brahman. It uses the principal Upanishads, the Brahma Sutras and the Bhagavad Gita as a threefold authoritative Vedic source. However, leading up to the 14th Century, the Yoga Sutras became an alternate source for understanding the path to realize Brahman. By the middle of the 14th-15th Century, this view so infiltrated Advaita Vedanta that the works of Shankaracharya Swami Vidyâranya (who wrote Pañchadâši and Jivanmuktiviveka) presumed that students of Advaita followed a yogic path to realize Brahman. The modern proponent of this view was Swami Vivekananda. MMY just continued that mode – which included the division of the Bhagavad Gita into three topical sections, a theme also found in Sri Aurobindo Ghose. Scholars now call this interpretation “Yogic Advaita” - an interpretation that is more about yoga and less about Advaita Vedanta. Perhaps more perplexing for those studying Advaita, the concept of “enlightenment” (so over-popularized) was borrowed from the Buddhists – and is neither Yogic nor Vedantic. The Yoga Sutras, in fact, do not even propose yoga as a goal but rather discuss the necessity for “vi-yoga” … separating, dis-uniting, dis-joining. Thus the question … “separating what from what”? In this case, separating the apparent con-fusion (fusing together) between awareness (purusha) and the field of experience (i.e. body, senses, mind). Contrary to this Yogic assumption of two orders of reality (purusha and prakriti), Shankara’s Vedanta teaches the inherent unity of Reality (Brahman). Rather than chitta-vritti-nirodha, nirvikalpa-samâdhi or Buddhist dhyana-samâpatti, Advaita points to the direct ascertainment of one’s own true nature. The purpose of such recognition is seeing directly that moksha (freedom) is already the inherent nature of human beings. It also recognizes that moksha is freedom from any experience, while realizing that like waves moving across the ocean, experience is itself nothing but Brahman.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom
A popular view of Advaita Vedanta (sometimes an accusation) is that it is Maya-vada... Maybe you lost them, but you have to begin with a definition of the term maya - which I already posted: maya is neither real nor unreal, nor both, nor neither. Maya is not an illusion or something that is not real, because even an illusion is presented to us. Maya is actualy a superimposition on the real. So, maya is not real but not unreal. It's like a zen koan: Daibai asked Baso: `What is Buddha?' Baso said: `This mind is Buddha.' Mumon's Comment: If anyone wholly understands this, he is wearing Buddha's clothing, he is eating Buddha's food, he is speaking Buddha's words, he is behaving as Buddha, he is Buddha. This anecdote, however, has given many pupil the sickness of formality. If one truly understands, he will wash out his mouth for three days after saying the word Buddha, and he will close his ears and flee after hearing `This mind is Buddha.' Under blue sky, in bright sunlight, One need not search around. Asking what Buddha is Is like hiding loot in one's pocket and declaring oneself innocent. This Mind is Buddha: http://www.ibiblio.org/zen/gateless-gate/30.html On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 4:35 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: A popular view of Advaita Vedanta (sometimes an accusation) is that it is Maya-vada ... the doctrine that everything is mere Maya. This is a classical misrepresentation that began with Ramanuja (11th Century head of the Sri Vaishnava-s) and continues down to today. Probably one reason for the misunderstanding is that different teachers presented alternate explanations of the Brahma Sutras. In essence, they held contrary preconceptions. Another reason is that discussions about the nature of Maya became continuous in debates between Advaita scholars. This led to the belief that “Maya talk” was the core of Advaita. The reality is that Advaita is more accurately call Brahma-vada, the teaching about Brahman. It uses the principal Upanishads, the Brahma Sutras and the Bhagavad Gita as a threefold authoritative Vedic source. However, leading up to the 14th Century, the Yoga Sutras became an alternate source for understanding the *path* to realize Brahman. By the middle of the 14th-15th Century, this view so infiltrated Advaita Vedanta that the works of Shankaracharya Swami Vidyâranya (who wrote Pañchadâši and Jivanmuktiviveka) presumed that students of Advaita followed a yogic path to realize Brahman. The modern proponent of this view was Swami Vivekananda. MMY just continued that mode – which included the division of the Bhagavad Gita into three topical sections, a theme also found in Sri Aurobindo Ghose. Scholars now call this interpretation “Yogic Advaita” - an interpretation that is more about yoga and less about Advaita Vedanta. Perhaps more perplexing for those studying Advaita, the concept of “enlightenment” (so over-popularized) was borrowed from the Buddhists – and is neither Yogic nor Vedantic. The Yoga Sutras, in fact, do not even propose yoga as a goal but rather discuss the necessity for “vi-yoga” … separating, dis-uniting, dis-joining. Thus the question … “separating *what* from *what*”? In this case, separating the apparent con-fusion (fusing together) between awareness (purusha) and the field of experience (i.e. body, senses, mind). Contrary to this Yogic assumption of two orders of reality (purusha and prakriti), Shankara’s Vedanta teaches the inherent unity of Reality (Brahman). Rather than chitta-vritti-nirodha, nirvikalpa-samâdhi or Buddhist dhyana-samâpatti, Advaita points to the direct ascertainment of one’s own true nature. The purpose of such recognition is seeing directly that moksha (freedom) is *already* the inherent nature of human beings. It also recognizes that moksha is freedom from *any* experience, while realizing that like waves moving across the ocean, experience is itself nothing but Brahman.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom
Richard, I've heard that when tamas guna dominates, maya is a covering over reality; when rajo guna dominates, maya is a veil; but when sat guna dominates, maya is actually a means to ultimate reality. What do you think? On Monday, January 20, 2014 9:40 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: A popular view of Advaita Vedanta (sometimes an accusation) is that it is Maya-vada... Maybe you lost them, but you have to begin with a definition of the term maya - which I already posted: maya is neither real nor unreal, nor both, nor neither. Maya is not an illusion or something that is not real, because even an illusion is presented to us. Maya is actualy a superimposition on the real. So, maya is not real but not unreal. It's like a zen koan: Daibai asked Baso: `What is Buddha?' Baso said: `This mind is Buddha.' Mumon's Comment: If anyone wholly understands this, he is wearing Buddha's clothing, he is eating Buddha's food, he is speaking Buddha's words, he is behaving as Buddha, he is Buddha. This anecdote, however, has given many pupil the sickness of formality. If one truly understands, he will wash out his mouth for three days after saying the word Buddha, and he will close his ears and flee after hearing `This mind is Buddha.' Under blue sky, in bright sunlight, One need not search around. Asking what Buddha is Is like hiding loot in one's pocket and declaring oneself innocent. This Mind is Buddha: http://www.ibiblio.org/zen/gateless-gate/30.html On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 4:35 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: A popular view of Advaita Vedanta (sometimes an accusation) is that it is Maya-vada ... the doctrine that everything is mere Maya. This is a classical misrepresentation that began with Ramanuja (11th Century head of the Sri Vaishnava-s) and continues down to today. Probably one reason for the misunderstanding is that different teachers presented alternate explanations of the Brahma Sutras. In essence, they held contrary preconceptions. Another reason is that discussions about the nature of Maya became continuous in debates between Advaita scholars. This led to the belief that “Maya talk” was the core of Advaita. The reality is that Advaita is more accurately call Brahma-vada, the teaching about Brahman. It uses the principal Upanishads, the Brahma Sutras and the Bhagavad Gita as a threefold authoritative Vedic source. However, leading up to the 14th Century, the Yoga Sutras became an alternate source for understanding the path to realize Brahman. By the middle of the 14th-15th Century, this view so infiltrated Advaita Vedanta that the works of Shankaracharya Swami Vidyâranya (who wrote Pañchadâši and Jivanmuktiviveka) presumed that students of Advaita followed a yogic path to realize Brahman. The modern proponent of this view was Swami Vivekananda. MMY just continued that mode – which included the division of the Bhagavad Gita into three topical sections, a theme also found in Sri Aurobindo Ghose. Scholars now call this interpretation “Yogic Advaita” - an interpretation that is more about yoga and less about Advaita Vedanta. Perhaps more perplexing for those studying Advaita, the concept of “enlightenment” (so over-popularized) was borrowed from the Buddhists – and is neither Yogic nor Vedantic. The Yoga Sutras, in fact, do not even propose yoga as a goal but rather discuss the necessity for “vi-yoga” … separating, dis-uniting, dis-joining. Thus the question … “separating what from what”? In this case, separating the apparent con-fusion (fusing together) between awareness (purusha) and the field of experience (i.e. body, senses, mind). Contrary to this Yogic assumption of two orders of reality (purusha and prakriti), Shankara’s Vedanta teaches the inherent unity of Reality (Brahman). Rather than chitta-vritti-nirodha, nirvikalpa-samâdhi or Buddhist dhyana-samâpatti, Advaita points to the direct ascertainment of one’s own true nature. The purpose of such recognition is seeing directly that moksha (freedom) is already the inherent nature of human beings. It also recognizes that moksha is freedom from any experience, while realizing that like waves moving across the ocean, experience is itself nothing but Brahman.
[FairfieldLife] RE: 'Allah' Row in Malaysia
Re Islam is more tolerant than what is being practiced by some Muslim sects: Have you actually read the Koran? Take a look at this conference footage from Sam Harris's site. As Harris says: The organizers of this conference believe (with good reason) that “extremist” views are not rare among Muslims, even in the West. And they consider the media’s denial of this fact to be a symptom of… Islamophobia. The serpent of obscurantism has finally begun to devour its own tail. Apparently, it is a sign of racism to imagine that only a tiny minority of Muslims could actually condone the subjugation of women and the murder of apostates. How dare you call us “extremists” when we represent so many? We are not extreme. This is Islam. They have a point. And it is time for secular liberals and (truly) moderate Muslims to stop denying it. http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/islam-or-islamophobia2 http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/islam-or-islamophobia2
Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom
Share: This brings to my mind Maharishi's teaching that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness... Things and events - phenomena - are not real, yet not unreal either. They are like an illusion in that they are not exactly as they appear to be, yet they are real in the sense that they are presented to us as illusion. So, it would not be correct to say that phenomena are unreal; they are simply dream-like because phenomena can't be known or experienced without an intermediary something - we call it 'consciousness'. We do not experience phenomenon directly, but through the lens of the senses, which change the objects of perception. Dreams are real because they are dreams. Something that is unreal is something that never existed, a figment of the imagination for example. But quite often people see with double vision simply because they have a mote in their eye, or they see the horns of a hare when in reality, there are no horns on a rabbit. Duality is only an appearance; non-duality is the real truth. The object exists as an object for the knowing subject; but it does not exist outside of consciousness because the distinction of subject and object is within consciousness (GK IV 25-27). Work cited: 'Dispelling Illusion' Gaudapada's Alatasanti by Douglas A. Fox State University of New York Press, 1993 Read more: 'Gaudapada' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaudapada On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: emptybill, thanks for your clarity here. This brings to my mind Maharishi's teaching that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness. Purusha Prakriti realization seems to be a GC experience to me whereas the experience of moksha as one's basic nature seems more like Unity. A friend is on a retreat where they are discussing three stages of Brahman: basic, refined and Wholeness or holiness. Mind boggling to me! On Sunday, January 19, 2014 4:35 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: A popular view of Advaita Vedanta (sometimes an accusation) is that it is Maya-vada ... the doctrine that everything is mere Maya. This is a classical misrepresentation that began with Ramanuja (11th Century head of the Sri Vaishnava-s) and continues down to today. Probably one reason for the misunderstanding is that different teachers presented alternate explanations of the Brahma Sutras. In essence, they held contrary preconceptions. Another reason is that discussions about the nature of Maya became continuous in debates between Advaita scholars. This led to the belief that “Maya talk” was the core of Advaita. The reality is that Advaita is more accurately call Brahma-vada, the teaching about Brahman. It uses the principal Upanishads, the Brahma Sutras and the Bhagavad Gita as a threefold authoritative Vedic source. However, leading up to the 14th Century, the Yoga Sutras became an alternate source for understanding the *path* to realize Brahman. By the middle of the 14th-15th Century, this view so infiltrated Advaita Vedanta that the works of Shankaracharya Swami Vidyâranya (who wrote Pañchadâši and Jivanmuktiviveka) presumed that students of Advaita followed a yogic path to realize Brahman. The modern proponent of this view was Swami Vivekananda. MMY just continued that mode – which included the division of the Bhagavad Gita into three topical sections, a theme also found in Sri Aurobindo Ghose. Scholars now call this interpretation “Yogic Advaita” - an interpretation that is more about yoga and less about Advaita Vedanta. Perhaps more perplexing for those studying Advaita, the concept of “enlightenment” (so over-popularized) was borrowed from the Buddhists – and is neither Yogic nor Vedantic. The Yoga Sutras, in fact, do not even propose yoga as a goal but rather discuss the necessity for “vi-yoga” … separating, dis-uniting, dis-joining. Thus the question … “separating *what* from *what*”? In this case, separating the apparent con-fusion (fusing together) between awareness (purusha) and the field of experience (i.e. body, senses, mind). Contrary to this Yogic assumption of two orders of reality (purusha and prakriti), Shankara’s Vedanta teaches the inherent unity of Reality (Brahman). Rather than chitta-vritti-nirodha, nirvikalpa-samâdhi or Buddhist dhyana-samâpatti, Advaita points to the direct ascertainment of one’s own true nature. The purpose of such recognition is seeing directly that moksha (freedom) is *already* the inherent nature of human beings. It also recognizes that moksha is freedom from *any* experience, while realizing that like waves moving across the ocean, experience is itself nothing but Brahman.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Signposts Of Enlightenment
Seraph, I used to think that there are infallible signs of enlightenment. Now I think there aren't any! Especially when considering the inner state of another. I just go by resonance, meaning, I listen to the teachers whose words resonate with my own experience. On Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:18 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Is it not possible that *the* infallible sign of being enlightened is that you don't seek followers or power? I'm sure there have been many individuals over the centuries who have had that awakening experience and at that same moment realised that their insight would be completely misunderstood by the masses. It's striking that Guru Dev had to be tricked into taking up his position as Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math. It reminds me of Plato's thinking in The Republic. His philosophers (wisdom-lovers) would have to be persuaded against their wishes to become leaders of the community by appealing to their sense of duty. True philosophers would want to spend their time in contemplation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jobs That Suck
Jobs That Suck There are probably lots of jobs out there that suck, really suck. Like, cleaning out chicken coops in the hot summer; or laying hot black tar onto a rooftop of a commercial building; or jobs where you had to put up with jerks at work and a fat, bald headed guy that smokes a cigar. Rita used to be a Cad Drafter for Gibson Guitar in Long Beach. But, you know what they say: You don't have to like your boss, just do what he says. One of the first jobs I had after college in 1966 was as a graphic designer at Pacific Mutual Life in Newport Beach - the first company west of the Mississippi River to use the brand new technology called Univac I. At that time, the art department used a drafting table, T-square and a VariTyper for type setting. It would be years before I got my first desk-top computer. But, I used to watch the tapes spin in the computer room. At the time, I was living in Venice Beach at 405 Howland Canal. One spring day I decided to quit working at the insurance company because the job sucked and I had a real bad case of spring-fever. So, on a Friday I got my pay check and went home - and never went back. Didn't say anything to anyone, just didn't come back, never called. Just like that - sweet! They probably wondered what happened to me. Go figure. [image: Inline image 1] In the basement of Pacific Life with the printers 1965. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: One time I interviewed for a job publishing menus for restaurants around town using Microsoft Word. Rita had a temp desktop publishing job several years ago. She was doing the newsletters and magazines for twenty small suburban enclaves around San Antonio. The company, 'Neighborhood News', had a PC with Microsoft Publisher on it. Lame! We both learned how to use Quark Xpress in graphics school. Go figure. So, I told my grandson to check this out: [image: Inline image 1] Bay College: 1 W Campbell Avenue, Campbell, CA http://www.baycollegeca.org/index.php?curpage=deg_digitalarts NewTek ignited the desktop video revolution, and television production was never the same... Newtek: 5131 Beckwith Blvd. San Antonio, TX 78249 http://www.newtek.com/company/careers.html If you plan on going to an technology interview soon, here are some tips: 3. Technology. Take a look at the kind of desktops, mobile technology and video/projection equipment being used around the office. If it all appears cutting-edge, that can indicate the firm values up-to-date technology. Read more: 7 Critical Observations to Make While Waiting to Interview: http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/interviewhttp://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/outside-voices-careers/2013/10/22/7-critical-observations-to-make-while-waiting-to-interview On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: The video game market is flooded and not doing so well. There is A LOT of outsourcing to third world countries of video game production. I kinda know a little bit about that industry. ;-) BTW, if your grandson wants to be games designer then he better get deeply involved in the arts. I've known some of the best and most famous ones and they didn't have a computer science background. One was much more an artist than anything else. On 10/21/2013 07:48 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: I don't know what they expect people to do for a living these days. It looks like there may be more jobs available in the medical field (after the current down turn is over). It's not complicated - there will be more and more older people for young people to take care of in the future. So, I helped put my grandaughter through nursing school - an RN program - two years. Before she graduated, she was offered a job in San Diego with a sign-on bonus! My grandson wants to be a computer game designer - he is learning programming at a community college in Sonoma. According to the Entertainment Software Association, which represents American video game companies, Texas is home to 24 colleges and universities that offer video-game-related courses and programs. More are on the way, including a University of Texas at Austin post-baccalaureate program that will enroll students in 2014. 'Texas Incentives Lure Video Game Companies' http://www.texastribune.org/http://www.texastribune.org/2013/10/04/texas-incentives-lure-video-game-companies/ On 10/20/2013 11:16 AM, Bhairitu wrote: I did desktop publishing as a temp in 1980 for a company that did those real estate magazines. Of course there was no graphics, just entering listing on paper into the computer. The gig lasted only a few days as they just needed some extra temps for a while who were good at typing and maybe some data entry experience (got that at the EDS temp gig). EDS wanted me back but I wound up working as a temp at title insurance company. Then my old band wanted me back so that was the end of temp
Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom
Richard, this brings to mind one of my favorite passages from Maharishi's SBAL: ...identification is not bondage. What is bondage is inability to maintain Being along with identification while indulging in experience and activity. pg 238 On Monday, January 20, 2014 9:50 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Share: This brings to my mind Maharishi's teaching that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness... Things and events - phenomena - are not real, yet not unreal either. They are like an illusion in that they are not exactly as they appear to be, yet they are real in the sense that they are presented to us as illusion. So, it would not be correct to say that phenomena are unreal; they are simply dream-like because phenomena can't be known or experienced without an intermediary something - we call it 'consciousness'. We do not experience phenomenon directly, but through the lens of the senses, which change the objects of perception. Dreams are real because they are dreams. Something that is unreal is something that never existed, a figment of the imagination for example. But quite often people see with double vision simply because they have a mote in their eye, or they see the horns of a hare when in reality, there are no horns on a rabbit. Duality is only an appearance; non-duality is the real truth. The object exists as an object for the knowing subject; but it does not exist outside of consciousness because the distinction of subject and object is within consciousness (GK IV 25-27). Work cited: 'Dispelling Illusion' Gaudapada's Alatasanti by Douglas A. Fox State University of New York Press, 1993 Read more: 'Gaudapada' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaudapada On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com wrote: emptybill, thanks for your clarity here. This brings to my mind Maharishi's teaching that knowledge is different in different states of consciousness. Purusha Prakriti realization seems to be a GC experience to me whereas the experience of moksha as one's basic nature seems more like Unity. A friend is on a retreat where they are discussing three stages of Brahman: basic, refined and Wholeness or holiness. Mind boggling to me! On Sunday, January 19, 2014 4:35 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote: A popular view of Advaita Vedanta (sometimes an accusation) is that it is Maya-vada ... the doctrine that everything is mere Maya. This is a classical misrepresentation that began with Ramanuja (11th Century head of the Sri Vaishnava-s) and continues down to today. Probably one reason for the misunderstanding is that different teachers presented alternate explanations of the Brahma Sutras. In essence, they held contrary preconceptions. Another reason is that discussions about the nature of Maya became continuous in debates between Advaita scholars. This led to the belief that “Maya talk” was the core of Advaita. The reality is that Advaita is more accurately call Brahma-vada, the teaching about Brahman. It uses the principal Upanishads, the Brahma Sutras and the Bhagavad Gita as a threefold authoritative Vedic source. However, leading up to the 14th Century, the Yoga Sutras became an alternate source for understanding the path to realize Brahman. By the middle of the 14th-15th Century, this view so infiltrated Advaita Vedanta that the works of Shankaracharya Swami Vidyâranya (who wrote Pañchadâši and Jivanmuktiviveka) presumed that students of Advaita followed a yogic path to realize Brahman. The modern proponent of this view was Swami Vivekananda. MMY just continued that mode – which included the division of the Bhagavad Gita into three topical sections, a theme also found in Sri Aurobindo Ghose. Scholars now call this interpretation “Yogic Advaita” - an interpretation that is more about yoga and less about Advaita Vedanta. Perhaps more perplexing for those studying Advaita, the concept of “enlightenment” (so over-popularized) was borrowed from the Buddhists – and is neither Yogic nor Vedantic. The Yoga Sutras, in fact, do not even propose yoga as a goal but rather discuss the necessity for “vi-yoga” … separating, dis-uniting, dis-joining. Thus the question … “separating what from what”? In this case, separating the apparent con-fusion (fusing together) between awareness (purusha) and the field of experience (i.e. body, senses, mind). Contrary to this Yogic assumption of two orders of reality (purusha and prakriti), Shankara’s Vedanta teaches the inherent unity of Reality (Brahman). Rather than chitta-vritti-nirodha, nirvikalpa-samâdhi or Buddhist dhyana-samâpatti, Advaita points to the direct ascertainment of one’s own true nature. The purpose of such recognition is seeing directly that moksha (freedom) is already the inherent nature of human beings. It also recognizes that moksha is freedom from any experience, while realizing that like waves moving
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jobs That Suck
Great photo, Richard, thanks for sharing. I couldn't find my high school grad pic! On Monday, January 20, 2014 9:57 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Jobs That Suck There are probably lots of jobs out there that suck, really suck. Like, cleaning out chicken coops in the hot summer; or laying hot black tar onto a rooftop of a commercial building; or jobs where you had to put up with jerks at work and a fat, bald headed guy that smokes a cigar. Rita used to be a Cad Drafter for Gibson Guitar in Long Beach. But, you know what they say: You don't have to like your boss, just do what he says. One of the first jobs I had after college in 1966 was as a graphic designer at Pacific Mutual Life in Newport Beach - the first company west of the Mississippi River to use the brand new technology called Univac I. At that time, the art department used a drafting table, T-square and a VariTyper for type setting. It would be years before I got my first desk-top computer. But, I used to watch the tapes spin in the computer room. At the time, I was living in Venice Beach at 405 Howland Canal. One spring day I decided to quit working at the insurance company because the job sucked and I had a real bad case of spring-fever. So, on a Friday I got my pay check and went home - and never went back. Didn't say anything to anyone, just didn't come back, never called. Just like that - sweet! They probably wondered what happened to me. Go figure. In the basement of Pacific Life with the printers 1965. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: One time I interviewed for a job publishing menus for restaurants around town using Microsoft Word. Rita had a temp desktop publishing job several years ago. She was doing the newsletters and magazines for twenty small suburban enclaves around San Antonio. The company, 'Neighborhood News', had a PC with Microsoft Publisher on it. Lame! We both learned how to use Quark Xpress in graphics school. Go figure. So, I told my grandson to check this out: Bay College: 1 W Campbell Avenue, Campbell, CA http://www.baycollegeca.org/index.php?curpage=deg_digitalarts NewTek ignited the desktop video revolution, and television production was never the same... Newtek: 5131 Beckwith Blvd. San Antonio, TX 78249 http://www.newtek.com/company/careers.html If you plan on going to an technology interview soon, here are some tips: 3. Technology. Take a look at the kind of desktops, mobile technology and video/projection equipment being used around the office. If it all appears cutting-edge, that can indicate the firm values up-to-date technology. Read more: 7 Critical Observations to Make While Waiting to Interview: http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/interview On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: The video game market is flooded and not doing so well. There is A LOT of outsourcing to third world countries of video game production. I kinda know a little bit about that industry. ;-) BTW, if your grandson wants to be games designer then he better get deeply involved in the arts. I've known some of the best and most famous ones and they didn't have a computer science background. One was much more an artist than anything else. On 10/21/2013 07:48 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: I don't know what they expect people to do for a living these days. It looks like there may be more jobs available in the medical field (after the current down turn is over). It's not complicated - there will be more and more older people for young people to take care of in the future. So, I helped put my grandaughter through nursing school - an RN program - two years. Before she graduated, she was offered a job in San Diego with a sign-on bonus! My grandson wants to be a computer game designer - he is learning programming at a community college in Sonoma. According to the Entertainment Software Association, which represents American video game companies, Texas is home to 24 colleges and universities that offer video-game-related courses and programs. More are on the way, including a University of Texas at Austin post-baccalaureate program that will enroll students in 2014. 'Texas Incentives Lure Video Game Companies' http://www.texastribune.org/ On 10/20/2013 11:16 AM, Bhairitu wrote: I did desktop publishing as a temp in 1980 for a company that did those real estate magazines. Of course there was no graphics, just entering listing on paper into the computer. The gig lasted only a few days as they just needed some extra temps for a while who were good at typing and maybe some data entry experience (got that at the EDS temp gig). EDS wanted me back but I wound up working
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Signposts Of Enlightenment
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Seraph, I used to think that there are infallible signs of enlightenment. Now I think there aren't any! Especially when considering the inner state of another. I just go by resonance, meaning, I listen to the teachers whose words resonate with my own experience. I find I don't seek out anyone in particular for knowledge or insight, especially to do with consciousness or how to live my life. It has been my experience, that even from the most unexpected places, there comes revelation and wisdom. It comes from my dogs, my friends - many who have never meditated or read a spiritual tome in their life - it can come from watching a bird. I think the safest way to avoid the pitfalls of what some of us have been talking about the last few days with regard to egocentric or false prophets and teachers is to find out about life by living it, being open to what might spring out at you at any moment and considering it, taking it in or deciding it may not be relevant either at that time or at all. My guru is not human, I find it safer, more reliable that way. On Sunday, January 19, 2014 9:18 PM, s3raphita@... s3raphita@... wrote: Is it not possible that *the* infallible sign of being enlightened is that you don't seek followers or power? I'm sure there have been many individuals over the centuries who have had that awakening experience and at that same moment realised that their insight would be completely misunderstood by the masses. It's striking that Guru Dev had to be tricked into taking up his position as Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math. It reminds me of Plato's thinking in The Republic. His philosophers (wisdom-lovers) would have to be persuaded against their wishes to become leaders of the community by appealing to their sense of duty. True philosophers would want to spend their time in contemplation.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Apostasy, is a terrible thing.
Xeno, you are probably correct that it is difficult after all this time to know what Jesus actually taught. For me he embodies agape. So any teaching that deviates much from that principle, I don't trust it as coming from him. I think early on his actual teachings got hijacked for other than spiritual purposes. I seem to have grown a cynical streak in myself! On Saturday, January 18, 2014 4:32 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote: There are a few splinter Christian churches that do not follow the idea that we are inherently sinful, but are instead, inherently good. One such church is the Unity Church of Practical Christianity. On the other hand the majority of Christian flavours do indeed seem to regard our species as base and vile in some way. Should a creator that makes such defective merchandise really be revered for attempting to patch its mistakes? It really does not make much sense. OK, y'all are bad, doomed, so I'll send my son and kill him for your benefit. After all this time it is hard to tell what Jesus actually taught; it may have had a more esoteric meaning in the beginning, but it is that more abstract way of interpretation that tends to get lost as time marches on. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote: I do believe I said Christianity, not Catholicism, Share. I'm astonished you weren't aware that it's Christian doctrine across the board. As I said, if we weren't defective, there'd have been no need for God to send Jesus to redeem us and make us acceptable in God's sight. I'm not saying you or anybody else should believe this. It was just an aside, a reminder that this is what Christianity says.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jobs That Suck
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Jobs That Suck There are probably lots of jobs out there that suck, really suck. Like, cleaning out chicken coops in the hot summer; or laying hot black tar onto a rooftop of a commercial building; or jobs where you had to put up with jerks at work and a fat, bald headed guy that smokes a cigar. Rita used to be a Cad Drafter for Gibson Guitar in Long Beach. But, you know what they say: You don't have to like your boss, just do what he says. One of the first jobs I had after college in 1966 was as a graphic designer at Pacific Mutual Life in Newport Beach - the first company west of the Mississippi River to use the brand new technology called Univac I. At that time, the art department used a drafting table, T-square and a VariTyper for type setting. It would be years before I got my first desk-top computer. But, I used to watch the tapes spin in the computer room. At the time, I was living in Venice Beach at 405 Howland Canal. One spring day I decided to quit working at the insurance company because the job sucked and I had a real bad case of spring-fever. So, on a Friday I got my pay check and went home - and never went back. Didn't say anything to anyone, just didn't come back, never called. Just like that - sweet! They probably wondered what happened to me. Go figure. In the basement of Pacific Life with the printers 1965. Good picture. You were a skinny thing. Here I am in about 1963 probably second grade. My mother liked to give me the home haircut thus the bangs that look rather askew. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: One time I interviewed for a job publishing menus for restaurants around town using Microsoft Word. Rita had a temp desktop publishing job several years ago. She was doing the newsletters and magazines for twenty small suburban enclaves around San Antonio. The company, 'Neighborhood News', had a PC with Microsoft Publisher on it. Lame! We both learned how to use Quark Xpress in graphics school. Go figure. So, I told my grandson to check this out: Bay College: 1 W Campbell Avenue, Campbell, CA http://www.baycollegeca.org/index.php?curpage=deg_digitalarts http://www.baycollegeca.org/index.php?curpage=deg_digitalarts NewTek ignited the desktop video revolution, and television production was never the same... Newtek: 5131 Beckwith Blvd. San Antonio, TX 78249 http://www.newtek.com/company/careers.html http://www.newtek.com/company/careers.html If you plan on going to an technology interview soon, here are some tips: 3. Technology. Take a look at the kind of desktops, mobile technology and video/projection equipment being used around the office. If it all appears cutting-edge, that can indicate the firm values up-to-date technology. Read more: 7 Critical Observations to Make While Waiting to Interview: http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/interview http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/outside-voices-careers/2013/10/22/7-critical-observations-to-make-while-waiting-to-interview On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: The video game market is flooded and not doing so well. There is A LOT of outsourcing to third world countries of video game production. I kinda know a little bit about that industry. ;-) BTW, if your grandson wants to be games designer then he better get deeply involved in the arts. I've known some of the best and most famous ones and they didn't have a computer science background. One was much more an artist than anything else. On 10/21/2013 07:48 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: I don't know what they expect people to do for a living these days. It looks like there may be more jobs available in the medical field (after the current down turn is over). It's not complicated - there will be more and more older people for young people to take care of in the future. So, I helped put my grandaughter through nursing school - an RN program - two years. Before she graduated, she was offered a job in San Diego with a sign-on bonus! My grandson wants to be a computer game designer - he is learning programming at a community college in Sonoma. According to the Entertainment Software Association, which represents American video game companies, Texas is home to 24 colleges and universities that offer video-game-related courses and programs. More are on the way, including a University of Texas at Austin post-baccalaureate program that will enroll students in 2014. 'Texas Incentives Lure Video Game Companies' http://www.texastribune.org/ http://www.texastribune.org/2013/10/04/texas-incentives-lure-video-game-companies/ On 10/20/2013 11:16 AM, Bhairitu wrote: I did desktop publishing as a temp in 1980 for a company that did those real
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Rent is Too Damn High!
For about a year we lived in Venice California at 405 Howland Canal. Barry said he used to live in Venice too. It used to be a great place with health food stores around and a great beach to visit. It's only a few miles from the Santa Monica Pier. [image: Inline image 1] Howland Canal,Venice, California Back in those days (1965) it was a cheap place to live and only a block from the ocean beach. My rent for a room with kitchen privilges was only $50 a month. Later, we rented the whole house for $650 a month. The place on Howland Canal had a great covered porch on the front looking out on the canal; a large living room and three small bedrooms.It was divided into two apartments, one upstairs and one down stairs. And, like many other canal houses it had a great back yard going down to the canal. Sweet! [image: Inline image 2] That's all changed now that the Marina Del Rey was built and the canals were renovated. The rent is too damn high! [image: Inline image 3] In 1951, Charles Brittin, a mailman and amateur photographer, moved to Venice, Calif., and began to photograph his surroundings: the desolate streets and misty midways, the oil derricks erected by the beach and the vibrant Beat community, with the artist Wallace Berman at its core, that gathered regularly at Brittin’s apartment for impromptu parties... Read more: 'The Untrained Eye' http://steffienelson.com/2011/04/18/the-untrained-eye/ On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Two guys got together in San Antonio to sell some trucks and some TVs - Ernesto Ancira at Ancira-Winton Chevrolet and Bjorn's Audio Video. You can buy a new regular cab 2-wheel drive Chevrolet Silverado for $23,948 and Bjorn will throw in a free JVC 32 flat screen TV. WOW! I'm really impressed! I think we should rush over to get a new work truck before they sell out, except: The rent is is too damn high! http://www.kbb.com/ http://www.bjorns.com/ http://www.ancirachev.com/ On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Increasingly, experts in health insurance are becoming concerned that many of these first-time buyers will be in for a shock when they get medical care next year and discover they're on the hook for most of the initial cost. 'Health plan sticker shock ahead for some buyers' http://news.yahoo.com/health-plan-sticker-shock-ahead-buyers-160838205.html On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: Taking care of all these cars can really keep a guy busy. There are maintenance costs; keeping them garaged; make sure they are clean inside and out and shiny; paying the State inspections and payments to the tax assessor; and there's oil and gas to buy. Just keeping the right amount of air in the tires is a chore. You used to able to go to your local gas station and they would fill up your car with gas, check the oil and water, make sure the battery was good to go, put air in the tires if needed, and wipe the windows clean. These days, you have to go to a convenience store like an Exxon Tiger Mart to get air for your tires. If you purchase gas and then walk inside and have them turn on the air compressor you can get free air for your tires, and then half of the time, the air unit is out of order. Otherwise, you have to pay.50 cents for air and be real quick about it. Go figure. The rent is too damn high! So, I bought me this handy item tool at Harbor Tool: [image: Inline image 1] On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:14 AM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote: We've been drinking coffee for years. We know a couple that drive all the way to the north side to get their beans. They claim that the beans they get are fresher, roasted on the spot. And, it's true, the beans they get are great, but they cost nearly $10.00. Whenever we're on that side of town we get a bag of their beans. We're also pretty fond of Starbucks French Roast beans, available at Starbucks and Target, which are both close by - $9.00. Most of the Starbucks have a coupon and we get a free cup of joe when we return the bag to Starbucks - a $2.00 value - sweet! And we love the free Wi-Fi and reading the New York Times they provide. We also like the 360 beans at Whole Foods - $8.00. We love to drink coffee, but at those prices, we could go broke before we even get awake. Go figure. So, I bought a large can of Folgers ground coffee for backup at the local grocery store, so we could drink as much coffee as we wanted, all day and night, for cheap. The rent is too damn high! On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Today we went to the grocery store to get a few things and return about a hundred plastic bags. In the parking lot I turned left to find a parking slot and there was this yahoo in a big truck heading toward me, GOING THE WRONG WAY, driving a Ford F-350 with dual wheels on
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Allah' Row in Malaysia
No, they're not extremists, they're just fools. They'll lose in the end. But then again as with any other religion 85% just pay lip service. On 01/20/2014 07:48 AM, s3raph...@yahoo.com wrote: Re Islam is more tolerant than what is being practiced by some Muslim sects: Have you actually read the Koran? Take a look at this conference footage from Sam Harris's site. As Harris says: The organizers of this conference believe (with good reason) that “extremist” views are not rare among Muslims, even in the West. And they consider the media’s denial of this fact to be a symptom of… Islamophobia. The serpent of obscurantism has finally begun to devour its own tail. Apparently, it is a sign of racism to imagine that only a tiny minority of Muslims could actually condone the subjugation of women and the murder of apostates. How dare you call us “extremists” when we represent so many? We are not extreme. This is Islam. They have a point. And it is time for secular liberals and (truly) moderate Muslims to stop denying it. http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/islam-or-islamophobia2
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jobs That Suck
I think my dad decided I had it too easy just playing for dances on weekends and making more money than my high school peer did working at burger shacks after school so he decided I should work in wheat harvest. So for two weeks I got to get up too early in the morning crawl under a WWII surplus truck and oil it. Then drive the thing around during the hot August summer and wait for the combine to fill the truck and then drive it to the grain elevator. Talk about a dirty job. Towards the end of the two weeks I blew the engine in the truck which upset the farmer. That was until something went wrong with the combine and surprisingly I was the only one who knew how to fix it. Needless to say the fact that I blew the engine in the truck was quickly forgotten. On 01/20/2014 07:57 AM, Richard Williams wrote: Jobs That Suck There are probably lots of jobs out there that suck, really suck. Like, cleaning out chicken coops in the hot summer; or laying hot black tar onto a rooftop of a commercial building; or jobs where you had to put up with jerks at work and a fat, bald headed guy that smokes a cigar. Rita used to be a Cad Drafter for Gibson Guitar in Long Beach. But, you know what they say: You don't have to like your boss, just do what he says. sneep
[FairfieldLife] Obscene Wealth
Talk about greed: 85 ‘global elites’ as wealthy as half of the world’s population: Oxfam Oxfam also argues that this is no accident either, saying growing inequality has been driven by a “power grab” by wealthy elites, who have co-opted the political process to rig the rules of the economic system in their favour. More here: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/20/85-global-elites-as-wealthy-as-half-of-the-worlds-population-oxfam/ Had enough? Where's Robin Hood when you need him? To subscribe, send a message to: fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: fairfieldlife-dig...@yahoogroups.com fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: fairfieldlife-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: http://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jobs That Suck
See, Ann and Richard, this is why I prefer yahoo groups to Facebook. You post a picture and people can respond to it and that's that, Bob's your uncle! FB is too complicated and I'm on a learning curve with it! Ann, I still cut my own bangs. My maternal grandmother was a beautician and I think it's in my genes. Cute photo... On Monday, January 20, 2014 10:39 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Jobs That Suck There are probably lots of jobs out there that suck, really suck. Like, cleaning out chicken coops in the hot summer; or laying hot black tar onto a rooftop of a commercial building; or jobs where you had to put up with jerks at work and a fat, bald headed guy that smokes a cigar. Rita used to be a Cad Drafter for Gibson Guitar in Long Beach. But, you know what they say: You don't have to like your boss, just do what he says. One of the first jobs I had after college in 1966 was as a graphic designer at Pacific Mutual Life in Newport Beach - the first company west of the Mississippi River to use the brand new technology called Univac I. At that time, the art department used a drafting table, T-square and a VariTyper for type setting. It would be years before I got my first desk-top computer. But, I used to watch the tapes spin in the computer room. At the time, I was living in Venice Beach at 405 Howland Canal. One spring day I decided to quit working at the insurance company because the job sucked and I had a real bad case of spring-fever. So, on a Friday I got my pay check and went home - and never went back. Didn't say anything to anyone, just didn't come back, never called. Just like that - sweet! They probably wondered what happened to me. Go figure. In the basement of Pacific Life with the printers 1965. Good picture. You were a skinny thing. Here I am in about 1963 probably second grade. My mother liked to give me the home haircut thus the bangs that look rather askew. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: One time I interviewed for a job publishing menus for restaurants around town using Microsoft Word. Rita had a temp desktop publishing job several years ago. She was doing the newsletters and magazines for twenty small suburban enclaves around San Antonio. The company, 'Neighborhood News', had a PC with Microsoft Publisher on it. Lame! We both learned how to use Quark Xpress in graphics school. Go figure. So, I told my grandson to check this out: Bay College: 1 W Campbell Avenue, Campbell, CA http://www.baycollegeca.org/index.php?curpage=deg_digitalarts NewTek ignited the desktop video revolution, and television production was never the same... Newtek: 5131 Beckwith Blvd. San Antonio, TX 78249 http://www.newtek.com/company/careers.html If you plan on going to an technology interview soon, here are some tips: 3. Technology. Take a look at the kind of desktops, mobile technology and video/projection equipment being used around the office. If it all appears cutting-edge, that can indicate the firm values up-to-date technology. Read more: 7 Critical Observations to Make While Waiting to Interview: http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/interview On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: The video game market is flooded and not doing so well. There is A LOT of outsourcing to third world countries of video game production. I kinda know a little bit about that industry. ;-) BTW, if your grandson wants to be games designer then he better get deeply involved in the arts. I've known some of the best and most famous ones and they didn't have a computer science background. One was much more an artist than anything else. On 10/21/2013 07:48 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: I don't know what they expect people to do for a living these days. It looks like there may be more jobs available in the medical field (after the current down turn is over). It's not complicated - there will be more and more older people for young people to take care of in the future. So, I helped put my grandaughter through nursing school - an RN program - two years. Before she graduated, she was offered a job in San Diego with a sign-on bonus! My grandson wants to be a computer game designer - he is learning programming at a community college in Sonoma. According to the Entertainment Software Association, which represents American video game companies, Texas is home to 24 colleges and universities that offer video-game-related courses and programs. More are on the way, including a University of Texas at Austin post-baccalaureate program that will enroll students in 2014. 'Texas Incentives Lure Video Game
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
Share, Peyton Manning is the heart and soul of the Broncos. If he gets injured, the team is not going to win.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jobs That Suck
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: See, Ann and Richard, this is why I prefer yahoo groups to Facebook. You post a picture and people can respond to it and that's that, Bob's your uncle! FB is too complicated and I'm on a learning curve with it! Ann, I still cut my own bangs. My maternal grandmother was a beautician and I think it's in my genes. Cute photo... Thanks Share, cute in a homely sort of way! I messaged you on Facebook regarding privacy settings. If you go to the little bubble icon at the top of your FB page you will see a red number. Click on that and you will see my message. Maybe I can help you with your settings etc. On Monday, January 20, 2014 10:39 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Jobs That Suck There are probably lots of jobs out there that suck, really suck. Like, cleaning out chicken coops in the hot summer; or laying hot black tar onto a rooftop of a commercial building; or jobs where you had to put up with jerks at work and a fat, bald headed guy that smokes a cigar. Rita used to be a Cad Drafter for Gibson Guitar in Long Beach. But, you know what they say: You don't have to like your boss, just do what he says. One of the first jobs I had after college in 1966 was as a graphic designer at Pacific Mutual Life in Newport Beach - the first company west of the Mississippi River to use the brand new technology called Univac I. At that time, the art department used a drafting table, T-square and a VariTyper for type setting. It would be years before I got my first desk-top computer. But, I used to watch the tapes spin in the computer room. At the time, I was living in Venice Beach at 405 Howland Canal. One spring day I decided to quit working at the insurance company because the job sucked and I had a real bad case of spring-fever. So, on a Friday I got my pay check and went home - and never went back. Didn't say anything to anyone, just didn't come back, never called. Just like that - sweet! They probably wondered what happened to me. Go figure. In the basement of Pacific Life with the printers 1965. Good picture. You were a skinny thing. Here I am in about 1963 probably second grade. My mother liked to give me the home haircut thus the bangs that look rather askew. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: One time I interviewed for a job publishing menus for restaurants around town using Microsoft Word. Rita had a temp desktop publishing job several years ago. She was doing the newsletters and magazines for twenty small suburban enclaves around San Antonio. The company, 'Neighborhood News', had a PC with Microsoft Publisher on it. Lame! We both learned how to use Quark Xpress in graphics school. Go figure. So, I told my grandson to check this out: Bay College: 1 W Campbell Avenue, Campbell, CA http://www.baycollegeca.org/index.php?curpage=deg_digitalarts http://www.baycollegeca.org/index.php?curpage=deg_digitalarts NewTek ignited the desktop video revolution, and television production was never the same... Newtek: 5131 Beckwith Blvd. San Antonio, TX 78249 http://www.newtek.com/company/careers.html http://www.newtek.com/company/careers.html If you plan on going to an technology interview soon, here are some tips: 3. Technology. Take a look at the kind of desktops, mobile technology and video/projection equipment being used around the office. If it all appears cutting-edge, that can indicate the firm values up-to-date technology. Read more: 7 Critical Observations to Make While Waiting to Interview: http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/interview http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/outside-voices-careers/2013/10/22/7-critical-observations-to-make-while-waiting-to-interview On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: The video game market is flooded and not doing so well. There is A LOT of outsourcing to third world countries of video game production. I kinda know a little bit about that industry. ;-) BTW, if your grandson wants to be games designer then he better get deeply involved in the arts. I've known some of the best and most famous ones and they didn't have a computer science background. One was much more an artist than anything else. On 10/21/2013 07:48 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: I don't know what they expect people to do for a living these days. It looks like there may be more jobs available in the medical field (after the current down turn is over). It's not complicated - there will be more and more older people for young people to take care of in the future. So, I helped put my grandaughter through nursing school - an RN program - two years. Before she graduated, she was offered a job
[FairfieldLife] RE: 'Allah' Row in Malaysia
S3, The Old Testament or the Torah has many extremist views as well. That's why fundamentalism from any religion will only lead to violence. The failure to realize this is due to a low level of consciousness which can be attributed to the reptilian part of the human brain. Moses has written in Genesis that the fall of Adam and Eve was due to the Snake in the Garden of Eden.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Allah' Row in Malaysia
Bhairitu, The Islamists or terrorists are using Islam as a political tool to grab power to subjugate the people. These people are not concerned for the development of their people's collective consciousness. Their motivation is domination to keep the people ignorant through violence and fear. IOW, we are witnessing Evil at work here.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
Ha. Well then, if your theory holds, the Seahawks will win the Superbowl. Not that winning means anything of any *real* importance, but it is good for a short adrenalin rush. The lowly fish should be and is held in high esteem by many; a critical element of the ecosystem they are. Have a good day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote: The outcome or this weekend's games had to be this way, according to the Limbaugh theorem. You see, the Patriots represent a bunch of greedy, white, land grabbing, slave owning, racist, sexist ,homophobes playing the Brancos, wild spirited horses that the Native Americans(natural and legal inhabitants of the land, peace loving and living in harmony with nature) revered and depended on. Nature had to back the Broncos. And the 49'ers were a bunch of greedy, white, red- necks, land grabbing, Indian killing, destroying the land and waterways, mining for gold to satisfy their lust for wealth. The Seahawks are nature's free spirits, soaring high in the sky representing total freedom and liberation, hurting nobody(except an occasional fish,and notice, it's only fish, a lower life form). So, in this age of enlightenment, this is what nature ordained. There could be no other outcome. The pundits of Fairfield saw to that. From: Share Long sharelong60@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 4:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football Hey John, it sounds like a really good game. I'm remembering that back in the fall, Farmer's Almanac predicted a big storm for Feb 2. I just listened to Peyton Manning's post game interview and he seems like a humble guy. Might google for his chart (-: On Monday, January 20, 2014 1:50 AM, jr_esq@... jr_esq@... wrote: Emily, It was a good game. The 49ers played their hearts out. But the fans up there are just too loud and spirited to get a win in that stadium. Also, the Seahawks defense was very solid. Since my home team lost, I am now rooting for the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. Most of the football pundits are now favoring the Seahawks to win. But you can never be too sure with Peyton Manning as the QB for the Broncos.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
Rename the Super Bowl the Stoner Bowl because the two teams playing come from state that have legalized marijuana. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D Care for some munchies? On 01/19/2014 11:50 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Emily, It was a good game. The 49ers played their hearts out. But the fans up there are just too loud and spirited to get a win in that stadium. Also, the Seahawks defense was very solid. Since my home team lost, I am now rooting for the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. Most of the football pundits are now favoring the Seahawks to win. But you can never be too sure with Peyton Manning as the QB for the Broncos.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: 'Allah' Row in Malaysia
Yup, fools make good useful idiots. ;-) On 01/20/2014 10:33 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Bhairitu, The Islamists or terrorists are using Islam as a political tool to grab power to subjugate the people. These people are not concerned for the development of their people's collective consciousness. Their motivation is domination to keep the people ignorant through violence and fear. IOW, we are witnessing Evil at work here.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
yahoo, nature supporting the 2 states that legalized marijuana! Read it and weep...out of joy! On Monday, January 20, 2014 1:40 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Rename the Super Bowl the Stoner Bowl because the two teams playing come from state that have legalized marijuana. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D Care for some munchies? On 01/19/2014 11:50 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Emily, It was a good game. The 49ers played their hearts out. But the fans up there are just too loud and spirited to get a win in that stadium. Also, the Seahawks defense was very solid. Since my home team lost, I am now rooting for the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. Most of the football pundits are now favoring the Seahawks to win. But you can never be too sure with Peyton Manning as the QB for the Broncos.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
John, how does Peyton's chart look? Any Mangal problems? Hey, anybody know what the book is on the game? On Monday, January 20, 2014 12:05 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Share, Peyton Manning is the heart and soul of the Broncos. If he gets injured, the team is not going to win.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jobs That Suck
Thanks, Ann, I'm still trying to figure out how stuff is getting on my front page. And how to unfriend those people! FB help was no help at all. And I see that people have lots of problems with it. Doesn't look like much fun! On Monday, January 20, 2014 12:20 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: See, Ann and Richard, this is why I prefer yahoo groups to Facebook. You post a picture and people can respond to it and that's that, Bob's your uncle! FB is too complicated and I'm on a learning curve with it! Ann, I still cut my own bangs. My maternal grandmother was a beautician and I think it's in my genes. Cute photo... Thanks Share, cute in a homely sort of way! I messaged you on Facebook regarding privacy settings. If you go to the little bubble icon at the top of your FB page you will see a red number. Click on that and you will see my message. Maybe I can help you with your settings etc. On Monday, January 20, 2014 10:39 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Jobs That Suck There are probably lots of jobs out there that suck, really suck. Like, cleaning out chicken coops in the hot summer; or laying hot black tar onto a rooftop of a commercial building; or jobs where you had to put up with jerks at work and a fat, bald headed guy that smokes a cigar. Rita used to be a Cad Drafter for Gibson Guitar in Long Beach. But, you know what they say: You don't have to like your boss, just do what he says. One of the first jobs I had after college in 1966 was as a graphic designer at Pacific Mutual Life in Newport Beach - the first company west of the Mississippi River to use the brand new technology called Univac I. At that time, the art department used a drafting table, T-square and a VariTyper for type setting. It would be years before I got my first desk-top computer. But, I used to watch the tapes spin in the computer room. At the time, I was living in Venice Beach at 405 Howland Canal. One spring day I decided to quit working at the insurance company because the job sucked and I had a real bad case of spring-fever. So, on a Friday I got my pay check and went home - and never went back. Didn't say anything to anyone, just didn't come back, never called. Just like that - sweet! They probably wondered what happened to me. Go figure. In the basement of Pacific Life with the printers 1965. Good picture. You were a skinny thing. Here I am in about 1963 probably second grade. My mother liked to give me the home haircut thus the bangs that look rather askew. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: One time I interviewed for a job publishing menus for restaurants around town using Microsoft Word. Rita had a temp desktop publishing job several years ago. She was doing the newsletters and magazines for twenty small suburban enclaves around San Antonio. The company, 'Neighborhood News', had a PC with Microsoft Publisher on it. Lame! We both learned how to use Quark Xpress in graphics school. Go figure. So, I told my grandson to check this out: Bay College: 1 W Campbell Avenue, Campbell, CA http://www.baycollegeca.org/index.php?curpage=deg_digitalarts NewTek ignited the desktop video revolution, and television production was never the same... Newtek: 5131 Beckwith Blvd. San Antonio, TX 78249 http://www.newtek.com/company/careers.html If you plan on going to an technology interview soon, here are some tips: 3. Technology. Take a look at the kind of desktops, mobile technology and video/projection equipment being used around the office. If it all appears cutting-edge, that can indicate the firm values up-to-date technology. Read more: 7 Critical Observations to Make While Waiting to Interview: http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/interview On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: The video game market is flooded and not doing so well. There is A LOT of outsourcing to third world countries of video game production. I kinda know a little bit about that industry. ;-) BTW, if your grandson wants to be games designer then he better get deeply involved in the arts. I've known some of the best and most famous ones and they didn't have a computer science background. One was much more an artist than anything else. On 10/21/2013 07:48 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: I don't know what they expect people to do for a living these days. It looks like there may be more jobs available in the medical field (after the current down turn is over). It's not complicated - there will be more and more older people for young people to take care of in the future. So, I helped put my grandaughter through nursing school - an RN program - two years. Before she
[FairfieldLife] Why yogii's and svaamii's have long hair and beards?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Jobs That Suck
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, Ann, I'm still trying to figure out how stuff is getting on my front page. And how to unfriend those people! FB help was no help at all. And I see that people have lots of problems with it. Doesn't look like much fun! Use my FB messaging and I'll walk you through it. On Monday, January 20, 2014 12:20 PM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: See, Ann and Richard, this is why I prefer yahoo groups to Facebook. You post a picture and people can respond to it and that's that, Bob's your uncle! FB is too complicated and I'm on a learning curve with it! Ann, I still cut my own bangs. My maternal grandmother was a beautician and I think it's in my genes. Cute photo... Thanks Share, cute in a homely sort of way! I messaged you on Facebook regarding privacy settings. If you go to the little bubble icon at the top of your FB page you will see a red number. Click on that and you will see my message. Maybe I can help you with your settings etc. On Monday, January 20, 2014 10:39 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Jobs That Suck There are probably lots of jobs out there that suck, really suck. Like, cleaning out chicken coops in the hot summer; or laying hot black tar onto a rooftop of a commercial building; or jobs where you had to put up with jerks at work and a fat, bald headed guy that smokes a cigar. Rita used to be a Cad Drafter for Gibson Guitar in Long Beach. But, you know what they say: You don't have to like your boss, just do what he says. One of the first jobs I had after college in 1966 was as a graphic designer at Pacific Mutual Life in Newport Beach - the first company west of the Mississippi River to use the brand new technology called Univac I. At that time, the art department used a drafting table, T-square and a VariTyper for type setting. It would be years before I got my first desk-top computer. But, I used to watch the tapes spin in the computer room. At the time, I was living in Venice Beach at 405 Howland Canal. One spring day I decided to quit working at the insurance company because the job sucked and I had a real bad case of spring-fever. So, on a Friday I got my pay check and went home - and never went back. Didn't say anything to anyone, just didn't come back, never called. Just like that - sweet! They probably wondered what happened to me. Go figure. In the basement of Pacific Life with the printers 1965. Good picture. You were a skinny thing. Here I am in about 1963 probably second grade. My mother liked to give me the home haircut thus the bangs that look rather askew. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... mailto:punditster@... wrote: One time I interviewed for a job publishing menus for restaurants around town using Microsoft Word. Rita had a temp desktop publishing job several years ago. She was doing the newsletters and magazines for twenty small suburban enclaves around San Antonio. The company, 'Neighborhood News', had a PC with Microsoft Publisher on it. Lame! We both learned how to use Quark Xpress in graphics school. Go figure. So, I told my grandson to check this out: Bay College: 1 W Campbell Avenue, Campbell, CA http://www.baycollegeca.org/index.php?curpage=deg_digitalarts http://www.baycollegeca.org/index.php?curpage=deg_digitalarts NewTek ignited the desktop video revolution, and television production was never the same... Newtek: 5131 Beckwith Blvd. San Antonio, TX 78249 http://www.newtek.com/company/careers.html http://www.newtek.com/company/careers.html If you plan on going to an technology interview soon, here are some tips: 3. Technology. Take a look at the kind of desktops, mobile technology and video/projection equipment being used around the office. If it all appears cutting-edge, that can indicate the firm values up-to-date technology. Read more: 7 Critical Observations to Make While Waiting to Interview: http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/interview http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/outside-voices-careers/2013/10/22/7-critical-observations-to-make-while-waiting-to-interview On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... wrote: The video game market is flooded and not doing so well. There is A LOT of outsourcing to third world countries of video game production. I kinda know a little bit about that industry. ;-) BTW, if your grandson wants to be games designer then he better get deeply involved in the arts. I've known some of the best and most famous ones and they didn't have a computer science background. One was much more an artist than anything else. On 10/21/2013 07:48 AM, Richard J. Williams
Re: [FairfieldLife] Jobs That Suck
Thanks, Ann, I called my best friend who LOVES FB and her SO answered and he walked me through unfriending. And explained about Front Page and Timeline. So I'm taking baby steps with it. But really, so far, I don't like it very much. It seems too complicated. But maybe I'll change my mind. Meanwhile I'll use email and posts! On Monday, January 20, 2014 2:52 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: Thanks, Ann, I'm still trying to figure out how stuff is getting on my front page. And how to unfriend those people! FB help was no help at all. And I see that people have lots of problems with it. Doesn't look like much fun! Use my FB messaging and I'll walk you through it. On Monday, January 20, 2014 12:20 PM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: See, Ann and Richard, this is why I prefer yahoo groups to Facebook. You post a picture and people can respond to it and that's that, Bob's your uncle! FB is too complicated and I'm on a learning curve with it! Ann, I still cut my own bangs. My maternal grandmother was a beautician and I think it's in my genes. Cute photo... Thanks Share, cute in a homely sort of way! I messaged you on Facebook regarding privacy settings. If you go to the little bubble icon at the top of your FB page you will see a red number. Click on that and you will see my message. Maybe I can help you with your settings etc. On Monday, January 20, 2014 10:39 AM, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote: Jobs That Suck There are probably lots of jobs out there that suck, really suck. Like, cleaning out chicken coops in the hot summer; or laying hot black tar onto a rooftop of a commercial building; or jobs where you had to put up with jerks at work and a fat, bald headed guy that smokes a cigar. Rita used to be a Cad Drafter for Gibson Guitar in Long Beach. But, you know what they say: You don't have to like your boss, just do what he says. One of the first jobs I had after college in 1966 was as a graphic designer at Pacific Mutual Life in Newport Beach - the first company west of the Mississippi River to use the brand new technology called Univac I. At that time, the art department used a drafting table, T-square and a VariTyper for type setting. It would be years before I got my first desk-top computer. But, I used to watch the tapes spin in the computer room. At the time, I was living in Venice Beach at 405 Howland Canal. One spring day I decided to quit working at the insurance company because the job sucked and I had a real bad case of spring-fever. So, on a Friday I got my pay check and went home - and never went back. Didn't say anything to anyone, just didn't come back, never called. Just like that - sweet! They probably wondered what happened to me. Go figure. In the basement of Pacific Life with the printers 1965. Good picture. You were a skinny thing. Here I am in about 1963 probably second grade. My mother liked to give me the home haircut thus the bangs that look rather askew. On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... wrote: One time I interviewed for a job publishing menus for restaurants around town using Microsoft Word. Rita had a temp desktop publishing job several years ago. She was doing the newsletters and magazines for twenty small suburban enclaves around San Antonio. The company, 'Neighborhood News', had a PC with Microsoft Publisher on it. Lame! We both learned how to use Quark Xpress in graphics school. Go figure. So, I told my grandson to check this out: Bay College: 1 W Campbell Avenue, Campbell, CA http://www.baycollegeca.org/index.php?curpage=deg_digitalarts NewTek ignited the desktop video revolution, and television production was never the same... Newtek: 5131 Beckwith Blvd. San Antonio, TX 78249 http://www.newtek.com/company/careers.html If you plan on going to an technology interview soon, here are some tips: 3. Technology. Take a look at the kind of desktops, mobile technology and video/projection equipment being used around the office. If it all appears cutting-edge, that can indicate the firm values up-to-date technology. Read more: 7 Critical Observations to Make While Waiting to Interview: http://money.usnews.com/money/blogs/interview On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: The video game market is flooded and not doing so well. There is A LOT of outsourcing to third world countries of video game production. I kinda know a little bit about that industry. ;-) BTW, if your grandson wants to be games designer then he better get deeply involved in the arts. I've known some of the best and most famous ones and they didn't have a computer science background.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Obscene Wealth
Yes, Spiritual Economy; this is extremely sound shastra to meditate and live by in life: —Are Meditators careful to live within the bounds of their circumstances, and to avoid involving themselves in business beyond their ability to manage; or in hazardous or speculative trade. Are they just in their dealings, and punctual in complying with their contracts and engagements; and in paying their debts seasonably? And where any give reasonable grounds for fear in these respects, is due care extended to them? FFL Macro key 5 The Fairfield Meditating Community “Based on balancing labor and leisure to meditate while working together for the benefit of the community.” [Not unlike the transcendentalist at Brook Farm] FFL Macro key 7
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
Bhairitu, The other night, I was watching a documentary about the sadhus in India. The narrator stated that the sadhus smoke bhong or marijuana all day because they consider the plant to be a divine gift from Shiva. So, they smoke the hemp to worship Shiva. Is it possible that these cities with legalized marijuana are being blessed by Shiva? Thus, their teams have made it to the Super Bowl. Also, I'm beginning to believe that smoking marijuana is the reason why the Seahawks fans are so loud and spirited during the games up there. As such, the big game should be renamed Shiva Bowl--but it may not sell in a nominally Christian country like the USA.
[FairfieldLife] RE: It's All About Football
Share, Yes, these cities may have been blessed by Shiva. Please, see my comments to Bhairitu on this thread.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
On 01/20/2014 02:35 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Bhairitu, The other night, I was watching a documentary about the sadhus in India. The narrator stated that the sadhus smoke bhong or marijuana all day because they consider the plant to be a divine gift from Shiva. So, they smoke the hemp to worship Shiva. Yes, there are government marijuana shops in India for that. Is it possible that these cities with legalized marijuana are being blessed by Shiva? Thus, their teams have made it to the Super Bowl. Also, I'm beginning to believe that smoking marijuana is the reason why the Seahawks fans are so loud and spirited during the games up there. As such, the big game should be renamed Shiva Bowl--but it may not sell in a nominally Christian country like the USA. Eyes roll. Remember pot is not legal as it is in Washington and Colorado so be careful.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
The recent drug bust in Fairfield of a ru kid and his wife, who were caught with 100 pounds of cannabis and a bunch of other stuff, got me thinking... Which Hindu gods are associated with methamphetamine , heroin, and black market pharmaceuticals? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_...@yahoo.com wrote: Bhairitu, The other night, I was watching a documentary about the sadhus in India. The narrator stated that the sadhus smoke bhong or marijuana all day because they consider the plant to be a divine gift from Shiva. So, they smoke the hemp to worship Shiva. Is it possible that these cities with legalized marijuana are being blessed by Shiva? Thus, their teams have made it to the Super Bowl. Also, I'm beginning to believe that smoking marijuana is the reason why the Seahawks fans are so loud and spirited during the games up there. As such, the big game should be renamed Shiva Bowl--but it may not sell in a nominally Christian country like the USA.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Signposts Of Enlightenment
No, no other questions. The whole guru thing is so universal on one level and so ridiculous on another level there must be gazillions of experiences we can all have. I appreciate you sharing what you have shared. On Mon, 1/20/14, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Signposts Of Enlightenment To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 20, 2014, 4:52 AM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote: Do you really feel that Robin was influenced by outside intelligences? Since you had so much time with him, I value your opinion. Hey Michael, I like your enquiring mind. I like that you worked so hard to realize something that, unfortunately, in the end did not pan out for you. I like you as a person, as much as anyone can know or like someone here at FFL without having actually met them. I think you are smart and sincere and you are passionate. You are also a very good writer so don't sell yourself short by comparing yourself to other writers here that you say you admire. (smiley face) Therefore, I am happy to try and answer your question. Robin was definitely tuned into something beyond who he was as Robin. At the time, he thought he was enlightened and we believed this was so. Not having seen what enlightenment was I could buy it. He was a very western version of this phenomenon. He incorporated western dress, western speech, western culture (art, literature, poetry, music) into what we talked about, what we went to see in theaters and concerts. He surrounded himself with all that was current and relevant and dynamic in what we know of as 'lifestyle' in what was then the 20th century. Consequently, he seemed relevant to us on lots of levels and the added bonus was he was a realized human being. How cool was that? I am not going into all the detail that I could here because I lack the energy and the time but to answer your question I have come to know Robin on a few levels. I knew him in the 80's and I know him to some degree now. He is different in some very fundamental ways now than he was in the 80's. There are still similarities though but the similarities don't have anything to do with enlightenment - they have to do with his essential personhood as I know it to be. The trappings of what he personified or manifested back when there were so many confrontations and demonic battles and drama seems to have fallen away. I saw the regular man, the normal guy in moments back during WTS and that is what attracted me to him, not his enlightenment, not his promise to help us rid ourselves of the demonic. I simply liked the man, his brilliance, his intellect and the times when he acted like a friend. Others liked him and hung around for other reasons. I know I haven't answered your questions MJ so if you want to know more let me know. There is so much to cover that, without specifics, I find myself unable to hone in on any one thing. On Mon, 1/20/14, awoelflebater@... awoelflebater@... wrote: Subject: [FairfieldLife] RE: Signposts Of Enlightenment To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 20, 2014, 1:46 AM ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote: Yeah, but Barry did not mention Robin at all in his post, so why bring up a tangential topic? It is very difficult for spiritual teachers to avoid some of these traps because when surrounded by adoring wanna be disciples it is difficult to avoid being forced into a very strange bubble that isolates them from a more normal existence. Very few teachers even acknowledge there is this effect. Now I think that even teachers that fall off the wagon sometimes produce awakened students; more so one who does not. But what was the result of Robin's teaching, where are his enlightened students? I think this is a moot question given what we know about what Robin feels about his time enlightened and his acknowledged effect on those who chose to either become his wife, best friends or students. Robin renounced it all, made huge efforts to divest himself of what he recognized as evil and unwanted influences in his life. He ended his allegiance with those intelligences that took over his life, his actions. Other teachers have not chosen to do that so comparing Robin to other enlightened mystics or gurus is not really relevant here. Consequently to ask who his enlightened students are is like asking where Marilyn Monroe's grandchildren
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
As of December 2013, 20 states have legalized marijuana in some form, two of these have legalized marijuana for *recreational* use. http://www.governing.com/gov-data/state-marijuana-laws-map-medical-recreational.html http://www.governing.com/gov-data/state-marijuana-laws-map-medical-recreational.html ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote: yahoo, nature supporting the 2 states that legalized marijuana! Read it and weep...out of joy! On Monday, January 20, 2014 1:40 PM, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote: Rename the Super Bowl the Stoner Bowl because the two teams playing come from state that have legalized marijuana. Put that in your chillum and smoke it. :-D Care for some munchies? On 01/19/2014 11:50 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Emily, It was a good game. The 49ers played their hearts out. But the fans up there are just too loud and spirited to get a win in that stadium. Also, the Seahawks defense was very solid. Since my home team lost, I am now rooting for the Seahawks in the Super Bowl. Most of the football pundits are now favoring the Seahawks to win. But you can never be too sure with Peyton Manning as the QB for the Broncos.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
Re: Is it possible that these cities with legalized marijuana are being blessed by Shiva? Thus, their teams have made it to the Super Bowl. Also, I'm beginning to believe that smoking marijuana is the reason why the Seahawks fans are so loud and spirited during the games up there. John, this is very funny; I almost feel like I've partaken myself after reading this. And I believe I can confidently say that smoking marijuana is *NOT* why the fans are so loud and spirited this season. I'd hesitate a guess it is because we are winning and winning big this year and the number 12 is everywhere, literally everywhere. For the record, smoking dope is not known for causing loud and boisterous behavior of said type; I'd say drinking alcohol would be a better bet as an incendiary for raucous behavior, although emotions and adrenaline are running high, regardless. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote: Bhairitu, The other night, I was watching a documentary about the sadhus in India. The narrator stated that the sadhus smoke bhong or marijuana all day because they consider the plant to be a divine gift from Shiva. So, they smoke the hemp to worship Shiva. Is it possible that these cities with legalized marijuana are being blessed by Shiva? Thus, their teams have made it to the Super Bowl. Also, I'm beginning to believe that smoking marijuana is the reason why the Seahawks fans are so loud and spirited during the games up there. As such, the big game should be renamed Shiva Bowl--but it may not sell in a nominally Christian country like the USA.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Jobs That Suck
If you really want a job that sucks (a prestigious job, that is - we can all think of low-status work like prostitution that really does suck!) I've always thought that being a forensic pathologist pretty much takes the biscuit. I also read somewhere that dentists have a high rate of suicide. And how should we judge a bomb-disposal officer? In some ways I can see it would be like solving the ultimate puzzle; the stake is your life.
[FairfieldLife] O Mio Babbino Caro
Sissel sings this classical song with English subtitles. The translation gives an extra dimension to this song. Let us know what you think? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1YKBrUqwIU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1YKBrUqwIU
[FairfieldLife] Pope: Cultivating Consciousness is NOT the same thing as Morality.
“When you speak of consciousness, you do not refer to the moral conscious: the very rigor of your methods ensures that you do not leave the strictly scientific domain which belongs to you. What you have in mind exclusively is the same faculty of perceiving and of reacting to perception, that is to say, the psychophysiological concept which constitutes one of the accepted meanings of the word 'consciousness.'” -(Pope Paul VI addressing a gathering of Scientists for the study of Brain and Conscious Experience, Rome 1964). Excerpt, The Psychobiology of Transcendental Meditation A Literature Review Kanellakos and Lukas 1974 Benjamin, Inc. pp 158
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
Alex, I would guess it's Rahu. But then again it could be any of Shiva's friends. Also, from what I understand, the sadhus drink hard liquor for meditation since Shiva is known for drinking this too. IMO, this comes from the vedic story that Shiva drank the poison to cleanse the primordial Ocean of Milk.
[FairfieldLife] RE: O Mio Babbino Caro
It's actually one of Puccini's best-known arias, from the short comic opera Gianni Schicchi, composed in the early 20th century. Sissel's performance is technically excellent but kind of bloodless, IMHO. (Who is us?) Sissel sings this classical song with English subtitles. The translation gives an extra dimension to this song. Let us know what you think? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1YKBrUqwIU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1YKBrUqwIU
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
Dear Alex the Model of Moderation, it is not the Lourde Unified Field but some demigod of asocialism that arrests these people. Vassana is the classical term. We should have signs out on the four entries to town, Thank you for not selling drugs and alcohol to our children, Pot included. -Buck in the Dome
[FairfieldLife] RE: Why yogii's and svaamii's have long hair and beards?
First time ever I was kicked out of the Domes was for facial hair. They changed the guideline on facial hair after some while. (So much for administrative 'purity of the teaching'). Second or Third time out was for seeing saints. They subsequently granted me (only) an exemption. Jai Gurus Dev, -Buck in the Dome ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/8579163893/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/8579163893/
[FairfieldLife] RE: Why yogii's and svaamii's have long hair and beards?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: First time ever I was kicked out of the Domes was for facial hair. They changed the guideline on facial hair after some while. (So much for administrative 'purity of the teaching'). Second or Third time out was for seeing saints. They subsequently granted me (only) an exemption. Jai Gurus Dev, -Buck in the Dome How many times do I have to tell you Bucko, there are NO SUCH THINGS AS SAINTS. Get over it. Go stare your horse in the face, look in his eyes and tell me this is not the most sublime, the deepest thing you will ever see. Collecting the ashy crap emanating from some fake's toes or feet or whatever it was you said you saw is downright creepy. Get a grip. For a farmer, you need to get grounded again. I think you've flown off in the cornfields to somewhere imaginary and strange. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/8579163893/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/66867356@N02/8579163893/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It's All About Football
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Dear Alex the Model of Moderation, it is not the Lourde Unified Field but some demigod of asocialism that arrests these people. Vassana is the classical term. We should have signs out on the four entries to town, Thank you for not selling drugs and alcohol to our children, Pot included. -Buck in the Dome Add an addendum to that sign: Our children are like all the rest of the children everywhere; they are young and immature and liable to make choices we, as meditators, condemn but which, in the big picture, will allow them to grow and evolve like normal people.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Girish Varma's judicial remand extended
Reading now, 1978 World Government News noticable then the World Government at the top included Indians: Rt. Hon. Kirti Shrivastava Rt. Hon. Praveen Shrivastava and Rt. Hon. Brahmachari Nandkishore “After the maharishi’s death in 2008, his vast empire of educational and other institutions in India and abroad was shared among various members of the family.” See: http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/370423 http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/370423 Nandkishore evidently was not family and apparently is out. Do these other families have controlling interests in estates there like Girish Varma that are also extra-territorial to the SBS Trust and SBS Foundation? The Shankaracharya? How much got away and is out of control of the SBS enclosures that were created at the end stage of Maharishi's life? There do NOT seem to be names of Indian families now with the SBS Boards. Are there villas in the names of these families in India like Girish's? Is there an Indian who can be trusted in TM? Evidently needs a little more transparency on the part of SBS Foundation and Trusts. http://globalpeaceproject.net/about-us/the-foundation/brahmananda-saraswati-foundatio-board-of-directors/ http://globalpeaceproject.net/about-us/the-foundation/brahmananda-saraswati-foundatio-board-of-directors/ Girish, our partner in India: http://globalpeaceproject.net/about-us/our-partner-in-india/ http://globalpeaceproject.net/about-us/our-partner-in-india/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Advaita is about inherent freedom
This reply demonstrates that you are either unable to understand the post or you didn't read it. It also shows that you are probably unqualified to study advaita. The post was about Advaita - not Kashmiri Trika or Shri Vidya.Your reply is merely inane. Don't sully this one with your quasimoto, pseudo-professorial bullshit.
[FairfieldLife] RE: O Mio Babbino Caro
Since it is opera why not listen to it sung by some of the best mezzos? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow1niq0mOwE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow1niq0mOwE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU3bJ5JJhlw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU3bJ5JJhlw
[FairfieldLife] Hidden sector matter and YF?
As I understood it, John Hagelin explained on Buddha at the Gas Pump that the temperature of Hidden Sector Matter predicted(?) by some string theory would be near absolute zero. Let's suppose that the (a?) subtle body (suukSma-shariira) consists of the HSM. Seems to me that would explain how levitation utilizing the Meissner effect is possible?
[FairfieldLife] RE: Hidden sector matter and YF?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyOtIsnG71U ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote: As I understood it, John Hagelin explained on Buddha at the Gas Pump that the temperature of Hidden Sector Matter predicted(?) by some string theory would be near absolute zero. Let's suppose that the (a?) subtle body (suukSma-shariira) consists of the HSM. Seems to me that would explain how levitation utilizing the Meissner effect is possible?
