[FairfieldLife] Charlie Lutes and early TM movement
It was my good fortune to hear Charlie speak several times a year on the east coast starting in the early '70s until his passing. Many of his predictions about future events have come to past. When speaking of Guru Dev, the two most often repeated phrases I heard Charlie Lutes use were (1) He was a Master of Masters (2) He was a Master of All Paths. He often followed by saying that because of this, only The Guru Dev could bring out Transcendental Meditation which (Charlie always insisted) was the highest teaching of this age.Charlie said the the future would belong to those who radiated peace and meditation and prayer.
[FairfieldLife] Here's a little psychological experiment for FFLers...
How many of you who take more than one nutritional supplement pill per day (for example, a multi-vitamin) can actually make it through this 16-minute takedown from John Oliver? My bet is that most tune out before then, because they would rather pay for a miracle cure in a pill than hear why and how the supplement industry has managed to become a 32 billion-dollars-per-year industry selling almost completely unregulated snake oil. When a group of DNA researchers recently DNA-tested supplements from a dozen North American companies, they found that one-third contained no trace whatsoever of the plant advertised on the bottle. If one in three milk bottles didn't contain milk, you might think twice about pouring the white mystery liquid all over your cereal. My favorite line re Dr. Oz himself: Name me one case where a man named Oz claimed mystical powers and led people horribly astray. John Oliver Takes Down Dr. Oz Over Nutritional Supplements John Oliver Takes Down Dr. Oz Over Nutritional Supplem... John Oliver outlines what exactly is problematic about Dr. Oz and the nutrition supplement industry. View on digg.com Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Harry Chapin's father!
Harry Chapin's father, lost twin brother of J.R.Ewing? http://drummerworld.com/Videos/jimchapinfeellikedancing.html http://drummerworld.com/Videos/jimchapinfeellikedancing.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Harry Chapin's father!
Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer, Vol. I In the early 1940s, Chapin began working on a drum instruction book that was eventually published in 1948 as “Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer, Volume I, Coordinated Independence as Applied to Jazz and Be-Bop.” This book has been known as the definitive study on coordinated independence for jazz drummers. After the release of the book, he carried a pair of drumsticks in his back pocket at all times in case he was called upon to demonstrate a particularly difficult passage so as to prove that every pattern in the book could be played. Still in print today, it became known among drummers simply as “The Chapin Book.”Jim Chapin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Chapin#cite_note-1 Jim Chapin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Chapin#cite_note-1 James Forbes Jim Chapin (July 23, 1919 – July 4, 2009) was an American (New York born and bred) jazz drummer and the author of popular texts on jazz drumming, the first two volumes of which are Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer, Vol. I, and Advance... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Chapin#cite_note-1 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement
What you say about Guru Dev has been confirmed by Theosophists. According to Benjamin Creme, Guru Dev is indeed a Master of Masters having reached a stage of human development of 6.0 at the time of dropping the body in 1953. Most of the Masters in the Hierarchy are were between 4 and 5 at the end of Their last incarnation. Guru Dev is second in evolution only to the eldest known soul on this planet, today in incarnation with the name Maitreya who has a point of evolution of 7.0. To put it in perspective, most of the population in incarnation on earth today has not yet taken the first Initiation. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It was my good fortune to hear Charlie speak several times a year on the east coast starting in the early '70s until his passing. Many of his predictions about future events have come to past. When speaking of Guru Dev, the two most often repeated phrases I heard Charlie Lutes use were (1) He was a Master of Masters (2) He was a Master of All Paths. He often followed by saying that because of this, only The Guru Dev could bring out Transcendental Meditation which (Charlie always insisted) was the highest teaching of this age.Charlie said the the future would belong to those who radiated peace and meditation and prayer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Harry Chapin's father!
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote : Harry Chapin's father, lost twin brother of J.R.Ewing? I think there's some Bill Clinton in there somewhere too... http://drummerworld.com/Videos/jimchapinfeellikedancing.html http://drummerworld.com/Videos/jimchapinfeellikedancing.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
[FairfieldLife] Conversations with Charlie Lutes - Early History of the TM Moveme
One certainly get quite a lot respect for the Americans and what they did in the historical the early days of the Movement by watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zET8l-mnf_I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zET8l-mnf_I
[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
The best thing you can do is get a checking to rid your system of sarcasm. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The best thing you can do is get a checking to rid your system of sarcasm. Will a checking cure me of my desire to state the bleeding obvious too? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
And yet Charlie was fairly vocal in saying that Marshy made a mistake in teaching the TM Sidhi program. How do you account for that? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
The statement is a practical one - Charlie might have been a nice guy, but he was as benighted as Jerry Jarvis and all the other old timers who were wowed by Marshy's charisma. Had the Old Goat been sincere and dealt with the unstressing phenomena in a responsible way and really focused on the good of the world instead of who was warming his bed and how much praise and money he got, he really might have been able to change the world. As it was, he was just another huckster who was in it for himself and his own self pleasure, like Muktananda, Sai Baba and all the rest. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 8:05 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube The best thing you can do is get a checking to rid your system of sarcasm. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
Good one Sal! I wish everyone had read the old article I posted here on Jerry Jarvis - it shows just how dedicated the real True Believers are in indoctrinating everyone into TM Fantasy Land thinking. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 8:18 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The best thing you can do is get a checking to rid your system of sarcasm. Will a checking cure me of my desire to state the bleeding obvious too? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
Only nitwits are interested in the obvious everyone else can see. Watch the tapes with Charlie Lutes and TRY to have a peek into the hidden. Not that I think it will give any meaning for you... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The best thing you can do is get a checking to rid your system of sarcasm. Will a checking cure me of my desire to state the bleeding obvious too? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The best thing you can do is get a checking to rid your system of sarcasm. Will a checking cure me of my desire to state the bleeding obvious too? It sure cured Nabby of his ability to *notice* the bleeding obvious. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Only nitwits are interested in the obvious everyone else can see. Watch the tapes with Charlie Lutes and TRY to have a peek into the hidden. Not that I think it will give any meaning for you... 'It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances. The true mystery of the world is the visible, not the invisible. -- Oscar Wilde
[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
Having listened to a couple of tapes I think he sounds like an old time preacher crossed with any number of new age guru's. Maybe you had to be there to buy into whatever charisma he's supposed to have but he delivers his speeches like a second hand car dealer reading a script. It reminds me of John Hagelin's endless rants on the Marshy channel - but without Hagelin's obvious insanity. Maybe there were just a lot of people about in those days that wanted to hear a positive message, no matter how unlikely? Maybe this explains the intensity of Hagelin's monologues, in Charlies day no one knew any better but now we have the benefit of hindsight, to keep banging on that the Golden Age is coming sounds positively demented. Poor old JH is trying to convince himself as well as us whereas Charlie probably believed it all... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Having listened to a couple of tapes I think he sounds like an old time preacher crossed with any number of new age guru's. Maybe you had to be there to buy into whatever charisma he's supposed to have but he delivers his speeches like a second hand car dealer reading a script. I wouldn't say used car salesman vibe as much as I would Theosophical poseur vibe. Charlie -- from my perspective -- was pretty much a clone of every other male teacher I've ever encountered in the world of Western Mysticism. Used car salesmen actually display a little faux emotion in their pitches. Theosophists and Golden Dawn-ers tended to speak in that I cannot display emotion of any kind when I speak because that might lead people to believe that this incredible wisdom I'm laying on them was learned recently and is a new revelation for me, rather than something I was a master of before they were out of grade school tone of voice. :-) Charlie was a mildly entertaining charlatan. I always figured that the only reason TMers in L.A. flocked to see him was that his spiritual poseur act was at least more interesting than hearing Maharishi say the same old things on tape after tape after tape. I went to see him because his talks were the best place in town to pick up women. Most of them were TMers or TM teachers there for the same reason -- to hook up. :-) It reminds me of John Hagelin's endless rants on the Marshy channel - but without Hagelin's obvious insanity. Maybe there were just a lot of people about in those days that wanted to hear - a positive message, no matter how unlikely? They loved to hear him talk about the things that Maharishi *wouldn't* talk about. It didn't how silly or naive or insane these topics were, just as long as they were new and sounded vaguely spiritual. Maybe this explains the intensity of Hagelin's monologues, in Charlies day no one knew any better but now we have the benefit of hindsight, to keep banging on that the Golden Age is coming sounds positively demened. Poor old JH is trying to convince himself as well as us whereas Charlie probably believed it all... I'm honestly not sure how much of Charlie's jive he believed. I honestly got the overall vibe of a guy who has been telling the same stories for so long that it no longer *mattered* to him whether they were true or not. He just got off on telling them again, for any audience that would listen with rapt attention. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
I know people from that era who still think Charlie was hooked into some kind of special ascended master crap and therefore thinks he was some kind of special guy, even the ones who don't do TM anymore. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Having listened to a couple of tapes I think he sounds like an old time preacher crossed with any number of new age guru's. Maybe you had to be there to buy into whatever charisma he's supposed to have but he delivers his speeches like a second hand car dealer reading a script. I wouldn't say used car salesman vibe as much as I would Theosophical poseur vibe. Charlie -- from my perspective -- was pretty much a clone of every other male teacher I've ever encountered in the world of Western Mysticism. Used car salesmen actually display a little faux emotion in their pitches. Theosophists and Golden Dawn-ers tended to speak in that I cannot display emotion of any kind when I speak because that might lead people to believe that this incredible wisdom I'm laying on them was learned recently and is a new revelation for me, rather than something I was a master of before they were out of grade school tone of voice. :-) Charlie was a mildly entertaining charlatan. I always figured that the only reason TMers in L.A. flocked to see him was that his spiritual poseur act was at least more interesting than hearing Maharishi say the same old things on tape after tape after tape. I went to see him because his talks were the best place in town to pick up women. Most of them were TMers or TM teachers there for the same reason -- to hook up. :-) It reminds me of John Hagelin's endless rants on the Marshy channel - but without Hagelin's obvious insanity. Maybe there were just a lot of people about in those days that wanted to hear - a positive message, no matter how unlikely? They loved to hear him talk about the things that Maharishi *wouldn't* talk about. It didn't how silly or naive or insane these topics were, just as long as they were new and sounded vaguely spiritual. Maybe this explains the intensity of Hagelin's monologues, in Charlies day no one knew any better but now we have the benefit of hindsight, to keep banging on that the Golden Age is coming sounds positively demened. Poor old JH is trying to convince himself as well as us whereas Charlie probably believed it all... I'm honestly not sure how much of Charlie's jive he believed. I honestly got the overall vibe of a guy who has been telling the same stories for so long that it no longer *mattered* to him whether they were true or not. He just got off on telling them again, for any audience that would listen with rapt attention. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The dark knight of the soul
On 6/25/2014 11:01 PM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Lawson is in SC. Shill Consciousness. He doesn't even feel the need to get *paid* to parrot the stuff he's been told and to shill for the TM movement this embarrassingly. That's one of those how TM affects how the brain operates traits he never seems to talk about. :-) He may be a shill but you're still a stooge. Or, a lost soul? Maybe every single night is a/dark night of the soul /for Barry. Almost every day is a spiritual crises . Go figure. *From:* LEnglish5@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, June 25, 2014 9:04 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: The dark knight of the soul My response: Different practices have different effects. Most practices have the effect of fragmenting how the brain operates, as can be seen in the title of this 2010 paper, http://www.amaye.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/med-connectivity-EEG-tomog.pdf Reduced functional connectivity between cortical sources in five meditation traditions detected with lagged coherence using EEG tomography From the abstract: The globally reduced functional interdependence between brain regions in meditation suggests that interaction between the self process functions is minimized, and that constraints on the self process by other processes are minimized, thereby leading to the subjective experience of non-involvement, detachment and letting go, as well as of all-oneness and dissolution of ego borders during meditation. In other words, these practices reduce sense of self, which is celebrated as a good thing by many sects of Buddhism, which take the self s being Bad, Very Bad™. On the other hand, certain forms of meditation lead to the exact opposite effect, a higher level of integration of various cortical sources, *most especially* those having to do with sense of self. Transcendental Meditation, for example, has the exact opposite effect on EEG patterns in almost every respect when compared to mindfulness and concentration practices, and the very nature of enlightenment, as defined within TM-theory, has to do with first strengthening sense-of-self, and eventually integrating that sense with the overall activity of the brain. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10./nyas.12316/full Transcendental experiences during meditation practice While one can practice TM for too much, and too much is different for different people (for certain psychological disorders, any at all might be too much), the radical differences in how the brain operates during TM as compared to virtually all other meditation practices, suggests that a one-size-fits-all approach to explaining any observed adverse effects due to meditation is doomed to failure. For many Buddhists, TM's effect of strengthening sense of self during and after practice is repugnant, even appalling: the very opposite of spirituality. For TMers, practices that have the effect reducing connectivity and sense-of-self are considered to be damaging the nervous system on a subtle level, and are literally anti-enlightenment. Any attempt to conflate possible ill-effects from various practices without examining what the practices are actually meant to do, is doomed from the start. The very nature of the two approaches to spirituality are so opposed to each other, that fundamentally, what one approach calls best the other calls worst. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The Dark Knight of the Soul http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/06/the-dark-knight-of-the-souls/372766/ image http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/06/the-dark-knight-of-the-souls/372766/ The Dark Knight of the Soul http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/06/the-dark-knight-of-the-souls/372766/ For some, meditation has become more curse than cure. Willoughby Britton wants to know why. View on www.theatlantic.com http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/06/the-dark-knight-of-the-souls/372766/ Preview by Yahoo I am just reading this now and I have heard her talk before. Sounds quite interesting. I will admit that I had a very negative reaction (trying) to watch Jim Carrey's speech to the yellow hat crowd. I got 7 minutes into his talk and I started to feel sick so I shut it off. I then spent a few days just being overly emotional about my past in TM and it brought up bad feelings. It did not linger but my reactions caught me quite by surprise. Britton's work is about this experience and more.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Here's a little psychological experiment for FFLers...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : How many of you who take more than one nutritional supplement pill per day (for example, a multi-vitamin) can actually make it through this 16-minute takedown from John Oliver? The only reason I wouldn't make it is that I already heard an interview on CBC just two days ago all about this and in addition I have no interest in hearing it all again. Even if I had the time and the inclination to listen (again) it was not that ground-breaking or revelatory. This is an old story about people selling stuff to make money. This is not about hiding one's head in the sand, refusing to hear what you don't want to hear. Bawee, where do you get your ideas? Let's just blame it on the lurking reporters (hereon in referred to as the LR's) for putting you up to one more cockamaymee theory to try and get some action going on around here. My bet is that most tune out before then, because they would rather pay for a miracle cure in a pill than hear why and how the supplement industry has managed to become a 32 billion-dollars-per-year industry selling almost completely unregulated snake oil. When a group of DNA researchers recently DNA-tested supplements from a dozen North American companies, they found that one-third contained no trace whatsoever of the plant advertised on the bottle. If one in three milk bottles didn't contain milk, you might think twice about pouring the white mystery liquid all over your cereal. My favorite line re Dr. Oz himself: Name me one case where a man named Oz claimed mystical powers and led people horribly astray. John Oliver Takes Down Dr. Oz Over Nutritional Supplements http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements John Oliver Takes Down Dr. Oz Over Nutritional Supplem... http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements John Oliver outlines what exactly is problematic about Dr. Oz and the nutrition supplement industry. View on digg.com http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What you say about Guru Dev has been confirmed by Theosophists. According to Benjamin Creme, Guru Dev is indeed a Master of Masters having reached a stage of human development of 6.0 at the time of dropping the body in 1953. Most of the Masters in the Hierarchy are were between 4 and 5 at the end of Their last incarnation. Guru Dev is second in evolution only to the eldest known soul on this planet, today in incarnation with the name Maitreya who has a point of evolution of 7.0. To put it in perspective, most of the population in incarnation on earth today has not yet taken the first Initiation. How do these ratings get figured out and who does the rating? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It was my good fortune to hear Charlie speak several times a year on the east coast starting in the early '70s until his passing. Many of his predictions about future events have come to past. When speaking of Guru Dev, the two most often repeated phrases I heard Charlie Lutes use were (1) He was a Master of Masters (2) He was a Master of All Paths. He often followed by saying that because of this, only The Guru Dev could bring out Transcendental Meditation which (Charlie always insisted) was the highest teaching of this age.Charlie said the the future would belong to those who radiated peace and meditation and prayer.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I know people from that era who still think Charlie was hooked into some kind of special ascended master crap and therefore thinks he was some kind of special guy, even the ones who don't do TM anymore. They probably didn't experience Charlie getting bent behind an imagined offense and going somewhat crazy behind it, spending months trying to get the supposed wrongdoer fired from his job. I did. From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Having listened to a couple of tapes I think he sounds like an old time preacher crossed with any number of new age guru's. Maybe you had to be there to buy into whatever charisma he's supposed to have but he delivers his speeches like a second hand car dealer reading a script. I wouldn't say used car salesman vibe as much as I would Theosophical poseur vibe. Charlie -- from my perspective -- was pretty much a clone of every other male teacher I've ever encountered in the world of Western Mysticism. Used car salesmen actually display a little faux emotion in their pitches. Theosophists and Golden Dawn-ers tended to speak in that I cannot display emotion of any kind when I speak because that might lead people to believe that this incredible wisdom I'm laying on them was learned recently and is a new revelation for me, rather than something I was a master of before they were out of grade school tone of voice. :-) Charlie was a mildly entertaining charlatan. I always figured that the only reason TMers in L.A. flocked to see him was that his spiritual poseur act was at least more interesting than hearing Maharishi say the same old things on tape after tape after tape. I went to see him because his talks were the best place in town to pick up women. Most of them were TMers or TM teachers there for the same reason -- to hook up. :-) It reminds me of John Hagelin's endless rants on the Marshy channel - but without Hagelin's obvious insanity. Maybe there were just a lot of people about in those days that wanted to hear - a positive message, no matter how unlikely? They loved to hear him talk about the things that Maharishi *wouldn't* talk about. It didn't how silly or naive or insane these topics were, just as long as they were new and sounded vaguely spiritual. Maybe this explains the intensity of Hagelin's monologues, in Charlies day no one knew any better but now we have the benefit of hindsight, to keep banging on that the Golden Age is coming sounds positively demened. Poor old JH is trying to convince himself as well as us whereas Charlie probably believed it all... I'm honestly not sure how much of Charlie's jive he believed. I honestly got the overall vibe of a guy who has been telling the same stories for so long that it no longer *mattered* to him whether they were true or not. He just got off on telling them again, for any audience that would listen with rapt attention. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : The statement is a practical one - Charlie might have been a nice guy, but he was as benighted as Jerry Jarvis and all the other old timers who were wowed by Marshy's charisma. Had the Old Goat been sincere and dealt with the unstressing phenomena in a responsible way and really focused on the good of the world instead of who was warming his bed and how much praise and money he got, he really might have been able to change the world. As it was, he was just another huckster who was in it for himself and his own self pleasure, like Muktananda, Sai Baba and all the rest. Gee, I haven't heard this one before... And what's wrong with old goats? Who says they were wantonly permissive with their sexual favors? Where did that term come from anyway?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The best thing you can do is get a checking to rid your system of sarcasm. Will a checking cure me of my desire to state the bleeding obvious too? It sure cured Nabby of his ability to *notice* the bleeding obvious. :-) Is it time yet to call you the MBC and tell you to stop picking on Nabby or is that only reserved for women who pick on Share?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement
What you say about Guru Dev has been confirmed by Theosophists. According to Benjamin Creme, Guru Dev is indeed a Master of Masters having reached a stage of human development of 6.0 at the time of dropping the body in 1953. Most of the Masters in the Hierarchy are were between 4 and 5 at the end of Their last incarnation. Guru Dev is second in evolution only to the eldest known soul on this planet, today in incarnation with the name Maitreya who has a point of evolution of 7.0. To put it in perspective, most of the population in incarnation on earth today has not yet taken the first Initiation. How do these ratings get figured out and who does the rating? Silly wabbit. This esoteric and oh-so-special knowledge is transmitted to the oh-so-special knowers of reality who espouse it as the result of a secret initiation performed personally by Benjamin Creme himself. I dare not reveal all of the occult details of how this precious knowledge is transmitted to the deserving, but I can say that it involves bending over in a posture of humble supplication, and the judicious use of K-Y Jelly. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I know people from that era who still think Charlie was hooked into some kind of special ascended master crap and therefore thinks he was some kind of special guy, even the ones who don't do TM anymore. They probably didn't experience Charlie getting bent behind an imagined offense and going somewhat crazy behind it, spending months trying to get the supposed wrongdoer fired from his job. I did. Ohhh wow, how revelatory, how specific, how believable. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Having listened to a couple of tapes I think he sounds like an old time preacher crossed with any number of new age guru's. Maybe you had to be there to buy into whatever charisma he's supposed to have but he delivers his speeches like a second hand car dealer reading a script. I wouldn't say used car salesman vibe as much as I would Theosophical poseur vibe. Charlie -- from my perspective -- was pretty much a clone of every other male teacher I've ever encountered in the world of Western Mysticism. Used car salesmen actually display a little faux emotion in their pitches. Theosophists and Golden Dawn-ers tended to speak in that I cannot display emotion of any kind when I speak because that might lead people to believe that this incredible wisdom I'm laying on them was learned recently and is a new revelation for me, rather than something I was a master of before they were out of grade school tone of voice. :-) Charlie was a mildly entertaining charlatan. I always figured that the only reason TMers in L.A. flocked to see him was that his spiritual poseur act was at least more interesting than hearing Maharishi say the same old things on tape after tape after tape. I went to see him because his talks were the best place in town to pick up women. Most of them were TMers or TM teachers there for the same reason -- to hook up. :-) It reminds me of John Hagelin's endless rants on the Marshy channel - but without Hagelin's obvious insanity. Maybe there were just a lot of people about in those days that wanted to hear - a positive message, no matter how unlikely? They loved to hear him talk about the things that Maharishi *wouldn't* talk about. It didn't how silly or naive or insane these topics were, just as long as they were new and sounded vaguely spiritual. Maybe this explains the intensity of Hagelin's monologues, in Charlies day no one knew any better but now we have the benefit of hindsight, to keep banging on that the Golden Age is coming sounds positively demened. Poor old JH is trying to convince himself as well as us whereas Charlie probably believed it all... I'm honestly not sure how much of Charlie's jive he believed. I honestly got the overall vibe of a guy who has been telling the same stories for so long that it no longer *mattered* to him whether they were true or not. He just got off on telling them again, for any audience that would listen with rapt attention. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : What you say about Guru Dev has been confirmed by Theosophists. According to Benjamin Creme, Guru Dev is indeed a Master of Masters having reached a stage of human development of 6.0 at the time of dropping the body in 1953. Most of the Masters in the Hierarchy are were between 4 and 5 at the end of Their last incarnation. Guru Dev is second in evolution only to the eldest known soul on this planet, today in incarnation with the name Maitreya who has a point of evolution of 7.0. To put it in perspective, most of the population in incarnation on earth today has not yet taken the first Initiation. How do these ratings get figured out and who does the rating? Silly wabbit. This esoteric and oh-so-special knowledge is transmitted to the oh-so-special knowers of reality who espouse it as the result of a secret initiation performed personally by Benjamin Creme himself. I dare not reveal all of the occult details of how this precious knowledge is transmitted to the deserving, but I can say that it involves bending over in a posture of humble supplication, and the judicious use of K-Y Jelly. :-) Ok, good to know.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Only nitwits are interested in the obvious everyone else can see. Watch the tapes with Charlie Lutes and TRY to have a peek into the hidden. Not that I think it will give any meaning for you... 'It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances. The true mystery of the world is the visible, not the invisible. -- Oscar Wilde Mr Wilde would be rolling in his Parisienne grave knowing idiot bawee was using his words to illustrate some nitwit point about TM.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How to Find Aliens in Exoplanets
On 6/26/2014 12:12 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Your concept of ancient benign Buddhists of Tibet is a laughable display of incredible styoopid ignorance. You need to read some history of Tibetan Bon and Tibetan Buddhism and stop slime-slinging your ignorance all over everyone. The Westerners who know anything are quick to point this out. However, most of them have primitive ideas of how and why karma functions. Stoopid is as Styoopid is ... Fool! Dueling imbecile. Thinks book-learning makes him a man, makes him smart, makes him so cleverrr. Maybe he means to say that rather than being Buddhist pacifists, the Tibetans are war-mongering, shape-shifters bent on destroying world civilization. Sometimes he doesn't make any sense. Tibet, the Land of Bod.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Charlie Lutes and early TM movement
Like. On 6/26/2014 1:35 AM, mail_uzer wrote: It was my good fortune to hear Charlie speak several times a year on the east coast starting in the early '70s until his passing. Many of his predictions about future events have come to past. When speaking of Guru Dev, the two most often repeated phrases I heard Charlie Lutes use were (1) He was a Master of Masters (2) He was a Master of All Paths. He often followed by saying that because of this, only The Guru Dev could bring out Transcendental Meditation which (Charlie always insisted) was the highest teaching of this age.Charlie said the the future would belong to those who radiated peace and meditation and prayer.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
I admit that every quote of Oscar Wilde makes me love him more! So just for fun, I checked him out on the List of Initiates. I include a couple of others, also just for fun: Oscar Wilde, 1.6 Wordsworth 1.7 Natalie Wood 1.4 On Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:44 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Only nitwits are interested in the obvious everyone else can see. Watch the tapes with Charlie Lutes and TRY to have a peek into the hidden. Not that I think it will give any meaning for you... 'It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances. The true mystery of the world is the visible, not the invisible. -- Oscar Wilde
Re: [FairfieldLife] Here's a little psychological experiment for FFLers...
The war against self-medication - give all your money to conventional medicine. Don't even think of trying to use preventative or alternative ways of remaining healthy. Go figure. On 6/26/2014 1:54 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How many of you who take more than one nutritional supplement pill per day (for example, a multi-vitamin) can actually make it through this 16-minute takedown from John Oliver? My bet is that most tune out before then, because they would rather pay for a miracle cure in a pill than hear why and how the supplement industry has managed to become a 32 billion-dollars-per-year industry selling almost completely unregulated snake oil. When a group of DNA researchers recently DNA-tested supplements from a dozen Noif you're on rth American companies, they found that one-third contained no trace whatsoever of the plant advertised on the bottle. If one in three milk bottles didn't contain milk, you might think twice about pouring the white mystery liquid all over your cereal. My favorite line re Dr. Oz himself: Name me one case where a man named Oz claimed mystical powers and led people horribly astray. John Oliver Takes Down Dr. Oz Over Nutritional Supplements http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements image http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements John Oliver Takes Down Dr. Oz Over Nutritional Supplem... http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements John Oliver outlines what exactly is problematic about Dr. Oz and the nutrition supplement industry. View on digg.com http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Here's a little psychological experiment for FFLers...
I admit I love the word cockamamie. Go figure! (-: On Thursday, June 26, 2014 8:42 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : How many of you who take more than one nutritional supplement pill per day (for example, a multi-vitamin) can actually make it through this 16-minute takedown from John Oliver? The only reason I wouldn't make it is that I already heard an interview on CBC just two days ago all about this and in addition I have no interest in hearing it all again. Even if I had the time and the inclination to listen (again) it was not that ground-breaking or revelatory. This is an old story about people selling stuff to make money. This is not about hiding one's head in the sand, refusing to hear what you don't want to hear. Bawee, where do you get your ideas? Let's just blame it on the lurking reporters (hereon in referred to as the LR's) for putting you up to one more cockamaymee theory to try and get some action going on around here. My bet is that most tune out before then, because they would rather pay for a miracle cure in a pill than hear why and how the supplement industry has managed to become a 32 billion-dollars-per-year industry selling almost completely unregulated snake oil. When a group of DNA researchers recently DNA-tested supplements from a dozen North American companies, they found that one-third contained no trace whatsoever of the plant advertised on the bottle. If one in three milk bottles didn't contain milk, you might think twice about pouring the white mystery liquid all over your cereal. My favorite line re Dr. Oz himself: Name me one case where a man named Oz claimed mystical powers and led people horribly astray. John Oliver Takes Down Dr. Oz Over Nutritional Supplements John Oliver Takes Down Dr. Oz Over Nutritional Supplem... John Oliver outlines what exactly is problematic about Dr. Oz and the nutrition supplement industry. View on digg.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
On 6/26/2014 6:52 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? Bummer. It sure didn't take long for this thread to go to shit. Apparently Sal is not having a very good day, again. I wonder what he is up to that he gets in such a foul mood. You'd think something was wrong with him, but he won't say what it is so we could help him. Some people just can't resist posting comments about killing and watching violent movies - maybe that makes them feel better. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I admit that every quote of Oscar Wilde makes me love him more! So just for fun, I checked him out on the List of Initiates. I include a couple of others, also just for fun: Oscar Wilde, 1.6 Wordsworth 1.7 Natalie Wood 1.4 Just goes to show, this list isn't worth its salt. Maybe Mr Wilde didn't bend over far enough to rate higher. On Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:44 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Only nitwits are interested in the obvious everyone else can see. Watch the tapes with Charlie Lutes and TRY to have a peek into the hidden. Not that I think it will give any meaning for you... 'It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances. The true mystery of the world is the visible, not the invisible. -- Oscar Wilde
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
On 6/26/2014 7:18 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The best thing you can do is get a checking to rid your system of sarcasm. Will a checking cure me of my desire to state the bleeding obvious too? Sal is really taking this discussion down a peg or two - he sounds kind of paranoid and disgruntled, angry at someone. I hope he doesn't keep it bottled up inside himself - that could be dangerous if he decided to act on his bizarre thoughts. He sounds kind of depressed today. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
On 6/26/2014 7:18 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: And yet Charlie was fairly vocal in saying that Marshy made a mistake in teaching the TM Sidhi program. How do you account for that? He probably thought it was just too advanced for most people, like basic meditation is too advanced for some people. LoL! *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:39 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
On 6/26/2014 7:22 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The statement is a practical one - Charlie might have been a nice guy, but he was as benighted as Jerry Jarvis and all the other old timers who were wowed by Marshy's charisma. Had the Old Goat been sincere and dealt with the unstressing phenomena in a responsible way and really focused on the good of the world instead of who was warming his bed and how much praise and money he got, he really might have been able to change the world. As it was, he was just another huckster who was in it for himself and his own self pleasure, like Muktananda, Sai Baba and all the rest. You really got to work early this morning! *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 26, 2014 8:05 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube The best thing you can do is get a checking to rid your system of sarcasm. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
On 6/26/2014 7:42 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : The best thing you can do is get a checking to rid your system of sarcasm. Will a checking cure me of my desire to state the bleeding obvious too? It sure cured Nabby of his ability to *notice* the bleeding obvious. :-) Maybe it would cure your belief in levitation. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Richard Lang: New Interview on Buddha at the Gas Pump - 06/26/2014
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
On 6/26/2014 7:44 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Only nitwits are interested in the obvious everyone else can see. Watch the tapes with Charlie Lutes and TRY to have a peek into the hidden. Not that I think it will give any meaning for you... 'It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances. The true mystery of the world is the visible, not the invisible. -- Oscar Wilde I think I'm the only person here who has claimed to have witnessed real, hang-there-in-mid-air levitation. - Barry Wright Author: Robin Carlsen Subject: Eyewitness accounts of levitation that ring true Newsgroup: Yahoo! FairfieldLife Date: Thursday, 06 Sep 2012 06:43:55 -0700 http://tinyurl.com/q4ufjmu
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
Richard, once again imo Maharishi had a great insight. By presenting the sidhis as a way to develop mind body coordination. Simple, unglamorous, down to earth. Not to make a reverse pun ha ha! The traditional warning is that pursuit of special powers is dangerous to genuine spiritual progress. But life itself is the perfect guru for keeping one out of that quagmire of pride! On Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:17 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 6/26/2014 7:18 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: And yet Charlie was fairly vocal in saying that Marshy made a mistake in teaching the TM Sidhi program. How do you account for that? He probably thought it was just too advanced for most people, like basic meditation is too advanced for some people. LoL! From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
On 6/26/2014 8:50 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : The statement is a practical one - Charlie might have been a nice guy, but he was as benighted as Jerry Jarvis and all the other old timers who were wowed by Marshy's charisma. Had the Old Goat been sincere and dealt with the unstressing phenomena in a responsible way and really focused on the good of the world instead of who was warming his bed and how much praise and money he got, he really might have been able to change the world. As it was, he was just another huckster who was in it for himself and his own self pleasure, like Muktananda, Sai Baba and all the rest. Gee, I haven't heard this one before... And what's wrong with old goats? Who says they were wantonly permissive with their sexual favors? Where did that term come from anyway? You can tell who is old when they talk about where they've been - instead of where they are are going.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
On 6/26/2014 8:50 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I know people from that era who still think Charlie was hooked into some kind of special ascended master crap and therefore thinks he was some kind of special guy, even the ones who don't do TM anymore. They probably didn't experience Charlie getting bent behind an imagined offense and going somewhat crazy behind it, spending months trying to get the supposed wrongdoer fired from his job. I did. So, you got fired from your job at SIMS. I always thought so - you sucked at it. Go figure. *From:* TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:15 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube *From:* salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Having listened to a couple of tapes I think he sounds like an old time preacher crossed with any number of new age guru's. Maybe you had to be there to buy into whatever charisma he's supposed to have but he delivers his speeches like a second hand car dealer reading a script. I wouldn't say used car salesman vibe as much as I would Theosophical poseur vibe. Charlie -- from my perspective -- was pretty much a clone of every other male teacher I've ever encountered in the world of Western Mysticism. Used car salesmen actually display a little faux emotion in their pitches. Theosophists and Golden Dawn-ers tended to speak in that I cannot display emotion of any kind when I speak because that might lead people to believe that this incredible wisdom I'm laying on them was learned recently and is a new revelation for me, rather than something I was a master of before they were out of grade school tone of voice. :-) Charlie was a mildly entertaining charlatan. I always figured that the only reason TMers in L.A. flocked to see him was that his spiritual poseur act was at least more interesting than hearing Maharishi say the same old things on tape after tape after tape. I went to see him because his talks were the best place in town to pick up women. Most of them were TMers or TM teachers there for the same reason -- to hook up. :-) It reminds me of John Hagelin's endless rants on the Marshy channel - but without Hagelin's obvious insanity. Maybe there were just a lot of people about in those days that wanted to hear - a positive message, no matter how unlikely? They loved to hear him talk about the things that Maharishi *wouldn't* talk about. It didn't how silly or naive or insane these topics were, just as long as they were new and sounded vaguely spiritual. Maybe this explains the intensity of Hagelin's monologues, in Charlies day no one knew any better but now we have the benefit of hindsight, to keep banging on that the Golden Age is coming sounds positively demened. Poor old JH is trying to convince himself as well as us whereas Charlie probably believed it all... I'm honestly not sure how much of Charlie's jive he believed. I honestly got the overall vibe of a guy who has been telling the same stories for so long that it no longer *mattered* to him whether they were true or not. He just got off on telling them again, for any audience that would listen with rapt attention. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Harry Chapin's father!
I've written about this book before here on FFL, card. I also have written that Jim Chapin was Harry Chapin's father so that non-drummer folks here could relate. I also have written that I took drum lessons during the summer of 1962 which I spent in Seattle and my teacher, Dave Coleman, taught from Chapin's book. He also taught many other local drummers apparently including Mitch Mitchell. Coleman suggested that I try applying the patterns in the book to rock. Hence was born the Seattle Beat that emerged on records coming out of the Northwest from groups like the Wailers, the Sonics, Dave Lewis whose drummers all studied with Coleman. Coleman also suggested I try playing a double time swing pattern instead of straight eights for rock. That pissed off a lot of small town musicians I played with because it wasn't like the record! Of course I explained to them the record was what that drummer played on that particular take and of course that didn't endear much either. Apparently Jimi Hendrix didn't mind as Mitch Michell played like that on his albums. I taught many students from Chapin's book but later adopted Rick Latham's Advanced Funk Studies for students, even beginners. This book, like Chapin's, takes the student from very simple rock patterns to complex ones that top fusion drummers of the 1980s were playing. Students who went through that book with me could play about anything. On 06/26/2014 03:38 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer, Vol. I In the early 1940s, Chapin began working on a drum instruction book that was eventually published in 1948 as “Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer, Volume I, Coordinated Independence as Applied to Jazz and Be-Bop.” This book has been known as the definitive study on coordinated independence for jazz drummers. After the release of the book, he carried a pair of drumsticks in his back pocket at all times in case he was called upon to demonstrate a particularly difficult passage so as to prove that every pattern in the book could be played. Still in print today, it became known among drummers simply as “The Chapin Book.”^Jim Chapin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Chapin#cite_note-1 Jim Chapin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Chapin#cite_note-1 James Forbes Jim Chapin (July 23, 1919 – July 4, 2009) was an American (New York born and bred) jazz drummer and the author of popular texts on jazz drumming, the first two volumes of which are Advanced Techniques for the Modern Drummer, Vol. I, and Advance... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Chapin#cite_note-1 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
On 6/26/2014 10:38 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richard, once again imo Maharishi had a great insight. By presenting the sidhis as a way to develop mind body coordination. Simple, unglamorous, down to earth. Not to make a reverse pun ha ha! The traditional warning is that pursuit of special powers is dangerous to genuine spiritual progress. But life itself is the perfect guru for keeping one out of that quagmire of pride! That's what I'm saying! Look what happened to Barry after he witnessed the Rama levitation event - it sounds like it blew Barry's mind for years - he wrote a whole book about it. Obviously Barry was allowed to witness too much too soon, and it did him in - he may never get over his experience. I mean, look what just a basic meditation technique did to Barry - he's still talking about it 40 years after he tried it. Go figure. On Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:17 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: On 6/26/2014 7:18 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: And yet Charlie was fairly vocal in saying that Marshy made a mistake in teaching the TM Sidhi program. How do you account for that? He probably thought it was just too advanced for most people, like basic meditation is too advanced for some people. LoL! *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:39 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Here's a little psychological experiment for FFLers...
I certainly don't expect a court jester to understand the intricacies of biochemistry. In one of the Oz clips he is saying the substance may be the solution. I certainly wasn't expecting Oz to endorse biochemical individuality as he did in the test and clip I posted here a few weeks back. But that's the key. What he should have said to the panel was that there is no magical pill or cure because we are all individuals and have individual needs. Doctors hate the concept because it is too complicated. Complicated my ass, it is the basis of Indian ayurveda and Chinese medicine. Supplements work by biochemistry. Big pharma hates these little companies making money off cures that may only cost pennies a day. That means people are throwing away thousands on their over priced cures which often have more in common with snake oil than vitamin supplements. Can't sleep at night? Try a table of calcium before going to bed (sorta like drinking warm milk but without having gas if you are lactose intolerant). Multi-vitamins are one thing there are three classes of supplementation used for metabolic typing. Only the mixed oxidizer should be using the common multi vitamin and at that maybe a low potency one. Slow oxidizers need a different to speed up their oxidation rate while fast oxidizer need another to slow their's down. You can look up the subject online. So are you rooting for Big Pharma these days because you are being paid to write for them? On 06/25/2014 11:54 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How many of you who take more than one nutritional supplement pill per day (for example, a multi-vitamin) can actually make it through this 16-minute takedown from John Oliver? My bet is that most tune out before then, because they would rather pay for a miracle cure in a pill than hear why and how the supplement industry has managed to become a 32 billion-dollars-per-year industry selling almost completely unregulated snake oil. When a group of DNA researchers recently DNA-tested supplements from a dozen North American companies, they found that one-third contained no trace whatsoever of the plant advertised on the bottle. If one in three milk bottles didn't contain milk, you might think twice about pouring the white mystery liquid all over your cereal. My favorite line re Dr. Oz himself: Name me one case where a man named Oz claimed mystical powers and led people horribly astray. John Oliver Takes Down Dr. Oz Over Nutritional Supplements http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements image http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements John Oliver Takes Down Dr. Oz Over Nutritional Supplem... http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements John Oliver outlines what exactly is problematic about Dr. Oz and the nutrition supplement industry. View on digg.com http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
1.6 for Oscar Wild is pretty good actually and more than I expected. When checking the list you will find that many world famous artists was round-about the same point of evolution when they popped, and it is far, far above average for mankind. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : I admit that every quote of Oscar Wilde makes me love him more! So just for fun, I checked him out on the List of Initiates. I include a couple of others, also just for fun: Oscar Wilde, 1.6 Wordsworth 1.7 Natalie Wood 1.4 Just goes to show, this list isn't worth its salt. Maybe Mr Wilde didn't bend over far enough to rate higher. On Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:44 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Only nitwits are interested in the obvious everyone else can see. Watch the tapes with Charlie Lutes and TRY to have a peek into the hidden. Not that I think it will give any meaning for you... 'It is only shallow people who do not judge by appearances. The true mystery of the world is the visible, not the invisible. -- Oscar Wilde
[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement
They are from Benjamin Creme's Master, His name is well known in esoteric circles but as yet undisclosed for the public. Anyone can send Mr. Creme a question about the evolution of a deceased and it will be published if he finds the result to be of public interest. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What you say about Guru Dev has been confirmed by Theosophists. According to Benjamin Creme, Guru Dev is indeed a Master of Masters having reached a stage of human development of 6.0 at the time of dropping the body in 1953. Most of the Masters in the Hierarchy are were between 4 and 5 at the end of Their last incarnation. Guru Dev is second in evolution only to the eldest known soul on this planet, today in incarnation with the name Maitreya who has a point of evolution of 7.0. To put it in perspective, most of the population in incarnation on earth today has not yet taken the first Initiation. How do these ratings get figured out and who does the rating? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It was my good fortune to hear Charlie speak several times a year on the east coast starting in the early '70s until his passing. Many of his predictions about future events have come to past. When speaking of Guru Dev, the two most often repeated phrases I heard Charlie Lutes use were (1) He was a Master of Masters (2) He was a Master of All Paths. He often followed by saying that because of this, only The Guru Dev could bring out Transcendental Meditation which (Charlie always insisted) was the highest teaching of this age.Charlie said the the future would belong to those who radiated peace and meditation and prayer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement
So are you part of the 'undisclosed for the public', or do you travel in esoteric circles, and thus know the name? I suppose you hang out on websites like this: The 'Christ' of the United Nations - thru Benjamin Creme, page 1 http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread841602/pg1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : They are from Benjamin Creme's Master, His name is well known in esoteric circles but as yet undisclosed for the public. Anyone can send Mr. Creme a question about the evolution of a deceased and it will be published if he finds the result to be of public interest.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Here's a little psychological experiment for FFLers...
It's all about Codex Alimentarius or centralized control over your choice of food and supplements. IOW, super Nanny state stuff and very popular with GMO companies and Big Pharma. A conspiracy theory? Here's their website: http://www.codexalimentarius.org/ The comedian is doing a rap that will give him the widest audience: the great unwashed. If had defended Oz he would have had tomatoes thrown at him. That's Mass Media 101 and wiser minds don't fall for it. On 06/26/2014 08:06 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: The war against self-medication - give all your money to conventional medicine. Don't even think of trying to use preventative or alternative ways of remaining healthy. Go figure. On 6/26/2014 1:54 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How many of you who take more than one nutritional supplement pill per day (for example, a multi-vitamin) can actually make it through this 16-minute takedown from John Oliver? My bet is that most tune out before then, because they would rather pay for a miracle cure in a pill than hear why and how the supplement industry has managed to become a 32 billion-dollars-per-year industry selling almost completely unregulated snake oil. When a group of DNA researchers recently DNA-tested supplements from a dozen Noif you're on rth American companies, they found that one-third contained no trace whatsoever of the plant advertised on the bottle. If one in three milk bottles didn't contain milk, you might think twice about pouring the white mystery liquid all over your cereal. My favorite line re Dr. Oz himself: Name me one case where a man named Oz claimed mystical powers and led people horribly astray. John Oliver Takes Down Dr. Oz Over Nutritional Supplements http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements image http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements John Oliver Takes Down Dr. Oz Over Nutritional Supplem... http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements John Oliver outlines what exactly is problematic about Dr. Oz and the nutrition supplement industry. View on digg.com http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements Preview by Yahoo
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[FairfieldLife] Using open source everything to defeat the corporate overlords
I've often said that open source should go beyond just computers. There's a (very long) article about it from the UK Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jun/19/open-source-revolution-conquer-one-percent-cia-spy
[FairfieldLife] Sports vs. Reality: poignant World Cup-themed ad
Why British women wanted the UK to not get knocked out of the World Cup early: Woman's reaction to England World Cup knockout Woman's reaction to England World Cup knockout View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Using open source everything to defeat the corporate overlords
On 6/26/2014 1:37 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: I've often said that open source should go beyond just computers. There's a (very long) article about it from the UK Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jun/19/open-source-revolution-conquer-one-percent-cia-spy The NSA is opposed to open source and all forms of encryption. Look what happened to Aaron Swartz. In the future, the programmer will be a God controlled by the government. All you have to do to control the society is follow the numbers and then execute a file. In the future, you may be eliminated by the simple press of a button - even now people can be /un-friended/ in social media. The three most popular passwords are: /password, sex/, and /god/ - not particularly in that order. But, there will probably always be Hackers - the /Prophets of Information Technology./ So, if you are a hacker, it would be against the /Hacker Code/ to not share your data and code with the rest of the world - to save mankind from ignorance - a /moral imperitive for the Hacker/. The Hacker's world view is basic /libertarianism/. Hackers fear fear that powerful individuals are taking over the internet and controlling our thoughts through the media, violating our privacy, all the while posting reams of information about themselves and propaganda. The underlying philosophy is the Hacker belief that everything can be perfected if everyone could just tap into the almost unlimited and vast trove of knowledge on the internet. Go figure. /Because he knows the power of the technology he has mastered, he knows how distressingly fragile the barrier is between freedom and censorship---it's a simple matter of who writes the code./ 'So Open It Hurts' What the Internet did to Aaron Swartz New Republic: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ala5v77
Re: [FairfieldLife] Here's a little psychological experiment for FFLers...
On 6/26/2014 11:11 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: I certainly don't expect a court jester to understand the intricacies of biochemistry. In one of the Oz clips he is saying the substance may be the solution. I certainly wasn't expecting Oz to endorse biochemical individuality as he did in the test and clip I posted here a few weeks back. But that's the key. What he should have said to the panel was that there is no magical pill or cure because we are all individuals and have individual needs. Doctors hate the concept because it is too complicated. Complicated my ass, it is the basis of Indian ayurveda and Chinese medicine. Supplements work by biochemistry. Big pharma hates these little companies making money off cures that may only cost pennies a day. That means people are throwing away thousands on their over priced cures which often have more in common with snake oil than vitamin supplements. Can't sleep at night? Try a table of calcium before going to bed (sorta like drinking warm milk but without having gas if you are lactose intolerant). Multi-vitamins are one thing there are three classes of supplementation used for metabolic typing. Only the mixed oxidizer should be using the common multi vitamin and at that maybe a low potency one. Slow oxidizers need a different to speed up their oxidation rate while fast oxidizer need another to slow their's down. You can look up the subject online. So are you rooting for Big Pharma these days because you are being paid to write for them? It's a classic case of propaganda dis-information. If you could heal yourself, or even prevent an ailment before it starts, that would take away millions of dollars in possible graft to politicians, doctors and manufacturers. If you're getting paid to write science articles you're probably not going to want to submit any anecdotal stories about people healing themselves. You'd probably get fired - look what happened to Andrew Skolnick, the science writer. Go figure. On 06/25/2014 11:54 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: How many of you who take more than one nutritional supplement pill per day (for example, a multi-vitamin) can actually make it through this 16-minute takedown from John Oliver? My bet is that most tune out before then, because they would rather pay for a miracle cure in a pill than hear why and how the supplement industry has managed to become a 32 billion-dollars-per-year industry selling almost completely unregulated snake oil. When a group of DNA researchers recently DNA-tested supplements from a dozen North American companies, they found that one-third contained no trace whatsoever of the plant advertised on the bottle. If one in three milk bottles didn't contain milk, you might think twice about pouring the white mystery liquid all over your cereal. My favorite line re Dr. Oz himself: Name me one case where a man named Oz claimed mystical powers and led people horribly astray. John Oliver Takes Down Dr. Oz Over Nutritional Supplements http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements image http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements John Oliver Takes Down Dr. Oz Over Nutritional Supplem... http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements John Oliver outlines what exactly is problematic about Dr. Oz and the nutrition supplement industry. View on digg.com http://digg.com/video/john-oliver-takes-down-dr-oz-over-nutritional-supplements Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : They are from Benjamin Creme's Master, His name is well known in esoteric circles but as yet undisclosed for the public. Anyone can send Mr. Creme a question about the evolution of a deceased and it will be published if he finds the result to be of public interest. As he holds public meetings in London every month I may go along and ask him myself, should be a fun night. I know the place well, it's just down the road from where the Committee for Investigating Scientific Claims Of the Paranormal (CISCOP) used to hold conferences. I wonder if they ever bumped into each other? Or even if he used to come along! We had a lot of (serious) fun trying to prove telepathy and psychokinesis, would've been easy meat for The Master. I am curious to know whether Mr Creme regrets claiming that he can personally vouch for the authenticity of George Adamski's encounters with aliens in UFO's from Venus. It seems he backed a losing horse in that race, one wonders if his conviction about Maitreya is based on such flimsy conviction? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : What you say about Guru Dev has been confirmed by Theosophists. According to Benjamin Creme, Guru Dev is indeed a Master of Masters having reached a stage of human development of 6.0 at the time of dropping the body in 1953. Most of the Masters in the Hierarchy are were between 4 and 5 at the end of Their last incarnation. Guru Dev is second in evolution only to the eldest known soul on this planet, today in incarnation with the name Maitreya who has a point of evolution of 7.0. To put it in perspective, most of the population in incarnation on earth today has not yet taken the first Initiation. How do these ratings get figured out and who does the rating? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : It was my good fortune to hear Charlie speak several times a year on the east coast starting in the early '70s until his passing. Many of his predictions about future events have come to past. When speaking of Guru Dev, the two most often repeated phrases I heard Charlie Lutes use were (1) He was a Master of Masters (2) He was a Master of All Paths. He often followed by saying that because of this, only The Guru Dev could bring out Transcendental Meditation which (Charlie always insisted) was the highest teaching of this age.Charlie said the the future would belong to those who radiated peace and meditation and prayer.
[FairfieldLife] Re: More Braco
You can never have enough Braco! I do have a DVD problem actually, my player can't show how much time is remaining on individual chapters, which I always thought was a bit crap for an expensive machine. So I've left my laptop open with Braco staring at it while I watch a movie. Work your magic oh awakened one! A full report in the morning. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Need your cat healed, or your DVD fixed? Go see Braco, and allow him to gaze upon you. This Man's Gaze Is Harmful to Pregnant Women http://gawker.com/this-mans-gaze-is-harmful-to-pregnant-women-1595615723 http://gawker.com/this-mans-gaze-is-harmful-to-pregnant-women-1595615723 This Man's Gaze Is Harmful to Pregnant Women http://gawker.com/this-mans-gaze-is-harmful-to-pregnant-women-1595615723 My mom's cat was dying, a woman in a white blouse dotted with holographic silver sequins explains. (I live in a community of healers, she told me earlier, in th... View on gawker.com http://gawker.com/this-mans-gaze-is-harmful-to-pregnant-women-1595615723 Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: What If?
What if you woke up one morning and found out that the borders of the U.S. had not been secured? Obama administration officials claim the frontier is more secure than ever... 'Immigration reform's first hurdle: Is the border secure?' Los Angeles Times: http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-ff-secure-border-20130310-dto-htmlstory.html After previously saying America's borders are more secure than ever, the White House on Tuesday seemingly blamed Republicans for apparent holes along the southern boundary... 'White House now faults Republicans for weak border security' Washington Times: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/24/obama-blames-republicans-poor-border-security/ On 6/25/2014 4:04 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that the IRS had become weaponized? ...if the administration didn't target opponents, that would mean the IRS has become corrupt all on its own. Go figure. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/380812/bureaucrats-bureaucrats-bureaucrats-jonah-goldberg 'IRS Admits Wrongdoing, to Pay $50,000 in Leaking of Marriage Group's Tax Return' http://dailysignal.com/2014/06/24/irs-admits-wrongdoing-pay-5-leaking-marriage-groups-tax-return/ On 6/24/2014 10:54 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up in the morning and found out that the IRS was incompetent? 'However, Rep. Scott Desjarlais, R-Tenn. pointed out that $10-to-30 million was not much compared to the $89 million the IRS paid in bonuses last year, including $1 million to employees who actually owed back taxes.' http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/irs-chief-scorched-as-liar/ On 6/20/2014 1:28 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that the FBI was going to subpoena all your Google searches on your home computer and mobile devices looking for searches about /how to destroy your hard drive?/ http://www.bloombergview.com/irs-conspiracy/ http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-19/an-irs-conspiracy-not-likely-yet On 6/20/2014 12:24 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: /What if/ you woke up one morning and found out you were being audited by the IRS and that two years of your emails to the agency, which might prove your case, were found to be missing because of a computer hard drive crash; and what if seven other agency hard drives had crashed at the same time; and what if the email back-server for the agency had failed at the same time; and what if the magnetic tape backup of the backup had also failed? /And, what if/ you woke up the next morning and the agency told you that your failed hard drive had been thrown in the trash? There were audible gasps in the room today when IRS Commissioner John Koskinen told Congress that Lerner's hard drive was tossed out. Koskinen testified before the House Ways and Means Committee today on the IRS conservative targeting scandal. /'Audience GASPS As IRS Commissioner Admits Missing Lois Lerner Hard Drive Was Trashed'/ Gateway Pundit: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/audience-gasps-as-irs-commissioner-admits-missing-lois-lerner-hard-drive-was-trashed/ http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06/audience-gasps-as-irs-commissioner-admits-missing-lois-lerner-hard-drive-was-trashed-video/ On 6/19/2014 9:00 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up in the morning and the price for a gallon of gasoline at the pump was at $10.00? What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that Canada had almost completed a pipeline to deliver oil to Asia instead of to Canada and the U.S.? What if you woke up in the morning and your power had been cut off? What if you woke up in the morning and you realized that everything was much worse than you thought? How much worse? Ten times worse. Go figure. 'Iraq: Why It's Worse Than You Think' http://oilandgas-investments.com/2014/oil-prices/iraq-why-its-worse-than-you-think/ On 6/18/2014 9:51 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up one morning and the IRS had lost all your records and all your emails for the last two years? What if six IRS hard drives had crashed and all the records were just gone, disappeared? I wonder what would happen to the IT guy in charge of the servers at the IRS data center? What if the IRS Commissioner was called in before the U.S. Congress to testify under oath about the mysterious data loss? What if you were audited by the IRS and your records were given to the FBI? Go figure. 'Missing E-Mail Is the Least of the IRS's Problems' Bloomberg: http://www.bloombergview.com/missing-e-mail/ http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-17/missing-e-mail-is-the-least-of-the-irs-s-problems On 6/12/2014 9:30 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you opened your local newspaper and read that the recent surge of unauthorized immigrants from Central America was caused by the U.S. President and his administration failing to enforce immigration laws? And, that by
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement
It's Maitreya, a non-existent master, communication with whom Benjy has parlayed into a minor living off the extremely gullible fringe of the New Age movement. Maitreya is supposed to be a bodhisattva who is scheduled to appear on earth 5,000 years after the original Buddha. Which means in another 2500 years. After Helena Blavatsky died and the Theosophical Society split up in part over the controversy over Jiddu Krisnamurti whom the idiots who were running the TS in those days declared as the vehicle of the soon to manifest Maitreya (who said he was not and dropped out) and the controversy over CW Leadbeater who had a penchant for teenage boys. Leadbeater was the one who supposedly discovered Jiddu Krisnamurti and he and Alice Bailey claimed all kinds of crap about Maitreya coming to earth soon even tho the original Buddhists claims are for the future. Benjy Creme who was a student of Bailey saw an opportunity for a gravy train and appropriated her and Leadbeater's teachings about the non-existent world teacher although as Baily, Leadbeater and now Creme describe him, he seems to no longer be a Buddha. All fake, made up bullshit. From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 2:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement So are you part of the 'undisclosed for the public', or do you travel in esoteric circles, and thus know the name? I suppose you hang out on websites like this: The 'Christ' of the United Nations - thru Benjamin Creme, page 1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : They are from Benjamin Creme's Master, His name is well known in esoteric circles but as yet undisclosed for the public. Anyone can send Mr. Creme a question about the evolution of a deceased and it will be published if he finds the result to be of public interest.
[FairfieldLife] Maharishi's notorious womanizing cave...
One minute and 25 seconds into this video, you can see David Lynch sitting in Maharishi's cave underneath his house, where Mia Farrow said Maharishi put his arms around her implying he was going to have sex with her... Was there another cave, or was Ms Farrow merely unstressing mightily? It would be almost impossible for two people to stand up in that place without one person touching the other, or so it seems to me. New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footsteps from North to South India and the start of the TM movement http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footste... http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ It's a Beautiful World is film by Richard Beymer of David Lynch retracing his Master's footsteps throughout India, when Maharishi left the Silence of the Hi... View on theuncarvedb... http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: More Braco
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com You can never have enough Braco! I do have a DVD problem actually, my player can't show how much time is remaining on individual chapters, which I always thought was a bit crap for an expensive machine. So I've left my laptop open with Braco staring at it while I watch a movie. Work your magic oh awakened one! A full report in the morning. You can never underestimate the power of the placebo effect. I once drove my old Saab 96 up to Santa Barbara to see Maharishi, and parked it near one of the entrances to the apartment complex that served as MIU at the time. When I parked the car, it was gasping, barely able to function. I wasn't sure whether it would start again to get me home. We didn't get to see Maharishi talk, but afterwards he walked through a line of devotees handing him flowers, and right past my car. After the whole shebang was over and I went back to my car, it started the first time, and ran perfectly. Miracle, thought I, in my blissed-out TB state of mind at the time. A few days later, when the miracle wore off and I took the car into the shop, the mechanic explained to me that the problem was due to overheating. Allow the car to cool down, as it had during the time it was parked there in Santa Barbara, and the problem goes away. For a while. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Need your cat healed, or your DVD fixed? Go see Braco, and allow him to gaze upon you. This Man's Gaze Is Harmful to Pregnant Women This Man's Gaze Is Harmful to Pregnant Women My mom's cat was dying, a woman in a white blouse dotted with holographic silver sequins explains. (I live in a community of healers, she told me earlier, in th... View on gawker.com Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement
Never seen that website and get my info here: Share International on the Reappearance of Maitreya the World Teacher http://shareintl.org/ http://shareintl.org/ Share International on the Reappearance of Maitreya t... http://shareintl.org/ About the gradual emergence of Maitreya, the World Teacher and the Masters of Wisdom View on shareintl.org http://shareintl.org/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : So are you part of the 'undisclosed for the public', or do you travel in esoteric circles, and thus know the name? I'm part of the public. I suppose you hang out on websites like this: The 'Christ' of the United Nations - thru Benjamin Creme, page 1 http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread841602/pg1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : They are from Benjamin Creme's Master, His name is well known in esoteric circles but as yet undisclosed for the public. Anyone can send Mr. Creme a question about the evolution of a deceased and it will be published if he finds the result to be of public interest.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's notorious womanizing cave...
Nonsense. The incident you are refferring to, and which both Mia and her sister have seriously downplayed happened in Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : One minute and 25 seconds into this video, you can see David Lynch sitting in Maharishi's cave underneath his house, where Mia Farrow said Maharishi put his arms around her implying he was going to have sex with her... Was there another cave, or was Ms Farrow merely unstressing mightily? It would be almost impossible for two people to stand up in that place without one person touching the other, or so it seems to me. New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footsteps from North to South India and the start of the TM movement http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footste... http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ It's a Beautiful World is film by Richard Beymer of David Lynch retracing his Master's footsteps throughout India, when Maharishi left the Silence of the Hi... View on theuncarvedb... http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Using open source everything to defeat the corporate overlords
On 06/26/2014 11:59 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 6/26/2014 1:37 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: I've often said that open source should go beyond just computers. There's a (very long) article about it from the UK Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jun/19/open-source-revolution-conquer-one-percent-cia-spy The NSA is opposed to open source and all forms of encryption. Look what happened to Aaron Swartz. In the future, the programmer will be a God controlled by the government. All you have to do to control the society is follow the numbers and then execute a file. In the future, you may be eliminated by the simple press of a button - even now people can be /un-friended/ in social media. The three most popular passwords are: /password, sex/, and /god/ - not particularly in that order. But, there will probably always be Hackers - the /Prophets of Information Technology./ So, if you are a hacker, it would be against the /Hacker Code/ to not share your data and code with the rest of the world - to save mankind from ignorance - a /moral imperitive for the Hacker/. The Hacker's world view is basic /libertarianism/. Hackers fear fear that powerful individuals are taking over the internet and controlling our thoughts through the media, violating our privacy, all the while posting reams of information about themselves and propaganda. The underlying philosophy is the Hacker belief that everything can be perfected if everyone could just tap into the almost unlimited and vast trove of knowledge on the internet. Go figure. Programmers in the 1980s were basically apolitical. It was just something they didn't care much about. Libertarianism sounded good to some of them so they adopted it not knowing about the different schools of libertarianism. I used to have fun giving an Ayn Rand school BBS fits. :-D However I was already political in the 1980s and being raised by a politically active family was since childhood. Since I grew up in the arts the First Amendment was very important to me and I see it as a liberal issue. /Because he knows the power of the technology he has mastered, he knows how distressingly fragile the barrier is between freedom and censorship---it's a simple matter of who writes the code./ 'So Open It Hurts' What the Internet did to Aaron Swartz New Republic: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ala5v77
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's notorious womanizing cave...
There are moments that almost make the time-suck black hole of FFL worthwhile. Seeing Nabby feel the need to call Lawson on overdoing it in the service of cult apologetics is one of those moments. :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Nonsense. The incident you are refferring to, and which both Mia and her sister have seriously downplayed happened in Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : One minute and 25 seconds into this video, you can see David Lynch sitting in Maharishi's cave underneath his house, where Mia Farrow said Maharishi put his arms around her implying he was going to have sex with her... Was there another cave, or was Ms Farrow merely unstressing mightily? It would be almost impossible for two people to stand up in that place without one person touching the other, or so it seems to me. New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footsteps from North to South India and the start of the TM movement New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footste... It's a Beautiful World is film by Richard Beymer of David Lynch retracing his Master's footsteps throughout India, when Maharishi left the Silence of the Hi... View on theuncarvedb... Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
Because Charley believed the modern tradition. You don't find the same warnings about Yogic Flying and other Siddhis in older sources, as far as I can tell. In fact, the Shiva Samhita says that practice of Yogic Flying destroys the darkness of the world. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Charlie was fairly vocal in saying that Marshy made a mistake in teaching the TM Sidhi program. How do you account for that? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : Now Nabby, on this website it says 'Maitreya has now given a series of 130 television interviews (As of 7 April 2014) http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2014/2014-05.htm#TV130, And as he lives in the Asian community of west London he should be very easy to find! and more are expected to take place in the Americas, Japan, Europe and the rest of the world. Maitreya’s open mission has begun.' So how come we cannot find any of these interviews? Virtually everything broadcast these days on television or cable is recorded, and quite frequently ends up on various video websites. I could say I gave 130 interviews, but without any indication of when and where they took place, who the interviewer was, what organisation or company did the interview etc., who would believe it? Creme seems to assume a high level of credulity among his fans. And because very few people know who I am (in fact only I know who I am), who would be interested anyway? I am just wondering why you believe this so strongly. In these spiritual matters, a certain degree of incredulity is required to just begin to sort fact from fancy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, na...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Never seen that website and get my info here: Share International on the Reappearance of Maitreya the World Teacher http://shareintl.org/ http://shareintl.org/ Share International on the Reappearance of Maitreya t... http://shareintl.org/ About the gradual emergence of Maitreya, the World Teacher and the Masters of Wisdom View on shareintl.org http://shareintl.org/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : So are you part of the 'undisclosed for the public', or do you travel in esoteric circles, and thus know the name? I'm part of the public. I suppose you hang out on websites like this: The 'Christ' of the United Nations - thru Benjamin Creme, page 1 http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread841602/pg1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : They are from Benjamin Creme's Master, His name is well known in esoteric circles but as yet undisclosed for the public. Anyone can send Mr. Creme a question about the evolution of a deceased and it will be published if he finds the result to be of public interest.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement
Now Nabby, on this website it says 'Maitreya has now given a series of 130 television interviews (As of 7 April 2014) http://www.share-international.org/magazine/old_issues/2014/2014-05.htm#TV130, and more are expected to take place in the Americas, Japan, Europe and the rest of the world. Maitreya’s open mission has begun.' So how come we cannot find any of these interviews? Virtually everything broadcast these days on television or cable is recorded, and quite frequently ends up on various video websites. I could say I gave 130 interviews, but without any indication of when and where they took place, who the interviewer was, what organisation or company did the interview etc., who would believe it? Creme seems to assume a high level of credulity among his fans. And because very few people know who I am (in fact only I know who I am), who would be interested anyway? I am just wondering why you believe this so strongly. In these spiritual matters, a certain degree of incredulity is required to just begin to sort fact from fancy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, na...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Never seen that website and get my info here: Share International on the Reappearance of Maitreya the World Teacher http://shareintl.org/ http://shareintl.org/ Share International on the Reappearance of Maitreya t... http://shareintl.org/ About the gradual emergence of Maitreya, the World Teacher and the Masters of Wisdom View on shareintl.org http://shareintl.org/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : So are you part of the 'undisclosed for the public', or do you travel in esoteric circles, and thus know the name? I'm part of the public. I suppose you hang out on websites like this: The 'Christ' of the United Nations - thru Benjamin Creme, page 1 http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread841602/pg1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : They are from Benjamin Creme's Master, His name is well known in esoteric circles but as yet undisclosed for the public. Anyone can send Mr. Creme a question about the evolution of a deceased and it will be published if he finds the result to be of public interest.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
What do you consider the modern tradition? The Shiva Samhita is generally thought to have been composed somewhere between 1600 to 1800 CE though one translator thinks it was composed perhaps around 1500 CE. This is hardly an old document, having been written long after the classic Vedic works. For example Yoga Vashistha, which was written somewhere between 900 to 1300, claims powers should not be pursued if you are on a path of self knowledge. The Yoga Sutras themselves were written somewhere between 100 and 500 CE. You know, it has never been clear to me whether Patanjali (or its author if not really Patanjali) was simply describing these things as a matter of knowledge, or actually recommending them as a practice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Because Charley believed the modern tradition. You don't find the same warnings about Yogic Flying and other Siddhis in older sources, as far as I can tell. In fact, the Shiva Samhita says that practice of Yogic Flying destroys the darkness of the world. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Charlie was fairly vocal in saying that Marshy made a mistake in teaching the TM Sidhi program. How do you account for that? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
That was a bit flippant of me, wasn't it? Cardmeister has already gone into detail about how different commentators interpret the warning differently. The most straightforward interpretation is that only the sense-related siddhis are impediments to samadhi. Maharishi takes a broader view, and assumes the warning applies to all the siddhis, but he doesn't consider it a warning in the sense that other people do. Charlie Lutes appears to simply have assumed that the traditional interpretation was right and MMY was wrong. End of story. But Fred Travis' research shows that practicing them produces an enhanced version of the same EEG pattern associated with pure consciousness, and that video I linked to earlier shows a before/after segment of someone who had been on teh Invicincible America course for 2+ years, and how much more enhanced the frontal EEG coherence was in the after picture when they were simply practicing TM. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : What do you consider the modern tradition? The Shiva Samhita is generally thought to have been composed somewhere between 1600 to 1800 CE though one translator thinks it was composed perhaps around 1500 CE. This is hardly an old document, having been written long after the classic Vedic works. For example Yoga Vashistha, which was written somewhere between 900 to 1300, claims powers should not be pursued if you are on a path of self knowledge. The Yoga Sutras themselves were written somewhere between 100 and 500 CE. You know, it has never been clear to me whether Patanjali (or its author if not really Patanjali) was simply describing these things as a matter of knowledge, or actually recommending them as a practice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Because Charley believed the modern tradition. You don't find the same warnings about Yogic Flying and other Siddhis in older sources, as far as I can tell. In fact, the Shiva Samhita says that practice of Yogic Flying destroys the darkness of the world. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Charlie was fairly vocal in saying that Marshy made a mistake in teaching the TM Sidhi program. How do you account for that? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
Personally, I am glad I had done TM, and some rounding, before I was exposed to the TM-Siddhis Programme. Without that foundation, built from meditation, the experiences can be a bit unsettling, to say the least. I would not mess around with sidhis, without that initial stability. With it, no worries. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : That was a bit flippant of me, wasn't it? Cardmeister has already gone into detail about how different commentators interpret the warning differently. The most straightforward interpretation is that only the sense-related siddhis are impediments to samadhi. Maharishi takes a broader view, and assumes the warning applies to all the siddhis, but he doesn't consider it a warning in the sense that other people do. Charlie Lutes appears to simply have assumed that the traditional interpretation was right and MMY was wrong. End of story. But Fred Travis' research shows that practicing them produces an enhanced version of the same EEG pattern associated with pure consciousness, and that video I linked to earlier shows a before/after segment of someone who had been on teh Invicincible America course for 2+ years, and how much more enhanced the frontal EEG coherence was in the after picture when they were simply practicing TM. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : What do you consider the modern tradition? The Shiva Samhita is generally thought to have been composed somewhere between 1600 to 1800 CE though one translator thinks it was composed perhaps around 1500 CE. This is hardly an old document, having been written long after the classic Vedic works. For example Yoga Vashistha, which was written somewhere between 900 to 1300, claims powers should not be pursued if you are on a path of self knowledge. The Yoga Sutras themselves were written somewhere between 100 and 500 CE. You know, it has never been clear to me whether Patanjali (or its author if not really Patanjali) was simply describing these things as a matter of knowledge, or actually recommending them as a practice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Because Charley believed the modern tradition. You don't find the same warnings about Yogic Flying and other Siddhis in older sources, as far as I can tell. In fact, the Shiva Samhita says that practice of Yogic Flying destroys the darkness of the world. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Charlie was fairly vocal in saying that Marshy made a mistake in teaching the TM Sidhi program. How do you account for that? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
George: I think it moved. Jerry: Moved? George: It may have moved, I don't know. Jerry: I'm sure it didn't move. George: It moved! It was imperceptible but I felt it. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com I know people from that era who still think Charlie was hooked into some kind of special ascended master crap and therefore thinks he was some kind of special guy, even the ones who don't do TM anymore. They probably didn't experience Charlie getting bent behind an imagined offense and going somewhat crazy behind it, spending months trying to get the supposed wrongdoer fired from his job. I did. Ohhh wow, how revelatory, how specific, how believable. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 9:15 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Having listened to a couple of tapes I think he sounds like an old time preacher crossed with any number of new age guru's. Maybe you had to be there to buy into whatever charisma he's supposed to have but he delivers his speeches like a second hand car dealer reading a script. I wouldn't say used car salesman vibe as much as I would Theosophical poseur vibe. Charlie -- from my perspective -- was pretty much a clone of every other male teacher I've ever encountered in the world of Western Mysticism. Used car salesmen actually display a little faux emotion in their pitches. Theosophists and Golden Dawn-ers tended to speak in that I cannot display emotion of any kind when I speak because that might lead people to believe that this incredible wisdom I'm laying on them was learned recently and is a new revelation for me, rather than something I was a master of before they were out of grade school tone of voice. :-) Charlie was a mildly entertaining charlatan. I always figured that the only reason TMers in L.A. flocked to see him was that his spiritual poseur act was at least more interesting than hearing Maharishi say the same old things on tape after tape after tape. I went to see him because his talks were the best place in town to pick up women. Most of them were TMers or TM teachers there for the same reason -- to hook up. :-) It reminds me of John Hagelin's endless rants on the Marshy channel - but without Hagelin's obvious insanity. Maybe there were just a lot of people about in those days that wanted to hear - a positive message, no matter how unlikely? They loved to hear him talk about the things that Maharishi *wouldn't* talk about. It didn't how silly or naive or insane these topics were, just as long as they were new and sounded vaguely spiritual. Maybe this explains the intensity of Hagelin's monologues, in Charlies day no one knew any better but now we have the benefit of hindsight, to keep banging on that the Golden Age is coming sounds positively demened. Poor old JH is trying to convince himself as well as us whereas Charlie probably believed it all... I'm honestly not sure how much of Charlie's jive he believed. I honestly got the overall vibe of a guy who has been telling the same stories for so long that it no longer *mattered* to him whether they were true or not. He just got off on telling them again, for any audience that would listen with rapt attention. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. I notice that the deserts aren't exactly blooming at the moment, did he have a specific timescale for this wondrous new world of peace and enlightenment, or do we have to annihilate radical Islam and the oil industry first? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's notorious womanizing cave...
To make you even more happy I can now inform Lawson that the house he mistakenly called Maharishi's belonged to Guru Dev and is situated at the bank of the Ganges river in Uttarkashi. It was in the cave underneath this house Maharishi spent a year of silence after the departure of Guru Dev. And the very same place where some of the holy ashes of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was taken and given to the river in a great ceremony shortly after the funeral. So there, hope that made your friday :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : There are moments that almost make the time-suck black hole of FFL worthwhile. Seeing Nabby feel the need to call Lawson on overdoing it in the service of cult apologetics is one of those moments. :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Nonsense. The incident you are refferring to, and which both Mia and her sister have seriously downplayed happened in Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : One minute and 25 seconds into this video, you can see David Lynch sitting in Maharishi's cave underneath his house, where Mia Farrow said Maharishi put his arms around her implying he was going to have sex with her... Was there another cave, or was Ms Farrow merely unstressing mightily? It would be almost impossible for two people to stand up in that place without one person touching the other, or so it seems to me. New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footsteps from North to South India and the start of the TM movement http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footste... http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ It's a Beautiful World is film by Richard Beymer of David Lynch retracing his Master's footsteps throughout India, when Maharishi left the Silence of the Hi... View on theuncarvedb... http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's famous cave...
To make you even more happy I can now inform Lawson that the house he mistakenly called Maharishi's belonged to Guru Dev and is situated at the bank of the Ganges river in Uttarkashi. It was in the cave underneath this house Maharishi spent a year of silence after the departure of Guru Dev. And the very same place where some of the holy ashes of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was taken and given to the river in a great ceremony shortly after the funeral. So there, hope that made your friday :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : There are moments that almost make the time-suck black hole of FFL worthwhile. Seeing Nabby feel the need to call Lawson on overdoing it in the service of cult apologetics is one of those moments. :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Nonsense. The incident you are refferring to, and which both Mia and her sister have seriously downplayed happened in Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : One minute and 25 seconds into this video, you can see David Lynch sitting in Maharishi's cave underneath his house, where Mia Farrow said Maharishi put his arms around her implying he was going to have sex with her... Was there another cave, or was Ms Farrow merely unstressing mightily? It would be almost impossible for two people to stand up in that place without one person touching the other, or so it seems to me. New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footsteps from North to South India and the start of the TM movement http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footste... http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ It's a Beautiful World is film by Richard Beymer of David Lynch retracing his Master's footsteps throughout India, when Maharishi left the Silence of the Hi... View on theuncarvedb... http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's famous cave...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : To make you even more happy I can now inform Lawson that the house he mistakenly called Maharishi's belonged to Guru Dev and is situated at the bank of the Ganges river in Uttarkashi. It was in the cave underneath this house Maharishi spent a year of silence after the departure of Guru Dev. And the very same place where some of the holy ashes of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was taken and given to the river in a great ceremony shortly after the funeral. So there, hope that made your friday :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : There are moments that almost make the time-suck black hole of FFL worthwhile. Seeing Nabby feel the need to call Lawson on overdoing it in the service of cult apologetics is one of those moments. :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Nonsense. The incident you are refferring to, and which both Mia and her sister have seriously downplayed happened in Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : One minute and 25 seconds into this video, you can see David Lynch sitting in Maharishi's cave underneath his house, where Mia Farrow said Maharishi put his arms around her implying he was going to have sex with her... Was there another cave, or was Ms Farrow merely unstressing mightily? It would be almost impossible for two people to stand up in that place without one person touching the other, or so it seems to me. New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footsteps from North to South India and the start of the TM movement http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footste... http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ It's a Beautiful World is film by Richard Beymer of David Lynch retracing his Master's footsteps throughout India, when Maharishi left the Silence of the Hi... View on theuncarvedb... http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
TM-SIdhis program *always* includes TM, so there's no point in talking about things any other way. A freind of mine thought that Yogic Flying was the most important thing you could ever do, so he would cut out TM and the rest of the TM-SIdhis if he was short on time. I thought he was strange. He thought *I* was strange. He now lives with the Hare Krishna folk and denounces MMY and all that he taught, especially the TM-SIdhis. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Personally, I am glad I had done TM, and some rounding, before I was exposed to the TM-Siddhis Programme. Without that foundation, built from meditation, the experiences can be a bit unsettling, to say the least. I would not mess around with sidhis, without that initial stability. With it, no worries. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : That was a bit flippant of me, wasn't it? Cardmeister has already gone into detail about how different commentators interpret the warning differently. The most straightforward interpretation is that only the sense-related siddhis are impediments to samadhi. Maharishi takes a broader view, and assumes the warning applies to all the siddhis, but he doesn't consider it a warning in the sense that other people do. Charlie Lutes appears to simply have assumed that the traditional interpretation was right and MMY was wrong. End of story. But Fred Travis' research shows that practicing them produces an enhanced version of the same EEG pattern associated with pure consciousness, and that video I linked to earlier shows a before/after segment of someone who had been on teh Invicincible America course for 2+ years, and how much more enhanced the frontal EEG coherence was in the after picture when they were simply practicing TM. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote : What do you consider the modern tradition? The Shiva Samhita is generally thought to have been composed somewhere between 1600 to 1800 CE though one translator thinks it was composed perhaps around 1500 CE. This is hardly an old document, having been written long after the classic Vedic works. For example Yoga Vashistha, which was written somewhere between 900 to 1300, claims powers should not be pursued if you are on a path of self knowledge. The Yoga Sutras themselves were written somewhere between 100 and 500 CE. You know, it has never been clear to me whether Patanjali (or its author if not really Patanjali) was simply describing these things as a matter of knowledge, or actually recommending them as a practice. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : Because Charley believed the modern tradition. You don't find the same warnings about Yogic Flying and other Siddhis in older sources, as far as I can tell. In fact, the Shiva Samhita says that practice of Yogic Flying destroys the darkness of the world. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : And yet Charlie was fairly vocal in saying that Marshy made a mistake in teaching the TM Sidhi program. How do you account for that? From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:39 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's notorious womanizing cave...
The *womanizing* cave was in Rishikesh, M's basement in his bungalow. The cave Lynch refers to in the up-coming film was in Uttarkashi. It was basically a root cellar in a house down by the river. It was very tiny. I stepped in and very nearly became claustrophobic. That house has since been washed away by floods just last year. On Thursday, June 26, 2014 4:30 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: To make you even more happy I can now inform Lawson that the house he mistakenly called Maharishi's belonged to Guru Dev and is situated at the bank of the Ganges river in Uttarkashi. It was in the cave underneath this house Maharishi spent a year of silence after the departure of Guru Dev. And the very same place where some of the holy ashes of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was taken and given to the river in a great ceremony shortly after the funeral. So there, hope that made your friday :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : There are moments that almost make the time-suck black hole of FFL worthwhile. Seeing Nabby feel the need to call Lawson on overdoing it in the service of cult apologetics is one of those moments. :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Nonsense. The incident you are refferring to, and which both Mia and her sister have seriously downplayed happened in Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : One minute and 25 seconds into this video, you can see David Lynch sitting in Maharishi's cave underneath his house, where Mia Farrow said Maharishi put his arms around her implying he was going to have sex with her... Was there another cave, or was Ms Farrow merely unstressing mightily? It would be almost impossible for two people to stand up in that place without one person touching the other, or so it seems to me. New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footsteps from North to South India and the start of the TM movement New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footste... It's a Beautiful World is film by Richard Beymer of David Lynch retracing his Master's footsteps throughout India, when Maharishi left the Silence of the Hi... View on theuncarvedb... Preview by Yahoo
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
Ha!, that's funny Ann. BTW, the colloidal silver has worked very well in the little patch of psoriasis or dry skin below my knee. I've had that patch for about 20 years and during that time managed to go to the skin doctor a couple of times. In both cases they gave me a topical ointment they had as samples, which never worked very well. I am not kidding here. I rubbed on that collodial silver and in a few minutes the patch cleaned up nicely. There is still the red area where the patch was, and I don't know if that is going to go away, but I put a bit of the ointment on every day and will see what happens. Every so often I get a little athlete's foot. Guess will have to see what happens there. So, thank you. Hope this isn't TMI. (-: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : Is it time yet to call you the MBC and tell you to stop picking on Nabby or is that only reserved for women who pick on Share?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's notorious womanizing cave...
That's too bad -the washing away. It just shows how oblivious people are concerning historical sites. It should have been trivial to build a dike around the house. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote : The *womanizing* cave was in Rishikesh, M's basement in his bungalow. The cave Lynch refers to in the up-coming film was in Uttarkashi. It was basically a root cellar in a house down by the river. It was very tiny. I stepped in and very nearly became claustrophobic. That house has since been washed away by floods just last year. On Thursday, June 26, 2014 4:30 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: To make you even more happy I can now inform Lawson that the house he mistakenly called Maharishi's belonged to Guru Dev and is situated at the bank of the Ganges river in Uttarkashi. It was in the cave underneath this house Maharishi spent a year of silence after the departure of Guru Dev. And the very same place where some of the holy ashes of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was taken and given to the river in a great ceremony shortly after the funeral. So there, hope that made your friday :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : There are moments that almost make the time-suck black hole of FFL worthwhile. Seeing Nabby feel the need to call Lawson on overdoing it in the service of cult apologetics is one of those moments. :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Nonsense. The incident you are refferring to, and which both Mia and her sister have seriously downplayed happened in Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : One minute and 25 seconds into this video, you can see David Lynch sitting in Maharishi's cave underneath his house, where Mia Farrow said Maharishi put his arms around her implying he was going to have sex with her... Was there another cave, or was Ms Farrow merely unstressing mightily? It would be almost impossible for two people to stand up in that place without one person touching the other, or so it seems to me. New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footsteps from North to South India and the start of the TM movement http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footste... http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ It's a Beautiful World is film by Richard Beymer of David Lynch retracing his Master's footsteps throughout India, when Maharishi left the Silence of the Hi... View on theuncarvedb... Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's notorious womanizing cave...
more likely Marshy spent two years sponging off his parents and sulking that his previous gravy train was gone - till he had the idea of re-inventing himself from a clerk to enlightened guru - what brilliance the devious human mind can come up with! From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's notorious womanizing cave... To make you even more happy I can now inform Lawson that the house he mistakenly called Maharishi's belonged to Guru Dev and is situated at the bank of the Ganges river in Uttarkashi. It was in the cave underneath this house Maharishi spent a year of silence after the departure of Guru Dev. And the very same place where some of the holy ashes of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was taken and given to the river in a great ceremony shortly after the funeral. So there, hope that made your friday :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : There are moments that almost make the time-suck black hole of FFL worthwhile. Seeing Nabby feel the need to call Lawson on overdoing it in the service of cult apologetics is one of those moments. :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Nonsense. The incident you are refferring to, and which both Mia and her sister have seriously downplayed happened in Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : One minute and 25 seconds into this video, you can see David Lynch sitting in Maharishi's cave underneath his house, where Mia Farrow said Maharishi put his arms around her implying he was going to have sex with her... Was there another cave, or was Ms Farrow merely unstressing mightily? It would be almost impossible for two people to stand up in that place without one person touching the other, or so it seems to me. New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footsteps from North to South India and the start of the TM movement New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footste... It's a Beautiful World is film by Richard Beymer of David Lynch retracing his Master's footsteps throughout India, when Maharishi left the Silence of the Hi... View on theuncarvedb... Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: What If?
What if you woke up one morning and you found out that the rooster overslept and so you woke up late? On 6/26/2014 2:23 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up one morning and found out that the borders of the U.S. had not been secured? Obama administration officials claim the frontier is more secure than ever... 'Immigration reform's first hurdle: Is the border secure?' Los Angeles Times: http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-ff-secure-border-20130310-dto-htmlstory.html After previously saying America's borders are more secure than ever, the White House on Tuesday seemingly blamed Republicans for apparent holes along the southern boundary... 'White House now faults Republicans for weak border security' Washington Times: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/24/obama-blames-republicans-poor-border-security/ On 6/25/2014 4:04 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that the IRS had become weaponized? ...if the administration didn't target opponents, that would mean the IRS has become corrupt all on its own. Go figure. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/380812/bureaucrats-bureaucrats-bureaucrats-jonah-goldberg 'IRS Admits Wrongdoing, to Pay $50,000 in Leaking of Marriage Group's Tax Return' http://dailysignal.com/2014/06/24/irs-admits-wrongdoing-pay-5-leaking-marriage-groups-tax-return/ On 6/24/2014 10:54 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up in the morning and found out that the IRS was incompetent? 'However, Rep. Scott Desjarlais, R-Tenn. pointed out that $10-to-30 million was not much compared to the $89 million the IRS paid in bonuses last year, including $1 million to employees who actually owed back taxes.' http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/irs-chief-scorched-as-liar/ On 6/20/2014 1:28 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that the FBI was going to subpoena all your Google searches on your home computer and mobile devices looking for searches about /how to destroy your hard drive?/ http://www.bloombergview.com/irs-conspiracy/ http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-19/an-irs-conspiracy-not-likely-yet On 6/20/2014 12:24 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote: /What if/ you woke up one morning and found out you were being audited by the IRS and that two years of your emails to the agency, which might prove your case, were found to be missing because of a computer hard drive crash; and what if seven other agency hard drives had crashed at the same time; and what if the email back-server for the agency had failed at the same time; and what if the magnetic tape backup of the backup had also failed? /And, what if/ you woke up the next morning and the agency told you that your failed hard drive had been thrown in the trash? There were audible gasps in the room today when IRS Commissioner John Koskinen told Congress that Lerner's hard drive was tossed out. Koskinen testified before the House Ways and Means Committee today on the IRS conservative targeting scandal. /'Audience GASPS As IRS Commissioner Admits Missing Lois Lerner Hard Drive Was Trashed'/ Gateway Pundit: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/audience-gasps-as-irs-commissioner-admits-missing-lois-lerner-hard-drive-was-trashed/ http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06/audience-gasps-as-irs-commissioner-admits-missing-lois-lerner-hard-drive-was-trashed-video/ On 6/19/2014 9:00 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up in the morning and the price for a gallon of gasoline at the pump was at $10.00? What if you woke up in the morning and you found out that Canada had almost completed a pipeline to deliver oil to Asia instead of to Canada and the U.S.? What if you woke up in the morning and your power had been cut off? What if you woke up in the morning and you realized that everything was much worse than you thought? How much worse? Ten times worse. Go figure. 'Iraq: Why It's Worse Than You Think' http://oilandgas-investments.com/2014/oil-prices/iraq-why-its-worse-than-you-think/ On 6/18/2014 9:51 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you woke up one morning and the IRS had lost all your records and all your emails for the last two years? What if six IRS hard drives had crashed and all the records were just gone, disappeared? I wonder what would happen to the IT guy in charge of the servers at the IRS data center? What if the IRS Commissioner was called in before the U.S. Congress to testify under oath about the mysterious data loss? What if you were audited by the IRS and your records were given to the FBI? Go figure. 'Missing E-Mail Is the Least of the IRS's Problems' Bloomberg: http://www.bloombergview.com/missing-e-mail/ http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-06-17/missing-e-mail-is-the-least-of-the-irs-s-problems On 6/12/2014 9:30 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote: What if you opened your local newspaper and read that the recent surge of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
1. Now if pure consciousness is transcendent and non-physical, no EEG pattern
would ever reveal it, since no evidence of consciousness could ever be
discovered scientifically as science only measures physical things. Thus all
evidence that scientific evidence can somehow support the contention that
meditation somehow results in states of consciousness must be false and
misguided. The way out of this conundrum is to state that scientific evidence,
EEG etc., does not in any way measure consciousness, rather it is measuring
something else going on in the brain that the mind thinks is related to
spiritual progress.
Some would say what is measured is the experience of a silent, still mind.
Consciousness is experiencing a silent, still mind. Because we can remember the
experience, the mind must have some activity, but the mind did not experience
consciousness, it recorded a facet of its own properties, which consciousness
illuminated, but was uninvolved with. Because consciousness is said to be
eternal, and unchanging ('truth') there can be no such thing as states of
consciousness since different states requires change. Therefore these
experiences we have as meditators do not represent states of consciousness,
they simply represent relative states of the mind. And therefore enlightenment,
assuming it exists, must represent something else entirely.
2. So if a warning in Maharishi's sense does not represent what it means to
other people, what does it mean? How do you explain it, or explain it away?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :
That was a bit flippant of me, wasn't it?
Cardmeister has already gone into detail about how different commentators
interpret the warning differently.
The most straightforward interpretation is that only the sense-related siddhis
are impediments to samadhi.
Maharishi takes a broader view, and assumes the warning applies to all the
siddhis, but he doesn't consider it a warning in the sense that other people do.
Charlie Lutes appears to simply have assumed that the traditional
interpretation was right and MMY was wrong.
End of story.
But Fred Travis' research shows that practicing them produces an enhanced
version of the same EEG pattern associated with pure consciousness, and that
video I linked to earlier shows a before/after segment of someone who had been
on teh Invicincible America course for 2+ years, and how much more enhanced the
frontal EEG coherence was in the after picture when they were simply
practicing TM.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote :
What do you consider the modern tradition? The Shiva Samhita is generally
thought to have been composed somewhere between 1600 to 1800 CE though one
translator thinks it was composed perhaps around 1500 CE. This is hardly an old
document, having been written long after the classic Vedic works. For example
Yoga Vashistha, which was written somewhere between 900 to 1300, claims powers
should not be pursued if you are on a path of self knowledge. The Yoga Sutras
themselves were written somewhere between 100 and 500 CE. You know, it has
never been clear to me whether Patanjali (or its author if not really
Patanjali) was simply describing these things as a matter of knowledge, or
actually recommending them as a practice.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :
Because Charley believed the modern tradition.
You don't find the same warnings about Yogic Flying and other Siddhis in older
sources, as far as I can tell.
In fact, the Shiva Samhita says that practice of Yogic Flying destroys the
darkness of the world.
L
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote :
And yet Charlie was fairly vocal in saying that Marshy made a mistake in
teaching the TM Sidhi program. How do you account for that?
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:39 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on
spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
Thanks for posting this. Lutes was a truly interesting American and a Seer.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote :
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLty-nUj7w26oQPy7rubDw1ZcHLL98T8fq
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's notorious womanizing cave...
On 6/26/2014 8:21 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: more likely Marshy spent two years sponging off his parents and sulking that his previous gravy train was gone - till he had the idea of re-inventing himself from a clerk to enlightened guru - what brilliance the devious human mind can come up with! The Maharishi can't compare to all your accomplishments! *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:30 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's notorious womanizing cave... To make you even more happy I can now inform Lawson that the house he mistakenly called Maharishi's belonged to Guru Dev and is situated at the bank of the Ganges river in Uttarkashi. It was in the cave underneath this house Maharishi spent a year of silence after the departure of Guru Dev. And the very same place where some of the holy ashes of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was taken and given to the river in a great ceremony shortly after the funeral. So there, hope that made your friday :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : There are moments that almost make the time-suck black hole of FFL worthwhile. Seeing Nabby feel the need to call Lawson on overdoing it in the service of cult apologetics is one of those moments. :-) *From:* nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Nonsense. The incident you are refferring to, and which both Mia and her sister have seriously downplayed happened in Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : One minute and 25 seconds into this video, you can see David Lynch sitting in Maharishi's cave underneath his house, where Mia Farrow said Maharishi put his arms around her implying he was going to have sex with her... Was there another cave, or was Ms Farrow merely unstressing mightily? It would be almost impossible for two people to stand up in that place without one person touching the other, or so it seems to me. New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footsteps from North to South India and the start of the TM movement http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ image http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footste... http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ It's a Beautiful World is film by Richard Beymer of David Lynch retracing his Master's footsteps throughout India, when Maharishi left the Silence of the Hi... View on theuncarvedb... http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes - A series of lectures on spirituality relevant to Transcendental Meditators. - YouTube
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Ha!, that's funny Ann. BTW, the colloidal silver has worked very well in the little patch of psoriasis or dry skin below my knee. I've had that patch for about 20 years and during that time managed to go to the skin doctor a couple of times. In both cases they gave me a topical ointment they had as samples, which never worked very well. I am not kidding here. I rubbed on that collodial silver and in a few minutes the patch cleaned up nicely. There is still the red area where the patch was, and I don't know if that is going to go away, but I put a bit of the ointment on every day and will see what happens. Every so often I get a little athlete's foot. Guess will have to see what happens there. So, thank you. Hope this isn't TMI. (-: No, you're adorable. I am glad that silver appears to be doing something useful. Keep using it and let me know what happens. You could eat that stuff and it wouldn't hurt you. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : Is it time yet to call you the MBC and tell you to stop picking on Nabby or is that only reserved for women who pick on Share?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Using open source everything to defeat the corporate overlords
On 6/26/2014 2:57 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 06/26/2014 11:59 AM, 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: On 6/26/2014 1:37 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: I've often said that open source should go beyond just computers. There's a (very long) article about it from the UK Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2014/jun/19/open-source-revolution-conquer-one-percent-cia-spy The NSA is opposed to open source and all forms of encryption. Look what happened to Aaron Swartz. In the future, the programmer will be a God controlled by the government. All you have to do to control the society is follow the numbers and then execute a file. In the future, you may be eliminated by the simple press of a button - even now people can be /un-friended/ in social media. The three most popular passwords are: /password, sex/, and /god/ - not particularly in that order. But, there will probably always be Hackers - the /Prophets of Information Technology./ So, if you are a hacker, it would be against the /Hacker Code/ to not share your data and code with the rest of the world - to save mankind from ignorance - a /moral imperitive for the Hacker/. The Hacker's world view is basic /libertarianism/. Hackers fear fear that powerful individuals are taking over the internet and controlling our thoughts through the media, violating our privacy, all the while posting reams of information about themselves and propaganda. The underlying philosophy is the Hacker belief that everything can be perfected if everyone could just tap into the almost unlimited and vast trove of knowledge on the internet. Go figure. Programmers in the 1980s were basically apolitical. It was just something they didn't care much about. Libertarianism sounded good to some of them so they adopted it not knowing about the different schools of libertarianism. I used to have fun giving an Ayn Rand school BBS fits. :-D However I was already political in the 1980s and being raised by a politically active family was since childhood. Since I grew up in the arts the First Amendment was very important to me and I see it as a liberal issue. Leaked search warrants suggest Sabu wasn't the only LulzSec hacker who helped the FBI take down the infamous hacktivist group. The un-redacted search warrants for Sabu and LulzSec refer to involvement of three different informants in the investigation, at least two of whom it is implied were members of the organization. /'Sabu wasn't the only FBI mole in LulzSec, suggest leaked docs'/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/10/lulzsec_warrants_leak/ Read more: /'We Are Anonymous: Inside the Hacker World of LulzSec, Anonymous, and the Global Cyber Insurgency' / by Parmy Olson Little, Brown and Company, 2012 /Because he knows the power of the technology he has mastered, he knows how distressingly fragile the barrier is between freedom and censorship---it's a simple matter of who writes the code./ 'So Open It Hurts' What the Internet did to Aaron Swartz New Republic: http://preview.tinyurl.com/ala5v77
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement
On 6/26/2014 2:28 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's Maitreya, a non-existent master, communication with whom Benjy has parlayed into a minor living off the extremely gullible fringe of the New Age movement. Maitreya is supposed to be a bodhisattva who is scheduled to appear on earth 5,000 years after the original Buddha. Which means in another 2500 years. After Helena Blavatsky died and the Theosophical Society split up in part over the controversy over Jiddu Krisnamurti whom the idiots who were running the TS in those days declared as the vehicle of the soon to manifest Maitreya (who said he was not and dropped out) and the controversy over CW Leadbeater who had a penchant for teenage boys. Leadbeater was the one who supposedly discovered Jiddu Krisnamurti and he and Alice Bailey claimed all kinds of crap about Maitreya coming to earth soon even tho the original Buddhists claims are for the future. Benjy Creme who was a student of Bailey saw an opportunity for a gravy train and appropriated her and Leadbeater's teachings about the non-existent world teacher although as Baily, Leadbeater and now Creme describe him, he seems to no longer be a Buddha. All fake, made up bullshit. Now this is funny - all fake, made up bullshit by an imposter with a fake name. Go figure. *From:* anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Thursday, June 26, 2014 2:30 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement So are you part of the 'undisclosed for the public', or do you travel in esoteric circles, and thus know the name? I suppose you hang out on websites like this: The 'Christ' of the United Nations - thru Benjamin Creme, page 1 http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread841602/pg1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : They are from Benjamin Creme's Master, His name is well known in esoteric circles but as yet undisclosed for the public. Anyone can send Mr. Creme a question about the evolution of a deceased and it will be published if he finds the result to be of public interest.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement
Monkeys. I want monkeys flying out of butts! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 6/26/2014 2:28 PM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's Maitreya, a non-existent master, communication with whom Benjy has parlayed into a minor living off the extremely gullible fringe of the New Age movement. Maitreya is supposed to be a bodhisattva who is scheduled to appear on earth 5,000 years after the original Buddha. Which means in another 2500 years. After Helena Blavatsky died and the Theosophical Society split up in part over the controversy over Jiddu Krisnamurti whom the idiots who were running the TS in those days declared as the vehicle of the soon to manifest Maitreya (who said he was not and dropped out) and the controversy over CW Leadbeater who had a penchant for teenage boys. Leadbeater was the one who supposedly discovered Jiddu Krisnamurti and he and Alice Bailey claimed all kinds of crap about Maitreya coming to earth soon even tho the original Buddhists claims are for the future. Benjy Creme who was a student of Bailey saw an opportunity for a gravy train and appropriated her and Leadbeater's teachings about the non-existent world teacher although as Baily, Leadbeater and now Creme describe him, he seems to no longer be a Buddha. All fake, made up bullshit. Now this is funny - all fake, made up bullshit by an imposter with a fake name. Go figure. From: anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 2:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Lutes and early TM movement So are you part of the 'undisclosed for the public', or do you travel in esoteric circles, and thus know the name? I suppose you hang out on websites like this: The 'Christ' of the United Nations - thru Benjamin Creme, page 1 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : They are from Benjamin Creme's Master, His name is well known in esoteric circles but as yet undisclosed for the public. Anyone can send Mr. Creme a question about the evolution of a deceased and it will be published if he finds the result to be of public interest.
[FairfieldLife] Re: We Are Going There
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : We went online to Haverty's today and I designed this love seat. It sucks, so we are going to visit an IKEA Store this weekend. What makes something a love seat? This is not little enough to be one and it isn't one of those cool ones like this:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's notorious womanizing cave...
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : more likely Marshy spent two years sponging off his parents and sulking that his previous gravy train was gone - till he had the idea of re-inventing himself from a clerk to enlightened guru - what brilliance the devious human mind can come up with! You oughta write a book MJ. You make me laugh with your active imagination and I know you can write so it makes sense you should write MMY's biography. From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2014 7:30 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's notorious womanizing cave... To make you even more happy I can now inform Lawson that the house he mistakenly called Maharishi's belonged to Guru Dev and is situated at the bank of the Ganges river in Uttarkashi. It was in the cave underneath this house Maharishi spent a year of silence after the departure of Guru Dev. And the very same place where some of the holy ashes of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi was taken and given to the river in a great ceremony shortly after the funeral. So there, hope that made your friday :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : There are moments that almost make the time-suck black hole of FFL worthwhile. Seeing Nabby feel the need to call Lawson on overdoing it in the service of cult apologetics is one of those moments. :-) From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com Nonsense. The incident you are refferring to, and which both Mia and her sister have seriously downplayed happened in Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : One minute and 25 seconds into this video, you can see David Lynch sitting in Maharishi's cave underneath his house, where Mia Farrow said Maharishi put his arms around her implying he was going to have sex with her... Was there another cave, or was Ms Farrow merely unstressing mightily? It would be almost impossible for two people to stand up in that place without one person touching the other, or so it seems to me. New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footsteps from North to South India and the start of the TM movement http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ New film shows David Lynch retracing Maharishi’s footste... http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ It's a Beautiful World is film by Richard Beymer of David Lynch retracing his Master's footsteps throughout India, when Maharishi left the Silence of the Hi... View on theuncarvedb... http://theuncarvedblog.com/2014/05/14/new-film-shows-david-lynch-retracing-maharishis-footsteps-from-north-to-south-india-and-the-start-of-the-tm-movement/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Can John Kerry be the Next President?
IMO, he can if he succeeds in negotiating for peace in Iraq and eliminating ISIS in the political process. It's a tall order. But we'll find out in the next few weeks how the crisis unfolds. http://news.yahoo.com/kerry-issues-warning-syria-bombs-iraq-163554655.html http://news.yahoo.com/kerry-issues-warning-syria-bombs-iraq-163554655.html
