Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Hey, whatever is working for you.  But, in case you hadn't noticed, you do 
spend a lot of time here.  So, something about this place suits you, if only to 
bash MMY eight to ten times a day. 

 Your idea that gurus equal charlatans, in it for the sex, does make me smile.  
Fits nicely into your world view.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You put it very well - that's what most of them are, as well as a dodge for 
the so-called gurus to avoid real jobs and get laid a lot. And you are the one 
doing the TM is the center of the universe spinning. 

 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
 
 
   Michael, feel free to spin it anyway you want.  What the guy is talking 
about is pure awareness experienced by itself, and as a background to other 
thoughts and activity.  I am sorry if that upsets you.
 

 Then he goes about, clumsily, I might add, on how one might go about achieving 
or experiencing that.
 

 And by the way, yes, I figured out, somewhere along the way that MMY didn't 
invent pure awareness, "if it exists", but you do have a propensity of 
dismissing most spiritual traditions as examples of the "power of suggestion", 
except the practices or modalities you endorse, of course, or at least try to 
make a buck on.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Sycophantic thinking. Pure Awareness, if it exists, was around long before 
Marshy became a blip on the world scene, and there were and are plenty of 
others who came before him, while he was here and after him who taught the same 
thing. To relate everything to him is pitiful and sycophantic. 

 Especially to do so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation saying 
that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom in Presence. And he's right.

 

 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
 
 
   I listened to this. You realize that all he's talking about is trying to 
achieve the state of pure awareness, both by itself and as being present with 
other thoughts and activity.  It may be the first I really listened to anything 
he's said, but it's sort of remarkable, that the main gist of his teaching, or 
at least this little bit, is just, really, a piece of MMY's overall teaching.
 

 I defy anyone, (if that would be the appropriate term), to say otherwise.
 

 And no, I am not selling anything!
 

 Just listen, and see if you come to a different conclusion.
 

 Actually, I think its sort of neat to see someone come at from a different 
angle, although he doesn't offer a direct means to achieve this.  He offers 
indirect means.  Not saying its better or worse.  But its being presented as 
though its a fresh insight.  Nothing new about it.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4
 
 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 Eckhart explores the powerful 
addiction to thinking, offering a handful of ways to put a stop to thoughts and 
choose presence instead.


 
 View on www.youtube.com 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  



 





 














 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Earlier this summer a 100.000.-£ reward was offered to any humans that could

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 2:48 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
> Earlier this summer a 100.000.-£ reward was offered to any humans 
that could

>
Obviously we are not alone. Whoever or whatever did this has probably 
been here on planet Earth for some time, but invisible to humans. This 
kind of demonstration would be child's play for a spiritual entity from 
another planet. Obviously anyone who could replicate this crop circle in 
one single night in the dark could materialize instant cash in excess of 
100,000 pounds in an instant. Go figure.

>


duplicate a specific Crop Circle, not the one below. Needless to say 
there were no takers.


Crop Circle at Parkers Hill Plantation, nr Cherington, 
Gloucestershire, United Kingdom. Reported 27th July 2014 






image 


Crop Circle at Parkers Hill Plantation, nr Cherington, G... 

  Parkers Hill Plantation, nr Cherington, Gloucestershire, United 
Kingdom. Reported 27th July. Map Ref: ST914988 This Page has been 
accessed Upd...


View on www.cropcircleconne... 



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It's really pretty hilarious.  You've got this guy who is considered an 
apostle of new age thinking, and what's his sage advice to those who 
might look to him for guidance?  "Know that you are not the object of 
perception"  "Notice the space between thoughts"  And how to do that? 
 "Well, just keep reminding yourself!"

You and Willy Tex are still the Supreme FFL Idiots - Nisagardatta taught the 
EXACT SAME THING. Now go dis Nisagardatta.



 From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
 


  
It's really pretty hilarious.  You've got this guy who is considered an apostle 
of new age thinking, and what's his sage advice to those who might look to him 
for guidance?  "Know that you are not the object of perception"  "Notice the 
space between thoughts"  And how to do that?  "Well, just keep reminding 
yourself!"

And then you've got someone like MJ who had clear transcending with TM, clear 
experiences of no mantra, no thoughts, (egads, Is that pure awareness?), and 
now insists he was a victim of the power of suggestion, and eats up this 
Eckhardt Tolle stuff.

As our resident philosopher says, "You can't make this stuff up!"



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


What Steve is saying is that in terms of teaching spiritual concepts, Maharishi 
could whip Tolle, with one hand tied behind his back. No shit - Tolle has 
nothing to say of any importance, except wishful thinking and empty fantasies.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Sycophantic thinking. Pure Awareness, if it exists, was around long before 
Marshy became a blip on the world scene, and there were and are plenty of 
others who came before him, while he was here and after him who taught the same 
thing. To relate everything to him is pitiful and sycophantic. 

Especially to do so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation saying 
that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom in Presence. And he's right.




 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking



 
I listened to this. You realize that all he's talking about is trying to 
achieve the state of pure awareness, both by itself and as being present with 
other thoughts and activity.  It may be the first I really listened to anything 
he's said, but it's sort of remarkable, that the main gist of his teaching, or 
at least this little bit, is just, really, a piece of MMY's overall teaching.

I defy anyone, (if that would be the appropriate term), to say otherwise.

And no, I am not selling anything!

Just listen, and see if you come to a
different conclusion.

Actually, I think its sort of neat to see someone come at from a different 
angle, although he doesn't offer a direct means to achieve this.  He offers 
indirect means.  Not saying its better or worse.  But its being presented as 
though its a fresh insight.  Nothing new about it.  



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


How do we break the habit of excessive thinking?
 
  How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
Eckhart explores the powerful addiction to thinking, offering a handful of ways 
to put a stop to thoughts and choose presence instead.  
View on www.youtube.com   Preview by Yahoo   
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

You put it very well - that's what most of them are, as well as a dodge for the 
so-called gurus to avoid real jobs and get laid a lot. And you are the one 
doing the TM is the center of the universe spinning. 



 From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
 


  
Michael, feel free to spin it anyway you want.  What the guy is talking about 
is pure awareness experienced by itself, and as a background to other thoughts 
and activity.  I am sorry if that upsets you.

Then he goes about, clumsily, I might add, on how one might go about achieving 
or experiencing that.

And by the way, yes, I figured out, somewhere along the way that MMY didn't 
invent pure awareness, "if it exists", but you do have a propensity of 
dismissing most spiritual traditions as examples of the "power of suggestion", 
except the practices or modalities you endorse, of course, or at least try to 
make a buck on.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Sycophantic thinking. Pure Awareness, if it exists, was around long before 
Marshy became a blip on the world scene, and there were and are plenty of 
others who came before him, while he was here and after him who taught the same 
thing. To relate everything to him is pitiful and sycophantic. 

Especially to do so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation saying 
that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom in Presence. And he's right.




 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking



 
I listened to this. You realize that all he's talking about is trying to 
achieve the state of pure awareness, both by itself and as being present with 
other thoughts and activity.  It may be the first I really listened to anything 
he's said, but it's sort of remarkable, that the main gist of his teaching, or 
at least this little bit, is just, really, a piece of MMY's overall teaching.

I defy anyone, (if that would be the appropriate term), to say otherwise.

And no, I am not selling anything!

Just listen, and see if you come to a
different conclusion.

Actually, I think its sort of neat to see someone come at from a different 
angle, although he doesn't offer a direct means to achieve this.  He offers 
indirect means.  Not saying its better or worse.  But its being presented as 
though its a fresh insight.  Nothing new about it.  



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


How do we break the habit of excessive thinking?
 
  How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
Eckhart explores the powerful addiction to thinking, offering a handful of ways 
to put a stop to thoughts and choose presence instead.  
View on www.youtube.com   Preview by Yahoo   
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 1:44 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Your interpretation that I said you are a fundamentalist - I didn't 
say it.


How can an enlightened person be bored?

I do sometimes forget to include Edg as one of the more astute posters 
here on FFL.


I feel no "hurt" over my TM fanaticism and - that only lasted a very 
brief time in my dealing with my TM past. Again it is your (and others 
here) mistaken assumption that I am a failure (not true) and that I 
"blame" things on TMO and Marshy.


It is no more blame to look and see a man walk into a bank, pull out a 
gun and demand money and to then call him a thief, robber, crook or 
criminal than it is to see clearly the crimes of Marshy and Company 
and call them liars and crooks cause that is what they were and are. 
No judgment or blaming - just seeing and expressing name and form.

>
So, was your guru, the Maharishi, ever charged with a crime? This sounds 
like just another rumor. Correct me if I am mistaken. Thanks for the 
information, but most of us aren't interested in rumors anymore. What we 
want to know is why you got kicked off campus - sponging off an old man 
and poor students like that for two years. If there are any arrest 
warrants out for you up there they are probably expired by now, so you 
can probably come clean and confess. What happened to all the money?

>



*From:* "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:17 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu 
Architecture


I am not a bigot, regarding all things TM - It is my personal 
preference. As to your assumption that I am a fundamentalist, in that 
regard, you are mistaken. TM is the most effective technique, on the 
planet, for dissolving boundaries. So what? It does not get a person, 
me, or anyone else, enlightened. It is simply a very, very, very 
useful tool, if one is so inclined.


So, as far as I am concerned, do your own thing, MJ, which apparently 
consists of misplacing your hurt, and failure, and deciding that it is 
the big bad TMO and Maharishi, that are the source of 99% of your 
woes, and anybody else's, who may have meditated, using TM. Please, 
get a life.


You have become boring. Edg says some outrageous stuff about the TMO 
and Maharishi and all of that - And he also posts amazing vids of 
whizzing around on this machine he built. How cool is that? Ann 
doesn't really see the utility or meaningfulness of enlightenment, and 
instead raises and rides horses, in the country. Incredibly great!


But you point to yourself, Turq (aka bawee), and Sal, as the clear 
eyed ones on here, the ones that really "get it". I see the three of 
you as some of the laziest, uncreative, and slothful posters, on this 
forum. What the fuck do any of you really do, except knock down the 
ideas and hopes of others, and recycle the past, under the guise of 
cheap wit, and "scientific thinking"?? No inventiveness, or new ideas, 
or even interesting events, in any of your lives - just some worn out 
wrinkled white dudes, casting their bitterness like birdseed, to any 
pigeons they can find - a trio of sad old fuckers, imo.


PS My good friend and neighbor, at the trailer park I live in 
sometimes, is 82 years old, and he comes across, as hell of a lot 
younger, than you guys who "get it", do. Something to think about.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

you are full of it! You have said repeatedly that you are enlightened 
and you got there by doing TM - you have consistently praised TM and 
Marshy - go read your own posts if you don't believe it.



*From:* "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:55 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu 
Architecture


Yes, the world is waking up - even you are far more vocal and active 
about your dislike of TM and Maharishi than even a few months ago. 
That is what I mean. In addition, wars, crime and violence are 
lessening, according to the statistics people keep. So, please keep 
your weak and cynical thinking to yourself. There is enough to do, 
without you nipping at my heels.


Next, please reread my previous post for ANY mention of TM, etc. There 
isn't any. You are so blind and crazed by your pathetic quest, that 
you have become unhinged. I used to think that you were leavening this 
one pointed idiocy with some introspection, but no, you are simply 
using all things TMO as a dodge for something that is bugging the shit 
out of you. Has your wife stopped having sex with you? Do you work for 
a lousy boss? Whatever it is, fix the issue in your personal life, 
first, before you continue your mindless ranting. What a tiresome 
moron you have 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yes, you're right.  I think that is a fortunate thing - getting people to 
consider something along spiritual lines.  Of course maybe people consider they 
do this through their religion.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 And also I think Tolle got a lot of people interested in spirituality. So my 
hat's off to him for that. Ramana Maharishi reportedly said that the most 
important thing we can do for the world is to become realized. Tolle definitely 
did that!

 


 On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 8:52 PM, "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   Definitely.  I'll give him his enlightenment, and respect him for it.
 

 But I felt a little sorry for him, and his rapt audience to see him fumbling 
around trying to sell this pure awareness thing as an experience by itself, and 
a background for activity on the purely intellectual level.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Steve, I would say that Tolle is an enlightened person rather than an 
enlightened teacher. Meaning that he became enlightened and then began to teach 
what he thought got him enlightened. Like being in the Now. But imo, being in 
the Now is a result of being enlightened rather than a technique for getting 
enlightened. 

 


 On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:04 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 
 

   
 On 7/30/2014 8:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Especially to do so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation 
saying that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom in Presence. And he's 
right.
 


 >
 You idiot! Tolle believes transcending our ego-based state of consciousness is 
the way out of suffering and into peace. Apparently Eckhart Tolle practiced TM 
for many years, which was his first foray into a spiritual discipline. 
Apparently you don't even know what you are talking about. Send in the clowns!
 
 'A New Earth'
 Awakening to Your Life's Purpose
 by Eckhart Tolle
 Penguin, 2008
 http://tinyurl.com/3kzv9f http://tinyurl.com/3kzv9f
 
 'The Power of Now'
 A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment
 by Eckhart Tolle
 New World Library, 2004
 http://tinyurl.com/4tq6q5 http://tinyurl.com/4tq6q5
 >
 

 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
mailto:steve.sundur@...[FairfieldLife]  
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
 
 
   I listened to this. You realize that all he's talking about is trying to 
achieve the state of pure awareness, both by itself and as being present with 
other thoughts and activity.  It may be the first I really listened to anything 
he's said, but it's sort of remarkable, that the main gist of his teaching, or 
at least this little bit, is just, really, a piece of MMY's overall teaching.
 
 
 I defy anyone, (if that would be the appropriate term), to say otherwise.
 
 
 And no, I am not selling anything!
 
 
 Just listen, and see if you come to a different conclusion.
 
 
 Actually, I think its sort of neat to see someone come at from a different 
angle, although he doesn't offer a direct means to achieve this.  He offers 
indirect means.  Not saying its better or worse.  But its being presented as 
though its a fresh insight.  Nothing new about it.  
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:cardemaister@... wrote :
 
 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4
 
 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? Eckhart explores the powerful 
addiction to thinking, offering a handful of ways to put a stop to thoughts and 
choose presence instead.


 
 View on www.youtube.com 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
















 

 















 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

And also I think Tolle got a lot of people interested in spirituality. So my 
hat's off to him for that. Ramana Maharishi reportedly said that the most 
important thing we can do for the world is to become realized. Tolle definitely 
did that!



On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 8:52 PM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 


  
Definitely.  I'll give him his enlightenment, and respect him for it.

But I felt a little sorry for him, and his rapt audience to see him fumbling 
around trying to sell this pure awareness thing as an experience by itself, and 
a background for activity on the purely intellectual level.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Steve, I would say that Tolle is an enlightened person rather than an 
enlightened teacher. Meaning that he became enlightened and then began to teach 
what he thought got him enlightened. Like being in the Now. But imo, being in 
the Now is a result of being enlightened rather than a technique for getting 
enlightened. 



On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:04 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



 
On 7/30/2014 8:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

 
>>Especially to do
so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation
saying that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom
in Presence. And he's right.
>>
>
>You idiot! Tolle believes transcending our ego-based state of
consciousness is the way out of suffering and into peace. Apparently
Eckhart Tolle practiced TM for many years, which was his first foray
into a spiritual discipline. Apparently you don't even know what you
are talking about. Send in the clowns!
>
>'A New Earth'
>Awakening to Your Life's Purpose
>by Eckhart Tolle
>Penguin, 2008
>http://tinyurl.com/3kzv9f 
>
>'The Power of Now'
>A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment
>by Eckhart Tolle
>New World Library, 2004
>http://tinyurl.com/4tq6q5
>>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
>>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>I
listened to this. You realize that all
he's talking about is trying to
achieve the state of pure awareness,
both by itself and as being present
with other thoughts and activity.  It
may be the first I really listened to
anything he's said, but it's sort of
remarkable, that the main gist of his
teaching, or at least this little bit,
is just, really, a piece of MMY's
overall teaching.
>>
>>
>>I
defy anyone, (if that would be the
appropriate term), to say otherwise.
>>
>>
>>And
no, I am not selling anything!
>>
>>
>>Just
listen, and see if you come to a
different conclusion.
>>
>>
>>Actually,
I think its sort of neat to see
someone come at from a different
angle, although he doesn't offer a
direct means to achieve this.  He
offers indirect means.  Not saying its
better or worse.  But its being
presented as though its a fresh
insight.  Nothing new about it.  
>>
>>
>>
>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>>
>>
>>How
do we break the habit of excessive
thinking?
>>
>> 
>>
>>   
>>   How
do we break the
habit of excessive
thinking? 
>>Eckhart
explores the
powerful addiction
to thinking,
offering a handful
of ways to put a
stop to thoughts and
choose presence
instead. 
>> 
>>View on www.youtube.com   Preview by Yahoo  
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Steve, maybe not earth shattering but still kind of cool, I think, to have 
awareness of an impulse being arrested. Seems very worth having.



On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 9:00 PM, "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 


  
I remember meditating one time, and I saw a bug crawling in the corner of the 
room, and instead of a frightened response, which would have been normal for 
me, I noticed that that emotion got arrested before it could surface.

I mean, nothing earth shattering.  I just remember it as being sort of funny.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


OTOH, Byron Katie popped in while she was crouched in terror under a bed in the 
attic of a rehab house. And a cockroach crawled across her leg. Glad she didn't 
teach THAT as a technique!



On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:21 PM, "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:



 
Tolle just kind of popped into this state and then sat around on park benches 
for about two years before he began to function in it. Jiddu Krishnamurti also 
just seemed to slide into this state. So these people can talk about it, but 
seem to have trouble formulating a strategy for getting there, as they did not 
experience any strategy or path themselves. The problem of the path though is, 
if you experienced one, will it work for someone else? 

There seem to be some methods common to spiritual traditions that seem to have 
some success, but the success rate is never astounding, most people just end up
believing the understanding part of the process. The common methods seem to be 
1. some sort of meditation, and 2. some sort of understanding that the universe 
has differing aspects, which, 'in reality' are basically the same thing, and 3. 
if you moderate the mind's conceptualisation capacity sufficiently and reduce 
the intensity of persistent thoughts by means of these experiential and 
intellectual practises, all this might make sense sometime during the pursuit, 
provided you are sufficiently focused on the supposed goal. The goal is a 
supposition because you cannot know what it is before it manifests; you merely 
have a belief about what it might be, and that belief is false because it was 
not concerning a fact, but a metaphor.

TM, as with other methods, appears to have a high failure rate, and its 
intellectual component is misleading as far as expectations.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Steve, I would say that Tolle is an enlightened person rather than an 
enlightened teacher. Meaning that he became enlightened and then began to teach 
what he thought got him enlightened. Like being in the Now. But imo, being in 
the Now is a result of being enlightened rather than a technique for getting 
enlightened. 



On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:04 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



 
On 7/30/2014 8:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

 
>>>Especially to do
so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation
saying that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom
in Presence. And he's right.
>>>
>
>>You idiot! Tolle believes transcending our ego-based state of
consciousness is the way out of suffering and into peace. Apparently
Eckhart Tolle practiced TM for many years, which was his first foray
into a spiritual discipline. Apparently you don't even know what you
are talking about. Send in the clowns!
>>
>>'A New Earth'
>>Awakening to Your Life's Purpose
>>by Eckhart Tolle
>>Penguin, 2008
>>http://tinyurl.com/3kzv9f 
>>
>>'The Power of Now'
>>A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment
>>by Eckhart Tolle
>>New World Library, 2004
>>http://tinyurl.com/4tq6q5
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
>>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
>>>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>I
listened to this. You realize that all
he's talking about is trying to
achieve the state of pure awareness,
both by itself and as being present
with other thoughts and activity.  It
may be the first I really listened to
anything he's said, but it's sort of
remarkable, that the main gist of his
teaching, or at least this little bit,
is just, really, a piece of MMY's
overall teaching.
>>>
>>>
>>>I
defy anyone, (if that would be the
appropriate term), to say otherwise.
>>>
>>>
>>>And
no, I am not selling anything!
>>>
>>>
>>>Just
listen, and see if you come to a
different conclusion.
>>>
>>>
>>>Actually,
I think its sort of neat to see
someone come at from a different
angle, although he doesn't offer a
direct means to achieve this.  He
offers indirect means.  Not saying its
better or worse.  But its being
presented as though its a fresh
insight.  Nothing new about it.  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>>>
>>>
>>>How
do we break the habit of excessive
thinking?
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>   
>>>   How
do we break the
habit of excessive
thinking? 
>>>E

[FairfieldLife] Re: Researchers in Consciousness

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Xeno, 

 My comments are shown in red below:
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It seems fairly obvious that people experience different qualities of 
consciousness, but it is another matter to differentiate them in a hierarchy. 
Some qualities are clearer than others. One could argue that the experience of 
consciousness while drunk on alcohol is a less clear state than without the 
alcohol. Some might argue that the alcohol induced state is better than without.
 

 For those who are familiar with meditation, TM in particular, the various 
states of consciousness are very distinct and recognizable, such as the waking, 
sleeping and dreaming states.  However, most people who are not meditators will 
have difficulty in understanding the meaning of transcendental consciousness or 
samadhi in traditional vedic terminology.
 

 These people would have to experience samadhi in order to understand and 
differentiate the meanings of the higher consciousness such as the cosmic 
consciousness, God consciousness, and Unity consciousness.
 

 

 I have noticed that certain Indian Vedantists use the words consciousness and 
awareness differently: Consciousness is what the brain does; awareness is 
absolute being, that is, pure existential value. Awareness is what experiences 
but it is undefined and unseen and it has, and never had, any states, and is 
non-different from anything that is 'within' it. Consciousness begins and ends 
with the body, it is a sensor, like a thermostat (which has consciousness of 
whether a room is too hot or cold, but lacks the interpretive processor of a 
brain like ours to give meaning and understanding to what it does). Awareness 
does not do anything other than exist, the basic property of existence, so 
there is nothing direct that one can say about it. As in science, this is a 
special use of the terminology. Meditation does not reveal awareness, it is 
always present. Meditation alters consciousness, the way the brain processes 
and functions. Meditation has no effect on awareness.

 

 I cannot speak for the Vedantists and other groups, but in TM parlance, 
consciousness applies to the idea of Being that permeates everything in the 
phenomenal world.  Awareness can be synonymous to consciousness, but often 
refers to the individual recognition of his or her being in relationship to the 
entire Self or Being.
 

 Meditation is the practice or method to experience Being within one's mind and 
the physiology.  It is true that Being is always present in the individual.  
However, most people are not aware of It, nor understand it fully by relying on 
words and mood-making that have been described by their teachers and books of 
wisdom. 
 

 

 The comment about advanced accelerators is a total non sequitur. The LHC was 
designed to investigate the interaction of sub-atomic particles, not 
consciousness. EEGs, fMRI, brain surgery with electrical probes, biochemistry 
and meditation are used to investigate consciousness. I would argue as human 
beings we are machines, rather intricate and imperfect and fragile, but 
machines nonetheless, and at some point the machines stop working, which we 
call death. Meditators are not doing any work in the name of science unless 
they are actively engaged in science. Meditation is a specific kind of activity 
but it is not science, and its purport and goal is very different from science. 
You can do what you like in the name of science, even if it is not true your 
are doing any science. Most of the scientific lore about meditation is 
pseudoscience. 
 

 The point I'm making is that meditators are discovering and experiencing 
personally the higher dimensions that are being sought by scientists by their 
experience and understanding of the various states of consciousness.  These 
scientists believe that these higher dimensions are hidden and bundled within 
the spacetime continuum.  IMO, they are hoping that the LHC would eventually 
reveal these higher dimensions.
 

 But obviously the LHC is a complicated machine, but it cannot experience 
Being.  You can argue that the human mind and physiology is machine too.  
However, the human body is a biological machine with a unique property of 
recognizing and experiencing Being.
 

 Meditation is part of a strategy that is intended to answer the one question 
science cannot penetrate. And the answer has no words or concepts, so anything 
you say about it is basically untrue. Considering that goal is undefined, you 
can see there is a real problem here, in that any direct reference to it cannot 
be made, which could explain why spiritual engagement is so often contradictory 
in the extreme.

 

 The answer to the existence of the higher dimensions is located in the the 
awareness of the individual human being.  This same awareness also is available 
within the physiology of the scientists themselves, but have they have failed 
to recognize it. 
 

 Why? Because of their materialistic assump

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I remember meditating one time, and I saw a bug crawling in the corner of the 
room, and instead of a frightened response, which would have been normal for 
me, I noticed that that emotion got arrested before it could surface. 

 I mean, nothing earth shattering.  I just remember it as being sort of funny.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 OTOH, Byron Katie popped in while she was crouched in terror under a bed in 
the attic of a rehab house. And a cockroach crawled across her leg. Glad she 
didn't teach THAT as a technique!

 


 On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:21 PM, "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   Tolle just kind of popped into this state and then sat around on park 
benches for about two years before he began to function in it. Jiddu 
Krishnamurti also just seemed to slide into this state. So these people can 
talk about it, but seem to have trouble formulating a strategy for getting 
there, as they did not experience any strategy or path themselves. The problem 
of the path though is, if you experienced one, will it work for someone else? 
 

 There seem to be some methods common to spiritual traditions that seem to have 
some success, but the success rate is never astounding, most people just end up 
believing the understanding part of the process. The common methods seem to be 
1. some sort of meditation, and 2. some sort of understanding that the universe 
has differing aspects, which, 'in reality' are basically the same thing, and 3. 
if you moderate the mind's conceptualisation capacity sufficiently and reduce 
the intensity of persistent thoughts by means of these experiential and 
intellectual practises, all this might make sense sometime during the pursuit, 
provided you are sufficiently focused on the supposed goal. The goal is a 
supposition because you cannot know what it is before it manifests; you merely 
have a belief about what it might be, and that belief is false because it was 
not concerning a fact, but a metaphor.
 

 TM, as with other methods, appears to have a high failure rate, and its 
intellectual component is misleading as far as expectations.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Steve, I would say that Tolle is an enlightened person rather than an 
enlightened teacher. Meaning that he became enlightened and then began to teach 
what he thought got him enlightened. Like being in the Now. But imo, being in 
the Now is a result of being enlightened rather than a technique for getting 
enlightened. 

 


 On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:04 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 
 

   
 On 7/30/2014 8:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Especially to do so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation 
saying that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom in Presence. And he's 
right.
 


 >
 You idiot! Tolle believes transcending our ego-based state of consciousness is 
the way out of suffering and into peace. Apparently Eckhart Tolle practiced TM 
for many years, which was his first foray into a spiritual discipline. 
Apparently you don't even know what you are talking about. Send in the clowns!
 
 'A New Earth'
 Awakening to Your Life's Purpose
 by Eckhart Tolle
 Penguin, 2008
 http://tinyurl.com/3kzv9f http://tinyurl.com/3kzv9f
 
 'The Power of Now'
 A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment
 by Eckhart Tolle
 New World Library, 2004
 http://tinyurl.com/4tq6q5 http://tinyurl.com/4tq6q5
 >
 

 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
mailto:steve.sundur@...[FairfieldLife]  
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
 
 
   I listened to this. You realize that all he's talking about is trying to 
achieve the state of pure awareness, both by itself and as being present with 
other thoughts and activity.  It may be the first I really listened to anything 
he's said, but it's sort of remarkable, that the main gist of his teaching, or 
at least this little bit, is just, really, a piece of MMY's overall teaching.
 
 
 I defy anyone, (if that would be the appropriate term), to say otherwise.
 
 
 And no, I am not selling anything!
 
 
 Just listen, and see if you come to a different conclusion.
 
 
 Actually, I think its sort of neat to see someone come at from a different 
angle, although he doesn't offer a direct means to achieve this.  He offers 
indirect means.  Not saying its better or worse.  But its being presented as 
though its a fresh insight.  Nothing new about it.  
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:cardemaister@... wrote :
 
 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4
 
 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? Eckhart explores the powerful 
addiction to thinking, offe

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Definitely.  I'll give him his enlightenment, and respect him for it. 

 But I felt a little sorry for him, and his rapt audience to see him fumbling 
around trying to sell this pure awareness thing as an experience by itself, and 
a background for activity on the purely intellectual level.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Steve, I would say that Tolle is an enlightened person rather than an 
enlightened teacher. Meaning that he became enlightened and then began to teach 
what he thought got him enlightened. Like being in the Now. But imo, being in 
the Now is a result of being enlightened rather than a technique for getting 
enlightened. 

 


 On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:04 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 
 

   
 On 7/30/2014 8:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Especially to do so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation 
saying that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom in Presence. And he's 
right.
 


 >
 You idiot! Tolle believes transcending our ego-based state of consciousness is 
the way out of suffering and into peace. Apparently Eckhart Tolle practiced TM 
for many years, which was his first foray into a spiritual discipline. 
Apparently you don't even know what you are talking about. Send in the clowns!
 
 'A New Earth'
 Awakening to Your Life's Purpose
 by Eckhart Tolle
 Penguin, 2008
 http://tinyurl.com/3kzv9f http://tinyurl.com/3kzv9f
 
 'The Power of Now'
 A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment
 by Eckhart Tolle
 New World Library, 2004
 http://tinyurl.com/4tq6q5 http://tinyurl.com/4tq6q5
 >
 

 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
mailto:steve.sundur@...[FairfieldLife]  
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
 
 
   I listened to this. You realize that all he's talking about is trying to 
achieve the state of pure awareness, both by itself and as being present with 
other thoughts and activity.  It may be the first I really listened to anything 
he's said, but it's sort of remarkable, that the main gist of his teaching, or 
at least this little bit, is just, really, a piece of MMY's overall teaching.
 
 
 I defy anyone, (if that would be the appropriate term), to say otherwise.
 
 
 And no, I am not selling anything!
 
 
 Just listen, and see if you come to a different conclusion.
 
 
 Actually, I think its sort of neat to see someone come at from a different 
angle, although he doesn't offer a direct means to achieve this.  He offers 
indirect means.  Not saying its better or worse.  But its being presented as 
though its a fresh insight.  Nothing new about it.  
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:cardemaister@... wrote :
 
 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4
 
 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? Eckhart explores the powerful 
addiction to thinking, offering a handful of ways to put a stop to thoughts and 
choose presence instead.


 
 View on www.youtube.com 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
















 

 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I guess that's what's called a self fulfilling prophecy, this being "stuck" 
thing. 

 A ray of truth shines through!
 

 Amen brother.
 

 Step 1 initiated!
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 fleet is showing his enlightened state - if that's what comes out of an 
enlightened person's mind, I'll stick to ignorance

 

 From: salyavin808 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:45 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture
 
 
   

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Knowledge vs. wisdom - Sal has learned that he can wipe his ass with paper, or 
his bare hand. He doesn't choose between the two, and often uses his bare hand 
- ick. Fleetwood has learned that he can wipe his ass with paper, or his bare 
hand. He *wisely* chooses to use paper. Every time. Smell the difference, Sal? 
I hope so. :-)
 

 "Experiential truth corresponds to objective joy"  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 7/30/2014 7:05 AM, salyavin808 wrote:

   "Chopra mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge, 
to a world of wisdom."

 
 
 Good old Deepak, he can always be relied on to provide a meaningless statement 
that sounds profound:

 >
 You mean, compared to your meaningless post? Is my post meaningless? What is 
the difference between knowledge and wisdom? I would say that wisdom is making 
a pretence at being useful by virtue that it comes from someone claiming 
"higher" inspiration.  Received or untested knowledge is unreliable compared to 
scientifically derived knowledge because we are just taking someone's word for 
it. Deepak's statement may therefore actually be dangerous rather than merely 
tedious in leading people to think that pre-enlightenment* types of thinking 
are going to advance human society in any way other than accidentally. It'll be 
back to the stone age for us if we listen to Chopra.
 *The English enlightenment of the Royal Society and Isaac Newton etc.. 
  Chopra sounds like a genius in comparison! So, tell us again: what exactly, 
is your purpose in subscribing to this list? Go figure.
 I come here to chuckle at knuckle-heads like you 





  


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It's really pretty hilarious.  You've got this guy who is considered an apostle 
of new age thinking, and what's his sage advice to those who might look to him 
for guidance?  "Know that you are not the object of perception"  "Notice the 
space between thoughts"  And how to do that?  "Well, just keep reminding 
yourself!" 

 And then you've got someone like MJ who had clear transcending with TM, clear 
experiences of no mantra, no thoughts, (egads, Is that pure awareness?), and 
now insists he was a victim of the power of suggestion, and eats up this 
Eckhardt Tolle stuff.
 

 As our resident philosopher says, "You can't make this stuff up!"
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 What Steve is saying is that in terms of teaching spiritual concepts, 
Maharishi could whip Tolle, with one hand tied behind his back. No shit - Tolle 
has nothing to say of any importance, except wishful thinking and empty 
fantasies.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Sycophantic thinking. Pure Awareness, if it exists, was around long before 
Marshy became a blip on the world scene, and there were and are plenty of 
others who came before him, while he was here and after him who taught the same 
thing. To relate everything to him is pitiful and sycophantic. 

 Especially to do so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation saying 
that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom in Presence. And he's right.

 

 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
 
 
   I listened to this. You realize that all he's talking about is trying to 
achieve the state of pure awareness, both by itself and as being present with 
other thoughts and activity.  It may be the first I really listened to anything 
he's said, but it's sort of remarkable, that the main gist of his teaching, or 
at least this little bit, is just, really, a piece of MMY's overall teaching.
 

 I defy anyone, (if that would be the appropriate term), to say otherwise.
 

 And no, I am not selling anything!
 

 Just listen, and see if you come to a different conclusion.
 

 Actually, I think its sort of neat to see someone come at from a different 
angle, although he doesn't offer a direct means to achieve this.  He offers 
indirect means.  Not saying its better or worse.  But its being presented as 
though its a fresh insight.  Nothing new about it.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4
 
 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 Eckhart explores the powerful 
addiction to thinking, offering a handful of ways to put a stop to thoughts and 
choose presence instead.


 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  



 





 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie review: "Lucy"

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

Indeed it *is* a very spiritual film. Lucy's increased "access" to her 
brain is characterized by siddhis.  The "percentage" is just a metaphor 
to make the concept understandable.  Besson uses an action film device 
as a backdrop for the more cerebral concept (pardon the pun).  It's good 
that the general public is exposed to such ideas as I think they prefer 
being dumb as possible (lazy minded).  It won't win any big awards but 
it is a good action sci-fi thriller.  I didn't feel at all bad that I 
didn't save it for a disc rental.  Again, best seat in the house, back 
row right under the projector window.


On 07/28/2014 06:22 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


I talked with a very spiritual person who saw it and liked it a lot. 
 The person initially knowing the director then went to it because the 
reviews were so split,  thinking that is a good sign for a substantial 
movie.  On going to see Lucy over in Ottumwa with a very local crowd a 
lot of people seemed perturbed by the spiritual nature of the movie 
though evidently there was enough action to hold a rough crowd.


Jai Guru Dev,
-Buck


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

There is a good interview with Besson on Wired.com about the film and 
concept.  I also note that the FX version of  the Bridge may be 
dialing back a bit on Sonya's Aspergers.  I've noticed that many high 
IQ people may behave that way too but they are not sick.  They may 
not  even react without much empathy (as displayed in Lucy).  I think 
when cerebral you don't develop dealing with the world and people in 
emotional terms.


On 07/28/2014 01:09 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... 
 [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Luc Besson has done some great work in the past, but he is not to
be relied upon these days. He has so MANY projects going at once
-- as writer, producer, director, or all of the above -- that
inevitably some of them turn out OK, and others...uh...not so
much. But when he describes his intent for his new film "Lucy" as
a combination of "2001," "Inception," and "Leon: The
Professional," it's worth a watch.

And I thought it was pretty damned good. Yes, it uses that same
tired, untrue cliche about man using only 10% of his brain that
isn't really true, but he uses it as more of a metaphor than
anything else, popping up "percentage counts" as Lucy evolves and
starts to use more and more of hers. Good action, not braindead
scifi, and overall pretty entertaining.

Lucy Trailer (Trailer #1) - IMDb



image 





Lucy Trailer (Trailer #1) - IMDb

Watch the latest Lucy Trailer (Trailer #1) on IMDb

View on www.imdb.com 

Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 7/30/2014 1:01 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   From: "anartaxius@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:anartaxius@...[FairfieldLife] 
 mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 
   
 Knowledge is a familiarity, awareness or understanding of someone or 
something, such as facts, information, descriptions, or skills, which is 
acquired through experience or education by perceiving, discovering, or 
learning. Knowledge can refer to a theoretical or practical understanding of a 
subject. It can be implicit or explicit; it can be more or less formal or 
systematic. —Wikipedia
 
 
 Wisdom is the ability to think and act using knowledge, experience, 
understanding, common sense, and insight. This implies a possession of 
knowledge or the seeking thereof in order to apply it to the given 
circumstance. This involves an understanding of people, things, events, 
situations, and the willingness as well as the ability to apply perception, 
judgement, and action in keeping with the understanding of what is the optimum 
course of action. -Wikipedia
 
 
 Chopra is a continuous fountain of deepties.
 
 
 Deepity:
 Something that sounds profound but intellectually hollow. Usually has the 
following characteristics. 1. True but trivial 2. False and logically ill 
informed. 3. May contain a use-mention error (Confusing the word used to 
describe a thing, with the thing itself).
 
 
 The following are seven actual Chopra quotations intermixed with seven 
computer generated 'Wisdom of Chopra' quotations:
 
 
  1. You will be transformed by what you read.
  2. Eternal stillness is the wisdom of boundless happiness.
  3. Time is just quantified eternity.
  4. The world is more than the sum of its suffering.
  5. To expand the universe expand your mind.
  6. Nature explores ephemeral possibilities.
  7. Your heart comprehends the flow of fulfillment.
  8. When you make a choice you change the future.
  9. Quantum physics belongs to formless truth.
 10. The future gives rise to potential destiny.
 11. Happiness is a continuation of happenings which are not resisted.
 12. The more boundless your vision the more real you are.
 13. The ego is reborn in unparalleled silence.
 14. Transcendence unfolds through unbridled timelessness
 
 
 
 Excellent. That's really it. The guy is a half-wit. I consider myself 
fortunate that I missed him entirely by bailing from the TM organization so 
early. Otherwise I might have been tempted -- as a number of people here 
clearly were -- to view his "deepties" as actual wisdom. 
 
 I feel for those who do so, but then what can you expect? They mistook 
Maharishi's "deepties" for wisdom, so they've got incredibly low standards.











 >
 Here we go with the Chopra quotes again. I think Judy already debunked this 
"Wisdom of Chopra" scam - if she was still around maybe we could sort this out, 
apparently this is a hoax.  We already covered this and some of these quotes 
may be real quotes not made up by a bot. According to Judy, one of these quotes 
wasn't generated by the robot program after all. It's a genuine Chopra quote 
from an audiotape he made called "Seeing Through the Mask of Matter." The whole 
tape is transcribed here: 




 
  http://www.psychicjoystar.com/DeepakChopraMeditation.html 
 
 Barry's Chopra quote scam:
 [FairfieldLife] Barry's Chopra quote scam 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg311127.html 
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg311127.html 
 
 [FairfieldLife] Barry's Chopra quote scam 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg311127.html 
Well, whaddya know, Barry's been trying to pull a fast one on us with that 
Chopra quote all along. Advertising It wasn't generated by the robot program 
aft...
 
 
 
 View on www.mail-archive.com 
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg311127.html 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 





 
 
 
 




 
 
 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 12:30 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Knowledge is a familiarity, awareness or understanding of someone or 
something, such as facts, information, descriptions, or skills, which 
is acquired through experience or education by perceiving, 
discovering, or learning. Knowledge can refer to a theoretical or 
practical understanding of a subject. It can be implicit or explicit; 
it can be more or less formal or systematic. —Wikipedia

>
Did God Discover the God Particle?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deepak-chopra/god-particle_b_1674717.html
>


Wisdom is the ability to think and act using knowledge, experience, 
understanding, common sense, and insight. This implies a possession of 
knowledge or the seeking thereof in order to apply it to the given 
circumstance. This involves an understanding of people, things, 
events, situations, and the willingness as well as the ability to 
apply perception, judgement, and action in keeping with the 
understanding of what is the optimum course of action. -Wikipedia


Chopra is a continuous fountain of deepties.

Deepity:
Something that sounds profound but intellectually hollow. Usually has 
the following characteristics. 1. True but trivial 2. False and 
logically ill informed. 3. May contain a use-mention error (Confusing 
the word used to describe a thing, with the thing itself).


The following are seven actual Chopra quotations intermixed with seven 
computer generated 'Wisdom of Chopra' quotations:


 1. You will be transformed by what you read.
 2. Eternal stillness is the wisdom of boundless happiness.
 3. Time is just quantified eternity.
 4. The world is more than the sum of its suffering.
 5. To expand the universe expand your mind.
 6. Nature explores ephemeral possibilities.
 7. Your heart comprehends the flow of fulfillment.
 8. When you make a choice you change the future.
 9. Quantum physics belongs to formless truth.
10. The future gives rise to potential destiny.
11. Happiness is a continuation of happenings which are not resisted.
12. The more boundless your vision the more real you are.
13. The ego is reborn in unparalleled silence.
14. Transcendence unfolds through unbridled timelessness


My favourite real Deepak quote: 'Walk with those who are looking for 
the truth, run from those who think they have found it.' That pretty 
much eliminates the master-disciple relationship and puts you in the 
company of people who only know what is presumed false. The purpose of 
the master-disciple relationship is to get, for the disciple, the 
tools to find truth for oneself, assuming it exists. 'Master' is 
whatever you discover that brings you those tools. 'Master' need not 
be a person, or even someone who knows what truth is, it could just be 
something that gets you over the next step, even a quotation in a book 
or on a website. If truth does not exist, then the seeking will end in 
failure. If truth does exist, perhaps the seeking will still end in 
failure. Not a very hopeful situtation is it?  The whole universe is 
there; that might be a good place to start looking for truth. If truth 
exists, where would it be? What would it be? How could it be? Is truth 
that which is opposed to falsehood? Or is the world 'truth' begin used 
in a special sense that has nothing to do with truth and falsehood, 
and is a metaphor for something about which you have no idea, but 
think you do?




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"Chopra mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of 
knowledge, to a world of wisdom."


Good old Deepak, he can always be relied on to provide a meaningless 
statement that sounds profound:


Random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator 



image 


Random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator 
Random Deepak Chopra quotes generated at www.wisdomofchopra.com

View on www.wisdomofchopra.com 

Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 1:01 PM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
*From:* "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 



Knowledge is a familiarity, awareness or understanding of someone or 
something, such as facts, information, descriptions, or skills, which 
is acquired through experience or education by perceiving, 
discovering, or learning. Knowledge can refer to a theoretical or 
practical understanding of a subject. It can be implicit or explicit; 
it can be more or less formal or systematic. —Wikipedia


Wisdom is the ability to think and act using knowledge, experience, 
understanding, common sense, and insight. This implies a possession of 
knowledge or the seeking thereof in order to apply it to the given 
circumstance. This involves an understanding of people, things, 
events, situations, and the willingness as well as the ability to 
apply perception, judgement, and action in keeping with the 
understanding of what is the optimum course of action. -Wikipedia


Chopra is a continuous fountain of deepties.

Deepity:
Something that sounds profound but intellectually hollow. Usually has 
the following characteristics. 1. True but trivial 2. False and 
logically ill informed. 3. May contain a use-mention error (Confusing 
the word used to describe a thing, with the thing itself).


The following are seven actual Chopra quotations intermixed with seven 
computer generated 'Wisdom of Chopra' quotations:


 1. You will be transformed by what you read.
 2. Eternal stillness is the wisdom of boundless happiness.
 3. Time is just quantified eternity.
 4. The world is more than the sum of its suffering.
 5. To expand the universe expand your mind.
 6. Nature explores ephemeral possibilities.
 7. Your heart comprehends the flow of fulfillment.
 8. When you make a choice you change the future.
 9. Quantum physics belongs to formless truth.
10. The future gives rise to potential destiny.
11. Happiness is a continuation of happenings which are not resisted.
12. The more boundless your vision the more real you are.
13. The ego is reborn in unparalleled silence.
14. Transcendence unfolds through unbridled timelessness


Excellent. That's really it. The guy is a half-wit. I consider myself 
fortunate that I missed him entirely by bailing from the TM 
organization so early. Otherwise I might have been tempted -- as a 
number of people here clearly were -- to view his "deepties" as actual 
wisdom.


I feel for those who do so, but then what can you expect? They mistook 
Maharishi's "deepties" for wisdom, so they've got incredibly low 
standards.

>
Here we go with the Chopra quotes again. I think Judy already debunked 
this "Wisdom of Chopra" scam - if she was still around maybe we could 
sort this out, apparently this is a hoax.  We already covered this and 
some of these quotes may be real quotes not made up by a bot. According 
to Judy, one of these quotes wasn't generated by the robot program after 
all. It's a genuine Chopra quote from an audiotape he made called 
"Seeing Through the Mask of Matter." The whole tape is transcribed here:


 http://www.psychicjoystar.com/DeepakChopraMeditation.html 



Barry's Chopra quote scam:
http://www.mail-archive.com/fairfieldlife%40yahoogroups.com/msg311127.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

well, let's face it Michael, your universe is gurucentric. 

 Maybe at some point you will be able to broaden your view beyond that, but at 
the rate your going, it could actually be in about a decade.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 If I still held to old notions I would believe that the archangels would come 
change everything - and they will, just like Marshy changed everything - which 
means we will all be lucky if the world doesn't implode in a decade, cuz all 
the gettin' saved by a higher power or a lying guru ain't gonna happen.

 

 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:31 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture
 
 
   I sort of get the feeling that you are describing your own beliefs more than 
anything else.  I think most have a more balanced notion of how things will 
play out, likely greater spirituality coexisting with greater societal controls.
 

 You claim otherwise, but I think you still hold on to your previously held new 
age notions of how things will play out.
 

 You are the one with the history of channeling.  And last I heard, you still 
buy into it, in terms of "was it real, or was it memorex" type of thing.  (-:
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up" 

 

 Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is actually 
happening.  

 

 We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist 
movements the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was in the 
late 1800's with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact it was Helena 
Blavatsky and her successors Annie Besant and Alice Bailey who laid the 
foundations for the current New Age baloney that people love to believe today.
 

 In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. In the 
past the logistics of terrain and distance would keep some societies and 
cultures intact when others were overwhelmed or imploded, but today who knows 
what will happen. All this stuff about a world enlightenment is a very very 
fine idea and I wish it would happen, but its pure fantasy. 
 

 I am sure all the true believers will believe it up to the very moment that 
storm troopers kick down your door and haul you off. You can offer to get them 
initiated into TM while they burn your house.
 

 The other interesting thing is that the TM true believers all really believe 
the "awakening" will occur when most of the world suddenly falls in love with 
Marshy and run to get David Lynch's "darshan" (I'd rather smell a dead skunk 
myself) and get initiated into TM. 

 

 Meanwhile the New Agers think everyone will be spontaneously floating into 
ascension, meaning their bodies become the perfect 4th dimensional template it 
really is, the ufo crowd think the "Space Brothers" will come and give us all 
kinds of all sorts of marvelous technology that will allow us to have world 
peace, end hunger, eradicate illness and so on.
 

 Nabby must have the most interesting idea of the Age of E where David Lynch 
becomes a god of some sort, sort of like Jesus underneath Marshy's position as 
God, everyone becomes a TM'er and does TM and of course TMSP will be mandatory 
for all and sundry. 

 

 Everyone will do TM except for people like me, Barry, Curtis and Sal who will 
all be herded into a vastu veda prison and closely watched to make sure we 
don't excape. We'll probably have our tongues cut out so we won't spout any TM 
blasphemy that might corrupt the noble Purusha men who will be our guards. 

 

 All the existing buildings will be destroyed to make way for an all Marshy 
vastu ved building project that the Movement will get well paid for. All 
celebrations of any kind will be replaced with Hindu celebrations and in fact 
all religions will be banned in favor of Marshy's superstitious brand of 
pseudo-Hinduism.

 

 Meanwhile the Space Brothers will come down and give us all the techno that we 
need and of course Maitreya will appear and institute the New World Order. Now 
this will be interesting because to fulfill Nabby's fantasies, either Maitreya 
will have to teach everyone TM, or all the TM'ers will have to replace Marshy 
as god with Maitreya. What a dilemma!

 From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:05 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture
 
 
   I agree that it is a start - Interesting times - Someone, Chopra I think, 
mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge, to a world 
of wisdom. The world is waking up, however with so many coming out of their 
stupor, it is creating quite a commotion. So many groups and individuals are 
now expressing their needs, all clamoring for a voice, in our new, 
seamlessly-connected world. Everybody feels importa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Michael, feel free to spin it anyway you want.  What the guy is talking about 
is pure awareness experienced by itself, and as a background to other thoughts 
and activity.  I am sorry if that upsets you. 

 Then he goes about, clumsily, I might add, on how one might go about achieving 
or experiencing that.
 

 And by the way, yes, I figured out, somewhere along the way that MMY didn't 
invent pure awareness, "if it exists", but you do have a propensity of 
dismissing most spiritual traditions as examples of the "power of suggestion", 
except the practices or modalities you endorse, of course, or at least try to 
make a buck on.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Sycophantic thinking. Pure Awareness, if it exists, was around long before 
Marshy became a blip on the world scene, and there were and are plenty of 
others who came before him, while he was here and after him who taught the same 
thing. To relate everything to him is pitiful and sycophantic. 

 Especially to do so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation saying 
that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom in Presence. And he's right.

 

 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
 
 
   I listened to this. You realize that all he's talking about is trying to 
achieve the state of pure awareness, both by itself and as being present with 
other thoughts and activity.  It may be the first I really listened to anything 
he's said, but it's sort of remarkable, that the main gist of his teaching, or 
at least this little bit, is just, really, a piece of MMY's overall teaching.
 

 I defy anyone, (if that would be the appropriate term), to say otherwise.
 

 And no, I am not selling anything!
 

 Just listen, and see if you come to a different conclusion.
 

 Actually, I think its sort of neat to see someone come at from a different 
angle, although he doesn't offer a direct means to achieve this.  He offers 
indirect means.  Not saying its better or worse.  But its being presented as 
though its a fresh insight.  Nothing new about it.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4
 
 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 Eckhart explores the powerful 
addiction to thinking, offering a handful of ways to put a stop to thoughts and 
choose presence instead.


 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  



 





 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 12:56 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:


"No inventiveness, or new ideas, or even interesting events, in any of 
your lives - just some worn out wrinkled white dudes, casting their 
bitterness like birdseed, to any pigeons they can find - a trio of sad 
old fuckers, imo."



This is funny :-) Yet I wonder why you waste your time reading the 
posts of this trio. I've stopped bother reading these nitwits long 
ago, sal only recently. MJ is obviously an older guy about to 
implode, the Turq being well just old, an old fart in repeat mode as 
old people often are.



>
We should start calling them the "Gang of Three' or the "Three Amigos" 
or something. They are doing their best at keeping the FFL conversation 
going. You can tell they are hanging on our every word. Without them all 
we would have are the postings of Rick and Alex.


Thank Gawd Ann and Share are still here to add a little balance to the 
group. What we need is some new guys to pick on - this current gang 
aren't much of a challenge anymore. It looks like Judy Stein and John 
Manning have timed out - maybe they went to the same place as Dr. Pete.


Manning was posting on several newsgroups, Yahoo! FFL, 
alt.meditation.transcendental, alt.religion.mormon, alt.bible.prophecy, 
alt.atheism, soc.culture.jewish, alt.religion, the last time he posted 
was on Friday 4/11/2014 and then he just was gone. Go figure.


https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!searchin/alt.religion.mormon/john$20manning|sort:date/alt.religion.mormon/PMC4vNuhy7w/AdLMvQe6X3kJ 


>




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I am not a bigot, regarding all things TM - It is my personal 
preference. As to your assumption that I am a fundamentalist, in that 
regard, you are mistaken. TM is the most effective technique, on the 
planet, for dissolving boundaries. So what? It does not get a person, 
me, or anyone else, enlightened. It is simply a very, very, very 
useful tool, if one is so inclined.


So, as far as I am concerned, do your own thing, MJ, which apparently 
consists of misplacing your hurt, and failure, and deciding that it is 
the big bad TMO and Maharishi, that are the source of 99% of your 
woes, and anybody else's, who may have meditated, using TM. Please, 
get a life.


You have become boring. Edg says some outrageous stuff about the TMO 
and Maharishi and all of that - And he also posts amazing vids of 
whizzing around on this machine he built. How cool is that? Ann 
doesn't really see the utility or meaningfulness of enlightenment, and 
instead raises and rides horses, in the country. Incredibly great!


But you point to yourself, Turq (aka bawee), and Sal, as the clear 
eyed ones on here, the ones that really "get it". I see the three of 
you as some of the laziest, uncreative, and slothful posters, on this 
forum. What the fuck do any of you really do, except knock down the 
ideas and hopes of others, and recycle the past, under the guise of 
cheap wit, and "scientific thinking"?? No inventiveness, or new ideas, 
or even interesting events, in any of your lives - just some worn out 
wrinkled white dudes, casting their bitterness like birdseed, to any 
pigeons they can find - a trio of sad old fuckers, imo.


PS My good friend and neighbor, at the trailer park I live in 
sometimes, is 82 years old, and he comes across, as hell of a lot 
younger, than you guys who "get it", do. Something to think about.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

you are full of it! You have said repeatedly that you are enlightened 
and you got there by doing TM - you have consistently praised TM and 
Marshy - go read your own posts if you don't believe it.


*From:* "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:55 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu 
Architecture


Yes, the world is waking up - even you are far more vocal and active 
about your dislike of TM and Maharishi than even a few months ago. 
That is what I mean. In addition, wars, crime and violence are 
lessening, according to the statistics people keep. So, please keep 
your weak and cynical thinking to yourself. There is enough to do, 
without you nipping at my heels.


Next, please reread my previous post for ANY mention of TM, etc. There 
isn't any. You are so blind and crazed by your pathetic quest, that 
you have become unhinged. I used to think that you were leavening this 
one pointed idiocy with some introspection, but no, you are simply 
using all things TMO as a dodge for something that is bugging the shit 
out of you. Has your wife stopped having sex with you? Do you work for 
a lousy boss? Whatever it is, fix the issue in your personal life, 
first, before you continue your mindless ranting. What a tiresome 
moron you have become. Too bad.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 12:17 PM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


I am not a bigot, regarding all things TM - It is my personal 
preference. As to your assumption that I am a fundamentalist, in that 
regard, you are mistaken. TM is the most effective technique, on the 
planet, for dissolving boundaries. So what? It does not get a person, 
me, or anyone else, enlightened. It is simply a very, very, very 
useful tool, if one is so inclined.



So, as far as I am concerned, do your own thing, MJ, which apparently 
consists of misplacing your hurt, and failure, and deciding that it is 
the big bad TMO and Maharishi, that are the source of 99% of your 
woes, and anybody else's, who may have meditated, using TM. Please, 
get a life.


You have become boring. Edg says some outrageous stuff about the TMO 
and Maharishi and all of that - And he also posts amazing vids of 
whizzing around on this machine he built. How cool is that? Ann 
doesn't really see the utility or meaningfulness of enlightenment, and 
instead raises and rides horses, in the country. Incredibly great!


But you point to yourself, Turq (aka bawee), and Sal, as the clear 
eyed ones on here, the ones that really "get it". I see the three of 
you as some of the laziest, uncreative, and slothful posters, on this 
forum. What the fuck do any of you really do, except knock down the 
ideas and hopes of others, and recycle the past, under the guise of 
cheap wit, and "scientific thinking"?? No inventiveness, or new ideas, 
or even interesting events, in any of your lives - just some worn out 
wrinkled white dudes, casting their bitterness like birdseed, to any 
pigeons they can find - a trio of sad old fuckers, imo.

>
They really suck as spiritual teachers which is apparently why they got 
kicked out of the TMO - and for mooching. You can tell when someone is 
getting old when they talk about the past all the time instead of where 
they are going.

>


PS My good friend and neighbor, at the trailer park I live in 
sometimes, is 82 years old, and he comes across, as hell of a lot 
younger, than you guys who "get it", do. Something to think about.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

you are full of it! You have said repeatedly that you are enlightened 
and you got there by doing TM - you have consistently praised TM and 
Marshy - go read your own posts if you don't believe it.



*From:* "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:55 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu 
Architecture


Yes, the world is waking up - even you are far more vocal and active 
about your dislike of TM and Maharishi than even a few months ago. 
That is what I mean. In addition, wars, crime and violence are 
lessening, according to the statistics people keep. So, please keep 
your weak and cynical thinking to yourself. There is enough to do, 
without you nipping at my heels.


Next, please reread my previous post for ANY mention of TM, etc. There 
isn't any. You are so blind and crazed by your pathetic quest, that 
you have become unhinged. I used to think that you were leavening this 
one pointed idiocy with some introspection, but no, you are simply 
using all things TMO as a dodge for something that is bugging the shit 
out of you. Has your wife stopped having sex with you? Do you work for 
a lousy boss? Whatever it is, fix the issue in your personal life, 
first, before you continue your mindless ranting. What a tiresome 
moron you have become. Too bad.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up"

Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is 
actually happening.


We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist 
movements the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was 
in the late 1800's with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact 
it was Helena Blavatsky and her successors Annie Besant and Alice 
Bailey who laid the foundations for the current New Age baloney that 
people love to believe today.


In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. 
In the past the logistics of terrain and distance would keep some 
societies and cultures intact when others were overwhelmed or 
imploded, but today who knows what will happen. All this stuff about a 
world enlightenment is a very very fine idea and I wish it would 
happen, but its pure fantasy.


I am sure all the true believers will believe it up to the very moment 
that storm troopers kick down your door and haul you off. You can 
offer to get them initiated into TM while they burn your house.


The other interesting thing is that the TM true believers all really 
believe the "awakening" will occur when most of the world suddenly 
falls in love with Marshy and run to get David Lynch's 

[FairfieldLife] It happen only in India !

[nablusoss1008]

It happen only in India !Amazing. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9h5VFnTbT4
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9h5VFnTbT4 
 
 It happen only in India !Amazing. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9h5VFnTbT4 It happen only in India 
!Amazing.,Bike Ride
 
 
 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9h5VFnTbT4 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ha-ha - "in repeat mode" - I pop in from time to time, and I got annoyed this 
morning. Nothing wrong with wasting time, either, once in a while. If I didn't, 
I'd run myself into the ground - since I was very young, I have always worked 
on many projects, at the same time. FFL is an interesting place to visit, even 
"the trio of sad old fuckers" - lol, and a place to rest, too.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "No inventiveness, or new ideas, or even interesting events, in any of your 
lives - just some worn out wrinkled white dudes, casting their bitterness like 
birdseed, to any pigeons they can find - a trio of sad old fuckers, imo."
 

 This is funny :-) Yet I wonder why you waste your time reading the posts of 
this trio. I've stopped bother reading these nitwits long ago, sal only 
recently. MJ is obviously an older guy about to implode, the Turq being well 
just old, an old fart in repeat mode as old people often are. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am not a bigot, regarding all things TM - It is my personal preference. As 
to your assumption that I am a fundamentalist, in that regard, you are 
mistaken. TM is the most effective technique, on the planet, for dissolving 
boundaries. So what? It does not get a person, me, or anyone else, enlightened. 
It is simply a very, very, very useful tool, if one is so inclined. 

 So, as far as I am concerned, do your own thing, MJ, which apparently consists 
of misplacing your hurt, and failure, and deciding that it is the big bad TMO 
and Maharishi, that are the source of 99% of your woes, and anybody else's, who 
may have meditated, using TM. Please, get a life.
 

 You have become boring. Edg says some outrageous stuff about the TMO and 
Maharishi and all of that - And he also posts amazing vids of whizzing around 
on this machine he built. How cool is that? Ann doesn't really see the utility 
or meaningfulness of enlightenment, and instead raises and rides horses, in the 
country. Incredibly great!
 

 But you point to yourself, Turq (aka bawee), and Sal, as the clear eyed ones 
on here, the ones that really "get it". I see the three of you as some of the 
laziest, uncreative, and slothful posters, on this forum. What the fuck do any 
of you really do, except knock down the ideas and hopes of others, and recycle 
the past, under the guise of cheap wit, and "scientific thinking"?? No 
inventiveness, or new ideas, or even interesting events, in any of your lives - 
just some worn out wrinkled white dudes, casting their bitterness like 
birdseed, to any pigeons they can find - a trio of sad old fuckers, imo.
 

 PS My good friend and neighbor, at the trailer park I live in sometimes, is 82 
years old, and he comes across, as hell of a lot younger, than you guys who 
"get it", do. Something to think about.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 you are full of it! You have said repeatedly that you are enlightened and you 
got there by doing TM - you have consistently praised TM and Marshy - go read 
your own posts if you don't believe it.

 

 
 From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture
 
 
   Yes, the world is waking up - even you are far more vocal and active about 
your dislike of TM and Maharishi than even a few months ago. That is what I 
mean. In addition, wars, crime and violence are lessening, according to the 
statistics people keep. So, please keep your weak and cynical thinking to 
yourself. There is enough to do, without you nipping at my heels. 


 Next, please reread my previous post for ANY mention of TM, etc. There isn't 
any. You are so blind and crazed by your pathetic quest, that you have become 
unhinged. I used to think that you were leavening this one pointed idiocy with 
some introspection, but no, you are simply using all things TMO as a dodge for 
something that is bugging the shit out of you. Has your wife stopped having sex 
with you? Do you work for a lousy boss? Whatever it is, fix the issue in your 
personal life, first, before you continue your mindless ranting. What a 
tiresome moron you have become. Too bad.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up" 

 

 Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is actually 
happening.  

 

 We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist 
movements the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was in the 
late 1800's with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact it was Helena 
Blavatsky and her successors Annie Besant and Alice Bailey who laid the 
foundations for the current New Age baloney that people love to believe today.
 

 In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. In the 
past the logistics of terrain and distance would ke

[FairfieldLife] This Sat. Aug. 2: Vedic Experiences with Maharishi's Comments and Stories at Int'l Vedic Conference

[Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife]]

Suzanne, a gifted artist and healer, has had experiences of the Veda for 
decades, and Maharishi has validated them! I believe her presentation will be 
fascinating! Please feel welcome to join us!
Dick


From: Suzanne Stryker 

Personal Vedic Experiences with Maharishi's Comments and Stories
This Saturday   August 23:15 PM
Festival Hall - Upstairs in Argiro Center 
Fairfield, Iowa  USA

You are invited to hear my presentation at the upcoming international 
conference on Veda (WAVES), this Saturday, August 2, in Fairfield, Iowa, in the 
Argiro Center, upstairs in the Festival Hall. It took four of the committee 
members to convince me to give this presentation on my personal experiences of 
Veda and Maharishi’s comments. I will tell several personal stories of being 
with him. The session I am in starts at 3:15 PM, with the Arenanders showing 
brain waves of some of us who have Vedic experiences, then I will speak and 
then Jonathan Shapiro. 

If it seems appropriate, after the session is over I will offer a drawing to 
win a free 20 minute personal session with me. If you would like to help pass 
out drawing slips or videotape the session,please let me know.

There is no charge for any of the conference sessions.

Parking tip: Since people are coming from around the world for this conference, 
parking will be congested around the Argiro Center. You might find it easier to 
park at a distance and walk.

Schedules for the conference will be in the Argiro Center and domes.

Looking forward to seeing you there,

Suzanne B. Stryker
grouph...@gmail.com
641 – 472 – 7767

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Raiders are Moving to San Antonio?

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

A lot of people in the Bay Area hate Raider's fans. They can be a bit 
brutish like Oakland!  The Oakland A's though are more popular than 
the SF Giants.


On 07/30/2014 12:59 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Mike,


I'm not sure if the city of Oakland understands this is a bluff. 
 They're desperate on keeping the team in the city that they'd be 
willing to build a new stadium for the team, even though it would be a 
burden for the people.


But I don't understand why the team doesn't move back to Los Angeles, 
a big metropolitan area which does not have a football team.  It could 
also mean that the city of LA does not want to build a new stadium for 
the team.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

It's a bluff. The *sombrero* dome isn't NFL quality. It needs to be 
mucho mas grande!



On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:22 PM, "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:



Or is this just a bluff to get a new stadium in Oakland, CA?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/oakland-raiders-owner-talks-to-san-antonio-about-move-232336327.html#

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 9:55 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Yes, the world is waking up - even you are far more vocal and active 
about your dislike of TM and Maharishi than even a few months ago. 
That is what I mean. In addition, wars, crime and violence are 
lessening, according to the statistics people keep. So, please keep 
your weak and cynical thinking to yourself. There is enough to do, 
without you nipping at my heels.



>
The terrorists are killing thousands and trying to take over the Middle 
East and the Russians shoot down a civilian passenger jet killing 296 
and are trying to take over Ukraine, but his enemy is MMY. Go figure.

>



Next, please reread my previous post for ANY mention of TM, etc. There 
isn't any. You are so blind and crazed by your pathetic quest, that 
you have become unhinged. I used to think that you were leavening this 
one pointed idiocy with some introspection, but no, you are simply 
using all things TMO as a dodge for something that is bugging the shit 
out of you. Has your wife stopped having sex with you? Do you work for 
a lousy boss? Whatever it is, fix the issue in your personal life, 
first, before you continue your mindless ranting. What a tiresome 
moron you have become. Too bad.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up"

Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is 
actually happening.


We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist 
movements the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was 
in the late 1800's with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact 
it was Helena Blavatsky and her successors Annie Besant and Alice 
Bailey who laid the foundations for the current New Age baloney that 
people love to believe today.


In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. 
In the past the logistics of terrain and distance would keep some 
societies and cultures intact when others were overwhelmed or 
imploded, but today who knows what will happen. All this stuff about a 
world enlightenment is a very very fine idea and I wish it would 
happen, but its pure fantasy.


I am sure all the true believers will believe it up to the very moment 
that storm troopers kick down your door and haul you off. You can 
offer to get them initiated into TM while they burn your house.


The other interesting thing is that the TM true believers all really 
believe the "awakening" will occur when most of the world suddenly 
falls in love with Marshy and run to get David Lynch's "darshan" (I'd 
rather smell a dead skunk myself) and get initiated into TM.


Meanwhile the New Agers think everyone will be spontaneously floating 
into ascension, meaning their bodies become the perfect 4th 
dimensional template it really is, the ufo crowd think the "Space 
Brothers" will come and give us all kinds of all sorts of marvelous 
technology that will allow us to have world peace, end hunger, 
eradicate illness and so on.


Nabby must have the most interesting idea of the Age of E where David 
Lynch becomes a god of some sort, sort of like Jesus underneath 
Marshy's position as God, everyone becomes a TM'er and does TM and of 
course TMSP will be mandatory for all and sundry.


Everyone will do TM except for people like me, Barry, Curtis and Sal 
who will all be herded into a vastu veda prison and closely watched to 
make sure we don't excape. We'll probably have our tongues cut out so 
we won't spout any TM blasphemy that might corrupt the noble Purusha 
men who will be our guards.


All the existing buildings will be destroyed to make way for an all 
Marshy vastu ved building project that the Movement will get well paid 
for. All celebrations of any kind will be replaced with Hindu 
celebrations and in fact all religions will be banned in favor of 
Marshy's superstitious brand of pseudo-Hinduism.


Meanwhile the Space Brothers will come down and give us all the techno 
that we need and of course Maitreya will appear and institute the New 
World Order. Now this will be interesting because to fulfill Nabby's 
fantasies, either Maitreya will have to teach everyone TM, or all the 
TM'ers will have to replace Marshy as god with Maitreya. What a dilemma!


*From:* "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:05 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

I agree that it is a start - Interesting times - Someone, Chopra I 
think, mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of 
knowledge, to a world of wisdom. The world is waking up, however with 
so many coming out of their stupor, it is creating quite a commotion. 
So many groups and individuals are now expressing their needs, all 
clamoring for a voice, in our new, seamlessly-connected world. 
Every

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Raiders are Moving to San Antonio?

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Mike, 

 I'm not sure if the city of Oakland understands this is a bluff.  They're 
desperate on keeping the team in the city that they'd be willing to build a new 
stadium for the team, even though it would be a burden for the people.
 

 But I don't understand why the team doesn't move back to Los Angeles, a big 
metropolitan area which does not have a football team.  It could also mean that 
the city of LA does not want to build a new stadium for the team.
 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It's a bluff. The *sombrero* dome isn't NFL quality. It needs to be mucho mas 
grande!
 


 On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:22 PM, "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   Or is this just a bluff to get a new stadium in Oakland, CA?
 

 
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/oakland-raiders-owner-talks-to-san-antonio-about-move-232336327.html#
 
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/oakland-raiders-owner-talks-to-san-antonio-about-move-232336327.html#


 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 9:53 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
I honestly don't know which is worse -- people who are so dim as to 
actually believe the shit that Maharishi and Chopra and Hagelin say 
after all these years, or the ones who realize that it's bullshit but 
go along with it anyway out of fear of no longer being considered 
"spiritual." 

>
Maybe some of us don't want to go along with it. Go figure.

/"The person levitating or flying through the air was a guy named 
Frederick Lenz, who also called himself Rama."/


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231

[FairfieldLife] Earlier this summer a 100.000.-£ reward was offered to any humans that could

[nablusoss1008]

duplicate a specific Crop Circle, not the one below. Needless to say there were 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Beta Marriages

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Share, 

 Your mother probably has the conjunction of Mars and Venus which often leads 
to multiple marriages.  But it's likely she has a benefic in the 12th house, 
which represents her 6th husband.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 John, my Mom found her ideal husband in her 6th marriage. Which house would 
that be?
 


 On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 8:31 PM, "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   Share,
 

 Geraldo Rivera has been married four times, the fourth being the most stable.  
So, it's more likely that his 10 house has a strong benefic in it, using the 
Parasara technique of jyotish.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Fortunately my age automatically protects me from such men (-:
 


 On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:36 PM, "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   Geraldo Rivera has stirred the pot once again with his idea about what a 
woman brings to a marriage--which is her youth.  What do you think?
 

 Geraldo Rivera Causes Controversy: 'What a Woman Brings to a Marriage More 
Than Anything Else ... Is Her Youth' 
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/oddnews/geraldo-rivera-causes-controversy---what-a-woman-brings-to-a-marriage-more-than-anything-else-is-her-youth-185058495.html

 
 
 
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 On Monday, Geraldo Rivera, no stranger to controversy, stirred things up again 
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[FairfieldLife] Theory of Consciousness

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

They have theories, but these don't fit the nature of Being, IMO.
 

 http://news.yahoo.com/scientists-closing-theory-consciousness-171512875.html 
http://news.yahoo.com/scientists-closing-theory-consciousness-171512875.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Your interpretation that I said you are a fundamentalist - I didn't say it.

How can an enlightened person be bored?

I do sometimes forget to include Edg as one of the more astute posters here on 
FFL. 


I feel no "hurt" over my TM fanaticism and  - that only lasted a very brief 
time in my dealing with my TM past. Again it is your (and others here) mistaken 
assumption that I am a failure (not true) and that I "blame" things on TMO and 
Marshy. 


It is no more blame to look and see a man walk into a bank, pull out a gun and 
demand money and to then call him a thief, robber, crook or criminal than it is 
to see clearly the crimes of Marshy and Company and call them liars and crooks 
cause that is what they were and are. No judgment or blaming - just seeing and 
expressing name and form.




 From: "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture
 


  
I am not a bigot, regarding all things TM - It is my personal preference. As to 
your assumption that I am a fundamentalist, in that regard, you are mistaken. 
TM is the most effective technique, on the planet, for dissolving boundaries. 
So what? It does not get a person, me, or anyone else, enlightened. It is 
simply a very, very, very useful tool, if one is so inclined.

So, as far as I am concerned, do your own thing, MJ, which apparently consists 
of misplacing your hurt, and failure, and deciding that it is the big bad TMO 
and Maharishi, that are the source of 99% of your woes, and anybody else's, who 
may have meditated, using TM. Please, get a life.

You have become boring. Edg says some outrageous stuff about the TMO and 
Maharishi and all of that - And he also posts amazing vids of whizzing around 
on this machine he built. How cool is that? Ann doesn't really see the utility 
or meaningfulness of enlightenment, and instead raises and rides horses, in the 
country. Incredibly great!

But you point to yourself, Turq (aka bawee), and Sal, as the clear eyed ones on 
here, the ones that really "get it". I see the three of you as some of the 
laziest, uncreative, and slothful posters, on this forum. What the fuck do any 
of you really do, except knock down the ideas and hopes of others, and recycle 
the past, under the guise of cheap wit, and "scientific thinking"?? No 
inventiveness, or new ideas, or even interesting events, in any of your lives - 
just some worn out wrinkled white dudes, casting their bitterness like 
birdseed, to any pigeons they can find - a trio of sad old fuckers, imo.

PS My good friend and neighbor, at the trailer park I live in sometimes, is 82 
years old, and he comes across, as hell of a lot younger, than you guys who 
"get it", do. Something to think about.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


you are full of it! You have said repeatedly that you are enlightened and you 
got there by doing TM - you have consistently praised TM and Marshy - go read 
your own posts if you don't believe it.




 From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture



 
Yes, the world is waking up - even you are far more vocal and active about your 
dislike of TM and Maharishi than even a few months ago. That is what I mean. In 
addition, wars, crime and violence are lessening, according to the statistics 
people keep. So, please keep your weak and cynical thinking to yourself. There 
is enough to do, without you nipping at my heels. 


Next, please reread my previous post for ANY mention of TM, etc. There isn't 
any. You are so blind and crazed by your pathetic quest, that you have become 
unhinged. I used to think that you were leavening this one pointed idiocy with 
some introspection, but no, you are simply using all things TMO as a dodge for 
something that is bugging the shit out of you. Has your wife stopped having sex 
with you? Do you work for a lousy boss? Whatever it is, fix the issue in your 
personal life, first, before you continue your mindless ranting. What a
tiresome moron you have become. Too bad.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up" 


Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is
actually happening.  


We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist movements 
the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was in the late 1800's 
with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact it was Helena Blavatsky and 
her successors Annie Besant and Alice Bailey who laid the foundations for the 
current New Age baloney that people love to believe today.

In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. In the 
past the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I prefer UG Krisnamurti - now there was a REAL enlightened man.




 From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:19 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
 


  
Tolle just kind of popped into this state and then sat around on park benches 
for about two years before he began to function in it. Jiddu Krishnamurti also 
just seemed to slide into this state. So these people can talk about it, but 
seem to have trouble formulating a strategy for getting there, as they did not 
experience any strategy or path themselves. The problem of the path though is, 
if you experienced one, will it work for someone else? 

There seem to be some methods common to spiritual traditions that seem to have 
some success, but the success rate is never astounding, most people just end up 
believing the understanding part of the process. The common methods seem to be 
1. some sort of meditation, and 2. some sort of understanding that the universe 
has differing aspects, which, 'in reality' are basically the same thing, and 3. 
if you moderate the mind's conceptualisation capacity sufficiently and reduce 
the intensity of persistent thoughts by means of these experiential and 
intellectual practises, all this might make sense sometime during the pursuit, 
provided you are sufficiently focused on the supposed goal. The goal is a 
supposition because you cannot know what it is before it manifests; you merely 
have a belief about what it might be, and that belief is false because it was 
not concerning a fact, but a metaphor.

TM, as with other methods, appears to have a high failure rate, and its 
intellectual component is misleading as far as expectations.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Steve, I would say that Tolle is an enlightened person rather than an 
enlightened teacher. Meaning that he became enlightened and then began to teach 
what he thought got him enlightened. Like being in the Now. But imo, being in 
the Now is a result of being enlightened rather than a technique for getting 
enlightened. 



On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:04 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



 
On 7/30/2014 8:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

 
>>Especially to do
so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation
saying that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom
in Presence. And he's right.
>>
>
>You idiot! Tolle believes transcending our ego-based state of
consciousness is the way out of suffering and into peace. Apparently
Eckhart Tolle practiced TM for many years, which was his first foray
into a spiritual discipline. Apparently you don't even know what you
are talking about. Send in the clowns!
>
>'A New Earth'
>Awakening to Your Life's Purpose
>by Eckhart Tolle
>Penguin, 2008
>http://tinyurl.com/3kzv9f 
>
>'The Power of Now'
>A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment
>by Eckhart Tolle
>New World Library, 2004
>http://tinyurl.com/4tq6q5
>>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
>>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>I
listened to this. You realize that all
he's talking about is trying to
achieve the state of pure awareness,
both by itself and as being present
with other thoughts and activity.  It
may be the first I really listened to
anything he's said, but it's sort of
remarkable, that the main gist of his
teaching, or at least this little bit,
is just, really, a piece of MMY's
overall teaching.
>>
>>
>>I
defy anyone, (if that would be the
appropriate term), to say otherwise.
>>
>>
>>And
no, I am not selling anything!
>>
>>
>>Just
listen, and see if you come to a
different conclusion.
>>
>>
>>Actually,
I think its sort of neat to see
someone come at from a different
angle, although he doesn't offer a
direct means to achieve this.  He
offers indirect means.  Not saying its
better or worse.  But its being
presented as though its a fresh
insight.  Nothing new about it.  
>>
>>
>>
>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>>
>>
>>How
do we break the habit of excessive
thinking?
>>
>> 
>>
>>   
>>   How
do we break the
habit of excessive
thinking? 
>>Eckhart
explores the
powerful addiction
to thinking,
offering a handful
of ways to put a
stop to thoughts and
choose presence
instead. 
>> 
>>View on www.youtube.com   Preview by Yahoo  
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Culture of Suffering

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Like (-;



On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:45 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' 
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
On 7/29/2014 3:26 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:

  
>As we can see from the news today,  humans are intent on killing each other.  
>Is it because the human mind and physiology are inherently violent?  Or is it 
>an indication that humans are just unhappy about life here on Earth?
>
Sometimes you have to use a thorn to remove a thorn. 

There's not much you can do individually to bring world peace except
meditate and be peaceful yourself. Short of taking up arms to fight
the enemies of the open society, what you do every day won't make
such a big difference in world events. However, having faith in the
perfection of man, enlightenment, is a goal we set in order to avoid
an infinite regress into nihilism and abject apathy which causes us
to give up the fight. 

Maybe you would feel better about life and death if you converted to
the Buddhist point-of-view - that way, you could become more
comfortable with pacifism and ahimsa and it's opposite, war and
destruction and human suffering. You have a choice - stand up and
fight, or just do good work for the good of all - doing your duty
without attachment to the fruits of your labor.

At one time I thought I was a good Buddhist - I refrained from
killing ants and cockroaches. At one time I even thought about
straining my water and wearing a face mask covering my mouth, so as
not to kill any gnats or tiny amoeba. But, I came to the conclusion
that that would not be the Middle Way taught by Buddha. 

Now, I am content to just let the U.S. Army fight the good fight - I
will use the power of my vote to influence U.S. foreign policy. You
have to choose your battles. It's sometimes complicated.
>

Can humans rise above the morass of misery?
>
>
The Bhagavad Gita is the Hindu polemic aimed at refuting the
Buddhist notion of pacifism:

"Lord Krisna said: you are mourning for those not worthy of sorrow; yet 
speaking like one knowledgeable. The learned neither laments for the dead or 
for the living." - Bhagavad Gita 2.11

http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/index-english.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From: "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 



  
Knowledge is a familiarity, awareness or understanding of someone or something, 
such as facts, information, descriptions, or skills, which is acquired through 
experience or education by perceiving, discovering, or learning. Knowledge can 
refer to a theoretical or practical understanding of a subject. It can be 
implicit or explicit; it can be more or less formal or systematic. —Wikipedia

Wisdom is the ability to think and act using knowledge, experience, 
understanding, common sense, and insight. This implies a possession of 
knowledge or the seeking thereof in order to apply it to the given 
circumstance. This involves an understanding of people, things, events, 
situations, and the willingness as well as the ability to apply perception, 
judgement, and action in keeping with the understanding of what is the optimum 
course of action. -Wikipedia

Chopra is a continuous fountain of deepties.

Deepity:
Something that sounds profound but intellectually hollow. Usually has the 
following characteristics. 1. True but trivial 2. False and logically ill 
informed. 3. May contain a use-mention error (Confusing the word used to 
describe a thing, with the thing itself).

The following are seven actual Chopra quotations intermixed with seven computer 
generated 'Wisdom of Chopra' quotations:

 1. You will be transformed by what you read.
 2. Eternal stillness is the wisdom of boundless happiness.
 3. Time is just quantified eternity.
 4. The world is more than the sum of its suffering.
 5. To expand the universe expand your mind.
 6. Nature explores ephemeral possibilities.
 7. Your heart comprehends the flow of fulfillment.
 8. When you make a choice you change the future.
 9. Quantum physics belongs to formless truth.
10. The future gives rise to potential destiny.
11. Happiness is a continuation of happenings which are not resisted.
12. The more boundless your vision the more real you are.
13. The ego is reborn in unparalleled silence.
14. Transcendence unfolds through unbridled timelessness


Excellent. That's really it. The guy is a half-wit. I consider myself fortunate 
that I missed him entirely by bailing from the TM organization so early. 
Otherwise I might have been tempted -- as a number of people here clearly were 
-- to view his "deepties" as actual wisdom. 

I feel for those who do so, but then what can you expect? They mistook 
Maharishi's "deepties" for wisdom, so they've got incredibly low standards. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[nablusoss1008]

"No inventiveness, or new ideas, or even interesting events, in any of your 
lives - just some worn out wrinkled white dudes, casting their bitterness like 
birdseed, to any pigeons they can find - a trio of sad old fuckers, imo."
 

 This is funny :-) Yet I wonder why you waste your time reading the posts of 
this trio. I've stopped bother reading these nitwits long ago, sal only 
recently. MJ is obviously an older guy about to implode, the Turq being well 
just old, an old fart in repeat mode as old people often are. 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I am not a bigot, regarding all things TM - It is my personal preference. As 
to your assumption that I am a fundamentalist, in that regard, you are 
mistaken. TM is the most effective technique, on the planet, for dissolving 
boundaries. So what? It does not get a person, me, or anyone else, enlightened. 
It is simply a very, very, very useful tool, if one is so inclined. 

 So, as far as I am concerned, do your own thing, MJ, which apparently consists 
of misplacing your hurt, and failure, and deciding that it is the big bad TMO 
and Maharishi, that are the source of 99% of your woes, and anybody else's, who 
may have meditated, using TM. Please, get a life.
 

 You have become boring. Edg says some outrageous stuff about the TMO and 
Maharishi and all of that - And he also posts amazing vids of whizzing around 
on this machine he built. How cool is that? Ann doesn't really see the utility 
or meaningfulness of enlightenment, and instead raises and rides horses, in the 
country. Incredibly great!
 

 But you point to yourself, Turq (aka bawee), and Sal, as the clear eyed ones 
on here, the ones that really "get it". I see the three of you as some of the 
laziest, uncreative, and slothful posters, on this forum. What the fuck do any 
of you really do, except knock down the ideas and hopes of others, and recycle 
the past, under the guise of cheap wit, and "scientific thinking"?? No 
inventiveness, or new ideas, or even interesting events, in any of your lives - 
just some worn out wrinkled white dudes, casting their bitterness like 
birdseed, to any pigeons they can find - a trio of sad old fuckers, imo.
 

 PS My good friend and neighbor, at the trailer park I live in sometimes, is 82 
years old, and he comes across, as hell of a lot younger, than you guys who 
"get it", do. Something to think about.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 you are full of it! You have said repeatedly that you are enlightened and you 
got there by doing TM - you have consistently praised TM and Marshy - go read 
your own posts if you don't believe it.

 

 
 From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture
 
 
   Yes, the world is waking up - even you are far more vocal and active about 
your dislike of TM and Maharishi than even a few months ago. That is what I 
mean. In addition, wars, crime and violence are lessening, according to the 
statistics people keep. So, please keep your weak and cynical thinking to 
yourself. There is enough to do, without you nipping at my heels. 


 Next, please reread my previous post for ANY mention of TM, etc. There isn't 
any. You are so blind and crazed by your pathetic quest, that you have become 
unhinged. I used to think that you were leavening this one pointed idiocy with 
some introspection, but no, you are simply using all things TMO as a dodge for 
something that is bugging the shit out of you. Has your wife stopped having sex 
with you? Do you work for a lousy boss? Whatever it is, fix the issue in your 
personal life, first, before you continue your mindless ranting. What a 
tiresome moron you have become. Too bad.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up" 

 

 Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is actually 
happening.  

 

 We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist 
movements the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was in the 
late 1800's with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact it was Helena 
Blavatsky and her successors Annie Besant and Alice Bailey who laid the 
foundations for the current New Age baloney that people love to believe today.
 

 In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. In the 
past the logistics of terrain and distance would keep some societies and 
cultures intact when others were overwhelmed or imploded, but today who knows 
what will happen. All this stuff about a world enlightenment is a very very 
fine idea and I wish it would happen, but its pure fantasy. 
 

 I am sure all the true believers will believe it up to the very moment that 
storm troopers kick down your door and haul you off. You can offer to get them 
initiated into TM while they bur

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Xeno, I think #11 is true and also useful: 
11. Happiness is a continuation of happenings which are not resisted.


On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:30 PM, "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 


  
Knowledge is a familiarity, awareness or understanding of someone or something, 
such as facts, information, descriptions, or skills, which is acquired through 
experience or education by perceiving, discovering, or learning. Knowledge can 
refer to a theoretical or practical understanding of a subject. It can be 
implicit or explicit; it can be more or less formal or systematic. —Wikipedia

Wisdom is the ability to think and act using knowledge, experience, 
understanding, common sense, and insight. This implies a possession of 
knowledge or the seeking thereof in order to apply it to the given 
circumstance. This involves an understanding of people, things, events, 
situations, and the willingness as well as the ability to apply perception, 
judgement, and action in keeping with the understanding of what is the optimum 
course of action. -Wikipedia

Chopra is a continuous fountain of deepties.

Deepity:
Something that sounds profound but intellectually hollow. Usually has the 
following characteristics. 1. True but trivial 2. False and logically ill 
informed. 3. May contain a use-mention error (Confusing the word used to 
describe a thing, with the thing itself).

The following are seven actual Chopra quotations intermixed with seven computer 
generated 'Wisdom of Chopra' quotations:

 1. You will be transformed by what you read.
 2. Eternal stillness is the wisdom of boundless happiness.
 3. Time is just quantified eternity.
 4. The world is more than the sum of its suffering.
 5. To expand the universe expand your mind.
 6. Nature explores ephemeral possibilities.
 7. Your heart comprehends the flow of fulfillment.
 8. When you make a choice you change the future.
 9. Quantum physics belongs to formless truth.
10. The future gives rise to potential destiny.
11. Happiness is a continuation of happenings which are not resisted.
12. The more boundless your vision the more real you are.
13. The ego is reborn in unparalleled silence.
14. Transcendence unfolds through unbridled timelessness


My favourite real Deepak quote: 'Walk with those who are looking for the truth, 
run from those who think they have found it.' That pretty much eliminates the 
master-disciple relationship and puts you in the company of people who only 
know what is presumed false. The purpose of the master-disciple relationship is 
to get, for the disciple, the tools to find truth for oneself, assuming it 
exists. 'Master' is whatever you discover that brings you those tools. 'Master' 
need not be a person, or even someone who knows what truth is, it could just be 
something that gets you over the next step, even a quotation in a book or on a 
website. If truth does not exist, then the seeking will end in failure. If 
truth does exist, perhaps the seeking will still end in failure. Not a very 
hopeful situtation is it?  The whole universe is there; that might be a good 
place to start looking for truth. If truth exists, where would it be? What 
would it be? How could it be? Is
 truth that which is opposed to falsehood? Or is the world 'truth' begin used 
in a special sense that has nothing to do with truth and falsehood, and is a 
metaphor for something about which you have no idea, but think you do?



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


"Chopra mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge, to a 
world of wisdom."


Good old Deepak, he can always be relied on to provide a meaningless statement 
that sounds profound:

Random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator
 
  Random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator 
Random Deepak Chopra quotes generated at www.wisdomofchopra.com  
View on www.wisdomofchopra.comPreview by Yahoo   
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

OTOH, Byron Katie popped in while she was crouched in terror under a bed in the 
attic of a rehab house. And a cockroach crawled across her leg. Glad she didn't 
teach THAT as a technique!



On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:21 PM, "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 


  
Tolle just kind of popped into this state and then sat around on park benches 
for about two years before he began to function in it. Jiddu Krishnamurti also 
just seemed to slide into this state. So these people can talk about it, but 
seem to have trouble formulating a strategy for getting there, as they did not 
experience any strategy or path themselves. The problem of the path though is, 
if you experienced one, will it work for someone else? 

There seem to be some methods common to spiritual traditions that seem to have 
some success, but the success rate is never astounding, most people just end up 
believing the understanding part of the process. The common methods seem to be 
1. some sort of meditation, and 2. some sort of understanding that the universe 
has differing aspects, which, 'in reality' are basically the same thing, and 3. 
if you moderate the mind's conceptualisation capacity sufficiently and reduce 
the intensity of persistent thoughts by means of these experiential and 
intellectual practises, all this might make sense sometime during the pursuit, 
provided you are sufficiently focused on the supposed goal. The goal is a 
supposition because you cannot know what it is before it manifests; you merely 
have a belief about what it might be, and that belief is false because it was 
not concerning a fact, but a metaphor.

TM, as with other methods, appears to have a high failure rate, and its 
intellectual component is misleading as far as expectations.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Steve, I would say that Tolle is an enlightened person rather than an 
enlightened teacher. Meaning that he became enlightened and then began to teach 
what he thought got him enlightened. Like being in the Now. But imo, being in 
the Now is a result of being enlightened rather than a technique for getting 
enlightened. 



On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:04 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



 
On 7/30/2014 8:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

 
>>Especially to do
so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation
saying that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom
in Presence. And he's right.
>>
>
>You idiot! Tolle believes transcending our ego-based state of
consciousness is the way out of suffering and into peace. Apparently
Eckhart Tolle practiced TM for many years, which was his first foray
into a spiritual discipline. Apparently you don't even know what you
are talking about. Send in the clowns!
>
>'A New Earth'
>Awakening to Your Life's Purpose
>by Eckhart Tolle
>Penguin, 2008
>http://tinyurl.com/3kzv9f 
>
>'The Power of Now'
>A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment
>by Eckhart Tolle
>New World Library, 2004
>http://tinyurl.com/4tq6q5
>>
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
>>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>I
listened to this. You realize that all
he's talking about is trying to
achieve the state of pure awareness,
both by itself and as being present
with other thoughts and activity.  It
may be the first I really listened to
anything he's said, but it's sort of
remarkable, that the main gist of his
teaching, or at least this little bit,
is just, really, a piece of MMY's
overall teaching.
>>
>>
>>I
defy anyone, (if that would be the
appropriate term), to say otherwise.
>>
>>
>>And
no, I am not selling anything!
>>
>>
>>Just
listen, and see if you come to a
different conclusion.
>>
>>
>>Actually,
I think its sort of neat to see
someone come at from a different
angle, although he doesn't offer a
direct means to achieve this.  He
offers indirect means.  Not saying its
better or worse.  But its being
presented as though its a fresh
insight.  Nothing new about it.  
>>
>>
>>
>>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>>
>>
>>How
do we break the habit of excessive
thinking?
>>
>> 
>>
>>   
>>   How
do we break the
habit of excessive
thinking? 
>>Eckhart
explores the
powerful addiction
to thinking,
offering a handful
of ways to put a
stop to thoughts and
choose presence
instead. 
>> 
>>View on www.youtube.com   Preview by Yahoo  
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Knowledge is a familiarity, awareness or understanding of someone or something, 
such as facts, information, descriptions, or skills, which is acquired through 
experience or education by perceiving, discovering, or learning. Knowledge can 
refer to a theoretical or practical understanding of a subject. It can be 
implicit or explicit; it can be more or less formal or systematic. —Wikipedia
 

 Wisdom is the ability to think and act using knowledge, experience, 
understanding, common sense, and insight. This implies a possession of 
knowledge or the seeking thereof in order to apply it to the given 
circumstance. This involves an understanding of people, things, events, 
situations, and the willingness as well as the ability to apply perception, 
judgement, and action in keeping with the understanding of what is the optimum 
course of action. -Wikipedia
 

 Chopra is a continuous fountain of deepties.
 

 Deepity:
 Something that sounds profound but intellectually hollow. Usually has the 
following characteristics. 1. True but trivial 2. False and logically ill 
informed. 3. May contain a use-mention error (Confusing the word used to 
describe a thing, with the thing itself).
 

 The following are seven actual Chopra quotations intermixed with seven 
computer generated 'Wisdom of Chopra' quotations:
 

  1. You will be transformed by what you read.
  2. Eternal stillness is the wisdom of boundless happiness.
  3. Time is just quantified eternity.
  4. The world is more than the sum of its suffering.
  5. To expand the universe expand your mind.
  6. Nature explores ephemeral possibilities.
  7. Your heart comprehends the flow of fulfillment.
  8. When you make a choice you change the future.
  9. Quantum physics belongs to formless truth.
 10. The future gives rise to potential destiny.
 11. Happiness is a continuation of happenings which are not resisted.
 12. The more boundless your vision the more real you are.
 13. The ego is reborn in unparalleled silence.
 14. Transcendence unfolds through unbridled timelessness
 

 

 My favourite real Deepak quote: 'Walk with those who are looking for the 
truth, run from those who think they have found it.' That pretty much 
eliminates the master-disciple relationship and puts you in the company of 
people who only know what is presumed false. The purpose of the master-disciple 
relationship is to get, for the disciple, the tools to find truth for oneself, 
assuming it exists. 'Master' is whatever you discover that brings you those 
tools. 'Master' need not be a person, or even someone who knows what truth is, 
it could just be something that gets you over the next step, even a quotation 
in a book or on a website. If truth does not exist, then the seeking will end 
in failure. If truth does exist, perhaps the seeking will still end in failure. 
Not a very hopeful situtation is it?  The whole universe is there; that might 
be a good place to start looking for truth. If truth exists, where would it be? 
What would it be? How could it be? Is truth that which is opposed to falsehood? 
Or is the world 'truth' begin used in a special sense that has nothing to do 
with truth and falsehood, and is a metaphor for something about which you have 
no idea, but think you do?
 

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Chopra mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge, to 
a world of wisdom."
 

 Good old Deepak, he can always be relied on to provide a meaningless statement 
that sounds profound:
 

 Random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/ 
 
 http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/
 
 Random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/ Random 
Deepak Chopra quotes generated at www.wisdomofchopra.com


 
 View on www.wisdomofchopra.com http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  


 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Tolle just kind of popped into this state and then sat around on park benches 
for about two years before he began to function in it. Jiddu Krishnamurti also 
just seemed to slide into this state. So these people can talk about it, but 
seem to have trouble formulating a strategy for getting there, as they did not 
experience any strategy or path themselves. The problem of the path though is, 
if you experienced one, will it work for someone else?  

 There seem to be some methods common to spiritual traditions that seem to have 
some success, but the success rate is never astounding, most people just end up 
believing the understanding part of the process. The common methods seem to be 
1. some sort of meditation, and 2. some sort of understanding that the universe 
has differing aspects, which, 'in reality' are basically the same thing, and 3. 
if you moderate the mind's conceptualisation capacity sufficiently and reduce 
the intensity of persistent thoughts by means of these experiential and 
intellectual practises, all this might make sense sometime during the pursuit, 
provided you are sufficiently focused on the supposed goal. The goal is a 
supposition because you cannot know what it is before it manifests; you merely 
have a belief about what it might be, and that belief is false because it was 
not concerning a fact, but a metaphor.
 

 TM, as with other methods, appears to have a high failure rate, and its 
intellectual component is misleading as far as expectations.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Steve, I would say that Tolle is an enlightened person rather than an 
enlightened teacher. Meaning that he became enlightened and then began to teach 
what he thought got him enlightened. Like being in the Now. But imo, being in 
the Now is a result of being enlightened rather than a technique for getting 
enlightened. 

 


 On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:04 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 
 

   
 On 7/30/2014 8:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   Especially to do so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation 
saying that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom in Presence. And he's 
right.
 


 >
 You idiot! Tolle believes transcending our ego-based state of consciousness is 
the way out of suffering and into peace. Apparently Eckhart Tolle practiced TM 
for many years, which was his first foray into a spiritual discipline. 
Apparently you don't even know what you are talking about. Send in the clowns!
 
 'A New Earth'
 Awakening to Your Life's Purpose
 by Eckhart Tolle
 Penguin, 2008
 http://tinyurl.com/3kzv9f http://tinyurl.com/3kzv9f
 
 'The Power of Now'
 A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment
 by Eckhart Tolle
 New World Library, 2004
 http://tinyurl.com/4tq6q5 http://tinyurl.com/4tq6q5
 >
 

 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
mailto:steve.sundur@...[FairfieldLife]  
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
 
 
   I listened to this. You realize that all he's talking about is trying to 
achieve the state of pure awareness, both by itself and as being present with 
other thoughts and activity.  It may be the first I really listened to anything 
he's said, but it's sort of remarkable, that the main gist of his teaching, or 
at least this little bit, is just, really, a piece of MMY's overall teaching.
 
 
 I defy anyone, (if that would be the appropriate term), to say otherwise.
 
 
 And no, I am not selling anything!
 
 
 Just listen, and see if you come to a different conclusion.
 
 
 Actually, I think its sort of neat to see someone come at from a different 
angle, although he doesn't offer a direct means to achieve this.  He offers 
indirect means.  Not saying its better or worse.  But its being presented as 
though its a fresh insight.  Nothing new about it.  
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:cardemaister@... wrote :
 
 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4
 
 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? Eckhart explores the powerful 
addiction to thinking, offering a handful of ways to put a stop to thoughts and 
choose presence instead.


 
 View on www.youtube.com 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  
















 

 


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I am not a bigot, regarding all things TM - It is my personal preference. As to 
your assumption that I am a fundamentalist, in that regard, you are mistaken. 
TM is the most effective technique, on the planet, for dissolving boundaries. 
So what? It does not get a person, me, or anyone else, enlightened. It is 
simply a very, very, very useful tool, if one is so inclined. 

 So, as far as I am concerned, do your own thing, MJ, which apparently consists 
of misplacing your hurt, and failure, and deciding that it is the big bad TMO 
and Maharishi, that are the source of 99% of your woes, and anybody else's, who 
may have meditated, using TM. Please, get a life.
 

 You have become boring. Edg says some outrageous stuff about the TMO and 
Maharishi and all of that - And he also posts amazing vids of whizzing around 
on this machine he built. How cool is that? Ann doesn't really see the utility 
or meaningfulness of enlightenment, and instead raises and rides horses, in the 
country. Incredibly great!
 

 But you point to yourself, Turq (aka bawee), and Sal, as the clear eyed ones 
on here, the ones that really "get it". I see the three of you as some of the 
laziest, uncreative, and slothful posters, on this forum. What the fuck do any 
of you really do, except knock down the ideas and hopes of others, and recycle 
the past, under the guise of cheap wit, and "scientific thinking"?? No 
inventiveness, or new ideas, or even interesting events, in any of your lives - 
just some worn out wrinkled white dudes, casting their bitterness like 
birdseed, to any pigeons they can find - a trio of sad old fuckers, imo.
 

 PS My good friend and neighbor, at the trailer park I live in sometimes, is 82 
years old, and he comes across, as hell of a lot younger, than you guys who 
"get it", do. Something to think about.
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 you are full of it! You have said repeatedly that you are enlightened and you 
got there by doing TM - you have consistently praised TM and Marshy - go read 
your own posts if you don't believe it.

 

 From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:55 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture
 
 
   Yes, the world is waking up - even you are far more vocal and active about 
your dislike of TM and Maharishi than even a few months ago. That is what I 
mean. In addition, wars, crime and violence are lessening, according to the 
statistics people keep. So, please keep your weak and cynical thinking to 
yourself. There is enough to do, without you nipping at my heels. 


 Next, please reread my previous post for ANY mention of TM, etc. There isn't 
any. You are so blind and crazed by your pathetic quest, that you have become 
unhinged. I used to think that you were leavening this one pointed idiocy with 
some introspection, but no, you are simply using all things TMO as a dodge for 
something that is bugging the shit out of you. Has your wife stopped having sex 
with you? Do you work for a lousy boss? Whatever it is, fix the issue in your 
personal life, first, before you continue your mindless ranting. What a 
tiresome moron you have become. Too bad.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up" 

 

 Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is actually 
happening.  

 

 We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist 
movements the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was in the 
late 1800's with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact it was Helena 
Blavatsky and her successors Annie Besant and Alice Bailey who laid the 
foundations for the current New Age baloney that people love to believe today.
 

 In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. In the 
past the logistics of terrain and distance would keep some societies and 
cultures intact when others were overwhelmed or imploded, but today who knows 
what will happen. All this stuff about a world enlightenment is a very very 
fine idea and I wish it would happen, but its pure fantasy. 
 

 I am sure all the true believers will believe it up to the very moment that 
storm troopers kick down your door and haul you off. You can offer to get them 
initiated into TM while they burn your house.
 

 The other interesting thing is that the TM true believers all really believe 
the "awakening" will occur when most of the world suddenly falls in love with 
Marshy and run to get David Lynch's "darshan" (I'd rather smell a dead skunk 
myself) and get initiated into TM. 

 

 Meanwhile the New Agers think everyone will be spontaneously floating into 
ascension, meaning their bodies become the perfect 4th dimensional template it 
really is, the ufo crowd think the "Space Brothers" will come and give us all 
kinds of all sorts of marvelous technology that wil

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

*From:* salyavin808 

I come here to chuckle at knuckle-heads like you


>
On 7/30/2014 9:53 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

>
I admire your ongoing sense of humor about this, Salyavin. 
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your POV), I'm finding it 
hard to even tolerate the weak minds and pre-adolescent personalities 
posting here lately, much less be amused by them. Their inability to 
make any sense whatsoever, combined with their inability to understand 
how much they've been brainwashed into actually believing these 
hare-brained Newage (rhymes with "sewage") notions they spout is 
becoming too depressing to put up with. I actually encounter a higher 
level of intelligence in the bars around here. Go figure. Maybe it's 
that this is a university town, and unlike Fairfield, *not* a cult 
university town. :-)


So far I've hung in there, mainly as a lurker, hoping that I'll 
occasionally stumble across something interesting posted by you, or 
Anartaxius, or Rick, or Bhairitu, but hope is dwindling fast.

>
/This is just too rich to pass up/ - lurking reporters and science 
writers, intent on the informant Rick's every word. You just can't make 
this stuff up. Thanks, Barry, good one!

>


I honestly don't know which is worse -- people who are so dim as to 
actually believe the shit that Maharishi and Chopra and Hagelin say 
after all these years, or the ones who realize that it's bullshit but 
go along with it anyway out of fear of no longer being considered 
"spiritual."

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 9:53 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

>

**
I admire your ongoing sense of humor about this, Salyavin. 
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your POV), I'm finding it 
hard to even tolerate the weak minds and pre-adolescent personalities 
posting here lately, much less be amused by them. Their inability to 
make any sense whatsoever, combined with their inability to understand 
how much they've been brainwashed into actually believing these 
hare-brained Newage (rhymes with "sewage") notions they spout is 
becoming too depressing to put up with.

>
So, you ARE getting depressed. Have you considered getting help from a 
cult-exit counselor? It's not our fault that you can't afford to build 
your own vastu dwelling, but do you have to be so JELLOS of Jim just 
because he's enlightened and you're not, or that he owns a nice house 
with his wife. *We are trying to help you* get out of your 
trance-induction state and overcome your chronic narcissism -/your 
pursuit of gratification from vanity, and your egotistic admiration of 
your own physical and mental attributes, that derive from your arrogant 
pride./

>
I actually encounter a higher level of intelligence in the bars around 
here. Go figure. Maybe it's that this is a university town, and unlike 
Fairfield, *not* a cult university town. :-)

>
Get over yourself - you're just another dumb military brat and you suck 
as a spiritual teacher!

>


So far I've hung in there, mainly as a lurker, hoping that I'll 
occasionally stumble across something interesting posted by you, or 
Anartaxius, or Rick, or Bhairitu, but hope is dwindling fast.


I honestly don't know which is worse -- people who are so dim as to 
actually believe the shit that Maharishi and Chopra and Hagelin say 
after all these years, or the ones who realize that it's bullshit but 
go along with it anyway out of fear of no longer being considered 
"spiritual."

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

*From:* salyavin808 

I come here to chuckle at knuckle-heads like you



On 7/30/2014 9:53 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

>


I admire your ongoing sense of humor about this, Salyavin. 
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your POV), I'm finding it 
hard to even tolerate the weak minds and pre-adolescent personalities 
posting here lately, much less be amused by them. Their inability to 
make any sense whatsoever, combined with their inability to understand 
how much they've been brainwashed into actually believing these 
hare-brained Newage (rhymes with "sewage") notions they spout is 
becoming too depressing to put up with. I actually encounter a higher 
level of intelligence in the bars around here. Go figure. Maybe it's 
that this is a university town, and unlike Fairfield, *not* a cult 
university town. :-)


So far I've hung in there, mainly as a lurker, hoping that I'll 
occasionally stumble across something interesting posted by you, or 
Anartaxius, or Rick, or Bhairitu, but hope is dwindling fast.

>
You sound kind of depressed and JELLOS. Speaking for myself, I hope you 
don't give up and leave again like you did over on Google Groups - 
you're the best foil ever on Yahoo! Groups FFL - the gift that just 
keeps on giving. Seriously, somebody has got to step in a take up the 
slack now that Judy is gone - you've lost your main target audience.

Maybe it was all about Judy from the very beginning. Go figure.

Here's hoping you don't do anything rash - get some help if you can't 
find it on FFL. If we don't hear from you again, so long, Pal, see you 
next time around.

>


I honestly don't know which is worse -- people who are so dim as to 
actually believe the shit that Maharishi and Chopra and Hagelin say 
after all these years, or the ones who realize that it's bullshit but 
go along with it anyway out of fear of no longer being considered 
"spiritual."

>
"What I'm talking about is slowly lifting up off the sofa and sitting
in midair for two to three minutes. Or stepping up off the ground in
the desert and then flying around several feet above the ground for a
while."

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Steve, I would say that Tolle is an enlightened person rather than an 
enlightened teacher. Meaning that he became enlightened and then began to teach 
what he thought got him enlightened. Like being in the Now. But imo, being in 
the Now is a result of being enlightened rather than a technique for getting 
enlightened. 



On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:04 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' 
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
On 7/30/2014 8:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

  
>Especially to do so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation saying 
>that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom in Presence. And he's right.
>
>
You idiot! Tolle believes transcending our ego-based state of
consciousness is the way out of suffering and into peace. Apparently
Eckhart Tolle practiced TM for many years, which was his first foray
into a spiritual discipline. Apparently you don't even know what you
are talking about. Send in the clowns!

'A New Earth'
Awakening to Your Life's Purpose
by Eckhart Tolle
Penguin, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/3kzv9f 

'The Power of Now'
A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment
by Eckhart Tolle
New World Library, 2004
http://tinyurl.com/4tq6q5
>


>
>
>
> From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
> 
>
>
>  
>I listened to this. You realize that all he's talking about is trying to 
>achieve the state of pure awareness, both by itself and as being present with 
>other thoughts and activity.  It may be the first I really listened to 
>anything he's said, but it's sort of remarkable, that the main gist of his 
>teaching, or at least this little bit, is just, really, a piece of MMY's 
>overall teaching.
>
>
>I defy anyone, (if that would be the appropriate term), to say otherwise.
>
>
>And no, I am not selling anything!
>
>
>Just listen, and see if you come to a different conclusion.
>
>
>Actually, I think its sort of neat to see someone come at from a different 
>angle, although he doesn't offer a direct means to achieve this.  He offers 
>indirect means.  Not saying its better or worse.  But its being presented as 
>though its a fresh insight.  Nothing new about it.  
> 
>
>
>---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :
>
>
>How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
>
> 
>
>   
>   How do we break the habit of excessive thinking?  
>Eckhart explores the powerful addiction to thinking, offering a handful of 
>ways to put a stop to thoughts and choose presence instead. 
> 
>View on www.youtube.com   Preview by Yahoo  
>
> 
> 
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
>


Is my post meaningless? What is the difference between knowledge
and wisdom? 


>
So, you don't have all the answers.
>

On 7/30/2014 9:31 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
>


I would say that wisdom is making a pretence at being useful by
virtue that it comes from someone claiming "higher" inspiration. 


Received or untested knowledge is unreliable compared to
scientifically derived knowledge because we are just taking
someone's word for it. Deepak's statement may therefore actually
be dangerous rather than merely tedious in leading people to think
that pre-enlightenment* types of thinking are going to advance
human society in any way other than accidentally. It'll be back to
the stone age for us if we listen to Chopra.

*The English enlightenment of the Royal Society and Isaac Newton etc..


 Chopra sounds like a genius in comparison! So, tell us again:
what exactly, is your purpose in subscribing to this list? Go figure.

I come here to chuckle at knuckle-heads like you


>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Culture of Suffering

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Richard, 

 You're a man of wisdom.  Thanks for the insights.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 7/29/2014 3:26 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] wrote:

   As we can see from the news today,  humans are intent on killing each other. 
 Is it because the human mind and physiology are inherently violent?  Or is it 
an indication that humans are just unhappy about life here on Earth?

 >
 Sometimes you have to use a thorn to remove a thorn. 
 
 There's not much you can do individually to bring world peace except meditate 
and be peaceful yourself. Short of taking up arms to fight the enemies of the 
open society, what you do every day won't make such a big difference in world 
events. However, having faith in the perfection of man, enlightenment, is a 
goal we set in order to avoid an infinite regress into nihilism and abject 
apathy which causes us to give up the fight. 
 
 Maybe you would feel better about life and death if you converted to the 
Buddhist point-of-view - that way, you could become more comfortable with 
pacifism and ahimsa and it's opposite, war and destruction and human suffering. 
You have a choice - stand up and fight, or just do good work for the good of 
all - doing your duty without attachment to the fruits of your labor.
 
 At one time I thought I was a good Buddhist - I refrained from killing ants 
and cockroaches. At one time I even thought about straining my water and 
wearing a face mask covering my mouth, so as not to kill any gnats or tiny 
amoeba. But, I came to the conclusion that that would not be the Middle Way 
taught by Buddha. 
 
 Now, I am content to just let the U.S. Army fight the good fight - I will use 
the power of my vote to influence U.S. foreign policy. You have to choose your 
battles. It's sometimes complicated.
 >
 Can humans rise above the morass of misery?




 >
 The Bhagavad Gita is the Hindu polemic aimed at refuting the Buddhist notion 
of pacifism:
 
 "Lord Krisna said: you are mourning for those not worthy of sorrow; yet 
speaking like one knowledgeable. The learned neither laments for the dead or 
for the living." - Bhagavad Gita 2.11
 
 http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/index-english.html 
http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/index-english.html
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

fleet is showing his enlightened state - if that's what comes out of an 
enlightened person's mind, I'll stick to ignorance




 From: salyavin808 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture
 


  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Knowledge vs. wisdom - Sal has learned that he can wipe his ass with paper, or 
his bare hand. He doesn't choose between the two, and often uses his bare hand 
- ick. Fleetwood has learned that he can wipe his ass with paper, or his bare 
hand. He *wisely* chooses to use paper. Every time. Smell the difference, Sal? 
I hope so. :-)

"Experiential truth corresponds to objective joy" 


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :






---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


On 7/30/2014 7:05 AM, salyavin808
wrote:

 
"Chopra mentioned
that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge,
to a world of wisdom."



Good old Deepak,
he can always be relied on to provide a meaningless
statement that sounds profound:
>
>>>You mean, compared to your meaningless post?
>>Is my post meaningless? What is the difference between knowledge and wisdom? 
>>I would say that wisdom is making a pretence at being useful by virtue that 
>>it comes from someone claiming "higher" inspiration. 
>>Received or untested knowledge is unreliable compared to scientifically 
>>derived knowledge because we are just taking someone's word for it. Deepak's 
>>statement may therefore actually be dangerous rather than merely tedious in 
>>leading people to think that pre-enlightenment* types of thinking are going 
>>to advance human society in any way other than accidentally. It'll be back to 
>>the stone age for us if we listen to Chopra.
>>>
>>*The English enlightenment of the Royal Society and Isaac Newton etc..
>>
>>>
>> Chopra sounds like a
genius in comparison! So, tell us again: what exactly, is your
purpose in subscribing to this list? Go figure.
>>>
>>I come here to chuckle at knuckle-heads like you
>>
>>>
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

you are full of it! You have said repeatedly that you are enlightened and you 
got there by doing TM - you have consistently praised TM and Marshy - go read 
your own posts if you don't believe it.




 From: "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture
 


  
Yes, the world is waking up - even you are far more vocal and active about your 
dislike of TM and Maharishi than even a few months ago. That is what I mean. In 
addition, wars, crime and violence are lessening, according to the statistics 
people keep. So, please keep your weak and cynical thinking to yourself. There 
is enough to do, without you nipping at my heels. 


Next, please reread my previous post for ANY mention of TM, etc. There isn't 
any. You are so blind and crazed by your pathetic quest, that you have become 
unhinged. I used to think that you were leavening this one pointed idiocy with 
some introspection, but no, you are simply using all things TMO as a dodge for 
something that is bugging the shit out of you. Has your wife stopped having sex 
with you? Do you work for a lousy boss? Whatever it is, fix the issue in your 
personal life, first, before you continue your mindless ranting. What a 
tiresome moron you have become. Too bad.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up" 


Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is actually 
happening.  


We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist movements 
the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was in the late 1800's 
with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact it was Helena Blavatsky and 
her successors Annie Besant and Alice Bailey who laid the foundations for the 
current New Age baloney that people love to believe today.

In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. In the 
past the logistics of terrain and distance would keep some societies and 
cultures intact when others were overwhelmed
or imploded, but today who knows what will happen. All this stuff about a world 
enlightenment is a very very fine idea and I wish it would happen, but its pure 
fantasy. 

I am sure all the true believers will believe it up to the very moment that 
storm troopers kick down your door and haul you off. You can offer to get them 
initiated into TM while they burn your house.

The other interesting thing is that the TM true believers all really believe 
the "awakening" will occur when most of the world suddenly falls in love with 
Marshy and run to get David Lynch's "darshan" (I'd rather
smell a dead skunk myself) and get initiated into TM. 


Meanwhile the New Agers think everyone will be spontaneously floating into 
ascension, meaning their bodies become the perfect 4th dimensional template it 
really is, the ufo crowd think the "Space Brothers" will come and give us all 
kinds of all sorts of marvelous technology that will allow us to have world 
peace, end hunger, eradicate illness and so on.

Nabby must have the most interesting idea of the Age of E where David Lynch 
becomes a god of some sort, sort of like Jesus underneath Marshy's position as 
God, everyone becomes a TM'er and does TM and of course TMSP will be mandatory 
for all and sundry. 


Everyone will do TM except for people like me, Barry, Curtis and Sal who will 
all be herded into a vastu veda prison and closely watched to make sure we 
don't excape. We'll probably have our tongues cut out so we won't spout any TM 
blasphemy that might corrupt
the noble Purusha men who will be our guards. 


All the existing buildings will be destroyed to make way for an all Marshy 
vastu ved building project that the Movement will get well paid for. All 
celebrations of any kind will be replaced with Hindu celebrations and in fact 
all religions will be banned in favor of Marshy's superstitious brand of 
pseudo-Hinduism.


Meanwhile the Space Brothers will come down and give us all the techno that we 
need and of course Maitreya will appear and institute the New World Order. Now 
this will be interesting because to fulfill Nabby's fantasies, either Maitreya 
will have to teach everyone TM, or all the TM'ers will have to replace Marshy 
as god with Maitreya. What a dilemma!



 From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:05 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture



 
I agree that it is a start - Interesting times - Someone, Chopra I think, 
mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge, to a world 
of wisdom. The world is waking up, however with so many coming out of their 
stupor, it is creating quite a commotion. So many groups and individuals a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 8:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Especially to do so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST 
meditation saying that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom in 
Presence. And he's right.

>
You idiot! Tolle believes transcending our ego-based state of 
consciousness is the way out of suffering and into peace. Apparently 
Eckhart Tolle practiced TM for many years, which was his first foray 
into a spiritual discipline. Apparently you don't even know what you are 
talking about. Send in the clowns!


'A New Earth'
Awakening to Your Life's Purpose
by Eckhart Tolle
Penguin, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/3kzv9f 

'The Power of Now'
A Guide to Spiritual Enlightenment
by Eckhart Tolle
New World Library, 2004
http://tinyurl.com/4tq6q5
>



*From:* "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

I listened to this. You realize that all he's talking about is trying 
to achieve the state of pure awareness, both by itself and as being 
present with other thoughts and activity.  It may be the first I 
really listened to anything he's said, but it's sort of remarkable, 
that the main gist of his teaching, or at least this little bit, is 
just, really, a piece of MMY's overall teaching.


I defy anyone, (if that would be the appropriate term), to say otherwise.

And no, I am not selling anything!

Just listen, and see if you come to a different conclusion.

Actually, I think its sort of neat to see someone come at from a 
different angle, although he doesn't offer a direct means to achieve 
this.  He offers indirect means.  Not saying its better or worse.  But 
its being presented as though its a fresh insight.  Nothing new about it.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 





image 


How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 

Eckhart explores the powerful addiction to thinking, offering a 
handful of ways to put a stop to thoughts and choose presence instead.


View on www.youtube.com 

Preview by Yahoo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 5:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up"

>
Nobody said YOU were "waking up" - apparently you're still in a 
trance-inductions state. But, if you don't wake up you could be 
dreaming. Go figure.


So, how does one know when they've come out of the trance? You could 
still be in one for all we know. From what I've read posted to FFL, /if 
you are in a trance state for too long it becomes chronic and can lead 
to disassociation/, and in extreme cases, /an actual break with 
reality./ One True Believer posting to FFL imagines that he witnessed a 
guy/float up off a couch/ up on a stage hundreds of times. Apparently 
you are highly prone to suggestion yourself, having lived in a pod for 
two years and tried to fly inside a golden dome. That must have been a 
powerful brain-washing technique you experienced!


So, who is to say whether or not you still try to squat down on your 
knees and pray every day? Maybe you don't try to fly in a golden dome 
anymore, but maybe you try it in a rented duplex somewhere. Maybe you 
don't realize that you're supposed to be the informant, and not the 
other way around. The average lurking reporter would have you pegged you 
as an impostor long ago just, for posting rumors not backed up any 
facts. /You've really got some flights of fancy./ LoL!

>
Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is 
actually happening.

>
On 7/30/2014 5:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

>


We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist 
movements the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was 
in the late 1800's with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact 
it was Helena Blavatsky and her successors Annie Besant and Alice 
Bailey who laid the foundations for the current New Age baloney that 
people love to believe today.


In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. 
In the past the logistics of terrain and distance would keep some 
societies and cultures intact when others were overwhelmed or 
imploded, but today who knows what will happen. All this stuff about a 
world enlightenment is a very very fine idea and I wish it would 
happen, but its pure fantasy.


I am sure all the true believers will believe it up to the very moment 
that storm troopers kick down your door and haul you off. You can 
offer to get them initiated into TM while they burn your house.


The other interesting thing is that the TM true believers all really 
believe the "awakening" will occur when most of the world suddenly 
falls in love with Marshy and run to get David Lynch's "darshan" (I'd 
rather smell a dead skunk myself) and get initiated into TM.


Meanwhile the New Agers think everyone will be spontaneously floating 
into ascension, meaning their bodies become the perfect 4th 
dimensional template it really is, the ufo crowd think the "Space 
Brothers" will come and give us all kinds of all sorts of marvelous 
technology that will allow us to have world peace, end hunger, 
eradicate illness and so on.


Nabby must have the most interesting idea of the Age of E where David 
Lynch becomes a god of some sort, sort of like Jesus underneath 
Marshy's position as God, everyone becomes a TM'er and does TM and of 
course TMSP will be mandatory for all and sundry.


Everyone will do TM except for people like me, Barry, Curtis and Sal 
who will all be herded into a vastu veda prison and closely watched to 
make sure we don't excape. We'll probably have our tongues cut out so 
we won't spout any TM blasphemy that might corrupt the noble Purusha 
men who will be our guards.


All the existing buildings will be destroyed to make way for an all 
Marshy vastu ved building project that the Movement will get well paid 
for. All celebrations of any kind will be replaced with Hindu 
celebrations and in fact all religions will be banned in favor of 
Marshy's superstitious brand of pseudo-Hinduism.


Meanwhile the Space Brothers will come down and give us all the techno 
that we need and of course Maitreya will appear and institute the New 
World Order. Now this will be interesting because to fulfill Nabby's 
fantasies, either Maitreya will have to teach everyone TM, or all the 
TM'ers will have to replace Marshy as god with Maitreya. What a dilemma!


*From:* "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:05 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

I agree that it is a start - Interesting times - Someone, Chopra I 
think, mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of 
knowledge, to a world of wisdom. The world is waking up, however with 
so many coming out of their stupor, it is creating quite a commotion. 
So many groups and i

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Knowledge vs. wisdom - Sal has learned that he can wipe his ass with paper, or 
his bare hand. He doesn't choose between the two, and often uses his bare hand 
- ick. Fleetwood has learned that he can wipe his ass with paper, or his bare 
hand. He *wisely* chooses to use paper. Every time. Smell the difference, Sal? 
I hope so. :-)
 

 "Experiential truth corresponds to objective joy"  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 7/30/2014 7:05 AM, salyavin808 wrote:

   "Chopra mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge, 
to a world of wisdom."

 
 
 Good old Deepak, he can always be relied on to provide a meaningless statement 
that sounds profound:

 >
 You mean, compared to your meaningless post? Is my post meaningless? What is 
the difference between knowledge and wisdom? I would say that wisdom is making 
a pretence at being useful by virtue that it comes from someone claiming 
"higher" inspiration.  Received or untested knowledge is unreliable compared to 
scientifically derived knowledge because we are just taking someone's word for 
it. Deepak's statement may therefore actually be dangerous rather than merely 
tedious in leading people to think that pre-enlightenment* types of thinking 
are going to advance human society in any way other than accidentally. It'll be 
back to the stone age for us if we listen to Chopra.
 *The English enlightenment of the Royal Society and Isaac Newton etc.. 
  Chopra sounds like a genius in comparison! So, tell us again: what exactly, 
is your purpose in subscribing to this list? Go figure.
 I come here to chuckle at knuckle-heads like you 





  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Knowledge vs. wisdom - Sal has learned that he can wipe his ass with paper, or 
his bare hand. He doesn't choose between the two, and often uses his bare hand 
- ick. Fleetwood has learned that he can wipe his ass with paper, or his bare 
hand. He *wisely* chooses to use paper. Every time. Smell the difference, Sal? 
I hope so. :-)
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 7/30/2014 7:05 AM, salyavin808 wrote:

   "Chopra mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge, 
to a world of wisdom."

 
 
 Good old Deepak, he can always be relied on to provide a meaningless statement 
that sounds profound:

 >
 You mean, compared to your meaningless post? Is my post meaningless? What is 
the difference between knowledge and wisdom? I would say that wisdom is making 
a pretence at being useful by virtue that it comes from someone claiming 
"higher" inspiration.  Received or untested knowledge is unreliable compared to 
scientifically derived knowledge because we are just taking someone's word for 
it. Deepak's statement may therefore actually be dangerous rather than merely 
tedious in leading people to think that pre-enlightenment* types of thinking 
are going to advance human society in any way other than accidentally. It'll be 
back to the stone age for us if we listen to Chopra.
 *The English enlightenment of the Royal Society and Isaac Newton etc.. 
  Chopra sounds like a genius in comparison! So, tell us again: what exactly, 
is your purpose in subscribing to this list? Go figure.
 I come here to chuckle at knuckle-heads like you 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Culture of Suffering

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Well said.  


On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:45 AM, "'Richard J. Williams' 
pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
  


  
On 7/29/2014 3:26 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
 
  
>As we can see from the news today,  humans are intent on killing each other.  
>Is it because the human mind and physiology are inherently violent?  Or is it 
>an indication that humans are just unhappy about life here on Earth?  
>
Sometimes you have to use a thorn to remove a thorn. 

There's not much you can do individually to bring world peace except
meditate and be peaceful yourself. Short of taking up arms to fight
the enemies of the open society, what you do every day won't make
such a big difference in world events. However, having faith in the
perfection of man, enlightenment, is a goal we set in order to avoid
an infinite regress into nihilism and abject apathy which causes us
to give up the fight. 

Maybe you would feel better about life and death if you converted to
the Buddhist point-of-view - that way, you could become more
comfortable with pacifism and ahimsa and it's opposite, war and
destruction and human suffering. You have a choice - stand up and
fight, or just do good work for the good of all - doing your duty
without attachment to the fruits of your labor.

At one time I thought I was a good Buddhist - I refrained from
killing ants and cockroaches. At one time I even thought about
straining my water and wearing a face mask covering my mouth, so as
not to kill any gnats or tiny amoeba. But, I came to the conclusion
that that would not be the Middle Way taught by Buddha. 

Now, I am content to just let the U.S. Army fight the good fight - I
will use the power of my vote to influence U.S. foreign policy. You
have to choose your battles. It's sometimes complicated.
>

Can humans rise above the morass of misery?
>
>
The Bhagavad Gita is the Hindu polemic aimed at refuting the
Buddhist notion of pacifism:

"Lord Krisna said: you are mourning for those not worthy of sorrow; yet 
speaking like one knowledgeable. The learned neither laments for the dead or 
for the living." - Bhagavad Gita 2.11

http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/index-english.html
 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Michael is an interesting case. The only danger for his project would be if he 
were in a situation like Saul of Tarsus. My advice to Michael is to avoid the 
road to Damascus. 

 A world waking up is still pretty sleepy.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, the world is waking up - even you are far more vocal and active about 
your dislike of TM and Maharishi than even a few months ago. That is what I 
mean. In addition, wars, crime and violence are lessening, according to the 
statistics people keep. So, please keep your weak and cynical thinking to 
yourself. There is enough to do, without you nipping at my heels. 

 Next, please reread my previous post for ANY mention of TM, etc. There isn't 
any. You are so blind and crazed by your pathetic quest, that you have become 
unhinged. I used to think that you were leavening this one pointed idiocy with 
some introspection, but no, you are simply using all things TMO as a dodge for 
something that is bugging the shit out of you. Has your wife stopped having sex 
with you? Do you work for a lousy boss? Whatever it is, fix the issue in your 
personal life, first, before you continue your mindless ranting. What a 
tiresome moron you have become. Too bad.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up" 

 

 Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is actually 
happening.  

 

 We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist 
movements the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was in the 
late 1800's with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact it was Helena 
Blavatsky and her successors Annie Besant and Alice Bailey who laid the 
foundations for the current New Age baloney that people love to believe today.
 

 In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. In the 
past the logistics of terrain and distance would keep some societies and 
cultures intact when others were overwhelmed or imploded, but today who knows 
what will happen. All this stuff about a world enlightenment is a very very 
fine idea and I wish it would happen, but its pure fantasy. 
 

 I am sure all the true believers will believe it up to the very moment that 
storm troopers kick down your door and haul you off. You can offer to get them 
initiated into TM while they burn your house.
 

 The other interesting thing is that the TM true believers all really believe 
the "awakening" will occur when most of the world suddenly falls in love with 
Marshy and run to get David Lynch's "darshan" (I'd rather smell a dead skunk 
myself) and get initiated into TM. 

 

 Meanwhile the New Agers think everyone will be spontaneously floating into 
ascension, meaning their bodies become the perfect 4th dimensional template it 
really is, the ufo crowd think the "Space Brothers" will come and give us all 
kinds of all sorts of marvelous technology that will allow us to have world 
peace, end hunger, eradicate illness and so on.
 

 Nabby must have the most interesting idea of the Age of E where David Lynch 
becomes a god of some sort, sort of like Jesus underneath Marshy's position as 
God, everyone becomes a TM'er and does TM and of course TMSP will be mandatory 
for all and sundry. 

 

 Everyone will do TM except for people like me, Barry, Curtis and Sal who will 
all be herded into a vastu veda prison and closely watched to make sure we 
don't excape. We'll probably have our tongues cut out so we won't spout any TM 
blasphemy that might corrupt the noble Purusha men who will be our guards. 

 

 All the existing buildings will be destroyed to make way for an all Marshy 
vastu ved building project that the Movement will get well paid for. All 
celebrations of any kind will be replaced with Hindu celebrations and in fact 
all religions will be banned in favor of Marshy's superstitious brand of 
pseudo-Hinduism.

 

 Meanwhile the Space Brothers will come down and give us all the techno that we 
need and of course Maitreya will appear and institute the New World Order. Now 
this will be interesting because to fulfill Nabby's fantasies, either Maitreya 
will have to teach everyone TM, or all the TM'ers will have to replace Marshy 
as god with Maitreya. What a dilemma!

 
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Raiders are Moving to San Antonio?

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It's a bluff. The *sombrero* dome isn't NFL quality. It needs to be mucho mas 
grande! 


On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 7:22 PM, "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
  


  
Or is this just a bluff to get a new stadium in Oakland, CA?

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/oakland-raiders-owner-talks-to-san-antonio-about-move-232336327.html#
  
 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

What Steve is saying is that in terms of teaching spiritual concepts, Maharishi 
could whip Tolle, with one hand tied behind his back. No shit - Tolle has 
nothing to say of any importance, except wishful thinking and empty fantasies.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Sycophantic thinking. Pure Awareness, if it exists, was around long before 
Marshy became a blip on the world scene, and there were and are plenty of 
others who came before him, while he was here and after him who taught the same 
thing. To relate everything to him is pitiful and sycophantic. 

 Especially to do so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation saying 
that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom in Presence. And he's right.

 

 From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
 
 
   I listened to this. You realize that all he's talking about is trying to 
achieve the state of pure awareness, both by itself and as being present with 
other thoughts and activity.  It may be the first I really listened to anything 
he's said, but it's sort of remarkable, that the main gist of his teaching, or 
at least this little bit, is just, really, a piece of MMY's overall teaching.
 

 I defy anyone, (if that would be the appropriate term), to say otherwise.
 

 And no, I am not selling anything!
 

 Just listen, and see if you come to a different conclusion.
 

 Actually, I think its sort of neat to see someone come at from a different 
angle, although he doesn't offer a direct means to achieve this.  He offers 
indirect means.  Not saying its better or worse.  But its being presented as 
though its a fresh insight.  Nothing new about it.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4
 
 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 Eckhart explores the powerful 
addiction to thinking, offering a handful of ways to put a stop to thoughts and 
choose presence instead.


 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  



 





 


 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

keep a tight ass, dude.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "Chopra mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge, to 
a world of wisdom."
 

 Good old Deepak, he can always be relied on to provide a meaningless statement 
that sounds profound:
 

 Random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/ 
 
 http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/
 
 Random Deepak Chopra Quote Generator http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/ Random 
Deepak Chopra quotes generated at www.wisdomofchopra.com


 
 View on www.wisdomofchopra.com http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/
 Preview by Yahoo 
 

  


 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 7/30/2014 8:38 AM, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... mailto:mjackson74@... 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

   If I still held to old notions I would believe that the archangels would 
come change everything


 >
 You once believed this? Apparently you are very prone to suggestibility. 
Almost everyone where you live believes in angels and notions like this, so I'm 
not surprised that you would tend to want to blend in because of local peer 
pressure. But, what were your friends saying when you went fell under the 
trance-induction state and took a bus up to Iowa to live in a pod and learn how 
to fly inside a golden dome? While most normal people probably interpret these 
angelic stores as simply allegorical, you seem to have actually started to 
become a True Believer - to the point that you thought you could actually fly 
like an angel? Go figure.
 > 
 - and they will, just like Marshy changed everything - which means we will all 
be lucky if the world doesn't implode in a decade, cuz all the gettin' saved by 
a higher power or a lying guru ain't gonna happen.
 
 

 In my small world view I have this idea that you have been successful in your 
life if you can come to the end of it and avoided becoming: disenchanted, 
disheartened jaded and pessimistic. How easy it is to fall into a state of 
hopelessness and scorn - to view the world angrily, disappointed. The world is 
full of these kinds of people. It is the rare person who can suffer the 
difficulties this world brings and who still embodies a positivity and bright 
outlook that is the antithesis of cynicism. 
 

 

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Yes, the world is waking up - even you are far more vocal and active about your 
dislike of TM and Maharishi than even a few months ago. That is what I mean. In 
addition, wars, crime and violence are lessening, according to the statistics 
people keep. So, please keep your weak and cynical thinking to yourself. There 
is enough to do, without you nipping at my heels. 

 Next, please reread my previous post for ANY mention of TM, etc. There isn't 
any. You are so blind and crazed by your pathetic quest, that you have become 
unhinged. I used to think that you were leavening this one pointed idiocy with 
some introspection, but no, you are simply using all things TMO as a dodge for 
something that is bugging the shit out of you. Has your wife stopped having sex 
with you? Do you work for a lousy boss? Whatever it is, fix the issue in your 
personal life, first, before you continue your mindless ranting. What a 
tiresome moron you have become. Too bad.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up" 

 

 Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is actually 
happening.  

 

 We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist 
movements the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was in the 
late 1800's with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact it was Helena 
Blavatsky and her successors Annie Besant and Alice Bailey who laid the 
foundations for the current New Age baloney that people love to believe today.
 

 In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. In the 
past the logistics of terrain and distance would keep some societies and 
cultures intact when others were overwhelmed or imploded, but today who knows 
what will happen. All this stuff about a world enlightenment is a very very 
fine idea and I wish it would happen, but its pure fantasy. 
 

 I am sure all the true believers will believe it up to the very moment that 
storm troopers kick down your door and haul you off. You can offer to get them 
initiated into TM while they burn your house.
 

 The other interesting thing is that the TM true believers all really believe 
the "awakening" will occur when most of the world suddenly falls in love with 
Marshy and run to get David Lynch's "darshan" (I'd rather smell a dead skunk 
myself) and get initiated into TM. 

 

 Meanwhile the New Agers think everyone will be spontaneously floating into 
ascension, meaning their bodies become the perfect 4th dimensional template it 
really is, the ufo crowd think the "Space Brothers" will come and give us all 
kinds of all sorts of marvelous technology that will allow us to have world 
peace, end hunger, eradicate illness and so on.
 

 Nabby must have the most interesting idea of the Age of E where David Lynch 
becomes a god of some sort, sort of like Jesus underneath Marshy's position as 
God, everyone becomes a TM'er and does TM and of course TMSP will be mandatory 
for all and sundry. 

 

 Everyone will do TM except for people like me, Barry, Curtis and Sal who will 
all be herded into a vastu veda prison and closely watched to make sure we 
don't excape. We'll probably have our tongues cut out so we won't spout any TM 
blasphemy that might corrupt the noble Purusha men who will be our guards. 

 

 All the existing buildings will be destroyed to make way for an all Marshy 
vastu ved building project that the Movement will get well paid for. All 
celebrations of any kind will be replaced with Hindu celebrations and in fact 
all religions will be banned in favor of Marshy's superstitious brand of 
pseudo-Hinduism.

 

 Meanwhile the Space Brothers will come down and give us all the techno that we 
need and of course Maitreya will appear and institute the New World Order. Now 
this will be interesting because to fulfill Nabby's fantasies, either Maitreya 
will have to teach everyone TM, or all the TM'ers will have to replace Marshy 
as god with Maitreya. What a dilemma!

 From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:05 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture
 
 
   I agree that it is a start - Interesting times - Someone, Chopra I think, 
mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge, to a world 
of wisdom. The world is waking up, however with so many coming out of their 
stupor, it is creating quite a commotion. So many groups and individuals are 
now expressing their needs, all clamoring for a voice, in our new, 
seamlessly-connected world. Everybody feels important, and empowered.
 

 The industrialized nations have set a model for the world, whereby instant 
gratification, and individual choice, for food, shelter, clothing, 
communication, transportation, and entertainment, is the norm, and now, 
everyone wants it. We all want the consumer dream, and the money to participate 
in it

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From: salyavin808 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


On 7/30/2014 7:05 AM, salyavin808
wrote:

 
>>"Chopra mentioned
that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge,
to a world of wisdom."
>>
>>
>>
>>Good old Deepak,
he can always be relied on to provide a meaningless
statement that sounds profound:
>You mean, compared to your meaningless post?

>Is my post meaningless? What is the difference between knowledge and wisdom? I 
>would say that wisdom is making a pretence at being useful by virtue that it 
>comes from someone claiming "higher" inspiration. 
Received or untested knowledge is unreliable compared to scientifically derived 
knowledge because we are just taking someone's word for it. Deepak's statement 
may therefore actually be dangerous rather than merely tedious in leading 
people to think that pre-enlightenment* types of thinking are going to advance 
human society in any way other than accidentally. It'll be back to the stone 
age for us if we listen to Chopra.
>
*The English enlightenment of the Royal Society and Isaac Newton etc..

>
 Chopra sounds like a
genius in comparison! So, tell us again: what exactly, is your
purpose in subscribing to this list? Go figure.
>

>I come here to chuckle at knuckle-heads like you

>
I admire your ongoing sense of humor about this, Salyavin. Unfortunately (or 
fortunately, depending on your POV), I'm finding it hard to even tolerate the 
weak minds and pre-adolescent personalities posting here lately, much less be 
amused by them. Their inability to make any sense whatsoever, combined with 
their inability to understand how much they've been brainwashed into actually 
believing these hare-brained Newage (rhymes with "sewage") notions they spout 
is becoming too depressing to put up with. I actually encounter a higher level 
of intelligence in the bars around here. Go figure. Maybe it's that this is a 
university town, and unlike Fairfield, *not* a cult university town. :-) 

So far I've hung in there, mainly as a lurker, hoping that I'll occasionally 
stumble across something interesting posted by you, or Anartaxius, or Rick, or 
Bhairitu, but hope is dwindling fast. 

I honestly don't know which is worse -- people who are so dim as to actually 
believe the shit that Maharishi and Chopra and Hagelin say after all these 
years, or the ones who realize that it's bullshit but go along with it anyway 
out of fear of no longer being considered "spiritual."  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Culture of Suffering

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/29/2014 3:26 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


As we can see from the news today,  humans are intent on killing each 
other.  Is it because the human mind and physiology are inherently 
violent?  Or is it an indication that humans are just unhappy about 
life here on Earth?



>
Sometimes you have to use a thorn to remove a thorn.

There's not much you can do individually to bring world peace except 
meditate and be peaceful yourself. Short of taking up arms to fight the 
enemies of the open society, what you do every day won't make such a big 
difference in world events. However, having faith in the perfection of 
man, enlightenment, is a goal we set in order to avoid an infinite 
regress into nihilism and abject apathy which causes us to give up the 
fight.


Maybe you would feel better about life and death if you converted to the 
Buddhist point-of-view - that way, you could become more comfortable 
with pacifism and ahimsa and it's opposite, war and destruction and 
human suffering. You have a choice - stand up and fight, or just do good 
work for the good of all - doing your duty without attachment to the 
fruits of your labor.


At one time I thought I was a good Buddhist - I refrained from killing 
ants and cockroaches. At one time I even thought about straining my 
water and wearing a face mask covering my mouth, so as not to kill any 
gnats or tiny amoeba. But, I came to the conclusion that that would not 
be the Middle Way taught by Buddha.


Now, I am content to just let the U.S. Army fight the good fight - I 
will use the power of my vote to influence U.S. foreign policy. You have 
to choose your battles. It's sometimes complicated.

>


Can humans rise above the morass of misery?


>
The Bhagavad Gita is the Hindu polemic aimed at refuting the Buddhist 
notion of pacifism:


/"Lord Krisna said: you are mourning for those not worthy of sorrow; yet 
speaking like one knowledgeable. The learned neither laments for the 
dead or for the living."/ - Bhagavad Gita 2.11


http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/index-english.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[salyavin808]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 On 7/30/2014 7:05 AM, salyavin808 wrote:

   "Chopra mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge, 
to a world of wisdom."

 
 
 Good old Deepak, he can always be relied on to provide a meaningless statement 
that sounds profound:

 >
 You mean, compared to your meaningless post? Is my post meaningless? What is 
the difference between knowledge and wisdom? I would say that wisdom is making 
a pretence at being useful by virtue that it comes from someone claiming 
"higher" inspiration.  Received or untested knowledge is unreliable compared to 
scientifically derived knowledge because we are just taking someone's word for 
it. Deepak's statement may therefore actually be dangerous rather than merely 
tedious in leading people to think that pre-enlightenment* types of thinking 
are going to advance human society in any way other than accidentally. It'll be 
back to the stone age for us if we listen to Chopra.
 *The English enlightenment of the Royal Society and Isaac Newton etc.. 
  Chopra sounds like a genius in comparison! So, tell us again: what exactly, 
is your purpose in subscribing to this list? Go figure.
 I come here to chuckle at knuckle-heads like you 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

Fleetwood, Share Like. :-)
>
On 7/30/2014 9:15 AM, Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

Fleetwood, like (-:


On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:05 AM, "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



I agree that it is a start - Interesting times - Someone, Chopra I 
think, mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of 
knowledge, to a world of wisdom. The world is waking up, however with 
so many coming out of their stupor, it is creating quite a commotion. 
So many groups and individuals are now expressing their needs, all 
clamoring for a voice, in our new, seamlessly-connected world. 
Everybody feels important, and empowered.


The industrialized nations have set a model for the world, whereby 
instant gratification, and individual choice, for food, shelter, 
clothing, communication, transportation, and entertainment, is the 
norm, and now, everyone wants it. We all want the consumer dream, and 
the money to participate in it. Also, weaponry is turning into the 
great equalizer, as even small organizations, and individuals, now 
have the growing capability to wage war, and extend their influence, 
through violence.


We are so beset with choices and options, too many to evaluate, and it 
is only through rising consciousness, that we will survive. I have 
heard that the antidote to a poisonous plant often grows nearby the 
poisonous one. Like that, all the spiritual interest of the last 50 
years, seems to be ripening at the right time, for the world. Quite a 
front row seat for this transition, and may we all emerge better for it!



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

There is infinite freedom in Vastu, house with 4 wings (square), 3 
wings, L-shaped etcetc. We have just seen the start in modern times, 
and I tend to agree it looks rather boring. It's but a beginning, and 
well begun is half done. It's the beginning of a great adventure that 
will change the face of this earth.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Yes, I am sure it "works", but..it looks like something designed by a 
committee, with all the juice bled out of it, though you have to begin 
somewhere, I suppose.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :



It's a revival of age-old wisdom. They have been busy proving that it 
works rather than experiment.  And the reports from people actually 
living in these first houses, many of which have been built in 
America, a fact you can be proud of,  indicates that it works very 
well. There is plenty of room for individual taste in Vastu, it will 
come later.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

A cool experiment, though I find too much symmetry, in the design of 
the house shown, for my taste. Though I do like the central silent 
area of the building, all vastu homes, that I have seen, are this sort 
of block-like shape - no sun room, or rec room, off to the side. 
Possibly a better idea for town and city, vs. rural living. It does 
have a spacious feel, but the mirror symmetry of many of the rooms and 
spaces, gets a little boring. I find it a solid, supportive, and 
pleasant space, just not as interesting as it could be, with some 
improvisation.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture 





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Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture 

To learn more about building in tune with the Laws of Nature, please 
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design in nature a...


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 8:38 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
If I still held to old notions I would believe that the archangels 
would come change everything

>
You once believed this? Apparently you are very prone to suggestibility. 
Almost everyone where you live believes in angels and notions like this, 
so I'm not surprised that you would tend to want to blend in because of 
local peer pressure. But, what were your friends saying when you went 
fell under the trance-induction state and took a bus up to Iowa to live 
in a pod and learn how to fly inside a golden dome? While most normal 
people probably interpret these angelic stores as simply allegorical, 
you seem to have actually started to become a True Believer - to the 
point that you thought you could actually fly like an angel? Go figure.

>
- and they will, just like Marshy changed everything - which means we 
will all be lucky if the world doesn't implode in a decade, cuz all 
the gettin' saved by a higher power or a lying guru ain't gonna happen.



*From:* "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:31 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu 
Architecture


I sort of get the feeling that you are describing your own beliefs 
more than anything else.  I think most have a more balanced notion of 
how things will play out, likely greater spirituality coexisting with 
greater societal controls.


You claim otherwise, but I think you still hold on to your previously 
held new age notions of how things will play out.


You are the one with the history of channeling.  And last I heard, you 
still buy into it, in terms of "was it real, or was it memorex" type 
of thing.  (-:



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up"

Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is 
actually happening.


We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist 
movements the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was 
in the late 1800's with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact 
it was Helena Blavatsky and her successors Annie Besant and Alice 
Bailey who laid the foundations for the current New Age baloney that 
people love to believe today.


In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. 
In the past the logistics of terrain and distance would keep some 
societies and cultures intact when others were overwhelmed or 
imploded, but today who knows what will happen. All this stuff about a 
world enlightenment is a very very fine idea and I wish it would 
happen, but its pure fantasy.


I am sure all the true believers will believe it up to the very moment 
that storm troopers kick down your door and haul you off. You can 
offer to get them initiated into TM while they burn your house.


The other interesting thing is that the TM true believers all really 
believe the "awakening" will occur when most of the world suddenly 
falls in love with Marshy and run to get David Lynch's "darshan" (I'd 
rather smell a dead skunk myself) and get initiated into TM.


Meanwhile the New Agers think everyone will be spontaneously floating 
into ascension, meaning their bodies become the perfect 4th 
dimensional template it really is, the ufo crowd think the "Space 
Brothers" will come and give us all kinds of all sorts of marvelous 
technology that will allow us to have world peace, end hunger, 
eradicate illness and so on.


Nabby must have the most interesting idea of the Age of E where David 
Lynch becomes a god of some sort, sort of like Jesus underneath 
Marshy's position as God, everyone becomes a TM'er and does TM and of 
course TMSP will be mandatory for all and sundry.


Everyone will do TM except for people like me, Barry, Curtis and Sal 
who will all be herded into a vastu veda prison and closely watched to 
make sure we don't excape. We'll probably have our tongues cut out so 
we won't spout any TM blasphemy that might corrupt the noble Purusha 
men who will be our guards.


All the existing buildings will be destroyed to make way for an all 
Marshy vastu ved building project that the Movement will get well paid 
for. All celebrations of any kind will be replaced with Hindu 
celebrations and in fact all religions will be banned in favor of 
Marshy's superstitious brand of pseudo-Hinduism.


Meanwhile the Space Brothers will come down and give us all the techno 
that we need and of course Maitreya will appear and institute the New 
World Order. Now this will be interesting because to fulfill Nabby's 
fantasies, either Maitreya will have to teach everyone TM, or all the 
TM'ers will have to replace Marshy as god with Maitreya. What a dilemma!


*From:* "fleetwood_macncheese@... 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Fleetwood, like (-:



On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 12:05 AM, "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
 


  
I agree that it is a start - Interesting times - Someone, Chopra I think, 
mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge, to a world 
of wisdom. The world is waking up, however with so many coming out of their 
stupor, it is creating quite a commotion. So many groups and individuals are 
now expressing their needs, all clamoring for a voice, in our new, 
seamlessly-connected world. Everybody feels important, and empowered.

The industrialized nations have set a model for the world, whereby instant 
gratification, and individual choice, for food, shelter, clothing, 
communication, transportation, and entertainment, is the norm, and now, 
everyone wants it. We all want the consumer dream, and the money to participate 
in it. Also, weaponry is turning into the great equalizer, as even small 
organizations, and individuals, now have the growing capability to wage war, 
and extend their influence, through violence. 

We are so beset with choices and options, too many to evaluate, and it is only 
through rising consciousness, that we will survive. I have heard that the 
antidote to a poisonous plant often grows nearby the poisonous one. Like that, 
all the spiritual interest of the last 50 years, seems to be ripening at the 
right time, for the world. Quite a front row seat for this transition, and may 
we all emerge better for it!



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


There is infinite freedom in Vastu, house with 4 wings (square), 3 wings, 
L-shaped etcetc. We have just seen the start in modern times, and I tend to 
agree it looks rather boring. It's but a beginning, and well begun is half 
done. It's the beginning of a great adventure that will change the face of this 
earth.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Yes, I am sure it "works", but..it looks like something designed by a 
committee, with all the juice bled out of it, though you have to begin 
somewhere, I suppose.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :





It's a revival of age-old wisdom. They have been busy proving that it works 
rather than experiment.  And the reports from people actually living in these 
first houses, many of which have been built in America, a fact you can be proud 
of,  indicates that it works very well. There is plenty of room for individual 
taste in Vastu, it will come later.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


A cool experiment, though I find too much symmetry, in the design of the house 
shown, for my taste. Though I do like the central silent area of the building, 
all vastu homes, that I have seen, are this sort of block-like shape - no sun 
room, or rec room, off to the side. Possibly a better idea for town and city, 
vs. rural living. It does have a spacious feel, but the mirror symmetry of many 
of the rooms and spaces, gets a little boring. I find it a solid, supportive, 
and pleasant space, just not as interesting as it could be, with some 
improvisation. 



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture
 
  Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture 
To learn more about building in tune with the Laws of Nature, please visit 
http://www.maharishivastu.org Proportion is a key to successful design in 
nature a...  
View on www.youtube.com   Preview by Yahoo   
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Beta Marriages

[Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

John, my Mom found her ideal husband in her 6th marriage. Which house would 
that be?



On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 8:31 PM, "jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 


  
Share,

Geraldo Rivera has been married four times, the fourth being the most stable.  
So, it's more likely that his 10 house has a strong benefic in it, using the 
Parasara technique of jyotish.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Fortunately my age automatically protects me from such men (-:


On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 3:36 PM, "jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:



 
Geraldo Rivera has stirred the pot once again with his idea about what a woman 
brings to a marriage--which is her youth.  What do you think?

Geraldo Rivera Causes Controversy: 'What a Woman Brings to a Marriage More Than 
Anything Else ... Is Her Youth'

 
  Geraldo Rivera Causes Controversy: 'What a Wom... 
On Monday, Geraldo Rivera, no stranger to controversy, stirred things up again 
while appearing on the Fox News show "Outnumbered." In a segment on what...  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 7:05 AM, salyavin808 wrote:


"Chopra mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of 
knowledge, to a world of wisdom."



Good old Deepak, he can always be relied on to provide a meaningless 
statement that sounds profound:

>
You mean, compared to your meaningless post? Chopra sounds like a genius 
in comparison! So, tell us again: what exactly, is your purpose in 
subscribing to this list? Go figure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 5:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Meanwhile the New Agers think everyone will be spontaneously floating 
into ascension,

>
For the record, only one single informant has made claims to having 
witnessed a spontaneous floating up off of a couch and only one 
informant has made claims to having lived in a pod for two years and 
attempted to fly inside a golden dome. If you guys are fibbing about 
this, why would anyone believe anything else you write? Go figure.


"Just to be clear, this wasn't in a TM context. The person levitating
or flying through the air was a guy named Frederick Lenz, who also
called himself Rama. He taught a hodge-podge of things from different
traditions, but the majority of them were Buddhist. He didn't teach
how to do this stuff directly; he just did it. As far as I know, none
of his students ever developed the knack.

What I'm talking about is slowly lifting up off the sofa and sitting
in midair for two to three minutes. Or stepping up off the ground in
the desert and then flying around several feet above the ground for a
while."

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/143231
>

meaning their bodies become the perfect 4th dimensional template it 
really is, the ufo crowd think the "Space Brothers" will come and give 
us all kinds of all sorts of marvelous technology that will allow us 
to have world peace, end hunger, eradicate illness and so on.


Nabby must have the most interesting idea of the Age of E where David 
Lynch becomes a god of some sort, sort of like Jesus underneath 
Marshy's position as God, everyone becomes a TM'er and does TM and of 
course TMSP will be mandatory for all and sundry.


Everyone will do TM except for people like me, Barry, Curtis and Sal 
who will all be herded into a vastu veda prison and closely watched to 
make sure we don't excape. We'll probably have our tongues cut out so 
we won't spout any TM blasphemy that might corrupt the noble Purusha 
men who will be our guards.


All the existing buildings will be destroyed to make way for an all 
Marshy vastu ved building project that the Movement will get well paid 
for. All celebrations of any kind will be replaced with Hindu 
celebrations and in fact all religions will be banned in favor of 
Marshy's superstitious brand of pseudo-Hinduism.


Meanwhile the Space Brothers will come down and give us all the techno 
that we need and of course Maitreya will appear and institute the New 
World Order. Now this will be interesting because to fulfill Nabby's 
fantasies, either Maitreya will have to teach everyone TM, or all the 
TM'ers will have to replace Marshy as god with Maitreya. What a dilemma!


*From:* "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:05 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

I agree that it is a start - Interesting times - Someone, Chopra I 
think, mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of 
knowledge, to a world of wisdom. The world is waking up, however with 
so many coming out of their stupor, it is creating quite a commotion. 
So many groups and individuals are now expressing their needs, all 
clamoring for a voice, in our new, seamlessly-connected world. 
Everybody feels important, and empowered.


The industrialized nations have set a model for the world, whereby 
instant gratification, and individual choice, for food, shelter, 
clothing, communication, transportation, and entertainment, is the 
norm, and now, everyone wants it. We all want the consumer dream, and 
the money to participate in it. Also, weaponry is turning into the 
great equalizer, as even small organizations, and individuals, now 
have the growing capability to wage war, and extend their influence, 
through violence.


We are so beset with choices and options, too many to evaluate, and it 
is only through rising consciousness, that we will survive. I have 
heard that the antidote to a poisonous plant often grows nearby the 
poisonous one. Like that, all the spiritual interest of the last 50 
years, seems to be ripening at the right time, for the world. Quite a 
front row seat for this transition, and may we all emerge better for it!





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

There is infinite freedom in Vastu, house with 4 wings (square), 3 
wings, L-shaped etcetc. We have just seen the start in modern times, 
and I tend to agree it looks rather boring. It's but a beginning, and 
well begun is half done. It's the beginning of a great adventure that 
will change the face of this earth.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Yes, I am sure it "works", but..it looks like something designed by a 
committee, with all the juice bled out of it, though you have to begin 
somewhere, I suppose.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

If I still held to old notions I would believe that the archangels would come 
change everything - and they will, just like Marshy changed everything - which 
means we will all be lucky if the world doesn't implode in a decade, cuz all 
the gettin' saved by a higher power or a lying guru ain't gonna happen.




 From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture
 


  
I sort of get the feeling that you are describing your own beliefs more than 
anything else.  I think most have a more balanced notion of how things will 
play out, likely greater spirituality coexisting with greater societal controls.

You claim otherwise, but I think you still hold on to your previously held new 
age notions of how things will play out.

You are the one with the history of channeling.  And last I heard, you still 
buy into it, in terms of "was it real, or was it memorex" type of thing.  (-:



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up" 


Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is actually 
happening.  


We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist movements 
the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was in the late 1800's 
with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact it was Helena Blavatsky and 
her successors Annie Besant and Alice Bailey who laid the foundations for the 
current New Age baloney that people love to believe today.

In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. In the 
past the logistics of terrain and distance would keep some societies and 
cultures intact when others were overwhelmed
or imploded, but today who knows what will happen. All this stuff about a world 
enlightenment is a very very fine idea and I wish it would happen, but its pure 
fantasy. 

I am sure all the true believers will believe it up to the very moment that 
storm troopers kick down your door and haul you off. You can offer to get them 
initiated into TM while they burn your house.

The other interesting thing is that the TM true believers all really believe 
the "awakening" will occur when most of the world suddenly falls in love with 
Marshy and run to get David Lynch's "darshan" (I'd rather
smell a dead skunk myself) and get initiated into TM. 


Meanwhile the New Agers think everyone will be spontaneously floating into 
ascension, meaning their bodies become the perfect 4th dimensional template it 
really is, the ufo crowd think the "Space Brothers" will come and give us all 
kinds of all sorts of marvelous technology that will allow us to have world 
peace, end hunger, eradicate illness and so on.

Nabby must have the most interesting idea of the Age of E where David Lynch 
becomes a god of some sort, sort of like Jesus underneath Marshy's position as 
God, everyone becomes a TM'er and does TM and of course TMSP will be mandatory 
for all and sundry. 


Everyone will do TM except for people like me, Barry, Curtis and Sal who will 
all be herded into a vastu veda prison and closely watched to make sure we 
don't excape. We'll probably have our tongues cut out so we won't spout any TM 
blasphemy that might corrupt
the noble Purusha men who will be our guards. 


All the existing buildings will be destroyed to make way for an all Marshy 
vastu ved building project that the Movement will get well paid for. All 
celebrations of any kind will be replaced with Hindu celebrations and in fact 
all religions will be banned in favor of Marshy's superstitious brand of 
pseudo-Hinduism.


Meanwhile the Space Brothers will come down and give us all the techno that we 
need and of course Maitreya will appear and institute the New World Order. Now 
this will be interesting because to fulfill Nabby's fantasies, either Maitreya 
will have to teach everyone TM, or all the TM'ers will have to replace Marshy 
as god with Maitreya. What a dilemma!



 From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:05 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture



 
I agree that it is a start - Interesting times - Someone, Chopra I think, 
mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge, to a world 
of wisdom. The world is waking up, however with so many coming out of their 
stupor, it is creating quite a commotion. So many groups and individuals are 
now expressing their needs, all clamoring for a voice, in our new, 
seamlessly-connected world. Everybody feels important, and empowered.

The industrialized nations have set a model for the world, whereby instant 
gratification, and individual choice, for food, shelter, clothing, 
communication, transportation, and entertainment, is the norm,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Sycophantic thinking. Pure Awareness, if it exists, was around long before 
Marshy became a blip on the world scene, and there were and are plenty of 
others who came before him, while he was here and after him who taught the same 
thing. To relate everything to him is pitiful and sycophantic. 

Especially to do so with Eckhart who cautions people AGAINST meditation saying 
that it is often a hindrance to finding freedom in Presence. And he's right.




 From: "steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:22 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking
 


  
I listened to this. You realize that all he's talking about is trying to 
achieve the state of pure awareness, both by itself and as being present with 
other thoughts and activity.  It may be the first I really listened to anything 
he's said, but it's sort of remarkable, that the main gist of his teaching, or 
at least this little bit, is just, really, a piece of MMY's overall teaching.

I defy anyone, (if that would be the appropriate term), to say otherwise.

And no, I am not selling anything!

Just listen, and see if you come to a different conclusion.

Actually, I think its sort of neat to see someone come at from a different 
angle, although he doesn't offer a direct means to achieve this.  He offers 
indirect means.  Not saying its better or worse.  But its being presented as 
though its a fresh insight.  Nothing new about it.  



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


How do we break the habit of excessive thinking?
 
  How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

['Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

On 7/30/2014 5:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

>
> I am sure all the true believers will believe it up to the very moment
> that storm troopers kick down your door and haul you off. You can
> offer to get them initiated into TM while they burn your house.
>
You REALLY got to work early this morning!

But, you sound very depressed and scared. It looks like you're getting 
really agitated reading about building a house to live in. Now you seem 
to be in a fantasy that storm troopers are coming for the TMers and 
kicking in their east facing doors and burning their house because - the 
gestapo doesn't like how your house looks and which direction it is 
facing? You are not even making any sense today. Are you on something? 
Go figure.

>
On 7/30/2014 5:36 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife] wrote:

>

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up"

Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is 
actually happening.


We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist 
movements the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was 
in the late 1800's with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact 
it was Helena Blavatsky and her successors Annie Besant and Alice 
Bailey who laid the foundations for the current New Age baloney that 
people love to believe today.


In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. 
In the past the logistics of terrain and distance would keep some 
societies and cultures intact when others were overwhelmed or 
imploded, but today who knows what will happen. All this stuff about a 
world enlightenment is a very very fine idea and I wish it would 
happen, but its pure fantasy.


I am sure all the true believers will believe it up to the very moment 
that storm troopers kick down your door and haul you off. You can 
offer to get them initiated into TM while they burn your house.


The other interesting thing is that the TM true believers all really 
believe the "awakening" will occur when most of the world suddenly 
falls in love with Marshy and run to get David Lynch's "darshan" (I'd 
rather smell a dead skunk myself) and get initiated into TM.


Meanwhile the New Agers think everyone will be spontaneously floating 
into ascension, meaning their bodies become the perfect 4th 
dimensional template it really is, the ufo crowd think the "Space 
Brothers" will come and give us all kinds of all sorts of marvelous 
technology that will allow us to have world peace, end hunger, 
eradicate illness and so on.


Nabby must have the most interesting idea of the Age of E where David 
Lynch becomes a god of some sort, sort of like Jesus underneath 
Marshy's position as God, everyone becomes a TM'er and does TM and of 
course TMSP will be mandatory for all and sundry.


Everyone will do TM except for people like me, Barry, Curtis and Sal 
who will all be herded into a vastu veda prison and closely watched to 
make sure we don't excape. We'll probably have our tongues cut out so 
we won't spout any TM blasphemy that might corrupt the noble Purusha 
men who will be our guards.


All the existing buildings will be destroyed to make way for an all 
Marshy vastu ved building project that the Movement will get well paid 
for. All celebrations of any kind will be replaced with Hindu 
celebrations and in fact all religions will be banned in favor of 
Marshy's superstitious brand of pseudo-Hinduism.


Meanwhile the Space Brothers will come down and give us all the techno 
that we need and of course Maitreya will appear and institute the New 
World Order. Now this will be interesting because to fulfill Nabby's 
fantasies, either Maitreya will have to teach everyone TM, or all the 
TM'ers will have to replace Marshy as god with Maitreya. What a dilemma!


*From:* "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:05 AM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

I agree that it is a start - Interesting times - Someone, Chopra I 
think, mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of 
knowledge, to a world of wisdom. The world is waking up, however with 
so many coming out of their stupor, it is creating quite a commotion. 
So many groups and individuals are now expressing their needs, all 
clamoring for a voice, in our new, seamlessly-connected world. 
Everybody feels important, and empowered.


The industrialized nations have set a model for the world, whereby 
instant gratification, and individual choice, for food, shelter, 
clothing, communication, transportation, and entertainment, is the 
norm, and now, everyone wants it. We all want the consumer dream, and 
the money to participate in it. Also, weaponry is turning into the 
great equalizer, as even small organizations, and individuals, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[salyavin808]

"Chopra mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge, to a 
world of wisdom."
 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I sort of get the feeling that you are describing your own beliefs more than 
anything else.  I think most have a more balanced notion of how things will 
play out, likely greater spirituality coexisting with greater societal 
controls. 

 You claim otherwise, but I think you still hold on to your previously held new 
age notions of how things will play out.
 

 You are the one with the history of channeling.  And last I heard, you still 
buy into it, in terms of "was it real, or was it memorex" type of thing.  (-:
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up" 

 

 Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is actually 
happening.  

 

 We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist 
movements the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was in the 
late 1800's with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact it was Helena 
Blavatsky and her successors Annie Besant and Alice Bailey who laid the 
foundations for the current New Age baloney that people love to believe today.
 

 In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. In the 
past the logistics of terrain and distance would keep some societies and 
cultures intact when others were overwhelmed or imploded, but today who knows 
what will happen. All this stuff about a world enlightenment is a very very 
fine idea and I wish it would happen, but its pure fantasy. 
 

 I am sure all the true believers will believe it up to the very moment that 
storm troopers kick down your door and haul you off. You can offer to get them 
initiated into TM while they burn your house.
 

 The other interesting thing is that the TM true believers all really believe 
the "awakening" will occur when most of the world suddenly falls in love with 
Marshy and run to get David Lynch's "darshan" (I'd rather smell a dead skunk 
myself) and get initiated into TM. 

 

 Meanwhile the New Agers think everyone will be spontaneously floating into 
ascension, meaning their bodies become the perfect 4th dimensional template it 
really is, the ufo crowd think the "Space Brothers" will come and give us all 
kinds of all sorts of marvelous technology that will allow us to have world 
peace, end hunger, eradicate illness and so on.
 

 Nabby must have the most interesting idea of the Age of E where David Lynch 
becomes a god of some sort, sort of like Jesus underneath Marshy's position as 
God, everyone becomes a TM'er and does TM and of course TMSP will be mandatory 
for all and sundry. 

 

 Everyone will do TM except for people like me, Barry, Curtis and Sal who will 
all be herded into a vastu veda prison and closely watched to make sure we 
don't excape. We'll probably have our tongues cut out so we won't spout any TM 
blasphemy that might corrupt the noble Purusha men who will be our guards. 

 

 All the existing buildings will be destroyed to make way for an all Marshy 
vastu ved building project that the Movement will get well paid for. All 
celebrations of any kind will be replaced with Hindu celebrations and in fact 
all religions will be banned in favor of Marshy's superstitious brand of 
pseudo-Hinduism.

 

 Meanwhile the Space Brothers will come down and give us all the techno that we 
need and of course Maitreya will appear and institute the New World Order. Now 
this will be interesting because to fulfill Nabby's fantasies, either Maitreya 
will have to teach everyone TM, or all the TM'ers will have to replace Marshy 
as god with Maitreya. What a dilemma!

 From: "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" 

 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:05 AM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture
 
 
   I agree that it is a start - Interesting times - Someone, Chopra I think, 
mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge, to a world 
of wisdom. The world is waking up, however with so many coming out of their 
stupor, it is creating quite a commotion. So many groups and individuals are 
now expressing their needs, all clamoring for a voice, in our new, 
seamlessly-connected world. Everybody feels important, and empowered.
 

 The industrialized nations have set a model for the world, whereby instant 
gratification, and individual choice, for food, shelter, clothing, 
communication, transportation, and entertainment, is the norm, and now, 
everyone wants it. We all want the consumer dream, and the money to participate 
in it. Also, weaponry is turning into the great equalizer, as even small 
organizations, and individuals, now have the growing capability to wage war, 
and extend their influence, through violence.  

 We are so beset with choices and options, too many to evaluate, and it is only 
through rising consciousness, that we will survive. I have heard that the 
antidote to a poisonous plant often grows nearby the poisonous one. Like that, 
all the spir

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tolle: excessive thinking

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I listened to this. You realize that all he's talking about is trying to 
achieve the state of pure awareness, both by itself and as being present with 
other thoughts and activity.  It may be the first I really listened to anything 
he's said, but it's sort of remarkable, that the main gist of his teaching, or 
at least this little bit, is just, really, a piece of MMY's overall teaching. 

 I defy anyone, (if that would be the appropriate term), to say otherwise.
 

 And no, I am not selling anything!
 

 Just listen, and see if you come to a different conclusion.
 

 Actually, I think its sort of neat to see someone come at from a different 
angle, although he doesn't offer a direct means to achieve this.  He offers 
indirect means.  Not saying its better or worse.  But its being presented as 
though its a fresh insight.  Nothing new about it.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4
 
 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 Eckhart explores the powerful 
addiction to thinking, offering a handful of ways to put a stop to thoughts and 
choose presence instead.


 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture

[Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! "The world is waking up" 


Nice idea, nice fantasy and zero evidence that such an awakening is actually 
happening.  


We are currently experiencing another of the innumerable spiritualist movements 
the humans manifest from time to time. The last big one was in the late 1800's 
with the rise of the Theosophical Society - in fact it was Helena Blavatsky and 
her successors Annie Besant and Alice Bailey who laid the foundations for the 
current New Age baloney that people love to believe today.

In fact we as a species are heading into another downturn seemingly. In the 
past the logistics of terrain and distance would keep some societies and 
cultures intact when others were overwhelmed or imploded, but today who knows 
what will happen. All this stuff about a world enlightenment is a very very 
fine idea and I wish it would happen, but its pure fantasy. 

I am sure all the true believers will believe it up to the very moment that 
storm troopers kick down your door and haul you off. You can offer to get them 
initiated into TM while they burn your house.

The other interesting thing is that the TM true believers all really believe 
the "awakening" will occur when most of the world suddenly falls in love with 
Marshy and run to get David Lynch's "darshan" (I'd rather smell a dead skunk 
myself) and get initiated into TM. 


Meanwhile the New Agers think everyone will be spontaneously floating into 
ascension, meaning their bodies become the perfect 4th dimensional template it 
really is, the ufo crowd think the "Space Brothers" will come and give us all 
kinds of all sorts of marvelous technology that will allow us to have world 
peace, end hunger, eradicate illness and so on.

Nabby must have the most interesting idea of the Age of E where David Lynch 
becomes a god of some sort, sort of like Jesus underneath Marshy's position as 
God, everyone becomes a TM'er and does TM and of course TMSP will be mandatory 
for all and sundry. 


Everyone will do TM except for people like me, Barry, Curtis and Sal who will 
all be herded into a vastu veda prison and closely watched to make sure we 
don't excape. We'll probably have our tongues cut out so we won't spout any TM 
blasphemy that might corrupt the noble Purusha men who will be our guards. 


All the existing buildings will be destroyed to make way for an all Marshy 
vastu ved building project that the Movement will get well paid for. All 
celebrations of any kind will be replaced with Hindu celebrations and in fact 
all religions will be banned in favor of Marshy's superstitious brand of 
pseudo-Hinduism.


Meanwhile the Space Brothers will come down and give us all the techno that we 
need and of course Maitreya will appear and institute the New World Order. Now 
this will be interesting because to fulfill Nabby's fantasies, either Maitreya 
will have to teach everyone TM, or all the TM'ers will have to replace Marshy 
as god with Maitreya. What a dilemma!



 From: "fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 

To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 1:05 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Proportions in Maharishi Vastu Architecture
 


  
I agree that it is a start - Interesting times - Someone, Chopra I think, 
mentioned that we are in the transition from a world of knowledge, to a world 
of wisdom. The world is waking up, however with so many coming out of their 
stupor, it is creating quite a commotion. So many groups and individuals are 
now expressing their needs, all clamoring for a voice, in our new, 
seamlessly-connected world. Everybody feels important, and empowered.

The industrialized nations have set a model for the world, whereby instant 
gratification, and individual choice, for food, shelter, clothing, 
communication, transportation, and entertainment, is the norm, and now, 
everyone wants it. We all want the consumer dream, and the money to participate 
in it. Also, weaponry is turning into the great equalizer, as even small 
organizations, and individuals, now have the growing capability to wage war, 
and extend their influence, through violence. 

We are so beset with choices and options, too many to evaluate, and it is only 
through rising consciousness, that we will survive. I have heard that the 
antidote to a poisonous plant often grows nearby the poisonous one. Like that, 
all the spiritual interest of the last 50 years, seems to be ripening at the 
right time, for the world. Quite a front row seat for this transition, and may 
we all emerge better for it!





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


There is infinite freedom in Vastu, house with 4 wings (square), 3 wings, 
L-shaped etcetc. We have just seen the start in modern times, and I tend to 
agree it looks rather boring. It's but a beginning, and well begun is half 
done. It's the beginning of a great adventure that will change the face of this 
earth.



---In FairfieldLife@yah

[FairfieldLife] um-men veh ah-men?

[cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Listen to Psalm 72 near the end of that page:

The Letter Nun 
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 Especially listen how he sez 'amen and amen' (something like um-men veh [and] 
ah-men)!?


 

[FairfieldLife] Tolle: excessive thinking

[cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 
 
 How do we break the habit of excessive thinking? 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 Eckhart explores the powerful 
addiction to thinking, offering a handful of ways to put a stop to thoughts and 
choose presence instead.
 
 
 
 View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTFDfR47dl4 
 Preview by Yahoo