Re: [FairfieldLife] Humor and Self-Deception
From: emily.ma...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: seerdope@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ...In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not (Yogi Berra) In theory, I love science and its methods, despite severe limits. Particularly neuroscience, broadly defined. However, in practice, I am quite leery of psychological studies using interviews with canned questions, particularly if Yes/No are the alternatives. Even 10 point scales can be silly responses to complex questions. More than once it felt good when I heard on the news that someone had been killed” “I could never enjoy being cruel.” Just as a question, why can't someone who has No Problem answering these questions with a simple Yes or No interpret the inability to do so as self-deception. EM: Someone could - and by doing that they could be deceiving themselves, and also selling themselves and the rest of humanity short in some key way, perhaps? Not to harp on this, but I think this is an important point. And I think you are (possibly intentionally) missing that point. If you -- being completely honest -- can answer Yes/True to the first question, then *that is the answer*. If you -- again, being completely honest -- can answer No/False to the second question, then *that is the answer*. The problem (IMO) lies with people who hedge their bets and say, Well...this is a bad question, because although yes, more than one time I *have* felt good when I heard that someone died, I don't feel that way all the time. I'm really a good person. Or they would prefer to say, This second question is bad, too, because although I cannot say that I have *never* enjoyed being cruel, I don't enjoy being cruel all the time. I'm really a good person. All of this is self-deception. *The* answers to the questions ARE (respectively) Yes and No. ANY hedging and excuses and exceptions a person feels they need to post after that are IMO exercises in self-deception, an attempt to convince themselves that they're good people anyway. Your answer above, Emily, sounds to me like an attempt to portray any person who feels no need to equivocate and lie -- to themselves and others -- and can answer these questions with a simple Yes and No as a Bad Person. Whereas the person who can't answer them without equivocating and making excuses for answering Yes and No can still claim to be a Good Person. It seems to me that the very *definition* of the latter behavior is self-deception. If you have taken pleasure in news of someone else's death -- EVER -- *that's who you are*. If you have enjoyed being cruel -- EVER -- *that's who you are*. How *often* you do these things is not the question; it's whether you can honestly admit to doing them when you find yourself doing them. Those who indulge in self-deception *can't* admit this. Think back a few months to Robin Carlsen. For weeks he called Vaj a liar for claiming that he (Robin) had struck one or more of his (Robin's) students. Finally, back against the wall, Robin actually *admitted* to having struck his students. THEN, almost immediately, he went right back to No, Vaj really was lying because he said I did it 'at a seminar' and I never did. THEN, someone here posted that they remembered him doing it, and the only place that could have happened was at a seminar. And still, Robin continued to call Vaj a liar and claim that he had never done what he *admitted* he had done. THAT is pretty much the ultimate exercise in self-deception as far as I'm concerned. Did he strike his students? The answer is Yes. The issue of How often or Where isn't the point. Attempts to try to *make* it the point are self-deception, and in Robin's case an attempt to deceive others. The problem with self-deception is that it becomes a pattern. This all took place (the original events) twenty or more years ago, and Robin *still* can't bring himself to tell the honest truth about it. Just my opinion...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Greeks had a word for it
Haven't you read the Bible s3raphita? It specifically states there are dire consequences for those who pisseth against the wall - thus the need for open toilets that Our Lord not feel obligated to visit wholesale destruction upon the populace of the UK. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Greeks had a word for it ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : These open-view urinals for men have just started appearing in London. I can't see why they don't just instruct the gentlemen to go and piss against a nearby wall. OMG, that's disgusting! Where are these things? And where do you wash your hands? And why do they feel the need to mark them a men's logo, are there women's versions on the way? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : San Francisco wanted to put in toiletsdowntown on the streets. A French company makes self cleaningunits which were ideal. They could only accommodate one person ata time and so drug dealers couldn't use them which was a concern. Then the Disabilities People yelled and they had to get ones thatwere large enough for them. Which meant that drug dealers coulduse them. The French company doesn't make them like that and Ithink the ones they got aren't self cleaning. I think it would have been a better idea to pass a law requiringestablishments to allow the disabled to use their facilities andleave the single user systems on the street. Of course that wouldhave caused yet another kerfuffle. On 12/14/2014 03:38 PM, s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Foranyone thinking of visiting the UK be aware we have someof the most disgusting public toilets this side of aThird World hell-hole during a dysentery outbreak. I'm serious. Make sure you buy aRadar Key (£2:45 on Amazon) - which gets you access totoilets for the disabled. They're the only onesmaintained to a decent standard apart from expensivefacilities at tourist traps. Otherwise you'll have tostock up on disposable toilet seat covers, pocket tissuesachets, and you'll have to learn the art of sitting onthe loo with one leg outstretched to keep the cubicledoor shut as the lock is invariably broken. The best place for numerous, freeand clean public toilets is Tokyo. That could be abetter holiday destination. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seerdope@...wrote : Assessing civilization by it its number of toiletsis a wonderful metric and embodies all that makes theUnited States (and Netherlands) the greatest countriesin the world. Toilets are a grand testament to ourtechnological savvy in designing billion dollarsystems to rid ourselves of icky stuff. I mean itsjust organic crap like nitrogen, phosphorusand potassium and all that boring like chemistrystuff Good riddance. Far more sophisticated touse civilized chemical fertilizers. We get to to useall those magnificent big, high tech mining machinesto transform the earth from mere dirt to hugecraters. Ah the glories western civilization. Werock. Andlook at countries like india -- they produce only10% as much CO2 per capital of the US (15% as muchas the Dutch). What losers. Would youbelieve that I actually read Small is Beautifulback the mid 70's. I have to laugh -- backin college I was so deluded. What a hoot. A totallylooney-bin hippie manifesto. Schumaker probablyhated toilets. and would have tooted graywater andgrowing fresh vegetables. As if !. I am glad men of theworld like us see through such garbage. Came acrossa review theother day. I think the copious amounts of acid hismother must of taken never really left the writersbrain. Small is Beautiful was a radical challenge to the20th century's intoxication with what Schumacherdescribed as gigantism. For several decades, massproduction methods were producing more cheap goodsthan ever before; the mass media and mass cultureopened up new opportunities to a wider audience thanever. It was creating bigger markets and biggerpolitical entities. .. hebelieved such scale led to a dehumanisation ofpeople and the economic systems that ordered theirlives. One of the recurrentthemes through the book is how modern organisationsstripped the satisfaction out of work, making theworker no more than an anonymous cog in a hugemachine. Craft skill was no longer important, norwas the quality of human relationship: human beingswere expected to act like adjuncts to the machinesof the production line. The economic system wassimilarly dehumanising, making decisions on thebasis of profitability rather than human need... What Schumacher wantedwas a people-centred economics because that would,in his view, enable environmental and humansustainability. It was a radical challengewhich, like many of the ideas of the late 60s andearly 70s (feminism is another example), weregradually adopted and
[FairfieldLife] What Kind of Day Has It Been?
One of screenwriter/director/showrunner Aaron Sorkin's conceits is that he has given the last episode of the last four series he's created this title. So since he has posed the question again in the last episode of The Newsroom, I think I'll spend a few minutes answering it. The day starts at a funeral, then segues to a flashback in which the dead person (Charlie Skinner) is telling one of the still-alive persons (Will McAvoy) about asking his grandson (a white suburban kid from New Rochelle) why he is trying to learn Tom T. Hall's How I Got To Memphis. The kid answers, Memphis is a stand-in for wherever you are right now...it really means 'How I got here.' This is all followed by bouncing back and forth between present-day funeral talk and first meetings in the past. We see Will and MacKenzie being set up in the past by Charlie, see him clinching the deal by sending her a copy of Don Quixote, and we see them in the present day. We see Don and Sloan's first meeting, and how they are today. We see some of Maggie and Jim's first moments, and how they are today. We see the horrific new owner of the network being chewed out/saved by its old owner, played by Jane Fonda. And somehow seeing *her* in the role, we are reminded of Barbarella, and we are reminded of how *she* got here and how magnificent she still is today at age 77, and that makes us smile. Then Will gets to sit in with Charlie's grandkid's garage band and play How I Got To Memphis with him, and we smile some more. Memphis is a stand-in for where you are right now. The last episode of a show is a stand-in for everything that led up to it, and thus the stuff that either made it memorable and a good use of your time, or the opposite. The Newsroom was a good use of my time. It was a modern-day Don Quixote, and as in that story, the fact that its characters and its writers were tilting at windmills doesn't diminish their heroism in doing so. All in all, a fairly nice way to start the day...
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Humor and Self-Deception
Hm.I am hitting the pause button today.a small skill I'm learning when I am in danger of reactingjust me.will get back to you tomorrow. :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: emily.mae50@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: seerdope@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ... In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not (Yogi Berra) In theory, I love science and its methods, despite severe limits. Particularly neuroscience, broadly defined. However, in practice, I am quite leery of psychological studies using interviews with canned questions, particularly if Yes/No are the alternatives. Even 10 point scales can be silly responses to complex questions. More than once it felt good when I heard on the news that someone had been killed” “I could never enjoy being cruel.” Just as a question, why can't someone who has No Problem answering these questions with a simple Yes or No interpret the inability to do so as self-deception. EM: Someone could - and by doing that they could be deceiving themselves, and also selling themselves and the rest of humanity short in some key way, perhaps? Not to harp on this, but I think this is an important point. And I think you are (possibly intentionally) missing that point. If you -- being completely honest -- can answer Yes/True to the first question, then *that is the answer*. If you -- again, being completely honest -- can answer No/False to the second question, then *that is the answer*. The problem (IMO) lies with people who hedge their bets and say, Well...this is a bad question, because although yes, more than one time I *have* felt good when I heard that someone died, I don't feel that way all the time. I'm really a good person. Or they would prefer to say, This second question is bad, too, because although I cannot say that I have *never* enjoyed being cruel, I don't enjoy being cruel all the time. I'm really a good person. All of this is self-deception. *The* answers to the questions ARE (respectively) Yes and No. ANY hedging and excuses and exceptions a person feels they need to post after that are IMO exercises in self-deception, an attempt to convince themselves that they're good people anyway. Your answer above, Emily, sounds to me like an attempt to portray any person who feels no need to equivocate and lie -- to themselves and others -- and can answer these questions with a simple Yes and No as a Bad Person. Whereas the person who can't answer them without equivocating and making excuses for answering Yes and No can still claim to be a Good Person. It seems to me that the very *definition* of the latter behavior is self-deception. If you have taken pleasure in news of someone else's death -- EVER -- *that's who you are*. If you have enjoyed being cruel -- EVER -- *that's who you are*. How *often* you do these things is not the question; it's whether you can honestly admit to doing them when you find yourself doing them. Those who indulge in self-deception *can't* admit this. Think back a few months to Robin Carlsen. For weeks he called Vaj a liar for claiming that he (Robin) had struck one or more of his (Robin's) students. Finally, back against the wall, Robin actually *admitted* to having struck his students. THEN, almost immediately, he went right back to No, Vaj really was lying because he said I did it 'at a seminar' and I never did. THEN, someone here posted that they remembered him doing it, and the only place that could have happened was at a seminar. And still, Robin continued to call Vaj a liar and claim that he had never done what he *admitted* he had done. THAT is pretty much the ultimate exercise in self-deception as far as I'm concerned. Did he strike his students? The answer is Yes. The issue of How often or Where isn't the point. Attempts to try to *make* it the point are self-deception, and in Robin's case an attempt to deceive others. The problem with self-deception is that it becomes a pattern. This all took place (the original events) twenty or more years ago, and Robin *still* can't bring himself to tell the honest truth about it. Just my opinion...
[FairfieldLife] Youse guys gunna ever listen or not?
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[FairfieldLife] What do FFLers who don't get it get?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Youse guys gunna ever listen or not?
Take it up with Thesaurus.com. I don't really care.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] What do FFLers who don't get it get?
This book for Christmas? :-)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
And episode 3? ;-) On 12/13/2014 11:47 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */The nekkid kung-fu battle in episode 2 was definitely worth watching. :-)/* *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 6:10 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives STARZ of course is another cable/satellite cartel premium channel not accessible to cable cutters. You may find it interesting and outrageous what other channel is no longer accessible unless you have a cable/satellite subscription: C-SPAN. Yup, someone on the radio stream was talking about the debate over the budget showing on C-SPAN so I went to cspan.org and clicked on it and it wanted the login to my cable or satellite provider. Seems I missed that this has been the case since summer. One more stroke against democracy by the fascist pigs! America truly is the NAZI Germany of the 21st century and run by the Fourth Reich. On 12/13/2014 01:11 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */Have you checked out Outlander? Gorgeous production, and a pretty interesting story to boot. The lead actress -- Catriona Balfe -- is a former Vogue and Elle cover girl who had been studying acting before she was scouted into the modeling world, and returned to her original dream with this series. She's as good an actress as she is lovely. /* */Outlander | New Series | STARZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkizwJUiVjA/* */ /* image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkizwJUiVjA Outlander | New Series | STARZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkizwJUiVjA View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkizwJUiVjA Preview by Yahoo *From:* ultrarishi no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 6:47 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives We gave the first episode of Marco Polo a shot tonight and enjoyed the hell out of it. I think this will tide me over until Da Vinci's Demons returns, since it is in a similar vain. Beautiful production. Is this the Weinstein Company's first venture into television?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
Watching it now. Haven't gotten to any nekkid kung fu yet. Someone was just
beheaded, probably for confusing awareness with consciousness. :-)
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
And episode 3? ;-)
On 12/13/2014 11:47 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
The nekkid kung-fu battle in episode 2 was definitely worth watching. :-)
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
STARZ of course is another cable/satellite cartel premium channel not
accessible to cable cutters. You may find it interesting and outrageous what
other channel is no longer accessible unless you have a cable/satellite
subscription: C-SPAN. Yup, someone on the radio stream was talking about the
debate over the budget showing on C-SPAN so I went to cspan.org and clicked on
it and it wanted the login to my cable or satellite provider. Seems I missed
that this has been the case since summer. One more stroke against democracy by
the fascist pigs!
America truly is the NAZI Germany of the 21st century and run by the Fourth
Reich.
On 12/13/2014 01:11 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Have you checked out Outlander? Gorgeous production, and a pretty
interesting story to boot. The lead actress -- Catriona Balfe -- is a former
Vogue and Elle cover girl who had been studying acting before she was scouted
into the modeling world, and returned to her original dream with this series.
She's as good an actress as she is lovely.
Outlander | New Series | STARZ
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From: ultrarishi no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 6:47 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
We gave the first episode of Marco Polo a shot tonight and enjoyed the
hell out of it. I think this will tide me over until Da Vinci's Demons
returns, since it is in a similar vain. Beautiful production.
Is this the Weinstein Company's first venture into television?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
Come on, Edg, you gotta admit this is pretty funny. Dontcha?
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
Watching it now. Haven't gotten to any nekkid kung fu yet. Someone was
just beheaded, probably for confusing awareness with consciousness. :-)
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
And episode 3? ;-)
On 12/13/2014 11:47 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
The nekkid kung-fu battle in episode 2 was definitely worth watching. :-)
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 6:10 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
STARZ of course is another cable/satellite cartel premium channel not
accessible to cable cutters. You may find it interesting and outrageous what
other channel is no longer accessible unless you have a cable/satellite
subscription: C-SPAN. Yup, someone on the radio stream was talking about the
debate over the budget showing on C-SPAN so I went to cspan.org and clicked on
it and it wanted the login to my cable or satellite provider. Seems I missed
that this has been the case since summer. One more stroke against democracy by
the fascist pigs!
America truly is the NAZI Germany of the 21st century and run by the Fourth
Reich.
On 12/13/2014 01:11 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Have you checked out Outlander? Gorgeous production, and a pretty
interesting story to boot. The lead actress -- Catriona Balfe -- is a former
Vogue and Elle cover girl who had been studying acting before she was scouted
into the modeling world, and returned to her original dream with this series.
She's as good an actress as she is lovely.
Outlander | New Series | STARZ
| |
| || | | | | |
| Outlander | New Series | STARZ |
|
|
| View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|
|
| |
From: ultrarishi no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 6:47 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
We gave the first episode of Marco Polo a shot tonight and enjoyed the
hell out of it. I think this will tide me over until Da Vinci's Demons
returns, since it is in a similar vain. Beautiful production.
Is this the Weinstein Company's first venture into television?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
Not funny. Not funny. When it comes to axioms, I'm pretty much a stubborn hardass wanting his own way. Plus, the joke was from Terk, (which rhymes with unwiped asshole) so we know the intent was to, well, let's spell it out: Turqy was once again trying to portray my mind as inferior to such a degree that a cogent reply to anything I might come up with was completely unnecessary. To dismiss so trollfully is the mark of a mind that can't muster even the first counter argument in a debate -- and knows it. He's a coward, but not even a clever one as he tries to prevent his lack of ken from being discovered. Who here doesn't know how shallow his reach is? I don't like his personality -- it's a shambles of brokenness, and he knows it, so he keeps poking at me and anyone who has a POV -- trying to get at folks so's they are embarrassed to even show up, let alone speak up, while all the time keeping the attentions of everyone on anything but his own flaws. In short the guy is a dick. A fuck. A mean, lost, creepy-ass schizoid out to harm big, harm small, harm harm harm. A guy who'd be beat up instantly if he pulled this shit in a bar.No way he's still living if he was like this in real life. So, no, I'm not laughing at someone who comes here to SOLELY try to piss everyone off without regard for true inquiry, scholarship or merits of the debate topic.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
Better to be a dick than to stand around waving one. :-) But to correct Edg, it's not just him that's not worth arguing with. It's everyone. Arguing about meaningless shit is for fools. And, obviously, dick-wavers. :-) From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives Not funny. Not funny. When it comes to axioms, I'm pretty much a stubborn hardass wanting his own way. Plus, the joke was from Terk, (which rhymes with unwiped asshole) so we know the intent was to, well, let's spell it out: Turqy was once again trying to portray my mind as inferior to such a degree that a cogent reply to anything I might come up with was completely unnecessary. To dismiss so trollfully is the mark of a mind that can't muster even the first counter argument in a debate -- and knows it. He's a coward, but not even a clever one as he tries to prevent his lack of ken from being discovered. Who here doesn't know how shallow his reach is? I don't like his personality -- it's a shambles of brokenness, and he knows it, so he keeps poking at me and anyone who has a POV -- trying to get at folks so's they are embarrassed to even show up, let alone speak up, while all the time keeping the attentions of everyone on anything but his own flaws. In short the guy is a dick. A fuck. A mean, lost, creepy-ass schizoid out to harm big, harm small, harm harm harm. A guy who'd be beat up instantly if he pulled this shit in a bar.No way he's still living if he was like this in real life. So, no, I'm not laughing at someone who comes here to SOLELY try to piss everyone off without regard for true inquiry, scholarship or merits of the debate topic.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
The best is yet to come. On a lighter note I enjoyed Get Santa which is a UK Christmas comedy with Jim Broadbent. If you like British humor this is a good one and not soppy like American Christmas movies outside of Bad Santa and Harold and Kumar. Also on Netflix. On 12/15/2014 09:15 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */Watching it now. Haven't gotten to any nekkid kung fu yet. Someone was just beheaded, probably for confusing awareness with consciousness. :-)/* *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 6:10 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives And episode 3? ;-) On 12/13/2014 11:47 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */The nekkid kung-fu battle in episode 2 was definitely worth watching. :-)/* *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 6:10 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives STARZ of course is another cable/satellite cartel premium channel not accessible to cable cutters. You may find it interesting and outrageous what other channel is no longer accessible unless you have a cable/satellite subscription: C-SPAN. Yup, someone on the radio stream was talking about the debate over the budget showing on C-SPAN so I went to cspan.org and clicked on it and it wanted the login to my cable or satellite provider. Seems I missed that this has been the case since summer. One more stroke against democracy by the fascist pigs! America truly is the NAZI Germany of the 21st century and run by the Fourth Reich. On 12/13/2014 01:11 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com mailto:turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: */Have you checked out Outlander? Gorgeous production, and a pretty interesting story to boot. The lead actress -- Catriona Balfe -- is a former Vogue and Elle cover girl who had been studying acting before she was scouted into the modeling world, and returned to her original dream with this series. She's as good an actress as she is lovely. /* */Outlander | New Series | STARZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkizwJUiVjA/* */ /* image https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkizwJUiVjA Outlander | New Series | STARZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkizwJUiVjA View on www.youtube.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkizwJUiVjA Preview by Yahoo *From:* ultrarishi no_re...@yahoogroups.com mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, December 13, 2014 6:47 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives We gave the first episode of Marco Polo a shot tonight and enjoyed the hell out of it. I think this will tide me over until Da Vinci's Demons returns, since it is in a similar vain. Beautiful production. Is this the Weinstein Company's first venture into television?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
Ya talkin' about WillyTex? Looks like he now pestering The Peak. :-D On 12/15/2014 09:42 AM, Duveyoung wrote: Not funny. Not funny. When it comes to axioms, I'm pretty much a stubborn hardass wanting his own way. Plus, the joke was from Terk, (which rhymes with unwiped asshole) so we know the intent was to, well, let's spell it out: Turqy was once again trying to portray my mind as inferior to such a degree that a cogent reply to anything I might come up with was completely unnecessary. To dismiss so trollfully is the mark of a mind that can't muster even the first counter argument in a debate -- and knows it. He's a coward, but not even a clever one as he tries to prevent his lack of ken from being discovered. Who here doesn't know how shallow his reach is? I don't like his personality -- it's a shambles of brokenness, and he knows it, so he keeps poking at me and anyone who has a POV -- trying to get at folks so's they are embarrassed to even show up, let alone speak up, while all the time keeping the attentions of everyone on anything but his own flaws. In short the guy is a dick. A fuck. A mean, lost, creepy-ass schizoid out to harm big, harm small, harm harm harm. A guy who'd be beat up instantly if he pulled this shit in a bar.No way he's still living if he was like this in real life. So, no, I'm not laughing at someone who comes here to SOLELY try to piss everyone off without regard for true inquiry, scholarship or merits of the debate topic.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Ya talkin' about WillyTex? Looks like he now pestering The Peak. :-D
Nah. Edg has always disliked me because I've never taken him and his posturing
seriously. Never. Not even once. Never will.
WillyTex he might be able to overlook, but that, he can never forgive. :-)
On 12/15/2014 09:42 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
Not funny. Not funny. When it comes to axioms, I'm pretty much a stubborn
hardass wanting his own way.
Plus, the joke was from Terk, (which rhymes with unwiped asshole) so we know
the intent was to, well, let's spell it out: Turqy was once again trying to
portray my mind as inferior to such a degree that a cogent reply to anything I
might come up with was completely unnecessary.
To dismiss so trollfully is the mark of a mind that can't muster even the
first counter argument in a debate -- and knows it. He's a coward, but not
even a clever one as he tries to prevent his lack of ken from being discovered.
Who here doesn't know how shallow his reach is?
I don't like his personality -- it's a shambles of brokenness, and he knows
it, so he keeps poking at me and anyone who has a POV -- trying to get at folks
so's they are embarrassed to even show up, let alone speak up, while all the
time keeping the attentions of everyone on anything but his own flaws.
In short the guy is a dick. A fuck. A mean, lost, creepy-ass schizoid out to
harm big, harm small, harm harm harm. A guy who'd be beat up instantly if he
pulled this shit in a bar.No way he's still living if he was like this in real
life.
So, no, I'm not laughing at someone who comes here to SOLELY try to piss
everyone off without regard for true inquiry, scholarship or merits of the
debate topic.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Greeks had a word for it
Then there are the pop-up kind. This article points out the problems that San Francisco and Seattle had given trying to support the disabled. The disabled are such a small percentage that it wouldn't hurt establishments to let them use their facilities though it would probably be viewed as inverse discrimination. Also around here we have disabled meth freaks. http://www.johnchow.com/the-worlds-most-high-tech-urinal/ On 12/14/2014 11:46 PM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : These open-view urinals for men have just started appearing in London. I can't see why they don't just instruct the gentlemen to go and piss against a nearby wall. OMG, that's disgusting! Where are these things? And where do you wash your hands? And why do they feel the need to mark them a men's logo, are there women's versions on the way? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : San Francisco wanted to put in toilets downtown on the streets. A French company makes self cleaning units which were ideal. They could only accommodate one person at a time and so drug dealers couldn't use them which was a concern. Then the Disabilities People yelled and they had to get ones that were large enough for them. Which meant that drug dealers could use them. The French company doesn't make them like that and I think the ones they got aren't self cleaning. I think it would have been a better idea to pass a law requiring establishments to allow the disabled to use their facilities and leave the single user systems on the street. Of course that would have caused yet another kerfuffle. On 12/14/2014 03:38 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: For anyone thinking of visiting the UK be aware we have some of the most disgusting public toilets this side of a Third World hell-hole during a dysentery outbreak. I'm serious. Make sure you buy a Radar Key (£2:45 on Amazon) - which gets you access to toilets for the disabled. They're the only ones maintained to a decent standard apart from expensive facilities at tourist traps. Otherwise you'll have to stock up on disposable toilet seat covers, pocket tissue sachets, and you'll have to learn the art of sitting on the loo with one leg outstretched to keep the cubicle door shut as the lock is invariably broken. The best place for numerous, free and clean public toilets is Tokyo. That could be a better holiday destination. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seerdope@... mailto:seerdope@... wrote : Assessing civilization by it its number of toilets is a wonderful metric and embodies all that makes the United States (and Netherlands) the greatest countries in the world. Toilets are a grand testament to our technological savvy in designing billion dollar systems to rid ourselves of icky stuff. I mean its just organic crap like nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium and all that boring like chemistry stuff Good riddance. Far more sophisticated to use civilized chemical fertilizers. We get to to use all those magnificent big, high tech mining machines to transform the earth from mere dirt to huge craters. Ah the glories western civilization. We rock. And look at countries like india -- they produce only 10% as much CO2 per capital of the US (15% as much as the Dutch). What losers. Would you believe that I actually read Small is Beautiful back the mid 70's. I have to laugh -- back in college I was so deluded. What a hoot. A totally looney-bin hippie manifesto. Schumaker probably hated toilets. and would have tooted graywater and growing fresh vegetables. As if !. I am glad men of the world like us see through such garbage. Came across a review the other day. I think the copious amounts of acid his mother must of taken never really left the writers brain. Small is Beautiful was a radical challenge to the 20th century's intoxication with what Schumacher described as gigantism. For several decades, mass production methods were producing more cheap goods than ever before; the mass media and mass culture opened up new opportunities to a wider audience than ever. It was creating bigger markets and bigger political entities. .. he believed such scale led to a dehumanisation of people and the economic systems that ordered their lives. One of the recurrent themes through the book is how modern organisations stripped the satisfaction out of work, making the worker no more than an anonymous cog in a huge machine. Craft skill was no longer important, nor was the quality of human relationship: human beings were expected to act like adjuncts to the machines of the production line. The economic system was similarly dehumanising, making decisions on the basis of profitability rather than human need... What Schumacher wanted was a people-centred economics because
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
Edg seems to have caught something from Buck. Old age? :-D On 12/15/2014 10:00 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Ya talkin' about WillyTex? Looks like he now pestering The Peak. :-D */ /* */Nah. Edg has always disliked me because I've never taken him and his posturing seriously. Never. Not even once. Never will. /* */ /* */WillyTex he might be able to overlook, but that, he can never forgive. :-)/* On 12/15/2014 09:42 AM, Duveyoung wrote: Not funny. Not funny. When it comes to axioms, I'm pretty much a stubborn hardass wanting his own way. Plus, the joke was from Terk, (which rhymes with unwiped asshole) so we know the intent was to, well, let's spell it out: Turqy was once again trying to portray my mind as inferior to such a degree that a cogent reply to anything I might come up with was completely unnecessary. To dismiss so trollfully is the mark of a mind that can't muster even the first counter argument in a debate -- and knows it. He's a coward, but not even a clever one as he tries to prevent his lack of ken from being discovered. Who here doesn't know how shallow his reach is? I don't like his personality -- it's a shambles of brokenness, and he knows it, so he keeps poking at me and anyone who has a POV -- trying to get at folks so's they are embarrassed to even show up, let alone speak up, while all the time keeping the attentions of everyone on anything but his own flaws. In short the guy is a dick. A fuck. A mean, lost, creepy-ass schizoid out to harm big, harm small, harm harm harm. A guy who'd be beat up instantly if he pulled this shit in a bar.No way he's still living if he was like this in real life. So, no, I'm not laughing at someone who comes here to SOLELY try to piss everyone off without regard for true inquiry, scholarship or merits of the debate topic.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Edg seems to have caught something from Buck. Old age? :-D
Drama queen-itis.
On 12/15/2014 10:00 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Ya talkin' about WillyTex? Looks like he now pestering The Peak.
:-D
Nah. Edg has always disliked me because I've never taken him and his
posturing seriously. Never. Not even once. Never will.
WillyTex he might be able to overlook, but that, he can never forgive. :-)
On 12/15/2014 09:42 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
Not funny. Not funny. When it comes to axioms, I'm pretty much a stubborn
hardass wanting his own way.
Plus, the joke was from Terk, (which rhymes with unwiped asshole) so we know
the intent was to, well, let's spell it out: Turqy was once again trying to
portray my mind as inferior to such a degree that a cogent reply to anything I
might come up with was completely unnecessary.
To dismiss so trollfully is the mark of a mind that can't muster even the
first counter argument in a debate -- and knows it. He's a coward, but not
even a clever one as he tries to prevent his lack of ken from being
discovered. Who here doesn't know how shallow his reach is?
I don't like his personality -- it's a shambles of brokenness, and he knows
it, so he keeps poking at me and anyone who has a POV -- trying to get at folks
so's they are embarrassed to even show up, let alone speak up, while all the
time keeping the attentions of everyone on anything but his own flaws.
In short the guy is a dick. A fuck. A mean, lost, creepy-ass schizoid out to
harm big, harm small, harm harm harm. A guy who'd be beat up instantly if he
pulled this shit in a bar.No way he's still living if he was like this in real
life.
So, no, I'm not laughing at someone who comes here to SOLELY try to piss
everyone off without regard for true inquiry, scholarship or merits of the
debate topic.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com The best is yet to come. Claudia Kim (wrestling babe) is in the new Avengers movie. Joss Whedon always finds just the best women ever to be in his movies. :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
Sorry, Edg, didn't know you and turq had an ongoing contretemps. What's weird
about that is that you're such an amazing writer and turq seems to admire such
gifts. Anyway, soldier on. Better yet, solder on over at the_peak. Some old
buddies of yours are there.
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
Not funny. Not funny. When it comes to axioms, I'm pretty much a stubborn
hardass wanting his own way.
Plus, the joke was from Terk, (which rhymes with unwiped asshole) so we know
the intent was to, well, let's spell it out: Turqy was once again trying to
portray my mind as inferior to such a degree that a cogent reply to anything I
might come up with was completely unnecessary.
To dismiss so trollfully is the mark of a mind that can't muster even the first
counter argument in a debate -- and knows it. He's a coward, but not even a
clever one as he tries to prevent his lack of ken from being discovered. Who
here doesn't know how shallow his reach is?
I don't like his personality -- it's a shambles of brokenness, and he knows it,
so he keeps poking at me and anyone who has a POV -- trying to get at folks
so's they are embarrassed to even show up, let alone speak up, while all the
time keeping the attentions of everyone on anything but his own flaws.
In short the guy is a dick. A fuck. A mean, lost, creepy-ass schizoid out to
harm big, harm small, harm harm harm. A guy who'd be beat up instantly if he
pulled this shit in a bar.No way he's still living if he was like this in real
life.
So, no, I'm not laughing at someone who comes here to SOLELY try to piss
everyone off without regard for true inquiry, scholarship or merits of the
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
What the fuck's with youse guys -- I post a few comic blurbs about awareness not being consciousness, and all I get is you're a putz and age? How very fucking indecent of you -- those are two INHUMAN responses. Utterly void of good intent. These are your fucking personalities? -- this is what you get up with in the morning? You life is funzies only if you're able to maliciously heap up on someone with a strong opinion where you have, it seems, killed that area of your brains that could support that opinion? -- with previously indulged in hate, anger, life-long recriminations of failure? -- WHAT? HOLY FUCK, HOW MISERABLE ARE YOU? It's shit like those responses that ENCOURAGE Willy etc. He's just too stupid to mount up to your level of smarm. That makes you his mentor. Have either of you two ever tried to get ONE TRUTH explicated, deconstructed, approached, hinted at? -- anything you can brag about having brought to this community that is, you know, SPIRITUALLY WORTH ANYONE'S NOTICE? Awareness is not consciousness. That's fucking gold. That could be the start of ten thousand good conversations. What have you brought to this community that has this clarifying power? Fuck your history, your celebrity name dropping, your travel shit, your computers-honcho shit, your astrology shit, your Sanskrit shit, your tantra shit, -- NAME ONE THING TRUE YOU'VE CHAMPIONED that has any value in helping other here gain clarity about the human condition. At best you're parroting other opinions instead of trying to ferret out the truth with the minds that come here every day and willing to do that spade work. You're both a couple of righteous ass pricks as far as your actions here go. Snobs. But your're nothing-known-very-well snobs -- the worse kind. At best, you're C+ personalities. You're whistling past the graveyard on most topics -- afraid you'll be found lacking. I admit my many difficulties arriving at clarity, but you two strut around here like you're on some sort of stilts, and you do so when there's folks here that outrank you in every way possible: spiritual, psychological, sociological, career-wise, money-wise, IQ-wise, heart-wise, education-wise, world-experience-wise, and on and on, and you two just are the spitball champs snickering in the back of the class. It's low. It's small. It's not gunna get ya into a high heaven. And worst of all, your spitballs are pathetic -- you don't even have a Don Rickles funny-side to your posts -- no bite, no irony, no satire -- all we get from you two is a total lack of creativity in every single post I've ever read of yours -- and I read almost all of them. You both stink of ego that's been hardened into a sour POV that's just not going to get straightened out in the life left to you. Sucks, eh?
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Greeks had a word for it
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Haven't you read the Bible s3raphita? It specifically states there are dire consequences for those who pisseth against the wall - thus the need for open toilets that Our Lord not feel obligated to visit wholesale destruction upon the populace of the UK. Yes, I'd forgotten about that text - and the phrase is so memorable: him that pisseth against the wall. A Google search tells me: It was evidently a proverbial expression in Israel, probably applied to those men who were of such arrogant and evil temperament as to blatantly engage in public urination against the walls of those they disliked. Makes you wonder what blatant acts the women engaged in who were of arrogant and evil temperament . . . From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Greeks had a word for it ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : These open-view urinals for men have just started appearing in London. I can't see why they don't just instruct the gentlemen to go and piss against a nearby wall. OMG, that's disgusting! Where are these things? And where do you wash your hands? And why do they feel the need to mark them a men's logo, are there women's versions on the way? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : San Francisco wanted to put in toilets downtown on the streets. A French company makes self cleaning units which were ideal. They could only accommodate one person at a time and so drug dealers couldn't use them which was a concern. Then the Disabilities People yelled and they had to get ones that were large enough for them. Which meant that drug dealers could use them. The French company doesn't make them like that and I think the ones they got aren't self cleaning. I think it would have been a better idea to pass a law requiring establishments to allow the disabled to use their facilities and leave the single user systems on the street. Of course that would have caused yet another kerfuffle. On 12/14/2014 03:38 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: For anyone thinking of visiting the UK be aware we have some of the most disgusting public toilets this side of a Third World hell-hole during a dysentery outbreak. I'm serious. Make sure you buy a Radar Key (£2:45 on Amazon) - which gets you access to toilets for the disabled. They're the only ones maintained to a decent standard apart from expensive facilities at tourist traps. Otherwise you'll have to stock up on disposable toilet seat covers, pocket tissue sachets, and you'll have to learn the art of sitting on the loo with one leg outstretched to keep the cubicle door shut as the lock is invariably broken. The best place for numerous, free and clean public toilets is Tokyo. That could be a better holiday destination. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seerdope@... mailto:seerdope@... wrote : Assessing civilization by it its number of toilets is a wonderful metric and embodies all that makes the United States (and Netherlands) the greatest countries in the world. Toilets are a grand testament to our technological savvy in designing billion dollar systems to rid ourselves of icky stuff. I mean its just organic crap like nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium and all that boring like chemistry stuff Good riddance. Far more sophisticated to use civilized chemical fertilizers. We get to to use all those magnificent big, high tech mining machines to transform the earth from mere dirt to huge craters. Ah the glories western civilization. We rock. And look at countries like india -- they produce only 10% as much CO2 per capital of the US (15% as much as the Dutch). What losers. Would you believe that I actually read Small is Beautiful back the mid 70's. I have to laugh -- back in college I was so deluded. What a hoot. A totally looney-bin hippie manifesto. Schumaker probably hated toilets. and would have tooted graywater and growing fresh vegetables. As if !. I am glad men of the world like us see through such garbage. Came across a review the other day. I think the copious amounts of acid his mother must of taken never really left the writers brain. Small is Beautiful was a radical challenge to the 20th century's intoxication with what Schumacher described as gigantism. For several decades, mass production methods were producing more cheap goods than ever before; the mass media and mass culture opened up new opportunities to a wider audience than ever. It was creating bigger markets and bigger political entities. .. he believed such scale led to a dehumanisation of people and the economic systems that ordered their lives. One of the recurrent themes through
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
Close your eyes and tells us where your awareness ends. On 12/15/2014 01:59 PM, Duveyoung wrote: What the fuck's with youse guys -- I post a few comic blurbs about awareness not being consciousness, and all I get is you're a putz and age? How very fucking indecent of you -- those are two INHUMAN responses. Utterly void of good intent. These are your fucking personalities? -- this is what you get up with in the morning? You life is funzies only if you're able to maliciously heap up on someone with a strong opinion where you have, it seems, killed that area of your brains that could support that opinion? -- with previously indulged in hate, anger, life-long recriminations of failure? -- WHAT? HOLY FUCK, HOW MISERABLE ARE YOU? It's shit like those responses that ENCOURAGE Willy etc. He's just too stupid to mount up to your level of smarm. That makes you his mentor. Have either of you two ever tried to get ONE TRUTH explicated, deconstructed, approached, hinted at? -- anything you can brag about having brought to this community that is, you know, SPIRITUALLY WORTH ANYONE'S NOTICE? Awareness is not consciousness. That's fucking gold. That could be the start of ten thousand good conversations. What have you brought to this community that has this clarifying power? Fuck your history, your celebrity name dropping, your travel shit, your computers-honcho shit, your astrology shit, your Sanskrit shit, your tantra shit, -- NAME ONE THING TRUE YOU'VE CHAMPIONED that has any value in helping other here gain clarity about the human condition. At best you're parroting other opinions instead of trying to ferret out the truth with the minds that come here every day and willing to do that spade work. You're both a couple of righteous ass pricks as far as your actions here go. Snobs. But your're nothing-known-very-well snobs -- the worse kind. At best, you're C+ personalities. You're whistling past the graveyard on most topics -- afraid you'll be found lacking. I admit my many difficulties arriving at clarity, but you two strut around here like you're on some sort of stilts, and you do so when there's folks here that outrank you in every way possible: spiritual, psychological, sociological, career-wise, money-wise, IQ-wise, heart-wise, education-wise, world-experience-wise, and on and on, and you two just are the spitball champs snickering in the back of the class. It's low. It's small. It's not gunna get ya into a high heaven. And worst of all, your spitballs are pathetic -- you don't even have a Don Rickles funny-side to your posts -- no bite, no irony, no satire -- all we get from you two is a total lack of creativity in every single post I've ever read of yours -- and I read almost all of them. You both stink of ego that's been hardened into a sour POV that's just not going to get straightened out in the life left to you. Sucks, eh?
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Please cite the post where someone called you a putz, Edg. You're so
hysterical you're hallucinating. All I did was react to yet another instance of
your posturing, argumentative, stuck-in-your-head ego-nonsense by laughing at
you, and inviting others to do the same. One would think you'd be used to that
by now.
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
What the fuck's with youse guys -- I post a few comic blurbs about
awareness not being consciousness, and all I get is you're a putz and age?
How very fucking indecent of you -- those are two INHUMAN responses. Utterly
void of good intent.
These are your fucking personalities? -- this is what you get up with in the
morning? You life is funzies only if you're able to maliciously heap up on
someone with a strong opinion where you have, it seems, killed that area of
your brains that could support that opinion? -- with previously indulged in
hate, anger, life-long recriminations of failure? -- WHAT?
HOLY FUCK, HOW MISERABLE ARE YOU?
It's shit like those responses that ENCOURAGE Willy etc. He's just too stupid
to mount up to your level of smarm. That makes you his mentor.
Have either of you two ever tried to get ONE TRUTH explicated, deconstructed,
approached, hinted at? -- anything you can brag about having brought to this
community that is, you know, SPIRITUALLY WORTH ANYONE'S NOTICE?
Awareness is not consciousness. That's fucking gold. That could be the start
of ten thousand good conversations. What have you brought to this community
that has this clarifying power?
Fuck your history, your celebrity name dropping, your travel shit, your
computers-honcho shit, your astrology shit, your Sanskrit shit, your tantra
shit, -- NAME ONE THING TRUE YOU'VE CHAMPIONED that has any value in helping
other here gain clarity about the human condition. At best you're parroting
other opinions instead of trying to ferret out the truth with the minds that
come here every day and willing to do that spade work.
You're both a couple of righteous ass pricks as far as your actions here go.
Snobs. But your're nothing-known-very-well snobs -- the worse kind. At best,
you're C+ personalities. You're whistling past the graveyard on most topics --
afraid you'll be found lacking.
I admit my many difficulties arriving at clarity, but you two strut around here
like you're on some sort of stilts, and you do so when there's folks here that
outrank you in every way possible: spiritual, psychological, sociological,
career-wise, money-wise, IQ-wise, heart-wise, education-wise,
world-experience-wise, and on and on, and you two just are the spitball champs
snickering in the back of the class.
It's low. It's small. It's not gunna get ya into a high heaven.
And worst of all, your spitballs are pathetic -- you don't even have a Don
Rickles funny-side to your posts -- no bite, no irony, no satire -- all we get
from you two is a total lack of creativity in every single post I've ever read
of yours -- and I read almost all of them. You both stink of ego that's been
hardened into a sour POV that's just not going to get straightened out in the
life left to you. Sucks, eh?
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noozguru wrote : Close your eyes and tells us where your awareness ends. Every time I write about this stuff I get just a bit more able to keep to the central issues. So on that level, I thank you for the reply. Awareness is not consciousness. You, above, used the word your as if my ego (or my nervous system, my mind, my brain and/or my Being -- take your pick) had some sort of natural right to own awareness as if it were some sort of personal thing over which I would have some sort of hegemony. BAH! Awareness is beyond beginnings and endings -- it's not a dimensional thing or it or whatever -- if you have a category, piss off, awareness is beyond it no matter what. Whatever my mind is able to do is a product of my nervous system -- NOT AWARENESS. Compare: Awareness is beyond the does or does not; whereas, mind is a processing of, what?, billions of chemical operations per thought? THAT'S NOT AWARENESS. Awareness is not a doing or non-doing. It's not an it. It's not in or out of existence. That which is aware is awareness solely -- consciousness merely attempts to chemically embody and internally structure itself to symbolize awareness -- this is labeled I am. If a thought comes, I am changes to I am that thought. That's consciousness pretending it is sentient. BAH. Consciousness is an identity whore. The monkey who will jump to any branch -- that's the Ved symbol for how the mind attends to its processes -- NOT how awareness or identity is changing or moving or whatever. Awareness is beyond isness and isnotness. Consciousness (Being) is all about parochial expression in a nervous system. (I'm willing to grant that maybe the universe is a giant nervous system and that that would be the foundation of our understanding of the term, universal consciousness. Remember, I'm not the person saying this shit. I'm merely reporting Advaita axioms -- why? -- because I think we'd all be edified to see this CRUCIAL difference between these two concepts of awareness and consciousness. The concept, awareness, is merely a place holder for we don't have a way to conceptualize this non-this non-thingy thingy. Had enough of me? Don't blame you, so here's Nisargadatta -- who was the real deal as far as I can tell from my many years of reading his shit. But what would I know? One thing I bet is that no one here can best his logic about the present issue. Here: Maharaj: The present 'I am' is as false as the 'I was' and 'I shall be'. It is merely an idea in the mind, an impression left by memory, and the separate identity it creates is false. This habit of referring to a false centre must be done away with, the notion 'I see', 'I feel', 'I think', 'I do', must disappear from the field of consciousness; what remains when the false is no more, is real. and: There can be no transition from consciousness to awareness, for awareness is not a form of consciousness. Consciousness can only become more subtle and refined and that is what happens after death. As the various vehicles of man die off, the modes of consciousness induced by them also fade away. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Close your eyes and tells us where your awareness ends. On 12/15/2014 01:59 PM, Duveyoung wrote: What the fuck's with youse guys -- I post a few comic blurbs about awareness not being consciousness, and all I get is you're a putz and age? How very fucking indecent of you -- those are two INHUMAN responses. Utterly void of good intent. These are your fucking personalities? -- this is what you get up with in the morning? You life is funzies only if you're able to maliciously heap up on someone with a strong opinion where you have, it seems, killed that area of your brains that could support that opinion? -- with previously indulged in hate, anger, life-long recriminations of failure? -- WHAT? HOLY FUCK, HOW MISERABLE ARE YOU? It's shit like those responses that ENCOURAGE Willy etc. He's just too stupid to mount up to your level of smarm. That makes you his mentor. Have either of you two ever tried to get ONE TRUTH explicated, deconstructed, approached, hinted at? -- anything you can brag about having brought to this community that is, you know, SPIRITUALLY WORTH ANYONE'S NOTICE? Awareness is not consciousness. That's fucking gold. That could be the start of ten thousand good conversations. What have you brought to this community that has this clarifying power? Fuck your history, your celebrity name dropping, your travel shit, your computers-honcho shit, your astrology shit, your Sanskrit shit, your tantra shit, -- NAME ONE THING TRUE YOU'VE CHAMPIONED that has any value in helping other here gain clarity about the human condition. At best you're parroting other opinions instead of trying to ferret out the truth with the minds that come here every day and willing to do that
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Non-responsive. This is you being a fuckwad. A dick. A turd. Delicious is it? Ya love yourself doing this kind of disrespect TO ALMOST EVERYONE here? This is your pose to the world? This is how you look when someone takes a snapshot of ya? This is pathetic. You're a one-man filler for the space emptied by the Peak folks. What in the hell fucked you up this much?
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Anyone able to turn something this meaningless into an argument really NEEDS to be put in a corner and laughed at until he lightens up. Is this really what it's LIKE inside your head? From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 1:46 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives noozguru wrote : Close your eyes and tells us where your awareness ends. Every time I write about this stuff I get just a bit more able to keep to the central issues. So on that level, I thank you for the reply. Awareness is not consciousness. You, above, used the word your as if my ego (or my nervous system, my mind, my brain and/or my Being -- take your pick) had some sort of natural right to own awareness as if it were some sort of personal thing over which I would have some sort of hegemony. BAH! Awareness is beyond beginnings and endings -- it's not a dimensional thing or it or whatever -- if you have a category, piss off, awareness is beyond it no matter what. Whatever my mind is able to do is a product of my nervous system -- NOT AWARENESS. Compare: Awareness is beyond the does or does not; whereas, mind is a processing of, what?, billions of chemical operations per thought? THAT'S NOT AWARENESS. Awareness is not a doing or non-doing. It's not an it. It's not in or out of existence. That which is aware is awareness solely -- consciousness merely attempts to chemically embody and internally structure itself to symbolize awareness -- this is labeled I am. If a thought comes, I am changes to I am that thought. That's consciousness pretending it is sentient. BAH. Consciousness is an identity whore. The monkey who will jump to any branch -- that's the Ved symbol for how the mind attends to its processes -- NOT how awareness or identity is changing or moving or whatever. Awareness is beyond isness and isnotness. Consciousness (Being) is all about parochial expression in a nervous system. (I'm willing to grant that maybe the universe is a giant nervous system and that that would be the foundation of our understanding of the term, universal consciousness. Remember, I'm not the person saying this shit. I'm merely reporting Advaita axioms -- why? -- because I think we'd all be edified to see this CRUCIAL difference between these two concepts of awareness and consciousness. The concept, awareness, is merely a place holder for we don't have a way to conceptualize this non-this non-thingy thingy. Had enough of me? Don't blame you, so here's Nisargadatta -- who was the real deal as far as I can tell from my many years of reading his shit. But what would I know? One thing I bet is that no one here can best his logic about the present issue. Here: Maharaj: The present 'I am' is as false as the 'I was' and 'I shall be'.It is merely an idea in the mind, an impression left by memory, and the separate identity it creates is false.This habit of referring to a false centre must be done away with, the notion 'I see', 'I feel', 'I think', 'I do', must disappear from the field of consciousness; what remains when the false is no more, is real. and: There can be no transition from consciousness to awareness, for awareness is not a form of consciousness. Consciousness can only become more subtle and refined and that is what happens after death. As the various vehicles of man die off, the modes of consciousness induced by them also fade away. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Close your eyes and tells us where yourawareness ends. On 12/15/2014 01:59 PM, Duveyoung wrote: What the fuck's with youse guys -- I post a few comicblurbs about awareness not being consciousness, and all Iget is you're a putz and age? How very fucking indecent of you -- those are two INHUMANresponses. Utterly void of good intent. These are your fucking personalities? -- this is what youget up with in the morning? You life is funzies only ifyou're able to maliciously heap up on someone with astrong opinion where you have, it seems, killed that areaof your brains that could support that opinion? -- withpreviously indulged in hate, anger, life-longrecriminations of failure? -- WHAT? HOLY FUCK, HOW MISERABLE ARE YOU? It's shit like those responses that ENCOURAGE Willyetc. He's just too stupid to mount up to your level ofsmarm. That makes you his mentor. Have either of you two ever tried to get ONE TRUTHexplicated, deconstructed, approached, hinted at? --anything you can brag about having brought to thiscommunity that is, you know, SPIRITUALLY WORTH ANYONE'SNOTICE? Awareness is not consciousness. That's fucking gold.That could be the start of ten thousand goodconversations. What have you brought to this communitythat has this clarifying power? Fuck your history, your celebrity name dropping, yourtravel shit, your computers-honcho shit, your
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Hey Edg, do you like spicy foods? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11293112/Men-who-like-spicier-food-are-alpha-males-with-higher-levels-of-testosterone-French-report-claims.html On 12/15/2014 01:59 PM, Duveyoung wrote: What the fuck's with youse guys -- I post a few comic blurbs about awareness not being consciousness, and all I get is you're a putz and age? How very fucking indecent of you -- those are two INHUMAN responses. Utterly void of good intent. These are your fucking personalities? -- this is what you get up with in the morning? You life is funzies only if you're able to maliciously heap up on someone with a strong opinion where you have, it seems, killed that area of your brains that could support that opinion? -- with previously indulged in hate, anger, life-long recriminations of failure? -- WHAT? HOLY FUCK, HOW MISERABLE ARE YOU? It's shit like those responses that ENCOURAGE Willy etc. He's just too stupid to mount up to your level of smarm. That makes you his mentor. Have either of you two ever tried to get ONE TRUTH explicated, deconstructed, approached, hinted at? -- anything you can brag about having brought to this community that is, you know, SPIRITUALLY WORTH ANYONE'S NOTICE? Awareness is not consciousness. That's fucking gold. That could be the start of ten thousand good conversations. What have you brought to this community that has this clarifying power? Fuck your history, your celebrity name dropping, your travel shit, your computers-honcho shit, your astrology shit, your Sanskrit shit, your tantra shit, -- NAME ONE THING TRUE YOU'VE CHAMPIONED that has any value in helping other here gain clarity about the human condition. At best you're parroting other opinions instead of trying to ferret out the truth with the minds that come here every day and willing to do that spade work. You're both a couple of righteous ass pricks as far as your actions here go. Snobs. But your're nothing-known-very-well snobs -- the worse kind. At best, you're C+ personalities. You're whistling past the graveyard on most topics -- afraid you'll be found lacking. I admit my many difficulties arriving at clarity, but you two strut around here like you're on some sort of stilts, and you do so when there's folks here that outrank you in every way possible: spiritual, psychological, sociological, career-wise, money-wise, IQ-wise, heart-wise, education-wise, world-experience-wise, and on and on, and you two just are the spitball champs snickering in the back of the class. It's low. It's small. It's not gunna get ya into a high heaven. And worst of all, your spitballs are pathetic -- you don't even have a Don Rickles funny-side to your posts -- no bite, no irony, no satire -- all we get from you two is a total lack of creativity in every single post I've ever read of yours -- and I read almost all of them. You both stink of ego that's been hardened into a sour POV that's just not going to get straightened out in the life left to you. Sucks, eh?
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Again, another callus gross inhuman response. If I were as you assert, how fucked up are you to chastise me -- such a sad sack -- as you've done to almost everyone here? You're abusive. You're harmful. You're hateful. You despise as if it were your hobby. YOU HAVE NEVER TRIED TO HEAL OR HELP OR EDUCATE. You're fucked up in the head. Your deal is hateeverything.
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Hey Edg, I can't really speak knowledgeable about Advaita, but would you have
any thoughts about how this might relate to set theory?
Specifically, first you have nothing
Then you have { } which is the null set. Then you have {0}, which is the set
of 1, but here is really nothing in it, but 0. Then you have {0,1}, which
equals two.
Just some thoughts, which may, or may not illuminate anything. (-;
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
noozguru wrote : Close your eyes and tells us where your awareness ends.
Every time I write about this stuff I get just a bit more able to keep to the
central issues. So on that level, I thank you for the reply.
Awareness is not consciousness. You, above, used the word your as if my ego
(or my nervous system, my mind, my brain and/or my Being -- take your pick)
had some sort of natural right to own awareness as if it were some sort of
personal thing over which I would have some sort of hegemony. BAH!
Awareness is beyond beginnings and endings -- it's not a dimensional thing or
it or whatever -- if you have a category, piss off, awareness is beyond it no
matter what.
Whatever my mind is able to do is a product of my nervous system -- NOT
AWARENESS.
Compare: Awareness is beyond the does or does not; whereas, mind is a
processing of, what?, billions of chemical operations per thought? THAT'S
NOT AWARENESS.
Awareness is not a doing or non-doing. It's not an it. It's not in or out
of existence. That which is aware is awareness solely -- consciousness merely
attempts to chemically embody and internally structure itself to symbolize
awareness -- this is labeled I am. If a thought comes, I am changes to I
am that thought. That's consciousness pretending it is sentient. BAH.
Consciousness is an identity whore. The monkey who will jump to any branch --
that's the Ved symbol for how the mind attends to its processes -- NOT how
awareness or identity is changing or moving or whatever.
Awareness is beyond isness and isnotness. Consciousness (Being) is all about
parochial expression in a nervous system. (I'm willing to grant that maybe the
universe is a giant nervous system and that that would be the foundation of our
understanding of the term, universal consciousness.
Remember, I'm not the person saying this shit. I'm merely reporting Advaita
axioms -- why? -- because I think we'd all be edified to see this CRUCIAL
difference between these two concepts of awareness and consciousness. The
concept, awareness, is merely a place holder for we don't have a way to
conceptualize this non-this non-thingy thingy.
Had enough of me? Don't blame you, so here's Nisargadatta -- who was the real
deal as far as I can tell from my many years of reading his shit. But what
would I know? One thing I bet is that no one here can best his logic about the
present issue.
Here:
Maharaj: The present 'I am' is as false as the 'I was' and 'I shall be'. It is
merely an idea in the mind, an impression left by memory, and the separate
identity it creates is false.
This habit of referring to a false centre must be done away with, the notion
'I see', 'I feel', 'I think', 'I do', must disappear from the field of
consciousness; what remains when the false is no more, is real.
and:
There can be no transition from consciousness to awareness, for awareness
is not a form of consciousness. Consciousness can only become more subtle and
refined and that is what happens after death. As the various vehicles of man
die off, the modes of consciousness induced by them also fade away.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Close your eyes and tells us where your awareness ends.
On 12/15/2014 01:59 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
What the fuck's with youse guys -- I post a few comic blurbs about awareness
not being consciousness, and all I get is you're a putz and age?
How very fucking indecent of you -- those are two INHUMAN responses. Utterly
void of good intent.
These are your fucking personalities? -- this is what you get up with in the
morning? You life is funzies only if you're able to maliciously heap up on
someone with a strong opinion where you have, it seems, killed that area of
your brains that could support that opinion? -- with previously indulged in
hate, anger, life-long recriminations of failure? -- WHAT?
HOLY FUCK, HOW MISERABLE ARE YOU?
It's shit like those responses that ENCOURAGE Willy etc. He's just too stupid
to mount up to your level of smarm. That makes you his mentor.
Have either of you two ever tried to get ONE TRUTH explicated, deconstructed,
approached, hinted at? -- anything you can brag about having brought to this
community that is, you know, SPIRITUALLY WORTH ANYONE'S NOTICE?
Awareness is not consciousness. That's fucking gold. That could be the start
of ten thousand good conversations. What
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
All I can say is that I can finally understand why they don't let him drive
anything more dangerous than a tricycle. Imagine the level of road rage he'd
act out if they let him near a car. :-)
Edg...seriously, dude...reread all of this in the morning when you're sober.
You're really, really embarrassing yourself.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 2:07 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
Hey Edg, do you like spicy foods?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11293112/Men-who-like-spicier-food-are-alpha-males-with-higher-levels-of-testosterone-French-report-claims.html
On 12/15/2014 01:59 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
What the fuck's with youse guys -- I post a few comic blurbs about
awareness not being consciousness, and all I get is you're a putz and age?
How very fucking indecent of you -- those are two INHUMAN responses. Utterly
void of good intent.
These are your fucking personalities? -- this is what you get up with in the
morning? You life is funzies only if you're able to maliciously heap up on
someone with a strong opinion where you have, it seems, killed that area of
your brains that could support that opinion? -- with previously indulged in
hate, anger, life-long recriminations of failure? -- WHAT?
HOLY FUCK, HOW MISERABLE ARE YOU?
It's shit like those responses that ENCOURAGE Willy etc. He's just too
stupid to mount up to your level of smarm. That makes you his mentor.
Have either of you two ever tried to get ONE TRUTH explicated, deconstructed,
approached, hinted at? -- anything you can brag about having brought to this
community that is, you know, SPIRITUALLY WORTH ANYONE'S NOTICE?
Awareness is not consciousness. That's fucking gold. That could be the start
of ten thousand good conversations. What have you brought to this community
that has this clarifying power?
Fuck your history, your celebrity name dropping, your travel shit, your
computers-honcho shit, your astrology shit, your Sanskrit shit, your tantra
shit, -- NAME ONE THING TRUE YOU'VE CHAMPIONED that has any value in helping
other here gain clarity about the human condition. At best you're parroting
other opinions instead of trying to ferret out the truth with the minds that
come here every day and willing to do that spade work.
You're both a couple of righteous ass pricks as far as your actions here go.
Snobs. But your're nothing-known-very-well snobs -- the worse kind. At best,
you're C+ personalities. You're whistling past the graveyard on most topics --
afraid you'll be found lacking.
I admit my many difficulties arriving at clarity, but you two strut around
here like you're on some sort of stilts, and you do so when there's folks here
that outrank you in every way possible: spiritual, psychological, sociological,
career-wise, money-wise, IQ-wise, heart-wise, education-wise,
world-experience-wise, and on and on, and you two just are the spitball champs
snickering in the back of the class.
It's low. It's small. It's not gunna get ya into a high heaven.
And worst of all, your spitballs are pathetic -- you don't even have a Don
Rickles funny-side to your posts -- no bite, no irony, no satire -- all we get
from you two is a total lack of creativity in every single post I've ever read
of yours -- and I read almost all of them. You both stink of ego that's been
hardened into a sour POV that's just not going to get straightened out in the
life left to you. Sucks, eh?
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[FairfieldLife] A Message From Advaita State
A Message From Advaita State (ASSES) http://youtu.be/kya9l6mryMw http://youtu.be/kya9l6mryMw A Message From Advaita State (ASSES) http://youtu.be/kya9l6mryMw All glory to Ramana! View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/kya9l6mryMw Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Message From Advaita State
What a riot. Thanks. I love how lil' ol' me can be seen as so crazy. It's poetry, people.
[FairfieldLife] Re: A Message From Advaita State
Aand, oh yeah, awareness is not a state. And if anyone comes at me like this guy in the vid, he's crazy. Nisargadatta is not to be worshiped. All that's just shit. So so so loved the KNOWLEDGE behind this vid. It was spot onnot just a make fun a religion thing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
I'm not smart enough to do this math. I read The Laws of Form, but it was
mostly beyond me except for some of the broad concepts.
I would bet, though, that there could be found neat parallels between that
book's stuff and what we can assert about laws of consciousness. Ex.: when
consciousness becomes conscious was a Maharishi phrase that could be applied
to, say, the transition from, say, awareness to I am's appearance. But I'm a
math joke. Need a smart person for this. Anyone?
Laws of Form http://lawsofform.org/
http://lawsofform.org/
Laws of Form http://lawsofform.org/ This is a web site inspired by the book
Laws of Form by British mathematician George Spencer-Brown.
View on lawsofform.org http://lawsofform.org/
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote :
Hey Edg, I can't really speak knowledgeable about Advaita, but would you have
any thoughts about how this might relate to set theory?
Specifically, first you have nothing
Then you have { } which is the null set. Then you have {0}, which is the set
of 1, but here is really nothing in it, but 0. Then you have {0,1}, which
equals two.
Just some thoughts, which may, or may not illuminate anything. (-;
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
noozguru wrote : Close your eyes and tells us where your awareness ends.
Every time I write about this stuff I get just a bit more able to keep to the
central issues. So on that level, I thank you for the reply.
Awareness is not consciousness. You, above, used the word your as if my ego
(or my nervous system, my mind, my brain and/or my Being -- take your pick)
had some sort of natural right to own awareness as if it were some sort of
personal thing over which I would have some sort of hegemony. BAH!
Awareness is beyond beginnings and endings -- it's not a dimensional thing or
it or whatever -- if you have a category, piss off, awareness is beyond it no
matter what.
Whatever my mind is able to do is a product of my nervous system -- NOT
AWARENESS.
Compare: Awareness is beyond the does or does not; whereas, mind is a
processing of, what?, billions of chemical operations per thought? THAT'S
NOT AWARENESS.
Awareness is not a doing or non-doing. It's not an it. It's not in or out
of existence. That which is aware is awareness solely -- consciousness merely
attempts to chemically embody and internally structure itself to symbolize
awareness -- this is labeled I am. If a thought comes, I am changes to I
am that thought. That's consciousness pretending it is sentient. BAH.
Consciousness is an identity whore. The monkey who will jump to any branch --
that's the Ved symbol for how the mind attends to its processes -- NOT how
awareness or identity is changing or moving or whatever.
Awareness is beyond isness and isnotness. Consciousness (Being) is all about
parochial expression in a nervous system. (I'm willing to grant that maybe the
universe is a giant nervous system and that that would be the foundation of our
understanding of the term, universal consciousness.
Remember, I'm not the person saying this shit. I'm merely reporting Advaita
axioms -- why? -- because I think we'd all be edified to see this CRUCIAL
difference between these two concepts of awareness and consciousness. The
concept, awareness, is merely a place holder for we don't have a way to
conceptualize this non-this non-thingy thingy.
Had enough of me? Don't blame you, so here's Nisargadatta -- who was the real
deal as far as I can tell from my many years of reading his shit. But what
would I know? One thing I bet is that no one here can best his logic about the
present issue.
Here:
Maharaj: The present 'I am' is as false as the 'I was' and 'I shall be'. It is
merely an idea in the mind, an impression left by memory, and the separate
identity it creates is false.
This habit of referring to a false centre must be done away with, the notion
'I see', 'I feel', 'I think', 'I do', must disappear from the field of
consciousness; what remains when the false is no more, is real.
and:
There can be no transition from consciousness to awareness, for awareness
is not a form of consciousness. Consciousness can only become more subtle and
refined and that is what happens after death. As the various vehicles of man
die off, the modes of consciousness induced by them also fade away.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote :
Close your eyes and tells us where your awareness ends.
On 12/15/2014 01:59 PM, Duveyoung wrote:
What the fuck's with youse guys -- I post a few comic blurbs about awareness
not being consciousness, and all I get is you're a putz and age?
How very fucking indecent of you -- those are two INHUMAN responses. Utterly
void of good intent.
These are your fucking personalities? -- this is what you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
You're tying yourself into knots and over intellectualizing. You got hung up on the word your. How am I supposed to put it? In some complicated way that no one would understand. Sorry, but you know what I mean by that statement and tell us what happens when you do that exercise. Before I learned TM back in 1973 I was reading Raman Maharishi so been there, done that, got the t-shirt or was it a dhoti? It's not that complicated so don't make more complicated than it is. Enlightenment is not a 24/7 acid trip but there are plenty of dummies waiting for that experience. On 12/15/2014 04:46 PM, Duveyoung wrote: noozguru wrote : Close your eyes and tells us where your awareness ends. Every time I write about this stuff I get just a bit more able to keep to the central issues. So on that level, I thank you for the reply. Awareness is not consciousness. You, above, used the word your as if my ego (or my nervous system, my mind, my brain and/or my Being -- take your pick) had some sort of natural right to own awareness as if it were some sort of personal thing over which I would have some sort of hegemony. BAH! Awareness is beyond beginnings and endings -- it's not a dimensional thing or it or whatever -- if you have a category, piss off, awareness is beyond it no matter what. Whatever my mind is able to do is a product of my nervous system -- NOT AWARENESS. Compare: Awareness is beyond the does or does not; whereas, mind is a processing of, what?, billions of chemical operations per thought? THAT'S NOT AWARENESS. Awareness is not a doing or non-doing. It's not an it. It's not in or out of existence. That which is aware is awareness solely -- consciousness merely attempts to chemically embody and internally structure itself to symbolize awareness -- this is labeled I am. If a thought comes, I am changes to I am that thought. That's consciousness pretending it is sentient. BAH. Consciousness is an identity whore. The monkey who will jump to any branch -- that's the Ved symbol for how the mind attends to its processes -- NOT how awareness or identity is changing or moving or whatever. Awareness is beyond isness and isnotness. Consciousness (Being) is all about parochial expression in a nervous system. (I'm willing to grant that maybe the universe is a giant nervous system and that that would be the foundation of our understanding of the term, universal consciousness. Remember, I'm not the person saying this shit. I'm merely reporting Advaita axioms -- why? -- because I think we'd all be edified to see this CRUCIAL difference between these two concepts of awareness and consciousness. The concept, awareness, is merely a place holder for we don't have a way to conceptualize this non-this non-thingy thingy. Had enough of me? Don't blame you, so here's Nisargadatta -- who was the real deal as far as I can tell from my many years of reading his shit. But what would I know? One thing I bet is that no one here can best his logic about the present issue. Here: Maharaj: The present 'I am' is as false as the 'I was' and 'I shall be'. It is merely an idea in the mind, an impression left by memory, and the separate identity it creates is false. This habit of referring to a false centre must be done away with, the notion 'I see', 'I feel', 'I think', 'I do', must disappear from the field of consciousness; what remains when the false is no more, is real. and: There can be no transition from consciousness to awareness, for awareness is not a form of consciousness. Consciousness can only become more subtle and refined and that is what happens after death. As the various vehicles of man die off, the modes of consciousness induced by them also fade away. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Close your eyes and tells us where your awareness ends. On 12/15/2014 01:59 PM, Duveyoung wrote: What the fuck's with youse guys -- I post a few comic blurbs about awareness not being consciousness, and all I get is you're a putz and age? How very fucking indecent of you -- those are two INHUMAN responses. Utterly void of good intent. These are your fucking personalities? -- this is what you get up with in the morning? You life is funzies only if you're able to maliciously heap up on someone with a strong opinion where you have, it seems, killed that area of your brains that could support that opinion? -- with previously indulged in hate, anger, life-long recriminations of failure? -- WHAT? HOLY FUCK, HOW MISERABLE ARE YOU? It's shit like those responses that ENCOURAGE Willy etc. He's just too stupid to mount up to your level of smarm. That makes you his mentor. Have either of you two ever tried to get ONE TRUTH explicated, deconstructed, approached, hinted at? -- anything you can brag about having brought to this community that is, you know, SPIRITUALLY WORTH ANYONE'S NOTICE? Awareness
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
Consciousness can only become more subtle and refined and that is what happens after death. You reckon no one here can logically beat this? This is crap for a start, seems like it's the killer punch to its own credibility. But the rest of it is interesting if you like that sort of thing, but seems to have been caused by the problem of the brain not being able to see how it works by looking at itself. That's why we think there are two things going on in there when they are really aspects of the same thing and I don't see how we can have one without the other. You'll tie yourself in knots trying to turn round fast enough to see how the mind pulls off the trick, maybe you'll go crazy and think there's some sort of eternal aspect to our selves that is beyond our understanding. It sure seems like that but then I fall asleep and the illusion (however it works) disappears. That's what fuels all this speculation, the fact we can't imagine not being here. If you put it all into an evolutionary perspective you lose all the mystical confusion by realising the whole thing has been added to and refined but that type of refining (jn fact the only type) is always a bodge-up there isn't a single part of our bodies that works as well as it would if it had been designed and I see no reason why the brain should be different. But people don't like thinking about it like that, it collapses the wave form away from us being some sort of mystically superior being. But we could probably work out quite easily what previous life forms would have had upstairs, the only difference between us and them is this ability to create endless metaphors. So it's all constructs really, and it's the constructs that are aware of themselves even if they never come to a conclusion about how they work. The problem here is the metaphors taking themselves too seriously. You probably think that's ducking the question but it's just avoiding getting pulled into the endless cycle of ever more mysterious sophistry. We won't work it out how minds work from the inside, at least no one ever has, so it's probably be a good idea to hang five and work out how it's all actually put together and start again from there. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : noozguru wrote : Close your eyes and tells us where your awareness ends. Every time I write about this stuff I get just a bit more able to keep to the central issues. So on that level, I thank you for the reply. Awareness is not consciousness. You, above, used the word your as if my ego (or my nervous system, my mind, my brain and/or my Being -- take your pick) had some sort of natural right to own awareness as if it were some sort of personal thing over which I would have some sort of hegemony. BAH! Awareness is beyond beginnings and endings -- it's not a dimensional thing or it or whatever -- if you have a category, piss off, awareness is beyond it no matter what. Whatever my mind is able to do is a product of my nervous system -- NOT AWARENESS. Compare: Awareness is beyond the does or does not; whereas, mind is a processing of, what?, billions of chemical operations per thought? THAT'S NOT AWARENESS. Awareness is not a doing or non-doing. It's not an it. It's not in or out of existence. That which is aware is awareness solely -- consciousness merely attempts to chemically embody and internally structure itself to symbolize awareness -- this is labeled I am. If a thought comes, I am changes to I am that thought. That's consciousness pretending it is sentient. BAH. Consciousness is an identity whore. The monkey who will jump to any branch -- that's the Ved symbol for how the mind attends to its processes -- NOT how awareness or identity is changing or moving or whatever. Awareness is beyond isness and isnotness. Consciousness (Being) is all about parochial expression in a nervous system. (I'm willing to grant that maybe the universe is a giant nervous system and that that would be the foundation of our understanding of the term, universal consciousness. Remember, I'm not the person saying this shit. I'm merely reporting Advaita axioms -- why? -- because I think we'd all be edified to see this CRUCIAL difference between these two concepts of awareness and consciousness. The concept, awareness, is merely a place holder for we don't have a way to conceptualize this non-this non-thingy thingy. Had enough of me? Don't blame you, so here's Nisargadatta -- who was the real deal as far as I can tell from my many years of reading his shit. But what would I know? One thing I bet is that no one here can best his logic about the present issue. Here: Maharaj: The present 'I am' is as false as the 'I was' and 'I shall be'. It is merely an idea in the mind, an impression left by memory, and the separate identity it creates is false. This habit of referring to a false
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Marco Polo Arrives
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Ya talkin' about WillyTex? Looks like he now pestering The Peak. :-D How deeply joyous for both of us, 'tis indeed the season of glad tidings! On 12/15/2014 09:42 AM, Duveyoung wrote: Not funny. Not funny. When it comes to axioms, I'm pretty much a stubborn hardass wanting his own way. Plus, the joke was from Terk, (which rhymes with unwiped asshole) so we know the intent was to, well, let's spell it out: Turqy was once again trying to portray my mind as inferior to such a degree that a cogent reply to anything I might come up with was completely unnecessary. To dismiss so trollfully is the mark of a mind that can't muster even the first counter argument in a debate -- and knows it. He's a coward, but not even a clever one as he tries to prevent his lack of ken from being discovered. Who here doesn't know how shallow his reach is? I don't like his personality -- it's a shambles of brokenness, and he knows it, so he keeps poking at me and anyone who has a POV -- trying to get at folks so's they are embarrassed to even show up, let alone speak up, while all the time keeping the attentions of everyone on anything but his own flaws. In short the guy is a dick. A fuck. A mean, lost, creepy-ass schizoid out to harm big, harm small, harm harm harm. A guy who'd be beat up instantly if he pulled this shit in a bar.No way he's still living if he was like this in real life. So, no, I'm not laughing at someone who comes here to SOLELY try to piss everyone off without regard for true inquiry, scholarship or merits of the debate topic.
