[FairfieldLife] Re: My crazy dream of the atheist council
Salyavin, The fact that you are aware and conscious as opposed to being a rock means there is a spark of the spirit in you. You may deny any involvement of Divine in your own thinking process. But the question will always be there. And, more likely, you will attempt to think of other reasons why you exist. It's also a sign that you have the free will to think whatever is best for you. As such, you should apply the same rigor and discrimination for adopting the new paradigm that you accept to be true. I'm not sure if you'd have enough time to prove, in scientific terms, any of your new ideas. But, assuming that you are able to gather all of the data, you still won't be able to prove It doesn't exist. Why? Because It is not material. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, Dr. David Bentley Hart would agree with you that the new atheist movement started because of the 9/11 incident. And, Dawkins may or may not have started this movement. Nonetheless, it is apparent that he struck a nerve in many people around the world. And, undoubtedly, he's made a lot money through the sales of his book. I suppose Deepak gives all his money to charity? Demonising a public figure for being popular is odd behaviour I think, like you want to find reasons to dislike him that don't apply to anybody else. But Hart states that Dawkins is making arguments, regarding atheism, that are weak and stupid as judged by the philosophers in academia. He states that Dawkins is not qualified to make such arguments. Specifically, the discussion of Darwins theory, whether it's justified or not, does not prove the existence or non-existence of God. Weak and stupid? I don't think the call for evidence is stupid, it's the way science works. If you have a proposition that the current paradigm is wrong then you have to show where everyone else is in error and say why your new theory is an improvement. The idea that Darwinism is superior to creationism in every way doesn't have to be made any more, the idea that the universe required no help in exploding and forming all the things we see in it also needs no further proof (though no one knows what happened before but the state it's in now severely limits the possibilities). So to overturn our current cornerstones of knowledge will require an idea that renders them inadequate but quantum physics and evolutionary theory are only ever supported by new evidence. They get tighter the more people check them, hardly the sign of weak theories! Also, even if he discussed the current theories about quantum string theory or about the Big Bang, he would not be able to prove the non-existence of God. Why? Because science is limited to things that are physical and measurable. As such, science cannot prove the non-existence of God, which is considered to be non-material and absolute. Unmeasurable means non-existent. If it has an effect on this universe in any way whatsoever we would see it or evidence that it exists. That is the bottom line. If god exists without doing anything then what is the point of him in the first place? Dawkins is a biologist and has not invoked any philosophical arguments that would address the issues about Being and God's existence. These questions are addressed in arguments using logic and metaphysics. Hart believes that God's existence can be proved through such methods. IMO, Hart is correct. If you have to rely on philosophical arguments then the cause is lost isn't it? Remember Judy and her EdFess obsession. She had to admit that the universe would be the same if her thiestic theory was removed from it. So what was it exactly, clever word play? Proves nothing. If it exists it can be measured. Conjecture isn't ever final proof for any branch of science. However, even if a logical proof can be justified, IMO it would not be enough to convince most people. They would prefer to see a physical proof that they can understand through the senses. But obviously this would not be possible. Therein lies the dilemma. A dilemma for god but not for me. Luckily if he is incapable of interacting with this universe he is incapable of punishing me for not believing. At the end of the day I just live without the idea but I understand where it comes from, I get the need for religion and have been there myself but you have be tough if you want the truth and apply a bit of rigour to everything in your head, I just think it's a bad explanation for experience that can be better accounted for psychologically than physically. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Just remember that Richard Dawkins agenda is to sell you his books and become a millionaire by proclaiming
[FairfieldLife] I park my Big Babboe here
I would follow in our moderator's noble I park my car here tradition, but I
don't even own a car these days. So here is our big carrier bike (pronounced
Big Babboo) parked on the canal outside our house this morning after I used
it to take Maya to school. You only see the top part of the bike because I had
to aim the iPhone at the sky to get some taste of the morning colors.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 10 MORE reasons why FFL is better, and the_peak sucks
From: jamesalan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
#26:
About 28-29 Jim-free days on FFL each month followed by 1-2 days when he comes
over here to act out, versus 28-29 days of Jim and 1-2 days of RR.
Perhaps we should begin referring to those 1-2 Jim days per month as PES
(Pre-Enlightenment Syndrome) or enlightenment on the rag. :-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
#23 No TM nostalgia on FFL, like what Maharishi said on what Rishikesh course
about Vyasa or Vasistha.
#24 No more updates about the latest crop circles and messages from aliens.
#25 No more messages about the next or latest appearances of the 'Masters'
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[FairfieldLife] Belief In God (not really related to Re: 10 reasons why FFL...)
Here's an interesting article, from a pastor who was brave enough to put his beliefs to the test. He wrote a Year Without God blog, and is now explaining some of the conclusions he came to. From the article (color highlighting mine):Q: This weekend you told NPR: “I don’t think that God exists.” Can you elaborate? A: I think the best way I can explain the conclusion I’ve come to — and conclusion is too strong a word for the provisional place I now stand and work from — is that the intellectual and emotional energy it takes to figure out how God fits into everything is far greater than dealing with reality as it presents itself to us. That probably sounds very nonrational, and I want people to know that I have read several dozen books and understand a good many of the arguments. I’d just say that the existence of God seems like an extra layer of complexity that isn’t necessary. The world makes more sense to me as it is, without postulating a divine being who is somehow in charge of things. Pastor Who Spent A Year Living Without God No Longer Believes | | | | | | | | | | | Pastor Who Spent A Year Living Without God No Longer...(RNS) Ryan Bell — the former Seventh-day Adventist pastor who spent 2014 living as an atheist — is ready for his big reveal. After chronicling the last 12 months on... | | | | View on www.huffingtonpost... | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 10 reasons why FFL is better, and the_peak sucks From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Hear hear. I will bet there are few takers. It is so much easier for believers in a God to just act offended and say, Hey, that's not what I believe...I don't believe in the invisible man in the sky. But really, if anyone actually *does* step up to the plate and try to define what their concept of God is, please deal with two questions. The first is, Does this concept of God you believe in have *sentience*, in that it is aware of your existence? The second is, If you answer Yes to that first question, does it have the ability to actually *affect* your life by changing things in it? My feeling is that no matter how else you characterize your concept of God, if your answer to these two questions is Yes then you're talking about a variant of the invisible man in the sky. If someone can prove me wrong on this, I look forward to them doing so. Buried in all this is a basic conundrum, related to ideas of god and ideas of consciousness: How does something that is alleged to be transcendent and not physical interact with the physical world or can direct the functioning of the physical world; how can it have anything to do with the concept of will? And in addition were these things considered to be physical, the whole mystical aspect of gods and awareness goes down the toilet; the mystique as it were, is flushed out. Yup, thanks for getting it. That's the issue I perceive -- belief in the descriptions of God most of us heard growing up as omniscient and omnipotent tend to fall apart if you examine them. It may be OK to theorize that there is some basic ground state to existence -- call it consciousness or whatever you want -- but it is quite another to claim that it is *conscious*. Yet almost all of the historical representations present Him/Her/It with near Santa-like magical powers (He knows when you've been sleeping, He knows when you're awake, He knows when you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness' sake.) HOW exactly is this God-state supposed to *perceive* the world? I've yet to hear a decent explanation, even a Woo Woo one. Even more challenging is the claim of omnipotence. HOW is this omnipresent God supposed to *interact* with the world to create miracles and mitigate karmas and perform all the wonderful miracles that have been attributed to Him? It seems to me that a similar set of questions plague those who believe in a God but do *not* claim that He/She/It is omniscient and omnipotent. Such people still talk in terms of God's will, as if the being they imagine is 1) capable of HAVING a will, 2) capable of being so attached to the Relative as to care whether that will is achieved or not, and 3) capable of having some sort of mechanism for propagating this supposed will in the first place. Could someone who believes that God has a will please explain to me HOW they believe this works? The invisible man in the sky is an attempt to create that mystique of ineffability while preserving the sense that this phantasm can interact with the world just as we seem to be able to do. It is an attempt to bridge two supposedly distinct modes of existence that
[FairfieldLife] (Repost) 2015 and Jewish holy days...
Google translation: astrologer Seppo Tanhua (FIN; Black-smith Dance-field): OUR MOST IMPORTANT YEAR 2015 Astrologer's point of view, we can now watching the eye of the storm for a while to jump to Pluto and Uranus square meters precise when making the last four in March and the bloody moon eclipse series end in August 2015. I predict that the world and life in general is going to happen major upheavals that force us to look at this world completely new perspective. The four bloody, full eclipse of the moon the Jewish holy days of the earlier mark in the history of the most biggest changes in the nation of Israel and that of the whole current of the Middle East. What is there now is going to happen, get astrology equal a question mark as to everyone else. The power to change one way or another, and human life is cheap currency, the religion under the guise of going to conquer the world. The world's three largest power by themselves, the US, Russia and China will all experience a major economic and perhaps also organized by natural disasters, the cosmic order of the Solar System is built again. I should not wonder, though currencies lose most of their value after Russia, Europe and America. Development will inevitably take the direction of the world debt becomes too high. For us, for individuals, these events appear as part of the world far away, but always touching to tragedies. Yet, the same radical reform is going to be true of every human life. None of us can not be solved easily from this cosmic turmoil, a time which is up to the US dollar cartoon since it is the 1930's including been in use. We are constantly moving into a new Golden era and it means increasing the balance and harmony of the soul, mind and body. I believe that astrology will play an important role in this transition phase the realization of all those who have accepted their guide in front of the daily solutions. There are many other ways and resources to their own balance and inner strength finding is, of course, exist. Better time is in any case already begun, and each of us has the same opportunity to find the divine wisdom and magical inner strength required for the modification of our own lives. When we see your cosmic Our pace of work, will be immediately life easier, richer and more enjoyable. There is no need to argue or quarrel about anything, if you do all of your solution with full self-confidence, and without a moment's remorse, no single decision. This energy löytämisprosessiin concentrate on this year-fit zodiac sign.
[FairfieldLife] God is on the ropes
Posted as a treat for those who have attempted to cast doubt upon Darwin's work lately, in an attempt to poison the well against those godless evolutionists. God is on the ropes: The brilliant new science that has creationists and the Christian right terrified | | | | | | | | | | | God is on the ropes: The brilliant new science that has ...A young MIT professor is finishing Darwin's task — and threatening to undo everything the wacky right holds dear | | | | View on www.salon.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | |
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My crazy dream of the atheist council
The bottom line, John, is that you are actively trying to demonize Richard Dawkins, seemingly *for no other reason than that he is an atheist and won't stop talking openly about his lack of belief the way you want him to*. That's what comes through your every post on this subject. You're trying to poison the well by portraying him as only in it for the money, such that no one pays attention to Dawkins' arguments. This strikes me as pretty lame, considering all you'd have to do to take the opposite approach and make a case for God's existence is...uh...make a case for God's existence. What your many, many, tirades against Dawkins seem to have in common is that you are trying to divert people's attention so that they don't notice that you CAN'T make a case for God's existence. For the record, I don't care what fairy tales you choose to believe in. What I'm pointing out is that you're reacting to mentions of Dawkins the exact same way TM cultists reacted to Judith Bourque's book about Maharishi. They didn't like her message -- that Maharishi had sex with her and with quite a few other women -- so they attempted to shoot the messenger, saying she was only in it for the money and doing anything they could to destroy her credibility in the eyes of fellow TM cultists. I see you attempting to do the same thing with Richard Dawson. And for the exact same reason -- you don't like his message, so you're trying to shoot the messenger. From: jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 11:22 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My crazy dream of the atheist council Salyavin, Dr. David Bentley Hart would agree with you that the new atheist movement started because of the 9/11 incident. And, Dawkins may or may not have started this movement. Nonetheless, it is apparent that he struck a nerve in many people around the world. And, undoubtedly, he's made a lot money through the sales of his book. But Hart states that Dawkins is making arguments, regarding atheism, that are weak and stupid as judged by the philosophers in academia. He states that Dawkins is not qualified to make such arguments. Specifically, the discussion of Darwins theory, whether it's justified or not, does not prove the existence or non-existence of God. Also, even if he discussed the current theories about quantum string theory or about the Big Bang, he would not be able to prove the non-existence of God. Why? Because science is limited to things that are physical and measurable. As such, science cannot prove the non-existence of God, which is considered to be non-material and absolute. Dawkins is a biologist and has not invoked any philosophical arguments that would address the issues about Being and God's existence. These questions are addressed in arguments using logic and metaphysics. Hart believes that God's existence can be proved through such methods. IMO, Hart is correct. However, even if a logical proof can be justified, IMO it would not be enough to convince most people. They would prefer to see a physical proof that they can understand through the senses. But obviously this would not be possible. Therein lies the dilemma. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Just remember that Richard Dawkins agenda is to sell you his books and become a millionaire by proclaiming atheism, when in fact he's actually an agnostic. I think this quibbling over terms is a way of shifting the argument onto something irrelevant to avoid what they really should be talking about. Which is that the human race continues to follow iron age faiths with their attendant cosmologies in the face of the overwhelming evidence that says they are in error as explanations. This is one of Richard Dawkin's agendas. He decided to start the debate after 9/11 simply as a way of making everyone think whether we should still be following fundamentalist creeds when a bit of thought and compassion means we could come up with better ways of running society. As holder of the Simonyi chair for the public understanding of science at Oxford University it was probably part of his job description. Some would say that he wasn't the best man for the job as all he's done is annoy sincere believers but Dawkins rightly sees all beliefs as memes that can change and grow, his hope was that a more logical meme would replace irrational religious views that end up with people flying planes into buildings. Or bringing children up to believe fairy tales. There's nothing wrong with making people think. Deeply questioning the actual point of religion was unthinkable before the God delusion came out. Everyone had to tip toe round the believers as though the mere suggestion they were in error was a greivious insult and their delicate sensibilities
[FairfieldLife] 2015 and Jewish holy days...
Google translation from Finnish; astrologer: Seppo Tanhua (Black-smith Dance-field): ja Tarkoititko: 02.01.2015 HISTORIAN TÄRKEIN VUOSI 2015 Astrologin näkökulmasta katsoen pääsemme nyt hetkeksi hyppäämään myrskyn silmään Pluton ja Uranuksen tehdessä viimeistä tarkkaa neliötä maaliskuussa ja neljän verisen kuunpimennyksen sarjan päättyessä elokuussa 2015. Veikkaan että maailmalla ja elämässä yleensä tulee tapahtumaan suuria mullistuksia, jotka pakottavat meidät katselemaan tätä maailmaa ihan uudesta vinkkelistä. Nuo neljä veristä, täydellistä kuunpimennystä juutalaisten pyhinä päivinä ovat aikaisemmassa historiassa merkinneet kaikkein suurimpia muutoksia Israelin kansalle ja sitä kautta koko nykyiselle Lähi-idälle. Mitä siellä nyt tulee tapahtumaan, jää astrologille yhtä suureksi kysymysmerkiksi kuin kaikille muillekin. Valta vaihtuu tavalla tai toisella ja ihmishenki on halpaa valuuttaa, kun uskonnon varjolla lähdetään valloittamaan maailmaa. Maailman kolme suurinta mahtia, USA, Venäjä ja Kiina tulevat kaikki kokemaan suuria taloudellisia ja ehkä myös luonnon järjestämiä katastrofeja, kun kosminen järjestys aurinkokunnassamme rakentuu uudelleen. En pitäisi ihmeenä, vaikka valuutat menettäisivät suurimman osan arvostaan Venäjän jälkeen Euroopassa ja Amerikassa. Kehitys vie vääjäämättä siihen suuntaan maailmanvelan kasvaessa liian suureksi. Meille yksityisille ihmisille nämä maailmantapahtumat näyttäytyvät osittain kaukaisina, mutta aina koskettavina tragedioina. Silti sama radikaali uudistuminen tulee olemaan totta jokaisen ihmisen elämässä. Yksikään meistä ei selviä helpolla tästä kosmisesta myllerryksestä, jonka ajankohta on jopa USA:n dollariin piirretty siitä lähtien kun se on 1930 luvulta lukien ollut käytössä. Olemme koko ajan siirtymässä uuteen Kultaiseen aikakauteen ja se tarkoittaa kasvavaa tasapainoa ja harmoniaa sielussa, mielessä ja kehossa. Uskon että astrologialla tulee olemaan tärkeä merkitys tämän siirtymävaiheen toteutumisessa kaikille niille, jotka sen ottavat oppaakseen päivittäisten ratkaisujen edessä. Monia muitakin keinoja ja apuvälineitä oman tasapainon ja sisäisen voiman löytymiseen on tietysti olemassa. Parempi aika on joka tapauksessa käynnistynyt jo ja jokaisella meistä on sama mahdollisuus löytää jumalainen viisaus ja taianomainen sisäinen voima oman elämämme vaatimiin muutostöihin. Löytäessämme oman kosmisen rytmimme, tulee elämästä välittömästi helpompaa, rikkaampaa ja nautinnollisempaa. Ei ole mitään tarvetta väitellä tai riidellä yhtään mistään, jos teet kaikki ratkaisusi täydellä itseluottamuksella ja vailla hetkenkään katumusta ainoastakaan päätöksestä. Tämän energian löytämisprosessiin keskityn tämän vuoden merkkikohtaisissa horoskoopeissa. 01/02/2015 OUR MOST IMPORTANT YEAR 2015 Astrologer's point of view, we can now watching the eye of the storm for a while to jump to Pluto and Uranus square meters precise when making the last four in March and the bloody moon eclipse series end in August 2015. I predict that the world and life in general is going to happen major upheavals that force us to look at this world completely new perspective. The four bloody, full eclipse of the moon the Jewish holy days of the earlier mark in the history of the most biggest changes in the nation of Israel and that of the whole current of the Middle East. What is there now is going to happen, get astrology equal a question mark as to everyone else. The power to change one way or another, and human life is cheap currency, the religion under the guise of going to conquer the world. The world's three largest power by themselves, the US, Russia and China will all experience a major economic and perhaps also organized by natural disasters, the cosmic order of the Solar System is built again. I should not wonder, though currencies lose most of their value after Russia, Europe and America. Development will inevitably take the direction of the world debt becomes too high. For us [Finns?], for individuals, these events appear as part of the world far away, but always touching to tragedies. Yet, the same radical reform is going to be true of every human life. None of us can not be solved easily from this cosmic turmoil, a time which is up to the US dollar cartoon since it is the 1930's including been in use. We are constantly moving into a new Golden era and it means increasing the balance and harmony of the soul, mind and body. I believe that astrology will play an important role in this transition phase the realization of all those who have accepted their guide in front of the daily solutions. There are many other ways and resources to their own balance and inner strength finding is, of course, exist. Better time is in any case already begun, and each of us has the same opportunity to find the divine wisdom and magical inner strength required for the modification of our own lives. When we see your cosmic Our
Re: [FairfieldLife] 10 reasons why FFL is better, and the_peak sucks
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : That's funny share. I'd say the three main topics on FFL these days, and maybe in this order, are: 1) Talk about the superiority of FFL to the_peak, with endless references to the moderator of the_peak Hi Steve, I'm not sure, you are putting this in the right context: The context is an almost constant harassment by some members of your group, trying to not only freely advertise it here, but also with a demand of closing FFL down or at least renaming it. In this context, some people gave reasons why they wouldn't join the group that involved Jim and his oneupmanship. Now go back to your mutual confirmation party, and be happy. 2) Endless discussion (by one member of FFL) about all the tv shows and movies he watches 3) And the 'ol standby: atheists vs. believers, often using the man in the sky meme in which to frame the argument, at least by the guy most attached to the discussion. Carry on fellas! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : Oh, maybe you meant spurs rather than spurns... From: aryavazhi no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] 10 reasons why FFL is better, and the_peak sucks ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sharelong60@... wrote : wrt #6 Spurn Definition https://dictionary.search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0LEVjAjVqlUtcUAbfQPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTBsa3ZzMnBvBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkAw--?p=spurn.sep= dictionary.search.yahoo.com v. verb To reject with disdain or contempt. To kick at or tread on disdainfully. To reject something contemptuously. n. noun A contemptuous rejection. A kick. Or perhaps that was a satire lost on me (-: No, just lack of proper English, take foster. From: aryavazhi no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 8:25 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 10 reasons why FFL is better, and the_peak sucks 10 reasons why FFL is better, and the_peak sucks The peak is moderated - somewhat arbitrary, while FFL knows no censorship. FFL allows you to hide your email address, so that you can stay really anonymous. Not possible in the peak. FFL exists much longer and has more members. Although only a few are active, it has many lurkers, and a great variety of posters showing up at different times. FFL is mirrored in the mail-archive.com. This makes sure also deleted posts are still available. Also easier to read on mobile devices. FFL is less restricted to the particular TMO mindset. It is more cosmopolitan. FFL spurns more creativity. It allows for diverse forms of satire, lost on some obviously. There is no oneupmanship on FFL. All those who have tried this in the past terribly failed. FFL archives are an inexhaustible treasure. Sometimes new topic names match those from long time ago, making them resurface in a new context. The moderators of FFL, Rick and Alex are great guys. There are less TBB's on FFL.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
so lets have those mythical smoking Governors come on here if they exist No chance they will announce themselves here. I don't know any former teachers in Colorado or Washington where it is currently legal to use. In most states it is still illegal and by many former TM teachers seen as a form of regressive indulgence. Disbelieve if it pleases you. Same issue goes for the Buddhists - 40+ years of practice, MBA's who managed in big Telecoms or lawyers in appellate practice. All regular meditators (Buddhist).
Re: [FairfieldLife] TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
I know quite a number of Buddhists. Almost all that I know smoke (and I'm
not talking about Marbo or Fidel's Habanos).
Previously, I considered this primarily a result of techniques that focused
primarily upon the surface level of experience, both sensory and mental. Of
course some of these techniques do give due consideration to mental silence.
Some even acknowledge this without consigning it to merely a few moments of
blank mind (the Kagyupa Mahamudra of Gampopa is an example).
A select few even describe the value of the mind in its natural condition
(prakriti manas) - active, alert but without a defined focus as the basis of
meditation. This is highlighted in the the instructions of the Ganga Mahamudra
by Tilopa and all the Dzochen instructions starting with founder Garab Dorje's
Three Statements That Strike The Crucial Point.
However, even given these considerations, I am still surprised at how many
Buddhists that I know smoke. But even more suprising, I know TM Governors who
were also trained by SSRS, who smoke - some almost daily.
My question is simple - why?
At this point I have already considered the usual reasons - 1. my experience
went flat, 2. transcendence is no big thing any more, 3. TM/Sidhi Kriya/Sahaj
is now boring.
What do the denizens here who do/did TM/Sidhi or Kriya/Sahaj proffer as an
explanation - anyone know?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
my pothead friends who all gave it about six months at most
does that mean that our dope smokin' buddies tried TM for 6 months, or that
they thought you would only do TM for 6 months?
From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 3:49 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote :
I know quite a number of Buddhists. Almost all that I know smoke (and I'm not
talking about Marbo or Fidel's Habanos).
Previously, I considered this primarily a result of techniques that focused
primarily upon the surface level of experience, both sensory and mental. Of
course some of these techniques do give due consideration to mental silence.
Some even acknowledge this without consigning it to merely a few moments of
blank mind (the Kagyupa Mahamudra of Gampopa is an example).
A select few even describe the value of the mind in its natural condition
(prakriti manas) - active, alert but without a defined focus as the basis of
meditation. This is highlighted in the the instructions of the Ganga Mahamudra
by Tilopa and all the Dzochen instructions starting with founder Garab Dorje's
Three Statements That Strike The Crucial Point.
However, even given these considerations, I am still surprised at how many
Buddhists that I know smoke. But even more suprising, I know TM Governors who
were also trained by SSRS, who smoke - some almost daily.
My question is simple - why?
At this point I have already considered the usual reasons - 1. my experience
went flat, 2. transcendence is no big thing any more, 3. TM/Sidhi Kriya/Sahaj
is now boring.
What do the denizens here who do/did TM/Sidhi or Kriya/Sahaj proffer as an
explanation - anyone know?
I was a heavy smoker when I learned TM but stopped within a month as I felt
much more in touch with my body in a way I'd not had before. The absurdity of
inhaling poisonous gas while every other fibre of my being was craving release
into a better world seemed pretty stupid and told me at an actual cellular
level (I imagined). I stubbed the last one out after a particularly nice prog
and never thought of it again.
I also smoked dope until the day I learned TM, that was a quicker decision. I
didn't like the way it interfered with my new found clarity and hate the smell
even now. But managed to avoid becoming a self-righteous bore with my pothead
friends who all gave it about six months at most.
I've also been on WPA's in eastern Europe and a lot of people there smoked.
Some of them used to nip out during the sutras and have a quick ciggie. It
really stank the place out when they came back. I think there's a cultural
expectation to smoke over there that doesn't get overridden.
I don't know anyone in the TMO in the UK who smokes but David Lynch is a
hardcore addict, maybe it makes some people more sensitive than others? Maybe
I'm just really enlightened. Joke.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
they didn't want to tell you the real reason which is that they are a bunch of
lazy fakers who don't want to work for a living and just want to sit around all
day smokin' dope and swapping sleight of hand tricks to fool the ignorant
villagers to give them food, money and look the other way while the fakers slip
out the back with their daughters.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
The only reason I ever got from being in India is that it was a part of
some paths sadhana. I didn't ask what they thought they got out of it. Maybe
it just calms them more and provides deeper experiences. But those who are a
bit kapha wouldn't need that.
On 01/04/2015 04:15 PM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Smoke is the current euphemism. But you didn't proffer an answer or
explanation to the question.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : Then you were proly smoking a chara. Yes, chara Charas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charas Charas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charas Charas is the name given to a hashish form of cannabis which is handmade in India, Pakistan, Nepal and Jamaica. It is made from the resin of the cannabis pla... View on en.wikipedia.org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charas Preview by Yahoo However, my question is not about some Shaiva's getting stoned and calling it Shiva's revelation. Rather, my question centers around it value for meditators - TM and Buddhist. To restate: I am still surprised at how many Buddhists that I know smoke. But even more suprising, I know TM Governors who were also trained by SSRS, who smoke - some almost daily. My question is simple - why? I have a friend in the US, whom I see only occasionally, he is not a TM meditator, maybe he was at a time, but he is definitly a strong meditator over many years, I think he is with Shivabala Yogi, and he swears that combining good quality weed with meditation, enhances his experience strongly. He does it with friends, in a sort of ceremonial way, just before meditation. And he emphazises that the quality of the weed matters a lot. At this point I have already considered the usual reasons - 1. my experience went flat, 2. transcendence is no big thing any more, 3. TM/Sidhi Kriya/Sahaj is now boring. What do the denizens here who do/did TM/Sidhi or Kriya/Sahaj proffer as an explanation - anyone know?
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
Bari2 - so naive. I know one living right in Fairfield, a former TM teacher, been to India, trained with SSRS (although not a Kriya teacher) who smokes. Says meditation is flat, featureless and boring. Transcendence just another ordinary experience. Says SSRS's hollow and empty meditations just put them to sleep. They use the same old supply chain - friends knowing other friends. All the blah blah about FF being a spiritual capital doesn't stop a whole bunch of people in the meditating community from doing smoke. It certainly is not a sacrament - even if you are an Injun make-believing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
this is a surprise to me, I never knew any TM teachers, even ex-TM teachers who
smoked dope. I think its because TM just doesn't work as advertised and they
wanted something a bit more luscious to liven their experiences.
One of the ironies of the TMO is the fact that pot use has always been present
at MIU/MUM, yeah that's right Feste, ALWAYS been there! it was present during
the 80's - I knew one staffer and one student who were in business together
selling pot right on campus. One of 'em eventually got busted (the student) and
MUM students are still smokin' dope, even tho Big Bopper Bevan has crowed for
years about the lack of drug problem on campus.
From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 8:34 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
Once again let's go back to the original question -
I know TM teachers who smoke. Considering their long-time experience doing
TM/Sidhi or Kriya/Sahaj techniques (or both), why do they feel the need to do
some smoke?
Answers I have heard:
1. my meditation experience went flat.
2. transcendence is no big thing any more.
3. TM/Sidhi Kriya/Sahaj is now boring.
4. Barry sez: chemical alteration of attention is faster (and easier ???) than
meditation.
Regardless of the antiquity of using smoke, I'm interested in why seasoned and
experienced meditation teachers would tale it up after years of practice
(including various degrees of long rounding).
Once again, anyone here willing to take up the question? #yiv6614818258
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
Since most of us are not aware of TM teachers getting bombed, why don't you
just ask the TM teachers who are also dope smokers why they want to be
hop-heads?
From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 9:08 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
While some Shaivas do it because they totally buy the mythology of Shiva
liking bhang, not all Shaivas smoke charas or drink bhang. No doubt those sadhu
that do it have their own declarations about their bhang Litemint.
However, the question is about TM teachers now doing smoke and the reason why.
Can someone here address this? Or doesn't anyone have a clue? #yiv3496934488
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
I love it! More bs and hypocrisy of the TM Movement exposed.
What do these TM'ers and former TM'ers say about Marshy's comparison of
meditating and smoking dope to an elephant who takes a bath in the river and
then slops mud all over itself afterwards. And before anyone mentions it, I
know the elephants coat the skin to protect it from insects etc. I am talking
about M's analogy.
From: emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 8:44 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
Bari2 - so naive.
I know one living right in Fairfield, a former TM teacher, been to India,
trained with SSRS (although not a Kriya teacher) who smokes.
Says meditation is flat, featureless and boring. Transcendence just another
ordinary experience. Says SSRS's hollow and empty meditations just put them to
sleep.
They use the same old supply chain - friends knowing other friends. All the
blah blah about FF being a spiritual capital doesn't stop a whole bunch of
people in the meditating community from doing smoke.
It certainly is not a sacrament - even if you are an Injun make-believing.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
Hear here. I'm a *former* governor. I was forced into retirement a few years
ago due to and advanced state of Ankylosing Spondylitis, painful swelling of
the spine causing the fusion of the vertebrae. Nothing my doctors prescribed
could elliminate the pain. Six months of hydracodone was almost as bad as the
pain itself. I stopped the hydro and just dealt with it. Out of despiration, I
tried some pot, after hearing about all this medical marijuana BS and I'll be
damned,if it didn work! At first, it didn't do that much for the actual pain
but it took my mind off of it and allowed me to enjoy life without being
gripped by the pain. It kind of shoved it in a closet. I also noticed , at
first, that I experienced more witnessing of activity. I wasn't stoned,
everything else about me was. Kind of enjoyable. Anyway, I used it for a few
months and eventually I became pain free and don't feel any need for it today.
I definately believe Pot has some medical value to it. I think the trick might
be to know when to give it up and move on with your life. For TMers, it just
might shift their awareness enough to allow them to perceive what they have
been cultivating all along but were just not aware of. Like getting off of the
moving train and jumping back on.
From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
so lets have those mythical smoking Governors come on here if they exist
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
why would Governors have to smoke pot for osteoarthritis?
If they are Governors their health should be getting better and better with
every dip into the Absolute.
If they do have problems why would they not use the fabulous scientifically
validated health care system of Maharishi Ayurveda
From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 10:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
so lets have those mythical smoking Governors come on here if they exist
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
Great post. I really loved I also noticed , at first, that I experienced more
witnessing of activity. I wasn't stoned, everything else about me was. Kind of
enjoyable. That just cracks me up.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
Hear here. I'm a *former* governor. I was forced into retirement a few
years ago due to and advanced state of Ankylosing Spondylitis, painful swelling
of the spine causing the fusion of the vertebrae. Nothing my doctors prescribed
could elliminate the pain. Six months of hydracodone was almost as bad as the
pain itself. I stopped the hydro and just dealt with it. Out of despiration, I
tried some pot, after hearing about all this medical marijuana BS and I'll be
damned,if it didn work! At first, it didn't do that much for the actual pain
but it took my mind off of it and allowed me to enjoy life without being
gripped by the pain. It kind of shoved it in a closet. I also noticed , at
first, that I experienced more witnessing of activity. I wasn't stoned,
everything else about me was. Kind of enjoyable. Anyway, I used it for a few
months and eventually I became pain free and don't feel any need for it today.
I definately believe Pot has some medical value to it. I think the trick might
be to know when to give it up and move on with your life. For TMers, it just
might shift their awareness enough to allow them to perceive what they have
been cultivating all along but were just not aware of. Like getting off of the
moving train and jumping back on.
From: sri...@ymail.com sri...@ymail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 7:27 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
so lets have those mythical smoking Governors come on here if they exist
and say if they are really or if it about their osteoarthritis pain or what
have you.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What I ate
A shocking confession, Alex. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Brussels sprouts and yellow bell pepper, sauteed in coconut oil with coarsely chopped fresh ginger. Then I added diced chicken thigh and dried sour cherries and cooked until chicken was done but still tender. I didn't add enough salt during cooking (Real Salt from Redmond Utah), so I sprinkled on some Indian black salt and a touch of a dried hot pepper mix called Volcano Dust 2. I love black salt; Petra hates it, so I'm only allowed to use it in my room because any room it's used in stinks like rotten eggs. I just lit a stick of incense, and I'll let it burn for a few minutes before putting it out. Speaking of Petra, we've been married 27 years, and yesterday, while sitting around the gas fireplace in the living room, we both learned something about each other that neither of us knew before: both of us absolutely despise poetry.
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I ate
Great food porn, thanks for posting this Alex. I am also a black salt fan. It is a secret ingredient for western cooking that is unique and delicious. I am not such a fan of the expensive designer salts. They are just salt and dirt! I guess we could try to use dirt and some of it might be good. I just don't need any in my salt. I wanted to thank you for turning me on to red palm oil. You were the first person I heard about it from. I just got some from Trader Joes and it is delicious. I have been using it for grilled cheese sandwiches and it adds something great. I like coconut oil for sweet things only. But this seems to be more versatile. Although you may despise poetry when it is presented as such you seem to have affinity for that language form when you discuss internal states. Figurative language has its uses outside the context of poetry. Now if I could only convert all the wanna be rappers in my inner city schools to buy into this POV! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Brussels sprouts and yellow bell pepper, sauteed in coconut oil with coarsely chopped fresh ginger. Then I added diced chicken thigh and dried sour cherries and cooked until chicken was done but still tender. I didn't add enough salt during cooking (Real Salt from Redmond Utah), so I sprinkled on some Indian black salt and a touch of a dried hot pepper mix called Volcano Dust 2. I love black salt; Petra hates it, so I'm only allowed to use it in my room because any room it's used in stinks like rotten eggs. I just lit a stick of incense, and I'll let it burn for a few minutes before putting it out. Speaking of Petra, we've been married 27 years, and yesterday, while sitting around the gas fireplace in the living room, we both learned something about each other that neither of us knew before: both of us absolutely despise poetry.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: What I ate
Can't say as I'm all that fond of fiction, either, which made four years of prep school English class pretty miserable, with all that classic literature. But, looking back, the only thing from my years at St. George's that has been of any practical use in my life is the ability to write well, which I learned in English class. Go figure. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : A shocking confession, Alex. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Brussels sprouts and yellow bell pepper, sauteed in coconut oil with coarsely chopped fresh ginger. Then I added diced chicken thigh and dried sour cherries and cooked until chicken was done but still tender. I didn't add enough salt during cooking (Real Salt from Redmond Utah), so I sprinkled on some Indian black salt and a touch of a dried hot pepper mix called Volcano Dust 2. I love black salt; Petra hates it, so I'm only allowed to use it in my room because any room it's used in stinks like rotten eggs. I just lit a stick of incense, and I'll let it burn for a few minutes before putting it out. Speaking of Petra, we've been married 27 years, and yesterday, while sitting around the gas fireplace in the living room, we both learned something about each other that neither of us knew before: both of us absolutely despise poetry.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I ate
A trumpet player I worked with in high school taught English in high school. He had a method of teaching anyone how to write poetry. When I switched schools I had him as a teacher. I not only learned how to write poetry but fiction as well. My main use of the poetry writing was of course for writing song lyrics. As for rap, to listen to it's roots, early beat poetry. There's got to be some videos of Dizzy Gillespie reciting some of his beat poetry back in the 1940s. On 01/05/2015 08:47 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Great food porn, thanks for posting this Alex. I am also a black salt fan. It is a secret ingredient for western cooking that is unique and delicious. I am not such a fan of the expensive designer salts. They are just salt and dirt! I guess we could try to use dirt and some of it might be good. I just don't need any in my salt. I wanted to thank you for turning me on to red palm oil. You were the first person I heard about it from. I just got some from Trader Joes and it is delicious. I have been using it for grilled cheese sandwiches and it adds something great. I like coconut oil for sweet things only. But this seems to be more versatile. Although you may despise poetry when it is presented as such you seem to have affinity for that language form when you discuss internal states. Figurative language has its uses outside the context of poetry. Now if I could only convert all the wanna be rappers in my inner city schools to buy into this POV! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Brussels sprouts and yellow bell pepper, sauteed in coconut oil with coarsely chopped fresh ginger. Then I added diced chicken thigh and dried sour cherries and cooked until chicken was done but still tender. I didn't add enough salt during cooking (Real Salt from Redmond Utah), so I sprinkled on some Indian black salt and a touch of a dried hot pepper mix called Volcano Dust 2. I love black salt; Petra hates it, so I'm only allowed to use it in my room because any room it's used in stinks like rotten eggs. I just lit a stick of incense, and I'll let it burn for a few minutes before putting it out. Speaking of Petra, we've been married 27 years, and yesterday, while sitting around the gas fireplace in the living room, we both learned something about each other that neither of us knew before: both of us absolutely despise poetry.
Re: [FairfieldLife] What I ate
Is this a test drive for Buddha in the Kitchen? :-D On 01/05/2015 08:03 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Brussels sprouts and yellow bell pepper, sauteed in coconut oil with coarsely chopped fresh ginger. Then I added diced chicken thigh and dried sour cherries and cooked until chicken was done but still tender. I didn't add enough salt during cooking (Real Salt from Redmond Utah), so I sprinkled on some Indian black salt and a touch of a dried hot pepper mix called Volcano Dust 2. I love black salt; Petra hates it, so I'm only allowed to use it in my room because any room it's used in stinks like rotten eggs. I just lit a stick of incense, and I'll let it burn for a few minutes before putting it out. Speaking of Petra, we've been married 27 years, and yesterday, while sitting around the gas fireplace in the living room, we both learned something about each other that neither of us knew before: both of us absolutely despise poetry.
Re: [FairfieldLife] What I ate
Y'all were pining away for willytex, so I figured I'd fill in for him, posting all the fascinating minutiae from my life in Fairfield. Seems I've failed, though, as the stuff I'm posting seems to actually be of some interest. Go figure! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote : Is this a test drive for Buddha in the Kitchen? :-D On 01/05/2015 08:03 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com mailto:j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Brussels sprouts and yellow bell pepper, sauteed in coconut oil with coarsely chopped fresh ginger. Then I added diced chicken thigh and dried sour cherries and cooked until chicken was done but still tender. I didn't add enough salt during cooking (Real Salt from Redmond Utah), so I sprinkled on some Indian black salt and a touch of a dried hot pepper mix called Volcano Dust 2. I love black salt; Petra hates it, so I'm only allowed to use it in my room because any room it's used in stinks like rotten eggs. I just lit a stick of incense, and I'll let it burn for a few minutes before putting it out. Speaking of Petra, we've been married 27 years, and yesterday, while sitting around the gas fireplace in the living room, we both learned something about each other that neither of us knew before: both of us absolutely despise poetry.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
You posted as if you were speaking of *active* TM teachers. Here you mention a *former* TM teacher. There are lots of those around (including myself) and I could care less what they do and whether they smoke. In fact I could care less if the *active* teachers smoke. I gave that up way back in 1973 several months before I learned TM. That after a production meeting where people got stoned to plan a new TV show and all that happened was a bunch of stupid ideas. For me, it was no longer increasing any creativity. FYI, in India they refer to ganja as a sacrament for some paths. If these former teachers find meditation boring try something different. In fact find a teacher who will give them a guru mantra. Those definitely are *not *boring. On 01/05/2015 05:44 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bari2 - so naive. I know one living right in Fairfield, a former TM teacher, been to India, trained with SSRS (although not a Kriya teacher) who smokes. Says meditation is flat, featureless and boring. Transcendence just another ordinary experience. Says SSRS's hollow and empty meditations just put them to sleep. They use the same old supply chain - friends knowing other friends. All the blah blah about FF being a spiritual capital doesn't stop a whole bunch of people in the meditating community from doing smoke. It certainly is not a sacrament - even if you are an Injun make-believing.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I ate
I am hip to the beat poets connection to rap, and recently turned on some hip hop performer friends to the connection. It is less beat centric than most modern rap. I've been listening to a lot of old school rappers on my Sirius radio and I think their language was more figurative and more clever than most popular rap today. They had more limited beats back then, but used other musical elements and other instruments to make up for it. The evolution of this music fascinates me. Of course bridging the blues to rap is essential for my teaching gig. I have them lay down a beat and I improvise over it. Very often a young person will step up and lay down some free form rap that is really good. I heard a presentation from a Scientist at NIH about putting a free form poet in an MRI. He found out that the inhibitory part of his brain switched off when he did his thing. This has profound implications for education. We are terrifying kids with tests activating their inhibitory brain area with endless rules of conduct and then expecting them to be creative! Here is the study. The scientist is a Jazz musician which is where he got his interest in the neurology of improvisation. Neural Correlates of Lyrical Improvisation: An fMRI Study of Freestyle Rap : Scientific Reports : Nature Publishing Group http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121115/srep00834/full/srep00834.html Neural Correlates of Lyrical Improvisation: An fMRI Study of Freestyle Rap : Scientific Reports : Na... http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121115/srep00834/full/srep00834.html The neural correlates of creativity are poorly understood. Freestyle rap provides a unique opportunity to study spontaneous lyrical improvisation, a multidimensional form of creativity at the interface of music and language. Here we use functional magnetic resonance im... View on www.nature.com http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121115/srep00834/full/srep00834.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : A trumpet player I worked with in high school taught English in high school. He had a method of teaching anyone how to write poetry. When I switched schools I had him as a teacher. I not only learned how to write poetry but fiction as well. My main use of the poetry writing was of course for writing song lyrics. As for rap, to listen to it's roots, early beat poetry. There's got to be some videos of Dizzy Gillespie reciting some of his beat poetry back in the 1940s. On 01/05/2015 08:47 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Great food porn, thanks for posting this Alex. I am also a black salt fan. It is a secret ingredient for western cooking that is unique and delicious. I am not such a fan of the expensive designer salts. They are just salt and dirt! I guess we could try to use dirt and some of it might be good. I just don't need any in my salt. I wanted to thank you for turning me on to red palm oil. You were the first person I heard about it from. I just got some from Trader Joes and it is delicious. I have been using it for grilled cheese sandwiches and it adds something great. I like coconut oil for sweet things only. But this seems to be more versatile. Although you may despise poetry when it is presented as such you seem to have affinity for that language form when you discuss internal states. Figurative language has its uses outside the context of poetry. Now if I could only convert all the wanna be rappers in my inner city schools to buy into this POV! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Brussels sprouts and yellow bell pepper, sauteed in coconut oil with coarsely chopped fresh ginger. Then I added diced chicken thigh and dried sour cherries and cooked until chicken was done but still tender. I didn't add enough salt during cooking (Real Salt from Redmond Utah), so I sprinkled on some Indian black salt and a touch of a dried hot pepper mix called Volcano Dust 2. I love black salt; Petra hates it, so I'm only allowed to use it in my room because any room it's used in stinks like rotten eggs. I just lit a stick of incense, and I'll let it burn for a few minutes before putting it out. Speaking of Petra, we've been married 27 years, and yesterday, while sitting around the gas fireplace in the living room, we both learned something about each other that neither of us knew before: both of us absolutely despise poetry.
[FairfieldLife] Re: (Repost) 2015 and Jewish holy days...
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
No, Grasshopper, in fact once you are initiated they may tell you how the guru mantra is selected. :-D On 01/05/2015 01:19 PM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: thus the gurus maintain the secrecy smoke screen, giving them license to screw people any which way they want to. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, January 5, 2015 1:49 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke You won't find the real meaning of a guru mantra on the Internet. That's for initiates. ;-) On 01/05/2015 10:24 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com mailto:mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Though the word Gurumantra (note) http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/31_gurumantra.html# contains the word ‘mantra’, it mostly implies to which Name of God a disciple should chant. One should chant the Name recommended by the Guru rather than chanting the Name of one’s favourite Deity for the following reasons : 1. One does not understand which Name is best suited for one’s own spiritual progress. Only the Guru is capable of providing this guidance. 2. Chanting the Name of the favourite Deity http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/cid_5.html helps only to raise one’s sattvikta. The Gurumantra (note) http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/31_gurumantra.html# however, can take one to the nirgun state. 3. The Gurumantra (note) http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/31_gurumantra.html# does not contain mere letters, but has spiritual knowledge, Chaitanya and the Guru’s blessings. Hence, spiritual progress is faster. 4. Due to faith in the Guru, one chants the Gurumantra (note) http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/31_gurumantra.html# with greater faith, than chanting the mantra (note) http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/31_gurumantra.html# decided upon by oneself. Also, when remembering the Guru, one tends to chant the Name given by Him and thus chanting increases. 5. When one chants the Name of the favourite Deity, at least some amount of ego accompanies it. On the contrary, when chanting the Name recommended by the Guru http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/27_guru.html, there is no ego. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net mailto:noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, January 5, 2015 12:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke You posted as if you were speaking of *active* TM teachers. Here you mention a *former* TM teacher. There are lots of those around (including myself) and I could care less what they do and whether they smoke. In fact I could care less if the *active* teachers smoke. I gave that up way back in 1973 several months before I learned TM. That after a production meeting where people got stoned to plan a new TV show and all that happened was a bunch of stupid ideas. For me, it was no longer increasing any creativity. FYI, in India they refer to ganja as a sacrament for some paths. If these former teachers find meditation boring try something different. In fact find a teacher who will give them a guru mantra. Those definitely are *not *boring. On 01/05/2015 05:44 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com mailto:emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bari2 - so naive. I know one living right in Fairfield, a former TM teacher, been to India, trained with SSRS (although not a Kriya teacher) who smokes. Says meditation is flat, featureless and boring. Transcendence just another ordinary experience. Says SSRS's hollow and empty meditations just put them to sleep. They use the same old supply chain - friends knowing other friends. All the blah blah about FF being a spiritual capital doesn't stop a whole bunch of people in the meditating community from doing smoke. It certainly is not a sacrament - even if you are an Injun make-believing.
[FairfieldLife] mindfulness, TM, etc.
Efrim Zymbalist, Jr. (actor) died in 2014; an early follower of MMY. Note: as shown on 60 minutes, there's been a recent upsurge in mindfulness meditation on the East Coast. This is an unintended consequence of the high price of TM. CNN's Anderson Cooper says that mindfulness has changed his life for the better. ... Recent article in Sci Am on the physiology of meditation (a vast improvement over Wallace's 1972 article; since the Sci Am article shows which parts of the brain are activated with different types of mental activity. ... Basically, TM, mindfulness and much of Buddhist meditation are in the same category (imo); ...i.e. the default part of the brain of restful alertness. ... Unfortunately, such forms of meditation are not geared toward opening the 3rd eye.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
Thanks for linking Tolstoy's article. Although I accept the gist of what he's claiming I have a few caveats: His warnings against smoking tobacco seem overblown. Plenty of industrious, virtuous individuals enjoyed a pipe: Spinoza, Freud, Einstein, . . . In the same manner the seeing, spiritual being, whose manifestation we commonly call conscience, always points with one end towards right and with the other towards wrong, and we do not notice it while we follow the course it shows: the course from wrong to right. But one need only do something contrary to the indication of conscience to become aware of this spiritual being, which then shows how the animal activity has diverged from the direction indicated by conscience. I'd like to believe this but is it as self-evident as Tolstoy claims? When Crassus defeated Spartacus he crucified 6,000 prisoners along the Appian Way from Rome to Capua. Crassus was hailed as a hero by the grateful citizens of Rome. I doubt they lost much sleep owing to pangs of conscience. For people of dull, limited moral feeling, the external diversions [games, for example] are often quite sufficient to enable them not to perceive the indications conscience gives of the wrongness of their lives. But for morally sensitive people those means are often insufficient [so they use drink/drugs]. That's interesting. Recent studies have shown that it is indeed the *more intelligent* people who are more likely to use drugs (because more sensitive? more alienated?) than the stupid people, as is often assumed. One researcher who took a long-term look at chronic drug users to see what traumas, psychological weaknesses and life misadventures had led them to their fate finally concluded that in his (her?) view drug users were simple more selfish and egocentric than the majority who didn't use drugs. That matches my own sense of people I've known who did/didn't use drugs. It doesn't conflict with Tolstoy's observations.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Winter Tech 101
Are they wireless? On 01/05/2015 10:00 AM, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: They're just electrically heated rubber mats. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote : */So how do they work?/* *From:* j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, January 5, 2015 6:10 PM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Winter Tech 101 Snow melt mats: http://alex.natel.net/misc/snow_melt_mat.jpg
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[FairfieldLife] Re: God is on the ropes
From the article: In essence, he’s saying, life itself evolved out of simpler non-living systems. We know that already - the devil is in the details. I'll wait for those before getting too excited. And I'll be waiting for a very long time indeed before scientists explain awareness. And In any nontrivial system with lots of energy flowing through it, you are almost certain to find order arising somewhere in the system. If order from disorder is supposed to violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics, why is it ubiquitous in nature? Because the Second Law was only ever a (useful) idealisation of the interactions between individual particles and their collective motions. Excellent for providing a model for heat exchange in, for example, steam engines. Life is an emergent property at a higher level of complexity; it is still a puzzle; and can't be reduced to simple thermodynamics. Nothing new here. People have been saying it for yonks. (On a side note: nuclear power offers the most efficient way of coping with the consequences of the 2nd law and maximising energy conservation.)
[FairfieldLife] Democratizing Creation
Wanna make your own creatures? http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Controversial-DNA-startup-wants-to-let-customers-5992426.php
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: mindfulness, TM, etc.
if you believe in the third eye that is - the entire chakra system may be one
big con, or hallucination.
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Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 9:59 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: mindfulness, TM, etc.
I am curious, why are forms of meditation not geared to opening the 3rd eye
'unfortunate'. What is the 3rd eye going to get you in terms of enlightenment?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero@... wrote :
Efrim Zymbalist, Jr. (actor) died in 2014; an early follower of MMY.
Note: as shown on 60 minutes, there's been a recent upsurge in mindfulness
meditation on the East Coast.This is an unintended consequence of the high
price of TM. CNN's Anderson Cooper says that mindfulness has changed his life
for the betterRecent article in Sci Am on the physiology of meditation (a
vast improvement over Wallace's 1972 article; since the Sci Am article shows
which parts of the brain are activated with different types of mental
activityBasically, TM, mindfulness and much of Buddhist meditation are in
the same category (imo); ...i.e. the default part of the brain of restful
alertnessUnfortunately, such forms of meditation are not geared toward
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[FairfieldLife] Re: mindfulness, TM, etc.
I am curious, why are forms of meditation not geared to opening the 3rd eye 'unfortunate'. What is the 3rd eye going to get you in terms of enlightenment? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, yifuxero@... wrote : Efrim Zymbalist, Jr. (actor) died in 2014; an early follower of MMY. Note: as shown on 60 minutes, there's been a recent upsurge in mindfulness meditation on the East Coast. This is an unintended consequence of the high price of TM. CNN's Anderson Cooper says that mindfulness has changed his life for the better. ... Recent article in Sci Am on the physiology of meditation (a vast improvement over Wallace's 1972 article; since the Sci Am article shows which parts of the brain are activated with different types of mental activity. ... Basically, TM, mindfulness and much of Buddhist meditation are in the same category (imo); ...i.e. the default part of the brain of restful alertness. ... Unfortunately, such forms of meditation are not geared toward opening the 3rd eye.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 10 MORE reasons why FFL is better, and the_peak sucks
#26: About 28-29 Jim-free days on FFL each month followed by 1-2 days when he comes over here to act out, versus 28-29 days of Jim and 1-2 days of RR. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : #23 No TM nostalgia on FFL, like what Maharishi said on what Rishikesh course about Vyasa or Vasistha. #24 No more updates about the latest crop circles and messages from aliens. #25 No more messages about the next or latest appearances of the 'Masters'
[FairfieldLife] Re: 10 MORE reasons why FFL is better, and the_peak sucks
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : #23 No TM nostalgia on FFL, like what Maharishi said on what Rishikesh course about Vyasa or Vasistha. #24 No more updates about the latest crop circles and messages from aliens. #25 No more messages about the next or latest appearances of the 'Masters'
[FairfieldLife] Re: 10 MORE reasons why FFL is better, and the_peak sucks
[FairfieldLife] Re: 10 MORE reasons why FFL is better, and the_peak sucks
#26: About 28-29 Jim-free days on FFL each month followed by 1-2 days when he comes over here to act out, versus 28-29 days of Jim and 2-3 days of RR. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : #23 No TM nostalgia on FFL, like what Maharishi said on what Rishikesh course about Vyasa or Vasistha. #24 No more updates about the latest crop circles and messages from aliens. #25 No more messages about the next or latest appearances of the 'Masters'
Re: [FairfieldLife] Winter Tech 101
So how do they work?
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FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 6:10 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Winter Tech 101
Snow melt mats:
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What I ate
The software company I worked at emphasized employees being creative but for my developers I had to do the opposite. Many were musicians or writers too and what was needed was for them to finish what they had already created. However enhanced creativity for the other employees was a good idea because they were beginning to want to be like robots. This is actually something that I found a UC professor of robotics noticing that people thought the way to be was more like a machine. This disturbed him too. I call such robotic people hubots. On 01/05/2015 09:28 AM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I am hip to the beat poets connection to rap, and recently turned on some hip hop performer friends to the connection. It is less beat centric than most modern rap. I've been listening to a lot of old school rappers on my Sirius radio and I think their language was more figurative and more clever than most popular rap today. They had more limited beats back then, but used other musical elements and other instruments to make up for it. The evolution of this music fascinates me. Of course bridging the blues to rap is essential for my teaching gig. I have them lay down a beat and I improvise over it. Very often a young person will step up and lay down some free form rap that is really good. I heard a presentation from a Scientist at NIH about putting a free form poet in an MRI. He found out that the inhibitory part of his brain switched off when he did his thing. This has profound implications for education. We are terrifying kids with tests activating their inhibitory brain area with endless rules of conduct and then expecting them to be creative! Here is the study. The scientist is a Jazz musician which is where he got his interest in the neurology of improvisation. Neural Correlates of Lyrical Improvisation: An fMRI Study of Freestyle Rap : Scientific Reports : Nature Publishing Group http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121115/srep00834/full/srep00834.html Neural Correlates of Lyrical Improvisation: An fMRI Study of Freestyle Rap : Scientific Reports : Na... http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121115/srep00834/full/srep00834.html The neural correlates of creativity are poorly understood. Freestyle rap provides a unique opportunity to study spontaneous lyrical improvisation, a multidimensional form of creativity at the interface of music and language. Here we use functional magnetic resonance im... View on www.nature.com http://www.nature.com/srep/2012/121115/srep00834/full/srep00834.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : A trumpet player I worked with in high school taught English in high school. He had a method of teaching anyone how to write poetry. When I switched schools I had him as a teacher. I not only learned how to write poetry but fiction as well. My main use of the poetry writing was of course for writing song lyrics. As for rap, to listen to it's roots, early beat poetry. There's got to be some videos of Dizzy Gillespie reciting some of his beat poetry back in the 1940s. On 01/05/2015 08:47 AM, curtisdeltablues@... mailto:curtisdeltablues@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Great food porn, thanks for posting this Alex. I am also a black salt fan. It is a secret ingredient for western cooking that is unique and delicious. I am not such a fan of the expensive designer salts. They are just salt and dirt! I guess we could try to use dirt and some of it might be good. I just don't need any in my salt. I wanted to thank you for turning me on to red palm oil. You were the first person I heard about it from. I just got some from Trader Joes and it is delicious. I have been using it for grilled cheese sandwiches and it adds something great. I like coconut oil for sweet things only. But this seems to be more versatile. Although you may despise poetry when it is presented as such you seem to have affinity for that language form when you discuss internal states. Figurative language has its uses outside the context of poetry. Now if I could only convert all the wanna be rappers in my inner city schools to buy into this POV! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, j_alexander_stanley@... mailto:j_alexander_stanley@... wrote : Brussels sprouts and yellow bell pepper, sauteed in coconut oil with coarsely chopped fresh ginger. Then I added diced chicken thigh and dried sour cherries and cooked until chicken was done but still tender. I didn't add enough salt during cooking (Real Salt from Redmond Utah), so I sprinkled on some Indian black salt and a touch of a dried hot pepper mix called Volcano Dust 2. I love black salt; Petra hates it, so I'm only allowed to use it in my room because any room it's used in stinks like rotten eggs. I
Re: [FairfieldLife] Winter Tech 101
They're just electrically heated rubber mats. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote : So how do they work? From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 6:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Winter Tech 101 Snow melt mats:
Re: [FairfieldLife] Winter Tech 101
Bummer. I was hoping they were one of those.magical Vedic things that only the brothers of Rajas can get their hands on, and that it was powered by chanting. :-) On Jan 5, 2015, at 19:00, j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: They're just electrically heated rubber mats. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoi...@yahoo.com wrote : So how do they work? From: j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 6:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Winter Tech 101 Snow melt mats:
[FairfieldLife] What I Ate II
1 human head pepper salt tarragon Baked slow in low oven at 285 degrees F. for 10 hours. Baste with butter occasionally during baking. Serve with dark beer. Work cited: Perencanaan Meal Keluarga (Family Meal Planning) by Cahaya, Celamat Datang Press, Sulaswesi (Celebes), Indonesia 1932 [by the way Cahaya is Indonesian for 'light']
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
Though the word Guru mantra (note) contains the word ‘mantra’, it mostly
implies to which Name of God a disciple should chant. One should chant the Name
recommended by the Guru rather than chanting the Name of one’s favourite Deity
for the following reasons : 1. One does not understand which Name is best
suited for one’s own spiritual progress. Only the Guru is capable of providing
this guidance. 2. Chanting the Name of the favourite Deity helps only to raise
one’s sattvikta. The Guru mantra (note) however, can take one to the nirgun
state. 3. The Guru mantra (note) does not contain mere letters, but has
spiritual knowledge, Chaitanya and the Guru’s blessings. Hence, spiritual
progress is faster. 4. Due to faith in the Guru, one chants the Guru mantra
(note) with greater faith, than chanting the mantra (note) decided upon
by oneself. Also, when remembering the Guru, one tends to chant the Name given
by Him and thus chanting increases. 5. When one chants the Name of the
favourite Deity, at least some amount of ego accompanies it. On the contrary,
when chanting the Name recommended by the Guru, there is no ego.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
You posted as if you were speaking of active TM teachers. Here you
mention a former TM teacher. There are lots of those around (including myself)
and I could care less what they do and whether they smoke. In fact I could
care less if the active teachers smoke. I gave that up way back in 1973
several months before I learned TM. That after a production meeting where
people got stoned to plan a new TV show and all that happened was a bunch of
stupid ideas. For me, it was no longer increasing any creativity.
FYI, in India they refer to ganja as a sacrament for some paths. If these
former teachers find meditation boring try something different. In fact find a
teacher who will give them a guru mantra. Those definitely are not boring.
On 01/05/2015 05:44 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Bari2 - so naive.
I know one living right in Fairfield, a former TM teacher, been to India,
trained with SSRS (although not a Kriya teacher) who smokes.
Says meditation is flat, featureless and boring. Transcendence just another
ordinary experience. Says SSRS's hollow and empty meditations just put them to
sleep.
They use the same old supply chain - friends knowing other friends. All the
blah blah about FF being a spiritual capital doesn't stop a whole bunch of
people in the meditating community from doing smoke.
It certainly is not a sacrament - even if you are an Injun make-believing.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: God is on the ropes [2 Attachments]
England's paper Statistical Physics of Replication attached to this post. Really interesting idea, although I cannot follow the math. The paper was published in 2013. More recently he and colleagues have started to test the ideas in experiments, reported as Statistical Physics of Adaptation, which is the second paper (2014 pre-print version) attached to this post. In that second paper, his team's first reference citation in that paper is from a work by Richard Dawkins, whose main scientific career was evolutionary biology. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Posted as a treat for those who have attempted to cast doubt upon Darwin's work lately, in an attempt to poison the well against those godless evolutionists. God is on the ropes: The brilliant new science that has creationists and the Christian right terrified http://www.salon.com/2015/01/03/god_is_on_the_ropes_the_brilliant_new_science_that_has_creationists_and_the_christian_right_terrified/ http://www.salon.com/2015/01/03/god_is_on_the_ropes_the_brilliant_new_science_that_has_creationists_and_the_christian_right_terrified/ God is on the ropes: The brilliant new science that has ... http://www.salon.com/2015/01/03/god_is_on_the_ropes_the_brilliant_new_science_that_has_creationists_and_the_christian_right_terrified/ A young MIT professor is finishing Darwin's task — and threatening to undo everything the wacky right holds dear View on www.salon.com http://www.salon.com/2015/01/03/god_is_on_the_ropes_the_brilliant_new_science_that_has_creationists_and_the_christian_right_terrified/ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: What I ate
May I suggest that the following is one of the reasons you despise poetry: I wandered lonely as a cloud That floats on high o'er vales and hills, When all at once I saw a crowd, A host, of golden daffodils; Beside the lake, beneath the trees, Fluttering and dancing in the breeze. But how could you despise this: They fuck you up, your mum and dad. They may not mean to, but they do. They fill you with the faults they had And add some extra, just for you. From Philip Larkin’s “This Be the Verse” Th P
Re: [FairfieldLife] What I Ate II
Ooooh, I just love cannibal dishes! Try that with a side of stuffed nose and
lady fingers, garnished with gum drops and free toes.
From: anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 10:16 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] What I Ate II
1 human headpeppersalttarragon
Baked slow in low oven at 285 degrees F. for 10 hours. Baste with butter
occasionally during baking. Serve with dark beer.
Work cited: Perencanaan Meal Keluarga (Family Meal Planning) by Cahaya, Celamat
Datang Press, Sulaswesi (Celebes), Indonesia 1932 [by the way Cahaya is
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
You won't find the real meaning of a guru mantra on the Internet. That's for initiates. ;-) On 01/05/2015 10:24 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Though the word Gurumantra (note) http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/31_gurumantra.html# contains the word ‘mantra’, it mostly implies to which Name of God a disciple should chant. One should chant the Name recommended by the Guru rather than chanting the Name of one’s favourite Deity for the following reasons : 1. One does not understand which Name is best suited for one’s own spiritual progress. Only the Guru is capable of providing this guidance. 2. Chanting the Name of the favourite Deity http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/cid_5.html helps only to raise one’s sattvikta. The Gurumantra (note) http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/31_gurumantra.html# however, can take one to the nirgun state. 3. The Gurumantra (note) http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/31_gurumantra.html# does not contain mere letters, but has spiritual knowledge, Chaitanya and the Guru’s blessings. Hence, spiritual progress is faster. 4. Due to faith in the Guru, one chants the Gurumantra (note) http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/31_gurumantra.html# with greater faith, than chanting the mantra (note) http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/31_gurumantra.html# decided upon by oneself. Also, when remembering the Guru, one tends to chant the Name given by Him and thus chanting increases. 5. When one chants the Name of the favourite Deity, at least some amount of ego accompanies it. On the contrary, when chanting the Name recommended by the Guru http://www.sanatan.org/en/a/27_guru.html, there is no ego. *From:* Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, January 5, 2015 12:18 PM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke You posted as if you were speaking of *active* TM teachers. Here you mention a *former* TM teacher. There are lots of those around (including myself) and I could care less what they do and whether they smoke. In fact I could care less if the *active* teachers smoke. I gave that up way back in 1973 several months before I learned TM. That after a production meeting where people got stoned to plan a new TV show and all that happened was a bunch of stupid ideas. For me, it was no longer increasing any creativity. FYI, in India they refer to ganja as a sacrament for some paths. If these former teachers find meditation boring try something different. In fact find a teacher who will give them a guru mantra. Those definitely are *not *boring. On 01/05/2015 05:44 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com mailto:emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Bari2 - so naive. I know one living right in Fairfield, a former TM teacher, been to India, trained with SSRS (although not a Kriya teacher) who smokes. Says meditation is flat, featureless and boring. Transcendence just another ordinary experience. Says SSRS's hollow and empty meditations just put them to sleep. They use the same old supply chain - friends knowing other friends. All the blah blah about FF being a spiritual capital doesn't stop a whole bunch of people in the meditating community from doing smoke. It certainly is not a sacrament - even if you are an Injun make-believing.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : my pothead friends who all gave it about six months at most Does that mean that our dope smokin' buddies tried TM for 6 months, or that they thought you would only do TM for 6 months? That they thought I'd give it up and go back to my old ways, I thought they'd want to learn after I'd told them all about it and they'd seen my awesome progress (?) but none of them did. I probably drove them mad going on about it! From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2015 3:49 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote : I know quite a number of Buddhists. Almost all that I know smoke (and I'm not talking about Marbo or Fidel's Habanos). Previously, I considered this primarily a result of techniques that focused primarily upon the surface level of experience, both sensory and mental. Of course some of these techniques do give due consideration to mental silence. Some even acknowledge this without consigning it to merely a few moments of blank mind (the Kagyupa Mahamudra of Gampopa is an example). A select few even describe the value of the mind in its natural condition (prakriti manas) - active, alert but without a defined focus as the basis of meditation. This is highlighted in the the instructions of the Ganga Mahamudra by Tilopa and all the Dzochen instructions starting with founder Garab Dorje's Three Statements That Strike The Crucial Point. However, even given these considerations, I am still surprised at how many Buddhists that I know smoke. But even more suprising, I know TM Governors who were also trained by SSRS, who smoke - some almost daily. My question is simple - why? At this point I have already considered the usual reasons - 1. my experience went flat, 2. transcendence is no big thing any more, 3. TM/Sidhi Kriya/Sahaj is now boring. What do the denizens here who do/did TM/Sidhi or Kriya/Sahaj proffer as an explanation - anyone know? I was a heavy smoker when I learned TM but stopped within a month as I felt much more in touch with my body in a way I'd not had before. The absurdity of inhaling poisonous gas while every other fibre of my being was craving release into a better world seemed pretty stupid and told me at an actual cellular level (I imagined). I stubbed the last one out after a particularly nice prog and never thought of it again. I also smoked dope until the day I learned TM, that was a quicker decision. I didn't like the way it interfered with my new found clarity and hate the smell even now. But managed to avoid becoming a self-righteous bore with my pothead friends who all gave it about six months at most. I've also been on WPA's in eastern Europe and a lot of people there smoked. Some of them used to nip out during the sutras and have a quick ciggie. It really stank the place out when they came back. I think there's a cultural expectation to smoke over there that doesn't get overridden. I don't know anyone in the TMO in the UK who smokes but David Lynch is a hardcore addict, maybe it makes some people more sensitive than others? Maybe I'm just really enlightened. Joke.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My crazy dream of the atheist council
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Salyavin, Dr. David Bentley Hart would agree with you that the new atheist movement started because of the 9/11 incident. And, Dawkins may or may not have started this movement. Nonetheless, it is apparent that he struck a nerve in many people around the world. And, undoubtedly, he's made a lot money through the sales of his book. I suppose Deepak gives all his money to charity? Demonising a public figure for being popular is odd behaviour I think, like you want to find reasons to dislike him that don't apply to anybody else. But Hart states that Dawkins is making arguments, regarding atheism, that are weak and stupid as judged by the philosophers in academia. He states that Dawkins is not qualified to make such arguments. Specifically, the discussion of Darwins theory, whether it's justified or not, does not prove the existence or non-existence of God. Weak and stupid? I don't think the call for evidence is stupid, it's the way science works. If you have a proposition that the current paradigm is wrong then you have to show where everyone else is in error and say why your new theory is an improvement. The idea that Darwinism is superior to creationism in every way doesn't have to be made any more, the idea that the universe required no help in exploding and forming all the things we see in it also needs no further proof (though no one knows what happened before but the state it's in now severely limits the possibilities). So to overturn our current cornerstones of knowledge will require an idea that renders them inadequate but quantum physics and evolutionary theory are only ever supported by new evidence. They get tighter the more people check them, hardly the sign of weak theories! Also, even if he discussed the current theories about quantum string theory or about the Big Bang, he would not be able to prove the non-existence of God. Why? Because science is limited to things that are physical and measurable. As such, science cannot prove the non-existence of God, which is considered to be non-material and absolute. Unmeasurable means non-existent. If it has an effect on this universe in any way whatsoever we would see it or evidence that it exists. That is the bottom line. If god exists without doing anything then what is the point of him in the first place? Dawkins is a biologist and has not invoked any philosophical arguments that would address the issues about Being and God's existence. These questions are addressed in arguments using logic and metaphysics. Hart believes that God's existence can be proved through such methods. IMO, Hart is correct. If you have to rely on philosophical arguments then the cause is lost isn't it? Remember Judy and her EdFess obsession. She had to admit that the universe would be the same if her thiestic theory was removed from it. So what was it exactly, clever word play? Proves nothing. If it exists it can be measured. Conjecture isn't ever final proof for any branch of science. However, even if a logical proof can be justified, IMO it would not be enough to convince most people. They would prefer to see a physical proof that they can understand through the senses. But obviously this would not be possible. Therein lies the dilemma. A dilemma for god but not for me. Luckily if he is incapable of interacting with this universe he is incapable of punishing me for not believing. At the end of the day I just live without the idea but I understand where it comes from, I get the need for religion and have been there myself but you have be tough if you want the truth and apply a bit of rigour to everything in your head, I just think it's a bad explanation for experience that can be better accounted for psychologically than physically. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote : Just remember that Richard Dawkins agenda is to sell you his books and become a millionaire by proclaiming atheism, when in fact he's actually an agnostic. I think this quibbling over terms is a way of shifting the argument onto something irrelevant to avoid what they really should be talking about. Which is that the human race continues to follow iron age faiths with their attendant cosmologies in the face of the overwhelming evidence that says they are in error as explanations. This is one of Richard Dawkin's agendas. He decided to start the debate after 9/11 simply as a way of making everyone think whether we should still be following fundamentalist creeds when a bit of thought and compassion means we could come up with better ways of running society. As holder of the Simonyi chair for the public understanding of science at Oxford University it was probably part of his job description. Some would say that he wasn't the
[FairfieldLife] Fw: leonard cohen and silence -- 1/5/15
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Sign Up Here! | | | | | | Today's selection -- from The Art of Stillness by Pico Iyer. Leonard Cohen, legendary singer-songwriter, musician, poet, and novelist perhaps best known for his song Hallelujah, has more recently had occasion to explore a more monastic life: I'd come up here in order to write about [Leonard Cohen's] near-silent, anonymous life on the mountain, but for the moment I lost all sense of where I was. I could hardly believe that this rabbinical-seeming gentleman in wire-rimmed glasses and wool cap was in truth the singer and poet who'd been renowned for thirty years as an international heartthrob, a constant traveler, and an Armani-clad man of the world. Leonard Cohen had come to this Old World redoubt to make a life -- an art -- out of stillness. And he was working on simplifying himself as fiercely as he might on the verses of one of his songs, which he spends more than ten years polishing to perfection. The week I was visiting, he was essentially spending seven days and nights in a bare meditation hall, sitting stock-still. His name in the monastery, Jikan, referred to the silence between two thoughts. ... Sitting still, he said with unexpected passion, was 'the real deep entertainment' he had found in his sixty-one years on the planet. 'Real profound and voluptuous and delicious entertainment. The real feast that is available within this activity.' ... 'What else would I be doing?' he asked. 'Would I be starting a new marriage with a young woman and raising another family? Finding new drugs, buying more expensive wine? I don't know. This seems to me the most luxurious and sumptuous response to the emptiness of my own existence.' Typically lofty and pitiless words; living on such close terms with silence clearly hadn't diminished his gift for golden sentences. But the words carried weight when coming from one who seemed to have tasted all the pleasures that the world has to offer. Being in this remote place of stillness had nothing to do with piety or purity, he assured me; it was simply the most practical way he'd found of working through the confusion and terror that had long been his bedfellows. ... 'Nothing touches it,' Cohen said, as the light came into the cabin, of sitting still. Then he remembered himself, perhaps, and gave me a crinkly, crooked smile. 'Except if you're courtin',' he added. 'If you're young, the hormonal thrust has its own excitement.' Going nowhere, as Cohen described it, was the grand adventure that makes sense of everywhere else. Sitting still as a way of falling in love with the world and everything in it; I'd seldom thought of it like that. Going nowhere as a way of cutting through the noise and finding fresh time and energy to share with others; I'd sometimes moved toward the idea, but it had never come home to me so powerfully as in the example of this man who seemed to have everything, yet found his happiness, his freedom, in giving everything up. ... The idea has been around as long as humans have been, of course; the poets of East Asia, the philosophers of ancient Greece and Rome, regularly made stillness the center of their lives. But has the need for being in one place ever been as vital as it is right now? After a thirty-year study of time diaries, two sociologists found that Americans were actually working fewer hours than we did in the 1960s, but we feel as if we're working more. We have the sense, too often, of running at top speed and never being able to catch up. With machines coming to seem part of our nervous systems, while increasing their speed every season, we've lost our Sundays, our weekends, our nights off -- our holy days, as some would have it; our bosses, junk mailers, our parents can find us wherever we are, at any time of day or night. More and more of us feel like emergency-room physicians, permanently on call, required to heal ourselves but unable to find the prescription for all the clutter on our desk. ... Not many years ago, it was access to information and movement that seemed our greatest luxury; nowadays it's often freedom from information, the chance to sit still, that feels like the ultimate prize. Stillness is not just an indulgence for those with enough resources -- it's a necessity for anyone who wishes to gather less visible resources. Going nowhere, as Cohen had shown me, is not about austerity so much as about coming closer to one's senses. The Art of Stillness: Adventures in Going Nowhere Author: Pico IyerPublisher: Simon Schuster/ TEDCopyright 2014 by Pico IyerPages 2-6 If you wish to read further: Buy Now If you use the above link to purchase a book, delanceyplace proceeds from your purchase will benefit a children's literacy project. All delanceyplace profits are donated to charity. | | | | | | | | About Us Delanceyplace is a brief daily
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: leonard cohen and silence -- 1/5/15
Thanks for passing this along, Share. For those who don't know him, Pico Iyer is one of the luminaries of the American Buddhist Literary World (if there is such a thing). I first discovered him in the pages of Tricycle, the best Buddhist mag I've yet to find. He knows his Buddhist shit and his real-world shinola and he knows how to tell the difference between them. And he writes like a sonofabitch. To set him loose writing about Leonard Cohen and this period of his life is Kismet, a veritable Meetings With Remarkable Men for our age. Sounds like a must-read. If you liked this article, give this a try. The editors of 92Y invited Ayer to participate in their ongoing Poetry Center Online series, in which they give a noted writer the privilege of listening to an extremely rare recording from their archive of interviews and performances of one of that writer's favorite poets/singers/whatever. Pico Ayer got to review a 1966 recording of Leonard Cohen reading from his novel Beautiful Losers and performing The Stranger Song. http://92yondemand.org/75-at-75-pico-iyer-on-leonard-cohen/ Although I saw him perform many times, I only met Leonard Cohen once, at a TM wedding in Los Angeles. Because of the people getting married, the wedding party was a weird combination of TM royalty and Hollywood royalty, so Leonard in his black suit and black shirt didn't really stand out. Except for the ladies. There were women drooling on their husbands' shoulders as they turned their heads to stare at him. I've never seen anything like it. The man was simply the most powerful pussy magnet I've ever seen. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 4:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fw: leonard cohen and silence -- 1/5/15 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Sign Up Here! | | | | | | Today's selection -- from The Art of Stillness by Pico Iyer. Leonard Cohen, legendary singer-songwriter, musician, poet, and novelist perhaps best known for his song Hallelujah, has more recently had occasion to explore a more monastic life: I'd come up here in order to write about [Leonard Cohen's] near-silent, anonymous life on the mountain, but for the moment I lost all sense of where I was. I could hardly believe that this rabbinical-seeming gentleman in wire-rimmed glasses and wool cap was in truth the singer and poet who'd been renowned for thirty years as an international heartthrob, a constant traveler, and an Armani-clad man of the world. Leonard Cohen had come to this Old World redoubt to make a life -- an art -- out of stillness. And he was working on simplifying himself as fiercely as he might on the verses of one of his songs, which he spends more than ten years polishing to perfection. The week I was visiting, he was essentially spending seven days and nights in a bare meditation hall, sitting stock-still. His name in the monastery, Jikan, referred to the silence between two thoughts. ... Sitting still, he said with unexpected passion, was 'the real deep entertainment' he had found in his sixty-one years on the planet. 'Real profound and voluptuous and delicious entertainment. The real feast that is available within this activity.' ... 'What else would I be doing?' he asked. 'Would I be starting a new marriage with a young woman and raising another family? Finding new drugs, buying more expensive wine? I don't know. This seems to me the most luxurious and sumptuous response to the emptiness of my own existence.' Typically lofty and pitiless words; living on such close terms with silence clearly hadn't diminished his gift for golden sentences. But the words carried weight when coming from one who seemed to have tasted all the pleasures that the world has to offer. Being in this remote place of stillness had nothing to do with piety or purity, he assured me; it was simply the most practical way he'd found of working through the confusion and terror that had long been his bedfellows. ... 'Nothing touches it,' Cohen said, as the light came into the cabin, of sitting still. Then he remembered himself, perhaps, and gave me a crinkly, crooked smile. 'Except if you're courtin',' he added. 'If you're young, the hormonal thrust has its own excitement.' Going nowhere, as Cohen described it, was the grand adventure that makes sense of everywhere else. Sitting still as a way of falling in love with the world and everything in it; I'd seldom thought of it like that. Going nowhere as a way of cutting through the noise and finding fresh time and energy to share with others; I'd sometimes moved toward the idea, but it had never come home to me so powerfully as in the example of this man who seemed to have everything, yet found his happiness, his freedom, in giving everything up. ... The idea has been around
Re: [FairfieldLife] 2015 and Jewish holy days...
Google Judah Ben Samuel. Hassidic Rabbi from 1500's in Germany. Kind of goes with the four blood moons thing. He calculates exact time of Ottoman empire's control of Israel, the Balford declaration in 1917, end of Gentile dominance of Jerusalem in 1967, coming of Messiah in 2017, all based on Jubilees. Interesting stuff. From: he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 1:23 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] 2015 and Jewish holy days... Google translation from Finnish; astrologer: Seppo Tanhua (Black-smith Dance-field): ja Tarkoititko: 02.01.2015 HISTORIAN TÄRKEIN VUOSI 2015 Astrologin näkökulmasta katsoen pääsemme nyt hetkeksi hyppäämään myrskyn silmään Pluton ja Uranuksen tehdessä viimeistä tarkkaa neliötä maaliskuussa ja neljän verisen kuunpimennyksen sarjan päättyessä elokuussa 2015. Veikkaan että maailmalla ja elämässä yleensä tulee tapahtumaan suuria mullistuksia, jotka pakottavat meidät katselemaan tätä maailmaa ihan uudesta vinkkelistä. Nuo neljä veristä, täydellistä kuunpimennystä juutalaisten pyhinä päivinä ovat aikaisemmassa historiassa merkinneet kaikkein suurimpia muutoksia Israelin kansalle ja sitä kautta koko nykyiselle Lähi-idälle. Mitä siellä nyt tulee tapahtumaan, jää astrologille yhtä suureksi kysymysmerkiksi kuin kaikille muillekin. Valta vaihtuu tavalla tai toisella ja ihmishenki on halpaa valuuttaa, kun uskonnon varjolla lähdetään valloittamaan maailmaa. Maailman kolme suurinta mahtia, USA, Venäjä ja Kiina tulevat kaikki kokemaan suuria taloudellisia ja ehkä myös luonnon järjestämiä katastrofeja, kun kosminen järjestys aurinkokunnassamme rakentuu uudelleen. En pitäisi ihmeenä, vaikka valuutat menettäisivät suurimman osan arvostaan Venäjän jälkeen Euroopassa ja Amerikassa. Kehitys vie vääjäämättä siihen suuntaan maailmanvelan kasvaessa liian suureksi. Meille yksityisille ihmisille nämä maailmantapahtumat näyttäytyvät osittain kaukaisina, mutta aina koskettavina tragedioina. Silti sama radikaali uudistuminen tulee olemaan totta jokaisen ihmisen elämässä. Yksikään meistä ei selviä helpolla tästä kosmisesta myllerryksestä, jonka ajankohta on jopa USA:n dollariin piirretty siitä lähtien kun se on 1930 luvulta lukien ollut käytössä. Olemme koko ajan siirtymässä uuteen Kultaiseen aikakauteen ja se tarkoittaa kasvavaa tasapainoa ja harmoniaa sielussa, mielessä ja kehossa. Uskon että astrologialla tulee olemaan tärkeä merkitys tämän siirtymävaiheen toteutumisessa kaikille niille, jotka sen ottavat oppaakseen päivittäisten ratkaisujen edessä. Monia muitakin keinoja ja apuvälineitä oman tasapainon ja sisäisen voiman löytymiseen on tietysti olemassa. Parempi aika on joka tapauksessa käynnistynyt jo ja jokaisella meistä on sama mahdollisuus löytää jumalainen viisaus ja taianomainen sisäinen voima oman elämämme vaatimiin muutostöihin. Löytäessämme oman kosmisen rytmimme, tulee elämästä välittömästi helpompaa, rikkaampaa ja nautinnollisempaa. Ei ole mitään tarvetta väitellä tai riidellä yhtään mistään, jos teet kaikki ratkaisusi täydellä itseluottamuksella ja vailla hetkenkään katumusta ainoastakaan päätöksestä. Tämän energian löytämisprosessiin keskityn tämän vuoden merkkikohtaisissa horoskoopeissa. 01/02/2015 OUR MOST IMPORTANT YEAR 2015 Astrologer's point of view, we can now watching the eye of the storm for a while to jump to Pluto and Uranus square meters precise when making the last four in March and the bloody moon eclipse series end in August 2015. I predict that the world and life in general is going to happen major upheavals that force us to look at this world completely new perspective. The four bloody, full eclipse of the moon the Jewish holy days of the earlier mark in the history of the most biggest changes in the nation of Israel and that of the whole current of the Middle East. What is there now is going to happen, get astrology equal a question mark as to everyone else. The power to change one way or another, and human life is cheap currency, the religion under the guise of going to conquer the world. The world's three largest power by themselves, the US, Russia and China will all experience a major economic and perhaps also organized by natural disasters, the cosmic order of the Solar System is built again. I should not wonder, though currencies lose most of their value after Russia, Europe and America. Development will inevitably take the direction of the world debt becomes too high. For us [Finns?], for individuals, these events appear as part of the world far away, but always touching to tragedies. Yet, the same radical reform is going to be true of every human life. None of us can not be solved easily from this cosmic turmoil, a time which is up to the US dollar cartoon since it is the 1930's including been in use. We are constantly moving into a new Golden era and it means increasing the balance and harmony
[FairfieldLife] What I ate
Brussels sprouts and yellow bell pepper, sauteed in coconut oil with coarsely chopped fresh ginger. Then I added diced chicken thigh and dried sour cherries and cooked until chicken was done but still tender. I didn't add enough salt during cooking (Real Salt from Redmond Utah), so I sprinkled on some Indian black salt and a touch of a dried hot pepper mix called Volcano Dust 2. I love black salt; Petra hates it, so I'm only allowed to use it in my room because any room it's used in stinks like rotten eggs. I just lit a stick of incense, and I'll let it burn for a few minutes before putting it out. Speaking of Petra, we've been married 27 years, and yesterday, while sitting around the gas fireplace in the living room, we both learned something about each other that neither of us knew before: both of us absolutely despise poetry.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: leonard cohen and silence -- 1/5/15
you're welcome, turq, glad you enjoyed... From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Fw: leonard cohen and silence -- 1/5/15 Thanks for passing this along, Share. For those who don't know him, Pico Iyer is one of the luminaries of the American Buddhist Literary World (if there is such a thing). I first discovered him in the pages of Tricycle, the best Buddhist mag I've yet to find. He knows his Buddhist shit and his real-world shinola and he knows how to tell the difference between them. And he writes like a sonofabitch. To set him loose writing about Leonard Cohen and this period of his life is Kismet, a veritable Meetings With Remarkable Men for our age. Sounds like a must-read. If you liked this article, give this a try. The editors of 92Y invited Ayer to participate in their ongoing Poetry Center Online series, in which they give a noted writer the privilege of listening to an extremely rare recording from their archive of interviews and performances of one of that writer's favorite poets/singers/whatever. Pico Ayer got to review a 1966 recording of Leonard Cohen reading from his novel Beautiful Losers and performing The Stranger Song. http://92yondemand.org/75-at-75-pico-iyer-on-leonard-cohen/ Although I saw him perform many times, I only met Leonard Cohen once, at a TM wedding in Los Angeles. Because of the people getting married, the wedding party was a weird combination of TM royalty and Hollywood royalty, so Leonard in his black suit and black shirt didn't really stand out. Except for the ladies. There were women drooling on their husbands' shoulders as they turned their heads to stare at him. I've never seen anything like it. The man was simply the most powerful pussy magnet I've ever seen. From: Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 4:14 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fw: leonard cohen and silence -- 1/5/15 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Sign Up Here! | | | | | | Today's selection -- from The Art of Stillness by Pico Iyer. Leonard Cohen, legendary singer-songwriter, musician, poet, and novelist perhaps best known for his song Hallelujah, has more recently had occasion to explore a more monastic life: I'd come up here in order to write about [Leonard Cohen's] near-silent, anonymous life on the mountain, but for the moment I lost all sense of where I was. I could hardly believe that this rabbinical-seeming gentleman in wire-rimmed glasses and wool cap was in truth the singer and poet who'd been renowned for thirty years as an international heartthrob, a constant traveler, and an Armani-clad man of the world. Leonard Cohen had come to this Old World redoubt to make a life -- an art -- out of stillness. And he was working on simplifying himself as fiercely as he might on the verses of one of his songs, which he spends more than ten years polishing to perfection. The week I was visiting, he was essentially spending seven days and nights in a bare meditation hall, sitting stock-still. His name in the monastery, Jikan, referred to the silence between two thoughts. ... Sitting still, he said with unexpected passion, was 'the real deep entertainment' he had found in his sixty-one years on the planet. 'Real profound and voluptuous and delicious entertainment. The real feast that is available within this activity.' ... 'What else would I be doing?' he asked. 'Would I be starting a new marriage with a young woman and raising another family? Finding new drugs, buying more expensive wine? I don't know. This seems to me the most luxurious and sumptuous response to the emptiness of my own existence.' Typically lofty and pitiless words; living on such close terms with silence clearly hadn't diminished his gift for golden sentences. But the words carried weight when coming from one who seemed to have tasted all the pleasures that the world has to offer. Being in this remote place of stillness had nothing to do with piety or purity, he assured me; it was simply the most practical way he'd found of working through the confusion and terror that had long been his bedfellows. ... 'Nothing touches it,' Cohen said, as the light came into the cabin, of sitting still. Then he remembered himself, perhaps, and gave me a crinkly, crooked smile. 'Except if you're courtin',' he added. 'If you're young, the hormonal thrust has its own excitement.' Going nowhere, as Cohen described it, was the grand adventure that makes sense of everywhere else. Sitting still as a way of falling in love with the world and everything in it; I'd seldom thought of it like that. Going nowhere as a way of
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
thus the gurus maintain the secrecy smoke screen, giving them license to
screw people any which way they want to.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
You won't find the real meaning of a guru mantra on the Internet. That's
for initiates. ;-)
On 01/05/2015 10:24 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Though the word Guru mantra (note) contains the word ‘mantra’, it
mostly implies to which Name of God a disciple should chant. One should chant
the Name recommended by the Guru rather than chanting the Name of one’s
favourite Deity for the following reasons : 1. One does not understand which
Name is best suited for one’s own spiritual progress. Only the Guru is capable
of providing this guidance. 2. Chanting the Name of the favourite Deity helps
only to raise one’s sattvikta. The Guru mantra (note) however, can take one
to the nirgun state. 3. The Guru mantra (note) does not contain mere
letters, but has spiritual knowledge, Chaitanya and the Guru’s blessings.
Hence, spiritual progress is faster. 4. Due to faith in the Guru, one chants
the Guru mantra (note) with greater faith, than chanting the mantra (note)
decided upon by oneself. Also, when remembering the Guru, one tends to chant
the Name given by Him and thus chanting increases. 5. When one chants the
Name of the favourite Deity, at least some amount of ego accompanies it. On the
contrary, when chanting the Name recommended by the Guru, there is no ego.
From: Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMers, Buddhists and Smoke
You posted as if you were speaking of active TM teachers. Here you
mention a former TM teacher. There are lots of those around (including myself)
and I could care less what they do and whether they smoke. In fact I could
care less if the active teachers smoke. I gave that up way back in 1973
several months before I learned TM. That after a production meeting where
people got stoned to plan a new TV show and all that happened was a bunch of
stupid ideas. For me, it was no longer increasing any creativity.
FYI, in India they refer to ganja as a sacrament for some paths. If these
former teachers find meditation boring try something different. In fact find a
teacher who will give them a guru mantra. Those definitely are not boring.
On 01/05/2015 05:44 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Bari2 - so naive.
I know one living right in Fairfield, a former TM teacher, been to India,
trained with SSRS (although not a Kriya teacher) who smokes.
Says meditation is flat, featureless and boring. Transcendence just another
ordinary experience. Says SSRS's hollow and empty meditations just put them to
sleep.
They use the same old supply chain - friends knowing other friends. All the
blah blah about FF being a spiritual capital doesn't stop a whole bunch of
people in the meditating community from doing smoke.
It certainly is not a sacrament - even if you are an Injun make-believing.
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