[FairfieldLife] Rage against the machine!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "authfriend@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 4:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show While I consider Richard a troll, I do not consider Barry, you or Jim a troll. Barry is the very definition of a troll. "Pushing buttons" is just a euphemism for trolling. Don't pretend you weren't aware of that. Meanwhile, HAVING one's buttons so easily pushed that one can be made angry and obsessive just because of what someone writes to an obscure Internet forum is pretty much the definition of un-enlightenment and being a slave to one's emotions and attachments. What the people whining about "trolls" don't seem to realize is that THEY are characterizing themselves as "troll bait" and sorta saying, "Here I am, so weak and intellectually rigid that you can make me purple-faced angry and obsessive just by writing something negative about a belief I hold or a false guru that I worship." Given that scenario, and all of the classic definitions in spiritual literature of enlightenment vs. ignorance, t'would seem that "trolls" are far more highly evolved than those whose attachments they reveal. Judy is a troll, Willytex is a troll, Jimbo is a troll, seventhray is a troll. They are trolls because all they do is stir the shit on here. None of them even remotely try and contribute anything worth reading and all they do try and bring everyone else down. If this place is so painful one of them should maybe start their own site where they can go and talk without having their delicate sensibilities offended by opinions or people they don't like. Oh wait, that already happened! I wonder what went wrong and why they came back? Maybe they thought that everyone would join the new site and leave Turq on his own when the reality was that all the fun and interesting posters stayed here. Maybe they lack the imagination to come up with original topics of conversation? It's easy really, all you have to do is write about something you're interested in. No interests huh? Other than whining on news groups obviously. So what to do once the new site trick failed? Maybe they decided to hang out here and make the place unreadable. Yes, that would be a constructive use of their time and show how much they have evolved spiritually. They are almost at age 3 now. Maybe they're just a bunch of dicks? In anticipation of the endless list of tedious replies about fantastic the peak is compared to here I have one thing to say; Why not stay there and let everyone who wanted to stay here enjoy themselves? Why are you dweebs so fucking small minded?
[FairfieldLife] If I don't have sex I will die...
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
From: "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 4:12 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show While I consider Richard a troll, I do not consider Barry, you or Jim a troll. Barry is the very definition of a troll. "Pushing buttons" is just a euphemism for trolling. Don't pretend you weren't aware of that. Meanwhile, HAVING one's buttons so easily pushed that one can be made angry and obsessive just because of what someone writes to an obscure Internet forum is pretty much the definition of un-enlightenment and being a slave to one's emotions and attachments. What the people whining about "trolls" don't seem to realize is that THEY are characterizing themselves as "troll bait" and sorta saying, "Here I am, so weak and intellectually rigid that you can make me purple-faced angry and obsessive just by writing something negative about a belief I hold or a false guru that I worship." Given that scenario, and all of the classic definitions in spiritual literature of enlightenment vs. ignorance, t'would seem that "trolls" are far more highly evolved than those whose attachments they reveal. Yes people left over what I would consider a stupid point. It was the straw the camel stepped on and broke. They'd had more than enough crap thrown at them by Barry and others. They left because a more appealing alternative presented itself at the critical moment. It was the point at which one particularly stupid piece of troll-bait thought, "Aha! NOW I've got him. Maybe *this* is the thing I've been hoping and dreaming for all these years, and I can make a big enough stink over Barry using this analogy that I can extort Rick into throwing him off the forum." But it didn't work, and in fact backfired so badly that HE had to run away and leave the forum. Personally, I think the karma demonstrated by the whole scenario was pretty delicious. :-) Remember this group deals with transcendental meditation Oh, it does? Duh. I'd forgotten. The thing is, Xeno, she's telling the truth. This forum became a place for her to obsess about "getting Barry and anyone who dares to support him" years ago. She doesn't give a shit about TM any more -- the *only* thing that brings her scurrying roach-like out of the woodwork is another opportunity to try to turn people against Barry and "get" him. and those practising this technique are supposed to develop certain qualities such as integration, harmony, discrimination, purposefulness, precision, order, intelligence, infallibility, and other progressive characteristics, so it seems purposeful to test those qualities in people in the group to see if those qualities are really present. Bullshit. Testing folks' development of consciousness is not the purpose of FFL nor the prerogative of any of its members. Bullshit. The very reason there are so many charlatans in the world of spiritual practice is that so few people DO put their claims to the test. The very *idea* that someone as reactive and as chronically angry as Jim Flanegin could be enlightened is ludicrous. All I did was point it out, and (and this is the part that pisses him off so much) so clearly and so effectively that NO ONE actually believes his claims. About half the people here no longer practise it or practise something else. So, according to the advertisements, those not practising TM any more perhaps should show less of those qualities. This does not seem to be the case however. The main thing missing is invincibility. Those who leave lack invincibility, they have not developed a way to stand their ground. Also bullshit. There's more than one way to stand your ground, including getting out of the way of the missiles designed to smash you flat. Isn't it fascinating how the people who have declared themselves to be "troll bait" and the *victims* of these horrible "trolls" they're complaining about come up with the most violent metaphors for what's being done to them. The reality is that they clicked on a message on an electronic forum and were so weak and wimpy and attached that they got all angry and hot and bothered about a *bunch of words*. Unable to admit this, in their minds this becomes "being crushed by missiles designed to smash you flat." :-) You stood your ground, Barry stood his ground. A lot of the others folded in this environment. It is not as if the weapons here are guns and knives against which invincibility tends not to be very effective. There are really sharp disagreements as to what is and is not real in spirituality. I think it all comes down to criteria for what is considered evidence as to what is real, there are fundamental disagreements about that. No. It all comes down to people treating others with respect no matter the nature or sharpness of their disagreements. Even Barry acknowledged this at one point recently. The "disagreements" story about why FFL went bad is a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
The Ganesh puja and the hysteria of the priests who are terrified that they're
going to be put out of business is pretty funny. But the Bollywood engagement
dinner was even funnier -- gayest thing I've ever seen. :-)
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com T
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2015 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
Oh and you would probably enjoy the Indian woman in the episode performing
a Ganesh puja in a temple. :-D
Have you been subcontracting to Google?
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On 06/06/2015 11:22 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Jesus Christ! If it's as bad as Jupiter Ascending I'll never bother - I
just watched the first 20 minutes of JA last night, and turned it off as I
swore off the Bros forever. The only thing they did that was worth a crap was
the original Matrix followed by the painfully pitiful 2 sequels. Jupiter
Ascending makes David Lynch's films look good by comparison.
From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I'm on episode 2. I'm amazed that I'm giving it a chance, because
their latest flick before this ("Jupiter Ascending") has to be one of the
biggest piles of shit I have ever had to wade through.
So far, this one's kept my attention. And I'll probably keep watching, if for
no other reason to see the glimpses the Wachowskis are giving mainstream
America of alternative lifestyles, and to follow the soap opera of how
mainstream America reacts to that.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 6:23 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I watched the first episode of "Sense8" by the creators of "The
Matrix"
and "Babylon 5" on Netflix last night. Probably not for everyone here
but it's about 8 people from different places in the world who keep
experiencing each others lives. Daryl Hannah really gets around in this
one. There's a lot of beautiful cinematography too including scenes
shot in San Francisco. All episodes are currently available if you want
to binge watch. Bet someone is now.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
When you try to characterise an argument as feeble, you are not trying to respond to an argument in a reasoned way, you are just taking the lazy way out, so you do not have to do the work to think of a proper response. The only person on FFL I do not respond to is Richard, and I ignore his posts. I take time to respond to you however, but often you are very curt and dismissive. Judy was often dismissive in this way. I do not think Barry is this way, he is more of a hit and run assassin, and does not stay around to argue. I think you get annoyed if people disagree with you. I too get annoyed, but I usually try to think it through. Do you think of yourself as impatient? I often get that feeling from you. You sort of breeze through things without getting deeply involved intellectually, whereas I do not get deeply involved emotionally. Each of us is superficial in some way then. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Despite your protestations to the contrary, trolls all look alike, and their objectives are always the same. Same template, different day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well, you certainly do not put any effort into responding to those you disagree with. That is another sort of feeble. Do you think everyone is out to hook you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You, like Barry, try to disguise your troll-bait. Unfortunately, you aren't any good at it. If you have any more questions about how the Yahoo groups interface operates, please ask. Otherwise, Xeno, I am content to be aware of your feeble intellectual masturbation, from a distance. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't see there is much distinction between a distinction and a 'technical distinction' here. Yes Rick allows trolls, although who is and is not a troll partially depends on whether you like the content or not. Share liked Richard's content, while I think he is a troll. Would be easier to scan through things if Richard was not on the site. Because Rick does not post much, and does not actively moderate the site content, what rule is he breaking? Content by others is not moderated, the guidelines specify self-moderation because Rick choose the hands-off option. Is 'darn' allowed bit not 'damn'? Seems like there is a certain flexibility. Generally I observe people want content that they disagree with to be moderated, so which one is right in a disagreement over this? You do not break a rule because another does. I am not confused. I just do not care what you think about this particular subject. Moderating may require having some personal issues with what people say. If the guidelines were followed slavishly and literally, FFL would be as boring as The Peak usually is. If I were moderating this site, I would only eliminate one poster in the current group. Suppose I was moderating this site, and I made a rule that you had prove beyond a reasonable doubt that God existed before you were allowed to use the word or even the concept and related words on this site (you could publish a scientific paper in Science or Nature, that was accepted by scientists and replicated, that would work). You could talk about spirituality, but you could not use the word, say, 'divine' and others, otherwise you would be eliminated. What would your reaction be? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Surely you aren't as naive as you make yourself out to be, Xeno? Yes, the site is not moderated, but that is only a technical distinction. The Peak is not moderated either, with regard to the group settings. You possibly don't grasp the difference between moderating a site proactively, which is what the Yahoo setting refers to, and consciously breaking the rules here, as Rick does. Rick enables trolls, and that is definitely against the guidelines here. I hope that clears things up. I understand your confusion, as you have yet to run or moderate a forum, but perhaps you could understand the issue better next time, before posting? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line fr
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
One thing the guidelines do not tell you is to not be stupid, which tends to invite repercussions from those who think they know better. Cruelty is sometimes only in appearance. A true master might be very rough with a student (common in historical Zen for example), to wake the student from their slumbers, and appear to be cruel, if that particular student is in need of being aroused that way. The TMO seems rather callous at times, but it not because of a student's need, but an endemic flaw in the org. Some people seem naturally cruel. I have not encountered this on FFL but I have only been here about 1/3 the time FFL has been online. Most of the badgering on FFL seems to come from one person thinking another has made a stupid move and thinking they know better, tell them so in rather certain explicit terms. I do not think any of us have not done this. Now I agree with Buck's comments below about being constantly negative is an issue that can head one toward trouble, but I do not believe the reason he gave from one of Charlie's lectures, even though I liked Charlie. Charlie was fun to listen too, but I thought he was a bit nuts, into a lot of esoteric woo. unkind: uncharitable, unpleasant, disagreeable, nasty, mean, mean-spirited, cruel, vindictive, vicious, spiteful, malicious, callous, unsympathetic, unfeeling, uncaring, unsparing, hurtful, ill-natured, hard-hearted, cold-hearted; unfriendly, uncivil, inconsiderate, insensitive, and hostile — if you can face this, you might be a candidate for invincibility, and if not, you might be a candidate for ridicule if you are promoting a technique that promotes invincibility, but it did not work for you, even though you keep saying it does. No one is invincible on the personal level of life because that is the weakest level, in which our flaws become most evident. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you all the best in your new role... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in their guidance. For instance, “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic current.” -Charles Lutes, Will and Desire, 5/3/91 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting limit. WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time (wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander plays as moderator. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep questi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Despite your protestations to the contrary, trolls all look alike, and their objectives are always the same. Same template, different day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well, you certainly do not put any effort into responding to those you disagree with. That is another sort of feeble. Do you think everyone is out to hook you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You, like Barry, try to disguise your troll-bait. Unfortunately, you aren't any good at it. If you have any more questions about how the Yahoo groups interface operates, please ask. Otherwise, Xeno, I am content to be aware of your feeble intellectual masturbation, from a distance. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't see there is much distinction between a distinction and a 'technical distinction' here. Yes Rick allows trolls, although who is and is not a troll partially depends on whether you like the content or not. Share liked Richard's content, while I think he is a troll. Would be easier to scan through things if Richard was not on the site. Because Rick does not post much, and does not actively moderate the site content, what rule is he breaking? Content by others is not moderated, the guidelines specify self-moderation because Rick choose the hands-off option. Is 'darn' allowed bit not 'damn'? Seems like there is a certain flexibility. Generally I observe people want content that they disagree with to be moderated, so which one is right in a disagreement over this? You do not break a rule because another does. I am not confused. I just do not care what you think about this particular subject. Moderating may require having some personal issues with what people say. If the guidelines were followed slavishly and literally, FFL would be as boring as The Peak usually is. If I were moderating this site, I would only eliminate one poster in the current group. Suppose I was moderating this site, and I made a rule that you had prove beyond a reasonable doubt that God existed before you were allowed to use the word or even the concept and related words on this site (you could publish a scientific paper in Science or Nature, that was accepted by scientists and replicated, that would work). You could talk about spirituality, but you could not use the word, say, 'divine' and others, otherwise you would be eliminated. What would your reaction be? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Surely you aren't as naive as you make yourself out to be, Xeno? Yes, the site is not moderated, but that is only a technical distinction. The Peak is not moderated either, with regard to the group settings. You possibly don't grasp the difference between moderating a site proactively, which is what the Yahoo setting refers to, and consciously breaking the rules here, as Rick does. Rick enables trolls, and that is definitely against the guidelines here. I hope that clears things up. I understand your confusion, as you have yet to run or moderate a forum, but perhaps you could understand the issue better next time, before posting? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster
[FairfieldLife] Re: Moderating The Peep Show
Cute. When do you get to be a full moderator for this site, Doug? Is this your first official attempt? It seems you are practicing with me, or something, given the plethora of more meaningful targets available. Regardless, I wish you all the best in your new role... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : 'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in their guidance. For instance, “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic current.” -Charles Lutes, Will and Desire, 5/3/91 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting limit. WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time (wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander plays as moderator. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this point. I thought you left? Left to start a group with moderation? Why not stay there if you can't cope with being here? Why the endless whining? Is it some sort of denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Are you on some sort of mission to save us from ourselves? You are the irritating troll, do you understand? You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Go away. Nothing is going to change here because we like chatting and having fun. Go away and stop spoiling it. You and your mates are tedious beyond words. Go away. You are the trolls. Go away. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is true the original post by Turqb was the meme of a slur in violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines and should have been moderated simply then by the group owner. Moderation is simple to do, either ask someone to withdraw/delete such a post themselves or a moderator remove it and suspend the perp's membership posting privilege. Either-or. Ask the person for some self-restraint and if they don't come right through then clip their membership privilege. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are quite reasonable. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show How do you know no one here is a child molester? Since, for you Xeno, it doesn't qualify if someone suggests anal sex with babies, where do you personally draw the line, whether or not someone has such tendencies? I think you've sort of painted yourself into a cor
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Well, you certainly do not put any effort into responding to those you disagree with. That is another sort of feeble. Do you think everyone is out to hook you? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You, like Barry, try to disguise your troll-bait. Unfortunately, you aren't any good at it. If you have any more questions about how the Yahoo groups interface operates, please ask. Otherwise, Xeno, I am content to be aware of your feeble intellectual masturbation, from a distance. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't see there is much distinction between a distinction and a 'technical distinction' here. Yes Rick allows trolls, although who is and is not a troll partially depends on whether you like the content or not. Share liked Richard's content, while I think he is a troll. Would be easier to scan through things if Richard was not on the site. Because Rick does not post much, and does not actively moderate the site content, what rule is he breaking? Content by others is not moderated, the guidelines specify self-moderation because Rick choose the hands-off option. Is 'darn' allowed bit not 'damn'? Seems like there is a certain flexibility. Generally I observe people want content that they disagree with to be moderated, so which one is right in a disagreement over this? You do not break a rule because another does. I am not confused. I just do not care what you think about this particular subject. Moderating may require having some personal issues with what people say. If the guidelines were followed slavishly and literally, FFL would be as boring as The Peak usually is. If I were moderating this site, I would only eliminate one poster in the current group. Suppose I was moderating this site, and I made a rule that you had prove beyond a reasonable doubt that God existed before you were allowed to use the word or even the concept and related words on this site (you could publish a scientific paper in Science or Nature, that was accepted by scientists and replicated, that would work). You could talk about spirituality, but you could not use the word, say, 'divine' and others, otherwise you would be eliminated. What would your reaction be? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Surely you aren't as naive as you make yourself out to be, Xeno? Yes, the site is not moderated, but that is only a technical distinction. The Peak is not moderated either, with regard to the group settings. You possibly don't grasp the difference between moderating a site proactively, which is what the Yahoo setting refers to, and consciously breaking the rules here, as Rick does. Rick enables trolls, and that is definitely against the guidelines here. I hope that clears things up. I understand your confusion, as you have yet to run or moderate a forum, but perhaps you could understand the issue better next time, before posting? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to
Re: [FairfieldLife] Egg Rationing?
well look at it this way, as soon as the rains return, you'll have to deal with
mud slides.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Egg Rationing?
At least, I hear, you no longer have a drought to contend with. I wish
the same could be said to California but today is the kind of day people move
to California for. It's sunny in the 80's and these days bring a nice vibe
with them. But folks are already squabbling over water issues. The Gov, much
to his credit, tried to hold back restrictions because I think he knew the
state and local bureaucrats would go all authoritarian with them if given the
chance. He was probably hoping there would be late rainfall to help but it
hasn't happened yet.
On 06/06/2015 10:29 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Oh, the humanity of it all! This global warming event of the great egg
shortage has caused tremendous devastation to my town of Tomball. The students
have bought out all of their allocations of eggs at the local H-E-B grocery
store(Three carton limit) in order to egg the local Whataburger for refusal to
serve breakfasts with eggs in them due to the egg shortage. Auto paint shops
are in fear of a depression and passing by local Yoga classe,s one can hear the
chanting of "I Am The Eggman, cookoocajub". When will it all end!
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 11:36 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Egg Rationing?
Apparently so at least in Texas. More "end times" stuff? Is the "Bird
Flu" a conspiracy?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/05/the-largest-grocer-in-the-texas-is-now-rationing-eggs/
Poor Mikey and Willy.
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[FairfieldLife] Moderating The Peep Show
'Don't be Unkind'. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are really quite enlightened in their guidance. For instance, “If one is constantly negative, one is heading towards trouble. By negative thinking, feeling and acting one creates dark patches and muddy colors in the aura which, in turn, prevent the flow of God's creative energy from reaching him. Without the light of God, the body starts of manifest various imbalances and one's health and lifespan is compromised. Turning to vitamins, minerals and excess sunlight does not help because the body is primarily sustained by cosmic current.” -Charles Lutes, Will and Desire, 5/3/91 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting limit. WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time (wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander plays as moderator. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this point. I thought you left? Left to start a group with moderation? Why not stay there if you can't cope with being here? Why the endless whining? Is it some sort of denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Are you on some sort of mission to save us from ourselves? You are the irritating troll, do you understand? You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Go away. Nothing is going to change here because we like chatting and having fun. Go away and stop spoiling it. You and your mates are tedious beyond words. Go away. You are the trolls. Go away. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is true the original post by Turqb was the meme of a slur in violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines and should have been moderated simply then by the group owner. Moderation is simple to do, either ask someone to withdraw/delete such a post themselves or a moderator remove it and suspend the perp's membership posting privilege. Either-or. Ask the person for some self-restraint and if they don't come right through then clip their membership privilege. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are quite reasonable. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "reverse_archery@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show How do you know no one here is a child molester? Since, for you Xeno, it doesn't qualify if someone suggests anal sex with babies, where do you personally draw the line, whether or not someone has such tendencies? I think you've sort of painted yourself into a corner on this one. I am not accusing Barry of anything... Similarly, I am not accusing Jim Flanegin from the Chico, California area of anything, just reminding him that people who boast of having a huge stash of automatic weapons and ammunition and of knowing how to create IEDs and chemical weapons might just
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
While I consider Richard a troll, I do not consider Barry, you or Jim a troll. Barry is the very definition of a troll. "Pushing buttons" is just a euphemism for trolling. Don't pretend you weren't aware of that. Yes people left over what I would consider a stupid point. It was the straw the camel stepped on and broke. They'd had more than enough crap thrown at them by Barry and others. They left because a more appealing alternative presented itself at the critical moment. Remember this group deals with transcendental meditation Oh, it does? Duh. I'd forgotten. and those practising this technique are supposed to develop certain qualities such as integration, harmony, discrimination, purposefulness, precision, order, intelligence, infallibility, and other progressive characteristics, so it seems purposeful to test those qualities in people in the group to see if those qualities are really present. Bullshit. Testing folks' development of consciousness is not the purpose of FFL nor the prerogative of any of its members. About half the people here no longer practise it or practise something else. So, according to the advertisements, those not practising TM any more perhaps should show less of those qualities. This does not seem to be the case however. The main thing missing is invincibility. Those who leave lack invincibility, they have not developed a way to stand their ground. Also bullshit. There's more than one way to stand your ground, including getting out of the way of the missiles designed to smash you flat. You stood your ground, Barry stood his ground. A lot of the others folded in this environment. It is not as if the weapons here are guns and knives against which invincibility tends not to be very effective. There are really sharp disagreements as to what is and is not real in spirituality. I think it all comes down to criteria for what is considered evidence as to what is real, there are fundamental disagreements about that. No. It all comes down to people treating others with respect no matter the nature or sharpness of their disagreements. Even Barry acknowledged this at one point recently. The "disagreements" story about why FFL went bad is a red herring. And Barry does not stand his ground. He states his case, such as it may be, then runs away from any criticism, only to come at the critic from left field with a load of insults and maliciously false stories. You were the lynch pin of the the group you refer to as the 'general perspective' which was typically more tolerant of religious ideas and woo, even though you were actually more critical of many of these ideas than the people who tended to gather around you. When you left, they lost their spokesperson, they were not as aggressive as you and generally less capable of fashioning an argument for response. They rode your coattails, but that is not something you can do if you want to be invincible and want to stand up for a point. I should think you could come up with your own story rather than recycling this feeble tale of Barry's. Like most of the others he tells, this one does not conform to reality. It was designed to insult and intimidate TM supporters. They spoke out in their own way with their own thoughts just as strongly as I did, sometimes more strongly. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You've made a strawman argument, Xeno. Jim's point, which you have not addressed, was explicit: "The [Yahoo] guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum." There is no unambiguous solution to trolling on FFL, that is correct. This isn't about Yahoo "enforcing" its guidelines, much less about the recent Supreme Court case (which wasn't actually about "free speech"), or any legal issue, for that matter. Nor is it about what may happen on other groups. Trolling isn't illegal, but permitting it degrades the quality of discussion, whether it's by Richard's flooding the forum with idiotic prattle or Barry "pushing buttons" specifically to incite angry reactions. While I consider Richard a troll, I do not consider Barry, you or Jim a troll. Plus which, as Jim has gone on to point out to you, the group setting "not moderated" refers to approving or disapproving messages before they're posted. There is indeed moderation after the fact on FFL in certain very specific situations, as Alex noted (he left out breach of privacy, e.g., outing the real name of a person who wishes to remain anonymous). It's a question of *how much* moderation takes place and on what basis. That is correct. This group lost a significant segment of its regular participants due to unrestrained malicious trolling. They represented a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris on Islam....
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
A PBS documentary on Islam:
Thanks - have bookmarked it to watch later.
Islam: Empire of Faith. Part 1: Prophet Muhammad and rise of Islam (full; PBS
Documentary) https://youtu.be/yX3UHNhQ1Zk
https://youtu.be/yX3UHNhQ1Zk
Islam: Empire of Faith. Part 1: Prophet Muhammad and ris...
https://youtu.be/yX3UHNhQ1Zk Part 1 of the famous PBS Documentary "Islam:
Empire of faith" produced in 2000. http://www.pbs.org/empires/islam/film.html
This part is about the Rasool M...
View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/yX3UHNhQ1Zk
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On 06/06/2015 04:28 PM, s3raphita@... mailto:s3raphita@... [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Re “If you go and read the Koran, sit back, afterwards, then honestly ask
yourself: what would Muhammad want?” says Harris.":
If Islam had remained a small cult in Mecca and someone today became curious
about their beliefs and so read through The Koran (I've read it twice) the
impression left would be that Muhammad was extremely intolerant of other
beliefs. A classical liberal he most certainly was not.
Apologists for Islam point out that at the time Muhammad was engaged in open
warfare between his own followers and others, like Jews, Christians and pagans,
so picking up on those passages which reveal his closed mind is like
criticizing anti-German propaganda during the Second World War. There's
something to be said for that but the sheer relentlessness of his constant talk
of unbelievers roasting in Hell does suggest someone with issues.
There is a strange, incantatory poetry about some passages and I've little
doubt that Muhammad did have a genuine spiritual experience ("Allah is Nearer
to Man than his Jugular Vein") and he did wish to see a united community at
peace. But it's a dangerous book.
I shall be getting Sam Harris's latest title when it becomes available.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mailto:dhamiltony2k5@... wrote :
of a larger 'otherness', outside of rational-conscious experience:
consciousness.
..his father came from a Quaker background.
Harris looks to eastern religion — Buddhism, and more specifically, the
mediation practice of mindfulness — as a way of finding a sense of otherness,
outside of rational-conscious experience.
In this view, he explains, consciousness itself is identical to the very
thing one might otherwise mistake for God.
The main problem, Harris believes, is that the issue is far greater than
simply containing radical ideas from a handful of Muslim extremists.
“If you go and read the Koran, sit back, afterwards, then honestly ask
yourself: what would Muhammad want?” says Harris.
“You can call this idea Islamism, Muslim extremism, Islamic terrorism, but the
main point is this: it’s Islamic to the core. We [in the West] are not at war
with generic extremism. We are at war with a death cult that is animated by a
7th-century approach to Islam.”
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :
Atheist writer bravely disses Islam.
He seems confused about who the aggressors are in the Israeli conflict though.
Anyone would think that the Palestinians don't have the right to try and get
their land back that was stolen from them in 1948, and more every year since.
World must confront jihadism’s roots in Islamic doctrine, says author
World must confront jihadism’s roots in Islamic d... With a blend of science
and secularism, Jewish-born thinker Sam Harris claims Islam is uniquely
problematic as a religion in today’s world, and anyone who disag...
View on www.timesofisrael.com
Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Geopolitical Roundup
Good overview of the current geopolitical situation by Michael Chossudovsky: https://youtu.be/ZtLABW149Ss Watch it unfold around you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Maybe he feels better when he has something to do at work or someone to talk to on Saturday night. Thanks for all your help, Judy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : More strawmen and faux naivete. If you aren't interested in the topic, why are you commenting at length? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't see there is much distinction between a distinction and a 'technical distinction' here. Yes Rick allows trolls, although who is and is not a troll partially depends on whether you like the content or not. Share liked Richard's content, while I think he is a troll. Would be easier to scan through things if Richard was not on the site. Because Rick does not post much, and does not actively moderate the site content, what rule is he breaking? Content by others is not moderated, the guidelines specify self-moderation because Rick choose the hands-off option. Is 'darn' allowed bit not 'damn'? Seems like there is a certain flexibility. Generally I observe people want content that they disagree with to be moderated, so which one is right in a disagreement over this? You do not break a rule because another does. I am not confused. I just do not care what you think about this particular subject. Moderating may require having some personal issues with what people say. If the guidelines were followed slavishly and literally, FFL would be as boring as The Peak usually is. If I were moderating this site, I would only eliminate one poster in the current group. Suppose I was moderating this site, and I made a rule that you had prove beyond a reasonable doubt that God existed before you were allowed to use the word or even the concept and related words on this site (you could publish a scientific paper in Science or Nature, that was accepted by scientists and replicated, that would work). You could talk about spirituality, but you could not use the word, say, 'divine' and others, otherwise you would be eliminated. What would your reaction be? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Surely you aren't as naive as you make yourself out to be, Xeno? Yes, the site is not moderated, but that is only a technical distinction. The Peak is not moderated either, with regard to the group settings. You possibly don't grasp the difference between moderating a site proactively, which is what the Yahoo setting refers to, and consciously breaking the rules here, as Rick does. Rick enables trolls, and that is definitely against the guidelines here. I hope that clears things up. I understand your confusion, as you have yet to run or moderate a forum, but perhaps you could understand the issue better next time, before posting? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Was it something I said? Just shoot me. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Trolling isn't illegal, but permitting it degrades the quality of discussion, whether it's by Richard's flooding the forum with idiotic prattle or Barry "pushing buttons" specifically to incite angry reactions. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : While I consider Richard a troll, I do not consider Barry, you or Jim a troll. Plus which, as Jim has gone on to point out to you, the group setting "not moderated" refers to approving or disapproving messages before they're posted. There is indeed moderation after the fact on FFL in certain very specific situations, as Alex noted (he left out breach of privacy, e.g., outing the real name of a person who wishes to remain anonymous). It's a question of *how much* moderation takes place and on what basis. That is correct. This group lost a significant segment of its regular participants due to unrestrained malicious trolling. They represented a general perspective of which the group is now largely deprived. There's a real sense in which a group does not qualify as a "free speech zone" if those members taking one side of an argument are treated so badly by the other side that they no longer want to participate. Yes people left over what I would consider a stupid point. Remember this group deals with transcendental meditation and those practising this technique are supposed to develop certain qualities such as integration, harmony, discrimination, purposefulness, precision, order, intelligence, infallibility, and other progressive characteristics, so it seems purposeful to test those qualities in people in the group to see if those qualities are really present. About half the people here no longer practise it or practise something else. So, according to the advertisements, those not practising TM any more perhaps should show less of those qualities. This does not seem to be the case however. The main thing missing is invincibility. Those who leave lack invincibility, they have not developed a way to stand their ground. You stood your ground, Barry stood his ground. A lot of the others folded in this environment. It is not as if the weapons here are guns and knives against which invincibility tends not to be very effective. There are really sharp disagreements as to what is and is not real in spirituality. I think it all comes down to criteria for what is considered evidence as to what is real, there are fundamental disagreements about that. You were the lynch pin of the the group you refer to as the 'general perspective' which was typically more tolerant of religious ideas and woo, even though you were actually more critical of many of these ideas than the people who tended to gather around you. When you left, they lost their spokesperson, they were not as aggressive as you and generally less capable of fashioning an argument for response. They rode your coattails, but that is not something you can do if you want to be invincible and want to stand up for a point. Another thing that occurs to me is there is a religion non-religion divide here which breaks down into considerations of whether spirituality is theistic or non-theistic. For example my spiritual inclinations have always been non-theistic. Historically on this planet, divisions between theists and the division between theism and atheism have resulted in some of the worst cases of human behaviour on the planet. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administra
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
Oh and you would probably enjoy the Indian woman in the episode
performing a Ganesh puja in a temple. :-D
Have you been subcontracting to Google?
http://news.yahoo.com/google-puts-india-pm-criminal-search-line-232447061.html
On 06/06/2015 11:22 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Jesus Christ! If it's as bad as Jupiter Ascending I'll never bother -
I just watched the first 20 minutes of JA last night, and turned it
off as I swore off the Bros forever. The only thing they did that was
worth a crap was the original Matrix followed by the painfully pitiful
2 sequels. Jupiter Ascending makes David Lynch's films look good by
comparison.
*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
*Sent:* Saturday, June 6, 2015 12:36 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
*/I'm on episode 2. I'm amazed that I'm giving it a chance, because
their latest flick before this ("Jupiter Ascending") has to be one of
the biggest piles of shit I have ever had to wade through.
/*
*/
/*
*/So far, this one's kept my attention. And I'll probably keep
watching, if for no other reason to see the glimpses the Wachowskis
are giving mainstream America of alternative lifestyles, and to follow
the soap opera of how mainstream America reacts to that.
/*
*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
*Sent:* Saturday, June 6, 2015 6:23 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I watched the first episode of "Sense8" by the creators of "The Matrix"
and "Babylon 5" on Netflix last night. Probably not for everyone here
but it's about 8 people from different places in the world who keep
experiencing each others lives. Daryl Hannah really gets around in this
one. There's a lot of beautiful cinematography too including scenes
shot in San Francisco. All episodes are currently available if you want
to binge watch. Bet someone is now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris on Islam....
A PBS documentary on Islam:
https://youtu.be/yX3UHNhQ1Zk
On 06/06/2015 04:28 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Re “If you go and read the Koran, sit back, afterwards, then honestly
ask yourself: what would Muhammad want?” says Harris.":
If Islam had remained a small cult in Mecca and someone today became
curious about their beliefs and so read through The Koran (I've read
it twice) the impression left would be that Muhammad was extremely
intolerant of other beliefs. A classical liberal he most certainly was
not.
Apologists for Islam point out that at the time Muhammad was engaged
in open warfare between his own followers and others, like Jews,
Christians and pagans, so picking up on those passages which reveal
his closed mind is like criticizing anti-German propaganda during the
Second World War. There's something to be said for that but the sheer
relentlessness of his constant talk of unbelievers roasting in Hell
does suggest someone with issues.
There is a strange, incantatory poetry about some passages and I've
little doubt that Muhammad did have a genuine spiritual experience
("Allah is Nearer to Man than his Jugular Vein") and he did wish to
see a united community at peace. But it's a dangerous book.
I shall be getting Sam Harris's latest title when it becomes available.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
of a larger 'otherness', outside of rational-conscious experience:
consciousness.
..his father came from a Quaker background.
Harris looks to eastern religion — Buddhism, and more specifically,
the mediation practice of mindfulness — as a way of finding a sense of
otherness, outside of rational-conscious experience.
In this view, he explains, consciousness itself is identical to the
very thing one might otherwise mistake for God.
The main problem, Harris believes, is that the issue is far greater
than simply containing radical ideas from a handful of Muslim extremists.
“If you go and read the Koran, sit back, afterwards, then honestly ask
yourself: what would Muhammad want?” says Harris.
“You can call this idea Islamism, Muslim extremism, Islamic terrorism,
but the main point is this: it’s Islamic to the core. We [in the West]
are not at war with generic extremism. We are at war with a death cult
that is animated by a 7th-century approach to Islam.”
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Atheist writer bravely disses Islam.
He seems confused about who the aggressors are in the Israeli conflict
though. Anyone would think that the Palestinians don't have the right
to try and get their land back that was stolen from them in 1948, and
more every year since.
World must confront jihadism’s roots in Islamic doctrine, says author
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris on Islam....
Supposedly at the time the war lords in the middle east were constantly
fighting not making for a very peaceful place. So Muhammad put together
this movement to quell the war lords and end the worship of multiple
deities (each warlord with their own).
Of course now we have the war lords of the USA, Israel, ISIS, etc.
stirring up things there. The first two worship money and the third is
either a fad or a military PSYOP using crazy people.
On 06/06/2015 04:28 PM, s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Re “If you go and read the Koran, sit back, afterwards, then honestly
ask yourself: what would Muhammad want?” says Harris.":
If Islam had remained a small cult in Mecca and someone today became
curious about their beliefs and so read through The Koran (I've read
it twice) the impression left would be that Muhammad was extremely
intolerant of other beliefs. A classical liberal he most certainly was
not.
Apologists for Islam point out that at the time Muhammad was engaged
in open warfare between his own followers and others, like Jews,
Christians and pagans, so picking up on those passages which reveal
his closed mind is like criticizing anti-German propaganda during the
Second World War. There's something to be said for that but the sheer
relentlessness of his constant talk of unbelievers roasting in Hell
does suggest someone with issues.
There is a strange, incantatory poetry about some passages and I've
little doubt that Muhammad did have a genuine spiritual experience
("Allah is Nearer to Man than his Jugular Vein") and he did wish to
see a united community at peace. But it's a dangerous book.
I shall be getting Sam Harris's latest title when it becomes available.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
of a larger 'otherness', outside of rational-conscious experience:
consciousness.
..his father came from a Quaker background.
Harris looks to eastern religion — Buddhism, and more specifically,
the mediation practice of mindfulness — as a way of finding a sense of
otherness, outside of rational-conscious experience.
In this view, he explains, consciousness itself is identical to the
very thing one might otherwise mistake for God.
The main problem, Harris believes, is that the issue is far greater
than simply containing radical ideas from a handful of Muslim extremists.
“If you go and read the Koran, sit back, afterwards, then honestly ask
yourself: what would Muhammad want?” says Harris.
“You can call this idea Islamism, Muslim extremism, Islamic terrorism,
but the main point is this: it’s Islamic to the core. We [in the West]
are not at war with generic extremism. We are at war with a death cult
that is animated by a 7th-century approach to Islam.”
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Atheist writer bravely disses Islam.
He seems confused about who the aggressors are in the Israeli conflict
though. Anyone would think that the Palestinians don't have the right
to try and get their land back that was stolen from them in 1948, and
more every year since.
World must confront jihadism’s roots in Islamic doctrine, says author
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
You, like Barry, try to disguise your troll-bait. Unfortunately, you aren't any good at it. If you have any more questions about how the Yahoo groups interface operates, please ask. Otherwise, Xeno, I am content to be aware of your feeble intellectual masturbation, from a distance. lol ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't see there is much distinction between a distinction and a 'technical distinction' here. Yes Rick allows trolls, although who is and is not a troll partially depends on whether you like the content or not. Share liked Richard's content, while I think he is a troll. Would be easier to scan through things if Richard was not on the site. Because Rick does not post much, and does not actively moderate the site content, what rule is he breaking? Content by others is not moderated, the guidelines specify self-moderation because Rick choose the hands-off option. Is 'darn' allowed bit not 'damn'? Seems like there is a certain flexibility. Generally I observe people want content that they disagree with to be moderated, so which one is right in a disagreement over this? You do not break a rule because another does. I am not confused. I just do not care what you think about this particular subject. Moderating may require having some personal issues with what people say. If the guidelines were followed slavishly and literally, FFL would be as boring as The Peak usually is. If I were moderating this site, I would only eliminate one poster in the current group. Suppose I was moderating this site, and I made a rule that you had prove beyond a reasonable doubt that God existed before you were allowed to use the word or even the concept and related words on this site (you could publish a scientific paper in Science or Nature, that was accepted by scientists and replicated, that would work). You could talk about spirituality, but you could not use the word, say, 'divine' and others, otherwise you would be eliminated. What would your reaction be? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Surely you aren't as naive as you make yourself out to be, Xeno? Yes, the site is not moderated, but that is only a technical distinction. The Peak is not moderated either, with regard to the group settings. You possibly don't grasp the difference between moderating a site proactively, which is what the Yahoo setting refers to, and consciously breaking the rules here, as Rick does. Rick enables trolls, and that is definitely against the guidelines here. I hope that clears things up. I understand your confusion, as you have yet to run or moderate a forum, but perhaps you could understand the issue better next time, before posting? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a f
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sam Harris on Islam....
Re “If you go and read the Koran, sit back, afterwards, then honestly ask
yourself: what would Muhammad want?” says Harris.":
If Islam had remained a small cult in Mecca and someone today became curious
about their beliefs and so read through The Koran (I've read it twice) the
impression left would be that Muhammad was extremely intolerant of other
beliefs. A classical liberal he most certainly was not.
Apologists for Islam point out that at the time Muhammad was engaged in open
warfare between his own followers and others, like Jews, Christians and pagans,
so picking up on those passages which reveal his closed mind is like
criticizing anti-German propaganda during the Second World War. There's
something to be said for that but the sheer relentlessness of his constant talk
of unbelievers roasting in Hell does suggest someone with issues.
There is a strange, incantatory poetry about some passages and I've little
doubt that Muhammad did have a genuine spiritual experience ("Allah is Nearer
to Man than his Jugular Vein") and he did wish to see a united community at
peace. But it's a dangerous book.
I shall be getting Sam Harris's latest title when it becomes available.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
of a larger 'otherness', outside of rational-conscious experience:
consciousness.
..his father came from a Quaker background.
Harris looks to eastern religion — Buddhism, and more specifically, the
mediation practice of mindfulness — as a way of finding a sense of otherness,
outside of rational-conscious experience.
In this view, he explains, consciousness itself is identical to the very
thing one might otherwise mistake for God.
The main problem, Harris believes, is that the issue is far greater than
simply containing radical ideas from a handful of Muslim extremists.
“If you go and read the Koran, sit back, afterwards, then honestly ask
yourself: what would Muhammad want?” says Harris.
“You can call this idea Islamism, Muslim extremism, Islamic terrorism, but the
main point is this: it’s Islamic to the core. We [in the West] are not at war
with generic extremism. We are at war with a death cult that is animated by a
7th-century approach to Islam.”
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Atheist writer bravely disses Islam.
He seems confused about who the aggressors are in the Israeli conflict though.
Anyone would think that the Palestinians don't have the right to try and get
their land back that was stolen from them in 1948, and more every year since.
World must confront jihadism’s roots in Islamic doctrine, says author
http://www.timesofisrael.com/world-must-confront-jihadisms-roots-in-islamic-doctrine-says-author/
http://www.timesofisrael.com/world-must-confront-jihadisms-roots-in-islamic-doctrine-says-author/
World must confront jihadism’s roots in Islamic d...
http://www.timesofisrael.com/world-must-confront-jihadisms-roots-in-islamic-doctrine-says-author/
With a blend of science and secularism, Jewish-born thinker Sam Harris claims
Islam is uniquely problematic as a religion in today’s world, and anyone who
disag...
View on www.timesofisrael.com
http://www.timesofisrael.com/world-must-confront-jihadisms-roots-in-islamic-doctrine-says-author/
Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Transpiritual Experiences
Thanks for the recommendation. I've always (since I was a teen) had a soft spot for worldviews that suggest there is in reality only One Self which appears to "us" as many separate selves. So the basic plot device in which the division between individuals starts to break down could be a parable hinting at the same philosophy. One of the advantages of visiting FFL is that you do get to hear of offbeat movies that for sure I would never have encountered elsewhere. (As we know, Barry is the prime source. God knows where he learns of those obscure titles he writes about.) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I watched the first episode of "Sense8" by the creators of "The Matrix" and "Babylon 5" on Netflix last night. Probably not for everyone here but it's about 8 people from different places in the world who keep experiencing each others lives. Daryl Hannah really gets around in this one. There's a lot of beautiful cinematography too including scenes shot in San Francisco. All episodes are currently available if you want to binge watch. Bet someone is now.
[FairfieldLife] Jerry Jarvis on the early student's movement
Interviewed by radio host Dennis Draimondi in 2010: - Speaking Freely - 20100527 - Jerry Jarvis | KRUU-LP 100.1 FM http://www.tinyurl.com/pxgto2u http://www.tinyurl.com/pxgto2u - Speaking Freely - 20100527 - Jerry Jarvis | KRUU-LP 10... http://www.tinyurl.com/pxgto2u Artist: draimondi Title: 20100527 - Jerry Jarvis Album: Speaking Freely Genre: Talk Year: 2010 Length: 28:32 minutes (26.13 MB) Format: Mono 44kHz 128Kb... View on www.tinyurl.com http://www.tinyurl.com/pxgto2u Preview by Yahoo Some key points: lectured in 1965 to some students in Redondo or Manhattan Beach and went to a 3 month TTC in 1966 (Rishikesh and Kashmir). Came back in 1966 to start teaching. Says he initiated over 5,000 people after stopping the count. (myself being one of them). ..Mentioned the influence of R. K. Wallace in merging MMY's technique of TM with science; but then after getting to 1966 he started rambling off into how TM can bring fulfillment in all areas of life. ..Charlie Lutes told me that he started the student's movement, not Jerry. However, nobody can doubt the latter's major influence.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Egg Rationing?
SAN ANGELO, Texas - The ground is still moist from recent rains, but the drought is far from over for San Angelo... Water usage up, drought continues http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/local-news/water-usage-up-drought-continues_44638240 http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/local-news/water-usage-up-drought-continues_44638240 Water usage up, drought continues http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/local-news/water-usage-up-drought-continues_44638240 The ground is still moist from recent rains, but the drought is far from over for San Angelo. View on www.gosanangelo.com http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/local-news/water-usage-up-drought-continues_44638240 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : At least, I hear, you no longer have a drought to contend with. I wish the same could be said to California but today is the kind of day people move to California for. It's sunny in the 80's and these days bring a nice vibe with them. But folks are already squabbling over water issues. The Gov, much to his credit, tried to hold back restrictions because I think he knew the state and local bureaucrats would go all authoritarian with them if given the chance. He was probably hoping there would be late rainfall to help but it hasn't happened yet. On 06/06/2015 10:29 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@... mailto:mdixon.6569@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Oh, the humanity of it all! This global warming event of the great egg shortage has caused tremendous devastation to my town of Tomball. The students have bought out all of their allocations of eggs at the local H-E-B grocery store(Three carton limit) in order to egg the local Whataburger for refusal to serve breakfasts with eggs in them due to the egg shortage. Auto paint shops are in fear of a depression and passing by local Yoga classe,s one can hear the chanting of "I Am The Eggman, cookoocajub". When will it all end! From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... mailto:noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 11:36 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Egg Rationing? Apparently so at least in Texas. More "end times" stuff? Is the "Bird Flu" a conspiracy? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/05/the-largest-grocer-in-the-texas-is-now-rationing-eggs/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/05/the-largest-grocer-in-the-texas-is-now-rationing-eggs/ Poor Mikey and Willy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You've made a strawman argument, Xeno. Jim's point, which you have not addressed, was explicit: "The [Yahoo] guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum." There is no unambiguous solution to trolling on FFL, that is correct. This isn't about Yahoo "enforcing" its guidelines, much less about the recent Supreme Court case (which wasn't actually about "free speech"), or any legal issue, for that matter. Nor is it about what may happen on other groups. Trolling isn't illegal, but permitting it degrades the quality of discussion, whether it's by Richard's flooding the forum with idiotic prattle or Barry "pushing buttons" specifically to incite angry reactions. While I consider Richard a troll, I do not consider Barry, you or Jim a troll. Plus which, as Jim has gone on to point out to you, the group setting "not moderated" refers to approving or disapproving messages before they're posted. There is indeed moderation after the fact on FFL in certain very specific situations, as Alex noted (he left out breach of privacy, e.g., outing the real name of a person who wishes to remain anonymous). It's a question of *how much* moderation takes place and on what basis. That is correct. This group lost a significant segment of its regular participants due to unrestrained malicious trolling. They represented a general perspective of which the group is now largely deprived. There's a real sense in which a group does not qualify as a "free speech zone" if those members taking one side of an argument are treated so badly by the other side that they no longer want to participate. Yes people left over what I would consider a stupid point. Remember this group deals with transcendental meditation and those practising this technique are supposed to develop certain qualities such as integration, harmony, discrimination, purposefulness, precision, order, intelligence, infallibility, and other progressive characteristics, so it seems purposeful to test those qualities in people in the group to see if those qualities are really present. About half the people here no longer practise it or practise something else. So, according to the advertisements, those not practising TM any more perhaps should show less of those qualities. This does not seem to be the case however. The main thing missing is invincibility. Those who leave lack invincibility, they have not developed a way to stand their ground. You stood your ground, Barry stood his ground. A lot of the others folded in this environment. It is not as if the weapons here are guns and knives against which invincibility tends not to be very effective. There are really sharp disagreements as to what is and is not real in spirituality. I think it all comes down to criteria for what is considered evidence as to what is real, there are fundamental disagreements about that. You were the lynch pin of the the group you refer to as the 'general perspective' which was typically more tolerant of religious ideas and woo, even though you were actually more critical of many of these ideas than the people who tended to gather around you. When you left, they lost their spokesperson, they were not as aggressive as you and generally less capable of fashioning an argument for response. They rode your coattails, but that is not something you can do if you want to be invincible and want to stand up for a point. Another thing that occurs to me is there is a religion non-religion divide here which breaks down into considerations of whether spirituality is theistic or non-theistic. For example my spiritual inclinations have always been non-theistic. Historically on this planet, divisions between theists and the division between theism and atheism have resulted in some of the worst cases of human behaviour on the planet. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You h
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
More strawmen and faux naivete. If you aren't interested in the topic, why are you commenting at length? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I don't see there is much distinction between a distinction and a 'technical distinction' here. Yes Rick allows trolls, although who is and is not a troll partially depends on whether you like the content or not. Share liked Richard's content, while I think he is a troll. Would be easier to scan through things if Richard was not on the site. Because Rick does not post much, and does not actively moderate the site content, what rule is he breaking? Content by others is not moderated, the guidelines specify self-moderation because Rick choose the hands-off option. Is 'darn' allowed bit not 'damn'? Seems like there is a certain flexibility. Generally I observe people want content that they disagree with to be moderated, so which one is right in a disagreement over this? You do not break a rule because another does. I am not confused. I just do not care what you think about this particular subject. Moderating may require having some personal issues with what people say. If the guidelines were followed slavishly and literally, FFL would be as boring as The Peak usually is. If I were moderating this site, I would only eliminate one poster in the current group. Suppose I was moderating this site, and I made a rule that you had prove beyond a reasonable doubt that God existed before you were allowed to use the word or even the concept and related words on this site (you could publish a scientific paper in Science or Nature, that was accepted by scientists and replicated, that would work). You could talk about spirituality, but you could not use the word, say, 'divine' and others, otherwise you would be eliminated. What would your reaction be? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Surely you aren't as naive as you make yourself out to be, Xeno? Yes, the site is not moderated, but that is only a technical distinction. The Peak is not moderated either, with regard to the group settings. You possibly don't grasp the difference between moderating a site proactively, which is what the Yahoo setting refers to, and consciously breaking the rules here, as Rick does. Rick enables trolls, and that is definitely against the guidelines here. I hope that clears things up. I understand your confusion, as you have yet to run or moderate a forum, but perhaps you could understand the issue better next time, before posting? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content th
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
No, no, I meant names of the people supposedly concerned that they were kicked off FFL. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : These are the currently listed mods: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ffl_mods.jpg http://alex.natel.net/misc/ffl_mods.jpg I don't know what the deal is with the first two. I have vague memories of someone else being a moderator anonymously a long time ago and me looking up his IP address and finding it to be cable or DSL out on the west coast. From my perspective, it's been just me and Rick for a long time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Uh-huh. Let's see some names. (Or *you* moderating?? Have you lost it completely now, or what?) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I ran in to Rick at church this morning. Some here recently were anxiously expressing their concern they were kicked off FFL from positing. Well it wasn't Rick or me moderating or other moderators neither. It might have been Yahoo weighing some of the material as it came through. Certainly there has been a lot of complaint recently. -JaiGuruYou
[FairfieldLife] Re: MMY with Jerry Jarvis
So what happened? These photos show him close by for a number of years in sequence and then he is not there. What would one make of that? Just wondering. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : http://www.tinyurl.com/odprzkv http://www.tinyurl.com/odprzkv . Also shown - numerous "celebrities".
[FairfieldLife] Re: Freedom Summit
"Mr. Walker, whose early surge in national polls has receded, still enjoys a decisive lead in Iowa, thanks to an unflashy style that resonates with Iowans’ Midwestern sensibilities and to an unusual appeal across a wide ideological swath of Republicans." Scott Walker Riding With Joni Ernst in Iowa as Rivals Give Chase http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/us/politics/scott-walker-riding-with-joni-ernst-in-iowa-as-rivals-give-chase.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/us/politics/scott-walker-riding-with-joni-ernst-in-iowa-as-rivals-give-chase.html?_r=0 Scott Walker Riding With Joni Ernst in Iowa as Rivals Gi... http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/us/politics/scott-walker-riding-with-joni-ernst-in-iowa-as-rivals-give-chase.html?_r=0 Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin was ready to mount a motorcycle Saturday for a “Roast and Ride” fund-raiser, but Republican challenges lie ahead. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/us/politics/scott-walker-riding-with-joni-ernst-in-iowa-as-rivals-give-chase.html?_r=0 Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "After his Thursday launch, Perry will head to Iowa, where on Saturday he'll be in the city of Perry to kick off a "Ride with Rick" event that benefits the Puppy Jake Foundation, a non-profit that provides service dogs to wounded veterans." Rick Perry launches comeback bid for White House - CNNPolitics.com http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/rick-perry-2016-presidential-announcement/ http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/rick-perry-2016-presidential-announcement/ Rick Perry launches comeback bid for White Hou... http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/rick-perry-2016-presidential-announcement/ This time, Rick Perry has nowhere to go but up. View on www.cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/rick-perry-2016-presidential-announcement/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : S.C. Senator Lindsey Graham has kicked off his presidential campaign. Lindsey Graham launches 2016 bid http://news.yahoo.com/starting-2016-campaign-graham-blunt-middle-east-071320520--election.html http://news.yahoo.com/starting-2016-campaign-graham-blunt-middle-east-071320520--election.html Lindsey Graham launches 2016 bid http://news.yahoo.com/starting-2016-campaign-graham-blunt-middle-east-071320520--election.html CENTRAL, S.C. (AP) — South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham has kicked off his presidential campaign. View on news.yahoo.com http://news.yahoo.com/starting-2016-campaign-graham-blunt-middle-east-071320520--election.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "She is now seriously questioning the mental health of both of the Clintons." Kathleen Willey: Hillary a ‘money-hungry hypocrite’ http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/kathleen-willey-hillary-a-money-hungry-hypocrite/ http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/kathleen-willey-hillary-a-money-hungry-hypocrite/ Kathleen Willey: Hillary a ‘money-hungry hypocrite’ http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/kathleen-willey-hillary-a-money-hungry-hypocrite/ A Free Press For A Free People Since 1997 View on www.wnd.com http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/kathleen-willey-hillary-a-money-hungry-hypocrite/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "The vast expansion of the spy state and the corresponding erosion of our Constitutional rights has not made America safer." Sen. Rand Paul: I Will Stop the Illegal NSA Spying http://time.com/3902561/sen-rand-paul-tomorrow-i-will-stop-the-illegal-nsa-spying/ http://time.com/3902561/sen-rand-paul-tomorrow-i-will-stop-the-illegal-nsa-spying/ Sen. Rand Paul: I Will Stop the Illegal NSA Spying http://time.com/3902561/sen-rand-paul-tomorrow-i-will-stop-the-illegal-nsa-spying/ "We have all the tools we need to preserve both security and liberty" View on time.com http://time.com/3902561/sen-rand-paul-tomorrow-i-will-stop-the-illegal-nsa-spying/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "Walker is backed by 17 percent as the state enters a busy summer of candidate visits, a planned straw poll, and campaigning at the Iowa State Fair. " Scott Walker Has Early Lead in Iowa Poll as Jeb Bush Faces Challenges http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-30/scott-walker-has-early-lead-in-iowa-poll-as-jeb-bush-faces-challenges http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-30/scott-walker-has-early-lead-in-iowa-poll-as-jeb-bush-faces-challenges Scott Walker Has Early Lead in Iowa Poll as Jeb Bush Fac... http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-30/scott-walker-has-early-lead-in-iowa-poll-as-jeb-bush-faces-challenges Marco Rubio is a popular second choice, a potential indication of strength if he can convert that support to his own. View on www.bloomberg.com http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
I don't see there is much distinction between a distinction and a 'technical distinction' here. Yes Rick allows trolls, although who is and is not a troll partially depends on whether you like the content or not. Share liked Richard's content, while I think he is a troll. Would be easier to scan through things if Richard was not on the site. Because Rick does not post much, and does not actively moderate the site content, what rule is he breaking? Content by others is not moderated, the guidelines specify self-moderation because Rick choose the hands-off option. Is 'darn' allowed bit not 'damn'? Seems like there is a certain flexibility. Generally I observe people want content that they disagree with to be moderated, so which one is right in a disagreement over this? You do not break a rule because another does. I am not confused. I just do not care what you think about this particular subject. Moderating may require having some personal issues with what people say. If the guidelines were followed slavishly and literally, FFL would be as boring as The Peak usually is. If I were moderating this site, I would only eliminate one poster in the current group. Suppose I was moderating this site, and I made a rule that you had prove beyond a reasonable doubt that God existed before you were allowed to use the word or even the concept and related words on this site (you could publish a scientific paper in Science or Nature, that was accepted by scientists and replicated, that would work). You could talk about spirituality, but you could not use the word, say, 'divine' and others, otherwise you would be eliminated. What would your reaction be? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Surely you aren't as naive as you make yourself out to be, Xeno? Yes, the site is not moderated, but that is only a technical distinction. The Peak is not moderated either, with regard to the group settings. You possibly don't grasp the difference between moderating a site proactively, which is what the Yahoo setting refers to, and consciously breaking the rules here, as Rick does. Rick enables trolls, and that is definitely against the guidelines here. I hope that clears things up. I understand your confusion, as you have yet to run or moderate a forum, but perhaps you could understand the issue better next time, before posting? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting
[FairfieldLife] MMY with Jerry Jarvis
http://www.tinyurl.com/odprzkv http://www.tinyurl.com/odprzkv . Also shown - numerous "celebrities".
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
These are the currently listed mods: http://alex.natel.net/misc/ffl_mods.jpg http://alex.natel.net/misc/ffl_mods.jpg I don't know what the deal is with the first two. I have vague memories of someone else being a moderator anonymously a long time ago and me looking up his IP address and finding it to be cable or DSL out on the west coast. From my perspective, it's been just me and Rick for a long time. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Uh-huh. Let's see some names. (Or *you* moderating?? Have you lost it completely now, or what?) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I ran in to Rick at church this morning. Some here recently were anxiously expressing their concern they were kicked off FFL from positing. Well it wasn't Rick or me moderating or other moderators neither. It might have been Yahoo weighing some of the material as it came through. Certainly there has been a lot of complaint recently. -JaiGuruYou
[FairfieldLife] MMY with Helen Lutes & others
Maharishi, Maharishi Photos, Maharishi, Maharishi Photos, Maharishi, Maharishi Yogi, Maharishi http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mmyhl.html http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mmyhl.html Maharishi, Maharishi Photos, Maharishi, Maharishi Photos... http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mmyhl.html Site Contents: Home - In Loving Memory Maharishi Mahesh Yogi w/ Charlie Lutes Maharishi Mahesh Yogi w/ Helen Lutes Maharishi Mahesh Yogi w/ Both Maharis... View on www.maharishiphoto... http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mmyhl.html Preview by Yahoo Website maintained by Vin Daczynski. Also shown in the photos are David and Jessamine Verrill, Walter Koch, and many others. Didn't see Jerry Jarvis' pic but he's probably in there somewhere.
[FairfieldLife] SRM Newsletter, 1967
Spiritual Regeneration Movement-Historic Document http://www.maharishiphotos.com/history1.html http://www.maharishiphotos.com/history1.html Spiritual Regeneration Movement-Historic Document http://www.maharishiphotos.com/history1.html Spiritual Regeneration Movement Historic Newsletter View on www.maharishiphoto... http://www.maharishiphotos.com/history1.html Preview by Yahoo Website maintained by Vin Daczynski
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I think you are saying, "this is better than doing nothing"
is that what you are saying? (-:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
I'm on episode 2. I'm amazed that I'm giving it a chance, because their latest
flick before this ("Jupiter Ascending") has to be one of the biggest piles of
shit I have ever had to wade through.
So far, this one's kept my attention. And I'll probably keep watching, if for
no other reason to see the glimpses the Wachowskis are giving mainstream
America of alternative lifestyles, and to follow the soap opera of how
mainstream America reacts to that.
From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 6:23 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I watched the first episode of "Sense8" by the creators of "The Matrix"
and "Babylon 5" on Netflix last night. Probably not for everyone here
but it's about 8 people from different places in the world who keep
experiencing each others lives. Daryl Hannah really gets around in this
one. There's a lot of beautiful cinematography too including scenes
shot in San Francisco. All episodes are currently available if you want
to binge watch. Bet someone is now.
[FairfieldLife] Culture of Atheism
This may be the current fad in New York or perhaps in Europe. But the basis of this culture is irrational and inconsistent with the current discoveries and theories in physics or cosmology. The Culture of Atheism http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/opinion/sunday/the-culture-of-atheism.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/opinion/sunday/the-culture-of-atheism.html?_r=0 The Culture of Atheism http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/opinion/sunday/the-culture-of-atheism.html?_r=0 Readers react to a Sunday Review article about how secular humanists are gathering together and seeking greater acceptance. View on www.nytimes.com http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/opinion/sunday/the-culture-of-atheism.html?_r=0 Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Uh-huh. Let's see some names. (Or *you* moderating?? Have you lost it completely now, or what?) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I ran in to Rick at church this morning. Some here recently were anxiously expressing their concern they were kicked off FFL from positing. Well it wasn't Rick or me moderating or other moderators neither. It might have been Yahoo weighing some of the material as it came through. Certainly there has been a lot of complaint recently. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You've made a strawman argument, Xeno. Jim's point, which you have not addressed, was explicit: "The [Yahoo] guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum." This isn't about Yahoo "enforcing" its guidelines, much less about the recent Supreme Court case (which wasn't actually about "free speech"), or any legal issue, for that matter. Nor is it about what may happen on other groups. Trolling isn't illegal, but permitting it degrades the quality of discussion, whether it's by Richard's flooding the forum with idiotic prattle or Barry "pushing buttons" specifically to incite angry reactions. Plus which, as Jim has gone on to point out to you, the group setting "not moderated" refers to approving or disapproving messages before they're posted. There is indeed moderation after the fact on FFL in certain very specific situations, as Alex noted (he left out breach of privacy, e.g., outing the real name of a person who wishes to remain anonymous). It's a question of *how much* moderation takes place and on what basis. This group lost a significant segment of its regular participants due to unrestrained malicious trolling. They represented a general perspective of which the group is now largely deprived. There's a real sense in which a group does not qualify as a "free speech zone" if those members taking one side of an argument are treated so badly by the other side that they no longer want to participate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting limit. WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day.
[FairfieldLife] Charlie Lutes meets MMY
From The Himalayas to Hollywood, A Personal Account of Maharishi’s Early Days http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mem1a.html http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mem1a.html From The Himalayas to Hollywood, A Personal Acc... http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mem1a.html From The Himalayas to Hollywood A Personal Account of Maharishi’s Early Days By Charles F. Lutes As Told to Martin Zucker © 2006 Martin Zucker ... View on www.maharishiphoto... http://www.maharishiphotos.com/mem1a.html Preview by Yahoo website maintained by Vin Daczynski
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
Dunno how much redbox movies cost these days but I assure you, it will be a
waste of every penny.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I'll judge for myself at the end of the month when it arrives at Redbox.
Being a Warner Brothers title it won't be on Netflix.
On 06/06/2015 11:22 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
Jesus Christ! If it's as bad as Jupiter Ascending I'll never bother - I
just watched the first 20 minutes of JA last night, and turned it off as I
swore off the Bros forever. The only thing they did that was worth a crap was
the original Matrix followed by the painfully pitiful 2 sequels. Jupiter
Ascending makes David Lynch's films look good by comparison.
From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I'm on episode 2. I'm amazed that I'm giving it a chance, because
their latest flick before this ("Jupiter Ascending") has to be one of the
biggest piles of shit I have ever had to wade through.
So far, this one's kept my attention. And I'll probably keep watching, if for
no other reason to see the glimpses the Wachowskis are giving mainstream
America of alternative lifestyles, and to follow the soap opera of how
mainstream America reacts to that.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 6:23 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I watched the first episode of "Sense8" by the creators of "The
Matrix"
and "Babylon 5" on Netflix last night. Probably not for everyone here
but it's about 8 people from different places in the world who keep
experiencing each others lives. Daryl Hannah really gets around in this
one. There's a lot of beautiful cinematography too including scenes
shot in San Francisco. All episodes are currently available if you want
to binge watch. Bet someone is now.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
I ran in to Rick at church this morning. Some here recently were anxiously expressing their concern they were kicked off FFL from positing. Well it wasn't Rick or me moderating or other moderators neither. It might have been Yahoo weighing some of the material as it came through. Certainly there has been a lot of complaint recently. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You've made a strawman argument, Xeno. Jim's point, which you have not addressed, was explicit: "The [Yahoo] guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum." This isn't about Yahoo "enforcing" its guidelines, much less about the recent Supreme Court case (which wasn't actually about "free speech"), or any legal issue, for that matter. Nor is it about what may happen on other groups. Trolling isn't illegal, but permitting it degrades the quality of discussion, whether it's by Richard's flooding the forum with idiotic prattle or Barry "pushing buttons" specifically to incite angry reactions. Plus which, as Jim has gone on to point out to you, the group setting "not moderated" refers to approving or disapproving messages before they're posted. There is indeed moderation after the fact on FFL in certain very specific situations, as Alex noted (he left out breach of privacy, e.g., outing the real name of a person who wishes to remain anonymous). It's a question of *how much* moderation takes place and on what basis. This group lost a significant segment of its regular participants due to unrestrained malicious trolling. They represented a general perspective of which the group is now largely deprived. There's a real sense in which a group does not qualify as a "free speech zone" if those members taking one side of an argument are treated so badly by the other side that they no longer want to participate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting limit. WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
I have a feeling some of the snarky comments I'm seeing online have been
from homophobes. ;-)
That is certainly possible. For those who are not watching the series, one
character is a lesbian, played well by Jamie Clayton, who is actually a trans
woman herself. Another character plays an actor in Mexico who is known for his
macho action roles, but has to keep the fact that he's gay hidden or lose his
audience.
As for the Wachowskis and their past failures, I have to admit that I'm
actually enjoying this series so far.
On 06/06/2015 09:36 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wrote:
I'm on episode 2. I'm amazed that I'm giving it a chance, because their
latest flick before this ("Jupiter Ascending") has to be one of the biggest
piles of shit I have ever had to wade through.
So far, this one's kept my attention. And I'll probably keep watching, if for
no other reason to see the glimpses the Wachowskis are giving mainstream
America of alternative lifestyles, and to follow the soap opera of how
mainstream America reacts to that.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 6:23 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] ! Transpiritual Experiences
I watched the first episode of "Sense8" by the creators of "The Matrix"
and "Babylon 5" on Netflix last night. Probably not for everyone here
but it's about 8 people from different places in the world who keep
experiencing each others lives. Daryl Hannah really gets around in this
one. There's a lot of beautiful cinematography too including scenes
shot in San Francisco. All episodes are currently available if you want
to binge watch. Bet someone is now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I have a feeling some of the snarky comments I'm seeing online have been
from homophobes. ;-)
On 06/06/2015 09:36 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
*/I'm on episode 2. I'm amazed that I'm giving it a chance, because
their latest flick before this ("Jupiter Ascending") has to be one of
the biggest piles of shit I have ever had to wade through.
/*
*/
/*
*/So far, this one's kept my attention. And I'll probably keep
watching, if for no other reason to see the glimpses the Wachowskis
are giving mainstream America of alternative lifestyles, and to follow
the soap opera of how mainstream America reacts to that.
/*
*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
*Sent:* Saturday, June 6, 2015 6:23 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] ! Transpiritual Experiences
I watched the first episode of "Sense8" by the creators of "The Matrix"
and "Babylon 5" on Netflix last night. Probably not for everyone here
but it's about 8 people from different places in the world who keep
experiencing each others lives. Daryl Hannah really gets around in this
one. There's a lot of beautiful cinematography too including scenes
shot in San Francisco. All episodes are currently available if you want
to binge watch. Bet someone is now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Egg Rationing?
At least, I hear, you no longer have a drought to contend with. I wish the same could be said to California but today is the kind of day people move to California for. It's sunny in the 80's and these days bring a nice vibe with them. But folks are already squabbling over water issues. The Gov, much to his credit, tried to hold back restrictions because I think he knew the state and local bureaucrats would go all authoritarian with them if given the chance. He was probably hoping there would be late rainfall to help but it hasn't happened yet. On 06/06/2015 10:29 AM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Oh, the humanity of it all! This global warming event of the great egg shortage has caused tremendous devastation to my town of Tomball. The students have bought out all of their allocations of eggs at the local H-E-B grocery store(Three carton limit) in order to egg the local Whataburger for refusal to serve breakfasts with eggs in them due to the egg shortage. Auto paint shops are in fear of a depression and passing by local Yoga classe,s one can hear the chanting of "I Am The Eggman, cookoocajub". When will it all end! *From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]" *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, June 6, 2015 11:36 AM *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Egg Rationing? Apparently so at least in Texas. More "end times" stuff? Is the "Bird Flu" a conspiracy? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/05/the-largest-grocer-in-the-texas-is-now-rationing-eggs/ Poor Mikey and Willy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I'll judge for myself at the end of the month when it arrives at
Redbox. Being a Warner Brothers title it won't be on Netflix.
On 06/06/2015 11:22 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] wrote:
Jesus Christ! If it's as bad as Jupiter Ascending I'll never bother -
I just watched the first 20 minutes of JA last night, and turned it
off as I swore off the Bros forever. The only thing they did that was
worth a crap was the original Matrix followed by the painfully pitiful
2 sequels. Jupiter Ascending makes David Lynch's films look good by
comparison.
*From:* "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
*Sent:* Saturday, June 6, 2015 12:36 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
*/I'm on episode 2. I'm amazed that I'm giving it a chance, because
their latest flick before this ("Jupiter Ascending") has to be one of
the biggest piles of shit I have ever had to wade through.
/*
*/
/*
*/So far, this one's kept my attention. And I'll probably keep
watching, if for no other reason to see the glimpses the Wachowskis
are giving mainstream America of alternative lifestyles, and to follow
the soap opera of how mainstream America reacts to that.
/*
*From:* "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
*To:* "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
*Sent:* Saturday, June 6, 2015 6:23 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I watched the first episode of "Sense8" by the creators of "The Matrix"
and "Babylon 5" on Netflix last night. Probably not for everyone here
but it's about 8 people from different places in the world who keep
experiencing each others lives. Daryl Hannah really gets around in this
one. There's a lot of beautiful cinematography too including scenes
shot in San Francisco. All episodes are currently available if you want
to binge watch. Bet someone is now.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Live From Austin
Willie Nelson - Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain (Live From Austin TX) https://youtu.be/H7vaYOIKWYY https://youtu.be/H7vaYOIKWYY Willie Nelson - Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain (Live Fr... https://youtu.be/H7vaYOIKWYY "Blue Eyes Crying In The Rain" from Willie Nelson's Live From Austin Texas performance. Buy it today on Amazon http://amzn.to/1dL5tyz or iTunes http:/... View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/H7vaYOIKWYY Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Stevie Ray Vaughan and The Fabulous Thunderbirds - Tough Enough (Live) https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ Stevie Ray Vaughan and The Fabulous Thunderbirds - T... https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Eric Clapton/Jimmy Vaughan/Robert Cray-Six Strings Down http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA Eric Clapton/Jimmy Vaughan/Robert Cray-Six St... http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA Rock On View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The dB's - That Time Is Gone - 3/15/2012 - Outdoor Stage On Sixth https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g The dB's - That Time Is Gone - 3/15/2012 - Outdoor S... https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g The dB's - That Time Is Gone Recorded Live: 3/15/2012 - Outdoor Stage On Sixth (Austin,TX) Subscribe to Paste on YouTube: http://goo.gl/AU2nKB Visit P... View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : John Fogerty (Live 2004): The Old Man down the Road http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ John Fogerty (Live 2004): The Old Man down the Road http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
Jupiter Ascending (2015) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1617661/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1617661/
Jupiter Ascending (2015) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1617661/ Directed by Andy
Wachowski, Lana Wachowski. With Channing Tatum, Mila Kunis, Eddie Redmayne,
Sean Bean. A young woman discovers her destiny as ...
View on www.imdb.com http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1617661/
Preview by Yahoo
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Jesus Christ! If it's as bad as Jupiter Ascending I'll never bother - I just
watched the first 20 minutes of JA last night, and turned it off as I swore off
the Bros forever. The only thing they did that was worth a crap was the
original Matrix followed by the painfully pitiful 2 sequels. Jupiter Ascending
makes David Lynch's films look good by comparison.
From: "TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I'm on episode 2. I'm amazed that I'm giving it a chance, because their latest
flick before this ("Jupiter Ascending") has to be one of the biggest piles of
shit I have ever had to wade through.
So far, this one's kept my attention. And I'll probably keep watching, if for
no other reason to see the glimpses the Wachowskis are giving mainstream
America of alternative lifestyles, and to follow the soap opera of how
mainstream America reacts to that.
From: "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 6:23 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I watched the first episode of "Sense8" by the creators of "The Matrix"
and "Babylon 5" on Netflix last night. Probably not for everyone here
but it's about 8 people from different places in the world who keep
experiencing each others lives. Daryl Hannah really gets around in this
one. There's a lot of beautiful cinematography too including scenes
shot in San Francisco. All episodes are currently available if you want
to binge watch. Bet someone is now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
So, it's all about Richard. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You've made a strawman argument, Xeno. Jim's point, which you have not addressed, was explicit: "The [Yahoo] guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum." This isn't about Yahoo "enforcing" its guidelines, much less about the recent Supreme Court case (which wasn't actually about "free speech"), or any legal issue, for that matter. Nor is it about what may happen on other groups. Trolling isn't illegal, but permitting it degrades the quality of discussion, whether it's by Richard's flooding the forum with idiotic prattle or Barry "pushing buttons" specifically to incite angry reactions. So, why can't I post idiotic prattle? It's not fair. LoL! Plus which, as Jim has gone on to point out to you, the group setting "not moderated" refers to approving or disapproving messages before they're posted. There is indeed moderation after the fact on FFL in certain very specific situations, as Alex noted (he left out breach of privacy, e.g., outing the real name of a person who wishes to remain anonymous). It's a question of *how much* moderation takes place and on what basis. This group lost a significant segment of its regular participants due to unrestrained malicious trolling. They represented a general perspective of which the group is now largely deprived. There's a real sense in which a group does not qualify as a "free speech zone" if those members taking one side of an argument are treated so badly by the other side that they no longer want to participate. Now this is ironic - I've probably been treated as badly as anyone subscribing to this group. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting limit. WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
You've made a strawman argument, Xeno. Jim's point, which you have not addressed, was explicit: "The [Yahoo] guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum." This isn't about Yahoo "enforcing" its guidelines, much less about the recent Supreme Court case (which wasn't actually about "free speech"), or any legal issue, for that matter. Nor is it about what may happen on other groups. Trolling isn't illegal, but permitting it degrades the quality of discussion, whether it's by Richard's flooding the forum with idiotic prattle or Barry "pushing buttons" specifically to incite angry reactions. Plus which, as Jim has gone on to point out to you, the group setting "not moderated" refers to approving or disapproving messages before they're posted. There is indeed moderation after the fact on FFL in certain very specific situations, as Alex noted (he left out breach of privacy, e.g., outing the real name of a person who wishes to remain anonymous). It's a question of *how much* moderation takes place and on what basis. This group lost a significant segment of its regular participants due to unrestrained malicious trolling. They represented a general perspective of which the group is now largely deprived. There's a real sense in which a group does not qualify as a "free speech zone" if those members taking one side of an argument are treated so badly by the other side that they no longer want to participate. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting limit. WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
Jesus Christ! If it's as bad as Jupiter Ascending I'll never bother - I just
watched the first 20 minutes of JA last night, and turned it off as I swore off
the Bros forever. The only thing they did that was worth a crap was the
original Matrix followed by the painfully pitiful 2 sequels. Jupiter Ascending
makes David Lynch's films look good by comparison.
From: "TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I'm on episode 2. I'm amazed that I'm giving it a chance, because their
latest flick before this ("Jupiter Ascending") has to be one of the biggest
piles of shit I have ever had to wade through.
So far, this one's kept my attention. And I'll probably keep watching, if for
no other reason to see the glimpses the Wachowskis are giving mainstream
America of alternative lifestyles, and to follow the soap opera of how
mainstream America reacts to that.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 6:23 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I watched the first episode of "Sense8" by the creators of "The Matrix"
and "Babylon 5" on Netflix last night. Probably not for everyone here
but it's about 8 people from different places in the world who keep
experiencing each others lives. Daryl Hannah really gets around in this
one. There's a lot of beautiful cinematography too including scenes
shot in San Francisco. All episodes are currently available if you want
to binge watch. Bet someone is now.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
We should set the scene: a smoke-filled and dark cafe full of guys drinking beer and watching sports on TV, speaking different languages and talking at the same time. A skin-head lone expat wearing a black T-shirt sitting at a table in back, peering into his laptop computer and then jumping up and shouting "Yes!" after he hits the Send button. Twin Peaks https://youtu.be/Vo8jvPCyJQo https://youtu.be/Vo8jvPCyJQo Twin Peaks https://youtu.be/Vo8jvPCyJQo Cooper's dream scene David Bowie View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/Vo8jvPCyJQo Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Interpol Special Agent Smith: “Have you considered, Mr. Wright, withdrawing from this group, where dissension and disagreement appear to be the main content?” Barry Wright: “Agent Smith, let me be clear. This is an art form I helped create. I am IT #17, that is, Internet Troll #17, and it is a badge I carry proudly. Hooyah!” ISAS: “Well, then, I guess it shouldn't be a surprise if your “contributions” spark a certain degree of push back.” BW: “Damn Straight, they do. I hit 'em with my right, I hit with my left. You know I was a black belt back in my days with that Rama Guy. Did I ever tell you about my time with Zen Master Rama” ISAS: “Whoa, whoa, hold on little sheba. Let's try to stay on point here.” BW: “Darn! Okay.” ISAS: “Having taken a look at what you call your “content” it appears that you thrive on keeping the level of discord at a pretty high level. I'm going to mark this case closed. If you have any other complaints, we'll take a look at them.” BW: Okay, Special Agent. Listen, you can always reach me at any one of the sidewalk cafes that dot the canal from here in Leiden. If I'm not in the first one you check, just go down the line. I'll try to have an autographed copy of my novel, “Road Trip” I can offer it to you for only 20 euros. Great talkin' with ya, ISAS.
[FairfieldLife] Re: We Were There
Friday at X: Skateboard Big Air http://espn.go.com/espn/photos/gallery/_/id/13022316/image/1/the-boys-big-air-x-games-austin-2015-skateboard-big-air http://espn.go.com/espn/photos/gallery/_/id/13022316/image/1/the-boys-big-air-x-games-austin-2015-skateboard-big-air Friday at X: Skateboard Big Air http://espn.go.com/espn/photos/gallery/_/id/13022316/image/1/the-boys-big-air-x-games-austin-2015-skateboard-big-air America's Navy Skateboard Big Air closed down an action-packed Friday night on Day 2 of X Games Austin 2015. Of the 10 competitors -- four of them teenagers -- ... View on espn.go.com http://espn.go.com/espn/photos/gallery/_/id/13022316/image/1/the-boys-big-air-x-games-austin-2015-skateboard-big-air Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : At the Circuit of the Americas: http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg View on www.rwilliams.us http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg Preview by Yahoo X Games - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Games http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Games X Games - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Games The X Games is an annual sports event, controlled and arranged by American sports broadcaster ESPN (with coverage also shown on its sister network ABC),... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Games Preview by Yahoo X Games Austin 2015 tickets, schedules, results, athletes, preview content and more -- June 4-7 http://xgames.espn.go.com/xgames/austin/ http://xgames.espn.go.com/xgames/austin/ X Games Austin 2015 tickets, schedules, results, athlete... http://xgames.espn.go.com/xgames/austin/ X Games Austin 2015 tickets, schedules, results, athletes, preview content and more -- June 4-7 View on xgames.espn.go.com http://xgames.espn.go.com/xgames/austin/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Egg Rationing?
Putting Theraflu in my birdfeeders today.
From: "rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 12:40 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Egg Rationing?
Good Question: How Can Humans Catch The Bird Flu?
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The Centers for Disease Control issued another warning Wednesday to doctors and
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Apparently so at least in Texas. More "end times" stuff? Is the "Bird
Flu" a conspiracy?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/05/the-largest-grocer-in-the-texas-is-now-rationing-eggs/
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Interpol Special Agent Smith: “Have you considered, Mr. Wright, withdrawing from this group, where dissension and disagreement appear to be the main content?” Barry Wright: “Agent Smith, let me be clear. This is an art form I helped create. I am IT #17, that is, Internet Troll #17, and it is a badge I carry proudly. Hooyah!” ISAS: “Well, then, I guess it shouldn't be a surprise if your “contributions” spark a certain degree of push back.” BW: “Damn Straight, they do. I hit 'em with my right, I hit with my left. You know I was a black belt back in my days with that Rama Guy. Did I ever tell you about my time with Zen Master Rama” ISAS: “Whoa, whoa, hold on little sheba. Let's try to stay on point here.” BW: “Darn! Okay.” ISAS: “Having taken a look at what you call your “content” it appears that you thrive on keeping the level of discord at a pretty high level. I'm going to mark this case closed. If you have any other complaints, we'll take a look at them.” BW: Okay, Special Agent. Listen, you can always reach me at any one of the sidewalk cafes that dot the canal from here in Leiden. If I'm not in the first one you check, just go down the line. I'll try to have an autographed copy of my novel, “Road Trip” I can offer it to you for only 20 euros. Great talkin' with ya, ISAS.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Egg Rationing?
Good Question: How Can Humans Catch The Bird Flu? http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/06/04/good-question-how-can-humans-catch-the-bird-flu/ http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/06/04/good-question-how-can-humans-catch-the-bird-flu/ Good Question: How Can Humans Catch The Bird Flu? http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/06/04/good-question-how-can-humans-catch-the-bird-flu/ The Centers for Disease Control issued another warning Wednesday to doctors and health officials: be on the lookout for people infected with avian flu. Minnesot... View on minnesota.cbslocal... http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/06/04/good-question-how-can-humans-catch-the-bird-flu/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Apparently so at least in Texas. More "end times" stuff? Is the "Bird Flu" a conspiracy? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/05/the-largest-grocer-in-the-texas-is-now-rationing-eggs/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/05/the-largest-grocer-in-the-texas-is-now-rationing-eggs/ Poor Mikey and Willy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Egg Rationing?
Oh, the humanity of it all! This global warming event of the great egg shortage
has caused tremendous devastation to my town of Tomball. The students have
bought out all of their allocations of eggs at the local H-E-B grocery
store(Three carton limit) in order to egg the local Whataburger for refusal to
serve breakfasts with eggs in them due to the egg shortage. Auto paint shops
are in fear of a depression and passing by local Yoga classe,s one can hear the
chanting of "I Am The Eggman, cookoocajub". When will it all end!
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 11:36 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Egg Rationing?
Apparently so at least in Texas. More "end times" stuff? Is the "Bird
Flu" a conspiracy?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/05/the-largest-grocer-in-the-texas-is-now-rationing-eggs/
Poor Mikey and Willy.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Surely you aren't as naive as you make yourself out to be, Xeno? Yes, the site is not moderated, but that is only a technical distinction. The Peak is not moderated either, with regard to the group settings. You possibly don't grasp the difference between moderating a site proactively, which is what the Yahoo setting refers to, and consciously breaking the rules here, as Rick does. Rick enables trolls, and that is definitely against the guidelines here. I hope that clears things up. I understand your confusion, as you have yet to run or moderate a forum, but perhaps you could understand the issue better next time, before posting? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting limit. WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time (wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander plays as moderator. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this point. I thought you left? Left to start a group with moderation? Why not stay there if you can't cope with being here? Why the endless whining? Is it some sort of denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Are you on some sort of mission to save us from ourselves? You are the irritating troll, do you understand? You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Go away. Nothing is going to change here because we like chatting and having fun. Go away and stop spoiling it. You and your mates are
Re: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I'm on episode 2. I'm amazed that I'm giving it a chance, because their latest
flick before this ("Jupiter Ascending") has to be one of the biggest piles of
shit I have ever had to wade through.
So far, this one's kept my attention. And I'll probably keep watching, if for
no other reason to see the glimpses the Wachowskis are giving mainstream
America of alternative lifestyles, and to follow the soap opera of how
mainstream America reacts to that.
From: "Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]"
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 6:23 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I watched the first episode of "Sense8" by the creators of "The Matrix"
and "Babylon 5" on Netflix last night. Probably not for everyone here
but it's about 8 people from different places in the world who keep
experiencing each others lives. Daryl Hannah really gets around in this
one. There's a lot of beautiful cinematography too including scenes
shot in San Francisco. All episodes are currently available if you want
to binge watch. Bet someone is now.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Re: "The above rant was after my weekly look at a post by one of the non-contributors here." Trying to save face? Feeling emotional still? Every post is a contribution of some sort. Have you not yet figured out that on a public forum structured such as this, one cannot say the words "Go away", as if one is a genie in a bottle or more aptly, behaving like a small and petulant child, and expect it to come true. Are you familiar with the story of Peter Pan? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: salyavin808 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this point. I thought you left? Left to start a group with moderation? Why not stay there if you can't cope with being here? Why the endless whining? Is it some sort of denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Are you on some sort of mission to save us from ourselves? You are the irritating troll, do you understand? You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Go away. Nothing is going to change here because we like chatting and having fun. Go away and stop spoiling it. You and your mates are tedious beyond words. Go away. You are the trolls. Go away. If you look into it, Sal, the real story is that Jim and other haters over on The_Leak are engaging in a form of "state sponsored terrorism." Not only do their members constantly come over to our group to *intentionally* disrupt ongoing discussions and do whatever they can think of to harm the well-being of people (us) who just want to be left alone to discuss the kinds of things this forum was created *to* discuss, they are *encouraged* by Jim and others back on The_Leak every time they do so. A quick perusal of the posts over on The_Leak will reveal how many times people like Jim, Richard, Steve, and others have been given a big "attaboy" and PRAISED for going over to FFL to disrupt things. Sure sounds a lot like the Internet counterpart of state-sponsored terrorism to me. NO ONE from FFL does the same thing over on The_Leak. The only former FFLer I know who contributes to that forum but who still primarily hangs on FFL is Anartaxius, and when he contributes over on The_Leak he actually *contributes*. Compare and contrast to Richard, Jim, Steve, and now Judy. She may not post over on The_Leak, but she's clearly on their payroll. The above rant was after my weekly look at a post by one of the non-contributors here. What they get out of it, I have no idea. How odd that they approve of people doing things here that they wouldn't be allowed to do there! I shall return to ignoring them as it's all too tedious and childish for words.
[FairfieldLife] Egg Rationing?
Apparently so at least in Texas. More "end times" stuff? Is the "Bird Flu" a conspiracy? http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/06/05/the-largest-grocer-in-the-texas-is-now-rationing-eggs/ Poor Mikey and Willy.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
On 06/06/2015 08:41 AM, anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. Yeah, try the Jyotish Yahoo groups where Indians jyotishis passionately argue with each other. It's like a street brawl in Mumbai. Comparatively FFL is very tame. OTOH fact over the last couple of years I've been watching the Internet degenerate and FFL is no exception. Most likely what astrology is *really* about is energy storms we have no control over that influence minds of beings on earth. The only escape from those is enlightenment otherwise folks don't even realize what is happening to them. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex! , before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting limit. WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy making colloidal silver and co! oking meat at low temps for a loong time (wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander plays as moderator. *From:* salyavin808 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this point. I thought you left? Left to start a group with moderation? Why not stay there if you can't cope with being here? Why the endless whining? Is it some sort of denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Are you on some sort of mission to save us from ourselves? You are the irritating troll, do you understand? You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Go away. Nothing is going to change here because we like chatting and having fun. Go away and stop spoiling it. You and your mates are tedious beyond words. Go away. You are the tro
[FairfieldLife] Transpiritual Experiences
I watched the first episode of "Sense8" by the creators of "The Matrix" and "Babylon 5" on Netflix last night. Probably not for everyone here but it's about 8 people from different places in the world who keep experiencing each others lives. Daryl Hannah really gets around in this one. There's a lot of beautiful cinematography too including scenes shot in San Francisco. All episodes are currently available if you want to binge watch. Bet someone is now.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
It is for Yahoo to enforce guidelines, not Rick. According to the Fairfield Life home page, it says specifically in the group settings that 'messages are not moderated'. The choice to moderate content or not is left to the group administrator, and this is a choice Rick has made according to the way Yahoo set up the site. So Alex's job description here does not include moderating the content of the messages either. Yahoo made the guidelines and it is their responsibility if there is a responsibility here, since they also made the option to not moderate content available to the group administrator. The question to ask is why are you still here complaining about it? Your complaints are directed to the wrong people. Yahoo in fact might have far less leeway in enforcing guidelines after the recent supreme court decision concerning on-line free speech. You have your own content-moderated group by choice, so what is drawing you to a place you clearly SAY you do not like? This is insane behaviour. You have obviously not looked at some of the other so-called 'spiritual' groups on Yahoo and other places where similar ideological battles take place. Some get overrun with spam. Quite a lot simply die from lack of interest. Quite a lot of them hide messages from non-members so you cannot see what it is really about without joining. Some are moderated by their administrators, and some are not. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Alex, before you and Rick sprain your wrists patting yourselves on the back for creating a "free speech zone", you must be aware that, contrary to the thousands of forums on Yahoo Groups, yours is not in compliance with the guidelines. Nothing to be proud of. The guidelines are not arbitrary. They are put in place to foster discussion, about anything. If you and Rick decide hands off, there is no unambiguous solution to trolling on this forum. That is why the majority of the forums, mine included, adhere to the guidelines set out by Yahoo Groups. Rick's and yours don't, and that is no occasion for congratulations. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks. From the very start, FFL was intended as a free speech zone. When Rick asked me to be a moderator, the job description was to handle subscriptions, keep out spammers, and make sure there's no porn or other content that would get FFL categorized as an adult group, where it would be much less visible on the 'net. For a time, I was also tasked with enforcing the moronic posting limit. WRT colloidal silver, I would only add that it should not be taken on a regular basis, and even at 20 PPM, no more than 6oz should be taken per day. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : J Alexander Stanley is supposed to be the moderator, but he mostly is busy making colloidal silver and cooking meat at low temps for a loong time (wish I had some now). Personally I like his post on what he cooks better than I would any moderation stuff. And I appreciated him giving me the info on his silver maker. So thus far, I am quite pleased at the moderate role J Alexander plays as moderator. From: salyavin808 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this point. I thought you left? Left to start a group with moderation? Why not stay there if you can't cope with being here? Why the endless whining? Is it some sort of denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Are you on some sort of mission to save us from ourselves? You are the irritating troll, do you understand? You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Go away. Nothing is going to change here because we like chatting and having fun. Go away and stop spoiling it. You and your mates are tedious beyond words. Go away. You are the trolls. Go away. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : It is true the original post by Turqb was the meme of a slur in violation of the Yahoo-groups guidelines and should have been moderated simply then by the group owner. Moderation is simple to do, either ask someone to withdraw/delete such a post themselves or a moderator remove it and suspend the perp's membership posting privilege. Either-or. Ask the person for some self-restraint and if they don't come right through then clip their membership privilege. The Yahoo-groups guidelines are quite reasonable. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.co
[FairfieldLife] We Were There
At the Circuit of the Americas: http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg View on www.rwilliams.us http://www.rwilliams.us/archives/images/coda.jpg Preview by Yahoo X Games - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Games http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Games X Games - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Games The X Games is an annual sports event, controlled and arranged by American sports broadcaster ESPN (with coverage also shown on its sister network ABC),... View on en.wikipedia.org http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Games Preview by Yahoo X Games Austin 2015 tickets, schedules, results, athletes, preview content and more -- June 4-7 http://xgames.espn.go.com/xgames/austin/ http://xgames.espn.go.com/xgames/austin/ X Games Austin 2015 tickets, schedules, results, athlete... http://xgames.espn.go.com/xgames/austin/ X Games Austin 2015 tickets, schedules, results, athletes, preview content and more -- June 4-7 View on xgames.espn.go.com http://xgames.espn.go.com/xgames/austin/ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~ Case-Studies, about TMO friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~
"informants, big shots, insiders", Moi? LOL! From: "rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~ Case-Studies, about TMO friendship ~~~ I'm just saying that the "TMO" is just an acronym made up by some informants to make themselves look like big shots, posing as someone who was once an insider in Maharishi's bedroom. It's a fantasy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So are you saying TMO is an Oxymoron? I find it a wicked organization with good intentions. In reality, the movement is splintered into dozens of factions all over the planet. And for the last 20 years of his life, nobody got inside MMY's front door. There is probably only two people that got up real close to MMY - Jemima Pittman. There are five real movement insiders posting here that live a mile from the campus, and even they don't seem to know what is going on with the movement these days. Go figure. From: "richard@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~ Case-Studies, about TMO friendship ~~~ First of all, there's no "TMO" - if there was we would have a world-wide org to manage the movement. Second, nobody should depend on an org to make them enlightenment in 1 or 2, pr even 5-7 years. As far as "TMO" status claims, that should be easy to check. There is only one infromant on FFL that, so far, has been able to prove that he or she ever initied anyone into TM. Go figure. Quoting "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" : > “I have many points of contention with the TMO, and where the TMO > failed me, I found other resources.” -Anartaxius FFL 413787 > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : > > “Don't forget that many who might have not been so disenchanted with > the TMO 15 years ago are now. For some it's a gradual process and > for other happened decades ago.” -Bhairitu FFL #413779 > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : > > Thanks, interesting about Beal. Dixon raises an interesting point > below in that sometimes our poor experience with something is just > around a poor personality character, evidently like yours once with > your supervisor at MIU at a time. Hard to know or speculate about > this Beal obit from a distance. In Fairfield, Ia. we have had a > series of open meetings as discussions and communal trainings this > last year both in town and on campus speaking to depression and > suicide awareness as communal mental health trainings. Depression and > suicide are problems everywhere and yet in our organization and > movement communities certainly we have our peculiar cultural aspects > with it in character. .. Communal work 'in progress' mitigating those > aspects. -JaiGuruYou! > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : > > Bruce Beal: > > > Bruce Murray Beal - The Ellsworth American > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal > > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal > > > > > > Bruce Murray Beal - The Ellsworth American > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal BAR > HARBOR — Bruce Murray Beal, 55, died unexpectedly on Feb. 9, 2010, in > Massachusetts. Bruce was born on Oct. 29, 1954 in New York. He grew > up in Bar Harbo... > > > > View on www.ellsworthamerica... > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal > Preview by Yahoo > > > > > > From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:39 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~ Case-Studies about TMO friendship > ~~~ > > > > Culturally, for you when did the movement change? > More case-studies.. > > Mdixon writes: I've never been kicked out or disciplined by the TMO, > I still get weekly notifications of group Meditations and seasonal > celebrations from the local center. However, because I find the > *organization* so FUBAR, for my own peace of mind, I choose to keep > my distance from it, otherwise I would get kicked out. Quite frankly, > I find the TMO to be the antithesis of what it claims TM does for the > individual. It's not efficient, creative or compassionate. That is a > façade. I've found TM leaders to be spiritual bullies and power > trippers. "Oh Maharishi wouldn't want that" (I know because I'm in > perfect tune with his thinking). I find them lazy(oh Nature will > organize that) and their fragile little egos get offended easily if > you offer constructive criticism or a better idea (oh, you're just > being negative). Don't rain on my parade attitude. I Like TM and > think of the results in longer terms and I love Maharishi, although I > realized he is just a man with human faults and not the God I once > seemed to worship as. As for the TMO, I find it to be an > embarrassment. I think the straw that broke the camel's b
[FairfieldLife] Re: Live From Austin
Stevie Ray Vaughan Corssfire Live From Austin Texas 1080P https://youtu.be/7oK40sPa3SU https://youtu.be/7oK40sPa3SU Stevie Ray Vaughan Corssfire Live From Austin Texas 108... https://youtu.be/7oK40sPa3SU From the DVD "Live From Austin Texas" These video uploads are completely nonprofit, no copyright infringement intended. The intention is rather to enc... View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/7oK40sPa3SU Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Stevie Ray Vaughan And Double Trouble 'One Night In Texas' Live 1989 https://youtu.be/LyVI25osbkk https://youtu.be/LyVI25osbkk Stevie Ray Vaughan And Double Trouble 'One Night I... https://youtu.be/LyVI25osbkk May I Have A Talk With You Mary Had A Little Lamb Look At Little Sister Couldn't Stand The Weather Voodoo Chile (Slight Return) JOIN QUIZGROUP PARTNER... View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/LyVI25osbkk Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Texas Tornadoes https://youtu.be/lbwwoSMgM3g https://youtu.be/lbwwoSMgM3g The Texas Tornadoes https://youtu.be/lbwwoSMgM3g Texas Saturday Night at Gruene Hall Freddy Fender, Doug Sahm, Augie Myers, Flaco Jimenez View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/lbwwoSMgM3g Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Doug Sahm - "Nuevo Laredo" https://youtu.be/wb0yHJOOU-U https://youtu.be/wb0yHJOOU-U Doug Sahm - "Nuevo Laredo" https://youtu.be/wb0yHJOOU-U | Live from Austin TX 1975 View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/wb0yHJOOU-U Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Stevie Ray Vaughan and The Fabulous Thunderbirds - Tough Enough (Live) https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ Stevie Ray Vaughan and The Fabulous Thunderbirds - T... https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Eric Clapton/Jimmy Vaughan/Robert Cray-Six Strings Down http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA Eric Clapton/Jimmy Vaughan/Robert Cray-Six St... http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA Rock On View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The dB's - That Time Is Gone - 3/15/2012 - Outdoor Stage On Sixth https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g The dB's - That Time Is Gone - 3/15/2012 - Outdoor S... https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g The dB's - That Time Is Gone Recorded Live: 3/15/2012 - Outdoor Stage On Sixth (Austin,TX) Subscribe to Paste on YouTube: http://goo.gl/AU2nKB Visit P... View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : John Fogerty (Live 2004): The Old Man down the Road http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ John Fogerty (Live 2004): The Old Man down the Road http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ Preview by Yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~ Case-Studies, about TMO friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~
I'm just saying that the "TMO" is just an acronym made up by some informants to make themselves look like big shots, posing as someone who was once an insider in Maharishi's bedroom. It's a fantasy. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : So are you saying TMO is an Oxymoron? I find it a wicked organization with good intentions. In reality, the movement is splintered into dozens of factions all over the planet. And for the last 20 years of his life, nobody got inside MMY's front door. There is probably only two people that got up real close to MMY - Jemima Pittman. There are five real movement insiders posting here that live a mile from the campus, and even they don't seem to know what is going on with the movement these days. Go figure. From: "richard@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~ Case-Studies, about TMO friendship ~~~ First of all, there's no "TMO" - if there was we would have a world-wide org to manage the movement. Second, nobody should depend on an org to make them enlightenment in 1 or 2, pr even 5-7 years. As far as "TMO" status claims, that should be easy to check. There is only one infromant on FFL that, so far, has been able to prove that he or she ever initied anyone into TM. Go figure. Quoting "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>: > “I have many points of contention with the TMO, and where the TMO > failed me, I found other resources.” -Anartaxius FFL 413787 > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > wrote : > > “Don't forget that many who might have not been so disenchanted with > the TMO 15 years ago are now. For some it's a gradual process and > for other happened decades ago.” -Bhairitu FFL #413779 > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > wrote : > > Thanks, interesting about Beal. Dixon raises an interesting point > below in that sometimes our poor experience with something is just > around a poor personality character, evidently like yours once with > your supervisor at MIU at a time. Hard to know or speculate about > this Beal obit from a distance. In Fairfield, Ia. we have had a > series of open meetings as discussions and communal trainings this > last year both in town and on campus speaking to depression and > suicide awareness as communal mental health trainings. Depression and > suicide are problems everywhere and yet in our organization and > movement communities certainly we have our peculiar cultural aspects > with it in character. .. Communal work 'in progress' mitigating those > aspects. -JaiGuruYou! > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > wrote : > > Bruce Beal: > > > Bruce Murray Beal - The Ellsworth American > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal > > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal > > > > > > Bruce Murray Beal - The Ellsworth American > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal BAR > HARBOR — Bruce Murray Beal, 55, died unexpectedly on Feb. 9, 2010, in > Massachusetts. Bruce was born on Oct. 29, 1954 in New York. He grew > up in Bar Harbo... > > > > View on www.ellsworthamerica http://www.ellsworthamerica/... > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal > Preview by Yahoo > > > > > > From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:39 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~ Case-Studies about TMO friendship > ~~~ > > > > Culturally, for you when did the movement change? > More case-studies.. > > Mdixon writes: I've never been kicked out or disciplined by the TMO, > I still get weekly notifications of group Meditations and seasonal > celebrations from the local center. However, because I find the > *organization* so FUBAR, for my own peace of mind, I choose to keep > my distance from it, otherwise I would get kicked out. Quite frankly, > I find the TMO to be the antithesis of what it claims TM does for the > individual. It's not efficient, creative or compassionate. That is a > façade. I've found TM leaders to be spiritual bullies and power > trippers. "Oh Maharishi wouldn't want that" (I know because I'm in > perfect tune with his thinking). I find them lazy(oh Nature will > organize that) and their fragile little egos get offended easily if > you offer constructive criticism o
[FairfieldLife] Re: Live From Austin
Stevie Ray Vaughan And Double Trouble 'One Night In Texas' Live 1989 https://youtu.be/LyVI25osbkk https://youtu.be/LyVI25osbkk Stevie Ray Vaughan And Double Trouble 'One Night I... https://youtu.be/LyVI25osbkk May I Have A Talk With You Mary Had A Little Lamb Look At Little Sister Couldn't Stand The Weather Voodoo Chile (Slight Return) JOIN QUIZGROUP PARTNER... View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/LyVI25osbkk Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Texas Tornadoes https://youtu.be/lbwwoSMgM3g https://youtu.be/lbwwoSMgM3g The Texas Tornadoes https://youtu.be/lbwwoSMgM3g Texas Saturday Night at Gruene Hall Freddy Fender, Doug Sahm, Augie Myers, Flaco Jimenez View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/lbwwoSMgM3g Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Doug Sahm - "Nuevo Laredo" https://youtu.be/wb0yHJOOU-U https://youtu.be/wb0yHJOOU-U Doug Sahm - "Nuevo Laredo" https://youtu.be/wb0yHJOOU-U | Live from Austin TX 1975 View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/wb0yHJOOU-U Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Stevie Ray Vaughan and The Fabulous Thunderbirds - Tough Enough (Live) https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ Stevie Ray Vaughan and The Fabulous Thunderbirds - T... https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Eric Clapton/Jimmy Vaughan/Robert Cray-Six Strings Down http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA Eric Clapton/Jimmy Vaughan/Robert Cray-Six St... http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA Rock On View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The dB's - That Time Is Gone - 3/15/2012 - Outdoor Stage On Sixth https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g The dB's - That Time Is Gone - 3/15/2012 - Outdoor S... https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g The dB's - That Time Is Gone Recorded Live: 3/15/2012 - Outdoor Stage On Sixth (Austin,TX) Subscribe to Paste on YouTube: http://goo.gl/AU2nKB Visit P... View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : John Fogerty (Live 2004): The Old Man down the Road http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ John Fogerty (Live 2004): The Old Man down the Road http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Live From Austin
The Texas Tornadoes https://youtu.be/lbwwoSMgM3g https://youtu.be/lbwwoSMgM3g The Texas Tornadoes https://youtu.be/lbwwoSMgM3g Texas Saturday Night at Gruene Hall Freddy Fender, Doug Sahm, Augie Myers, Flaco Jimenez View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/lbwwoSMgM3g Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Doug Sahm - "Nuevo Laredo" https://youtu.be/wb0yHJOOU-U https://youtu.be/wb0yHJOOU-U Doug Sahm - "Nuevo Laredo" https://youtu.be/wb0yHJOOU-U | Live from Austin TX 1975 View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/wb0yHJOOU-U Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Stevie Ray Vaughan and The Fabulous Thunderbirds - Tough Enough (Live) https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ Stevie Ray Vaughan and The Fabulous Thunderbirds - T... https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/Z4yxxg5WDkQ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Eric Clapton/Jimmy Vaughan/Robert Cray-Six Strings Down http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA Eric Clapton/Jimmy Vaughan/Robert Cray-Six St... http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA Rock On View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/U-S4TDGoOqA Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The dB's - That Time Is Gone - 3/15/2012 - Outdoor Stage On Sixth https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g The dB's - That Time Is Gone - 3/15/2012 - Outdoor S... https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g The dB's - That Time Is Gone Recorded Live: 3/15/2012 - Outdoor Stage On Sixth (Austin,TX) Subscribe to Paste on YouTube: http://goo.gl/AU2nKB Visit P... View on youtu.be https://youtu.be/PSpE-LYcD1g Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : John Fogerty (Live 2004): The Old Man down the Road http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ John Fogerty (Live 2004): The Old Man down the Road http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ This feature is not available right now. Please try again later. View on youtu.be http://youtu.be/4Lf0pQoRgFQ Preview by Yahoo
[FairfieldLife] Re: Freedom Summit
"After his Thursday launch, Perry will head to Iowa, where on Saturday he'll be in the city of Perry to kick off a "Ride with Rick" event that benefits the Puppy Jake Foundation, a non-profit that provides service dogs to wounded veterans." Rick Perry launches comeback bid for White House - CNNPolitics.com http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/rick-perry-2016-presidential-announcement/ http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/rick-perry-2016-presidential-announcement/ Rick Perry launches comeback bid for White Hou... http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/rick-perry-2016-presidential-announcement/ This time, Rick Perry has nowhere to go but up. View on www.cnn.com http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/04/politics/rick-perry-2016-presidential-announcement/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : S.C. Senator Lindsey Graham has kicked off his presidential campaign. Lindsey Graham launches 2016 bid http://news.yahoo.com/starting-2016-campaign-graham-blunt-middle-east-071320520--election.html http://news.yahoo.com/starting-2016-campaign-graham-blunt-middle-east-071320520--election.html Lindsey Graham launches 2016 bid http://news.yahoo.com/starting-2016-campaign-graham-blunt-middle-east-071320520--election.html CENTRAL, S.C. (AP) — South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham has kicked off his presidential campaign. View on news.yahoo.com http://news.yahoo.com/starting-2016-campaign-graham-blunt-middle-east-071320520--election.html Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "She is now seriously questioning the mental health of both of the Clintons." Kathleen Willey: Hillary a ‘money-hungry hypocrite’ http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/kathleen-willey-hillary-a-money-hungry-hypocrite/ http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/kathleen-willey-hillary-a-money-hungry-hypocrite/ Kathleen Willey: Hillary a ‘money-hungry hypocrite’ http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/kathleen-willey-hillary-a-money-hungry-hypocrite/ A Free Press For A Free People Since 1997 View on www.wnd.com http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/kathleen-willey-hillary-a-money-hungry-hypocrite/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "The vast expansion of the spy state and the corresponding erosion of our Constitutional rights has not made America safer." Sen. Rand Paul: I Will Stop the Illegal NSA Spying http://time.com/3902561/sen-rand-paul-tomorrow-i-will-stop-the-illegal-nsa-spying/ http://time.com/3902561/sen-rand-paul-tomorrow-i-will-stop-the-illegal-nsa-spying/ Sen. Rand Paul: I Will Stop the Illegal NSA Spying http://time.com/3902561/sen-rand-paul-tomorrow-i-will-stop-the-illegal-nsa-spying/ "We have all the tools we need to preserve both security and liberty" View on time.com http://time.com/3902561/sen-rand-paul-tomorrow-i-will-stop-the-illegal-nsa-spying/ Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "Walker is backed by 17 percent as the state enters a busy summer of candidate visits, a planned straw poll, and campaigning at the Iowa State Fair. " Scott Walker Has Early Lead in Iowa Poll as Jeb Bush Faces Challenges http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-30/scott-walker-has-early-lead-in-iowa-poll-as-jeb-bush-faces-challenges http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-30/scott-walker-has-early-lead-in-iowa-poll-as-jeb-bush-faces-challenges Scott Walker Has Early Lead in Iowa Poll as Jeb Bush Fac... http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-30/scott-walker-has-early-lead-in-iowa-poll-as-jeb-bush-faces-challenges Marco Rubio is a popular second choice, a potential indication of strength if he can convert that support to his own. View on www.bloomberg.com http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-05-30/scott-walker-has-early-lead-in-iowa-poll-as-jeb-bush-faces-challenges Preview by Yahoo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The third rail in American politics. http://www.amazon.com/Adios-America-Ann-Coulter/dp/1621572676 http://www.amazon.com/Adios-America-Ann-Coulter/dp/1621572676 Despite Border Patrol’s best efforts, our border is still wide open https://bangordailynews.com/2015/05/25/opinion/contributors/despite-border-patrols-best-efforts-our-border-is-still-wide-open/ https://bangordailynews.com/2015/05/25/opinion/contributors/despite-border-patrols-best-efforts-our-border-is-still-wide-open/ Despite Border Patrol’s best efforts, our border is stil... https://bangordailynews.com/2015/05/25/opinion/contributors/despite-border-patrols-best-efforts-our-border-is-still-wide-open/ It’s a cat-and-mouse game, and the mouse is still winning. In spite of the best efforts of our Border Patrol agents, drugs and humans keep coming across our b... View on bangordailynews.com https://bangordailynews.com/2015/05/25/opinion/contributors/despite-border-patrols-best-eff
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
It's not complicated - just stop feeding it and start your own thread. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I thought you left? Non sequitur. Left to start a group with moderation? Non sequitur. Why not stay there if you can't cope with being here? Non sequitur. Why the endless whining? Non sequitur. Is it some sort of denial of service for the people who actually like it here? Non sequitur. Are you on some sort of mission to save us from ourselves? Non sequitur. You are the irritating troll, do you understand? Non sequitur. You and your mates who also never contribute anything. Non sequitur. Go away. Nothing is going to change here because we like chatting and having fun. Go away and stop spoiling it. You and your mates are tedious beyond words. Go away. You are the trolls. Go away. This very impressive! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Moderation ain't working, Doug, or haven't you noticed? There basically is NO moderation on this forum. Rick has encouraged us all to ponder these deep questions, but when it attracts trolls, he bails. No problem now that I have adjusted, but let's please not act as if someone is EVER going to do anything per the Yahoo Guidelines here. It is imo a useless thing to bring up at this point. --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : If you look into it, Sal, the real story is that Jim and other haters over on The_Leak are engaging in a form of "state sponsored terrorism." Not only do their members constantly come over to our group to *intentionally* disrupt ongoing discussions and do whatever they can think of to harm the well-being of people (us) who just want to be left alone to discuss the kinds of things this forum was created *to* discuss, they are *encouraged* by Jim and others back on The_Leak every time they do so. A quick perusal of the posts over on The_Leak will reveal how many times people like Jim, Richard, Steve, and others have been given a big "attaboy" and PRAISED for going over to FFL to disrupt things. Sure sounds a lot like the Internet counterpart of state-sponsored terrorism to me. NO ONE from FFL does the same thing over on The_Leak. The only former FFLer I know who contributes to that forum but who still primarily hangs on FFL is Anartaxius, and when he contributes over on The_Leak he actually *contributes*. Compare and contrast to Richard, Jim, Steve, and now Judy. She may not post over on The_Leak, but she's clearly on their payroll. The above rant was after my weekly look at a post by one of the non-contributors here. What they get out of it, I have no idea. How odd that they approve of people doing things here that they wouldn't be allowed to do there! I shall return to ignoring them as it's all too tedious and childish for words.
Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~ Case-Studies, about TMO friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~
So are you saying TMO is an Oxymoron? I find it a wicked organization with good intentions. From: "rich...@rwilliams.us [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~ Case-Studies, about TMO friendship ~~~ First of all, there's no "TMO" - if there was we would have a world-wide org to manage the movement. Second, nobody should depend on an org to make them enlightenment in 1 or 2, pr even 5-7 years. As far as "TMO" status claims, that should be easy to check. There is only one infromant on FFL that, so far, has been able to prove that he or she ever initied anyone into TM. Go figure. Quoting "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" : > “I have many points of contention with the TMO, and where the TMO > failed me, I found other resources.” -Anartaxius FFL 413787 > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : > > “Don't forget that many who might have not been so disenchanted with > the TMO 15 years ago are now. For some it's a gradual process and > for other happened decades ago.” -Bhairitu FFL #413779 > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : > > Thanks, interesting about Beal. Dixon raises an interesting point > below in that sometimes our poor experience with something is just > around a poor personality character, evidently like yours once with > your supervisor at MIU at a time. Hard to know or speculate about > this Beal obit from a distance. In Fairfield, Ia. we have had a > series of open meetings as discussions and communal trainings this > last year both in town and on campus speaking to depression and > suicide awareness as communal mental health trainings. Depression and > suicide are problems everywhere and yet in our organization and > movement communities certainly we have our peculiar cultural aspects > with it in character. .. Communal work 'in progress' mitigating those > aspects. -JaiGuruYou! > > > ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : > > Bruce Beal: > > > Bruce Murray Beal - The Ellsworth American > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal > > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal > > > > > > Bruce Murray Beal - The Ellsworth American > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal BAR > HARBOR — Bruce Murray Beal, 55, died unexpectedly on Feb. 9, 2010, in > Massachusetts. Bruce was born on Oct. 29, 1954 in New York. He grew > up in Bar Harbo... > > > > View on www.ellsworthamerica... > http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal > Preview by Yahoo > > > > > > From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:39 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~ Case-Studies about TMO friendship > ~~~ > > > > Culturally, for you when did the movement change? > More case-studies.. > > Mdixon writes: I've never been kicked out or disciplined by the TMO, > I still get weekly notifications of group Meditations and seasonal > celebrations from the local center. However, because I find the > *organization* so FUBAR, for my own peace of mind, I choose to keep > my distance from it, otherwise I would get kicked out. Quite frankly, > I find the TMO to be the antithesis of what it claims TM does for the > individual. It's not efficient, creative or compassionate. That is a > façade. I've found TM leaders to be spiritual bullies and power > trippers. "Oh Maharishi wouldn't want that" (I know because I'm in > perfect tune with his thinking). I find them lazy(oh Nature will > organize that) and their fragile little egos get offended easily if > you offer constructive criticism or a better idea (oh, you're just > being negative). Don't rain on my parade attitude. I Like TM and > think of the results in longer terms and I love Maharishi, although I > realized he is just a man with human faults and not the God I once > seemed to worship as. As for the TMO, I find it to be an > embarrassment. I think the straw that broke the camel's back for me > was telling me I had to give the TMO another $2,000.00 to keep > teaching, assuming I wanted to. I will not be black-mailed. > > I was never re-certified. I hadn't taught since the mid seventies > and had no plans to resume teaching and I'd be damned if I was going > to give them $2,000.00 to maintain credentials I had no intentions of > using, at least for the time being. I looked at it as blackmail. > Their services are no longer needed by me as well. FFL 413630 > > > BTW, Bruce Beal, who was the Houston Center manager at one time, > demanded that I make a monthly contribution to the center from my Job > at UPS. He kept me from getting the Sidhis for years because I > wouldn't supplement his income from mine! Others gave contributions > to build an PK clinic and were to receive PK discounts. The clinic > was never built and money never returned. They were thieves as well. > Oh shi
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
Just for the record, we should note that it was Barry that followed me from Google Groups over to Yahoo Groups - I've been posting on FFL for over a decade. It should also be pointed out that it was Barry who copied and pasted FFL messages over to A.M.T. - along with a challenge to debate him on FFL. So, it sounds like Barry is the "state-sponsored" terrorist, not Jim. I'm sure this won't be lost on Judy. LoL! When you dig down to the facts, it's not really all that complicated. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : If you look into it, Sal, the real story is that Jim and other haters over on The_Leak are engaging in a form of "state sponsored terrorism." Not only do their members constantly come over to our group to *intentionally* disrupt ongoing discussions and do whatever they can think of to harm the well-being of people (us) who just want to be left alone to discuss the kinds of things this forum was created *to* discuss, they are *encouraged* by Jim and others back on The_Leak every time they do so. A quick perusal of the posts over on The_Leak will reveal how many times people like Jim, Richard, Steve, and others have been given a big "attaboy" and PRAISED for going over to FFL to disrupt things. Sure sounds a lot like the Internet counterpart of state-sponsored terrorism to me. NO ONE from FFL does the same thing over on The_Leak. The only former FFLer I know who contributes to that forum but who still primarily hangs on FFL is Anartaxius, and when he contributes over on The_Leak he actually *contributes*. Compare and contrast to Richard, Jim, Steve, and now Judy. She may not post over on The_Leak, but she's clearly on their payroll.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
/There is probably a reason Barry uses the alias "Uncle Tantra" and "TurquoiseB" when he posts his satires on the internet. //It kind of makes him seem like a deviate to say the least. I thought it was amusing at first until he accused me of "fucking prarie dogs" just because he didn't like something I said about Fred Lenz. Go figure./ /Why don't you ask Barry why he enjoys such provokations and why he gets all offended and calls in the Dutch Police when someone posts a funny reply to his deviant sexual satires? / Quoting "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" : I do not think anyone should molest children. I do not think that children should be molested. It is a problem in this world and one that needs to be discussed. You just do not seem to grasp the difference between fiction and non-fiction in regard to the relationship of thoughts and speech to the world, and of thoughts and speech to action or non-action. I think morality is a useless concept because usually it is based on a superstitious world-view, but that ethics is something we need to formulate to maximise happiness and well-being, though I think of the word in a different sense than typical, not related to the concepts of 'right' and 'wrong' which vary with geography and cultural groups, but as something that might have a stronger more solid basis, scientific even, though that might be a stretch. As the experience of being takes over, the inner core of a person rots away because it is not real and is replaced with a 'core' that is not localised, not inner, not outer. So yes, I have rotted to the core. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Xeno, you appear to be giving child molestation a pass, as simply subject to our conditioning. I find this line of thinking inhumane, and morally bankrupt. No need to discuss this further with you, and I recommend that you see a therapist. Something in your core has apparently rotted. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of course I actually do not know. Estimates range from 1% to 5% of the population. There is a difference between thought and action except when identification is so strong that thought and desire is the only possible reality overriding all alternatives. That it is possible to imagine things, invent things in the mind that are not real but which are disturbing to other people. For example, writers like Stephen King, and makers of horror movies, for example, can dream up all sorts of gruesome things that they would never imagine doing in their private life at home. Take for example the motion picture 'Let the Right One In', a Swedish production. It is a peculiar romance, a love story, set amid the background of vampirism. It is a strange, dark, but wonderfully moving film, and yet I suspect many people would be totally revolted by it, or deeply upset. People's thoughts and conditioning result in many things in this film appearing as somehow real. Truth is never based on what someone said. It is the background by which one might determine how what someone says conforms to what happens in the universe. It is the 'sense' from which logic is born, and the 'sense' that allows us to see difference between thoughts, actions, experiences. There are linear modes of appreciation (thought) and non-linear modes (intuition). Neither is absolutely reliable in determining the states of things, but they are a guide. There were at last post count 23 posters (minus Fairfield Life and Barry posting two different ways). Thus based on statistics there is about 1/4 to one child molester on this forum. We sometimes find the people who object to something strenuously themselves are guilty of that very thing. Barry lives with what seems to be a close knit group; it seems unlikely to me he would be what you think. I usually suspect the most vocal people first, those who make a show of how horrible something is. But in reality we do not have any evidence whatever. Just going by what a person says is not reliable. Have you ever been to the Baby in the Meat Grinder Hamburger Palace? I love horror films. I seldom get my buttons pushed watching horror movies, though it has happened a few times in the past 7 decades. I find romantic movies harder to watch, they push my buttons more. Whatever, but those who react most strongly always seem to me to not be thinking clearly. If something is really that bad in 'real life', you don't run away, you stay and try to do something about it if that is possible. FFL is not exactly real life. Ideas are discussed here, it is a platform for discussion, even though it often devolves into personal rivalries, which I believe is the result of conditioning. If you really want to find out anything directly, you would have to go to the Netherlands. It is much easier to say something. And in the United States, by law, a person is presumed innocent until proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be guilty of something. Statistically, you could b
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Peep Show
/So, Barry called in the Interpol because he thought he saw a snake. Go figure./ /You can pretty much tell that Barry confused the satire from the fact when he called in the police and reported Raunchy and Ann for posting a funny. You forgot to mention this again, as if you're trying to avoid the facts. I can see why Judy thinks you might be passive-aggressive. / Quoting "anartax...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" : For all the children that were harmed in the past and are dead and gone, they are dead and gone. They cannot be helped. There are things we can do in the present. But we have to have a realistic appreciation of the world to be effective in 'correcting' social ills; we have to distinguish between fact and fantasy. Barry's or'ginal phrase that started all this last year was a fantasy, and exaggerated portrayal. Dark perhaps, but a fantasy, and some here saw a snake in the grass instead of a rope because they could not tell the difference. And this is why the world is in such a mess today. Misperception. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The question was simple Xeno. "Do you Xeno agree or not agree that distorting, perverting, slandering a man who you have disagreements with as someone who had performed sexually deviant acts on children a proper way of discourse on FFL"? "Granted the man may after have been a failed Guru, a mere human, but someone who had a decisive influence on millions" Clue: Quoting, stats, trivia, probabilities, dictionary definitions, Wikipedia articles and Supreme Court rulings is not an answer. Philosophizing about human mind, conditioning and subjective experiences such as Enlightenment is also not an answers. These are *cop-outs* ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Xeno, you appear to be giving child molestation a pass, as simply subject to our conditioning. I find this line of thinking inhumane, and morally bankrupt. No need to discuss this further with you, and I recommend that you see a therapist. Something in your core has apparently rotted. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Of course I actually do not know. Estimates range from 1% to 5% of the population. There is a difference between thought and action except when identification is so strong that thought and desire is the only possible reality overriding all alternatives. That it is possible to imagine things, invent things in the mind that are not real but which are disturbing to other people. For example, writers like Stephen King, and makers of horror movies, for example, can dream up all sorts of gruesome things that they would never imagine doing in their private life at home. Take for example the motion picture 'Let the Right One In', a Swedish production. It is a peculiar romance, a love story, set amid the background of vampirism. It is a strange, dark, but wonderfully moving film, and yet I suspect many people would be totally revolted by it, or deeply upset. People's thoughts and conditioning result in many things in this film appearing as somehow real. Truth is never based on what someone said. It is the background by which one might determine how what someone says conforms to what happens in the universe. It is the 'sense' from which logic is born, and the 'sense' that allows us to see difference between thoughts, actions, experiences. There are linear modes of appreciation (thought) and non-linear modes (intuition). Neither is absolutely reliable in determining the states of things, but they are a guide. There were at last post count 23 posters (minus Fairfield Life and Barry posting two different ways). Thus based on statistics there is about 1/4 to one child molester on this forum. We sometimes find the people who object to something strenuously themselves are guilty of that very thing. Barry lives with what seems to be a close knit group; it seems unlikely to me he would be what you think. I usually suspect the most vocal people first, those who make a show of how horrible something is. But in reality we do not have any evidence whatever. Just going by what a person says is not reliable. Have you ever been to the Baby in the Meat Grinder Hamburger Palace? I love horror films. I seldom get my buttons pushed watching horror movies, though it has happened a few times in the past 7 decades. I find romantic movies harder to watch, they push my buttons more. Whatever, but those who react most strongly always seem to me to not be thinking clearly. If something is really that bad in 'real life', you don't run away, you stay and try to do something about it if that is possible. FFL is not exactly real life. Ideas are discussed here, it is a platform for discussion, even though it often devolves into personal rivalries, which I believe is the result of conditioning. If you really want to find out anything directly, you would have to go to the Netherlands. It is much easier to say something. And in the United States, by law, a pers
Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~ Case-Studies, about TMO friendship ~~~~~~~~~~~
/First of all, there's no "TMO" - if there was we would have a world-wide org to manage the movement. Second, nobody should depend on an org to make them enlightenment in 1 or 2, pr even 5-7 years. As far as "TMO" status claims, that should be easy to check. There is only one infromant on FFL that, so far, has been able to prove that he or she ever initied anyone into TM. Go figure./ Quoting "dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" : “I have many points of contention with the TMO, and where the TMO failed me, I found other resources.” -Anartaxius FFL 413787 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : “Don't forget that many who might have not been so disenchanted with the TMO 15 years ago are now. For some it's a gradual process and for other happened decades ago.” -Bhairitu FFL #413779 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thanks, interesting about Beal. Dixon raises an interesting point below in that sometimes our poor experience with something is just around a poor personality character, evidently like yours once with your supervisor at MIU at a time. Hard to know or speculate about this Beal obit from a distance. In Fairfield, Ia. we have had a series of open meetings as discussions and communal trainings this last year both in town and on campus speaking to depression and suicide awareness as communal mental health trainings. Depression and suicide are problems everywhere and yet in our organization and movement communities certainly we have our peculiar cultural aspects with it in character. .. Communal work 'in progress' mitigating those aspects. -JaiGuruYou! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Bruce Beal: Bruce Murray Beal - The Ellsworth American http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal Bruce Murray Beal - The Ellsworth American http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal BAR HARBOR — Bruce Murray Beal, 55, died unexpectedly on Feb. 9, 2010, in Massachusetts. Bruce was born on Oct. 29, 1954 in New York. He grew up in Bar Harbo... View on www.ellsworthamerica[1]... http://www.ellsworthamerican.com/obituary/bruce-murray-beal Preview by Yahoo From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] ~~~ Case-Studies about TMO friendship ~~~ Culturally, for you when did the movement change? More case-studies.. Mdixon writes: I've never been kicked out or disciplined by the TMO, I still get weekly notifications of group Meditations and seasonal celebrations from the local center. However, because I find the *organization* so FUBAR, for my own peace of mind, I choose to keep my distance from it, otherwise I would get kicked out. Quite frankly, I find the TMO to be the antithesis of what it claims TM does for the individual. It's not efficient, creative or compassionate. That is a façade. I've found TM leaders to be spiritual bullies and power trippers. "Oh Maharishi wouldn't want that" (I know because I'm in perfect tune with his thinking). I find them lazy(oh Nature will organize that) and their fragile little egos get offended easily if you offer constructive criticism or a better idea (oh, you're just being negative). Don't rain on my parade attitude. I Like TM and think of the results in longer terms and I love Maharishi, although I realized he is just a man with human faults and not the God I once seemed to worship as. As for the TMO, I find it to be an embarrassment. I think the straw that broke the camel's back for me was telling me I had to give the TMO another $2,000.00 to keep teaching, assuming I wanted to. I will not be black-mailed. I was never re-certified. I hadn't taught since the mid seventies and had no plans to resume teaching and I'd be damned if I was going to give them $2,000.00 to maintain credentials I had no intentions of using, at least for the time being. I looked at it as blackmail. Their services are no longer needed by me as well. FFL 413630 BTW, Bruce Beal, who was the Houston Center manager at one time, demanded that I make a monthly contribution to the center from my Job at UPS. He kept me from getting the Sidhis for years because I wouldn't supplement his income from mine! Others gave contributions to build an PK clinic and were to receive PK discounts. The clinic was never built and money never returned. They were thieves as well. Oh shit, you got me started! Let it go and take it as it comes, let it go and take it as it comes , let it go. LOL FFL-413361 It's a Potemkin village all the way down, Mike. -Serious_Richard FFL-413629 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : accruing: In FFL 413626 Bhairitu writes: I wasn't kicked out either. [ ] As I've mentioned many times, I walked away disgusted that the TMO would charge $185 for what was essentially an intro lecture
