[FairfieldLife] Re: The Eurabian Death Spiral

[feste37]

Posters here should be allowed to have an argument and express themselves 
forcefully, in their own styles. In this case, it's not as if it is a daily 
thing, as with the posters that were kicked out. Our Canadian friend is one of 
our best contributors and should not be threatened with expulsion. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You evidently are strayed off from the wide, straight and narrow ways of civil 
discourse of the yahoo-groups guidelines with this thread. In a display of 
self-moderation could you two take your personal banter off the list, remove 
your last few posts yourself, or I'll be glad to take you both off the list. 
Thanks, in advance.
 

 If you would like to remove the posts, that is your prerogative, Doug. It 
doesn't matter to me one way or the other. emptypants is rude and offensive, at 
the best of times. If he chooses to shout invectives at me in response to what 
I have to say to him that is his business but I won't sit by and let him do so 
without pushback. I have no emotion about empty one way or another. I have 
opinions about him but no particular feeling. He is just a faceless poster on 
the internet. If you felt that our interactions, such as they were, were 
against the Yahoo guidelines than do what you have to do.
 

 Posting and reading here has been mostly fun. It is a chance to write and 
think and play. Playing is mostly what I do. While I am serious on some 
subjects and enjoy the opportunity to state how I feel, especially in the face 
of those who disagree, I have no great need to be here and you can silence me 
if that suits you and comes under the role of your moderator status at FFL. In 
the meantime, I'll carry on.

[FairfieldLife] Islamisation of Germany?

[he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Islamisation: Germany’s Tele5 TV Channel Puts Muslim Star And Crescent On Logo 
- Breitbart 
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/13/germanys-tele5-tv-channel/

 
 
 http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/13/germanys-tele5-tv-channel/ 
 
 Islamisation: Germany’s Tele5 TV Channel Puts Muslim St... 
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/13/germanys-tele5-tv-channel/ German 
Television station Tele5 has changed its logo today to a German flag emblazoned 
with the Islamic star and crescent, just weeks after the New Year...
 
 
 
 View on www.breitbart.com 
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/13/germanys-tele5-tv-channel/ 
 Preview by Yahoo 
 
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Books, For What They are Worth

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

I came to Plato early on. Still have my copy of The Republic from my high 
school days. Om, the Good, the Good. LB gave me a copy before he passed away of 
The Trial of Socrates.  It is on a shelf nearby.  
 

 And I had that edition of The Upanishads too from way back, though in recent 
years it seems to have gone off to another bookshelf with an offspring of mine. 
 The B.Gita in a sequence way back at a time became more formative for me. 
 

 The recent translation of The Upanishads by the movement had potential except 
that they rooted it twice in that manipulative translation of the Saha Nav 
lines that they have used to control the TM.org for so long.   Sad that they 
ruined the authenticity of their work by keeping to that narrow use of the 
work.  
 

 The Simple Life, Plain Living and High Thinking in American Culture,  by David 
E. Shi is a book about spirituality and communal groups in America like ours 
that I still refer to.  It has travelled with me for years.  I recently found a 
copy at Revelations, the used bookstore here in Fairfield while digging around 
there for X-mas presents for folks this last year.  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Yes, I have that edition of the Upanishads too, trans. by Alistair Shearer and 
Peter Russell. In fact, I have two copies, so if anyone would like one, just 
let me know. 

Lear is ruthless, I agree. You have to be in the mood for it. I actually prefer 
to read it than see it performed. Someone here in Fairfield produced an 
abridged, two-hour version of the play a couple of years ago. It was 
surprisingly effective. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Re "The Upanishads as one of the spiritual books that has most influenced me . 
. . more inspiring than the Gita" : 

 I'm with you there. I've got a pleasing, old edition translated by TMers Peter 
Russell and Alistair Shearer. It's also a photo-book with evocative 
black-and-white prints. 
 Out-of-print now so I shall jealousy guard my copy. 
 

 I had previously read the Juan Mascaro translation you like. It is one of only 
two books I ever read through while stoned on hash. The other was Hermann 
Hesse's Journey to the East. 

Re "Tolstoy's War and Peace, King Lear, Whitman's Leaves of Grass, the poetry 
of Blake.":
 

 Whitman/Blake were big for me too.
 

 King Lear I could never ("never, never, never, never, never") get. Too grim. 
Just shows how shallow I am. I'm more Midsummer Night's Dream and Romeo and 
Juliet.
 

 A BBC five-part series on War and Peace is currently getting rave reviews. The 
cast is great, the scenes spectacular but it's pretty "one-dimensional". 
Downton Abbey on steroids.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-BCmUeHE5c 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-BCmUeHE5c

 

 

  

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I was sent this link by a good friend. For all of you Bowie fans, you might 
find the list of his top 100 books interesting to view. Perusing the library of 
someone is always interesting and revealing.
 http://electricliterature.com/david-bowies-100-favorite-books/ 
http://electricliterature.com/david-bowies-100-favorite-books/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Poverty in India

[Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

In regards to the last sentence, that rural Indians are lazy and  dull, 
Maharishi used to say the same, at least in the early years. I think it 
probably goes a lot deeper than that. M used to say that when they were 
building Shankaracharya Nagar that he had to stay on top of the workers, 
telling them what to do etc. because as soon as he walked away they would sit 
down  and fall asleep..

 

  From: "yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:37 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Poverty in India
   
    After getting initiated by the Kriya Yoga Guru Swami Satyeswarananda in 
1982, I asked him why there's so much poverty in India.  He got extremely 
pissed off at the question, and didn't answer it.  I'm still trying to figure 
out why.(as to the poverty).  In addition to the reasons given in this 
website,:4 Main Causes of Poverty in India – Explained! 
||
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Advertisements: Four main causes of poverty in India are as follows: It is said 
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  it appears that India had two Golden Ages (the "original" Indus/Sarawati 
civilization starting about 5,000 years ago (or before), lasting until the 
drying up of the Sarawati River, 2000 BCE.  Then, another Golden Age would be 
from about 300 CE to 1000 CE which included the Chola Dynasty.  At this time, 
India's net economic production was about 1/3 of the world's, and Hindu culture 
spread to other parts of Asia and Africa.  It appears that repeated Muslim 
invasions contributed to an overall decline after about 1200 CE.  UCSD 
Cognitive Neurologist Dr. V. S. Ramachandra puts the blame a the feet of the 
British, who started with rather benign East India Trading posts in many Indian 
cities but eventually took over with military and political power, lasting into 
the middle of the 20-th Century. Further google searching may turn up 
definitive clues.Here's a rather funny quote from the above website: "Most of 
the rural people are lazy, dull, and reluctant to work. Hence, they rot in 
poverty". (but unfortunate if true.  I've never been to India in the current 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Time for Meditation

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 Well, one could make a thesis that the general lack of human contact with 
domesticated large mammals in the post-modern era is an exacerbating element in 
the evident current of incivility in humanity. Having the opportunity to 
compose ones self to be successful around large mammals is always an exercise 
in all that is good in being human. 
 That laboratory of cultivation of humanity has almost disappeared from the 
start to the end of the 20th Century, a nearly lost schooling in humanity. 
There is just not a lot of room in a modern world in the spirituality that can 
come from the caring for large domesticated mammals who had formerly come along 
with us as a mutual cultivation that has existed for millennium.  -JaiGuruYou
 

 emptybill writes: 
 Go ride your horse. 

 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Eurabian Death Spiral

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You evidently are strayed off from the wide, straight and narrow ways of civil 
discourse of the yahoo-groups guidelines with this thread. In a display of 
self-moderation could you two take your personal banter off the list, remove 
your last few posts yourself, or I'll be glad to take you both off the list. 
Thanks, in advance.
 

 If you would like to remove the posts, that is your prerogative, Doug. It 
doesn't matter to me one way or the other. emptypants is rude and offensive, at 
the best of times. If he chooses to shout invectives at me in response to what 
I have to say to him that is his business but I won't sit by and let him do so 
without pushback. I have no emotion about empty one way or another. I have 
opinions about him but no particular feeling. He is just a faceless poster on 
the internet. If you felt that our interactions, such as they were, were 
against the Yahoo guidelines than do what you have to do.
 

 Posting and reading here has been mostly fun. It is a chance to write and 
think and play. Playing is mostly what I do. While I am serious on some 
subjects and enjoy the opportunity to state how I feel, especially in the face 
of those who disagree, I have no great need to be here and you can silence me 
if that suits you and comes under the role of your moderator status at FFL. In 
the meantime, I'll carry on.

[FairfieldLife] New Meditation study

[yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Long-term meditators can retard brain shrinkage.:
 

 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/06/meditation-brain-aging_n_6629858.html 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/06/meditation-brain-aging_n_6629858.html
 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Eurabian Death Spiral

[dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

It was interesting, Ollie to see how fast it back-slid once it got going.   
Became something like a feeding frenzy.  One person, two then three, restraint
 was lost and the community disrespected.
 

   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Agreed. Thanks for raising the awareness about this issue Doug, but now that 
the socially maladjusted members are gone for good from FFL, I side with feste 
that nothing more need be done. The group can self-police itself pretty well at 
this point, though stepping in with a reminder as you did, doesn't hurt. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Posters here should be allowed to have an argument and express themselves 
forcefully, in their own styles. In this case, it's not as if it is a daily 
thing, as with the posters that were kicked out. Our Canadian friend is one of 
our best contributors and should not be threatened with expulsion. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You evidently are strayed off from the wide, straight and narrow ways of civil 
discourse of the yahoo-groups guidelines with this thread. In a display of 
self-moderation could you two take your personal banter off the list, remove 
your last few posts yourself, or I'll be glad to take you both off the list. 
Thanks, in advance.
 

 If you would like to remove the posts, that is your prerogative, Doug. It 
doesn't matter to me one way or the other. emptypants is rude and offensive, at 
the best of times. If he chooses to shout invectives at me in response to what 
I have to say to him that is his business but I won't sit by and let him do so 
without pushback. I have no emotion about empty one way or another. I have 
opinions about him but no particular feeling. He is just a faceless poster on 
the internet. If you felt that our interactions, such as they were, were 
against the Yahoo guidelines than do what you have to do.
 

 Posting and reading here has been mostly fun. It is a chance to write and 
think and play. Playing is mostly what I do. While I am serious on some 
subjects and enjoy the opportunity to state how I feel, especially in the face 
of those who disagree, I have no great need to be here and you can silence me 
if that suits you and comes under the role of your moderator status at FFL. In 
the meantime, I'll carry on.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Eurabian Death Spiral

[olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Agreed. Thanks for raising the awareness about this issue Doug, but now that 
the socially maladjusted members are gone for good from FFL, I side with feste 
that nothing more need be done. The group can self-police itself pretty well at 
this point, though stepping in with a reminder as you did, doesn't hurt. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Posters here should be allowed to have an argument and express themselves 
forcefully, in their own styles. In this case, it's not as if it is a daily 
thing, as with the posters that were kicked out. Our Canadian friend is one of 
our best contributors and should not be threatened with expulsion. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You evidently are strayed off from the wide, straight and narrow ways of civil 
discourse of the yahoo-groups guidelines with this thread. In a display of 
self-moderation could you two take your personal banter off the list, remove 
your last few posts yourself, or I'll be glad to take you both off the list. 
Thanks, in advance.
 

 If you would like to remove the posts, that is your prerogative, Doug. It 
doesn't matter to me one way or the other. emptypants is rude and offensive, at 
the best of times. If he chooses to shout invectives at me in response to what 
I have to say to him that is his business but I won't sit by and let him do so 
without pushback. I have no emotion about empty one way or another. I have 
opinions about him but no particular feeling. He is just a faceless poster on 
the internet. If you felt that our interactions, such as they were, were 
against the Yahoo guidelines than do what you have to do.
 

 Posting and reading here has been mostly fun. It is a chance to write and 
think and play. Playing is mostly what I do. While I am serious on some 
subjects and enjoy the opportunity to state how I feel, especially in the face 
of those who disagree, I have no great need to be here and you can silence me 
if that suits you and comes under the role of your moderator status at FFL. In 
the meantime, I'll carry on.

[FairfieldLife] The End of Physics?

[jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Scientists may be able to get hints of the existence of the multiverse, but may 
not be able to prove it.
 

 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/two-most-dangerous-numbers-universe-194557366.html
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/two-most-dangerous-numbers-universe-194557366.html
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Eurabian Death Spiral

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

Absolutely.  This place without Ann would be terribly dull, to say the least. 

 And I think she gets better as time goes by.  Her views may not mirror my own, 
some, or maybe a good bit of the time, but I appreciate the way she expresses 
herself.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Posters here should be allowed to have an argument and express themselves 
forcefully, in their own styles. In this case, it's not as if it is a daily 
thing, as with the posters that were kicked out. Our Canadian friend is one of 
our best contributors and should not be threatened with expulsion. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You evidently are strayed off from the wide, straight and narrow ways of civil 
discourse of the yahoo-groups guidelines with this thread. In a display of 
self-moderation could you two take your personal banter off the list, remove 
your last few posts yourself, or I'll be glad to take you both off the list. 
Thanks, in advance.
 

 If you would like to remove the posts, that is your prerogative, Doug. It 
doesn't matter to me one way or the other. emptypants is rude and offensive, at 
the best of times. If he chooses to shout invectives at me in response to what 
I have to say to him that is his business but I won't sit by and let him do so 
without pushback. I have no emotion about empty one way or another. I have 
opinions about him but no particular feeling. He is just a faceless poster on 
the internet. If you felt that our interactions, such as they were, were 
against the Yahoo guidelines than do what you have to do.
 

 Posting and reading here has been mostly fun. It is a chance to write and 
think and play. Playing is mostly what I do. While I am serious on some 
subjects and enjoy the opportunity to state how I feel, especially in the face 
of those who disagree, I have no great need to be here and you can silence me 
if that suits you and comes under the role of your moderator status at FFL. In 
the meantime, I'll carry on.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Eurabian Death Spiral

[steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

not my take, at all. wasn't bothered in the least, nor was anyone else I am 
supposing.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 It was interesting, Ollie to see how fast it back-slid once it got going.   
Became something like a feeding frenzy.  One person, two then three, restraint
 was lost and the community disrespected.
 

   
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Agreed. Thanks for raising the awareness about this issue Doug, but now that 
the socially maladjusted members are gone for good from FFL, I side with feste 
that nothing more need be done. The group can self-police itself pretty well at 
this point, though stepping in with a reminder as you did, doesn't hurt. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Posters here should be allowed to have an argument and express themselves 
forcefully, in their own styles. In this case, it's not as if it is a daily 
thing, as with the posters that were kicked out. Our Canadian friend is one of 
our best contributors and should not be threatened with expulsion. 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You evidently are strayed off from the wide, straight and narrow ways of civil 
discourse of the yahoo-groups guidelines with this thread. In a display of 
self-moderation could you two take your personal banter off the list, remove 
your last few posts yourself, or I'll be glad to take you both off the list. 
Thanks, in advance.
 

 If you would like to remove the posts, that is your prerogative, Doug. It 
doesn't matter to me one way or the other. emptypants is rude and offensive, at 
the best of times. If he chooses to shout invectives at me in response to what 
I have to say to him that is his business but I won't sit by and let him do so 
without pushback. I have no emotion about empty one way or another. I have 
opinions about him but no particular feeling. He is just a faceless poster on 
the internet. If you felt that our interactions, such as they were, were 
against the Yahoo guidelines than do what you have to do.
 

 Posting and reading here has been mostly fun. It is a chance to write and 
think and play. Playing is mostly what I do. While I am serious on some 
subjects and enjoy the opportunity to state how I feel, especially in the face 
of those who disagree, I have no great need to be here and you can silence me 
if that suits you and comes under the role of your moderator status at FFL. In 
the meantime, I'll carry on.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alan

[ultrarishi]

What a sad week.  These guys were awesome.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The End of Physics?

[s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

From the article: "We may be entering a new era in physics. An era where there 
are weird features in the universe that we cannot explain."
 

 Compare with this from 1927:
 

 "My own suspicion is that the Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, 
but queerer than we can suppose" - J. B. S. Haldane

 

 

  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Scientists may be able to get hints of the existence of the multiverse, but 
may not be able to prove it.
 

 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/two-most-dangerous-numbers-universe-194557366.html
 
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/two-most-dangerous-numbers-universe-194557366.html
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Alan

[Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]]

"Getting while the gettin's good" would be my usual answer but these 
were both cancer deaths.  We're being polluted by our environment and 
there are cures for cancer but they are mostly preventative.  Also the 
extremes seasons (winter and summer) bring deaths because they stress us 
the most.


On 01/14/2016 06:55 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


That voice, that presence. Damn, why are all the good guys leaving us?


http://heavy.com/news/2016/01/rip-alan-rickman-dead-died-cancer-best-quotes-professor-snape-harry-potter-memes/

Re: [FairfieldLife] Time for Meditation

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 
 Well, one could make a thesis that the general lack of human contact with 
domesticated large mammals in the post-modern era is an exacerbating element in 
the evident current of incivility in humanity. Having the opportunity to 
compose ones self to be successful around large mammals is always an exercise 
in all that is good in being human. 
 That laboratory of cultivation of humanity has almost disappeared from the 
start to the end of the 20th Century, a nearly lost schooling in humanity. 
There is just not a lot of room in a modern world in the spirituality that can 
come from the caring for large domesticated mammals who had formerly come along 
with us as a mutual cultivation that has existed for millennium.  -JaiGuruYou
 

 You know it. The interaction with any animal species is priceless and a gift. 
I couldn't raise animals for meat, however. It seems so much of a betrayal to 
house and nourish and nurture them only to slit their throats later. But at 
least if you can do it at home it saves them the agony of the travel with all 
of the fear and uncertainty.
 

 emptybill writes: 
 Go ride your horse. 

 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Alan

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 That voice, that presence. Damn, why are all the good guys leaving us?
 

 RIP Alan Rickman: Best Tribute Quotes & Memes 
http://heavy.com/news/2016/01/rip-alan-rickman-dead-died-cancer-best-quotes-professor-snape-harry-potter-memes/

 
 
 
http://heavy.com/news/2016/01/rip-alan-rickman-dead-died-cancer-best-quotes-professor-snape-harry-potter-memes/
 
 
 RIP Alan Rickman: Best Tribute Quotes & Memes 
http://heavy.com/news/2016/01/rip-alan-rickman-dead-died-cancer-best-quotes-professor-snape-harry-potter-memes/
 Alan Rickman, the British actor known to this generation as Professor Severus 
Snape of the Harry Potter films, has died from cancer at the age of 69. 
Remembe...
 
 
 
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http://heavy.com/news/2016/01/rip-alan-rickman-dead-died-cancer-best-quotes-professor-snape-harry-potter-memes/
 
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 That was kind of a dumb link, here is a montage of some photos and stills. 
Great face. Mute the stupid music though.
 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bixFhn3m85k 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bixFhn3m85k

[FairfieldLife] Alan

[awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]]

That voice, that presence. Damn, why are all the good guys leaving us?
 

 
http://heavy.com/news/2016/01/rip-alan-rickman-dead-died-cancer-best-quotes-professor-snape-harry-potter-memes/
 
http://heavy.com/news/2016/01/rip-alan-rickman-dead-died-cancer-best-quotes-professor-snape-harry-potter-memes/