Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-07 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Old TM teachers had a relationship more directly to Maharishi in being cultivated and certified by him and under essential understanding in relationship to use what they learned from him without letting money get in the way of people learning to meditate. ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-07 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
There was a further mercantile shift in administration of old TM after Maharishi. The complete change over after Maharishi was handled most unfortunately by a strong mind of making old testament like judgments about old teachers and then retributions by some business-minded group consciousness

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-07 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
NO, I get the point. You're just defending the indefensible. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time

[FairfieldLife] Louis de Jaucourt on Quietism

2016-04-07 Thread yifux...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Jaucourt's (1704 - 1779) article on Quietism in the Encyclopedia of Diderot and d'Alembert (Vol 13 (1765). Mentions Molinos and Mme Guion but not George Fox in the article (but the Encyclopedia may have entries on these...haven't checked yet). Jaucourt speculates that the Quietists may have

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 08-Apr-16 00:15:05 UTC

2016-04-07 Thread FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 04/02/16 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 04/09/16 00:00:00 150 messages as of (UTC) 04/08/16 00:11:04 39 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569 24 dhamiltony2k5 13 awoelflebater 12 hepa7 12 Bhairitu noozguru 9 yifuxero 6 olliesedwuz 6

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-07 Thread feste37
You seem determined to miss the point entirely. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : One doesn't need to take two weeks off to travel cross country to learn the latest information. If a teacher's knowledge wasn't sufficient to teach anymore, then it never was

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers

2016-04-07 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Excerpts that I heard presented in papers at a conference sounded very similar to Barclay's Apology and not unlike a defended sort of fear that practicing TM meditators contend with in the TMO's guidelines and administrative inquisitions that are held in Fairfield around being able to stay in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-07 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
One doesn't need to take two weeks off to travel cross country to learn the latest information. If a teacher's knowledge  wasn't sufficient to teach anymore, then it never was sufficient to teach in the first place. What kind of teachers did Maharishi create? The fact is , it was a money maker

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-07 Thread feste37
That's a ridiculous comment. I was just making the point that people need to keep up with developments in their field, and that is all that recertification is. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : One doesn't need a license to teach TM. So, you want the *state*

[FairfieldLife] Greetings From Utopia Park, by Claire Hoffman

2016-04-07 Thread 'Rick Archer' r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/caterina-fake/greetings-from-utopia-par_b_9614 464.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-07 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
PS Lest you think I am all about knocking the TMO, just to put it in context, they offer the only useful technique for gaining enlightenment, imo. Maharishi was a revolutionary in that way. So, yeah, no follow through, but they are the only place to get started. I have a friend who is a long

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-07 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The thing is Doug, that organizations like the TMO attract those who want to be big shots, though with no other qualifications. After awhile, the management stops meeting peoples' needs and are in it just for themselves. Obviously not a recipe for growth. In addition, TM is a victim of its

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-07 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yeah, as soon as it started getting messy I started distancing myself from it. But I did watch from afar From: "awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 9:02 AM Subject: Re:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM, Quietism, & the Quakers

2016-04-07 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Does TM have any European antecedents? These old writings reference other writings coming from around Europe, the lowlands, France and Spain and Austria. Through history these spiritual people would have to take periodic refuge from the religion of the day and so they moved around with

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-07 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You know, the TMO has always operated in a cliquish manner. When you first get initiated ,everything is cool. You belong to a unique group of people *saving the world*. But then you notice various cliques have formed. There are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-07 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You know, the TMO has always operated in a cliquish manner. When you first get initiated ,everything is cool. You belong to a unique group of people *saving the world*. But then you notice various cliques have formed. There are plane ol' meditaters,( the lowest of the low, that nobody wants to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Swedish humor about intregration...

2016-04-07 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Carde, the records from July 1975 show Sweden with 122 initiators and 27,000 meditators or .325% of the Swedish population meditating. Unfathomable is the course of action. -JaiGuruYou ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Perhaps I'm also a bit

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators Should Come (back) to the Domes the next 4-5 weeks ~ Important time for coherence in consciousness

2016-04-07 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes a lot of old TM teachers feel cut this way. I hear this a lot and this is very much related to how people feel about attending the group meditation in the Domes here. Meditators have been separated and excluded in a number of ways that need to be directly acknowledged and remediated for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Swedish humor about intregration...

2016-04-07 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Perhaps I'm also a bit disappointed that TM in Sweden has not prevented the problems caused by immigrants, like over 50 no-go-zones, I believe, and Sweden being the rape capital of the West: Sweden: Rape Capital of the West http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

[FairfieldLife] Re: Swedish humor about intregration...

2016-04-07 Thread he...@hotmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Well, about 6 percent of Finns are Swedish speaking. In the 60's I had a Swedish speaking pal who also spoke Finnish almost like a native. When his teenage somewhat older sister heard him speak Finnish to me, she said very angrily: Anders (name changed), we are not Finns! (They call