[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is the author of our actions?
It is true that one can only surmise about what one doesn't have direct experience of. I am not questioning the TM technique, transcending, or CC as a state of being. I was questioning whether innate qualities in a human being (gunas) can be dispelled. I was primarily curious as to your definitive statement that attaining CC frees one from one's karma...in *this* lifetime. That isn't something I believe we can know and so I wanted to better understand why you wrote this. You haven't yet addressed it, however, and I'm fine with leaving the conversation where it lies. P.S. I have known one person who believes that they have addressed all their karma in this lifetime and will not have to suffer through another incarnation. I remain skeptical of all such claims. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Emily, The simplest way for me to describe the technique is that all TMers can experience transcendental consciousness or bliss consciousness, although the experience is only temporary. Other meditators call it "samadhi", which is the generic term to describe this level of consciousness. TM studies have quantified this state in terms of brain wave data. The meditator can have replicable and repeated experience of this TC which is described by MMY in his commentarty to the Gita and the "Science of Being and the Art of Living." It's not difficult to imagine what cosmic consciousness would be like--which is permanent bliss consciousness during the waking, dreaming and deep sleep states The facts that you copied in Wikipedia are correct. But they lack the first hand experience of "transcending" during the TM practice. As you get familiar with transcending you can read MMY's commentary to the Gita to compare your experience with what MMY was describing. The only way for you to understand MMY's commentarty is to experience the process of transcending which will eventually give you the knowledge of what cosmic consciousness or the higher states of consciousness would be like. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : John, you write with a lot of clarity and responded to the "bondage" associated with being influenced by Gunas, as interpreted through MMY. Wikipedia says the following about Guna "Chapters 3, 7, 13, 14, 17 and 18 of Bhagavad Gita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita discuss Guna.[27] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%E1%B9%87a#cite_note-ckc-27 Verse 17.2 refers to the three Guna – sattvic, rajasic and tamasic – as innate nature (psychology or personality of an individual).[28] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%E1%B9%87a#cite_note-28[29] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%E1%B9%87a#cite_note-gideon-29 Sattvic guna is one driven by what is pure, truth, compassionate, without craving, doing the right because it is right, positive and good. Tamasic guna is one driven by what is impure, dark, destructive, aimed to hurt another, contemptuous, negative and vicious. Rajasic guna is one that is ego-driven, out of personal passion, active, ostentatious, seeking the approval of others.[27] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%E1%B9%87a#cite_note-ckc-27[29] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%E1%B9%87a#cite_note-gideon-29 " I am questioning this sentence: "MMY was saying that the TM practice can lead one to cosmic consciousness and enlightenment. Thus, one is freed from the bondage of actions and Karma in this lifetime." Specifically, I am questioning your statement that attaining cosmic consciousness and enlightenment (as defined by MMY) will free a person from the bondage of actions and Karma in this lifetime. Perhaps you mean that TM helps to *smooth out* the influence or intensity of the "gunas," as qualities in a personality. These gunas, *innate* as they are to human personality are never fully eliminated or "dispelled" are they? There was ample evidence here during the first couple of years I was here, that in fact, TM meditation or not, these Gunas representing feelings and actions (e.g., compassion, contempt) were alive and well in all the posters. I also question the idea that attaining "enlightenment" by way of a TM practice will free one from one's karma (I assume you mean negative) *in this lifetime.* That is a very bold statement. How do you know this? Is it something we can know, as human beings? Perhaps it is more that TM meditation serves as a tool to resolve and put to rest perceived negative karma in this lifetime, perhaps as a result of new actions reflecting the qualities of a Sattvic guna . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Emily, The Gita states that humans are in bondage due to the gunas and karma. MMY mentions in his commentary that we are all affected by the gunas since these are related to the basic elements such as earth, water, fire, air and ether. Since we are composed of these elements, we are therefore a
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is the author of our actions?
Emily, The simplest way for me to describe the technique is that all TMers can experience transcendental consciousness or bliss consciousness, although the experience is only temporary. Other meditators call it "samadhi", which is the generic term to describe this level of consciousness. TM studies have quantified this state in terms of brain wave data. The meditator can have replicable and repeated experience of this TC which is described by MMY in his commentarty to the Gita and the "Science of Being and the Art of Living." It's not difficult to imagine what cosmic consciousness would be like--which is permanent bliss consciousness during the waking, dreaming and deep sleep states The facts that you copied in Wikipedia are correct. But they lack the first hand experience of "transcending" during the TM practice. As you get familiar with transcending you can read MMY's commentary to the Gita to compare your experience with what MMY was describing. The only way for you to understand MMY's commentarty is to experience the process of transcending which will eventually give you the knowledge of what cosmic consciousness or the higher states of consciousness would be like. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : John, you write with a lot of clarity and responded to the "bondage" associated with being influenced by Gunas, as interpreted through MMY. Wikipedia says the following about Guna "Chapters 3, 7, 13, 14, 17 and 18 of Bhagavad Gita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita discuss Guna.[27] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%E1%B9%87a#cite_note-ckc-27 Verse 17.2 refers to the three Guna – sattvic, rajasic and tamasic – as innate nature (psychology or personality of an individual).[28] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%E1%B9%87a#cite_note-28[29] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%E1%B9%87a#cite_note-gideon-29 Sattvic guna is one driven by what is pure, truth, compassionate, without craving, doing the right because it is right, positive and good. Tamasic guna is one driven by what is impure, dark, destructive, aimed to hurt another, contemptuous, negative and vicious. Rajasic guna is one that is ego-driven, out of personal passion, active, ostentatious, seeking the approval of others.[27] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%E1%B9%87a#cite_note-ckc-27[29] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%E1%B9%87a#cite_note-gideon-29 " I am questioning this sentence: "MMY was saying that the TM practice can lead one to cosmic consciousness and enlightenment. Thus, one is freed from the bondage of actions and Karma in this lifetime." Specifically, I am questioning your statement that attaining cosmic consciousness and enlightenment (as defined by MMY) will free a person from the bondage of actions and Karma in this lifetime. Perhaps you mean that TM helps to *smooth out* the influence or intensity of the "gunas," as qualities in a personality. These gunas, *innate* as they are to human personality are never fully eliminated or "dispelled" are they? There was ample evidence here during the first couple of years I was here, that in fact, TM meditation or not, these Gunas representing feelings and actions (e.g., compassion, contempt) were alive and well in all the posters. I also question the idea that attaining "enlightenment" by way of a TM practice will free one from one's karma (I assume you mean negative) *in this lifetime.* That is a very bold statement. How do you know this? Is it something we can know, as human beings? Perhaps it is more that TM meditation serves as a tool to resolve and put to rest perceived negative karma in this lifetime, perhaps as a result of new actions reflecting the qualities of a Sattvic guna . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Emily, The Gita states that humans are in bondage due to the gunas and karma. MMY mentions in his commentary that we are all affected by the gunas since these are related to the basic elements such as earth, water, fire, air and ether. Since we are composed of these elements, we are therefore affected by the gunas-- and so are the other living beings that inhabit the earth. The TM tradition interprets the method to avoid the influence of the "gunas" by merely being without them as stated in Chapter 2 of the Gita. This is the reason why TMers meditate to dispel these gunas. Hence, over time the meditator can learn to maintain transcendental consciousness or "bliss consciousness" during the waking portion of our life. Over time, the bliss consciousness can be maintained during the sleeping and dreaming stage of life. When bliss consciousness if permanently maintained during the various stages of life, the TM tradition states that the person has reached "cosmic consciousness", the level in which the person attains "heaven here on earth". These are all mentioned in MMY's commentary to the Gita. He also wro
[FairfieldLife] Re: YS: duHkha & viveka, part 1: definitions
Thx for mentioning that! Unfortunately, given Enlightenment, say such a person is stung by 10 box jelly fish. Would the person be in agony or not. If one replies that the Self doesn't suffer, true; but the relative suffers, and I doubt seriously that any amount of "Bliss" would be sufficient to overpower the pain. Also, Enlightened people grow old and die like everybody else. Some develop Dementia. MMY also said that physical death is an offense to the Divine Mother. Jai Guru Sakyamuni Buddha.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: YS: duHkha & viveka, part 1: definitions
Maharishi in the SCI course said the relative is a "solid mass of death" but also he says while that is true you don't dwell on that, actually dwelling on that can cut you off or hinder your enlightenment through the Ananda aspect of the absolute . Thats why his teaching can be truly called the Madhu Vidya. http://mmy.klemke.de/M311.pdf http://mmy.klemke.de/M311.pdf
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is the author of our actions?
Thx, still doesn't account for the probable fact that Enlightened people can perform Adharmic acts on a Tamasic level such as taking advantage of women and extracting money from followers. Are you suggesting that the relative "person" is not responsible for these acts? ... These considerations can easily slip into Neo-Advaita, which would generate a false list of non-sequiturs as follows. [my comments in brackets] 1. The Self is free of karma; i.e. the true Identity as pure Consciousness, as stated in the Upanishads. [true] 2. When one realizes the Self in Unity, since the Self is free of karma, one is free of karma, especially the bad karma of the past and the tendency to generate new bad karma. [false. This is a Neo-Advaitic misconception in that it separates "a person" into dual aspects of the Self and the relative, then discards the relative part. False because "a person" is both relative and Absolute together as one, not the Self separate from the relative. If the latter were true, then we could say that after E., karma is simply irrelevant and doesn't affect "us".] 3. [another false assumption is that the Gunas automatically shift from possibly Tamasic to Sattvic immediately when one becomes E. This is MMY's error. There's no law that says this is true. If somebody is dishonest before E, they must might be dishonest after E To conclude, MMY falsely asserts that people after E. are 1. incapable iof maning "mistaking" and are incapable of what might be considered evil acts such as taking advantage of women and extracting money from the Organization. MMY never addressed these obvious facts which undermine his claims as to freedom from karma.
[FairfieldLife] Re: YS: duHkha & viveka, part 5
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[FairfieldLife] Re: YS: duHkha & viveka, part 5
I honestly dont think so, it is the time involved to do the TM Siddhis. Actually I would say that Maharishi indicates that TM leads you to CC but with the Night Technique and the TM SIddhis you are glorifying the relative and experiencing it in terms of the absolute and its absolute aspect predominates in all the experience with time and the whole of experience actually becomes a continuum of bliss, inner and outer
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is the author of our actions?
John, you write with a lot of clarity and responded to the "bondage" associated with being influenced by Gunas, as interpreted through MMY. Wikipedia says the following about Guna "Chapters 3, 7, 13, 14, 17 and 18 of Bhagavad Gita https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagavad_Gita discuss Guna.[27] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%E1%B9%87a#cite_note-ckc-27 Verse 17.2 refers to the three Guna – sattvic, rajasic and tamasic – as innate nature (psychology or personality of an individual).[28] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%E1%B9%87a#cite_note-28[29] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%E1%B9%87a#cite_note-gideon-29 Sattvic guna is one driven by what is pure, truth, compassionate, without craving, doing the right because it is right, positive and good. Tamasic guna is one driven by what is impure, dark, destructive, aimed to hurt another, contemptuous, negative and vicious. Rajasic guna is one that is ego-driven, out of personal passion, active, ostentatious, seeking the approval of others.[27] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%E1%B9%87a#cite_note-ckc-27[29] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gu%E1%B9%87a#cite_note-gideon-29 " I am questioning this sentence: "MMY was saying that the TM practice can lead one to cosmic consciousness and enlightenment. Thus, one is freed from the bondage of actions and Karma in this lifetime." Specifically, I am questioning your statement that attaining cosmic consciousness and enlightenment (as defined by MMY) will free a person from the bondage of actions and Karma in this lifetime. Perhaps you mean that TM helps to *smooth out* the influence or intensity of the "gunas," as qualities in a personality. These gunas, *innate* as they are to human personality are never fully eliminated or "dispelled" are they? There was ample evidence here during the first couple of years I was here, that in fact, TM meditation or not, these Gunas representing feelings and actions (e.g., compassion, contempt) were alive and well in all the posters. I also question the idea that attaining "enlightenment" by way of a TM practice will free one from one's karma (I assume you mean negative) *in this lifetime.* That is a very bold statement. How do you know this? Is it something we can know, as human beings? Perhaps it is more that TM meditation serves as a tool to resolve and put to rest perceived negative karma in this lifetime, perhaps as a result of new actions reflecting the qualities of a Sattvic guna . ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Emily, The Gita states that humans are in bondage due to the gunas and karma. MMY mentions in his commentary that we are all affected by the gunas since these are related to the basic elements such as earth, water, fire, air and ether. Since we are composed of these elements, we are therefore affected by the gunas-- and so are the other living beings that inhabit the earth. The TM tradition interprets the method to avoid the influence of the "gunas" by merely being without them as stated in Chapter 2 of the Gita. This is the reason why TMers meditate to dispel these gunas. Hence, over time the meditator can learn to maintain transcendental consciousness or "bliss consciousness" during the waking portion of our life. Over time, the bliss consciousness can be maintained during the sleeping and dreaming stage of life. When bliss consciousness if permanently maintained during the various stages of life, the TM tradition states that the person has reached "cosmic consciousness", the level in which the person attains "heaven here on earth". These are all mentioned in MMY's commentary to the Gita. He also wrote about these in his "Science of Being and Art of Living". In my opinion, this is the gift that Guru Dev and MMY have brought to the world. Any more questions? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Just fyi, I wasn't questioning the first sentence here. I was questioning the second sentence and how you know this. "MMY was saying that the TM practice can lead one to cosmic consciousness and enlightenment. Thus, one is freed from the bondage of actions and Karma in this lifetime. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yifuxero, I've read MMY's commentary to the B Gita several times over the years. And I've always found something insightful about TM and its relationship to the Gita. His commentary gives a first hand account of how to understand the the meditation experience as to what is transcendental conscious and when one has reached cosmic consciousness or God consciousness.. These terms are specific and are unique to the TM method. But the other meditation techniques probably have the same levels of consciousness but are labelled with different names. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thx Jr_esq for your comment below: "MMY was saying that the TM practice can lead o
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is the author of our actions?
Emily, The Gita states that humans are in bondage due to the gunas and karma. MMY mentions in his commentary that we are all affected by the gunas since these are related to the basic elements such as earth, water, fire, air and ether. Since we are composed of these elements, we are therefore affected by the gunas-- and so are the other living beings that inhabit the earth. The TM tradition interprets the method to avoid the influence of the "gunas" by merely being without them as stated in Chapter 2 of the Gita. This is the reason why TMers meditate to dispel these gunas. Hence, over time the meditator can learn to maintain transcendental consciousness or "bliss consciousness" during the waking portion of our life. Over time, the bliss consciousness can be maintained during the sleeping and dreaming stage of life. When bliss consciousness if permanently maintained during the various stages of life, the TM tradition states that the person has reached "cosmic consciousness", the level in which the person attains "heaven here on earth". These are all mentioned in MMY's commentary to the Gita. He also wrote about these in his "Science of Being and Art of Living". In my opinion, this is the gift that Guru Dev and MMY have brought to the world. Any more questions? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Just fyi, I wasn't questioning the first sentence here. I was questioning the second sentence and how you know this. "MMY was saying that the TM practice can lead one to cosmic consciousness and enlightenment. Thus, one is freed from the bondage of actions and Karma in this lifetime. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yifuxero, I've read MMY's commentary to the B Gita several times over the years. And I've always found something insightful about TM and its relationship to the Gita. His commentary gives a first hand account of how to understand the the meditation experience as to what is transcendental conscious and when one has reached cosmic consciousness or God consciousness.. These terms are specific and are unique to the TM method. But the other meditation techniques probably have the same levels of consciousness but are labelled with different names. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thx Jr_esq for your comment below: "MMY was saying that the TM practice can lead one to cosmic consciousness and enlightenment. Thus, one is freed from the bondage of actions and Karma in this lifetime. As such, it is possible to be detached or maintain Self consciousness permanently while engaging in actions while living here on earth. MMY coined the phrase, "heaven on earth." Right, that's MMY's opinion, but there are differences in some other Traditions. Also, the notion that Enlightened people are free from the bondage of karma, this may not be true. The Self is already free from karma no matter what state, but we are talking about the relative body and subtle body. How about the cases of notorious Enlightened (probably) Gurus who abuse women and are obviously greedy? Are they free? I dount it! Some example of different opinions in other Traditions: 1. In the Sant Mat Tradition, people are not free of karma until they are able to travel out of the body at will, including at the time of death. 2. In the Kriya Yoga Tradition,, freedom from the clutches of karma requires to signs of development:: First, Enlightenment, and Second, being able to travel out of the body at the time of death, (willfully and at the time of one's choosing)). This grants the candidate entry into the Higher astral plane, Hiranyaloka, which is occupied by many types of Beings, but also those Enlightened people who have not fully worked out their karma. But again, this is only for the advanced Enlightened people who can travel out of their bodies willfully at the time of death. Then, after staying in Hiranyaloka for a time and being instructed by Advanced Teachers such as Sri Yukteswar, only then are they able to access the Causal plane. All of this is discussed in the article "The Resurrection of Sri Yukteswar", (enter that into Google). It's a Chapter in Yogananda's Autobiography of a Yogi. SHALOM ."
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Who is the author of our actions?
Just fyi, I wasn't questioning the first sentence here. I was questioning the second sentence and how you know this. "MMY was saying that the TM practice can lead one to cosmic consciousness and enlightenment. Thus, one is freed from the bondage of actions and Karma in this lifetime. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yifuxero, I've read MMY's commentary to the B Gita several times over the years. And I've always found something insightful about TM and its relationship to the Gita. His commentary gives a first hand account of how to understand the the meditation experience as to what is transcendental conscious and when one has reached cosmic consciousness or God consciousness.. These terms are specific and are unique to the TM method. But the other meditation techniques probably have the same levels of consciousness but are labelled with different names. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Thx Jr_esq for your comment below: "MMY was saying that the TM practice can lead one to cosmic consciousness and enlightenment. Thus, one is freed from the bondage of actions and Karma in this lifetime. As such, it is possible to be detached or maintain Self consciousness permanently while engaging in actions while living here on earth. MMY coined the phrase, "heaven on earth." Right, that's MMY's opinion, but there are differences in some other Traditions. Also, the notion that Enlightened people are free from the bondage of karma, this may not be true. The Self is already free from karma no matter what state, but we are talking about the relative body and subtle body. How about the cases of notorious Enlightened (probably) Gurus who abuse women and are obviously greedy? Are they free? I dount it! Some example of different opinions in other Traditions: 1. In the Sant Mat Tradition, people are not free of karma until they are able to travel out of the body at will, including at the time of death. 2. In the Kriya Yoga Tradition,, freedom from the clutches of karma requires to signs of development:: First, Enlightenment, and Second, being able to travel out of the body at the time of death, (willfully and at the time of one's choosing)). This grants the candidate entry into the Higher astral plane, Hiranyaloka, which is occupied by many types of Beings, but also those Enlightened people who have not fully worked out their karma. But again, this is only for the advanced Enlightened people who can travel out of their bodies willfully at the time of death. Then, after staying in Hiranyaloka for a time and being instructed by Advanced Teachers such as Sri Yukteswar, only then are they able to access the Causal plane. All of this is discussed in the article "The Resurrection of Sri Yukteswar", (enter that into Google). It's a Chapter in Yogananda's Autobiography of a Yogi. SHALOM ."
[FairfieldLife] Re: YS: duHkha & viveka, part 5
Is it so, that anyone in at least CC is a vivekin?? Be it as it may, II 15 might be one of the most "Buddhist" suutras in YS: परिणामतापसंस्कारदुःखैर्गुणवृत्तिविरोधाच्च दुःखमेव सर्वं विवेकिनः॥१५॥ pariṇāma tāpa saṁskāra duḥkhaiḥ guṇa-vr̥tti-virodhācca duḥkham-eva sarvaṁ vivekinaḥ ॥15॥ [HA]: The Discriminating Persons Apprehend (By Analysis And Anticipation) All Worldly Objects As Sorrowful Because They Cause Suffering In Consequence, In Their Afflictive Experiences And In Their Latencies And Also Because Of The Contrary Nature Of The Gunas (Which Produces Changes All The Time). [IT]: To the people who have developed discrimination all is misery on account of the pains resulting from change, anxiety and tendencies, as also on account of the conflicts between the functioning of the Gunas and the Vrttis (of the mind). [VH]: [BM]: All life is suffering for a man of discrimination, because of the sufferings inherant in change and its corrupting subliminal impression, and because of the way qualities of material nature turn against themselves. [SS]: To one of discrimination, everything is painful indeed, due to its consequences: the anxiety and fear over losing what is gained; the resulting impressions left in the mind to create renewed cravings; and the constant conflict among the three gunas, which control the mind. [SP]: But the man of spiritual discrimination regards al these experiences as painful. For even the enjoyment o present pleasure is painful, since we already fear it loss. Past pleasure is painful because renewed craving! arise from the impressions it has left upon the mind And how can any happiness be lasting if it depends only upon our moods? For these moods are constantly changing, as one or another of the ever-warring gunas seizes control of the mind. [SV]: To the discriminating, all is, as it were, painful on account of everything bringing pain, either in the consequences, or in apprehension, or in attitude caused by impressions, also on account of the counter action of qualities. - The last four words: duHkham eva sarvaM vivekinaH. Taimni's translation: To the people who have developed discrimination all is misery... The original word-for-word would be: ...misery [is] verily all to a vivekin. That due to Sanskrit word order being way freer(?) than that of, say, English. Could that (viveka associated with [relative?] misery) be one explanation why apparently so many TM-siddhas discontinue the practice?
[FairfieldLife] Re: YS: duHkha & viveka, part 4
Well, viveka seems to be an essential aspect(?) of kaivalya ("enlightenment";
lit. isolation?), apparently
the goal (or stuff) of yoga-suutra.
The pinnacle(?) of samaadhi, dharma-megha-samaadhi is defined by Patañjali
like this (IV 29):
प्रसंख्यानेऽप्यकुसीदस्य सर्वथा विवेकख्यातेर्धर्ममेघः समाधिः॥२९॥
prasaṁkhyāne-‘py-akusīdasya sarvathā vivekakhyāteḥ dharma-meghas-samādhiḥ ॥29॥
[HA]: When One Becomes Disintereested Even In Omniscience One Attains
Perpetual Discriminative Enlightenment From Which Ensues The Concentration
Known As Dharmamegha (Virtue-Pouring Cloud).
[IT]: In the case of one, who is able to maintain a constant state of Vairagya
even towards the most exalted state of enlightenment and to exercise the
highest kind of discrimination, follows Dharma-Megha-Samadhi.
[VH]: [BM]: [SS]: He who, due to his perfect discrimination, is totally
disinterested even in the highest rewards remains in the constant
discriminative discernment, which is called dharmamegha (cloud of dharma)
samadhi. [Note: The meaning of dharma includes virtue, justice, law, duty,
morality, religion, religious merit, and steadfast decree.]
[SP]: [28] He who remains undistracted even when he is in possession of all
the psychic powers, achieves, as the result of perfect discrimination, that
samadhi which is called the “cloud of virtue”.
[SV]: [VN 4.28] Even when arriving at the right discriminating knowledge of
the senses, he who gives up the fruits, unto him comes as the result of perfect
discrimination, the Samadhi called the cloud of virtue.
The word viveka-khyaati is "interesting"; literally it seems to mean
"knowledge of viveka":
khyAtif. `" declaration "' , opinion , view , idea , assertion BhP. xi , 16 ,
24 Sarvad. xv , 201 ; perception , knowledge Yogas.
Hmmm...sarvathaa seems to, in this context, mean something like exceedingly,
entirely:
sarvathA ind. in everyway , in evńevery respect , by all means (often joined
with %{sarvatra} and %{sarvadA} ; also with %{api} ; with na , in no case "' ,
`" not at all "') Mn. &c. &c. ; in whatever way , however MBh. R. RPra1t. ;
altogether , entirely , in the highest degree , exceedingly MBh. Ka1v. Hit. ;
at all times MW.
Someone "having" viveka is called a vivekin.
So, dharma-megha-samaadhi seems to be based on "sarvathaa viveka-khyaati"
(-khyaater is ablative/genitive singular from khaati); perhaps we could
translate it very freely as "someone totally vivekin"?
