Re: [FairfieldLife] Sat., Dec. 12, 4 pm CT, Special Maharishi Video
meditators not welcome. The pompous elitists! On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 8:01 PM Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > *Forwarded from: *"TM Special Events" > [image: Transcendental Meditation] > DR. JOHN HAGELIN > > DECEMBER 10, 2020 > Just for Governors & Sidhas:Special Weekly Online Knowledge Meeting and > Super‑Radiance Group Program > > *Next: Saturday, Dec. 12, 4 pm CT* > > Dear US Sidhas and Governors, > > New Knowledge Series: 4:00 to 4:40 pm Central Time, just before Group > Program > > To complement our national Super-Radiance initiative, we now offer a > powerful and uplifting Zoom knowledge series, with special videos for > Sidhas and Governors, *every Saturday from 4:00–4:40 pm, CT (5:00–5:40, > ET; 3:00–3:40, MT; 2:00–2:40, PT) through the end of December*. *View the > national times below.* > <https://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=96756044&msgid=1314528&act=SYMF&c=381609&destination=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunications.tm.org%2F2020%2Fdocuments%2F2020_09_29_National-Super-Radiance-Times.pdf&cf=156893&v=a59cfb8cb8d6d15b27ebd60fb4f86c114119b159407a8d1f5d7b5191cf0f72f3> > > This week’s videos > >1. *4:00 pm (CT)*: Part 2 of *“Maharishi Reviews the World Situation >and the Need to Maintain Self-Referral Consciousness.”* (May 5, 1992; >28 min.) >2. *“The Origin of Yogic Flying®”* (April 18, 2002; Vlodrop, Holland; >13 min.) > > How do I connect? > >- *Connect via Zoom video:**https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89691355158* > > <https://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=96756044&msgid=1314528&act=SYMF&c=381609&destination=https%3A%2F%2Fus02web.zoom.us%2Fj%2F89691355158%250A&cf=156893&v=a01192b19d7f3b8e38f9c9911423df24b56f853bfe293c3119d4f37cc284eb34> >- *Connect by phone:* *646-558-8656* or *301-715-8592* or >*312-626-6799*. Then enter *Meeting ID 89691355158#* for all dates. > > We hope you can take advantage of this opportunity to continue creating > much‑needed unity and coherence for our whole nation. > > With best wishes, > > Dr. John Hagelin > President, Maharishi International University (MIU) > National Director, Maharishi Foundation USA > > Super-Radiance *lift-off times* for Yogic flyers > for all U.S. time zones > > Join the largest group of Sidhas doing Super-Radiance program together. > Connect by Zoom twice daily to *lift off at the following times* > <https://click.icptrack.com/icp/relay.php?r=96756044&msgid=1314528&act=SYMF&c=381609&destination=https%3A%2F%2Fcommunications.tm.org%2F2020%2Fdocuments%2F2020_09_29_National-Super-Radiance-Times.pdf&cf=156893&v=a59cfb8cb8d6d15b27ebd60fb4f86c114119b159407a8d1f5d7b5191cf0f72f3>. > The *times in bold below are the first priority for the whole country*. > They all connect by Zoom. Currently, due to a Zoom conflict, only the > second-priority times with an asterisk also have a Zoom connection. > > Eastern > > Morning: *9:15 am* | Evening: *6:45 pm* > > *Second-priority times:* > Morning: 7:45 am | Evening: 6:00 pm > > Central > > Morning: *8:15 am* | Evening: *5:45 pm* > > *Second-priority times:* > Morning: 6:45 am | Evening: 6:30 pm > > Mountain > > Morning: *7:15 am* | Evening: *4:45 pm* > > *Second-priority times:* > Morning: 8:00 am | Evening: 6:45 pm* > > Pacific > > Morning: *6:15 am* | Evening: *3:45 pm* > > *Second-priority times:* > Morning: 8:15 am* | Evening: 5:45 pm* > > Alaska > > Morning: *7:15 am* | Evening: *4:45 pm* > > *Second-priority times:* > Morning: 8:00 am | Evening: 6:45 pm > > Hawaii** > > Morning: *8:00 am* | Evening: *6:00 pm* > > *Second-priority times:* > Morning: 9:00 am | Evening: 4:45 pm > > © 2020 Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc., a non-profit educational > organization. All rights reserved. Transcendental Meditation®, TM®, and > Yogic Flying® are protected trademarks and are used in the U.S. under > license or with permission. > > > TM Special Events > Maharishi Foundation USA > PO Box 670 > Fairfield, IA 52556 > > > -- *Thank You,* *Peter A. Rousseau/Broker* *Rousseau Medicare Consultants LLC* *Phone: 804-564-1385* Metrofax: 1-804-533-1520 *rousseau...@gmail.com* This electronic mail message contains information that (a) is of, or may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED,CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) is intended only for the use of the Addressee (s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, using, copying, or distributing any part of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please contact us immediately and take the steps necessary to delete the message completely from your computer system. Thank you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] CDC: 59% of COVID cases are spread by people without symptoms
Theresa, My best advice would be stay strong and courageous and accept the Prarabdha. Do not resent it as it is your own doing, or my own, speaking for myself, as is everything in the final analysis. This attitude has helped me greatly. Whatever comes, comes and we must face it with courage. I accepted this when confronted with the prices for Jyotish and Yagyas. I said, 'the costs are ridiculous' and determined to take my destiny head on, come what may and promptly forgot about both; trusting in the Personal God for His protection and mercy. I am sorry for the health issues John and you are facing. it will all be okay. Know that we are all facing these realities. You are NOT alone. I recently had a number of tests for dizziness. All checked out well. Eye issues too! I do try to deal with things that I know and hate opinionism really. I, like you, have worked to improve the quality of my mind. Most have not ,because they do not possess the method or the discipline. That results in opinionism in my book. We do, by the grace of God, have the method to purify the mind and that is a huge difference maker, obviously. I do have great confidence in my positions; perhaps too much certainty, but I would never impose anything on anyone; I value compassion immensely as do you; strength too, both are essential. I speak what I believe I know and that all comes from within and I believe that is my right, within respected limitations, if I have come upon the knowledge. In any event I wish the very best for you and your husband. Namaste🙏 Peter On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 6:46 PM Theresa Olson theresaolson...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > Hi Peter > > Just balance > > Kin Chita Gita > > John had another surgery tomorrow on his eye: the fifth one in 3 years. > Cataract did not work first time. > So we tend to be grateful for all the preventative care my 78 year old and > I can get! Just a little less to be concerned with as we face challenging > health issues. > > Then I get varicose vein surgery. Ick but family genetics. > > We are surviving. > > Funnily enough, the isolation is actually helping us. > > Happy Thanksgiving and many happy celebrations to come! > > Theresa > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 22, 2020, at 5:39 PM, Peter Rousseau rousseau...@gmail.com > [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > > Theresa, > > I am so glad that you are out there and responding. So many points were > made in your post that I simply cannot adequately respond in this format. > We would need to be in each other's presence. The Gita says, 'a little of > this yoga delivers from great fear'. > > I will put my trust in the words of Krishna. > > Happy Thanksgiving and have the whole family there. > > > > On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 7:04 AM Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com > [FairfieldLife] wrote: > >> >> >> Hi Theresa, when I said pray to God but tie up yr camel, I meant, in this >> current context, meditate, but wear a mask, etc. Being well over 65, >> having >> Type A blood and high BP, what's common sense for me is to avoid going out >> as much as possible. But I pray for those suffering in hospitals and >> nursing homes and elsewhere. You too, be well, stay safe and radiate >> Truth. >> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, November 22, 2020, 02:03:42 AM CST, Theresa Olson >> theresaolson...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Which explains why Guru Dev died of throat cancer and Maharishi from >> congestive heart failure. >> >> Maharishi regularly said to fight to stay alive. Fight! Active verb. Not >> a quiescent state of surrender. >> >> God helps those who help themselves. >> >> Avert danger before it arises. >> >> Do unto others as you would have others do unto you >> >> I think common sense must be the leading factor here. >> >> Show compassion by caring for others. >> >> Peter and Sharon. Since you both are so strong, please go and volunteer >> at the hospitals where folks are suffering. Uplift them with your darshan >> and tell them your messages ge. Hold them in your arms as they die and let >> them know your point of view. >> >> Prove to me you are invulnerable to this disease and then we will trust >> you. >> >> I know I am not. >> >> Be well, stay safe and care. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Peter Rousseau rousseau...@gmail.com >> [FairfieldLife] wrote: >> >> >> >> Not to be contentious as that is not my intention, I do not believe that >> you even have to worry abo
Re: [FairfieldLife] CDC: 59% of COVID cases are spread by people without symptoms
Theresa, I am so glad that you are out there and responding. So many points were made in your post that I simply cannot adequately respond in this format. We would need to be in each other's presence. The Gita says, 'a little of this yoga delivers from great fear'. I will put my trust in the words of Krishna. Happy Thanksgiving and have the whole family there. On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 7:04 AM Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > Hi Theresa, when I said pray to God but tie up yr camel, I meant, in this > current context, meditate, but wear a mask, etc. Being well over 65, > having > Type A blood and high BP, what's common sense for me is to avoid going out > as much as possible. But I pray for those suffering in hospitals and > nursing homes and elsewhere. You too, be well, stay safe and radiate Truth. > > > > > On Sunday, November 22, 2020, 02:03:42 AM CST, Theresa Olson > theresaolson...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] > wrote: > > > > > Which explains why Guru Dev died of throat cancer and Maharishi from > congestive heart failure. > > Maharishi regularly said to fight to stay alive. Fight! Active verb. Not a > quiescent state of surrender. > > God helps those who help themselves. > > Avert danger before it arises. > > Do unto others as you would have others do unto you > > I think common sense must be the leading factor here. > > Show compassion by caring for others. > > Peter and Sharon. Since you both are so strong, please go and volunteer at > the hospitals where folks are suffering. Uplift them with your darshan and > tell them your messages ge. Hold them in your arms as they die and let them > know your point of view. > > Prove to me you are invulnerable to this disease and then we will trust > you. > > I know I am not. > > Be well, stay safe and care. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:07 PM, Peter Rousseau rousseau...@gmail.com > [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > > Not to be contentious as that is not my intention, I do not believe that > you even have to worry about the camel. The Guru Dev stated that we should > attach the mind, through our meditation, to Paramatma. That is the clear > instruction. Then, Paramatma, seeing everywhere, even this very place, > takes care of all the Devotees needs without PRAYER AND WITHOUT having to > ask; because it is His nature to solve all the issues of his Devotees > because he does not want them to suffer in any way. This is in His role as > Almighty Father. As a father I can attest that I wish to do the very same > thing for my children; unfortunately I am not Almighty. > > Jai Guru Dev! > > > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 1:41 PM Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com > [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > > Pray to God. But tie up your camel. > > > On Saturday, November 21, 2020, 12:01:40 PM CST, Peter Rousseau > rousseau...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] > wrote: > > > > > All Meditators, > > You are all Devotees of the Almighty, Omnipresent, Omnipotent Govinda. He > is your Ishta Deva and the Ishta protects one from Anishtam(calamity)(per > the Guru Dev). This is the promise of the Most High God! That is why we are > Devoted to Him(Ishwara). Do we not realize this? This is why we do what we > do; to eliminate from ourselves all limitation and weakness, living > thereafter under the infinite protection of the Personal God.. He has > promised to do this for all His Devotees. We need to be aware of this > tremendous advantage that Mahesh-Ji has bestowed upon us; a Diamond of > inestimable worth. > > If we know this and believe in the Infinite power of the Supreme Being, I > ask a simple question, 'what are we afraid of? If we are afraid of this > current pestilence, perhaps we do not realize the above and we are lacking > in Faith which we still need to possess even though we are systematically > replacing blind Faith with direct experience; a very big difference. Based > upon our direct experience we have faith that what we have not experienced > we will one day participate in. > > The Gods have no interest in causing the Devotees of Paramatma to suffer. > If this were so, then our meditation is not what we have been told that it > is and I know from my own experience that our meditation represents the > Highest Spiritual teaching available to mankind on this earth. > > Please stop cowering in and spreading fear and reflect the power that we > all are infusing daily from the Almighty Being to whom we are Devotees. > > Namaste🙏 > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 11:16 AM Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com > [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > > >- According to the CDC,
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Invisible Rainbow >> A History of Electricity and Life
Common sense and clear intuition. On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 10:11 PM Marty Davis martybigisl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > And your source of facts for these statements? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 6, 2020, at 4:36 PM, Peter Rousseau rousseau...@gmail.com > [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > > Irrelevant Marty. These people were seriously weakened by the presence of > significant underlying diseases. Those diseases and a weakened immune > function led to their deaths much more exactly than the presence of Covid.. > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 9:29 PM Marty Davis martybigisl...@yahoo.com > [FairfieldLife] wrote: > >> >> >> Tell the 220,000 people who have died that it’s not a big deal. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 6, 2020, at 4:13 PM, Peter Rousseau rousseau...@gmail.com >> [FairfieldLife] > > wrote: >> >> >> >> Covid totals mean nothing if 99%+ survive. Also, co-morbidities have >> resulted in most of the deaths; not Covid.Total deaths go way down >> considering the presence of diabetes, COPD etc; and hospitals are >> misleading us in the reports. Liars use statistics folks if they or their >> perspective benefits. >> >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 3:14 PM Bhairitu noozgur...@gmail.com >> [FairfieldLife] wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Do you have the EXACT numbers, Rick? How are they being tested? With >>> those worthless PCR tests? What planet or movie are you living in? ;) >>> >>> On 11/6/20 11:58 AM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Not sure what planet you live on but in the US here on Earth current >>> > daily Covid totals are recording-breaking. >>> > >>> > Rick Archer >>> > >>> > Buddha at the Gas Pump >>> > >>> > https://batgap.com >>> > >>> > *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>> > *Sent:* Friday, November 6, 2020 1:18 PM >>> > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>> > *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] The Invisible Rainbow >> A History of >>> > Electricity and Life >>> > >>> > You'll be happy to know that the pandemic is over now that silly season >>> > is over. Indeed it was much politicized including Amy Goodman at the >>> > opening for her Democracy Now! show over summer giving the daily covid >>> > stats. Nary a mention of it today. >>> > >>> > As I've said elsewhere what they should have done was convene a group >>> of >>> > leading scientists and epidemiologists rather than relying on Fauci >>> when >>> > about August they would have come up with solutions. >>> > >>> > On 11/5/20 7:14 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com >>> > <mailto:r...@searchsummit.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote: >>> > > >>> > > Interesting. I spent about 20 minutes skimming this. When I read >>> > > things like this, including the conflicting information about Covid >>> > > flying around, I wish that science could operate without economic or >>> > > political influence to determine what’s really going on. Since it >>> > > can’t, and since I’m not in a position to do this research, I can’t >>> > > reach firm conclusions. But for various reasons, including the health >>> > > issues covered in this article, I don’t use a cell phone. >>> > > >>> > > Buddha at the Gas Pump >>> > > >>> > > https://batgap.com >>> > > >>> > > *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>> > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >> > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>> >>> > > *Sent:* Sunday, November 1, 2020 5:18 PM >>> > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] The Invisibel Rainbow >> A History of >>> > > Electricity and Life >>> > > >>> > > This remarkably well-documented and -referenced book is a cornerstone >>> > > in the >>> > > sense that it traces the deployment of electricity in our >>> > > civilization, in terms of its interaction with living organisms, from >>> > > its initial discovery in the 1740s all the way to our time, and even >>> > > projected into the future. >>> > > >>> > > surprisingly without speaking about, it also explains 2020 ... >>> > > >&
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Invisible Rainbow >> A History of Electricity and Life
Irrelevant Marty. These people were seriously weakened by the presence of significant underlying diseases. Those diseases and a weakened immune function led to their deaths much more exactly than the presence of Covid. On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 9:29 PM Marty Davis martybigisl...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > Tell the 220,000 people who have died that it’s not a big deal. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 6, 2020, at 4:13 PM, Peter Rousseau rousseau...@gmail.com > [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > > Covid totals mean nothing if 99%+ survive. Also, co-morbidities have > resulted in most of the deaths; not Covid.Total deaths go way down > considering the presence of diabetes, COPD etc; and hospitals are > misleading us in the reports. Liars use statistics folks if they or their > perspective benefits. > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 3:14 PM Bhairitu noozgur...@gmail.com > [FairfieldLife] wrote: > >> >> >> Do you have the EXACT numbers, Rick? How are they being tested? With >> those worthless PCR tests? What planet or movie are you living in? ;) >> >> On 11/6/20 11:58 AM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] >> wrote: >> > >> > Not sure what planet you live on but in the US here on Earth current >> > daily Covid totals are recording-breaking. >> > >> > Rick Archer >> > >> > Buddha at the Gas Pump >> > >> > https://batgap.com >> > >> > *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> > *Sent:* Friday, November 6, 2020 1:18 PM >> > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> > *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] The Invisible Rainbow >> A History of >> > Electricity and Life >> > >> > You'll be happy to know that the pandemic is over now that silly season >> > is over. Indeed it was much politicized including Amy Goodman at the >> > opening for her Democracy Now! show over summer giving the daily covid >> > stats. Nary a mention of it today. >> > >> > As I've said elsewhere what they should have done was convene a group of >> > leading scientists and epidemiologists rather than relying on Fauci when >> > about August they would have come up with solutions. >> > >> > On 11/5/20 7:14 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com >> > <mailto:r...@searchsummit.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote: >> > > >> > > Interesting. I spent about 20 minutes skimming this. When I read >> > > things like this, including the conflicting information about Covid >> > > flying around, I wish that science could operate without economic or >> > > political influence to determine what’s really going on. Since it >> > > can’t, and since I’m not in a position to do this research, I can’t >> > > reach firm conclusions. But for various reasons, including the health >> > > issues covered in this article, I don’t use a cell phone. >> > > >> > > Buddha at the Gas Pump >> > > >> > > https://batgap.com >> > > >> > > *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>> >> > > *Sent:* Sunday, November 1, 2020 5:18 PM >> > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] The Invisibel Rainbow >> A History of >> > > Electricity and Life >> > > >> > > This remarkably well-documented and -referenced book is a cornerstone >> > > in the >> > > sense that it traces the deployment of electricity in our >> > > civilization, in terms of its interaction with living organisms, from >> > > its initial discovery in the 1740s all the way to our time, and even >> > > projected into the future. >> > > >> > > surprisingly without speaking about, it also explains 2020 ... >> > > >> > > just enjoy the summary ... >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > -- > > > > > > *Thank You,* > > > > > > *Peter A. Rousseau/Broker* > *Rousseau Medicare Consultants LLC* > > *Phone: 804-564-1385* > Metrofax: 1-804-533-1520 > *rousseau...@gmail.com* > > This electronic mail message contains information that (a) is of, or may > be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED,CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE > PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) is intended only for the use of > the Addressee (s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient, an > addressee, you are hereby notified that re
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Invisible Rainbow >> A History of Electricity and Life
Covid totals mean nothing if 99%+ survive. Also, co-morbidities have resulted in most of the deaths; not Covid.Total deaths go way down considering the presence of diabetes, COPD etc; and hospitals are misleading us in the reports. Liars use statistics folks if they or their perspective benefits. On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 3:14 PM Bhairitu noozgur...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > Do you have the EXACT numbers, Rick? How are they being tested? With > those worthless PCR tests? What planet or movie are you living in? ;) > > On 11/6/20 11:58 AM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] > wrote: > > > > Not sure what planet you live on but in the US here on Earth current > > daily Covid totals are recording-breaking. > > > > Rick Archer > > > > Buddha at the Gas Pump > > > > https://batgap.com > > > > *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > *Sent:* Friday, November 6, 2020 1:18 PM > > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] The Invisible Rainbow >> A History of > > Electricity and Life > > > > You'll be happy to know that the pandemic is over now that silly season > > is over. Indeed it was much politicized including Amy Goodman at the > > opening for her Democracy Now! show over summer giving the daily covid > > stats. Nary a mention of it today. > > > > As I've said elsewhere what they should have done was convene a group of > > leading scientists and epidemiologists rather than relying on Fauci when > > about August they would have come up with solutions. > > > > On 11/5/20 7:14 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com > > <mailto:r...@searchsummit.com> [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > > > > Interesting. I spent about 20 minutes skimming this. When I read > > > things like this, including the conflicting information about Covid > > > flying around, I wish that science could operate without economic or > > > political influence to determine what’s really going on. Since it > > > can’t, and since I’m not in a position to do this research, I can’t > > > reach firm conclusions. But for various reasons, including the health > > > issues covered in this article, I don’t use a cell phone. > > > > > > Buddha at the Gas Pump > > > > > > https://batgap.com > > > > > > *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>> > > > *Sent:* Sunday, November 1, 2020 5:18 PM > > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] The Invisibel Rainbow >> A History of > > > Electricity and Life > > > > > > This remarkably well-documented and -referenced book is a cornerstone > > > in the > > > sense that it traces the deployment of electricity in our > > > civilization, in terms of its interaction with living organisms, from > > > its initial discovery in the 1740s all the way to our time, and even > > > projected into the future. > > > > > > surprisingly without speaking about, it also explains 2020 ... > > > > > > just enjoy the summary ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- *Thank You,* *Peter A. Rousseau/Broker* *Rousseau Medicare Consultants LLC* *Phone: 804-564-1385* Metrofax: 1-804-533-1520 *rousseau...@gmail.com* This electronic mail message contains information that (a) is of, or may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED,CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) is intended only for the use of the Addressee (s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, using, copying, or distributing any part of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please contact us immediately and take the steps necessary to delete the message completely from your computer system. Thank you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Invisible Rainbow >> A History of Electricity and Life
Bhairitu, Congratulations on your analysis. You are spot on! 99%+ survival rate but look what we did to destroy many people's lives; add trillions to the national debt, see hard working business people have to close their business after years of effort. Evil and good fighting it out in the Higher realms but this fight is far from over. Thank you for discerning this and declaring it for all to see and reflect upon. 'Politics is folly' Plotinus 4th century Neo-Platonist. It sure is! How can we fool them today is the attitude and deceit is the method; and because the Universe is structured in Pure Integrity this approach must necessarily and ultimately fail. The Gods will not allow it to stand! Jai Guru Deva Peter Rousseau On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 2:17 PM Bhairitu noozgur...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > You'll be happy to know that the pandemic is over now that silly season > is over. Indeed it was much politicized including Amy Goodman at the > opening for her Democracy Now! show over summer giving the daily covid > stats. Nary a mention of it today. > > As I've said elsewhere what they should have done was convene a group of > leading scientists and epidemiologists rather than relying on Fauci when > about August they would have come up with solutions. > > On 11/5/20 7:14 PM, Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] > wrote: > > > > Interesting. I spent about 20 minutes skimming this. When I read > > things like this, including the conflicting information about Covid > > flying around, I wish that science could operate without economic or > > political influence to determine what’s really going on. Since it > > can’t, and since I’m not in a position to do this research, I can’t > > reach firm conclusions. But for various reasons, including the health > > issues covered in this article, I don’t use a cell phone. > > > > Buddha at the Gas Pump > > > > https://batgap.com > > > > *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > *Sent:* Sunday, November 1, 2020 5:18 PM > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] The Invisibel Rainbow >> A History of > > Electricity and Life > > > > This remarkably well-documented and -referenced book is a cornerstone > > in the > > sense that it traces the deployment of electricity in our > > civilization, in terms of its interaction with living organisms, from > > its initial discovery in the 1740s all the way to our time, and even > > projected into the future. > > > > surprisingly without speaking about, it also explains 2020 ... > > > > just enjoy the summary ... > > > > > > > -- *Thank You,* *Peter A. Rousseau/Broker* *Rousseau Medicare Consultants LLC* *Phone: 804-564-1385* Metrofax: 1-804-533-1520 *rousseau...@gmail.com* This electronic mail message contains information that (a) is of, or may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED,CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) is intended only for the use of the Addressee (s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, using, copying, or distributing any part of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please contact us immediately and take the steps necessary to delete the message completely from your computer system. Thank you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] > WHO & other experts now ADMIT global economic shutdowns for COVID-19 are WRONG
Amen! Finally. On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 12:51 AM email4you mikemail4...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > https://www.naturalhealth365.com/who-covid-lockdowns-3592.html > > In a reversal few saw coming but most understand, officials from the World > Health Organization (WHO) has finally condemned the global economic > shutdowns. Far from saving people’s lives, *these shutdowns have in > their estimation caused “irreparable damage” to citizens of the world* – > especially the most vulnerable among us – and have sparked a concerning > upward trend of poverty and mental health issues. > > The concern is so widespread and severe that epidemiologists from Stanford > University, Oxford University, and Harvard University have put together a > petition <https://gbdeclaration.org> calling to finally end the unethical > madness of COVID lockdowns. > > > * > > > > > Lockdowns for COVID Fail to Help | NaturalHealth365 > <https://www.naturalhealth365.com/who-covid-lockdowns-3592.html> > > Lockdowns for COVID Fail to Help | NaturalHealth365 > > (NaturalHealth365) The World Health Organization and other experts now > admit that COVID lockdowns are a big mist... > <https://www.naturalhealth365.com/who-covid-lockdowns-3592.html> > > > > In a reversal few saw coming but most understand, officials from the World > Health Organization (WHO) has finally condemned the global economic > shutdowns. Far from saving people’s lives, *these shutdowns have in > their estimation caused “irreparable damage” to citizens of the world* – > especially the most vulnerable among us – and have sparked a concerning > upward trend of poverty and mental health issues. > > The concern is so widespread and severe that epidemiologists from Stanford > University, Oxford University, and Harvard University have put together a > petition <https://gbdeclaration.org> calling to finally end the unethical > madness of COVID lockdowns. > > Great Barrington Declaration and Petition > > As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have > grave concerns about the damaging phy... > <https://gbdeclaration.org> > > > > > > -- *Thank You,* *Peter A. Rousseau/Broker* *Rousseau Medicare Consultants LLC* *Phone: 804-564-1385* Metrofax: 1-804-533-1520 *rousseau...@gmail.com* This electronic mail message contains information that (a) is of, or may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED,CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) is intended only for the use of the Addressee (s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, using, copying, or distributing any part of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please contact us immediately and take the steps necessary to delete the message completely from your computer system. Thank you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Former Pfizer executive says covid-19 “pandemic is over,” so-called “second wave” based on fraudulent testing
I agree completely with the evaluation Of Dr. Mike Yeadon, former Pfizer executive, on this COVID-19 pandemic hysteria. For political gain, and to destroy President Donald Trump, the political Left in the US has scared the American people to death over something with no more lethality than the yearly flu; we shut down the country, destroyed small business, closed the schools, printed trillions of dollars of fake money, caused 30 million people to be unemployed, robbed people of their constitutional rights, and, in many cases, mandated that people wear masks that are probably filthy from overuse and ineffective in the first place, to save us from the plague of the century; only it isn't true. It is fake, a phony crisis. If it was not so deeply tragic it would be hilariously funny. Even the corrupt Romans would have been hard pressed to think up a scheme as bad as this one has proven to be; and they were masters at it. -- *Thank You,* *Peter A. Rousseau/Broker* *Rousseau Medicare Consultants LLC* *Phone: 804-564-1385* Metrofax: 1-804-533-1520 *rousseau...@gmail.com* This electronic mail message contains information that (a) is of, or may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED,CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) is intended only for the use of the Addressee (s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, using, copying, or distributing any part of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please contact us immediately and take the steps necessary to delete the message completely from your computer system. Thank you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Sadhguru's motorcycle tour of spiritual America
I must admit to never having heard of the 'Sadguru' per se; The idea of this effort is interesting though. Claiming to be a 'Sadguru' is quite an assumption. I would not know how to prove the validity of the claim. Therefore I would not validate it by referring to him in that context. I just do not know; but the trip and the motive for it is refreshing and cool.. On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 12:13 PM William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: William Leed > To: William Leed > Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2020 12:09 pm > Subject: Fwd: Sadhguru's motorcycle tour of spiritual America > > > > -- Forwarded message - > From: *Dean Michael Anderson* > Date: Sun, Sep 20, 2020 at 9:31 AM > Subject: Sadhguru's motorcycle tour of spiritual America > To: Dean Anderson > > > OF Motorcycle And Mystic |Spritual America |SadhguruExclusive > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFbcT7F6qEg> > > OF Motorcycle And Mystic |Spritual America |SadhguruExclusive > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFbcT7F6qEg> > > > https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%23RideWithSadhguru > > > > > -- *Thank You,* *Peter A. Rousseau/Broker* *Rousseau Medicare Consultants LLC* *Phone: 804-564-1385* Metrofax: 1-804-533-1520 *rousseau...@gmail.com* This electronic mail message contains information that (a) is of, or may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED,CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) is intended only for the use of the Addressee (s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, using, copying, or distributing any part of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please contact us immediately and take the steps necessary to delete the message completely from your computer system. Thank you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] << o >> VEDIC WATER << o >>
Such a beautiful image and perfect analogy for the Reality of existence. -- *Thank You,* *Peter A. Rousseau/Broker* *Rousseau Medicare Consultants LLC* *Phone: 804-564-1385* Metrofax: 1-804-533-1520 *rousseau...@gmail.com* This electronic mail message contains information that (a) is of, or may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED,CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) is intended only for the use of the Addressee (s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, using, copying, or distributing any part of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please contact us immediately and take the steps necessary to delete the message completely from your computer system. Thank you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] New York Times: College towns around America becoming coronavirus hot spots, including Iowa City
Mega hugs to Theresa. Kindness is so kind. I will strive for it. On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 6:59 PM Theresa Olson theresaolson...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 1:42 PM Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com > [FairfieldLife] wrote: > >> >> >> Thank you Rick and Marty and Dick and hugs to Peter. > > > Dick, yes my niece and grand niece came down with Covid back in March. > Recovered but a scary time. Then there is a former friend of my stepson who > tested positive but came out ok after quarantine. Another grand niece went > to Alabama, from So Cal, to attend university there and has tested > positive. She is quarantined and not so well. I am sure there are more. > Tougher on the parents. So far no deaths. > > Rick. You created a belly laugh, thank you. I have found it challenging > interacting with folks in Fairfield after the paradise of teaching TM in > Maryland. Covid created a nice excuse to just stay quiet and at home. I > do love caring for animals. Unconditional love and trust, even among the > wild ones. They teach me what compassion truly is. Fascinating. I get why > God is so great: that infinite compassion for the constantly erring human.. > How lucky we are to have examples of living compassion surrounding us in > thought, word and deed. Ma comes to mind. > > And Dick, and Peter, the only way we can make wise and intelligent > decisions is by having a platform that presents varying points of view. > Maharishi used to suggest, get at least 3 Jyotishis not just one. See the > patterns. Truth remains steadfast. > > But be kind to one another. > > Consciousness and kindness > > Oh another thing Maharishi would constantly say to me: “Don’t expect > perfection in the relative”. By its very nature it fluctuates. But we > don’t need to find fault with others either. > Love knows no barriers. Love unifies. Let’s start living that 24/7. > > Love to you all > Theresa > > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Fairfield is full of crazy people who think they KNOW. And also plenty of >> sane ones. There are a few guys on Purusha who believe (or maybe they would >> say they KNOW) that the earth is flat. 50 years of meditation does not >> insure sensibility. >> >> This might add to the discussion: >> >> >> >> >> >> TWELVE STEPS ON HOW TO DISTINGUISH AN ACADEMIC THEORY FROM A CONSPIRACY >> THEORY >> >> by James D. Rietveld and his daughter Kristina V. Rietveld >> >> >> >> >> >> Originally my daughter and I posted this in August of 2016--this figures >> in her academic field as well (Communications), but with all the CONSPIRACY >> THEORIES going on as related to the CORONA VIRUS I've seen on >> >> Facebook and other places, this information is relevant again. Obviously, >> I am not doubting the legitimacy of the Virus itself or what it is doing, >> but I see many additional "spins" that are the product of conspiratorial >> thinking! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I am teaching a course on Conspiracy Theories as related to the Social >> Sciences in the Fall at Cal Poly Pomona. >> >> >> >> >> >> So let's get started: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>1. >> >>A Scientific Theory can be proven false, while a Conspiracy Theory >>can become more elaborate to accommodate new observations and so is >>difficult to disprove, morphing so as to circumvent possible challenges to >>the legitimacy of >> >>the theory. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>1. >> >>A Scientific Theory is not necessarily based upon a distrust of >>authority, while a Conspiracy Theory often has the distrust of authority >>and expert opinion at its central root. “Expert opinion" here is defined >> as >>opinions as expressed >> >>by government studies, academic research, and privatized think-tanks. >>They avoid evidence that goes through any legitimate peer review process. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>1. >> >>A Scientific Theory always examines the totality of the body of >>evidence within the context of any given propositi
Re: [FairfieldLife] New York Times: College towns around America becoming coronavirus hot spots, including Iowa City
Hey Rick nice try but you know nothing about the organic quality of my body coming in; or the constellation pattern governing my development; I know nothing of yours. So, you cannot really speak to the issue regarding my perspective or my capacity to discern Truth per se; I would not question yours. Let's just say I know my intuitional development from my experience. That seems MMY sustainable. It is not based upon 50 years only. 50 years taking into account the organic advantages or disadvantages of 1 person's nervous system when compared to another. I am not comparing you, or Teresa and myself here. I am just making the point. The body you came in with is a very big thing to consider here. Some can go faster than others and some favor certain abilities versus another person. Maybe you just do not like anyone speaking with certainty and confidence I suspect, and you immediately take a contrary perspective. That is perfectly fine. I get it and it is more interesting than what gets posted usually on this site. Take Care! On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 6:02 PM Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > Peter, you weren’t claiming a subjective opinion. You were claiming to > KNOW it due to your 50 years of meditation. Even now you’re capitalizing > Truth as if your view of the NY Times is absolute because of your years of > meditation. Well I’ve been meditating 52 years and have never missed one. > Does that make my view more valid? Theresa’s got us both beat by about 10 > years. If the number of years spent meditating is an indicator of > infallibility, then we should both defer to her. Here’s an objective media > bias chart: https://www.adfontesmedia.com/interactive-media-bias-chart-2/.. > The New York Times scores way better than Fox News, if that’s what you’re > alluding to. > > > > Rick Archer > > Buddha at the Gas Pump > > https://batgap.com > > > > *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > *Sent:* Sunday, September 6, 2020 2:44 PM > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] New York Times: College towns around > America becoming coronavirus hot spots, including Iowa City > > > > > > Teresa, > > > > I told you the Truth as I see it. I fail to see the invective in what I > said. The degrees are not impressive to me. You included them in your > initial message. What was the purpose in that addition? Impress me, > intimidate me? I have a B.A. and I could care less about it. I didn't > include it in my message because it doesn't matter. Today's Universities > are hardly the Academy of Plato, and M.A., Phd degrees,etc. do not confirm > that one really knows anything, do they? At best, some relative, evanescent > information. As I mentioned before, true learning comes from within; not > from living in an academic environment or reading books and studying > incessantly. MMY said that many times! Yes, compassion is important, but > misplaced compassion is foolishness and enabling. You are so full of love > to wish me a karmic debt. Thank you for your kindness! I certainly didn't > wish such a thing upon you and I still do not. Is that a karmic debt for > you? > > > > I suspect that I hurt your feelings in my initial response. For that I do > apologize! > > > > I thought that your support of a journalistic failure such as the NYTimes > was mind numbing. If you do not like that comment it is hardly invective. > It is my opinion on that journalistic device. Other publications do a much > better job than the Times. Perhaps you should look elsewhere for > information. > > > > Whatever I have come to gain from my meditation I gain from the Personal > God, in the purusha, and Maheshji was His agent and I honor Him best by > practicing unfailingly his meditation method as I have done for 50 years. > > > > Namaste🙏 > > > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 2:23 PM Theresa Olson theresaolson...@gmail.com > [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > > Maharishi designed my education so you also do not respect him. He > trained me in journalism; obviously you lack his training. > > > > Consciousness based is compassion based. > > > > Light of life nourishes, you need to learn how to do that. > > > > Yes, poison is effective, but you will need to be reborn to pay off the > karmic debt you are encurring by spreading invective. > > > > Avert your danger. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 6, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Peter Rousseau rousseau...@gmail.com > [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > > Teresa, > > > > I am not impressed by your degrees. Meaningless really! The only real > knowing comes from within and not from aca
Re: [FairfieldLife] New York Times: College towns around America becoming coronavirus hot spots, including Iowa City
Teresa, I told you the Truth as I see it. I fail to see the invective in what I said. The degrees are not impressive to me. You included them in your initial message. What was the purpose in that addition? Impress me, intimidate me? I have a B.A. and I could care less about it. I didn't include it in my message because it doesn't matter. Today's Universities are hardly the Academy of Plato, and M.A., Phd degrees,etc. do not confirm that one really knows anything, do they? At best, some relative, evanescent information. As I mentioned before, true learning comes from within; not from living in an academic environment or reading books and studying incessantly. MMY said that many times! Yes, compassion is important, but misplaced compassion is foolishness and enabling. You are so full of love to wish me a karmic debt. Thank you for your kindness! I certainly didn't wish such a thing upon you and I still do not. Is that a karmic debt for you? I suspect that I hurt your feelings in my initial response. For that I do apologize! I thought that your support of a journalistic failure such as the NYTimes was mind numbing. If you do not like that comment it is hardly invective. It is my opinion on that journalistic device. Other publications do a much better job than the Times. Perhaps you should look elsewhere for information. Whatever I have come to gain from my meditation I gain from the Personal God, in the purusha, and Maheshji was His agent and I honor Him best by practicing unfailingly his meditation method as I have done for 50 years. Namaste🙏 On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 2:23 PM Theresa Olson theresaolson...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > Maharishi designed my education so you also do not respect him. He > trained me in journalism; obviously you lack his training. > > Consciousness based is compassion based. > > Light of life nourishes, you need to learn how to do that. > > Yes, poison is effective, but you will need to be reborn to pay off the > karmic debt you are encurring by spreading invective. > > Avert your danger. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 6, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Peter Rousseau rousseau...@gmail.com > [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > > Teresa, > > I am not impressed by your degrees. Meaningless really! The only real > knowing comes from within and not from academic training. If you think the > New York Times is a reputable news source I am helpless in assisting you to > understand how wrong you are! Half the country would disagree with you, at > least. > > The quality of my discerning mind qualifies me to know Truth and falsehood > when I see it. Isn't that the point of our meditation, to really SEE, and > know the difference? That is the result of my dedication, discipline and > devotion to the Ishtadeva! I state this not to gloat but simply to state a > fact. That is precisely why I have meditated all these years; to acquire > this intuitive faculty of mind, so I could KNOW! > > Best Wishes, > > Peter Rousseau > Meditator 50 years Nov.19, 2020 > > > On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 12:11 PM Theresa Olson theresaolson...@gmail.com > [FairfieldLife] wrote: > >> >> >> Thank you Dick for this most informative article. When my husband and I >> go to Iowa City these days, I can sense sickness in the air. Before it >> was not so bad. I think there is only one case so far. >> >> I read what Peter wrote you. I do not think he is qualified to comment >> on the quality of journalism. NY Times is excellent and engaging and >> investigative. The paper has the reputation for ferreting out the truth >> that remains hidden underneath. Right now the country needs truth, not >> conspiracy theories. >> >> Please continue to share such stories with the community. You are a >> valued source of accurate information. >> >> Sincerely >> Theresa Olson, ma, ms, mdci, PhD. >> >> >> >> On Sep 6, 2020, at 10:08 AM, Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com >> [FairfieldLife] wrote: >> >> >> >> From today’s New York Times >> <06weekend-briefing-slide-SVYS-articleLarge.jpg> >> Kathryn Gamble for The New York Times >> >> 4. College towns around America are becoming coronavirus hot spots. >> >> About 100 college communities >> <https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/oB9GIrPM31lCjnonSZWZ3w~~/AQA~/RgRhNz_5P4QDAWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lm55dGltZXMuY29tLzIwMjAvMDkvMDYvdXMvY29sbGVnZXMtY29yb25hdmlydXMtc3R1ZGVudHMuaHRtbD9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD05JmVtYz1lZGl0X25uXzIwMjAwOTA2Jmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTIxOTYxJm5sPXRoZS1tb3JuaW5nJnJlZ2lfaWQ9NjE4NzQxNzYmc2VjdGlvbl9pbmRleD0xJnNlY3Rpb25fbmFtZT1iaWdfc3Rvcnkmc2VnbWVudF9pZD0zNzUzMyZ0ZT0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9MjNmNGZkNDQzOWQyOTQzZDc2M2RiNDJjZDliYzJkZTNXA255
Re: [FairfieldLife] New York Times: College towns around America becoming coronavirus hot spots, including Iowa City
Teresa, I am not impressed by your degrees. Meaningless really! The only real knowing comes from within and not from academic training. If you think the New York Times is a reputable news source I am helpless in assisting you to understand how wrong you are! Half the country would disagree with you, at least. The quality of my discerning mind qualifies me to know Truth and falsehood when I see it. Isn't that the point of our meditation, to really SEE, and know the difference? That is the result of my dedication, discipline and devotion to the Ishtadeva! I state this not to gloat but simply to state a fact. That is precisely why I have meditated all these years; to acquire this intuitive faculty of mind, so I could KNOW! Best Wishes, Peter Rousseau Meditator 50 years Nov.19, 2020 On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 12:11 PM Theresa Olson theresaolson...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > Thank you Dick for this most informative article. When my husband and I > go to Iowa City these days, I can sense sickness in the air. Before it > was not so bad. I think there is only one case so far. > > I read what Peter wrote you. I do not think he is qualified to comment on > the quality of journalism. NY Times is excellent and engaging and > investigative. The paper has the reputation for ferreting out the truth > that remains hidden underneath. Right now the country needs truth, not > conspiracy theories. > > Please continue to share such stories with the community. You are a > valued source of accurate information. > > Sincerely > Theresa Olson, ma, ms, mdci, PhD. > > > > On Sep 6, 2020, at 10:08 AM, Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife] > wrote: > > > > From today’s New York Times > <06weekend-briefing-slide-SVYS-articleLarge.jpg> > Kathryn Gamble for The New York Times > > 4. College towns around America are becoming coronavirus hot spots. > > About 100 college communities > <https://nl.nytimes.com/f/newsletter/oB9GIrPM31lCjnonSZWZ3w~~/AQA~/RgRhNz_5P4QDAWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lm55dGltZXMuY29tLzIwMjAvMDkvMDYvdXMvY29sbGVnZXMtY29yb25hdmlydXMtc3R1ZGVudHMuaHRtbD9jYW1wYWlnbl9pZD05JmVtYz1lZGl0X25uXzIwMjAwOTA2Jmluc3RhbmNlX2lkPTIxOTYxJm5sPXRoZS1tb3JuaW5nJnJlZ2lfaWQ9NjE4NzQxNzYmc2VjdGlvbl9pbmRleD0xJnNlY3Rpb25fbmFtZT1iaWdfc3Rvcnkmc2VnbWVudF9pZD0zNzUzMyZ0ZT0xJnVzZXJfaWQ9MjNmNGZkNDQzOWQyOTQzZDc2M2RiNDJjZDliYzJkZTNXA255dEIKAB35ulRf22qhSlISZGlja21heXNAbGlzY28uY29tWAQA> > across > the country, including Iowa City, above, have seen an increase in > coronavirus cases in recent weeks as students return for the fall semester. > The potential spread of the virus off-campus has deeply affected > workplaces, schools, governments and other institutions in local > communities. > > In the U.S., at least 51,000 coronavirus cases and at least 60 deaths from > the virus can be traced to American colleges and universities, a Times > survey found > <https://nl.nytimes.com/f/a/2EtaL-1YNgp__y23W3fsgQ~~/AQA~/RgRhNz_5P4QHAWh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lm55dGltZXMuY29tL2ludGVyYWN0aXZlLzIwMjAvdXMvY292aWQtY29sbGVnZS1jYXNlcy10cmFja2VyLmh0bWw_Y2FtcGFpZ25faWQ9OSZlbWM9ZWRpdF9ubl8yMDIwMDkwNiZpbnN0YW5jZV9pZD0yMTk2MSZubD10aGUtbW9ybmluZyZyZWdpX2lkPTYxODc0MTc2JnNlY3Rpb25faW5kZXg9MSZzZWN0aW9uX25hbWU9YmlnX3N0b3J5JnNlZ21lbnRfaWQ9Mzc1MzMmdGU9MSZ1c2VyX2lkPTIzZjRmZDQ0MzlkMjk0M2Q3NjNkYjQyY2Q5YmMyZGUzVwNueXRCCgAd-bpUX9tqoUpSEmRpY2ttYXlzQGxpc2NvLmNvbVgEAA~~> > . > > > > > -- *Thank You,* *Peter A. Rousseau/Broker* *Rousseau Medicare Consultants LLC* *Phone: 804-564-1385* Metrofax: 1-804-533-1520 *rousseau...@gmail.com* This electronic mail message contains information that (a) is of, or may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED,CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) is intended only for the use of the Addressee (s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, using, copying, or distributing any part of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please contact us immediately and take the steps necessary to delete the message completely from your computer system. Thank you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: MEET The Biden Family
William, Thank you for this post regarding the myth of Joe Biden the people's candidate. Four more Years!!! On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 1:54 PM William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] < FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Don Loos > Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2020 8:46 pm > Subject: FW: MEET The Biden Family > > > > > Subject: Fwd: FW: MEET The Biden Family > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Biden Family > > In 2017, Joe Biden’s niece, Caroline Biden, stole $100,000 through a > credit card scam, aka, GRAND LARCENY, but was able to cut a deal with > DEMOCRATIC NY prosecutor and got off scott free without either jail time or > probation. This was her second arrest. She was able to deal her way out of > the first one too. She has also been to rehab numerous times. > > > https://nypost.com/2017/06/09/joe-bidens-niece-dodges-jail-after-100k-credit-card-scam/ > > Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, was kicked out of the Navy for failing a > cocaine drug test. More: HOW DID HE EVER GET A Naval Officers direct > COMMISSION? Daddy fixed it! > > > https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/joe-bidens-son-hunter-kicked-out-navy-cocaine-n227811 > > Then Hunter divorced his wife, mother of his three daughters, after a year > long affair, to marry his brother’s widow. WHAT!!?? > > Over the course of the divorce, Hunter drained hundreds of thousands of > dollars from the couple's assets by "spending extravagantly on his own > interests" (including drugs, alcohol, prostitutes, strip clubs and gifts > for women with whom he had sexual relations), while leaving the family > with insufficient funds to pay legitimate bills. It actually was worse than > that, all outlined here: > > > https://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2017/03/02/kathleen-biden-files-divorce-hunter/98638454/ > > And this is all on top of the BILLIONS in compensation his father > dubiously arranged for him from communist China and Ukraine. > > > https://nypost.com/2018/03/15/inside-the-shady-private-equity-firm-run-by-kerry-and-bidens-kids/ > > Biden ’s daughter, Ashley Biden Krein, has been arrested several times for > drug charges. While he was V.P., she was videoed snorting cocaine, but the > news media decided that wasn't newsworthy and decided not to publish the > video. She hid out in the Veep's Delaware home for a week or so until > things blew over. > > https://nypost.com/2009/03/30/parties-pot-in-ashley-bidens-past/ > > Okay….. all God’s children got problems….but Damn., what if these > things had occurred with Trump's children The Trump kids are apparently > above reproach (if they weren't the media would surely have discovered it > by now), and Biden has a passel of miscreants.. But the Democrats are not > interested in subpoenaing all of the Biden children's bank and credit card > accounts, are they? Why haven't we heard any of this from the networks, or > read it in the "great" national newspapers? > > Nothing to see here! Just move along! …….Really? > > > NO! LET’S PASS THIS ON > > > > > > > -- *Thank You,* *Peter A. Rousseau/Broker* *Rousseau Medicare Consultants LLC* *Phone: 804-564-1385* Metrofax: 1-804-533-1520 *rousseau...@gmail.com* This electronic mail message contains information that (a) is of, or may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED,CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) is intended only for the use of the Addressee (s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, using, copying, or distributing any part of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please contact us immediately and take the steps necessary to delete the message completely from your computer system. Thank you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Excellent social distancing advice
Use Amrit Kalash and Ambrosia to improve the ability of the nervous system to fight illness and then forget about COVID 19. We are living in the midst of trillions of viruses; does anyone really think that this one is the one that will kill us all? Plus as meditators we live in the Grace of the Personal God protecting us from 'anishtam'. or catastrophe. Live a normal life realizing what a diamond Mahesh placed around your neck and forget this paltry faintheartedness. It was good enough for Arjuna. On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 1:40 PM Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > Please check my friend Jim Collins' excellent advice from Dr. Erin Bromage > on how to improve our social distancing skills and prevent Covid-19. > > https://www.notion.so/The-Bro-Formula-be929f93cacc4602ad451a83918e6b99 > <https://www.notion.so/360nexus/The-Bro-Formula-be929f93cacc4602ad451a83918e6b99> > > > -- *Thank You,* *Peter A. Rousseau/Broker* *Rousseau Medicare Consultants LLC* *Phone: 804-564-1385* Metrofax: 1-804-533-1520 *rousseau...@gmail.com* This electronic mail message contains information that (a) is of, or may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED,CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) is intended only for the use of the Addressee (s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, using, copying, or distributing any part of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please contact us immediately and take the steps necessary to delete the message completely from your computer system. Thank you.
Re: [FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] JOIN NOW! to appalud TRUMPS actions & 4 more years frely epressed in an open but NOT hostile form
William, Thank you for your response to my response to Dick Mays. I am pleased to note that there are at least a few conservatives at MIU. I see President Trump as the Savior of our Great Demoncratic Commonwealth; Really, it is just so obvious to me the role he is playing. He is a VERY GREAT American! I am in Virginia which has been entirely taken over by rabid leftists in recent years. It is the fault of Northern Virginia where all the swamp rats come to serve the interests of the deep state; and they have turned Virginia blue on that account. This year on November 19 fittingly, in the month of Scorpio, I celebrate 50 years of Meditation. Double Scorpio influence here as I turn 71 on November 2. Did you know that in the ancient world initiation was only allowed during the time the Sun was in Scorpio as it is the Home of the Mysteries; the great gateway to the Mysteries. An interesting tidbit indeed. Keep the faith out there William even though it is cause for concern that after years of meditation the bulk of the meditating community still is found floundering in ignorance and lacking in the ability of discernment;, lacking discrimination power. It is another very curious phenomenon to contemplate how that is possible. I was very pleased to hear from you. Best Wishes, Peter A Rousseau Mallorca 1972 On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 9:55 AM William Leed wle...@aol.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > Thanks Peter 4 sharing boldly your opinions! here & perhaps else where it > takes boldness to exercise our free speach now in many areas of our GREAT > country which has had & still has some imperfections but we are correcting > them. Too many of these protests & protesters are funded by Soros > <#m_-3971405134453960825_> who with others has supplied the mostly > peaceful folks with pre packaged bricks & stones delivered by trucks to the > cites for the infiltrating looters & rioters to mask there intent on civil > destruction & looting by turning protests to mobs & then break things to > pillage loot & burn, Its even in areas that are peaceful to proudly wear a > trump hat or offer civil discourse with such. Even in some 4 centuries > haven of free speach as too many of our universities perhaps MIU > <#m_-3971405134453960825_> an exception. Many conservatives in the > Fairfield community are crowed to silence , some (2 ) in fact have had > there red MAGA <#m_-3971405134453960825_> hat stolen or removed hidden or > lost to them even at the Raj <#m_-3971405134453960825_> ! Much of the > fake news applauds the Russian so called interferences ,(We have done such > the world over.)but that a different story)& now we find the Hillary > campaign was in fact behind it all, with the FBI & dept of INJUSTICE in > this matter. Still to be fully investigated the attempted over throw of a > duly elected president! I meditate regularly & applaud the increased > meditations in the domes the numbers there well increased to allow the > election of an a abrasive speaking soul to begin draining the swamps! And > who continues on our behalf improve things even with his abrasive speach. > 200 court originates judges plus, better trade deals with Mexico & Canada > where I sometimes reside & see as of 1 July20 its improvements in Ontario > Canada for all countries, S Korea, Japan , many in trade talks now > Australia n. Zeland , India Vietmam, the EU, UK especially! > Recognising the capitol in Isrial > Lowering drug prices 4 us all to be similar to the far cheaper prices in > Canada. > lowering coroprate taxes so our corpations can better compete in world > trading & reducing the return of capitol to our shores. > cutting red tape in construction approvals to years not decades > Prison reforms for us all & especially the miinority communities. > Reformed the VA system of hospitals so vetrans can be servieced > immediately & max 2 weeks & or fund proivate dotors to care for the same > immediately! & after 44 years all waiting for these changes & the firing > of those who do NOT well care for those in their care. > Begin to get NATO allies to pay there agreed to share 2% of GDP. > Best of all bring our troops home all about the world. > Assist India in its situations with it neighborders & giving them needed > military & satalite interesptions support so as to forstall several > attacks & in cursions. > Released some of our citizens no tax payer cost NOT PALLETS OF HUNDERS > DOLLAR BILLS DELIVERED TO IRAQ! > Got us out of the flawed Iraq deal allowing such to in 10 yrs have a bome > or before to attack Isrial WOW! > Have S.Korea increase there dollar support for our troops there. Same in > Japan & some in the EU as well. > Began at last to address P.R Chinas bl
[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] JOIN NOW! Ringo Starr's Big (80th) Birthday Show at 7:00 CDT
Hey Dick, Black Lives Matter. Really! Are you serious? Black Lives do not matter; only Black Votes Matter. 329 dead in Chicago this year and nobody gives a rip. The DLF should not want to share billing with the Marxist destroyers in the BLM movement. Neither should you support those America Hating Creep Marxists. Wake up Man!!! I thought meditation elevated consciousness. Give me a break! Peter Rousseau
Re: [FairfieldLife] The US trails its peers in fighting COVID-19
Please Dick this Covid thing is NOT a disaster. It is a politically motivated hit job on our President and the death rate is comparable to the yearly flu losses. Yet fascists in power in our country have succeeded in shutting down our economy and harming millions of Americans and destroying the rights of individual American citizens. Please stop the propaganda campaign. When you have the Personal God in your corner who is afraid of COVID-19? This is ALL politics brother; Marxist takeover of America. Trump 2020!!! Give me a break! Namaste🙏 Peter Rousseau On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 10:57 AM Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: > > > Stay Safe and Healthy. > > > https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/17/politics/donald-trump-leadership-coronavirus/index.html > The US trails its peers in fighting COVID-19 > > … The [COVID-19] disaster in the US is perhaps best expressed in > comparison to other industrialized nations. States such as South Korea > suffocated the virus with aggressive measures while Trump was still denying > its threat. France and Italy suffered terribly, but science-based lockdowns > kept in place until the pathogen was suppressed -- unlike the premature > state openings demanded by Trump -- worked. Aggressive foreign governments > from Australia to Hong Kong to Germany now pounce on outbreaks in a bid to > forestall a major resurgence. > France, with a population of 67 million, reported 534 new cases of > Covid-19 on Thursday and 18 new deaths. Florida, where 21 million live, put > up 13,965 new cases and a new record of 156 deaths on a day its pro-Trump > Gov. Ron DeSantis blamed the media for the virus running out of control. > ... > > > -- *Thank You,* *Peter A. Rousseau/Broker* *Rousseau Medicare Consultants LLC* *Phone: 804-564-1385* Metrofax: 1-804-533-1520 *rousseau...@gmail.com* This electronic mail message contains information that (a) is of, or may be LEGALLY PRIVILEGED,CONFIDENTIAL, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) is intended only for the use of the Addressee (s) named herein. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, using, copying, or distributing any part of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please contact us immediately and take the steps necessary to delete the message completely from your computer system. Thank you.
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no time for all the mail, folks, please unsubscribe me! Thanks! PS
Re: [FairfieldLife] Drummerworld: top 15 drummers of all time
Ringo? I think not! On Tuesday, October 8, 2013 2:46 AM, "cardemais...@yahoo.com" wrote: in alphabetical order: Louie Bellson John Bonham Dennis Chambers Billy Cobham Vinnie Colaiuta Steve Gadd Roy Haynes Elvin Jones Gene Krupa Joe Morello Buddy Rich Max Roach Ringo Starr Dave Weckl Tony Williams
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies
The antisaint policy is based in power and control as far as the TMO is concerned. If you want to be a slave to it and defer your thought process to the metaphysics of fear, then by all means go ahead!.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies
People are done with group practices. After 30 to 40 years of it you want to live your own life.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's Anti-Saint Policies
Well, if you really want to resolve this you simply build your own dome or flying hall. A master never releases his slave. The slave decides to no longer be a slave. To think that the TMO is ever going to change its position is a waste of time. Those people are simply lost in their own minds. If they ever experienced the fruit of TM/TMSP they would be free. But they very clearly don't , so they continue to rule in their fiefdom of thought.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: For MJ and the Turq
Ha ha! Whenever I see a David Lynch film I feel like I need to take a shower. Has anyone in the TMO seen his films? I kind of doubt it!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Do psychopaths misrule our world?
I agree. Trump and Gingrich are just narcissist. The more they are in the public eye, the more they expose their narcissism. They are not "psychopaths" a term no longer used in clinical psychology, they're just a couple of self-centered assholes. --- On Sat, 5/21/11, seekliberation wrote: > From: seekliberation > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Do psychopaths misrule our world? > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, May 21, 2011, 8:02 AM > I'd definitely put Trump high on the > scale. Gingrich on the other hand has his faults and > obvious failures, but I don't see him as a legitimate > "psychopath". Trump's extreme narcissism came out > during his supposed presidential candidacy and his 'birther' > campaign. Although I view him as not being a threat to > other's lives, his mindset is definitely way out in left > field and he is off track with reality. > > seekliberation > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "Yifu" wrote: > > > > http://www.truthout.org/do-psychopaths-misrule-our-world/1305907377 > > ... > > He mentions Trump and Gingrich but I don't believe his > list of characteristics fits those dudes, on the whole. > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo
Vaj wrote: And so therefore we provide a great and important service: helping people wake up to their own attachments. Vaj, I can only surmise that you're joshing because if you're not, this would be very sad indeed.
Re: [FairfieldLife] To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo
A couple of assumptions I make: 1)Nobody other than MMY and GD know what their relationship was. 2)What GD wanted MMY to do or not to do is only known to them. A couple of things I know: 1)For a murderous, con artist, MMY was certainly a blazing Ball of Brahman. 2)His non-functioning, useless techniques certainly are effective. 3)FFL is a wonderful toilet for people to take much needed shits in. Seriously, where else could you empty your bowels of this fetid crap? Count yourself blessed and truly in the Dharma! --- On Thu, 5/19/11, richardnelson108 wrote: > From: richardnelson108 > Subject: [FairfieldLife] To Vaj- The Magical Puja Placebo > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 6:38 PM > Hello Vaj- I could not help but > respond to your post #277247. > > Why do you continually feel the need to act like an expert > about things you know nothing about. > > You say we now "know two things". We do not "know" > anything. We do not "know" that Guru dev never > authorized MMY to teach. We do not " know" > that MMY kept the poem that the pundit wrote about Guru Dev, > even though he was told to throw it away. Where do you > get your facts from? > You make up these things to fit your point of view. > Nowhere in the story that MMY told about that poem (which is > the only source from which we even know this poem existed) > did he say he kept it, even though Guru Dev told him to > throw it in the Ganges. And it is clear that you know > nothing about MMY because the one thing you can bet your > life on is that if Guru Dev told MMMY to do something, it > would be done. You make assumptions based on nothing. > > Another great lie that you have continued to propigate in > past posts is that MMY poisoned Guru Dev. There has > never been any evidence that this is true. But yet you > continue to quote it as if it is scripture. > I am not saying that the poisoning or anything else you > mention is not possible, it just that we don't "know" > it I am simply saying there has never been > any evidence of this. If there is, please enlighten me > as to your sources. > Also you continually have mentioned in the past that MMY > wanted to get Guru Dev of the seat of Shankaracharya by > poisoning him, but for what purpose? MMY could not > have been given the seat himself and could gain nothing > about having one of his pals put in Guru Dev's place. > There's basicly no money or power of any significance in > being the Shankaracharya. Have you been to Jyotir Math > or Guru Dev's residence in Allahabad? I have and they > are nothing much to speak of. > Good vibes for sure, but far from opulent. > So oh wise and mighty Vaj, since you are always making the > point about MMY getting rid of Guru Dev, tell me what would > have been the point? > And by the way genius, the TM puja is traditional. > You hear it in temples, at by other swamis. MMMY did > say that he pieced it together. > But it did not come from some student of Guru Dev as you > say. You are only showing your ignorance. > So again I ask, what is this need you have to continue to > post as if you are an expert in something that you are not? > > Of course, I don't expect to get a response to this by Vaj > folks. He never responds to something when he is > proven to be a fake. > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo
--- On Thu, 5/19/11, turquoiseb wrote: > From: turquoiseb > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Magical Puja Placebo > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 8:33 AM > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > Vaj wrote: > > > > On May 18, 2011, at 3:40 PM, Xenophaneros Anartaxius > wrote: > > > > > Perhaps a useful question is this: just how deep > does the > > > "purity of the teaching" have to be to ensure > that a meditator > > > has a correct experience of TM, or some other > technique. From > > > what teachers told me, there seem to be two > elements. A mantra, > > > and the correct way to use it, which is the right > start of > > > meditation, and then everything mostly takes care > of itself. > > > > The simple answer is it needs to be an intact line > with an > > appropriate delivery method. We now know two things: > > > > 1. Maharishi was NOT authorized by Swami Brahmananda > to teach > > nor was he trained in how to do so. > > While, from what I hear, this is true, that doesn't > matter to me. The *whole TM technique* was made up. > So was the puja. Big whoop. > > > 2. Puja diksha is an authentic method for mantra > initiation, > > but it requires a) an authentic teacher, which Mahesh > was not, > > and b) an authentic means. The "puja" Maharishi > created is a > > hodge podge of different goods, tacked onto one > another. The > > important thing here is that we now know that the puja > is > > largely derived from a student of Swami Brahmananda > who was > > a poet and scholar. When Brahmananda was told of this > poem, > > poem, he explicitly asked Mahesh to destroy it and > throw it > > into the Ganges. Mahesh instead kept it and used it, > against > > the direct wishes of his guru. > > Again, big whoop. I don't buy *anyone's* definition > of "authentic," including yours, Vaj. While I under- > stand your right to believe in the Woo Woo Theory > Of Mantra Delivery, I don't see it as fundamentally > different than the TM TB's theory of why the puja > is so important. Both are based on a belief in the > essential Woo Woo nature of the puja, or of it some- > how "enlivening" the mantra, and both are based on > things somebody said, and that you seem to have > accepted as true. > > I've received mantra-based teachings adorned with > bells and whistles (a puja or something like it) and > I've received them with no fanfare whatsoever, the > mantra just being delivered (spoken aloud) to a group > of people in a room, all at once. I have never > perceived the slightest difference. > > Some may claim to, and that is their right. But I > cannot help but laugh at those who cling to the idea > that TM is somehow a "science," but who then cannot > even for a minute conceive of it not being taught > without the Magical Woo Woo Ceremony. > > To me clinging to the puja as magical while denying > that they believe in magic is akin to denying that > the TMO is fundamentally a religious organization > while attending the performance of a yagya. Just > doesn't compute. Is a puja necessary to learn TM correctly? I don't know. When I taught TM I always performed a puja because that's what I was taught. It was fun. Is the puja "scientific"? Of course not. To claim it is "scientific" shows quite a bit of ignorance regarding the basic definition of science. But that being said, I wouldn't dismiss the TM puja because of the powerful experience it can trigger. That effect is very real. Because the effect is real, perhaps one day a scientific explanation of it will come to be, but it will be not be with the science of today. > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Magical Puja Placebo
--- On Wed, 5/18/11, Bhairitu wrote: > From: Bhairitu > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Magical Puja Placebo > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 6:03 PM > On 05/17/2011 04:19 AM, Vaj wrote: > > Unhooking From Maharishi's Teachings: Laurie > Interviews Sudarsha about > > the Puja (Ceremony) > > Posted by Laurie at 5/14/2011 06:17:00 PM > > > > I (Laurie) left TM 30 years ago, after 10 years in the > TM movement, > > and I have been "deprogramming" myself ever since. I > now believe that > > everything I was taught on the TM Teacher Training > Course while I was > > "rounding" (meditating many times a day) bypassed my > critical > > thinking, and went straight into my belief system. > Therefore, even > > today I am still finding unexamined beliefs inside > myself that hook me > > into Mahesh Prasad Varma's system. (According to > Wikipedia, "Mahesh > > Prasad Varma" may be Maharishi's given name.) > > > > One of those beliefs was that the puja had magical > powers. Mr. Varma > > told us that the word "puja" translates as > "traditional ceremony of > > gratitude," but most other translators say it means > "worship". On my > > TM Teacher Training Course in La Antilla, Spain, in > 1974, Mr. Varma > > taught us that the puja must be performed before the > person is > > instructed in TM. Without it, he said, TM cannot be > successfully > > learned or practiced. He gave quasi-scientific and > quasi-mystical > > reasons why this was so; and I was left with fear and > trembling for > > the sacred, God-given puja. > > > > Therefore, it was helpful to my recovery to learn that > after his > > disillusionment with Mr. Varma's movement, Sudarsha, > (one of the > > co-editors of TM-Free), successfully instructed many > people in TM > > without first chanting the puja. > > > > (...) > > > > I tend to ignore these threads because too many people who > did TM didn't > move on to other traditions or organizations and learn some > of the > actual information on how these things are supposed to > work. Anyone who > knows what shakti does and knows what the TM puja is would > know it was > used to "charge" the mantra given with shakti. Those > who don't > experience shakti or maybe just don't know what it is even > though they > have increased shakti will think that is hooey. In > other traditions the > guru would observe and after the disciple is considered to > have enough > accumulated shakti to transfer it during an > initiation. The TM puja was > implemented so that people with far less experience and > accumulation > might still empower a mantra. That part of TM I have > no problem with. > > Some here have argued they have taught meditation without > using a puja > but then we don't know how much shakti they have already > accumulated. > Some people may have been born with enough shakti to > empower a mantra. > But when you teach en mass you need a way to assure that > the technique > works for everyone. These ex-TM people who spent a decade or less in the TMO and then spend the rest of their lives "coming to terms" with their cult "indoctrination" make me scratch my head. This whole discussion of the puja comes out of a complete lack of experience with the subtle aspects of the puja. If you don't experience it, like Bhairitu said, it will be all nonsense to you. If you experience it, the puja is a powerful yagya that produces powerful subtle shakti that saturates your consciousness and the environment. > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: robert cox
I was just thinking of Rob yesterday wondering where he was and what he was up to. What a great guy. Email?--- On Tue, 5/10/11, Rick Archer wrote:From: Rick Archer Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: robert coxTo: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comDate: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 10:56 AM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of vickicrocco2001Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 7:18 PMTo: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.comSubject: [FairfieldLife] Re: robert cox thank-you so much. He said in his last book he did not expect to be on the planet much longer... just wondering. any more news on the pillar of celestial fire? VRob is living high in the Himalayas, meditating most of the time. Here’s a photo he sent:
Re: [FairfieldLife] SPECIAL COURSES IN HE BRAHMASTAN OF INDIA
This looks great. I'd love to go for a few weeks. --- On Tue, 5/10/11, nablusoss1008 wrote: From: nablusoss1008 Subject: [FairfieldLife] SPECIAL COURSES IN HE BRAHMASTAN OF INDIA To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 4:49 AM Float in enlightening knowledge— Maharishi's historic lectures, expressly chosen for these courses. Dive deep in your practice of the Transcendental Meditation® and TM-Sidhi® programs in the silence of the Brahmasthan. Melt into the incomparably rich experience of daily live recitation by Maharishi Vedic Pandits. Enjoy the spiritual atmosphere, delicious food, and beautiful walks in this oasis of Vedic Civilization. We are pleased to announce the start of special courses for Governors, Sidhas and Meditators at the new International Course Campus (Bijauri) of the Global Capital of Raam Raj at the Brahmasthan of India. Come enjoy the profoundly nourishing, all-pervading silence created by more than 1400 Maharishi Vedic Pandits performing daily Maharishi Yagyas® for world peace, affluence, and harmony in this powerful center of the Land of the Veda, where a group of 8,000 Vedic Pandits is being established. This is enough to ensure the good fortune of our whole world family for generations to come. Courses will be offered in one-week blocks starting every Sunday. We encourage everyone to stay as many weeks as possible, to allow ourselves this rare opportunity to sink more and more deeply into the profound silence. Course participants will enjoy extended practice of the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi programs, group Super Radiance, inspiring video lectures of Maharishi, and delicious vegetarian meals. Every day, Maharishi Vedic Pandits will come to the Bijauri Campus to perform live Vedic recitation specific to the day. Upon arrival, you will be welcomed to a newly-built, beautifully appointed suite with bedroom, sitting room, and private bath. Keep in touch via in-suite high-speed internet and relax on the beautiful grounds, which will entice you for long walks amidst the silence of the Bijauri Campus. Madhya Pradesh, the state where the Brahmasthan is located, is rich in spiritual diversity and outstanding natural beauty. The serene and auspicious Narmada River, with its marble cliffs and waterfalls, flows through Jabalpur, the closest city to the Brahmasthan. Our course office can arrange optional trips for you to nearby places of interest including boat rides on the holy Narmada River, visits to ancient temples, and tours of Maharishi Vidya Mandirs (Maharishi Schools), where thousands of students are enjoying Consciousness-BasedSM education. The opportunity to attend courses at the Brahmasthan, the heart of India, is one of Maharishi's precious gifts to us all— a place where the meditating family can enjoy the very essence of Vedic life– Yoga and Yagya–in the divine silence of eternal Vedic India. One-week course fee (room and board): $775 per week single occupancy $550 per person per week double occupancy Courses are offered in one-week blocks. Stay for as many weeks as you like! There are only 50 suites available for the first season of courses. We encourage you to apply soon! For more information or to apply visit www.MaharishiIndiaCourses.com We will be happy to help you in every way to make your stay a most enjoyable and profound one. To send any questions, please click here or email i...@maharishiindiacourses.com © 2011 Brahmananda Saraswati Foundation. Transcendental Meditation®, TM-Sidhi®, and Consciousness-Based are protected trademarks and are used in the U.S. under license or with permission.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A short lesson in logic for JohnR
I think all of you need to get laid more often.and if you live in Fairfield you definitely need to eat a chicken sandwich. --- On Sun, 5/8/11, John wrote: > From: John > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: A short lesson in logic for JohnR > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, May 8, 2011, 3:37 PM > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "PaliGap" wrote: > > > > > > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Barry > > > > > > Me and Curtis, not so much. We > don't hold much of anyone's > > > > > > declarations to be Truth, just > because they said them. > > > > > > > > > > Judy > > > > > Curtis isn't questioning the premise > that the universe > > > > > had a beginning, actually. > > > > > > > > > > I hadn't been but in my most recent > post I may be changing > > > > > my mind. Although the universe in > its present form is > > > > > thought to have a beginning and may > have a starting point, > > > > > the matter contained in it may > not. It may have all been > > > > > contained in the inconceivable density > of the singularity > > > > > that existed before the big bang. > > > > > > > > It's an odd thing this. I think we are > almost unavoidably > > > > thinking of Time as a backdrop "within > which" the Big Bang > > > > happened. e.g. "the inconceivable density of > the singularity that > > > > existed before the big bang". > > > > > > > > But there is no "before the Big bang". Time > itself emerged (is > > > > that the right word?) at the Big Bang. At > least that's how I > > > > understand it. > > > > > > Yup, that's what they say. > > > > Now I've caught up I see you have been making just > this point! > > > > PaliGap, > > > 1.> But I'm not sure it's getting home? John - you say > "This is the way I understand the present cosmology as > well. There is no present > > method in science to determine what happened 'before > the Big Bang'". > > But it's not for want of capability to probe that far, > or for > > not having the method. As Hawking would have it, > you're trying to > > ask "what's north (on the globe) of the north > pole?"> > > According to reviews of Hawking's latest book, he has > apparently changed his mind again about his previous > position about the Big Bang. He is now saying it is > possible to know what happened before the Big Bang. As > such, he opines that there is no need for a God. > > IMO, this is a rather presumptious opinion considering that > he is a quadraplegic, and can't speak with his own > voice. But then again human beings have the free will > to speak his or her own mind. > > JR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I find myself, like Barry, intuitively drawn > to eternalism. > > > > Why could there not be a sequence of Bangs? > But then you have > > > > to stop yourself, swallow hard, and try to > intone until it > > > > starts to sink in: "No, there WAS no > *before*, No, there WAS > > > > no *before*..." > > > > > > On the other hand, there's a sense in which we > can say > > > that the universe "always" existed, since there > was no > > > "time" when it didn't exist. > > > > Indeedy. Good point. It makes me think that Big Bang > cosmology > > is perhaps best thought of as neither eternalist nor > creationist. > > > > Of course just when you think it's safe to dip your > toe in > > the cosmological waters (quagmire?), something pops > up > > to rock the boat. I saw a program recently in which > Penrose > > put forward his idea of a cyclical universe (which to > be honest > > I would *prefer* to believe in, though what my > preferences > > should have to do with anything, I don't know!). > > > > The idea (if I get it correctly) is like that > Yin/Yangy thing > > whereby if you push something to its complete extreme, > it > > turns into its opposite. > > > > In this case he seems to think that if you extrapolate > into > > the VERY far distant future, at extreme entropy the > universe > > shares key characteristics of the extreme singularity. > So, > > puff! there you go again... > > > > http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/44388 > > > > (Any congruence between Penrose's actual views and my > > cartoon characterization above would be purely down > to > > chance. But in an infinite universe, anything that is > > *possible* not only CAN happen, but has already > happened > > an infinite number of times to date. So we can't rule > > out my having gotten it right. But don't bet on > it...). > > > > > I think the idea that the universe didn't have a > beginning, > > > all the evidence that it did notwithstanding, is > actually a > > > function of the inability to conceive of there > having been > > > no "before" that beginning. > > > > > > It's very much akin to the terror many people > feel at the > > > notion
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thou Shall Not Proclaim Oneself Enlightened!
I think the need not to defend any "position" is the hallmark of psychological maturity. Most defensive behavior is simply for our own sake. Who actually is "converted" by any argument. That is any argument that doesn't involve torture! ;-) --- On Thu, 5/5/11, turquoiseb wrote: > From: turquoiseb > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thou Shall Not Proclaim Oneself Enlightened! > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 3:49 PM > Been on the road for a couple of days > and reading FFL > sporadically, so I missed this. Good thread, and good > comments all around. > > The "need to defend" has always struck me as the anti- > thesis of awakening, not the essence of it. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > Peter L Sutphen wrote: > > > > If "you" are there, then "you" aren't here. In fact if > > > there's you in any shape or form, then you're deep in > > > the do of Maya. Perhaps quite sattvic, but still > > projected into conditioned existence. > > > > On May 5, 2011, at 10:45 AM, "martyboi" > wrote: > > > > > SSRS said something like awakening leads to "I > don't know." > > > and since I definitely know that I don't know, > maybe I am > > > "there" already? ;-) > > > > > > My *guess* is that awakening doesn't encompass > the need to > > > defend oneself or one's path or group...nor does > it invoke > > > the need to criticize people who remain in a > group or move > > > on from that group. I "imagine" it involves the > simple > > > acceptance of what is: the knowingness that all > is wisely > > > set and okay exactly as it is without the need to > modify, > > > teach, enhance, understand, or fix anyone or > anything. > > > > > > This doesn't mean that you become a useless blob, > as we > > > know from MMY's Bagavad gita - the enlightened > spontaneously > > > work for the "welfare of the world" (Gives 'em > sumthin' to do, > > > whilst "remaining eternally un-involved,"non-doer > immutable" > > > and all that.) > > > > > > Perhaps awakening also includes the understanding > that ones' > > > experience of "consciousness" requires a POV > (think seer)and > > > there's a multiplicity of POVs out there and so > defending > > > one's viewpoint is just sort of a fun sport, but > not required? > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thou Shall Not Proclaim Oneself Enlightened!
If "you" are there, then "you" aren't here. In fact if there's you in any shape or form, then you're deep in the do of Maya. Perhaps quite sattvic, but still projected into conditioned existence. Peter On May 5, 2011, at 10:45 AM, "martyboi" wrote: > SSRS said something like awakening leads to "I don't know." and since I > definitely know that I don't know, maybe I am "there" already? ;-) > > My *guess* is that awakening doesn't encompass the need to defend oneself or > one's path or group...nor does it invoke the need to criticize people who > remain in a group or move on from that group. I "imagine" it involves the > simple acceptance of what is: the knowingness that all is wisely set and okay > exactly as it is without the need to modify, teach, enhance, understand, or > fix anyone or anything. > > This doesn't mean that you become a useless blob, as we know from MMY's > Bagavad gita - the enlightened spontaneously work for the "welfare of the > world" (Gives 'em sumthin' to do, whilst "remaining eternally > un-involved,"non-doer immutable" and all that.) > > Perhaps awakening also includes the understanding that ones' experience of > "consciousness" requires a POV (think seer)and there's a multiplicity of POVs > out there and so defending one's viewpoint is just sort of a fun sport, but > not required? > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Apology to the forum, and thanks for responses
Brian, this is far, far from a group of true believers! --- On Wed, 5/4/11, brianbmurr wrote: > From: brianbmurr > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Apology to the forum, and thanks for responses > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, May 4, 2011, 2:23 PM > I am very sorry for my second post to > this forum and want to thank those that overlooked my post > and responded with info about spirituality in Fairfield. > > The only excuse I can provide is that I had wrongly pegged > this forum as a group of true believers. I guess I was just > looking for an excuse to flame out on the TB crowd. > > Many of your informative posts made it evident that I was > wrong and you correctly labeled me an asshole. I wrongly > judged you and you returned the favor by labeling me. > > Thanks very much for the info. > > I think the TMO is at a crossroads. One of 2 things will > happen: > > 1. They will collapse under their own weight of lies, > deceit, false research, and extravagant claims (I was at MIU > when the first "study" came out showing increased longevity. > MIU made posters and started a whole new slogan of > immortality.a bit of a stretch imo:) > > If/when they collapse, I was feeling out what other > spiritual endeavors are supported by the FF community. Buck, > thanks for that link. > > 2. They will be forced to evolve and start doing honest > research and open it up to legitimate scientific > collaboration on consciousness research, which is becoming > really hot right now. Sadly, they could have been at the > forefront of a huge thrust of current research if they did > not have such a closed ideology from the start. That is why > Larry Domash left. That is why Marvin Minsky from MIT ripped > them a new a-hole in an on campus interview that I was at. > That tape will never see the light of day. > > Again, sorry for misjudging this group!!! > > Brian > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Thinking about moving back to Fairfield
An easy drive to Madison? Man, you must have a fast car! --- On Tue, 5/3/11, Sal Sunshine wrote: > From: Sal Sunshine > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Thinking about moving back to Fairfield > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 9:09 PM > Hi Brian, > Firstly, I see you made the cut. May > I be the first to offer my heartfelt congratulations. > Many have tried, but few have succeeded~~glad to > see you're amongst the Chosen. :) > > Now, on to your questions...firstly, don't believe > everything you read. (Just out of curiosity, where > have you been reading about little old Fairfield?) > Most of us former TMers are living here just fine > without the TMO. Nobody in town gives any credence > to the east-facing loonies, and my suggestion is that > you don't either. However, if you really are still > into all the rules and regulations, > Vedic City would probably be a better fit. No > worries~~ > it's just a mile away. > > Bevan may still be officially president of MUM, but > nobody ever sees him and many wouldn't even > recognize him. > > I can't give any info on the Rajas because that's > not exactly the crowd I hang with. Undoubtedly > others know more. > > As far as keeping people in line goes, I hear they > are practically begging people to come to the Domes, > and even paying by the month. I'm not sure what > line you're referring to, but nobody not closely > involved with MUM pays much attention to what > goes on there. We use their pool and steer > clear of anything else. > > I hope that answers some of your questions. > Why not visit and see how you like it? There > are some nice coffeehouses and it's an easy drive > to Iowa City, Chicago, Madison etc. > > On May 3, 2011, at 6:18 PM, brianbmurr wrote: > > Hi All, > > I may know some of you from 79-80 when I was there. I am > thinking about moving back after 30 years. > > Would I get culture shock? I helped build the first dome > and that was cool. Life was simple, and we were all on the > same mission. > > Now I read that my house has to face east, Bevan is still > there, Larry Domash is long gone and there are lots of guys > that paid a million bucks to wear a crown. What is up with > thatkinda scary IMO. > > So, my earnest question is..if I return, is there still > the spirit of a cause for enlightenment and making the world > a better place? Also have the gestapo gone away, or are they > still a force to keep us in line? > > Thanks in advance for any input, this is a big decision. > > Brian > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thinking about moving back to Fairfield
Gee Brian, why the pissed-off response? Maybe nobody who lives in Fairfield saw your question yet. --- On Tue, 5/3/11, brianbmurr wrote: > From: brianbmurr > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Thinking about moving back to Fairfield > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 10:21 PM > No replies? > > OK, that answers my question. You are all lost in your self > creted world, outside of reality, while thinking you are > creating reality. > > Has anyone here done anything to help the poor or homeless, > Japan? Oh, yea do a yagya, but don't get your hands dirty. > Go to your dome that I helped build when intentions meant > something other than narcisistic fantasy's. > > Good luck on your fantasy, that is all it is. > > Brian > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "brianbmurr" wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I may know some of you from 79-80 when I was there. I > am thinking about moving back after 30 years. > > > > Would I get culture shock? I helped build the first > dome and that was cool. Life was simple, and we were all on > the same mission. > > > > Now I read that my house has to face east, Bevan is > still there, Larry Domash is long gone and there are lots of > guys that paid a million bucks to wear a crown. What is up > with thatkinda scary IMO. > > > > So, my earnest question is..if I return, is there > still the spirit of a cause for enlightenment and making the > world a better place? Also have the gestapo gone away, or > are they still a force to keep us in line? > > > > Thanks in advance for any input, this is a big > decision. > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness
This is why the argument that has been postulated here that enlightenment is simply a deluded state of conceptual self-fulfillment is absurd. Going from waking state to CC is a complete shattering of all concepts regarding enlightenment. What you think CC will be in waking state has very little to do with the actual "experience" of it. But it is still good to have these concepts because once you are realized, you can really understand them for the first time. 'Witnessing", "Unboundedness" "non-doing"; these terms meant one thing in waking state and they mean something completely different in realization. Now they actually "point" towards something, as it were and help the mind cope. --- On Mon, 5/2/11, whynotnow7 wrote: > From: whynotnow7 > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 6:45 PM > Yeah, logically there has to be > conditioning prior to permanent awakening. But that > isn't necessarily the same thing as recognizing it as such, > as it happens. I recall despite the underlying conditioning > towards support of awakening (which was creating a huge > cognitive dissonance in the background, and more and more in > the foreground), I had built quite a secure structure I > thought, on which to hang my beliefs and judge everyone and > everything accordingly. > > You can imagine how flimsy a structure that was. So > although the conditioning was there, I also was unable to > see reality or more accurately experience it, until this > very distracting structure crumbled. And it did, very > quickly. And that is why I experienced such a drastic > transition, even though as you say, the foundation had to > already be there to support it. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > Bhairitu wrote: > > > > On 05/02/2011 12:36 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "wayback71" wrote: > > >> Rick > > >> This is one of the most heartfelt, direct and > moving accounts. > > >> Thank you. > > > I agree that this is a nicely done, low-key rap, > and I > > > commend whoever wrote it for that. I might have > some > > > writerly quibbles about some of the language, > like > > > "CC arrived" and "had come," because my similar > exper- > > > iences, although more fleeting, had no sense > whatsoever > > > of there being anything new, anything that had > "arrived" > > > or "come." It was more like finally noticing what > had > > > always already been present, every minute of my > life. > > > > > > What I'd be interested in, if this person ever > feels > > > like writing it up, is whether he/she can > pinpoint any > > > ways in which this subjective realization has > been of > > > benefit to anyone else. That's the "missing > component" > > > of pretty much all of the raps about > enlightenment I > > > run across. It's almost as if the process of > "self > > > realization" can be described more accurately as > > > "selfish realization" in most of them. All that > seems > > > to "matter" is the person's subjective sense of > their > > > own subjective state of consciousness. We never > hear of > > > ways in which this subjective state proves itself > of > > > value to anyone else in the objective world. I'd > like > > > to hear more about that. > > > > > > > Logically CC should not be a binary experience. > IOW, a switch goes on > > and you're there. It would be gradual. For > instance someone noticing, > > as they did years ago, that they seemed to no longer > come "out" of > > meditation and that the experience of the > transcendence was there along > > in activity. It might be a mild experience of it > but it *is* there. > > And more particularly over time should grow. So > some of these things > > are "flash" experiences or a spike in the experience > but I wouldn't say > > they "popped into CC". They were already there. > > > > TM'ers seem to be in this mode that only a few achieve > enlightenment but > > I found in India people expected folks practicing > sadhana to get there > > and it was not that uncommon. > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness
I think you have to leave a pretty big allowance for individual differences. I'm always suspect to a certain degree of someone talking about CC as "I" felt this and "I" experienced that. My experience of CC was a sudden violent transition of individual identity to no localization at all in about 3 seconds. But does this mean everybody has to experience that? I used to think so, but now I don't to a certain degree. The intellect is less arrogant, I guess. Why do you say that "logically" CC would not be a binary experience? Any experience is a condition of mind. Often people confuse sattvic states of mind as Being. Even Maharishi used to talk this way (he knew it wasn't true) of "infusing being". Of course it's ridiculous. He was just entertaining us. I can't grok a "gradual" experience of CC. You're bound, even in great sattva, one moment, and then, in some weird magical way that consciousness that you call "me" suddenly opens into its non-localization. Truly a "Holy shit" moment if there ever was one. You can't even really talk about it. It sounds ridiculous. "Hi. I'm not here" No truer words could ever be spoken, but nobody gets it if they are not realized. "I was never born and will never die" "I am not personal or impersonal" "I have nothing to do with anything" "Everything is in me, but I am not" Yeah, that's some real clear shit! So, I hope this guy is awake to "his" own ineffable Being; that he belongs to the "holy shit" club who's members gather once a year and walk around in stunned silence alternating with periods of hysterical laughter at the indecipherable and indescribable absurd beauty of pure existence. --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Vaj wrote: From: Vaj Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 5:35 PM On May 2, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Rick Archer wrote: From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bhairitu Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 2:18 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: An Example of Cosmic Consciousness Logically CC should not be a binary experience. IOW, a switch goes on and you're there. It would be gradual. For instance someone noticing, as they did years ago, that they seemed to no longer come "out" of meditation and that the experience of the transcendence was there along in activity. It might be a mild experience of it but it *is* there. And more particularly over time should grow. So some of these things are "flash" experiences or a spike in the experience but I wouldn't say they "popped into CC". They were already there. TM'ers seem to be in this mode that only a few achieve enlightenment but I found in India people expected folks practicing sadhana to get there and it was not that uncommon. In my experience talking to people, some experience a clear demarcation, but most ooze into it. You can get wet getting caught in a sudden downpour, or you can get wet walking in a heavy mist. Either way you’re wet, but in the latter case, you can’t really say when it happened. Then they might be experiencing growing awareness or just relaxation, but it very likely not turiyatita. The transition to CC or turiyatita, at least the way yogis have been experiencing it for thousands of years is described as a "violent digestion". Not "It seemed so delicate, fragile, almost shy. I did not expect it to last." While poetically beautiful and it's nice to hear people experiencing relaxation and enjoyment, it's also important not to jump to exaggerations, flights of quiet fancy or beliefs one's merely acquired and grafted onto obsessions.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Vaj's Cosmic Consciousness
Vaj, so what you are saying is that categorically no TM/TM-Sidhi practitioner could ever become enlightened because the technique(s) are fundamentally flawed. So all reports of enlightenment experiences are either lies are conditions of mind? --- On Mon, 5/2/11, Vaj wrote: From: Vaj Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Vaj's Cosmic Consciousness To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 2, 2011, 3:03 PM On May 2, 2011, at 2:43 PM, emptybill wrote: It would be so much easier for you if your would write and then store on your computer a simple statement that TM practitioners cannot and will never become "enlightened".You could also throw around a couple of phrases like "nitya-samadhi" or "bhava samadhi" and categorically deny that these states of consciousness are possible for anyone doing TM.You could even opine that TM practitioners can't go beyond asmita because they indulge in laya during meditation. Any TM-er claiming to do so then automatically becomes a layin yogi like Maharishi.Why don't you write it up now? It would be so very good-ol' buddi-suttwa of you.It would be easier to point to the science done on yogis in turitatita and then show a brief synopsis of the physiological changes in long-term TMers. My fave was when the TM Org issued press releases on their long waited for CC'er: he'd been found and they had the EEG's to prove it! And then the Enlightened One left, finding out he had a rare type of sleep disorder that kept him from falling completely asleep! I say give 'em more rope and watch them hang themselves; I mean it's endlessly entertaining and chronic narcissism is relatively harmless.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fake photo of Osama's death
I not sure if I'm dead.... Peter On May 2, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > On May 2, 2011, at 7:31 AM, Vaj wrote: > > > On May 2, 2011, at 8:27 AM, raunchydog wrote: > >> Osama Bin Laden is dead – prove it >> http://blogs.reuters.com/russell-boyce/2011/05/02/bin-laden-is-dead-prove-it/ >> >> BIN LADEN DEAD Updates >> http://hotair.com/archives/2011/05/01/breaking-obama-to-address-nation-at-1030pm-eastern-time/ > > > Where's his death certificate!? I bet he doesn't have one! > > I'll bet he really died in Kenya... > > Sal > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] A blow-hard Baba ?
Why even judge if you have absolutely no relationship to the man. Peter On May 2, 2011, at 8:59 AM, "Buck" wrote: > Ramdev, > > The key to healthy living, according to Baba Ramdev, is knowing how to > breathe. > > He claims to keep no personal wealth for himself, but the organisation he > runs is hugely rich. > > It is a simple message that has won the yoga teacher, or guru, from a poor > north Indian background, fame, fortune, an extraordinary self-confidence, his > very own Scottish island, and a platform for some strong and controversial > opinions. > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13219273 > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Estes Park Facebook Reunion page
What year ? Peter On May 2, 2011, at 7:33 AM, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > > On Apr 30, 2011, at 3:47 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > >> Quite the list. When did Mary Drew pass away? She had a serious brain injury >> from a freak car accident, but I doubt it was from this. I used to rent a >> room from her in Fairfield some decades ago. >> Stroke. >> > > Rick, wasn't some kind of respiratory ailment involved? > Maybe the respiratory thing brought on the stroke? > Who knows. It was sad either way. A few months > before she died she had written one or more letters > to the editor complaining of some construction in > the area that was affecting her breathing. Like Mark > Meredith, it sounded to me like something that could > have been prevented. > > Sal > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Estes Park Facebook Reunion page
Yeah, everybody who ever practiced TM is a total worthless piece of materialistic shit. --- On Sat, 4/30/11, Vaj wrote: > From: Vaj > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Estes Park Facebook Reunion page > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 11:36 AM > > On Apr 30, 2011, at 7:55 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > > > Might be of interest to some who were there. The page > is > > "public," and so you might be able to see it even if > you > > are not a FB member: > > > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=121201097900267 > > > > List of names from the course, some photos, and a few > > discussions on the Wall page. Enjoy. > > > There's no better way to keep up on where spiritual > materialism is today than to check out what old TM teachers > are up to. All seem to be peddling something. > > bob is now in his 5th decade of guiding others along the > path of Spiritual Enlightenment > > Under bob's tutelage, by harmoniously combining the > principles of Meditation, Yoga, Breathing, Channelling and > Lifestyle with the Divine teachings of Buddha, students are > able to dramatically improve their own lives and become a > positive force for Spiritual Wellness for their loved ones > and those around them. > > -- > > > Learn THE LOVEMAKING PROCESS® > In Workshop, Private Session or Telephone Session > > -- > > Try John Gray's Superfood Shake (as seen on TV). [I could > feel my bowels moving just reading the list of > ingredients!] > > -- > > [I bet the FDA would LUV to hear about this!:] > > "AGING OUTRAGEOUSLY WELL - How to Save Your Own Life and > Have Fun Doing It" > > I've studied the intriguing challenge of spirited, healthy > longevity for over twenty years. Now I'd like to share > with you some vital longevity study results that will help > you to reduce your risk of age-related illnesses like heart > attack, arterial blockage, type II diabetes, cancer and > Alzheimer's, and help you to live a long, fit and healthy > life, right on into your 90's and beyond. You'll find my > comprehensive program for achieving a fit long life in my > new book or we can work together (by phone, online or in > person) to help you achieve your goals. > > -- > > She leads a 4 piece ‘ukulele band, swims with and > photographs dolphins in the wild. > > -- > > The 12 Core Dynamics of Common Problems—How to Get Out of > Your Own Way seminar led by Tom Stone provides new insights > and personal development techniques to debug and upgrade > your personal inner human software. Now you can easily find > and open the door of that cage and step out into a life of > freedom, progress and joy! > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Estes Park Facebook Reunion page
Quite the list. When did Mary Drew pass away? She had a serious brain injury from a freak car accident, but I doubt it was from this. I used to rent a room from her in Fairfield some decades ago. --- On Sat, 4/30/11, turquoiseb wrote: > From: turquoiseb > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Estes Park Facebook Reunion page > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 10:26 AM > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > tartbrain wrote: > > > > Everyone at that course should write a short essay > "Did I > > Find What I was Looking For". > > Everyone on that course, hell. I think all of us > should write such an essay. I will if you will. > Really. > > > While some will repeat Bono's refrain, others > > may gush buckets of blissy bliss. A few might > > suggest that "looking for, desperately desiring > > and seeking the desireless state is folly -- > > though entertaining to watch, like a dog chasing > > its tail. The grass is never greener over > there." > > On the other hand, if you're a limber enough dog > to actually catch your tail (as mine are), I have > it on good authority that tail is a delicacy. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > Might be of interest to some who were there. The > page is > > > "public," and so you might be able to see it even > if you > > > are not a FB member: > > > > > > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=121201097900267 > > > > > > List of names from the course, some photos, and a > few > > > discussions on the Wall page. Enjoy. > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Nude Spiritual Awakening
I can only conclude that this was Nabby having some fun! ;-) --- On Sat, 4/30/11, tartbrain wrote: > From: tartbrain > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nude Spiritual Awakening > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, April 30, 2011, 12:47 AM > Teacher arrested after nude > 'spiritual awakening'13:30 AEST Sat Apr 30 2011 > > A US teacher arrested after he stripped naked and walked > through a school told police he was in the midst of a sudden > spiritual awakening. > > Harlan Porter, 31, from Morrow in the state of Georgia, was > arrested on April 22 and charged with public indecency for > his naked performance at BC Haynie Elementary School, the > Smoking Gun reported. > > Police found Porter in the teacher's lounge after staff at > the school called police at about 3.20pm local time when > they saw him undress and walk through a school building. > > When questioned by police, he said he had "reached a new > level of enlightenment" and he wanted people to be free "now > that his third eye was open," according to a police report. > > Porter had recently learned the school was not going to > renew his contract, but said he wanted to continue > teaching. > > He said he wanted to teach "on a new level, with hands in > the earth, gathering the essence and learning how to love > one another and fully appreciate the spiritual realm," The > Smoking Gun reported. > > Staff at the school said the 31-year-old was a vegan who > avoided canned drinks, drugs and alcohol —: though on the > day of his arrest he was spotted drinking a coke and eating > tacos. > > Officer Khari Reed also wrote in the report that Porter was > diagnosed schizophrenic several years ago, though the > school's principal told police there had never seen any > "strange behavior" from the 31-year-old. > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mt. Athos featured on 60 Minutes
Damn hammer! Peter On Apr 29, 2011, at 9:39 AM, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote: > > So your beef with me is that I don't buy that you have a special relationship > with the creator of the universe, right? > > The little routine that you are above the "whore intellect" isn't fooling > anyone here either. > > Poor carpenter blames his tools. > > > > > >> >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" >> wrote: >>> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" raviyogi@ wrote: >>>> >>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Nice piece, Dude. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, nice to hear from you Edg. >>>> >>>> >>>> Wow Curtis & Edg - amazing discussion. Let me sum this up for others >> who might be too intellectually deceptuously challenged - in plain >> English the summary would be - "my shit doesn't smell any better or >> worse than yours, but your shit stinks and mine's amazingly fragrant." >>> >>> So you were thinking that if you ran trollish behavior on a spiritual >> list it wouldn't be noticed and identified as trollish behavior? >>> >>> The troll routine is soo 1999 Ravi. It isn't new, and it isn't >> interesting. Jump into the deep end and discuss what you disagree with >> if you want to become more than a troll interloper here. >>> >>> >> Very funny Curtis, that you can't even see the pun shows how full of >> intellectual garbage you are or may be you snort TM all day? You have to >> use 1000 words whereas I just need one sentence, how's that for brevity. >> I'm not here to indulge your whore(intellect) - you are already too >> fascinated with it. Tough luck pal. >> > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mt. Athos featured on 60 Minutes
Good stuff, Curtis. Where you're coming from is why the Buddha told everyone to please kill him if you meet him in the road. All these external forms of spirituality must die for authentic spirituality to be born. Many, of course, get stuck in the external form seemingly forever. Like those infamous dome-zombies (I'm sure we know most of them!) who have dedicated their lives to an external form of spirituality that apparently, for them, has never transcended the form. Forms are the boats that take you across. But once you get close to the other shore you can just jump in and swim the rest of the way...or you could ride it right in. It doesn't really matter. But one thing is clear, you leave the friggin' boat behind! --- On Wed, 4/27/11, curtisdeltablues wrote: > From: curtisdeltablues > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mt. Athos featured on 60 Minutes > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011, 11:25 AM > I had such a charming time with the > Cistercian monks when I was into spirituality that I have > continued an appreciation for their alternative > lifestyle. Sort of how I view people way into the > tattoo culture, interesting, but I keep my distance. I > certainly dig the chanting and the Jungian animous/anima > imagery of all the dudes singing Salve Reginia to an image > of Mary. I'm sure if I was to step into a monastery > today I would happily slip into the the kind of trance I > used to love so much in unlimited doses back in the day. > > But I have to say that watching these guys on Mt. > Athos made me feel as though I was watching people who > had decided that rather than being open to life on its own > terms and discovering truth, they had opted for dictating > what they collectively decided truth is and then were only > going with that. It frankly smacks of good old > fashioned small mindedness. There is way too much surety in > their surety for me to respect them. It seems a bit > dishonest, slippery, as if they are in collusion in a "we > state it so it is so" game. > > When I was into the idea of God and of life's meaning being > fixed on maxing out my experience of him, I viewed these > guys as the badass bikers of spirituality. I mean once > you accept the premise of spirituality, it does make some > sense to go for it. Not even letting your "small boss" > get in the way. That was the thinking I had when I > went off to Sidhaland. I wanted to put all my eggs > into that basket. (while curiously hamocking my actual eggs > in a loin cloth) It was a life full of the surety I see in > the Athos monks. We KNEW KNEW. Really, we were sure of > it. Placing our irrefutablity on what we thought was > the solid ground of our mystical experiences, we lacked the > epistemological tools to question it all. We had been > taught the way to evaluate it by the same guy who was > pitching us his version of reality. So it all fit so > nicely, purfectly. > > I've been wrong about a lot of things in my life. > Really important things. Things I had believed were > irrefutable. So now I have a bit more humble pie on my > dinner table and a whole lot more of a "relly" in my > reaction to people who get into groups and decide they know > how it all really really is, beyond doubt, beyond the grave > and beyond what I now have accepted is the human > condition. We aren't nearly as clever as we think we > are. It is software bug that we need to respect more > if our goal is to go beyond, "hey me and Fred and Sam have > all decided WHATEVER and so we are all going on a lifetime > sleepover to reinforce to each other how much we are sure > this is what's up. Fer relll." > > And if you sat down with these guys they would give you > some great impression of humility and a rap about how they > are innocent and open to where their life leads them. > They may actually believe that they are open-minded. > But they are playing with a stacked deck and their openness > is carefully proscribed to the very limited range that wont > rock the boat. They are not getting out of that boat > into the big old ocean of "not so damn sure about the Jesus > thing". > > I fell into a nice routine at Sidhaland. It was a > carefully regulated life that had its slightly mind numbing > charms. And I know that some people are really not > capable of being mainstreamed so this kind of safe > environment is the best place for them. > > But I would rather take the bitter pill of "you don't have > life all figured out" over their lives full of being busy > being busy. They max out their schedules in Athos so > they never have to sit in some real uncoerced silence and > face the dilemma of being human without a manual spelling it > all out. I am glad they found something they like to > fill their day with. But 10 minutes for meals is just > disrespectful to the kind of food I like to eat. And > huddling together in a fabricated reality is a pretty cheap
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pandit-Projekt/ update.
And they still won't let you see where the money goes. A you need to trust us because Maharishi put us in charge so we're trustworthy. I have no problem with Steve, John and Benny, but once it hits India, all bets are off. --- On Mon, 4/25/11, Buck wrote: > From: Buck > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pandit-Projekt/ update. > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 12:49 PM > It is interesting to see who the > principle people are inside with this memo. It's been > nearly three years since they took the reins of TM from > Maharishi. Going forward, is anything really being > done differently or is it just business as usual? How > is it going? > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > Tom Pall wrote: > > > > > > 2011/4/18 merlin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Pandit-Projekt* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wonder why the TMO felt it necessary to include > this part? > > > > > > > > > *Transparency of the money flow* > > > Time and again we are - even in the conference > and then - asked about the > > > accountability and transparency of the money > flow. > > > There are those of Maharishi personally selected > and used Rajas and > > > Ministers: Bevan Morris, John Hagelin, Benny > Feldman, Harris Kaplan and > > > Steven Rubin. See also http://www.vedicpandits.org > > > They form the Executive Board of the BST, > including the BST-Europe in > > > Holland, whose account we recommend. > > > Raja Harris, whose response we will add that very > clear: > > > "The account of the Brahmananda Saraswati Trust > has five executive board > > > members, myself Dr. Bevan Morris, Raja Hagelin, > Raja Steven, and Dr. > > > Feldman. The financial reports of this Trust are > approved by this executive > > > board and indeed by the full board of all the > Rajas and Ministers. In > > > addition to these above, so there is supervision > by Rik Jung and Kees van > > > den Bremer. " > > > Raja Harris is regularly during the winter months > (October to March) in > > > India, the Brahma Than, works closely with Dr. > Girish Chandra Varma, who is > > > in India, the responsible leader of Maharishi > personally called to - and > > > thus monitors the progress as one can see also > from his newsletters. > > > We all have confidence in Maharishi. When we > apply this simple confidence in > > > his stewards. > > > > > > > Jeez, this is a real interesting memo. > > > > Going forward, is their's a problem that they just > can't show their financial statements? You know, > income statement, expenses, balance sheet, cash > statement? Different from publicly filing > some tax forms forms where it can all appear legal in the > sense of a tax form but not tell much about how well > something is going. > > > > Is there something wrong inside that they just can't > show their financials publicly on a web page, somewhere? > > > > JGD, > > -Buck in FF > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
RE: [FairfieldLife] About the Amma Cult
People are so lost in their thoughts and concepts. Go with your direct experience. The rest is ridiculous. Who cares what collection of concepts you have that says right,right, right, wrong, wrong, wrong. And then people run out to "warn" others as if nobody but they have the true understanding of what is really going on. And all the time that divine is present in all it's infinite profundity, just right there. Right there pulling that absurd ego right into it stripping everything.Be as little children; open, clear, simple. --- On Sun, 4/24/11, Rick Archer wrote: From: Rick Archer Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] About the Amma Cult To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, April 24, 2011, 9:40 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Pall Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 8:17 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] About the Amma Cult http://www.experiencefestival.com/wp/article/outsider-vs-insider-doctrine-of-the-hugging-saintwho’s behind this site? The Bhagavan & Amma people who give diksha? That’s my impression, but it’s hard to tell.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Neo-Advaita revisited
That's a great article! --- On Fri, 4/22/11, Yifu wrote: > From: Yifu > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Neo-Advaita revisited > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, April 22, 2011, 8:20 PM > on "Eastern Spirituality"...imo: > there's Advaita and Pseudo-Advaita (or Neo-A), not East or > West. > ... > Neo-A revisited... > http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/neo-advaita.html > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Movie: "Hanna"
Turq, I almost walked on this one. Sure, the girl's a sweet babe, and I've always loved C.B., but good lord, what a typical cliched spy-sleeper, rogue agent, DNA manipulation yawn fest. --- On Thu, 4/21/11, turquoiseb wrote: > From: turquoiseb > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Movie: "Hanna" > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, April 21, 2011, 5:32 PM > Excellent thriller, starring two > great actresses. One, > 41 at the time of filming, has had decades to establish > her 'street cred' as an actress, to the tune of four > Oscar nominations and one Oscar win. The other is a > lightweight by comparison, and has only been nominated > for one Oscar. But then she's only 16. Cate Blanchett > is good in this movie, but Saoirse Ronan is much, much > better. Imagine that. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zd4zGt13IE > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Harris speaks on the Brahmasthan of India
I actually hate being that cynical. Actually I'm not that cynical. I walk around in transcendent bliss all the time. So, I don't even know where that comes from! I've gained so much from TM that all the other crap doesn't even matter. Like being given the best sports car in the world, a Ferrari Enzo and complaining that there's some lint in the glove box. This is outrageous. lint!!! --- On Wed, 4/20/11, wayback71 wrote: > From: wayback71 > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Harris speaks on the Brahmasthan of India > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 4:08 PM > Before I ever donate to anything TM > related I want to know this: - How much to the Shrivastava's > of India, who grew from very middle class to rich in the > last 30 years since MMY's organization took in money - how > much do they contribute to TM sponsored projects? Why > doesn't someone from a genuine accounting firm look at the > books (if they exist) and tell us. That would be inspiring > news, wouldn't it? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "Joe" wrote: > > > > So very, very close to Heaven On Earthdig deep! > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > Peter wrote: > > > > > > Completion isjust around > the corner if we can only raise 20 million more ! > > > > > > --- On Wed, 4/20/11, merlin > wrote: > > > > > > From: merlin > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Raja Harris speaks on > the Brahmasthan of India > > > To: > > > Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 11:28 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tonight at 20.30 Holland time > > > in the Global Maharishi Family Chat, > > > our dear Raja Harris will speak > > > on the Brahmasthan of India, > > > with lots of pictures ... > > > > > > See also this new webpage >>> > > > http://maharishiindiacourses.com/ > > > > > > > > > J a i G u r u D e v > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] 'Just in C.C.'??
You want to get out of that really fast. --- On Wed, 4/20/11, Robert wrote: > From: Robert > Subject: [FairfieldLife] 'Just in C.C.'?? > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 8:24 PM > Anyone know anyone, who is just in > CC.?? > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
RE: [FairfieldLife] Adyashanti in Fairfield
And then this poster goes on to put down Adyashanti! We are nothing if not hypocrites! --- On Wed, 4/20/11, Rick Archer wrote: From: Rick Archer Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Adyashanti in Fairfield To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 12:53 PM Comment from a non-FFL member friend on this thread: I think putting down gangji was in appropriate and unnecessary. she may not be his cup of tea but seems to have a following of people who get a lot out of her. also,,, adyahanti is a good speaker but what value is it long term... my exp is that he describes the exp of realization and also what needs to be done. in terms of coming out of denial. embracing the dark side and investigating belief systems.he basically said what B katie says. " the only suffering is un investigated beliefs", but he gives no way really that is systematic for people to go in and deal with the shadow side or all the thoughts..I needI want I shouldhe shouldn't etche helped someone with "atma vichara" who am I, and encouraged someone to ask themselves what is my deepest fears etc. this I felt was going in the right direction and helpful.its still nice to hear this kind of satsang.. good to have understanding as wellthis wont make sense to you unless you are really caught in the suffering like someone of the questioners last night.. I really could relate and thansk God I have katie, the sedona method and shadow work. just doing "who am I " or lsitening to advatia talks are good entertainment but for going deep into mental patterns to release them. I think a lot more needs to be done. he seemed to say the say thing but doesnt give much direction.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adyashanti in Fairfield
I am outraged that someone on FFL created consternation in someone else! This is unheard of! "FFL where the lion lies down with the lamb.and then eats it." --- On Wed, 4/20/11, feste37 wrote: > From: feste37 > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adyashanti in Fairfield > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 1:06 PM > > > This is a forum on which people express their opinions. I > was expressing mine. Nothing "unnecessary" or > "inappropriate" about it. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > Comment from a non-FFL member friend on this thread: > > > > > > > > I think putting down gangji was in appropriate and > unnecessary. she may not > > be his cup of tea but seems to have a following of > people who get a lot out > > of her. > > > > also,,, adyahanti is a good speaker but what value is > it long term... my exp > > is that he describes the exp of realization and also > what needs to be done. > > in terms of coming out of denial. embracing the dark > side and investigating > > belief systems. > > > > he basically said what B katie says. " the only > suffering is un investigated > > beliefs", but he gives no way really that is > systematic for people to go in > > and deal with the shadow side or all the > thoughts.. > > > > I need > > > > I want > > > > I should > > > > he shouldn't etc > > > > he helped someone with "atma vichara" who am I, and > encouraged someone to > > ask themselves what is my deepest fears etc. this I > felt was going in the > > right direction and helpful. > > > > its still nice to hear this kind of satsang.. good to > have understanding as > > well > > > > this wont make sense to you unless you are really > caught in the suffering > > like someone of the questioners last night.. I really > could relate and > > thansk God I have katie, the sedona method and shadow > work. just doing "who > > am I " or lsitening to advatia talks are good > entertainment but for going > > deep into mental patterns to release them. I think a > lot more needs to be > > done. he seemed to say the say thing but doesnt give > much direction. > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Raja Harris speaks on the Brahmasthan of India
Completion isjust around the corner if we can only raise 20 million more ! --- On Wed, 4/20/11, merlin wrote: From: merlin Subject: [FairfieldLife] Raja Harris speaks on the Brahmasthan of India To: Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 11:28 AM Tonight at 20.30 Holland time in the Global Maharishi Family Chat, our dear Raja Harris will speak on the Brahmasthan of India, with lots of pictures ... See also this new webpage >>> http://maharishiindiacourses.com/ J a i G u r u D e v
Re: [FairfieldLife] Adyashanti in Fairfield
Perhaps coming out of more of a zen/buddhist tradition makes him a little more direct and intellectual. I've always enjoyed his simple clarity. --- On Wed, 4/20/11, feste37 wrote: > From: feste37 > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Adyashanti in Fairfield > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 10:52 AM > Adyashanti was excellent in the > Sondheim last night. He had a good crowd, about 300, I would > guess. He is very smart, very articulate, well worth > hearing, for those who like that kind of thing (the "waking > up" thing, that is). I much prefer him to the imperious > drama queen, Gangaji. He handled questions superbly, > understanding exactly where people were coming from and > taking them where they wanted to go but didn't know how. > Very down-to-earth manner, not a trace of arrogance, > speaking democratically as one human being to others. I > enjoyed him a lot. He is speaking tonight, also, at > 7:30. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba Dead?
--- On Tue, 4/19/11, curtisdeltablues wrote: > From: curtisdeltablues > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba Dead? > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, April 19, 2011, 10:44 AM > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > nablusoss1008 wrote: > > Is that so ? Where is that "abundant evidence" ? > > Some films have been produced to try to disgrace Sai > Baba, a campaign to try to blackmail Him for money. > > A very common tactic in one of the most corrupt > countries on earth. > > > > But on FFL noone cares about facts as long as Great > Beings are portrayed in a bad ligh. > > Just ask Rick. > > > > I can't speak to the pedo stuff but I can state as a fact > that I have seen videos of him doing stage magic and passing > it off as miracles. If you are trained in stage magic you > actually see him doing the moves. That doesn't make > any case for him being a deviant but it sure makes him a > disreputable, dishonest person. I don't know how anyone can > counter argue that it really IS a miracle once this has been > exposed. > > Since this information is commonly available I am amazed > that people have the ability to keep up the pretense that he > was a special guy. I do understand the mindset a > bit. There is no amount of evidence that will change > some people's mind. I was stuck there about > Maharishi. > > I believe that people can function in different interesting > ways and of course we don't have much information at all > about variations of the human mind. But I have come to > the conclusion that the least likely place to find an > extraordinary mind will be among the self described > spiritual people. Now I am working backwards from > people doing extraordinary things as evidence of them being > special. Not the fanciful miracles but exceptional > abilities that I share the ordinary range of. > > And guys like Sai Baba understood this way of looking at > the evidence of specialness first before listening to them > telling you how special they are. The problem was that his > evidence was fraudulent. Simple as that. But he > was playing on a human tendency to want proof. Or more > likely the human tendency to want to believe that proof had > been given without doing the humbling heavy lifting to > really test the idea. Crack a 10 year old kid's magic > book. Watch the films. Realize that your search > for a special person must go on and you have more work to do > to find someone unique. You don't even have to be a trained magician to see the really sloppy sleight-of-hand. Look at the Youtube videos. Really ridiculous stuff. Also the pedo stuff is pretty well known and even acknowledged by his organization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "Joe" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Could he be both a pedophile fraud AND > a "planetary Avatar" Nabby? > > > > > > > > Ofcourse not. > > > > > > A miracle. Joe and Nabby are finally agreed. > > > > > > Since there is abundant evidence that Sai Baba > was > > > a pedophile fraud, > > snip > > > > > > Is that so ? Where is that "abundant evidence" ? > > Some films have been produced to try to disgrace Sai > Baba, a campaign to try to blackmail Him for money. > > A very common tactic in one of the most corrupt > countries on earth. > > > > But on FFL noone cares about facts as long as Great > Beings are portrayed in a bad ligh. > > Just ask Rick. > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adhyashanti in Fairfield
He once said something that disagreed with a concept I had so he must fake. --- On Fri, 4/15/11, Buck wrote: > From: Buck > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Adhyashanti in Fairfield > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, April 15, 2011, 9:01 AM > "The author of Falling into Grace, > Emptiness Dancing, The Impact of > Awakening, and My Secret Is Silence, Adyashanti offers > spontaneous and > direct nondual teachings that have been compared to those > of the early Zen > masters and Advaita Vedanta sages. However, Adya says, "If > you filter my > words through any tradition or '-ism,' you will miss > altogether what I am > saying. The truth lies beyond all forms of conceptual > fundamentalism. What > you are is the beyond-awake and present, here and now > already. I am simply > helping you to realize that." > > > > > > > Fairfield Iowa Satsang > > April 19, 2011 > > Tuesday , 7:30 PM - 9:30 PM > > Fairfield, IA > > At-the-door registration only > > $15 at the door on April 19 > > > > Fairfield Arts and Convention Center > > 200 N. Main Street > > Fairfield, IA 52556 > > > > > > There is no preregistration for this event. > > Doors open at 7:00 pm. > > For more information contact > > Rick: rick@... > > > > > > http://www.adyashanti.org > > > > > > > > http://www.adyashanti.org/index.php?file=travelsdetails&location=Fairfield,%20Iowa&dates=April%2019%20-%2020&year=2011 > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chaga beats amrita-kalasha?
It's a voodoo nutrition throwdown!! --- On Fri, 4/15/11, cardemaister wrote: > From: cardemaister > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Chaga beats amrita-kalasha? > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, April 15, 2011, 2:55 AM > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inonotus_obliquus > > Medicinal use > > Since the 16th century, there are records of chaga mushroom > being used in folk medicine and the botanical medicine of > the Eastern European countries as a remedy for cancer, > gastritis, ulcers, and tuberculosis of the bones. A review > from 2010, stated, "As early as in the sixteenth century, > Chaga was used as an effective folk medicine in Russia and > Northern Europe to treat several human malicious tumors and > other diseases in the absence of any unacceptable toxic side > effects. Chemical investigations show that I. obliquus > produces a diverse range of secondary metabolites including > phenolic compounds, melanins, and lanostane-type > triterpenoids. Among these are the active components for > antioxidant, antitumoral, and antiviral activities and for > improving human immunity against infection of pathogenic > microbes. Geographically, however, this fungus is restricted > to very cold habitats and grows very slowly, suggesting that > Chaga is not a reliable source of these bioactive compounds. > Attempts for culturing this fungus axenically all resulted > in a reduced production of bioactive metabolites."[1] In > 1958, scientific studies in Finland and Russia found Chaga > provided an epochal effect in breast cancer, liver cancer, > uterine cancer, and gastric cancer, as well as in > hypertension and diabetes.[2] > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ADHD: New study published on TM
--- On Thu, 4/14/11, sparaig wrote: > From: sparaig > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: ADHD: New study published on TM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 9:09 AM > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > Vaj wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 14, 2011, at 1:34 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > Peter > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Looks like a decent, interesting study that > actually uses a > > >> control group! > > >> > > > > > > Plenty of studies on TM use control groups. > > > > > > Sheesh. > > > > > > Exactly. The use of inappropriate controls is an old > TM researcher > > fudge factor. > > > > Since delayed-start control groups (what this study uses so > that it was termed as "a decent study that actually uses a > control group") are one of the most common forms of control > groups found in TM studies, just which studies that used > delay start controls are appropriate and which aren't, and > how do you make that decision? > > Lawson Good questions. I don't know. Most of the physiological studies done on TM are pretty decent (except for the really early ones). It's the psychological and social studies that are deeply flawed because of lack of control groups. They are considered pilot studies that reveal a correlation between TM and some measured variables but the TMO always touts them around as if they demonstrates causality. They don't. > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] ADHD: New study published on TM
Looks like a decent, interesting study that actually uses a control group! --- On Wed, 4/13/11, merlin wrote: From: merlin Subject: [FairfieldLife] ADHD: New study published on TM To: Date: Wednesday, April 13, 2011, 2:15 PM Improved brain function in students with ADHD: New study published on TM Maharishi University of Management, Iowa, USA - The Review 12 April 2011 The Excellence in Action page of Global Good News is featuring this article with colourful photos. Please click on the following link to read more about 'New study shows improved brain function in ADHD students'. The article features a pilot study on students with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), published this month in Mind and Brain, The Journal of Psychiatry. The study found improved brain functioning and decreased symptoms as a result of practising the Transcendental Meditation Technique. This research, conducted by researcher Dr Fred Travis, Director of the Center for Brain, Consciousness, and Cognition at MUM, along with Dr Sarina Grosswald and Dr William Stixrud, compared brain waves and ADHD symptoms in children age 11-14 years diagnosed with ADHD. The students were randomly assigned to learn Transcendental Meditation right away, or after three months. The researchers looked at theta/beta power ratios, since higher ratios correlate with greater severity of ADHD symptoms. They found that the theta/beta power ratios decreased after three months of practice, while ratios in the control group increased slightly. After three months, the delayed-start group also learned Transcendental Meditation, and their ratios then showed a decrease after three months of practice. Both groups of students saw a significant 48% decrease. In a sense, Dr Travis says, the repeated experience of the Transcendental Meditation Technique trains the brain to function in a style opposite that of ADHD. © Copyright 2011 Maharishi University of Management
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Do Narcissists Know They Are Narcissists?
--- On Tue, 4/5/11, Sal Sunshine wrote: > From: Sal Sunshine > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Do Narcissists Know They Are Narcissists? > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 4:17 PM > > On Apr 5, 2011, at 12:07 PM, > turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- A few minutes ago, "authfriend" > wrote: > >> > >> OK, but I don't see why any of this requires > applying a > >> formal diagnostic label. And I think slapping a > label on > >> one's analysis has a tendency to make one think > the > >> analysis is more definitive than it may actually > be. > >> > >> Putting people in boxes is necessary for the kind > of > >> health-care/insurance setup we have, but it may > >> rigidify and limit understanding of the > individual. I > >> don't think any human being really *fits* in a > box. > > > > But a few hours earlier she wrote: > > > > "Does anybody here think this all is not the *perfect* > > > description of Barry?" > > > > And a little while after that she wrote: > > > > "But it's interesting: Curtis thinks you're a > narcissist, > > but Barry and I are not; I think Barry's a narcissist, > but > > you're not; you think Barry's not a narcissist (don't > know > > whether you think I am). Nobody else has weighed in > and > > said they don't think Barry's a narcissist, so I guess > > > everyone else agrees with me..." > > I think this was meant sardonically... > > > It seems that when Curtis describes Maharishi as a > > narcissist that's bad, and "putting people in boxes." > > But when Judy does it, it's OK. :-) > > > > Also, should we interpret her saying "I don't think > > any human being really *fits* in a box" and yet > claim- > > ing that someone she dislikes is a *perfect* > narcissist > > > > No kidding. If we were going to start banning > labels, > there'd be maybe 2 posts a year in here. > > Not to mention that it's idiotic to suggest that > what you think the standard is should apply to > everyone. Talk about narcissism! Now if > that isn't a perfect example I don't know what is. > Except for Dr. Pete, nobody in here > is a mental-health professional and thus needs > to watch what they say. (And even he probably > doesn't when he's not wearing his psychologist > hat.) This is all just conversation > for the hell of it. Judy often uses this technique > to try and control what others say. Let's hope > it doesn't work any better now than it has > in the past. > > Sal > > Now watch for Judy to suggest that the > "standard" I mentioned above is about the > lowest one she could imagine, and if people > can't even follow that...yada, yada, yada. :) > Or some other similar shaming technique. Everybody has a degree of narcissism which is healthy. People can have strong narcissistic traits but this is not considered pathological. A narcissistic personality disorder is pathological but NOBODY who posts here is even remotely close to exhibiting behaviors that would be indicative of a narcissistic personality disorder. Sure, some are more fascinated by themselves than others but it's all within normal limits. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Do Narcissists Know They Are Narcissists?
--- On Tue, 4/5/11, wayback71 wrote: > From: wayback71 > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Do Narcissists Know They Are Narcissists? > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 4:18 PM > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > Peter wrote: > > > > Good points, Curtis. Despite what people have said > here, MMY did not have a narcissistic personality disorder. > I agree that he did become progressively narcissistic as the > decades rolled by. Really too bad. He was also so distant > and isolated from all except a few. I used to think this > distance was the result of his enlightenment. Now I realize > it was just his personality. I also wonder if he had some > sort of cognitive impairment the last 15-20 years or so. > Things became progressively stranger and stranger as time > went by. The rajas were really the final straw that > destroyed any sort of credibility the TMO/MMY ever had. > > Yes, they were the final straw. interesting idea > about the cognitive impairment. He did have that heart > attack (early 80's?) and was in the hospital and under > close supervision outside for about 6 months, I think. > And that can cause some cognitive impairment. He also > had diabetes and it might not have been > well-controlled. And maybe some dementia. I thought about dementia, but that usually shows up initially as short-term memory problems. With MMY it seems like his thinking became progressively more bizarre and out-of-touch with reality. If his intention was to spread TM he pretty much did everything to destroy its spread. Strange stuff. > > > > --- On Tue, 4/5/11, curtisdeltablues > wrote: > > > > > From: curtisdeltablues > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Do Narcissists Know > They Are Narcissists? > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 11:36 AM > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > All this "you're an narcissist" "No you're a > narcissist" > > > talk flying around does dilute the value of the > term a bit. > > > > > > When I came across this description applied to > gurus > > > (primarily to Rajaneesh, secondarily to > Maharishi) in a > > > Secular Humanist magazine in the late 80's or > early 90's it > > > helped me understand how some people could > function so > > > differently. It also helps explain how people > who come > > > from such a different internal place can have a > profound > > > effect on the rest of us. That kind of > internal > > > certainty is foreign to people with a more humble > sense of > > > self regard. If you don't buy into Maharishi's > view of > > > himself as the person of the greatest importance > in human > > > history for bringing out the knowledge of TM and > sidhis, > > > then the description of narcissism helps explain > the guy for > > > me. And as we begin to understand brain > chemistry > > > better we can perhaps develop a bit of compassion > for > > > someone so compelled to have an inordinately high > opinion of > > > himself. > > > > > > On the other hand, there might be a bit of > random > > > haplessness to the whole Maharishi deal. I mean > how > > > many other yogis who fell into such a fantastic > reception > > > from the world could avoid thinking "damn, I AM > da > > > man!" So from this perspective perhaps > Maharishi was > > > not a narcissist in the clinical sense but more > of an > > > ordinary guy who rose the occasion of his > celebrity (his > > > success surprising even him)whose personality got > distorted > > > by his rockstar fame and fortune like many > modern > > > celebrities. Without a close family to keep him > real, > > > and through the years ditching those who served > that > > > function (buh by Jerry) he grew into a Seelisberg > pampered > > > little prince. Not anything clinical really, but > somewhere > > > between the unhinged and unchecked ego of a Jerry > Lee Lewis > > > and the wildly imaginative and ambitions Richard > Branson. > > > > > > Fascinating human story either way. I remember > in > > > India when he told us "It was the greatest good > fortune for > > > all mankind...that I decided to come out." He > would > > > certainly get a gold star in the self-e
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Do Narcissists Know They Are Narcissists?
Good points, Curtis. Despite what people have said here, MMY did not have a narcissistic personality disorder. I agree that he did become progressively narcissistic as the decades rolled by. Really too bad. He was also so distant and isolated from all except a few. I used to think this distance was the result of his enlightenment. Now I realize it was just his personality. I also wonder if he had some sort of cognitive impairment the last 15-20 years or so. Things became progressively stranger and stranger as time went by. The rajas were really the final straw that destroyed any sort of credibility the TMO/MMY ever had. --- On Tue, 4/5/11, curtisdeltablues wrote: > From: curtisdeltablues > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Do Narcissists Know They Are Narcissists? > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, April 5, 2011, 11:36 AM > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "authfriend" wrote: > > All this "you're an narcissist" "No you're a narcissist" > talk flying around does dilute the value of the term a bit. > > When I came across this description applied to gurus > (primarily to Rajaneesh, secondarily to Maharishi) in a > Secular Humanist magazine in the late 80's or early 90's it > helped me understand how some people could function so > differently. It also helps explain how people who come > from such a different internal place can have a profound > effect on the rest of us. That kind of internal > certainty is foreign to people with a more humble sense of > self regard. If you don't buy into Maharishi's view of > himself as the person of the greatest importance in human > history for bringing out the knowledge of TM and sidhis, > then the description of narcissism helps explain the guy for > me. And as we begin to understand brain chemistry > better we can perhaps develop a bit of compassion for > someone so compelled to have an inordinately high opinion of > himself. > > On the other hand, there might be a bit of random > haplessness to the whole Maharishi deal. I mean how > many other yogis who fell into such a fantastic reception > from the world could avoid thinking "damn, I AM da > man!" So from this perspective perhaps Maharishi was > not a narcissist in the clinical sense but more of an > ordinary guy who rose the occasion of his celebrity (his > success surprising even him)whose personality got distorted > by his rockstar fame and fortune like many modern > celebrities. Without a close family to keep him real, > and through the years ditching those who served that > function (buh by Jerry) he grew into a Seelisberg pampered > little prince. Not anything clinical really, but somewhere > between the unhinged and unchecked ego of a Jerry Lee Lewis > and the wildly imaginative and ambitions Richard Branson. > > Fascinating human story either way. I remember in > India when he told us "It was the greatest good fortune for > all mankind...that I decided to come out." He would > certainly get a gold star in the self-esteem building > workshop for that one. But for my taste he could have dialed > it back a notch or 20. > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > [I wrote:] > > > > > Nobody else has weighed in and said > they don't think > > > > > Barry's a narcissist, so I guess > everyone else agrees > > > > > with me... > > > > > > [Curtis wrote:] > > > > No, if no one weighs in it means that they > agree with me > > > > and that makes ME the narcissist. > > > > > > I suspect that the narcissist in this scenario > > > is the person who believes that everyone agrees > > > with them, whether they say so or not. :-) > > > > Yet another Barrygaffe. He's missed the obvious fact > > that Curtis and I were both saying "Everyone agrees > > with me." So Barry has just called Curtis a > narcissist. > > > > (Or perhaps he did see that, and that's why he > carefully > > deleted the attributions.) > > > > Funnier still, he doesn't realize I was parodying > what > > *he* does--claiming everyone agrees with him whether > > they say so or not. Maybe Curtis was too. Hmmm... > > > > And all Barry can come up with in the way of > > demonization is the olde Black Knight sketch that's > > been invoked here many times, as if he thought it was > > a brand-new killer weapon. > > > > Particularly pathetic given how badly he lost on the > > "New Yawker" issue. > > > > But he's still unchallenged for the Master of > > Inadvertent Irony title. > > > > > > > Speaking of New Yawker Syndrome (which is > another > > > word for obnoxious narcissism), it occurred to > me > > > that we have a film example of its most distinct > > > pathology. That is, not *only* the need to turn > > > every human encounter into a fight, but also the > > > > need to declare oneself the "winner" of each of > > > those fights. The NYN (New Yawker Narcissist) > > > never loses: > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMkth8FWno > > > > > > At least t
Re: [FairfieldLife] Adhyashanti in Fairfield
Spies will be lurking! --- On Mon, 4/4/11, Buck wrote: > From: Buck > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Adhyashanti in Fairfield > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 6:43 AM > Fairfield Iowa Satsang > April 19, 2011 > Tuesday , 7:30 PM - 9:30 PM > Fairfield, IA > At-the-door registration only > $15 at the door on April 19 > > Fairfield Arts and Convention Center > 200 N. Main Street > Fairfield, IA 52556 > > > There is no preregistration for this event. > Doors open at 7:00 pm. > For more information contact > Rick: r...@batgap.com > > > http://www.adyashanti.org > > > > http://www.adyashanti.org/index.php?file=travelsdetails&location=Fairfield,%20Iowa&dates=April%2019%20-%2020&year=2011 > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The sweet speech of the enlightened
Intention is more powerful than any prayer. --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Buck wrote: > From: Buck > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The sweet speech of the enlightened > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Sunday, April 3, 2011, 5:57 AM > Yep, if you are going to be visiting > and > having a meal alongside tru-believers you > might want to learn both the English and > sanskrit of this hymn. It gets said a lot > out loud as a meal or desert benediction. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in fealty: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The inner TM movement's > cultural test, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Let us be together > > > > > > > Let us eat together > > > > > > > Let us be vital together > > > > > > > Let us be Radiating Truth > > > > > > > Let us Be radiating the light > of life > > > > > > > Never shall we denounce > anyone > > > > > > > > Never entertain negativity." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Saha Nav Avatu > > > > > > > > > Saha Nav Bhunaktu > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sucker Punch
Any boobies? --- On Fri, 4/1/11, turquoiseb wrote: > From: turquoiseb > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sucker Punch > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 12:29 PM > When Zack Snyder was pitching this > movie to Hollywood > producers, he described it as "Alice in Wonderland with > machine guns." > > I'd describe it more as a kind of a Bardo experience, > including the use of the Beatles' "Inner Light" on the > soundtrack at one point. But it's less of a "Turn off > your mind, relax and float downstream" Bardo experience > than it is a "Turn off your mind, snort, shoot, smoke > and ingest a drug cocktail that would put Hunter Thompson > under the table, and float downstream" Bardo experience. > > "Sucker Punch" is a mishmash of every video game, CGI > action movie, and Bad Girls In Prison movie ever created. > It's all flash and style and no content. ZERO content. > > The plot, if there were one, would sorta kinda revolve > around Baby Doll, committed to a mental institution by > her evil stepdad because he got written out of her dead > Mom's will. But that's just the first level of reality. > As soon as Baby Doll is checked in, she starts checkin' > the place out, and her fellow inmates like Sweet Pea, > Rocket, Blondie, and Amber. They're all babes, because > you see it's not really an insane asylum; it's a kind > of sleezy whorehouse/strip club run by the same guy who > in the mental asylum reality is the head orderly. In > the whorehouse reality the babes are supposed to dance > for the customers and then "entertain" them. Only thing > is, when Baby Doll dances, she enters a third alternate > reality (the video game fantasy one), and gets to fight > battles, kick ass and take names. You following all of > this so far? > > Neither was I. :-) But it doesn't matter because this > movie was never *intended* to make any sense. In my > opinion it was designed as a super-flashy entertainment > for teenagers who have burned their brains out with the > drug cocktail I mentioned earlier. Such an audience is > not only not familiar with the word "plot," they're > incapable of following one. All they can do is stare > at the screen, toke up or snort up or shoot up one > more time, and say "Wow!" It's number two at the box > office in America this week, and took in $19.1 million > in its first weekend. Welcome to Maharishi's Sat Yuga. :-) > > All of this said, perversely, I kinda enjoyed parts of > it. I doubt that many others here will, but I had to > write it up anyway because I mentioned it earlier. > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The sweet speech of the enlightened
The classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXSyzeVWueI&feature=related
--- On Thu, 3/31/11, Ravi Yogi wrote:
From: Ravi Yogi
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The sweet speech of the enlightened
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 5:43 PM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray1" wrote:
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> > Maharishi was a Blazing Ball of Brahman. Jim's and Ravi's balls are
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Wow, the fascination of mature adults with decades of spiritual life, with
containers or balls in this case..LOL, it's a never ending quest. That's why I
keep repeating ad nauseam the pimp("ego") is ever fascinated with the
whore("intellect") or balls. The pimps almost always have the Small Ball
Syndrome and the conditions get aggravated by someone they think are
challenging them. (Dr. Ravi Yogi, Psy.D ,UC Berekeley's research paper
available and will be released soon, the paper concludes how the pimp can't
accept the notion of dependence on the wore and the possibility of a life
outside the 'hood).
You have definitely piqued my interest. I don't want to spoil this game,
obviously you guys have devoted your whole lives and invested a lot of
energy in comparison of balls.. Not sure what Jim would have said, but he
posted out anyway so it doesn't matter. So what do you suggest Peterji and
Steveji - do I need to send in a picture of my balls, shaven or unshaven, you
must have some specimen of Maharishi's balls I assume. And then what are the
rules, you must be the judges and then you declare a winner right? Ok please
send me all the details before Friday when I can post freely again, OMG I'm so
excited .
The rest of the message for is for Barry.
Barry - I was saving my 50th message for you. You know how much I appreciate
your work in transforming your dependence on dead gurus and scriptures into
attachment for jivanmuktas. I'm so glad you have stopped posting your idiotic
messages on comparing TMO/MMY with Facebook, Mormons, Catholics,
Scientologists, Economic Psychology or whatever new thoery that comes up in the
leading newspapers.
I'm actually glad Jim posted out. I was strongly against your focus on Three
goons. I'm hoping Judy posts out but even if she didn't she hasn't declared
herself to be awakened so no worries. This is your chance to focus completely
on me. You know how much I appreciate you consistently making a fool of
yourself here, it has greatly helped me compile a wide variety of research
articles to help you - Small Penis Complex, PTMSD. I agree, its not easy but
you can do it and I'm here to support your work. Checkout my Yahoo profile,
there are a sample of photos that will help you concentrate more.
Keep up the good work - focus on the original goon, the original gangsta of the
divine mother.
Love - Ravi Yogi.
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> why some here don't quite buy their claims of egolessness and
> enlightenment, I just thought I'd 1) provide a short quote from
> Maharishi on the subject of the speech of the enlightened, and 2) go
> back to look at only the first few words (the ones that appear in
> Yahoo's Message View) of a few of the 64 posts they made during the
> first 30 hours of this FFL posting week, during which they were
> indulging in a bit of a "feeding frenzy" by dissing other FFL posters,
> all of whom are coincidentally often described by Judy Stein as "TM
> critics" or "anti-TMers," and all of whom (again coincidentally) are
> among the most highly-placed on her own personal Enemies List and
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> posts she made during the this "feeding frenzy&q
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Subtle energy awareness and Deep Transcendence
I hope she's doing okay now. If you're having intense kundalini the last thing you want to do are asanas! She needed to go out and have an emergency hamburger or two! --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Rick Archer wrote: From: Rick Archer Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Subtle energy awareness and Deep Transcendence To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 3:34 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter L Sutphen Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 1:34 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Subtle energy awareness and Deep Transcendence Unguided practice. My biggest "complaint" about TM and the TM siddhis. As long as progress is slow and gentle, not a problem for the most part. But when experiences begin to move into self transcendence and all the cognitive and emotional uproar this will create, you need a guru. I was just chatting with someone who had experienced this. She was writhing on the floor at 3am with her Kundalini on fire. Sidhi administrators told her to try a vata pacifying diet and more asanas. Peter On Mar 31, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Vaj wrote: On Mar 31, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Buck wrote: One of the Bobby Roth TM questioners last week that I thought was most interesting was the young woman MUM student from New Mexico asking about more guidance with chakra energy work and hoping for services at MUM with this for people who would need help with that, besides meditating. It obviously was out of Bobby's realm as he mostly let it slide by without touching it. On the Ayurveda training course with Chopra in FF it was told that Mahesh had tried to buy out the families that preserved the traditions of Kalarippayattu, which contained all the secrets of the marmas and the nadis in an oral tradition, the written versions of which made no sense unless you'd received actual practical instruction. The families who held the teaching could not be bought, at any price. And thus the teachings were never given to the movement. Their main person, John Douiliard, found a master who taught the science and moved on. To this day that guru comes back to FF to help rescue the many damaged by the siddhis, pranic disease and unguided practice. Who is that guru?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Subtle energy awareness and Deep Transcendence
Unguided practice. My biggest "complaint" about TM and the TM siddhis. As long as progress is slow and gentle, not a problem for the most part. But when experiences begin to move into self transcendence and all the cognitive and emotional uproar this will create, you need a guru. Peter On Mar 31, 2011, at 2:25 PM, Vaj wrote: > > > > On Mar 31, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Buck wrote: > >> One of the Bobby Roth TM questioners last week that I thought was most >> interesting was the young woman MUM student from New Mexico asking about >> more guidance with chakra energy work and hoping for services at MUM with >> this for people who would need help with that, besides meditating. It >> obviously was out of Bobby's realm as he mostly let it slide by without >> touching it. > > > On the Ayurveda training course with Chopra in FF it was told that Mahesh had > tried to buy out the families that preserved the traditions of > Kalarippayattu, which contained all the secrets of the marmas and the nadis > in an oral tradition, the written versions of which made no sense unless > you'd received actual practical instruction. The families who held the > teaching could not be bought, at any price. And thus the teachings were never > given to the movement. Their main person, John Douiliard, found a master who > taught the science and moved on. To this day that guru comes back to FF to > help rescue the many damaged by the siddhis, pranic disease and unguided > practice. > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] The Aldeen Ordinance
Thank god we got all those ducks in a row! For a second I thought I'd have to wake Major Tom. --- On Thu, 3/31/11, rwr wrote: From: rwr Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Aldeen Ordinance To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 5:14 AM The Aldeen Ordinance Who watches the Watchers? Or who Scrutinises the Authorities? The Aldeen Ordinance Steering Committee are the Watchers and the Authority. But who watches them? And how? And how does one really maintain a secret organisation? There are ways. The Aldeen Ordinance contains within it the Darsinian Inheritance and also the Culbone Files. Dick Richardson
Re: [FairfieldLife] The sweet speech of the enlightened
Maharishi was a Blazing Ball of Brahman. Jim's and Ravi's balls are smaller! --- On Thu, 3/31/11, turquoiseb wrote: From: turquoiseb Subject: [FairfieldLife] The sweet speech of the enlightened To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 7:27 AM The following post is Turq taking advantage of a power outage at work that disallows any work to have some fun. Be warned. :-) Since both Jim and Ravi seem to be having some trouble understanding why some here don't quite buy their claims of egolessness and enlightenment, I just thought I'd 1) provide a short quote from Maharishi on the subject of the speech of the enlightened, and 2) go back to look at only the first few words (the ones that appear in Yahoo's Message View) of a few of the 64 posts they made during the first 30 hours of this FFL posting week, during which they were indulging in a bit of a "feeding frenzy" by dissing other FFL posters, all of whom are coincidentally often described by Judy Stein as "TM critics" or "anti-TMers," and all of whom (again coincidentally) are among the most highly-placed on her own personal Enemies List and subjects of her own "sweet speech." Naturally, I will not include any of Judy's own language from the 24 posts she made during the this "feeding frenzy" period, even though some of it is of the same ilk, because after all, she has never made any claims of being enlightened. Nor have any of the TM critics being talked about so sweetly below. Jim and Ravi, on the other hand, both claim to be enlightened. You decide. >From Maharishi's The Science of Being and Art of Living: "For speech to be harmonious, appropriate and suitable, thinking has to be clear, sharp, and at the least, harmless -- and at the best, life-supporting to the whole of the environment. ... This is the technique of the art of speaking: that, although we are truthful in our thinking and speaking, the words that come out must be pleasing, soft, and of good quality. ... The habit of speaking pleasingly lies in cultivating that nature, that politeness, that softness and kindness of heart that will not at any time produce harshness of speech. ... Blessed are they who speak sweet words." Quotes by Sri Sri Jim Flanegin (whynotnow7@...): Re Turq: "Turq, you must be wetting your pants with excitement - Curtis is back and Judy is about to be!!! Do they have Depends (adult diapers) in Amsterdam?" Re Turq: "Turq just cannot deal with the fact that adults allow themselves to post at any time in a 24 hour day." (posted at 2:21 AM his time) Re Turq: "Ravi, Joe has a similar control freak nature as Turq in this case - no drinking on-line and get to bed on time dammit! These things are important." (posted at 2:42 AM his time) Re Turq: "Paleeze respond to this guy Judy! He is practically begging you - he needs the sharp crack of your crop on his exposed buttocks - lives for it..." (posted at 2:48 AM his time) Re enlightenment: "Also, how can a *theory* ever be true? Either the reality is lived, or it isn't." (posted at 2:52 AM his time, included for its Irony Factor) Re Vaj: "F*ck statistics and research dude - You proclaim yourself the Big Buddhist here, so didn't the Buddha say something like believe nothing that you hear and only..." (posted at 4:39 AM his time) Re Vaj: "Careful Vajrah-doodah, you just tipped your hand - frightened of liberation, eh? LOL - Seems as translucent as toilet tissue to me, but others may have bought..." (posted at 7:27 AM his time) Re Vaj: "Ha-ha, yeah the grotesque nature of spiritual fakers cracks me up - such a bizarre phenomenon when the isolated ego co-opts the process of sadhana." (posted at 7:28 AM his time, again included for its Irony Factor) Quotes by Sri Sri Ravi Yogi (raviyogi@...): Re Turq, et al: "Barry's got this right - retards like him, Mike and Curtis lead such pathetic lives that their lives revolve around attacking TM. Its quite obvious..." Re Turq, et al: "He can't, he knows there is something but he didn't get it when the Guru was alive. Now he feels like a jilted lover - pathetic retards - Barry, Curtis and now..." Re Turq: "...pussies are just not tolerated here, learn from Barry. Take your shit elsewhere..." Re Mike: "...shutdown your whorehouse(blogs attacking Gurus) and go home to your beloved(Self)" Re Mike: "Let go of the mental masturbation, just feel and you will know why I called him a pussy..." Re Joe: "No Joeyji I'm drunk on the bottle of divine Vodka that my divine mother gave me. I'm hanging out at the FFL Pub ready to engage in a brawl." Re Mike: "...the mental masturbation, just feel and you will know why I called him a pussy." (posted at 3:32 AM his time) Re Vaj: "LOL.. His whore Vakrabuddhi's really not giving him anything tonight. He could have easily chosen to make eternal love to his beloved but he would rather whore..." (posted at 6:38 AM his time) Re Joe: "Joeyji
Re: [FairfieldLife] no charges in Fairfield "hate crime" case
Now that's one hell of a good report! --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Sal Sunshine wrote: > From: Sal Sunshine > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] no charges in Fairfield "hate crime" case > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 10:00 PM > Here is the final report from the > county attorney: > > March 28, 2011 > Final Report Regarding the Assault reported During the > Early Morning Hours of March 6, 2011 > During the weekend of March 5 and 6, 2011 Fairfield > resident, Usama Alshaibi, sustained some injury > following a night out with a friend. Shortly thereafter he > posted a blog online that discussed his ordeal and > described it as a hate crime. This report will detail the > investigation and its findings. It will also discuss the > conclusions reached by this office based on that > information. > The Fairfield Police Department, with the help of the Iowa > Department of Criminal Investigations, > conducted a thorough investigation that began at 12:19 a.m. > on March 6, 2011. The investigation involved the > interviews and discussions with dozens of people. This > office has reviewed over 20 written statements and > watched a dozen recorded interviews. We have also reviewed > photographs and medical records and have had > countless discussions with the primary investigators. Based > on all of this we can piece together the following > timeline of events: > On Saturday, March 5, 2011, Usama Alshaibi and his friend > Manuel Tsingaris went out to a restaurant > and bar called Vivo’s. They arrived between 8:30 and 9:00 > p.m. and sat in the bar area. They consumed some > alcoholic beverages and enjoyed themselves. Mr. Alshaibi > was quite forthcoming about how much he had to > drink and that it definitely had an effect on him. Sometime > between 11:00 and 11:30 p.m. a different group of > people, including Canaan Rice and Jason Byers, entered the > bar and sat down. Shortly thereafter Mr. Byers > observed another friend enter the bar and he called out to > him. Mr. Alshaibi looked at Mr. Byers and shouted > obscenities at him. Although nothing else occurred at the > bar the patrons said that Mr. Alshaibi appeared > impaired and was acting in a way that could be > problematic. > At approximately midnight Mr. Alshaibi and Mr. Tsingaris > left Vivo’s and began walking home. They > walked west on West Broadway on a sidewalk across an > abandoned railroad spur to either 8th or 9th Street. > They turned north and at either Broadway or Briggs they > separated. Mr. Alshaibi lives at 1104 West Briggs so > he was only a few blocks from home. Mr. Tsingaris continued > walking north towards his home and assumed > his friend was walking the remaining few blocks home. > Mr. Alshaibi claims to have heard music as he was walking > towards his house. As he approached this > music he claims to have met a young woman who told him that > the party was upstairs. Although the officers > were unable to canvas this area immediately they did check > the neighborhood within the hour after the assault > report was received. The police were unable to locate any > noticeable music in that area. Throughout the > investigation the police were unable to verify or identify > the young woman. As a result we cannot say with any > certainty whether there was any music or whether there was > any young woman. > OFFICES OF > JEFFERSON COUNTY ATTORNEY > 117 WEST BROADWAY > FAIRFIELD, IOWA 52556‐3217 > PHONE (641) 472‐9201 > FAX (641) 472‐9202 > email address: jeffcoa...@lisco.com > JEFFERSON COUNTY ATTORNEY > TIMOTHY W. DILLE > Direct email address: t...@lisco.com > ASSISTANT JEFFERSON COUNTY ATTORNEY > PATRICK J. McAVAN > Direct email address: p...@lisco.com > What is clear is that Mr. Alshaibi actually got himself > turned around and wound up walking in the > opposite direction of his home. Sometime around 12:15 a.m. > he entered a home located at 50 South 5th Street. > This home is a block and half east of Vivo’s and would > have required Mr. Alshaibi to backtrack past Vivo’s to > get there within the timeline. This house is the residence > of Joshua Bishop and his teenage son Gabe. > Joshua Bishop was asleep on the couch in the living room > while Gabe was upstairs in his room with four > other friends. The others were Samantha Fischer, Brian > Jennings, Heath Nevins, and Blaze Strickland. Nevins > is 20 years old and all the others were under 18. They > report that they had just finished watching a movie when > they heard footsteps on the stairs. They assumed that they > had awakened Joshua and they were going to be in > trouble. However, the footsteps stopped just outside of the > closed door. The kids reported seeing a shadow > under the door and they knew someone was standing outside > of the door. Investigators confirmed that the > lighting in the hall would allow a shadow to be seen under > the door. > The door was opened a crack, either by Gabe or by Mr. > Alshaibi. It is clear that there was a brief > exchange betwe
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM Q&A session on "David Wants to Fly" on YouTube
Ha ha! Vaj, why can't I have that chocolate cookie? --- On Sun, 3/27/11, Vaj wrote: From: Vaj Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM Q&A session on "David Wants to Fly" on YouTube To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 9:16 AM On Mar 26, 2011, at 11:59 PM, Peter wrote: Once you experience the darshan of the Absolute, no matter how creaky that vehicle might be that holds the door open, you can't really get the genie back in the bottle. There is no thing to "see", i.e. have darshan of, if it's the absolute. Sounds like a shakti experience to me. Common in many magicians who pose as spiritual adepts. You are aware that the type of experiences described around Mahesh are all shakti type experiences, right? This seems to be a fundamental confusion in your parsing of these experiences that you still cling to, many years after the fact.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM Q&A session on "David Wants to Fly" on YouTube
Once you experience the darshan of the Absolute, no matter how creaky that vehicle might be that holds the door open, you can't really get the genie back in the bottle. If the darshan of the Absolute is only a concept for you, then you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. This is not arrogance. This is not one-ups-manship. It's just the vast difference between a thought and experience. Ironically, authentic transcendental experience frees you from the tyranny of concepts regardless of their origin. That's what baffles me about guys like Bobby who adhere to the party line. How could anyone keep a straight face when trying to stack concepts in a nifty house of cards for the new cannon fodder when Krishna blazes in your heart? I mean, Jesus, Bobby, literally! Didn't 40 years of TM free you to sit smilingly in the paradox of Maharishi as he stole money, screwed young women and used people like a psychopath all the while just blazing with the transcendent grace of God? --- On Sat, 3/26/11, Joe wrote: > From: Joe > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM Q&A session on "David Wants to Fly" on > YouTube > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Saturday, March 26, 2011, 10:33 PM > The "ting" isthere is a reason > why people bring this having-been-close-to-M up. There > really is a shared understanding among those who spent > significant time around the inside and around M. For me, > it's the reason why, when I view Bobby's talk, instead of > just going all negative, my first thought was to admire his > technique in handling difficult questions in a public > setting. > > It's also the reason, my communications with him were not > attacking in nature.I know what it is to feel blissfully > secure in the knowledge that you really "have" it. Curtis > laid that out so clearly this morningthat feeling of > being in an environment so intoxicatingly full of "this is > it" security that you just wallow in it. > > I'm sorry, but unless you've spent significant time in that > zone, there are things about it that are difficult to convey > or understand. Call it conceit if you like. For me its just > something that happened at that time of my life. Something > powerful in many ways and something I've (mostly) never > tired of ruminating about. It's the reason why, when > others mock true believers of other "paths" my mocking must > contain a large degree of self mocking. I can no longer say > "these people must be nuts!", without adding that I know > first hand what it is to be a "nut". > > In my music production life, I spend a lot of time working > with jazz musicians. There's a similar kind of code, a > language if you will, where those who are just dabbling are > quickly found out. On occasion (usually for sonic reasons) I > get called on to produce classical music. There I feel like > a complete fraud since I'm just a fan, instead of someone > who has lived, breathed and been next to the source. I > announce right up front, that I am a fraud, that I am here > to make sure it all sounds great, that I am no expert on > this music. > > I've found that its good to get this out of the way right > from the start. The musicians appreciate it and we can move > on to complete the project with a common understanding. > > Point is, there really is a common understanding that folks > who, for a time, devoted their all to being around M, all > understand. > > I guess you could consider it "pulling rank" as a debate > tool if you like, but there really IS something about the > intense vibe in and around M that is difficult to convey to > those who weren't there. > > Now this other tactic of "I was closer to M than you were" > really is, as you say, a conceit of ego. Lately, I've been > running into that more around people who really were, to one > degree or another, around M for a period of time > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > > > "the "let-me-tell-you-[how-]close-I was-to > Maharishi" rap that > > > seems to be hard wired into these guys." > > > > > > Funny how both sides of the coin exhibit this > conceit. There > > > are a couple of our chums here on FFL who are > often making > > > the distinction that they were TM teachers > > > > Yeah, this is tricky for one of the critics in > particular, > > who makes a huge deal of the fact that someone who's > > disagreeing with him "never met MMY" or "was never > even > > in the same room with MMY," whereas *he* had spent > time > > with MMY, as if that somehow automatically > invalidated > > anything the other person might say about MMY or his > > teaching, and of course also automatically made the > critic > > *Right* about whatever *he* was maintaining. > > > > Curtis frequently pulls his sat-at-MMY's-feet rank > too, > > albeit in not so ridiculous a manner. > > > > > > > > > To subscrib
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM Q&A session on "David Wants to Fly" on YouTube
--- On Fri, 3/25/11, Rick Archer wrote: From: Rick Archer Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM Q&A session on "David Wants to Fly" on YouTube To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 10:58 PM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of seventhray1 Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 9:36 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM Q&A session on "David Wants to Fly" on YouTube > Bobby Roth does a really fine job in the question and answer session. I > watched a few - and he does avoid some difficult issues, but he is being who > he is - a true devotee. And he is also vey smart. > > He also has a very good heart. The guy really is full of love. > I have come to evaluate how I see those qualities differently in a person over the years. And I don't think I concur with your assessment. Perhaps well meaning, but that might be as far as I go. And I always liked him, although we were never friends. But I felt his performance was a little dishonest. Me too, although I’m not sure he is aware when he is being dishonest. Bobby lived and taught together in Detroit from 1982-84, and have remained fond friends ever since, even though our paths have diverged. So I speak from experience when I say he has a good, loving heart. But I certainly don’t agree with everything he says and does. The problem is that Bobby makes no room for any criticism of the TMO no matter how slight. He just won't or can't acknowledge anyones experience of the TMO or MMY as being anything less than perfect as having any legitimacy. He does this in a very polite, respectful way but when all is said and done the TMO/MMY are right and if you criticize it you are wrong.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM Q&A session on "David Wants to Fly" on YouTube
Very nice indeed! Bob's always been a good guy. --- On Fri, 3/25/11, curtisdeltablues wrote: > From: curtisdeltablues > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM Q&A session on "David Wants to Fly" on > YouTube > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 9:27 PM > I got an immediate apologetic reply > from Bob. Respect. > > This era of instant communication rocks! > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Memorial, Harry Pavelka
--- On Fri, 3/25/11, Rick Archer wrote: From: Rick Archer Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Memorial, Harry Pavelka To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, March 25, 2011, 11:47 AM From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Buck Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:31 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Memorial, Harry Pavelka Yep Harry died at the dome. Why do we mourn departed friends? Harry was one of those people you meet in life that was different. Harry in life was great heart-ed fun with a great mind and clear established intellect, and a bright light kind of guy all along. It's who he was here. In the old tapes with Maharishi discoursing, Harry was one of those people who when he got up to the question microphone could lead Maharishi through wonderful dialogues in series. Like Rick Archer was able to also. They were kind of a class of life-long meditator. Some of the more memorable dialogues on tape of the old days were with either of these guys at the mics with Maharishi. Seems there's a race against time as an old guard who knew Maharishi leave one by one. Harry was of a time. With fond regard R.I.P., -Buck in FFThe classic Harry-at-the-mic moment was when Maharishi started talking about Agni, and how the creation manifests as A proceeds to Ga, etc. Harry got up and said, “Oh come on Maharishi, do you mean to tell me that the whole universe comes out of a word?” Classic Harry! Harry wasn't in left field, he was in some other universe half the time!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Battle: Los Angeles
I enjoyed it in the theater, but it was a long-format commercial for the marines! Uh Yah! Gonna git me some alien! Peter On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:23 AM, turquoiseb wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> >> Yup, it is an ad for the Marine Corps. Sort of a modern day >> military movie with Aaron Eckhart playing the John Wayne role. > > I gave up after five minutes, and start fast-forwarding > to see if there was anything worth watching in the rest. > Deleted the film entirely after a total of ten minutes. > I agree with Roger Ebert: "To call this film science > fiction is an insult to both science and fiction." > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 1976-77 AEGTC Interlaken Switzerland
Harry is on Bevan's left. --- On Wed, 3/23/11, Buck wrote: > From: Buck > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 1976-77 AEGTC Interlaken Switzerland > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 11:50 PM > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "wayback71" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "Joe" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhh, a time when the men actually wore > different color jackets! > > > > > > > > (Except in Seelisberg. There, it was blue > suits, white shirts and red ties.) > > > > > > > > > > Yep, you notice a younger Bevan there too in the > picture? He got worked hard and took it seriously then > too. As the course ended and Bevan stayed on over > there some of us left him with newer threads to wear. Marc > Lerner was more Bevan's size and left Bevan some nicer suits > to use. We were all younger and leaner then. > > > > > > -Buck in FF > > > > Marc Lerner looks great in the photo. > > > > > > > Yea, there's a number of people in that photo still around > and several still in the TMmovement. That was a > powerful course, good time and a great group. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 1976-77 AEGTC Interlaken Switzerland
We ruleI think? --- On Thu, 3/24/11, pranamoocher wrote: From: pranamoocher Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 1976-77 AEGTC Interlaken Switzerland To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 12:26 AM Ah, the good old days of The Privileged White Caucasian male...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Memorial, Harry Pavelka
Blessing to you Harry on your journey.. --- On Wed, 3/23/11, m2smart4u2000 wrote: > From: m2smart4u2000 > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: In Memorial, Harry Pavelka > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 9:05 PM > > How is Susan doing? > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "Buck" wrote: > > > > Harry passed away today. > > > > Om Jai Harry Pavelka! > > > > Through TM he's an old friend. > > I've known Harry a long time. > > I'm a little bereft today. > > I will miss him along the way. > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Free Will? Article in NY Times
You've always posted this email. --- On Tue, 3/22/11, wayback71 wrote: > From: wayback71 > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Free Will? Article in NY Times > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 11:49 AM > Interesting article in today's > Science section: Do You Have Free Will? Yes, It's the > Only Choice. I am at work and can't sya more or > provide the link- but check it out, esp Barry. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of TM yagyas, illustrated
"Only we have the knowledge of how to engage the managing intelligence of Nature so directly and so powerfully. And with that knowledge comes the responsibility to act." What hubris and fantasy. Like buying a starving family rudraksha beads. Wrong dharma. Also, aren't yagyas done to prevent calamities? I'd also love to see a break-down of where all the money for the yagya goes. Probably 99.9% to Shrivastiva family and the rest to the pundits. The TMO disgusts me now. Money grubbing, manipulative pigs. --- On Mon, 3/21/11, hermandan0 wrote: From: hermandan0 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The science of TM yagyas, illustrated To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 11:51 PM What part of "give us money" do you not understand? "To this end, we invite you to join us in establishing a special emergency fund to create a very large, sustained Yagya for Japan." "We need everyone—hundreds of people—to contribute whatever they can. This will be vastly more powerful and effective than what the general public can achieve by contributing to rescue efforts and similar, classical approaches. Only we have the knowledge of how to engage the managing intelligence of Nature so directly and so powerfully. And with that knowledge comes the responsibility to act." "With a contribution of $1,250 or more, your name will be acknowledged in the Maharishi Yagya Performance, and we will provide you with special guidelines to follow during the days of the performance. Please send your donations today. Include your name and address, and you will receive a letter acknowledging your tax-deductible gift." Emphasis added. You must be as delusional as they are. Sorry or sordid... it's a tough call. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote: > > > > I think what is said about yagyas is accurate, and they work as described, > > but I also completely agree with Joe that 1) If the TMO wants to do a yagya > > for Japan, it should just go ahead and do it, and 2) the TMO has always > > acted in a cavalier way with donated money and that has permanently damaged > > their credibility. Personally I wouldn't give them a nickel. > > > They also did not ask for donations for Yagyas for Japan but stated that it > will be funded by the Brahmananda Saraswathi Fund. >
Re: [FairfieldLife] New research: TM improves standardized academic achievement
TM research with a control group! Oh happy day! Thank you Dr. Zygler. Peter On Mar 22, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Dick Mays wrote: > > > http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-03-transcendental-meditation-standardized-academic.html > Physorg.com > New research shows Transcendental Meditation improves standardized academic > achievement > March 21, 2011 > > This graph shows the increased math achievement in meditating students. > Credit: Maharishi University of Management > > The Transcendental Meditation technique may be an effective approach to > improve math and English academic achievement in low-performing students, > according to a new study published in the journal Education. > > The study was conducted at a California public middle school with 189 > students who were below proficiency level in English and math. Change in > academic achievement was evaluated using the California Standards Tests (CST). > > "The results of the study provide support to a recent trend in education > focusing on student mind/body development for academic achievement," said Dr. > Ronald Zigler, study co-author and associate professor at Penn State, > Abington. "We need more programs of this kind implemented into our nation's > public schools, with further evaluation efforts." > > Students who practiced the Transcendental Meditation program showed > significant increases in math and English scale scores and performance level > scores over a one-year period. Forty-one percent of the meditating students > showed a gain of at least one performance level in math compared to 15.0% of > the non-meditating controls. > New research shows Transcendental Meditation improves standardized academic > achievement > > > This graph shows the increased English achievement in meditating students. > Credit: Maharishi University of Management > > Among the students with the lowest levels of academic performance, "below > basic" and "far below basic," the meditating students showed a significant > improvement in overall academic achievement compared to controls, which > showed a slight gain. > > "This initial research, showing the benefits of the Quiet Time/Transcendental > Meditation program on academic achievement, holds promise for public > education" said Sanford Nidich, EdD, lead author and professor of education > at Maharishi University of Management. "The findings suggest that there is an > easy-to-implement, value-added educational program which can help > low-performing minority students begin to close the achievement gap," said > Dr. Nidich. > > The middle school level is of particular concern to educators because of low > academic performance nationally. Sixty-six percent of eighth-grade students > are below proficiency level in math and 68% are below proficiency level in > reading, based on 2009 National Assessment of Educational Progress data. > > Faculty surveyed as part of the project reported the Quiet > Time/Transcendental Meditation program to be a valuable addition to the > school. They reported the students to be calmer, happier, and less > hyperactive, with an increased ability to focus on schoolwork. In terms of > the school environment, faculty reported less student fights, less abusive > language, and an overall more relaxed and calm atmosphere since > implementation of the program. > Provided by Maharishi University of Management (http://www.mum.edu) > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Vedic vegetable garden: 'Never tasted anything so full, alive, and vital'
I got so blissed out reading this Vedic post while facing east that I was like, wow, samadhi! Peter On Mar 19, 2011, at 12:31 PM, Mike Dixon wrote: > > > I'm curious, how does a *vedic* garden make a vegetable taste better? Is it > really the vegetable or is it the person eating it, that believes it taste > better because it has the word *vedic* associated with it? Delicious is in > the palate of the taster. I'm always amused at how cool it is to be *blown > away* by anything associated with TM or M. "Oh man, that yagya blissed my ass > out for three fricken day"! "I had to take that Yellow Sapphire off after a > week of wearing it, 'cause I couldn't function in activity, I was so blissed- > out". "After practicing my new unstressing technique, I had to feel the body > for three straight days, it was working so well"(on me, because I'm so > evolved). Might be an interesting topic for a humorous look at the TM > movement. > > From: merlin > Sent: Fri, March 18, 2011 12:03:31 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Vedic vegetable garden: 'Never tasted anything so > full, alive, and vital' > > Vedic vegetable garden: 'Never tasted anything so full, alive, and vital' > > At Home in Maharishi Vastu > 17 March 2011 > > According to the first US clients of the Maharishi Vedic Garden Design > services, the difference between the vegetables produced by their first year > Vedic vegetable garden—compared to other locally produced, organic > vegetables—is dramatic. > > ''We used to buy our produce from [a national food store chain] until we > discovered a nearby farm that sold organic produce—freshly picked that > morning. The difference was striking and dramatic. Suddenly [the store's] > produce started looking not very 'fresh'. > > ''Then one day we sat down to the first harvest of salad greens from our > Maharishi Vedic garden. With the first bite my wife and I stared at each > other with a look of incredulity and delight. > > ''We had never, ever tasted anything that felt so full and alive and vital. > The difference from even the neighborhood organic farm was nothing short of > amazing. Now we only buy produce off-season when the garden is covered with > snow.'' > > This new service designs garden space for both vegetable and decorative > gardens. You can read about their services and the principles behind them on > their beautiful website: www.MaharishiVedicGarden.com > > > * Vastu refers to Vastu vidya, Vedic architecture—the knowledge of designing > and constructing Fortune-Creating buildings in accord with Natural > Law—brought to light in its completeness from the Vedic Literature by > Maharishi Mahesh Yogi as Maharishi Sthapatya Veda. > > © Copyright 2011 Maharishi Vastu® Architecture > > > > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Personalizing "forwards" with fiction (was Re: Sweet letter from Japan)
Bevan in MMY's will wasn't worth a mention because it's some dome zombie's fantasy! --- On Fri, 3/18/11, turquoiseb wrote: > From: turquoiseb > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Personalizing "forwards" with fiction (was Re: Sweet > letter from Japan) > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 11:10 AM > Following up on these thoughts, I > wanted to comment > on a line thrown out casually here yesterday. The > person who had earlier claimed that Bevan Morris > had been "written into Maharishi's Will" as the > leader of the TM movement in the West felt the need > to post a followup, saying that he "heard this from > someone who saw the Will." > > Not a single comment from the peanut gallery here. > I grew curious, so I searched FFL, and found not a > single mention of a will (other than a put-on "Last > Message" that someone wrote that was very funny). > Then I searched Google, and similarly found zero > mentions of a will ever existing. > > Then, because I was once curious enough about the > actual wording of Rama-Frederic Lenz's will to track > it down and get a copy (easy as pie in the US because > wills are public documents), I tried the same thing > here in the Netherlands. I was unsuccessful. Then I > called a Dutch friend who is a lawyer and she was > similarly unsuccessful, even though if one existed > it would have to be registered in the country in > which he died, in law libraries that she has full > access to. > > So am I wrong to assume that any mention of "Maharishi's > Will" is a similar attempt to "personalize" a made-up > story to theoretically give it more weight or credibility? > Has *anyone* heard of an actual legal "last will and > testa- > ment" written or dictated by Maharishi, witnessed by > lawyers, and recognized in any country? > > People make up shit all the time to make it seem that > the things they believe should be believed by others. > Until someone can produce an actual piece of paper (or > a scan or photocopy thereof) that can legally be certified > > to be "Maharishi's Will," I have to assume that no such > document exists. This might make me sound like the TM- > critic version of a "birther," but I prefer to think > of myself as a "deather?" :-) :-) :-) > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > turquoiseb wrote: > > > > I want to take a moment to commend Rick for passing > this letter > > along prefaced by the truth: "I have no idea who wrote > this, but > > received it from another friend." That's an honest > thing to do, > > and admirable. > > > > I say this because today I've found literally dozens > of copies > > of this letter, many heavily edited to either remove > or add text, > > many of which are introduced by the phrase, "This is a > letter > > from a personal friend of mine" or "This is a letter > from a > > member of my family in Japan," or "This is a letter > than my > > Dad received from his girlfriend in Japan" or > something similar. > > Google finds literally tens of thousands of hits on > this letter, > > *lots* of them "personalized" in this way. If we were > to > > believe all of these "personalizations," Anne really > gets > > around, has enough "boyfriends" to qualify as a real > slut, and > > has immediate family in hundreds of cities and dozens > of > > countries. :-) > > > > Stuff like this reminds me of letters or quotes > purporting to > > come from the Dalai Lama or someone else famous, but > which > > really have nothing to do with them. People find some > quote > > that inspires them but then can't just pass it along > like Rick > > did with a simple "I don't know who wrote this, but I > like it." > > Instead they have to make something up to "improve" > its > > "believability" or its "forwardability." > > > > Color me too "real world based" or "non New Age," but > I think > > that this *very* common Internet practice just sucks, > and > > detracts from the believability of such writing. As > far as I > > can tell there really might be a person named Anne > Thomas who > > wrote the original letter, but this practice of > "personalizing" > > her letter with fiction would lead any thoughtful > person to > > suspect that there isn't, and that the whole thing is > fiction. > > > > I'm giving the situation the "benefit of a doubt" and > assuming > > that the original letter is not fiction, but given the > way that > > people "passing it around" have tried to amplify or > personalize > > it *using* fiction, there is no real reason I should. > It's a > > really dumb practice, and I wish people would just > stop it. > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ramana Maharshi on Lokas
I just know it's Fairfield, Iowa some time in the mid 21st century. But I could be totally wrong. These experiences are just interesting and entertaining. Has anybody had a lifetime experience that was neither "future" not "past". I had one the other day the other day and it seemed "parallel" to this life. --- On Thu, 3/17/11, wayback71 wrote: > From: wayback71 > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ramana Maharshi on Lokas > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 11:06 AM > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > Peter wrote: > > > > Turq, I've had the same thing. Sometimes they are > strong as you mention, sometimes they are more momentary. > For instance, I have one of the life "after" this one. I'm > actually reborn in Fairfield, Iowa! I become aware of my > relative existence at about 2 years in my father's library > with dark shelves and books. What does all this actually > mean? Hell if I know! > > But how do you know it is Fairfield, Iowa? And do you > have an idea what year this is? > > > > --- On Thu, 3/17/11, turquoiseb > wrote: > > > > > From: turquoiseb > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ramana Maharshi on > Lokas > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 4:53 AM > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > Even we exist simultaneously in many > different bodies > > > in > > > > different lifetimes. Many are "future" to us > now which > > > > > > > brings up many questions regarding > "evolution" and > > > freewill. > > > > > > As I've said before (without asking anyone to > believe > > > me or "in" them), I've had quite a few > "flashbacks > > > of other lives," complete with "visuals" and > being > > > able to look around at the scenery of these > other > > > lives and interact with other people in them. > The > > > most fascinating thing about these flashes -- > what- > > > ever they are -- is that about a third of them > weren't > > > from the past. The "visuals" were clearly from a > future > > > life, based on the architecture and technology I > could > > > see around me in the flashes themselves. > > > > > > I've always assumed that "multiple lifetimes" was > a > > > very possible reality (although one that can > never > > > be proven), but not on a linear timeline. > Conceptually, > > > I have no problem with all of these incarnations > -- > > > past, present, and future -- happening > simultaneously. > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/16/11, yifuxero > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: yifuxero > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ramana > Maharshi on > > > Lokas > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 11:40 > PM > > > > > "The Maharshi", Mar/Apr 2011, Vol 21, > > > > > No. 2, p. 4, article by Sri Krishna > Bikshu, > > > Voruganti > > > > > Venkata Krishnaiah, (1904-1981), a > disciple of > > > Ramana > > > > > Maharshi; entitled "Bhagavan Referring > to the > > > Self and the > > > > > Lokas". > > > > > ... > > > > > "I have also heard Bhagavan say: "I > have at this > > > moment > > > > > twenty different bodies working in > twenty > > > different lokas, > > > > > so if one of them suffers am I to > grieve? I am > > > not the body. > > > > > One who considers himself the body may > grieve, > > > but how > > > > > should I?". > > > > > . > > > > > "On a different occasion we put the > same question > > > to > > > > > Bhagavan, asking how he could exist in > a number > > > of lokas at > > > > > the same time and he said that one > could have as > > > many bodies > > > > > as he wished if he had the necessary > poweer of > > > yoga". > > > > > . > > > > > "We must remember that the lokas are > empirical > > > realities no > > > > > more real than this world of ours
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ramana Maharshi on Lokas
Turq, I've had the same thing. Sometimes they are strong as you mention, sometimes they are more momentary. For instance, I have one of the life "after" this one. I'm actually reborn in Fairfield, Iowa! I become aware of my relative existence at about 2 years in my father's library with dark shelves and books. What does all this actually mean? Hell if I know! --- On Thu, 3/17/11, turquoiseb wrote: > From: turquoiseb > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ramana Maharshi on Lokas > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 4:53 AM > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > Peter wrote: > > > > Even we exist simultaneously in many different bodies > in > > different lifetimes. Many are "future" to us now which > > > brings up many questions regarding "evolution" and > freewill. > > As I've said before (without asking anyone to believe > me or "in" them), I've had quite a few "flashbacks > of other lives," complete with "visuals" and being > able to look around at the scenery of these other > lives and interact with other people in them. The > most fascinating thing about these flashes -- what- > ever they are -- is that about a third of them weren't > from the past. The "visuals" were clearly from a future > life, based on the architecture and technology I could > see around me in the flashes themselves. > > I've always assumed that "multiple lifetimes" was a > very possible reality (although one that can never > be proven), but not on a linear timeline. Conceptually, > I have no problem with all of these incarnations -- > past, present, and future -- happening simultaneously. > > > --- On Wed, 3/16/11, yifuxero > wrote: > > > > > From: yifuxero > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ramana Maharshi on > Lokas > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 11:40 PM > > > "The Maharshi", Mar/Apr 2011, Vol 21, > > > No. 2, p. 4, article by Sri Krishna Bikshu, > Voruganti > > > Venkata Krishnaiah, (1904-1981), a disciple of > Ramana > > > Maharshi; entitled "Bhagavan Referring to the > Self and the > > > Lokas". > > > ... > > > "I have also heard Bhagavan say: "I have at this > moment > > > twenty different bodies working in twenty > different lokas, > > > so if one of them suffers am I to grieve? I am > not the body. > > > One who considers himself the body may grieve, > but how > > > should I?". > > > . > > > "On a different occasion we put the same question > to > > > Bhagavan, asking how he could exist in a number > of lokas at > > > the same time and he said that one could have as > many bodies > > > as he wished if he had the necessary poweer of > yoga". > > > . > > > "We must remember that the lokas are empirical > realities no > > > more real than this world of ours but also no > less > > > real. Bhagavan confirmed this when a group of > > > disciples from Tiruchirapalli asked him whether > Siva and the > > > other Gods and their ehavens really exist. "Do > you > > > exist?" he retorted. They replied that they did, > and he > > > said: "Then in the same way they do too". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Ramana Maharshi on Lokas
Even we exist simultaneously in many different bodies in different lifetimes. Many are "future" to us now which brings up many questions regarding "evolution" and freewill. --- On Wed, 3/16/11, yifuxero wrote: > From: yifuxero > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Ramana Maharshi on Lokas > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 11:40 PM > "The Maharshi", Mar/Apr 2011, Vol 21, > No. 2, p. 4, article by Sri Krishna Bikshu, Voruganti > Venkata Krishnaiah, (1904-1981), a disciple of Ramana > Maharshi; entitled "Bhagavan Referring to the Self and the > Lokas". > ... > "I have also heard Bhagavan say: "I have at this moment > twenty different bodies working in twenty different lokas, > so if one of them suffers am I to grieve? I am not the body. > One who considers himself the body may grieve, but how > should I?". > . > "On a different occasion we put the same question to > Bhagavan, asking how he could exist in a number of lokas at > the same time and he said that one could have as many bodies > as he wished if he had the necessary poweer of yoga". > . > "We must remember that the lokas are empirical realities no > more real than this world of ours but also no less > real. Bhagavan confirmed this when a group of > disciples from Tiruchirapalli asked him whether Siva and the > other Gods and their ehavens really exist. "Do you > exist?" he retorted. They replied that they did, and he > said: "Then in the same way they do too". > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] A of L isn't just for Indians, is it?
Ha ha! I'm glad that Self is outside of any culture. All this crap is the pretty pony you ride around on! --- On Wed, 3/16/11, Tom Pall wrote: From: Tom Pall Subject: [FairfieldLife] A of L isn't just for Indians, is it? To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 4:21 PM [austin-satsang] Invitation to "Bollywood & Beyond" - an ART OF LIVING FUNDRAISER on March 26th [1 Attachment] | Shyam Gannavaram to austin-satsang show details Mar 15 (2 days ago) Images are not displayed. Display images below - Always display images from shyam.gannava...@gmail.com [Attachment(s) from Shyam Gannavaram included below] Dear Friends, Join us on Sat, March 26th for the Bollywood and Beyond Concert Fund-raiser. It will be a fun-filled evening of music, dance and food - talented musicians from the OMKARA Band, will have you humming, tapping and shaking to Bollywood hits and semi-classical Indian music. As an added attraction, the evening will also feature a Live Dance performance by the Bollywood Shake group. Sponsorship opportunities are also available to get the word out about your business to a diverse 600+ local crowd. Proceeds from the Concert will support our Austin Art of Living Center and local programs to uncover the strength, peace, and joy that lie at the core of every human being. With your support, we can together help build a society that is free of stress, violence, and misery - and full of service, wisdom, and celebration. The evening of music & dance will be led by the OMKARA (OmkaraAustin.com) group, a not-for-profit organization that supports global charities through music show fundraisers. Please help get the word out to all your friends, colleagues, and social circles! Click here to purchase Tickets More information about the fundraiser, sponsorship opportunities, and tickets at http://bollywoodandbeyondshow.info/ or by calling Prasanna (512) 740-4012 Click here if you can't view the e-flyer
Re: [FairfieldLife] Sweet letter from Japan
Wow! Great letter of someone open to a deeper process beyond themselves. Had a degree of this in south Florida after a hurricane with no electricity and all the neighbors sitting in the dark quiet streets visiting by candle light. Something so calm and peaceful and loving. Peter On Mar 16, 2011, at 11:29 AM, "Rick Archer" wrote: > Letter from Japan > Friends, > I have no idea who wrote this, but received it from another friend > > > > > A letter from Sendai > 3/14/2011 > > > > Things here in Sendai have been rather surreal. But I am very blessed to > have wonderful friends who are helping me a lot. Since my shack is even more > worthy of that name, I am now staying at a friend's home. We share supplies > like water, food and a kerosene heater. We sleep lined up in one room, eat > by candlelight, share stories. It is warm, friendly, and beautiful. > > During the day we help each other clean up the mess in our homes. People > sit in their cars, looking at news on their navigation screens, or line up > to get drinking water when a source is open. If someone has water running in > their home, they put out a sign so people can come to fill up their jugs and > buckets. > > It's utterly amazingly that where I am there has been no looting, no > pushing in lines. People leave their front door open, as it is safer when an > earthquake strikes. People keep saying, "Oh, this is how it used to be in > the old days when everyone helped one another." > > Quakes keep coming. Last night they struck about every 15 minutes. Sirens > are constant and helicopters pass overhead often. > > We got water for a few hours in our homes last night, and now it is for > half a day. Electricity came on this afternoon. Gas has not yet come on. But > all of this is by area. Some people have these things, others do not. No one > has washed for several days. We feel grubby, but there are so much more > important concerns than that for us now. I love this peeling away of > non-essentials. Living fully on the level of instinct, of intuition, of > caring, of what is needed for survival, not just of me, but of the entire > group. > > There are strange parallel universes happening. Houses a mess in some > places, yet then a house with futons or laundry out drying in the sun. > People lining up for water and food, and yet a few people out walking their > dogs. All happening at the same time. > > > Other unexpected touches of beauty are first, the silence at night. No > cars. No one out on the streets. And the heavens at night are scattered with > stars. I usually can see about two, but now the whole sky is filled. The > mountains are Sendai are solid and with the crisp air we can see them > silhouetted against the sky magnificently. > > And the Japanese themselves are so wonderful. I come back to my shack to > check on it each day, now to send this e-mail since the electricity is on, > and I find food and water left in my entranceway. I have no idea from whom, > but it is there. Old men in green hats go from door to door checking to see > if everyone is OK. People talk to complete strangers asking if they need > help. I see no signs of fear. Resignation, yes, but fear or panic, no. > > They tell us we can expect aftershocks, and even other major quakes, for > another month or more. And we are getting constant tremors, rolls, shaking, > rumbling. I am blessed in that I live in a part of Sendai that is a bit > elevated, a bit more solid than other parts. So, so far this area is better > off than others. Last night my friend's husband came in from the country, > bringing food and water. Blessed again. > > Somehow at this time I realize from direct experience that there is indeed > an enormous Cosmic evolutionary step that is occurring all over the world > right at this moment. And somehow as I experience the events happening now > in Japan, I can feel my heart opening very wide. My brother asked me if I > felt so small because of all that is happening. I don't. Rather, I feel as > part of something happening that much larger than myself. This wave of > birthing (worldwide) is hard, and yet magnificent. > > Thank you again for your care and Love of me. > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Christiane Amanpour
Ha ha! This is pretty funny, Mike! --- On Sun, 3/13/11, Mike Dixon wrote: From: Mike Dixon Subject: [FairfieldLife] Christiane Amanpour To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, March 13, 2011, 11:14 AM I was greatly disappointed this morning, waiting for This Week to come on, I fully expected Christiane Amanpour to be dressed in full Geisha regalia to interview Japanese guests on the program today. Well at least she didn't wear the burqa today.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Usama Story Redux
--- On Fri, 3/11/11, jpgillam wrote: > From: jpgillam > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Usama Story Redux > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 6:19 PM > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "Buck" wrote: > > > > It's also why we have prisons. To keep the rest of > > us safe. It's what civil societies do, separate > the > > asocial from the social > > Here's a scenario to entertain: The people who were > defending their property from an intruder get convicted of a > crime and go to prison. There, they learn vipassana > meditation and love it. Upon returning to Fairfield, they > convert the 'rus to vipassana practice, and the town dries > up as a TM bastion. Revenge of the townies! > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Usama Story Redux
Wow! The plot is certainly starting to thicken as they say. Is this a good source? --- On Fri, 3/11/11, WillyTex wrote: > From: WillyTex > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Usama Story Redux > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 4:46 PM > > > > > If it happened it was vicious... > > > > Peter: > > I don't think anybody really knows > > right now, Buck. The cops will get > > this sorted out. > > > According to my sources in Fairfield, > Usama was not only drunk but he tried > to pick a fight with one of the minors > inside the house - that's why he was > thrown out into the street. > > It is illegal to enter a house uninvited > with minors inside when you are obviously > drunk and publicly intoxicated. > > So, maybe Usama should be put in jail > and fined for disturbing the peace. If > he says he can't even remember what > happened, that's a sure sign that he > was doing something very wrong with > the minors inside. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Usama Story Redux
--- On Fri, 3/11/11, Buck wrote: > From: Buck > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Usama Story Redux > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 12:59 PM > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Usama Story > Redux > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 10:22 AM > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > > > Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I was communicating with a person on > Facebook who > > > > claims to know what happened that night to > Usama. Here are > > > > their comments to me: > > > > > > > > > > "Mr. Usama walked in on saturday night. > There is no > > > > need to point fingers at anyone. And the > truth has come out > > > > that Usama was highly intoxicated that night > and walked into > > > > the home of 16 and 17 year old kids, mixed > with some WHO > > > > MEDITATE AND SOME DID NOT, and they did NOT > beat him up. He > > > > stumbled around on my own street that night > knocking over > > > > trash cans which explains how he got the > gash on his > > > > forehead." > > > > > > > > > > "As for the kids, I've heard it from > the source, their > > > > neighboors, and I myself being a neighbor. I > respect Mr. > > > > Alshaibi but a few too many drinks can turn > any good man > > > > into a stranger. > > > > > thank you for your time and thoughts." > > > > > > > > > > "I know every single person that was in > that house. > > > > > Usama also bumped into my trash can > that night and was > > > > stumbling around our street that night > singing loudly. it > > > > was reported that he was kicked out of the > Vivo's bar for > > > > being "rowdy". > > > > > > > > > > "all the kids that were there reported > to the police > > > > the following day but the paper made it > sound like they > > > > didn't know." > > > > > > > > > > "Like I said, a few too many drinks can > turn any good > > > > man into a stranger! He is a highly > respected man, by > > > > myself, and actually those kids as well. I > went with them to > > > > see one of his documentaries! I hope things > can be solved > > > > peacefully." > > > > > > > > > > > > > That was carefully written. So it's being > pleaded on > > > > facebook now. It's evidently an extremely > serious > > > > crime the families are involved with. > > > > Of course they are going to say he fell over > garbage cans. > > > > But, the problem is you don't get banged up > that way > > > > falling over a garbage can sober or drunk. > > > > I hope it all gets presented in public and > not just > > > > procedurally buried because it is > > > > a bunch of juveniles. If it happened it > was > > > > heinous. This kind of thing > > > > should not be sanctioned at all if half of > it was > > > > true. If they did it, those kids should > be > > > > removed from the breeding gene pool of the > community. > > > > Getting 'Community service' is not enough. > At least > > > > put signs on them. We don't need that > seed > > > > flowing around. If it happened it was > vicious. > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > I don't think anybody really knows right now, > Buck. The cops will get this sorted out. > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, on theory that it may take a bully to know a > bully, you're possibly right that they'll probably figure it > out. An irony to those of us who do live here in this > is that this kind of bullying thing has been a element of > its own within the culture of the police here over the > years. Not with all of them,there are good > professional ones too. But regardless, it > would be nice to have a public reading of this > situation. We'll all be safer for it in the end with > an open public reading of the Iowa anti-hate code as law on > this. > > -Buck > > > > Om Dear Dr. Pete, > It's an interesting communal complexion. From your sources > pray tell just for the record, could you find out whether it > was a meditator or a non-meditator who got the first punch > in on Usama? > -Buck Buck, from what she wrote me, she's saying nobody punched him. I wonder too because those are some pretty serious damages from a fall into a garbage can. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links > > > fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com > > >
