Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If you want to diss your imaginary God, it is helpful to keep in mind that She, is, in fact, female, and always will be. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The guy has a point. And he also has a point that God -- if The Bible can be seen as an accurate record of His works -- has ki

Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks for that! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : First you experience Shiva for some time, then Vishnu and when you start to experience the Devi it has no end. - Maharishi, from private notes ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : If you want to diss your imaginary G

Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Quite remarkable, me seeing this description from you (here in my trailer park – lol) -- My first thought was, “How could they know? I haven’t told anyone…”. Seriously, I noticed an alignment with Shiva, starting about 21 years ago – green, grey, discrimination, boldness, Guru Dev as Shiva d

[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-09 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
YES, they are LOUD - quite a shock wave. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I live in a bit of crime area and work in a resurgent area. But I do plan to get my cc permit in a couple weeks. I went to the shooting range last week to get familiar with the two hand guns passed down t

[FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Fanaticism is always ugly - yours, included. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Recently I've seen more and more news articles about "smart guns," which can be personalized such that they can only be fired by their owners or someone pre-authorized by them. "Ah," I said to myself, "

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hi Curtis - you were talking about perception vs. reality, earlier, regarding the 'God' idea (and not to get into that again, though I appreciated some of your points...), and in the same way, the risk of getting shot is not great, although given this age of knowledge, we know about it, instantl

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
yep, from zip guns, to 3D printers. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Doesn't take much technology to build a completely new one, from scratch, either! On Friday, May 9, 2014 8:09 AM, "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote: I agree with the gun saturation making t

Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-10 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I know there are a lot of detractors of the technique, and the way it is taught, but the best advice I ever heard about TM and TMSP, was, 'take it easy, take it as it comes' - and also, I might add, let it go, as it goes (to make room for what is coming). I remember when Shiva began to fade,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: It turns out that America is more insane than I thought

2014-05-10 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You are extrapolating for about two hundred million of us (urban dwellers). There is no constant low level fear here. As usual, I don't know anyone who thinks the way you assume they do. My daughter lives in a big city, and goes drinking with her buddies in sketchy neighborhoods, sometimes - no

Re: [FairfieldLife] For the anti-abortionists here -- choke on this.

2014-05-10 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The car moving thing - There is a car wash I go to, just for that experience (cheap thrills) -- The washing module surrounds the car, and moves from the front to the back. So cool -- I hit the brakes the first time it happened. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Well, along these li

[FairfieldLife] Casino Royale it wasn't

2014-05-10 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
but I still had a good time last night. I was sitting around in my trailer, not feeling very tired at around 10 PM. So I headed out onto highway 99, and drove about 20 miles north and west, to one of the Indian (American Indian) casinos around here. They had slot machines, and table games, but I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Casino Royale it wasn't

2014-05-10 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
damn - you should've kept playing! The table games are a whole 'nother level, and you probably need a bigger stake, $1000 or so, to play the ups and downs, and be successful. I just like the slots, even though I miss carrying around the buckets of quarters, and hearing them spill into the win tr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend

2014-05-11 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It is interesting that many atheists, or non-theists, have a very clear idea of the God that they say doesn't exist. They can describe this Being, who is a complete fiction to them, better than many who actually believe in God. How funny is that? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

[FairfieldLife] Chico's "Best place to pray"

2014-05-11 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I was looking in the local paper, and came across the 'Best of Chico' list, for 2013. There are all kinds of categories, for food, services, and fun. One of the categories is, "Best place to pray". These lists usually have three results, and the second and third were, predictably, churches. Howe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend

2014-05-11 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If you go for this, it's pretty important, that the cover art for the book, contains, at a minimum, a shining sun, blue sky, and a multi-ethnic group of people, some in native garb, mostly smiling a bit too much, with a few, 'deep in thought'. Splash quotes on the cover, by Ram Dass, and Dee

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend

2014-05-11 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
but...but...she's so forgettable...I'll consider Jane Fonda?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : If you go for this, it's pretty important, that the cover art for the book, contains, at a minimum, a shining sun, blue sky, and a mu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend

2014-05-11 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
How 'bout, Betty White? Everybody loves Betty White...and I wouldn't be surprised, if, over her long acting career, she didn't plug at least a couple of Kraft products - perhaps mini-marshmallows, and A1 Steak Sauce... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : but...but...she's so forgetta

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are 'visions of God' really just temporal lobe epilepsy?

2014-05-12 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Like trying to find a needle in a haystack, with a bulldozer. Oh well, I suppose it at least gets the silly scientists thinking about God. May they stumble on! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That's one of the questions posed by this excellent article from Salon.com. Heav

Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If I may summarize: You feel that your ability to enrage and insult others, and for them to respond in kind, is a hallmark of your ultimate freedom as a human being, your ability to exert your Free Will, to demonstrate your 'control'. Actually, it is a fantasy -- All you are, in the eyes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Angels Fly

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This is a fun read - the key element, to me, being the very dynamic, yet coherent, aspect of the whole process [of enlightenment]. Refreshing, too, to read the account of someone established in Being, vs. the 'experts' on here, with a lifetime total, of a couple weeks of witnessing under their b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tyrion Lannister's Emmy Reel

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Glad you got the smack down - See, you can behave yourself, as this post demonstrates, and you are back on safe ground (TV). One quarter gold star, for you (that's motivation, son...). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Just a note for those who may be following "Game Of Thrones" on

RE: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, but they can advertise it as from the same car family as, and I hate to admit it, Jaguar (now produced by India's Tata Motors). ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Seems like it wouldn’t pass a crash test, unless significantly modified. No front bumpers even. From: Fairfi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A fave of mine, too. Written by Pete Seeger, and made famous by the Byrds. Here's Pete, on God, from wikipedia: When asked about his religious or spiritual views, Seeger replied: "I feel most spiritual when I’m out in the woods. I feel part of nature http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantheism. O

[FairfieldLife] Re: A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A 'Reliant Robin'! The guy up the block works on old British cars, and I've seen one of those parked around here. Also a two-seater, bubble-top, right-hand drive, that the owner rides around in, with his dalmatian in the passenger seat, looking as if the dog is driving. ---In FairfieldLife@

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I don't think there are extraordinary health issues with Hillary, but Rove is an excellent strategist. He is a class of political operative, who will say anything to win. So, he chooses a topic that is alarming, personal health, and then wields his innuendo, like a master, "I never said she had

[FairfieldLife] Re: 5/13-Maharishi: The normality of Brahman

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good to know, for us brainwashed cult members - Thank you! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : You can also order "Conversations with Maharishi" vol. 1 from MUM, highly recommendable. Lot's of very interesting topics, the translation and commentaries to the Brahma Sutras being on

[FairfieldLife] Re: A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-13 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
hmmm, perhaps a spotted corgi... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Are you sure it was a dalmatian? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : A 'Reliant Robin'! The guy up the block works on old British cars, and I've seen one of those parked around here. Also a two-sea

Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I will be more than pleased when that little corporate elitist goes tripping off on his endless love me party cycle, once out of office. Can't wait. Because of his misplaced allegiance, to his second term, he blatantly sold out people like me. I now pay $4k annually, for medical insurance, that

Re: [FairfieldLife] A thought -- freely willed -- about determinism

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ha - good story --reminded me of the way Barry reacted, when jr posted that atheists cannot transcend. Seeing his over the top response, at the time, my first thought was that Barry has weak experiences, during meditation. Not a big deal to me, though this self-proclaimed, 'cult sociologist'

Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Guilty! I voted for the little bastard. Oh well - still better than Scary Mitch and Paul, but I am so tired of voting for the best of the worst. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The Obama fellow is "all hat no cattle". His non-delivery of promises is no surprise in "esoteric" ci

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Once you know yourself, not just intellectually, but in every way possible, unbounded awareness, cancer cannot get a foot hold. Cancer is usually an emotional disease, although it eventually manifests physically. Any repressed block of emotion can solidify into a cancer. ---In FairfieldLife@yah

[FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Personally, I just see Buck, cantering around the corral, and having some fun. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Buck hasn't won anything but the Pain in the Butt Award, IMHO. It's dishonest of him to claim Alex took what he quoted "out of context." What's out of context is the sin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I didn't say anything about tap dancing, just unbounded awareness. :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I agree, fleetwood, and have great appreciation for all kinds of energy work like EFT tapping. On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:53 AM, "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]"

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Atheists Can't Transcend

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
hey, John, have there been any more of them Ketu periods for the US, since then ('65 to '72), or scheduled for the future? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Share, The hippie movement was a cultural transformation for the American people, which included the assimilation of spir

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You just have to be minimally careful these days with cars - oil change every 5K miles will keep the engine running forever, and it is easy to do yourself. Keep enough water in the radiator, proper inflation for the tires, and check for cracked hoses and belts. That's about it, and don't buy cer

Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
They consider it MURDER. Not just rhetoric; that is how they really see it, as the murder of a child. That is why they are so upset about it. I do not agree, at all, but I certainly see why they become fanatics. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Judy, sure I've heard the arguments

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I guess it is good for something, then.:-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That could be true for ordinary people but not for Yogis, They often get cancer when their Work here is over and they are needed elsewhere. Happenned to many, Guru Dev included. ---In FairfieldLife@yaho

Re: [FairfieldLife] Bernie in Iowa

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Joe Biden, Vice-President-In-Perpetuity! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 5/13/2014 8:56 PM, raunchydog@... mailto:raunchydog@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: > Sen. Bernie Sanders will be the main dinner speaker on May 17 at the > “Hall of Fame Dinner for 2014″ hosted by the Cli

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
So, this is, 'Charly', and you are Cliff Robertson?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Got it, fleetwood! Your unbounded awareness does not include tap dancing. Better luck next time (-: On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:57 AM, "fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife]" wrote:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
do you mean in general, or...? :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Methinks Share forgot to add, "IN MY HUMBLE OPINION." :) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Exactly. And also why they want abortion to be illegal. Why that should be hard to understand, I can't

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I wasn't thinking of reallly old dudes, just your average Biff, Skip, Chet, Betty and Chip. The old dudes invariably die of something called, "old age" - sadly, it is always fatal. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : What about people like Ramana Maharishi and Ramakrisna who died o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You *liked* it?? OK, I am learning the whole, "I'll discover something interesting from the higher planes of existence, and you will pay me handsomely for it", game. 500 clams, please. Please let me know if that is too much, or not enough, whatever... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wro

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Can you summarize wtf it is, in 25 words or less? It has always sounded somewhat neurotic to me... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : My wife was chatting with a co-worker recently and was describing some the challenges we're going through with my son, who just turned 21. The co

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep - get the electorate jaded about the front runners, so the bush leaguers look better, when they enter the now dumbed down "race". ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Fleetwood, Karl Rove is a shrewd negative spin artist. Now, he's got Bill Clinton to speak up in defense of

Re: [FairfieldLife] A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-14 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A 'Rock Star' for you - lol - always loved fred, barney, wilma, betty, dino, pebbles, bam bam, the order of the buffalo, and all the rest. As the title song says, "...a gay old time...". ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 5/13/2

[FairfieldLife] Re: Elections is a waste of time

2014-05-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good one - If Mark Twain was alive today, they'd probably lock him up for something. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : "If voting made a difference, they wouldn't let us do it" - Mark Twain

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sorry dude, this distraction thing doesn't work for many of us any more. Maharishi has been dead a long time now. You apparently have only witnessed for about two weeks, out of your whole life. I, and countless others, do it 24x7, and have now, for years and years - it is an established

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Ha-ha - the wooden shoes! And all that multidimensional crap he spouts, just to hide the fact that she finds him sexually unattractive. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Sorry dude, this distraction thing doesn't work for many of u

[FairfieldLife] criticizing spiritual life, from the vantage point of ignorance

2014-05-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Enlightenment. Funny, because no one talks about this topic here, despite this forum's alleged purpose. Fellows like Barry (or Bawee) who criticizes Maharishi endlessly, haven't had a good meditation during this century. The criticizers have just a very small amount of spiritual experience betw

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"An enthusiastic response" from me? Nope, just stay far enough away from me, to keep your bleeding heart from ruining my shirt. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Sorry dude, this distraction thing doesn't work for many of us any mo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, these critics do not have a clue. Literally. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The utterly strange think is that the Turq refers to his two weeks of witnessing in Italy DECADES ago whenever someone here mentions spiritual experiences. What is this kind of nonsense, the fel

Re: [FairfieldLife] Can Robots Transcend?

2014-05-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Seems we want autonomous robots to either fuck, or kill. Who cares about sentience? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : But do they dream of electric sheep? On 05/15/2014 02:15 AM, salyavin808 wrote: Sentient robots? Not possible if you do the maths So long, robot pals – an

[FairfieldLife] Re: A pretty cool car, and it's from India

2014-05-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
nice car, but the sutra is slightly off - gaining unbounded purse control, is not necessary - only the realization that luxury cars, particularly Jags, depreciate very quickly! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : thanks going along...watching Merudanda TV... Ahh unbounded---t

[FairfieldLife] Re: criticizing spiritual life, from the vantage point of ignorance

2014-05-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
True - It is precisely that frustration which has them spouting endlessly. Frustration that could be dissolved with TM and TMSP; establishment of Being. Yes, the one hoping for a disease free old age has taken it upon himself to question and challenge the laws of the universe. We will see who wi

Re: [FairfieldLife] criticizing spiritual life, from the vantage point of ignorance

2014-05-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
y'know, particularly in your case, there may be a speck of gold in with all the horse shit, from time to time, but there is still an awful lot of horse shit. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : The criticisms are not empty and some of us have not lost the capacity for logical critic

[FairfieldLife] A couple of really good westerns

2014-05-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
These movies bored me to tears, when I was a kid - but now I find them quite entertaining -- I watched Anthony Quinn, as a gunfighter turned sheriff, in, "The Man From Del Rio" - 1956, I think. Good acting - I always liked him, though he seems a better actor when younger. Currently watc

[FairfieldLife] Re: facing a lack of spiritual experience head on

2014-05-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Boys, boys -- lest we get distracted. The original point was about, on the one hand, your relative lack of self-reported spiritual experience, and, on the other, your fantasized expertise, regarding same. I see a lot of hot air, but no answers to such a question. I admit it is a very tough q

[FairfieldLife] Re: criticizing spiritual life, from the vantage point of ignorance

2014-05-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Please read again what you have ridiculously written: First you refer to me as an asshole, and then ask for an explanation?? wtf is that? You are obviously enjoying an evening at the pub... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Fir

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-15 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's funny as shit! As I said... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Comments below... Especially coming from one of the "Maharishi enlightened." "What if what has been described as enlightenment in the past has *absolutely nothing* to do with personality or behavior? What

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: facing a lack of spiritual experience head on

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry: You don't do TM, you don't have a God, and you are not established in Being. WTF do you care, and why are you not focused on yourself, instead of asking these pointless questions? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : From: "dhamiltony2k5@... [FairfieldLife]" To: FairfieldL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators and Hillary's Health: An Issue in 2016?

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I think he who knows nothing was making a reference to the occult, or something. Who knows? That is a case of the ego driving the mouth, and anything is possible. Beautiful combs! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : That's funny a

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Good joke - does he really? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : They both suck without Cream. Yup, but here's a fascinating article about something we beat boys always knew instinctively. Science Shows How Drummers' Brains Are Actually Different From Everybody Elses' ht

[FairfieldLife] commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As Rick Archer's quote said earlier, the only one wasting his time, is the one running around, shitting on others' spiritual paths. There are basically two approaches to enlightenment - either you go for it, or you don't. However, Barry and Curtis, have discovered a third way - You attempt e

[FairfieldLife] making a mountain out of a molehill - Barry's 'enlightenment'

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This guy just cracks me up, when I think about it - he is so smug and know-it-all, about things he knows nothing about. I had mentioned his TWO WEEKS OF LIFETIME WITNESSING, as his mental equivalent of living Being; Unbounded Awareness. In other words, Barry thinks he has experienced everything

[FairfieldLife] Re: making a mountain out of a molehill - Barry's 'enlightenment'

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, we have all suffered enough, listening to this know nothing blowhard. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This guy just cracks me up, when I think about it - he is so smug and know-it-all, about things he knows nothing about.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cafe Zen

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This is definitely more your speed, Barry - Please do us a BIG FAVOR, and continue to talk about your cafe experiences and movies, and television shows, and playing with your roommate's daughter. You know something about these subjects, and although they do not speak to your spiritual paucity, a

Re: [FairfieldLife] commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Rank beginners in terms of spiritual advancement, not cult following. In terms of cult following, Barry and Curtis have us all beat, hands down. That is why they piss and moan about it, so often. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : On 5/16/2014 7:32 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mail

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry and Curtis commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You keep trying to distract me, and make this about me. It isn't, Curtis. It is about you and Barry prattling on about 'enlightenment'. Something neither of you knows anything about. You can keep up your dodging and weaving, but it ain't gonna get either of you to Cosmic Consciousness, or beyond

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hey, Michael, I was at the Kansas City Siddhaland, while Curtis was wasting his time in Florida. There were no additional techniques, and we were not invited to perfect the sidhis, simply to learn them. That was in 1979-80. You have to be careful listening to either Barry or Curtis, as both of t

[FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, I am all for questioning institutions, and yes, even those institutions teaching appropriate techniques for enlightenment, will eventually be at odds with some of their students and teachers, for the reasons you mention. However, the trend around here, for a couple of ex-TM teachers, seem

[FairfieldLife] Re: Barry and Curtis commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It is really funny, Curtis, Barry endlessly making BIG about his LIFETIME TWO WEEKS of witnessing, and your alluding to your own 'advanced experiences'. That is my context - I don't make this shit up, you did. So, if you feel my mention of your lack of spiritual experience (e.g. witnessing)

Re: [FairfieldLife] What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Interesting stuff - I am curious about how you would characterize Phil Collins, when he was both drumming, and singing his songs? Obviously he is keeping time, and it is his band, but he seems to have a looser style than simply a time-keeper. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Kin

Re: [FairfieldLife] What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Makes sense -- great story about the drifting tempo - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Drummers when they sing are focusing on the vocal not the drumming. But Collins is probably enough of a pro it doesn't matter. That's the thing, I only had problems with non-pro musicians o

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
A few were nice, like Rick's brother-in-law, and Mark P, and a couple were real pricks, but easy enough to avoid - The work was really hard, and physical, so there wasn't room for much elitist stuff, and we got a lot of latitude, as a result. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : I do

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hey, Carde, ever heard of a unit of measure called a "poronkusema"? Apparently the Samis use it - the distance a reindeer travels before it has to pee. I just found out today. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : A bit tense and inaccurate, but sounds quite good, though: http://dru

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Curtis writes: "The problem was that I don't think he [Maharishi] is right about human consciousness." I am willing to bet a jelly donut, that the other mouthy ex-TM teacher on FFL, agrees with you, here. My only question is: How do you know Maharishi is wrong, if you have not completed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh, Curtis, no need to play COY - It is clear you do not witness 24x7, are not established in Being, and have no clue what it was you were supposed to be teaching others to accomplish, during your daze as a TM-teacher. Quit the smoke-screen. You and the other phony "enlightened" ex-TM teacher

[FairfieldLife] Re: What do Ginger Baker and black coffee have in common?

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Excellent! It is good that such things have survived all the tech. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes, I have. Another is 'penin-kulma', originally probably 'penin-kuulema', 10 kilometres, a distance a dog's (peni) barking can still be heard (kuulla) from??

[FairfieldLife] the deer this morning

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I mentioned them earlier: a closer look https://app.box.com/s/0toaopzloex24swoxn8r https://app.box.com/s/0toaopzloex24swoxn8r deer eating clover https://app.box.com/s/phi5lwcj1eh54ibtjfxn https://app.box.com/s/phi5lwcj1eh54ibtjfxn listening https://app.box.com/s/cqgmqumz48j5zmdxb

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
So, let's get this straight. You are not enlightened, are not established in Being, and therefore have not the slightest idea of what Maharishi was ultimately trying to accomplish. You, and that other ex-TM teacher, like to pick at the loose threads, while ignoring the blatant fact, that you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
So...we can forget about you addressing this issue, directly; your failure to experience what Maharishi attempted to teach you, and have you teach others. It doesn't bode well for you, dude. You continue your evasive moves, trying to somehow make this about me. But, it isn't about me. It is a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
it is an excellent mahavakya, but too much to not disassemble. The key is the identity. The more bound the identity, the less consciousness there is between the mind and the unified field (not sure what you mean here, by unified field, but infinite correlation will do). So, as the identity expa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, you are a complete bullshitter, Curtis. I ask you a simple question, four times, and you cannot give me a simple, or coherent, answer. And that would be simply, NO, I do not witness activity, 24x7. Instead I hear about your past. I don't care about your past, or as Barry calls it, Cafe

[FairfieldLife] Re: the deer this morning

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, these were quite tame, too, and about twice the size of those I have seen in the coastal range near SF. I am sad to hear about the culling, though I have heard it prevents getting a deer through the windshield, at 50 mph, which is often fatal for both the deer, and the driver. ---In Fair

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Curtis, if you were open to a normal explanation, and had already heard a lecture or two of Maharishi's, he always spoke in terms of the highest, first - so it sounds like a reasonable explanation to me - the furthest extent, of a currently unstable state of consciousness. Of course, if you,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am *not* kidding you - I was laughing so hard after reading this, my stomach hurt - especially the bits about outgrowing witnessing, it being for children and all, and witnessing is for losers!! Such boldness and imperiousness - you didn't outgrow it, dude -- IT FADED, it simply...faded, j

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: commenting on enlightenment, without a clue

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
wtf? ...more distracted nonsense from you... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : --In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Curtis, if you were open to a normal explanation, and had already heard a lecture or two of Maharishi's, he always spoke in terms of the highest, first - s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the deer this morning

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep, I love the critters, too, and miss my feral black cat, from the Bay Area, who I named, 'Sylvester' - I've never tried to pet, or feed him, but he has taken refuge in the gazebo on many cold nights, and we blink back and forth a lot. https://app.box.com/s/h9gs1dtoseplixrytx22 https://app

Re: [FairfieldLife] A nostalgia moment

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh, I see, Barry - You don't care for what I said, and don't care for me, either, but, just like Curtis, have very little spiritual experience; no full time witnessing, no fullness of silence in activity, no establishment in Being. Yet you speak as if you do, as if you are capable of evaluating

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the deer this morning

2014-05-16 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes. Like conscious jewels in his face. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yep, I love the critters, too, and miss my feral black cat, from the Bay Area, who I named, 'Sylvester' - I've never tried to pet, or feed him, but he has

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-17 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
LOL - This is Hilarious, Barry! HA! I wouldn't be so quick to denigrate witnessing, something you were lording over the rest of us, on FFL, just recently. If witnessing means so damned little to you, why does everyone on this forum, know how long you lasted, with your very limited witnessing, ma

[FairfieldLife] Please watch Barry and Curtis's misdirection, and personal attacks

2014-05-17 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
...after I pin-point their lack of spiritual experience. If Barry really felt secure with regard to what he experiences, and was actually, "beyond witnessing", whatever that is, would he really resort to flat out character assassination, going on for endless paragraphs, about things he jus

[FairfieldLife] Re: Please watch Barry and Curtis's misdirection, and personal attacks

2014-05-17 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It is irritating that this know nothing and his buddy, write pages and pages of opinions on here, based on NOTHING. What a phony. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : This is what degenerated and decadent Buddhism does to people, it makes them spiritually lazy and prone to superstit

[FairfieldLife] Re: The transition from BC to the state that comes after it

2014-05-17 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Rated VL, for very lame. You know what is the funniest part of all this, Barry? No one has disagreed with me, and no one has come to your defense. I'll bet those "reporters" you were talking to earlier, have a fr different opinion of you, now that they know how pathetically little you accomp

[FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on "witnessing"

2014-05-17 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, Barry is being unmistakably outed as the know nothing bullshitter he is, and has been, for all of these years, and boy does it sting. All I am asking for is a little humility from him, due to his lack of spiritual experience. That's it. This isn't about me. This is about being real, and suc

Re: [FairfieldLife] The transition from BC to the state that comes after it

2014-05-17 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, Barry, you clearly once WERE a TM teacher, many, many years ago. We are all bored to death with you trotting this out, especially since it is now clear that you left. simply because you didn't know what you were doing. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Because I was once a t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Why did TM *really* become so popular (for a while)?

2014-05-17 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Barry. How many words wasted here, this morning, instead of the simple ones we all want to hear - Please, please please admit to us here, that you have no foundation in Being, no established silence, and no witnessing. In other words, no foundation of Maharishi's teaching, and certainly no e

[FairfieldLife] It was good, while it lasted, huh?

2014-05-17 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep, Barry and Curtis had a lng run on here, holding forth on their days in the Movement, challenging damned near everything Maharishi said, and acting like the definitive experts on all things TM. Seems pretty laughable now. All those years of getting away with it, only to be clearly ex

Re: [FairfieldLife] It was good, while it lasted, huh?

2014-05-17 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Vote them out? No need for that - they will wither on the vine, naturally, though I am sure that if you want to, you can follow them to wherever they end up. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : jeez, Doc, I hope you're kidding! I happen to enjoy most posts from Curtis and some from

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: the deer this morning

2014-05-17 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I love cats, though mostly I am glad the adorable little bastards are the [small] size that they are - ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote : Yes. Like conscious jewels in his face. Good one. As I have mentioned before, I am not

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