Re: [FairfieldLife] Missing Pundits
They never got what Movement promised them especially payments, I remember one pundit, he was a good one, you could saw him on most broadcasts in the time of Global Country inauguration, he had family, he complained again and again about the money, finally he was paid in Raams which is useless and unrecognized currency.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Missing Pundits
Such things were happening in Holland too, I have spent some time working closly with indian comunity in Vlodrop, I knew very well their problems, and that article is not very far from truth. Dana 31. 1. 2014. 21:18 osoba Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com napisala je: Then why did Hagelin in his official communique to the faithful say that only 5% of them were missing? You idiot. On Fri, 1/31/14, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Missing Pundits To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 31, 2014, 6:57 PM On 1/31/2014 9:00 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote: Maybe you need to read the other comments posted here BEFORE you post redundant messages. This news story has already been discredited in a previous FFL post - there are NO missing pandit boys in Vedic City. How do you know this Ricky? Because who said so? I missed the first go-around on this so fill me in... According to my sources in Fairfield, there are no missing pandit boysup in Vedic City.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hello FFL -
hi :) 2012/6/9 Jason jedi_sp...@yahoo.com ** Are you the old 'akashya_108' or 'zoran kneta'? --- iranitea no_reply@... wrote: I think it's fair to introduce myself, well as you can probably see from my handle, I use an anonymous one. Irani tea or chai is a tea from Hyderabad, (I actually didn't know till I looked it up yesterday. But I know it from drinking, hehe.) I do this for several reasons, one is that I want to simply be free to say what I want to say, but personally respecting the choices of close friends and not hurting them. Another one is, that I do not want to be associated with certain topics, as has happened in the past. One third, not less important is, to not be put into a box; like he is pro-TM, he is anti-TM, he is a TBB etc. So, I also believe in reincarnation, not just in the usual sense of the word, but also on Internet forums. So I am not new here, some of you I know for a long time. To break through my policy a bit, I will tell you a bit of what I have done in the past. In one incarnation I created this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiKZjq0vTWg I think most of you have already seen it, it came out of a dialog, we had at the time, centering around something Buck brought up. It was already online before, with 3000 hits, and has now again over 400, you may just look at it again, to give it another boost. At a later incarnation I have discussed various topics with some people, trying to address typical TM-hook-ups, as the nature of transcendence, hazy vs. real, and the roots of TM in traditional japa, and why TM is not in any way more special. I have done so to understand the (con)text that surrounds TM and its own dynamic. In my previous incarnation, I was shocked to notice, how long term TM-ers, who profess to be experts on TM in many ways, are actually lacking any basic sense of discrimination. Something that usually comes only by having actual *life* experiences with people, which is something people have got who paid their dues in the movement, or any other spiritual surrounding for a longer time. Not having experienced oneself directly the dangers that come with extended meditations, like virtually going crazy, you would have known, if you had any experience in real life in similar situations, when for example friends are involved. There would be signs, red flags, one notices in people, and any person with a realistic, down to earth sense would know. This is actually the lack, when only discussing in Internet forums, and drawing most information from there, than from actual places and people, or simply watching teachers just giving a 3 days checking, without sitting through the various problems that may actually come up at these. So, in a way, I feel like a fresh white paper, no need of having to continue any old quibbles. OTOH, I am not afraid either, not of anybody here, I think I have a clear stand.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Nand Kishore
with Purusha group in Uttarkashi 2011/8/21 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net ** On Aug 21, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I just watched “David Wants to Fly” for the first time last night. I had heard about the “controversy among the rajas” that was part of the film, but no one had mentioned that Nand Kishore was the center of the controversy. He was the Indian guy who sat there next to Bevan and challenged Tony Nader’s right to take over the movement (until they shut off his mic). Kind of an interesting tidbit, don’t you think? Wonder where he is now? You should write a review from your POV, esp. given your inside knowledge.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Omnipresence
Chaitanyas supposed lineage comes through Madhvacharya. Madhva is Dvaita. Completely at the opposite spectrum of Nimbarki's Dvaitadvaita. YET, Chaitanya upon entering Vrindavan decides to adopt Dvaitadvaita - and simply adds his 'Achintya' infront of it. Whereas Nibarki's is Svabhavika dvaitadvaita or svabhavika bhedabheda (natural unity in diversity); Chaitanya said his is inconcievable unity in diversity. i.e., that the relationship of God, the soul and the universe was one of unity in diversity. In Nibark Sampradaya they hold that it is important to understand Vedantic principles in order for their devotions to be based on correct fact. It therefore appears that Chaitanya was heavily influenced by their style of Devotion that was prevalent in Vrindavan when he arrived there. Shri Keshava Kashmiri Bhattacharya (Digvijayi) was a 13th Century leader of the Nimbarka Sampradaya; the most learned and powerful Acharya they have had in the modern times. He composed a VAST commentary on the Brahmasutras, the Bhagavadgita, the 11 upanishads, the Shrimad Bhagavatam. His crowning glory was his mastery of Vaisnava Tantra Agamas. He composed the Kramadipika outlining how Vaisnavas could acquire powers for the use of protecting themselves from Muslim attackers in addition to the proper method of worship and japa etc. HOWEVER, the Chaitanya's followers claim that Keshava was defeated by Chaitanya when he was just 12 years old (even though Chaitanya was 1500's and Keshava lived in the 1200's).
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
It's disgusting what are you doing! I did not ask that you publicly comment my friends from my FB list here on FFL. I asked you that in case you know somebody you can check directly with them who I am... I kept your privacy here... which in turn you did not with my friends... in addition you abuse them to make yourself important... What a perverseness...! Alex, Rick... how you will call this abuse...? 2010/1/19 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote: I would never expose Naby's privacy. I wanted to make him aware that he can check who I am from people who we may know from Facebook since he has profile there as I am. I came a cross with his FB profile but I did not want to deal with that. I would not expose his identity for another reason... probably he would run away from FFL... still he is quite unique character... kind of ''precious gem'' who make this place more interesting and more piquant :) Since you asked I checked your Movement friends there; a french gay couple (not that there is anything wrong with that) and Lothar, long since married (not that there is anything wrong with that), not exactly what I would characterize as a very insider friend list, to say the least.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
The raja thing certainly happened after Tony got married. False.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
Read whole post next time. Think before act. The raja thing certainly happened after Tony got married. False.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
Someone with name authfriend posted... The raja thing certainly happened after Tony got married. ...trying to discus about issue but doesn't know the fact that Tony Nader become raja in 2000 so I replied that was wrong fact. 2010/1/19 TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com Zoran, can you include some kind of reference to the post you are replying to? Reading what's below (and your last post as well), there is no way that we can tell who or what you are replying to. Thanks in advance. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote: Read whole post next time. Think before act. The raja thing certainly happened after Tony got married. False.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
WRONG 2010/1/19 authfriend jst...@panix.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote: [I wrote:] The raja thing certainly happened after Tony got married. False. According to the Hagelin email, Tony got married eight years ago, which would mean sometime in 2002. The first public mention I'm aware of of the raja thing was in a press release from the Global Country of World Peace dated December 23, 2003 (posted on that date on alt.meditation.transcendental), announcing the Administrators Course to be held beginning January 12, 2004. From the press release: Conditions of Appointment 1. This training is for those who wish to be the permanent administrators of the Global Country of World Peace in their regions. Their status in society may be visualized as the administrator—or Raja (ruler)—of Raam Raj in their regions, so that the global purpose of the parental role of Raja Nader Raam is assisted by the regional administrators in the world. This lays out the field of training and specifies the performance of the trained administrators who will be crowned as Rajas—or administrators of their areas—to be the embodiment of perfect administration, which demonstrates the parental role of the cosmic administrator. They will be coronated as the Raja of Raam Raj or the President of the Peace Government in their area—they will represent the government of the universe, cosmic government, in their area. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation.transcendental/msg/1735fbb7b64dc292 http://tinyurl.com/ykdpflf I quoted this part because it explains what the rajas are supposed to be and do in a manner that suggests it's a brand-new concept for the TMO, including for those who might be interested in applying for it. This course is what I was referring to by the raja thing having happened after Tony's marriage. If you have contrary information, it would be nice if you'd spill it, Zoran, rather than simply issuing a flat denial.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
OK... I have misunderstand you... I was thinking you are referring the fact about when Tony become king but you are referring to the ''raja thing'' having in mind about when those courses started... First, I don't understand why is that fact important. Second, in 2002 I was in Vlodrop and I think it started smehow in that time. 2010/1/19 authfriend jst...@panix.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote: [I wrote:] The raja thing certainly happened after Tony got married. False. According to the Hagelin email, Tony got married eight years ago, which would mean sometime in 2002. The first public mention I'm aware of of the raja thing was in a press release from the Global Country of World Peace dated December 23, 2003 (posted on that date on alt.meditation.transcendental), announcing the Administrators Course to be held beginning January 12, 2004. From the press release: Conditions of Appointment 1. This training is for those who wish to be the permanent administrators of the Global Country of World Peace in their regions. Their status in society may be visualized as the administrator—or Raja (ruler)—of Raam Raj in their regions, so that the global purpose of the parental role of Raja Nader Raam is assisted by the regional administrators in the world. This lays out the field of training and specifies the performance of the trained administrators who will be crowned as Rajas—or administrators of their areas—to be the embodiment of perfect administration, which demonstrates the parental role of the cosmic administrator. They will be coronated as the Raja of Raam Raj or the President of the Peace Government in their area—they will represent the government of the universe, cosmic government, in their area. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.meditation.transcendental/msg/1735fbb7b64dc292 http://tinyurl.com/ykdpflf I quoted this part because it explains what the rajas are supposed to be and do in a manner that suggests it's a brand-new concept for the TMO, including for those who might be interested in applying for it. This course is what I was referring to by the raja thing having happened after Tony's marriage. If you have contrary information, it would be nice if you'd spill it, Zoran, rather than simply issuing a flat denial.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
In my first post I was referring to the movement structure before ''raja thing'' in which MMY put the administrators who were single or married couples whom he suggested not to have children. He was always in favor for single style of life without worldly responsibilities. I also know situations after the ''raja thing'' in which MMY asked people to join him and to leave wife and children. That was kind of ''Guru is requsting desciple to leave the world and surrender to him'' attitude from MMY side. Everybody who was in that time around MMY was aware of that fact. Having that in mind it is HARD to accept that MMY suddenly allowed Tony to have children secretly and that MMY was participating in that secrecy also. No thanks, I can't believe in that. Even if you leave that a side... look what he did to the Purushas. MMY was convincig them that Tony is the ''ONE OF THEM''. They accepted Tony as their leader. Because I was in Vlodrop in 2002 I knew the things which Tony was doing. I mentioned those things to my friend who is in Purusha. He told me if that was true he would leave the movement. These days I can't get him online :( 2010/1/19 authfriend jst...@panix.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote: OK... I have misunderstand you... I was thinking you are referring the fact about when Tony become king but you are referring to the ''raja thing'' having in mind about when those courses started... Right. I assumed that was what Curtis meant (raja thing was his phrase), but I could be wrong. At any rate, Curtis didn't mean when Tony became king; he was talking about the regional raja administrators. First, I don't understand why is that fact important. Here's what Curtis said: I don't know the timeline but it always seemed to me that the whole raja thing came out of the blue. Maybe it was a way for Maharishi to create a householder leadership to accommodate the fact that he had no dedicated single guy to hand the movement over to. As I said in response, I don't think it came out of the blue any more than any of MMY's other ideas. Both Tony's kingship and the rajas were pretty clearly a matter of setting up a structure that would keep the movement together after MMY died, something he must have been thinking about for some time. Second, in 2002 I was in Vlodrop and I think it started smehow in that time. You could well be right, but it doesn't seem to have been publicly announced until the end of 2003.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
On the other hand, we also have MMY saying, at least according to Hagelin, that a king should have a family to support him. Do you think Hagelin just made that up? It's not that hard to make a distinction between what works best for a king and what works best for his worker bees and monks, I should think. Doesn't matter what Hagelin said. MMY NEVER, EVER indicated such thing may happen in future. For me is important fact that Tony has only MMY from a grave to approve his words. 2010/1/19 authfriend jst...@panix.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote: In my first post I was referring to the movement structure before ''raja thing'' in which MMY put the administrators who were single or married couples whom he suggested not to have children. He was always in favor for single style of life without worldly responsibilities. I also know situations after the ''raja thing'' in which MMY asked people to join him and to leave wife and children. That was kind of ''Guru is requsting desciple to leave the world and surrender to him'' attitude from MMY side. On the other hand, we also have MMY saying, at least according to Hagelin, that a king should have a family to support him. Do you think Hagelin just made that up? It's not that hard to make a distinction between what works best for a king and what works best for his worker bees and monks, I should think. Everybody who was in that time around MMY was aware of that fact. Having that in mind it is HARD to accept that MMY suddenly allowed Tony to have children secretly and that MMY was participating in that secrecy also. No thanks, I can't believe in that. So what *do* you think really happened? MMY couldn't have been unaware of Tony's marriage, could he? Seems to me a lot depends on whether Tony had the stones to tell MMY he was going to get married, and that if MMY tried to stop him, he'd step down as king and MMY's successor. He'd have had MMY over a barrel after all the hoohah of his coronation. It would have looked really bad if Tony had quit and MMY had to find another king and go through it all again. If Tony did stand up to MMY and insist on getting married and having kids, it would make sense for MMY to have said, OK, but only if you keep it quiet until after I'm gone.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
I wasn't work in kitchen on a Prep Purusha even I would like sometimes... that would be a kind of relaxation... You a constantly saying lies about who I am... I am on Facebook as you are. So you can easily check with people whom may we both know. 2010/1/19 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote: snip I also know situations after the ''raja thing'' in which MMY asked people to join him and to leave wife and children. Highly unlikely, I've never heard such a thing. Referance please ! But oh, I forgot it's a rumour you heard while working in the kitchen. That was kind of ''Guru is requsting desciple to leave the world and surrender to him'' attitude from MMY side. Utter nonsense. Everybody who was in that time around MMY And you supposedly where around MMY ? May I remind you that there was somehow a distance from the kitchen to the Suite - if you understand what I mean. was aware of that fact. I can mention that I was on Purusha until 1994 and never ever heard such nonsense. snip Even if you leave that a side... look what he did to the Purushas. MMY was convincig them that Tony is the ''ONE OF THEM''. Never heard this, when ? Referances please ! They accepted Tony as their leader. Is that so ? When is that supposed to have happened ? Because I was in Vlodrop in 2002 I knew the things which Tony was doing. Who told you, the dishwasher ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
What was your question? It's hard to hear here in kitchen! 2010/1/19 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote: I wasn't work in kitchen on a Prep Purusha even I would like sometimes... that would be a kind of relaxation... You a constantly saying lies about who I am... I am on Facebook as you are. So you can easily check with people whom may we both know. Why don't you answer the questions I posted to your (insane) utterings instead ? 2010/1/19 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comno_reply%40yahoogroups.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife% 40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zoran@ wrote: snip I also know situations after the ''raja thing'' in which MMY asked people to join him and to leave wife and children. Highly unlikely, I've never heard such a thing. Referance please ! But oh, I forgot it's a rumour you heard while working in the kitchen. That was kind of ''Guru is requsting desciple to leave the world and surrender to him'' attitude from MMY side. Utter nonsense. Everybody who was in that time around MMY And you supposedly where around MMY ? May I remind you that there was somehow a distance from the kitchen to the Suite - if you understand what I mean. was aware of that fact. I can mention that I was on Purusha until 1994 and never ever heard such nonsense. snip Even if you leave that a side... look what he did to the Purushas. MMY was convincig them that Tony is the ''ONE OF THEM''. Never heard this, when ? Referances please ! They accepted Tony as their leader. Is that so ? When is that supposed to have happened ? Because I was in Vlodrop in 2002 I knew the things which Tony was doing. Who told you, the dishwasher ?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
I would never expose Naby's privacy. I wanted to make him aware that he can check who I am from people who we may know from Facebook since he has profile there as I am. I came a cross with his FB profile but I did not want to deal with that. I would not expose his identity for another reason... probably he would run away from FFL... still he is quite unique character... kind of ''precious gem'' who make this place more interesting and more piquant :) 2010/1/19 TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zoran@ wrote: I wasn't work in kitchen on a Prep Purusha even I would like sometimes...that would be a kind of relaxation... You a constantly saying lies about who I am... I am on Facebook as you are. So you can easily check with people whom may we both know. Hey Zoran, as you so rightly point out, you are posting using your own name and Nabby is not. Since you seem to know who he is, tell me his Facebook name and I'll look him up and post the information here for everyone. Please don't. Part 15 of the FFL guidelines: 15) Keep in mind that many FFL members desire to maintain anonymity. If you happen to know a member's real name, perhaps because that member has mentioned it in a post or two, or to you privately, please refer to that member only by their pseudonym. I was just yanking Nabby's chain, Alex. I don't think, based on what he has said so far, that Zoran really knows who Nabby is. I just wanted Nabby to experience a moment of panic when he *thought* he did. This is just my way of pointing out that since this whole snit hit the fan, as far as I can tell only two people on this forum have *gone out of their way* to call the critics names and attempt to undermine their credibility, along with formulating mind-bogglingly inane excuses to absolve Maharishi of any culpability in this fiasco. I thought it would be fun for at least one of those two people to have a moment of panic when the curtain was pulled back and the person trying to pass him- or herself off as the Wizard Of Oz was revealed to be rather ordinary, and pathetic.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
No... just about alligator wanted to breakfast Adi Shankara... 2010/1/19 WillyTex willy...@yahoo.com Zoran Krneta wrote: What was your question? It's hard to hear here in kitchen! Have you heard any rumors about the Maharishi having girlfriends when he lived down in Spain? Or, that he murdered his guru, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati. What's up with that?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
Thanks Shemp... I am aware of that now... but 10 years ago wasn't... 2010/1/18 ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@netscape.net Ha ha ha. Joke's on you, Zoran. Yet another suckling vampire who tried to transform the TM Movement into some sort of Guru/disciple relationship sort of thing. Look, cult person, TM has nothing to do with Purusha, gurus, kings, or celibacy. That's a lifestyle that you did or didn't choose for yourself. If you were listening to some guru or his proxy and wanted to do something in Holland, that's your problem. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote: *Tony Nader is liar. That's now evident.* Everyone who was with MMY last 10-20 years was aware about the fact that he was strongly encouraging people to join him in organization but to remain as a single or if they were married couple then MMY did not accept them to join with children. There were very rare exceptions. There are still now a lot of couples in organization who accept that and they drop off the posibility to became normal families. The same thing happened to us... me and my wife wanted to join but they told us that MMY will not accept us if we want to have children. How Tony Nader can look at the faces of those people and say such thing? How he can lie to people who decided to stay issueles in order to serve their Guru but the same Guru aproved him from the grave that he can have children? Who can confirm that MMY gave him blessing for that? Nobody.. because that never happened. I was in Vlodrop in '92 when Nader all of the sudden was pulled back by MMY from Japan. There was some bad rumor going in the back that he was entertaining someones wife. Strange things were happening then with him and his French secretary. Probably MMY was aware of Nader's affairs but for sure he was asking him to drop off such behavior as he was doing in the same way in similar situations during the past. I think many of you can confirm that. How many times MMY said Tony is purusha and that his domain is from silence? Did he mentioned during his life that Tony will have family? Of course not and that is why Tony Nader is liar. Nothing will stay the same... you will not wait much time until Girish Varma attack his position. Hallo Mr. Konhaus... wake up... your dream ended... drink your sugar free cup of coffee and fuck off...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja with children is a shock?
Anyway... I can confirm that Schiffgins has ''close male friend'' but for me that it's not issue here. It's about ''PEOPLE TELLING LIES'' I don't care if Nader would have 100 wives and 1000 children. It's about credibility. MMY NEVER MENTIONED that Nader is going to be married... Ask guys on Purusha what was told to them This is story about dirty politics and power... that has nothing to do with spirituality whatsoever... period... who likes can folow... 2010/1/18 TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.com Sorry...it might have been shukra who mentioned Raja Schiffgen's close male friend. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@ wrote: People here accept a gay Raja easily but Maharaja with children is a shock? He is meant to be the leader of the movement for householders so of course what do you think the Vedic tradition is? It would be a tragedy for a Maharaja to have no wife and child. Tragedy no, but the fact is that the majority of the Masters in our Holy Tradition were householders. Technical question for Nablus: If, as Zoran indicates, Raja Schiffgens has a close male friend and they live together, does that make him a householder? Curious minds want to know... :-)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja with children is a shock?
It's about ''PEOPLE TELLING LIES'' Again; what lies ? Oh... I apologize for calling Mr. Nader a liar... he was just telling us ''unrevealed secret truth known only to him and MMY and which nobody can confirm''. How does people call such arguments in your country? Are they using them in court cases and judges are accepting them as valid one. Let me ask you something: Do you know how much more ''unrevealed secret truth's known only to Tony and MMY and which nobody can confirm'' exists and Tony will tell us them in the future? What is the bottom line of such ''unrevealed secret truth's known only to Tony and MMY and which nobody can confirm'' which your intelligence and common sense will accept? Yes, that would be interesting. I'm sure Zorak, who from what I understand was a short while on Prep-Purusha working in the kitchen knows everything about Maharishis instructions not only to Purusha but also to the Rajas and the Couples ! I am standing here on FFL with my full name openly expresing my thinking which is not your case. I don't need to explain you who I was and what I was doing in movement... anyway you can check it's not so difficult...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
If we assume that information is true and having in mind whole situation in Vlodrop known from the people who were there last 10 - 15 years, then: *This would be a fraud and big lie:* Maharishi had requested him to, for the children's sake, maintain the privacy of his family until the oldest was old enough to begin school. Maharishi had told him that, in the tradition of rulership, having the support of a Royal Family brought stability and strength to the Kingdom. *and this is wishfull thinking because nothing will remain the same...* Of course, as was obvious to all--and as Maharaja himself emphasized--nothing has changed, or would change, in his Administration, and his continued one-pointed focus on the fulfillment of Maharishi's global legacy: 2010/1/17 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto: fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *metoostill *Sent:* Saturday, January 16, 2010 6:18 PM *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters If it turns out to be true, I would say it is 50/50 at best that MMY ever knew about it at all. Are you kidding? Tony lived in MMY's house for many of the final years of his life. He didn't sneeze without MMY knowing it. The whole family may have been living there. If they were living off-site, Tony wouldn't have been able to come and go without MMY's knowledge.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
I can confirm from my reliable sources from Vlodrop that story is true.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
*Tony Nader is liar. That's now evident.* Everyone who was with MMY last 10-20 years was aware about the fact that he was strongly encouraging people to join him in organization but to remain as a single or if they were married couple then MMY did not accept them to join with children. There were very rare exceptions. There are still now a lot of couples in organization who accept that and they drop off the posibility to became normal families. The same thing happened to us... me and my wife wanted to join but they told us that MMY will not accept us if we want to have children. How Tony Nader can look at the faces of those people and say such thing? How he can lie to people who decided to stay issueles in order to serve their Guru but the same Guru aproved him from the grave that he can have children? Who can confirm that MMY gave him blessing for that? Nobody.. because that never happened. I was in Vlodrop in '92 when Nader all of the sudden was pulled back by MMY from Japan. There was some bad rumor going in the back that he was entertaining someones wife. Strange things were happening then with him and his French secretary. Probably MMY was aware of Nader's affairs but for sure he was asking him to drop off such behavior as he was doing in the same way in similar situations during the past. I think many of you can confirm that. How many times MMY said Tony is purusha and that his domain is from silence? Did he mentioned during his life that Tony will have family? Of course not and that is why Tony Nader is liar. Nothing will stay the same... you will not wait much time until Girish Varma attack his position. Hallo Mr. Konhaus... wake up... your dream ended... drink your sugar free cup of coffee and fuck off...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters
*Tony Nader is liar. That's now evident.* Everyone who was with MMY last 10-20 years was aware about the fact that he was strongly encouraging people to join him in organization but to remain as a single or if they were married couple then MMY did not accept them to join with children. There were very rare exceptions. There are still now a lot of couples in organization who accept that and they drop off the posibility to became normal families. The same thing happened to us... me and my wife wanted to join but they told us that MMY will not accept us if we want to have children. How Tony Nader can look at the faces of those people and say such thing? How he can lie to people who decided to stay issueles in order to serve their Guru but the same Guru aproved him from the grave that he can have children? Who can confirm that MMY gave him blessing for that? Nobody.. because that never happened. I was in Vlodrop in '92 when Nader all of the sudden was pulled back by MMY from Japan. There was some bad rumor going in the back that he was entertaining someones wife. Strange things were happening then with him and his French secretary. Probably MMY was aware of Nader's affairs but for sure he was asking him to drop off such behavior as he was doing in the same way in similar situations during the past. I think many of you can confirm that. How many times MMY said Tony is purusha and that his domain is from silence? Did he mentioned during his life that Tony will have family? Of course not and that is why Tony Nader is liar. Nothing will stay the same... you will not wait much time until Girish Varma attack his position. Hallo Mr. Konhaus... wake up... your dream ended... drink your sugar free cup of coffee and fuck off...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Walking on Water as a Siddhi
Aboriginal folklore and fairytales''... http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/news/3225/aboriginal-dreaming-story-leads-meteorite-crater http://www.universetoday.com/2009/12/30/dreamtime-meteor-impact-found-with-google-earth-2/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Gomorra -- the gnarliest crime family movie ever made
Yes, after that movie i didn't feel good for 2-3 days. Movie is actually good... but what it describes is horrible. 2009/12/30 PaliGap compost...@yahoo.co.uk --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_re...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@ wrote: [snip] Gomorra is shot in the slums of Naples, in an almost documentary fashion. It chronicles five stories that are unrelated except that they (of necessity) interface with the Camorra crime family that basically runs things in that area of Italy. Slum life is gloomy in itself; there ain't no Slumdog Millionaire fantasies here. And it's pretty obvious that your chance of *surviving* a life in the slums are not very high, no matter who you are. The film is RUTHLESS. It doesn't glorify the actions of the crime family, it doesn't prettify them, and it doesn't portray them as human, just misunderstood the way that American filmmakers tend to. [/snip] How does it compare to The Wire? The Wire is a Disney series by comparison. Seriously. I think all The Wire's plaudits are very well-deserved. That too did not prettify. It had no simplistic goodies and baddies. You could say that yes, it did portray everyone as human, just misunderstood in the sense that everybody is all caught up in a web of circumstance and fate (karma). And everyone is just trying to move themselves along as best they are able to given what they *see* from their perspective. Take for example Stringer Bell - a Shakespearean character or what! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stringer_Bell He is implicated in many wicked, bad things. But he's also trying desperately to move out of the dark and into the light. Tragically (or is it justice?) his past misdeeds track him down as surely as Captain Hook is pursued inexorably to his doom by the ticking crocodile. That's why it's a Disney series. There is no *option* to move out of the dark in Scampia. And in The Wire there is? Plenty folks try, but no one succeeds as I recall. * Stringer Bell? Murdered * D'Angelo Barksdale? Gets conscience = murdered * Frank Sobotka? Tries to protect his family = murdered * Howard Bunny Colvin? Tries to fix the city = fatal career move etc etc There must be some kinda way outta here, I can't get no relief There is no *possibility* of being good. The film does not show even a single one of the people who *run* the Camorra clan. Those people sit down to expensive dinners with other rich people around the world and are, in fact, the biggest investors in rebuilding the World Trade Center. Their profits exceed $250 *billion* yearly. But they're not in the movie. Only their footsoldiers are. And for them there is no *possibility* of consider- ing a life other than the one they were born into. There is not even any payoff -- the footsoldiers live in the same squalor as their neighbors. Two examples of excep- tions to this lack of options are presented in the film -- a master tailor who decides to become a truck driver rather than continue to participate in the Camorra- run knockoff designer wear business, and a henchman who walks away rather than continue to participate in the toxic waste scam. The film ends with them walking away. In the book from which the film was made -- all carefully researched and documented -- both characters were killed when they attempted this. One of the young characters, who has memorized the dia- logue from Brian DePalma's Scarface and acts it out at one point thinks about the payoff of one of his latest harebrained schemes. If he pulls it off, he says, he may live to see 30. He doesn't. This is a film about the *grunts* -- the people on the bottom rung of the Camorra organization, and bystanders who get caught in the crossfire. The Wire is prettified. The Wire is more a fantasy by comparison to Gomorra than Peter Pan is. Apparently the series was based on many real characters (some of whom appear in the series). And written and created by guys who had walked the walk. We are not selling hope, or audience gratification, or cheap victories with this show. The Wire is making an argument about what institutions—bureaucracies, criminal enterprises, the cultures of addiction, raw capitalism even—do to individuals. It is not designed purely as an entertainment. It is, I'm afraid, a somewhat angry show. The writers strive to create a realistic vision of an American city based on their own experiences. Central to this aim is the creation of truthful characters. Simon has stated that most of them are composites of real-life Baltimore figures. The show often casts non-professional actors in minor roles, distinguishing itself from other television series by
Re: [FairfieldLife] AVATAR
now i am at home in Croatia... 2009/12/23 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net On Dec 22, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Zoran Krneta wrote: watched Avatar... disapointed... looks like New Age John Wayne in psyihodelic environment... Aren't you in India Zoran? Where did you see it at?
Re: [FairfieldLife] AVATAR
watched Avatar... disapointed... looks like New Age John Wayne in psyihodelic environment...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WARNING - TM mantra information!
I did not mentioned bijas... I referred your question to the fact that in Upanishads the principle about nick names is described. So stick to the subject Willy! 2009/12/14 WillyTex willy...@yahoo.com But, how did the Gods get the 'nick-names'? Zoran Krneta wrote: So you did not read Upanishads! Are there any bija mantras mentioned in any of the major Upanishads? I think not, Zoran. The bija mantras are mentioned in the Tantras, which came much later during the Gupta Age in India. There are no bijas in the Rig Veda or in any of the major Upanishads. The alphabet wasn't used in India until the time of the Ashokan Pillars, (circa 200 BC). So, assuming that the bijas were based on the letters of the alphabet, their use would be after Pannini.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WARNING - TM mantra information!
The principles of the nick-names and the bija mantras are described in the Tantras, Zoran, not in the Upanishads. So you did not read Upanishads carefully Willy. You don't know where in the Upanishads is the part of the text which brings out principle that Gods are pleased to be called indirectly. That is very simple to admit rather then lecturing me about something which I did not ask you. Please stick to the subject Willy!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WARNING - TM mantra information!
But, how did the Gods get the 'nick-names'? Did someone make them up or what? Maybe the Gods don't like being addressed by their real names, so they told the Rishis to call them by other, shorter names. But, who was the first person to call a God by his nick-name? So you did not read Upanishads!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'World's Biggest Animal Sacrifice' Begins
I have gone through many purana texts... I did not find any part in it mentioning human sacrifices... It is true that in India still you can find human sacrifices but they belong to tantric tradition not to vedic one... 2009/11/27 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net On Nov 27, 2009, at 10:02 AM, ShempMcGurk wrote: Thanks for the info, Vaj, I had no idea. I wonder whether human sacrifice is/was being done at all? Probably, but in only in very rare, isolated instances and outside any major institution. Consider this: India has child abduction cases just like any other country, they have a high population that is impossible to police and religious doctrines, while on the fringe, which do support live sacrifice. Of course, I am letting my imagination get the better of me and it's probably as a result of that second Indiana Jones movie from back in the '80s (the one that starred Kate Capshaw and the little Chinese kid) in which human sacrifice was being performed by what was most certainly Vedic inspired characters. But I do wonder... Do the Vedas or any related Vedic books have anything on human sacrifice? Yes, they describe human sacrifice, purusha-medha ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purushamedha). India also, till very recently, had the institution of large mock battles, in which people were often killed and the participants left covered in blood.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'World's Biggest Animal Sacrifice' Begins
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,501020729-322673,00.html http://www.theisticsatanism.com/asp/hs.html 2009/11/27 ShempMcGurk shempmcg...@netscape.net --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote: [snip] It is true that in India still you can find human sacrifices but they belong to tantric tradition not to vedic one... [snip] Oh, REALLY Do tell...
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Jerry's back (was Re: Interesting MUM Developments)
bitterness and arrogance is also included in your proper understanding of the word advanced...? 2009/11/2 Premanand premanandp...@yahoo.co.uk Doug, whilst I accept that the use of 'advanced' is normal within the TMorg, I question that there is anything 'advanced' about advanced meetings? In fact my most profound insights into reality and philosophy came directly from my first faltering attempts to understand how to meditate, in the first meditation session I attended. Nothing, including so-called 'advanced' meetings have ever furthered that experience. I suggest that in fact the word 'advanced' contradicts the meaning of having a pathless path. Perhaps the word 'advanced' is just another clue that maybe he movement does not understand its own doctrines very fully. Oh but I guess that 'advanced' is not what they mean really, what they mean is that the meeting is just for those who have been meditating for quite a while, and calling the meeting 'advanced' makes them feel special. Hey ho. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, jpgillam jpgillam@ wrote: Doug Hamilton wrote: Bring back Jerry Jarvis? Rick Archer wrote: He's back. He'll be giving a lecture at the Santa Monica library sometime soon. Last Sunday Jerry spoke in Lancaster, Massachusetts, with John Hagelin. Observable shift in underlying TM-movement plate tectonics Real nice advanced lecture last nite up at the Peace Palace. Short group meditation, a Maharishi lecture tape from Mallorca era about going from ignorance to enlightenment. Was a good discernment about it. Talk after the tape by Peter Wallace and Wally Devasier, both of whom traveled extensively with Maharishi through the old days. Meeting opened mc'ed, meditation led by a newer younger TM teacher. About 40 people in attendance. Mostly (foreign) university students and several old-time meditators from the FF meditating community sitting in with it. Peter W. and Wally D. in fun form as very good experienced meditation teachers, even handling prickly pointed intellectual question from some un-happy person about the tape. -D in FF
Re: [FairfieldLife] Rajas
most of them communicate through their secretaries... so rajas wont answer... you will get answer like life is bliss and if you persist probably you are stressed person and need checking... or you don't live in proper vastu with eastern entrance... so before writing have a house with proper entrance and get checking...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions about mantra shakti and saying mantras out loud
There is no harm in saying mantra loudly but rather then listenng a h-h theories on this form go and do the checking of your meditation. 2009/8/10 Damjan Jovanovic dj...@yahoo.com Hi I learned TM at the age of 10, and found it to be one of the most wonderful and profound things I've ever experienced. However only 2-3 years later, my mantra completely stopped working, and hasn't worked since (for the 13-14 years till present day). The only thing I did wrong, according to what I was told during the course, was to say my mantra out loud a few times (ok maybe more than just a few), mostly by accident. My TM teacher told me it didn't really matter, but if that didn't do it, what did? After much searching, on this forum I found the (Tantric?) idea that what makes mantras work is the shakti they receive during initiation. Is this really the case? I really want to get back into TM. Will getting initiated for the second time work for me? What else can recharge a mantra with shakti? And where does one find out more about this shakti? Please help. I know this probably isn't the right forum to ask most of this but I haven't found any better one yet (know any?). Thank you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions about mantra shakti and saying mantras out loud
That's really a great question Damjan, however, there is NO evidence what so ever, to suggest that TM is a *diksha* initiation where the Guru (MMY is NOT a guru per se) charges the mantra with his shakti or enlightenment. There are a lot of examples in Indian spiritual traditions where disciples alone were taken all kind of initiations in front of Guru's picture giving wow.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Maharishi's translation of Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 7, Verse 20
Please if someone have manuscript of that chapter can it compare? Thanks
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
Everything has meaning, Zoran, but bija mantras have no semantic meaning. Richard, does the word usa have semantic meanining? Every word have sound value dosen't matter it sounds meaningless or not. If you listen or read Rig Ved texts you will get the result doesn't matter you understand it or not. But Rig Ved text HAVE meaning. Sound power of mantra comes from mantra itself whether you understand it or not whether it seems to have or not semanticmeaning.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
Richard, you did not answer my question: Does the word USA have semantic meaning?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
There are Vedic mantras and Tantric mantras... Vedic procedures and Tantric procedures. Tantric means quickly, directly without long procedures and texts. Vedic mantras are Vedic texts used in Vedic procedures of worship. Tantric bija mantra is short, condensed esence of vedic mantras... like... you can worship Vishnu through Purusha sukta from Rig Ved and related procedure or you can worship Vishnu through Tantric procedure with single bija mantra. Result will be the same. In these days there are no pure Vedic or Tantric procedures. They are mixed. But Vedic mantra has meaning as Tantric mantra. If somebody says different then he did not go deeply in investigation of Vedic and Tantric texts and procedures. Every single sound in Universe has meaning. There are no meaningles sounds.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
Zoran this may be the case in general in regards to older traditions Yes, I was simplifying and made as general example. but there are sages and yogis in the Buddhist tradition (and I'm sure in the inner tantras of Hinduism as well) who are revealing/seeing new tantras/cycles. Can be... that's vast area of knowledge...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
Woodroffe and Eliade both say unequivocally that the mantras have absolutely no semantic meaning... I don't know who Mr. Woodroffe and Eliade are, but Mr. Jaimini in Mimansa said that there were a lot of words in Rig Veda which appeared only there and only once and Mr. Jaimini did not know their meaning at all, as he admitted. So, to come to the true meaning of those words he suggested krama method of analysis of Rig Ved new coined words. That is the the method in which you divide words in to the syllables and letters and from meaning which are attributed to them you can conclude true meaning of those words. In this way he suggested how the words were originally created.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
om apavitrah pavitro va sarvavastham gato 'pi va yah smaret pundarikaksham sa bahyabhyantarah sucih sri vishnu sri vishnu sri vishnu that part is introduction in every puja that belongs to nityakarm...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Narayana Kavach Mantra in TM Initiation Puja
Bija mantras cannot be translated into English because bija mantras are not words with semantic meaning. They don't have semantic meaning like usual words. Each letter in bija mantra has a meaning which you can translate. Guru who gives you a mantra should know that meaning of each letter. So you can translate it into English but it is long, that's reason why bija mantras are seed mantras because they have meaning in seed form within it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Drug-Dependent Pundits Riot
You idiot, children don't smoke betel leaves, they chew them. So now you come to know that Indian pundits chewing something... but you don't know what they are chewing... maybe nuts ha... Tobacco is a relatively new ingredient in the mix, however, the chewing of Paan dates back to the Harappan empire. Hahahaha... so they started to import it from Virginia...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Drug-Dependent Pundits Riot
So most of people in Vedic City dont know habits of Indian pundits?!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Drug-Dependent Pundits Riot
This is outrageous - twelve year old children don't smoke betel leaves! So you don't know present habits of Indian pundits? But you are learned abut their history which took place 5.000 years ago?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cause of obesity in the tmorg
The largest sect of Adwaita Vedantins in India ascribe to the Sri Vidya doctrine. I dont know why some people here are relating Shri Vidya with Shankara and Advaita Vedanta ONLY. Acharyas like Ramunuja and Nimbark also had Shri Vidya incorporated in their teachings... mantras too. And Ramunuja and Nimbark were proponents of different type of Vedanta like Visisht Advaita and Dwitadvaita.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cause of obesity in the tmorg
This kind of speech is supported by practice of all angas of Yoga? 2009/7/11 Robert babajii...@yahoo.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: Since most TM'ers, especially in the tmorg, have accepted TM in lieu of Religion they Nothing can compare to formalized Religion to provide moral,blah, blah, blah... And get a life, you know I am the only authority on this subject, blah, blah, blah... (snip) Having a woman wear a Burka, is a disgrace to all of mankind, as far as I'm concerned... Now, as far as your 'Idolizing of Religious Dogma, let me say this, 'Fuck your Religion!' Hitler had a religion, also, and had the young children, brainwashed in the same way, as you suggest, by the same moral authority, that says, 'The Jews Killed Christ'...when we all know, that is a 'Damn Lie'... Pilot and Rome, killed Jesus, and continue to kill him everyday, with their F'ing Roman Christian Values of Lucifer...! Just like the 'Pool Club', in Huntington Valley, Pennsylvania... This is what it was like in Nazi Times...what a shame! Backward damn idiots, they should close the F'ing place down... r.g.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Cause of obesity in the tmorg
BilyG, I agree with you but MMY was more supportive towards Vedanta than Yoga, especially knowing that Shankara lineage rejected Yoga as philospohy and practice... In India, if you ask some Swamis about Yoga usually they don't know nothing about that and they will say is good for health because of stretching etc. :) They will advocate Vedanta... Now, what kind of Vedanta...?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Cause of obesity in the tmorg
Shankara rejected Yoga philosophy in his commentaries on Brahma Sutras.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Cause of obesity in the tmorg
Sankara philosophy has some logical inconsistencies in itself and that is the reason why Shankara lineage is full of controversial teachings. Take SBS example. MMY took those aspects of Patanjali Yoga which were supportive to Vedanta view but he did not claimed he was vedantin.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Cause of obesity in the tmorg
I am referring to his philosophy not practice.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fw: Maharishi's commentary on Chapter 7 of the Bhagavad-Gita
He certainly edited it in every detail personally spending months on this glorious book. ………. Reading commentaries of chapters 8 and 9 I found that they are not on the same quality level as commentaries of chapters 1-6. It seems that author spent much more time editing them in every detail. Chapters 8 and 9 looks like manuscripts which are not finalized. I think that’s reason why MMY never gave them out. So this opens at lest 2 questions: Did somebody finalize them? and if not… Why somebody release them knowing they were never finalized by author?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Post Count Meditator Status
yes 1 Zoran Krneta krneta.zoran@ 2009/6/10 dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony...@yahoo.com outing people as meditators? No, you misinterpret this. No, these are not outings in the sense of that word the way some might use it. Is simply a compiling in to a status list of those admitted meditator FFL'ers. Those who have published thus here as writers saying publicly that they are practicing meditators. Consequently, by what was publicly published before the list is known. For instance, there are some few noteworthy real names of folks we all have known in the past as meditators who have not confirmed in recent memory that they are still meditate; hence, they simply have not been upgraded as `yes'=meditator yet in the listing. Of course they may be meditators still or they may be, as Nabby would point out, quitters. Can't say. Have a nice day. I'm on now the Raja program for meditation this morning. Jai Guru Dev, -D in FF this survey is creepy. Naw, practically I find knowing the meditator status of writers here to be quite useful. You know, it helps in setting the spam filter accordingly. On the one hand, the many thoughtful postings of FFL meditators do come right through. On the other hand if a non-meditator might write something useful, when that happens it often subsequently will get picked up by some real meditators of FFL and occasionally that might become a thread worthwhile to check out. Hence it all very innocently, naturally and simply works a very effective editing of the list. hey, the spam filter usually takes care of most all that Judy/Barry personal stuff sending it directly over to spam delete file. Is highly effective that way. In the end it all does work great towards a higher quality list in simply knowing better where people are honestly coming from. A simple Meditator non-meditator sorting that weights the writing on FFL. Is that so threatening? Are you a meditator? Om, it's a pretty simple question. Jai Guru Dev, -Doug in FF posting status. Posters: 99 `Yes' = meditators Fairfield Life Post Counter, Meditator Status: 50 authfriend jstein@ `Yes' 50 TurquoiseB no_re...@yahoogroups.comno_reply%40yahoogroups.com `Yes' 45 Vaj vajradhatu@ `Yes' 44 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comno_reply%40yahoogroups.com 32 grate.swan no_re...@yahoogroups.comno_reply%40yahoogroups.com `Yes' 31 Bhairitu noozguru@ 29 sparaig LEnglish5@ 27 ruthsimplicity no_re...@yahoogroups.comno_reply%40yahoogroups.com 27 Richard J. Williams willytex@ `yes' 24 Robert babajii_99@ 22 off_world_beings no_re...@yahoogroups.comno_reply%40yahoogroups.com `Yes' 22 dhamiltony2k5 dhamiltony2k5@ 21 enlightened_dawn11 no_re...@yahoogroups.comno_reply%40yahoogroups.com `Yes' 20 Rick Archer rick@ `Yes' 20 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.comno_reply%40yahoogroups.com 18 do.rflex do.rflex@ 17 bob_brigante no_re...@yahoogroups.comno_reply%40yahoogroups.com 16 Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ `Yes' 15 BillyG. wgm4u@ 13 Richard M compost1uk@ `Yes' 12 shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 'Yes' 10 satvadude108 no_re...@yahoogroups.comno_reply%40yahoogroups.com `Yes' 10 raunchydog raunchydog@ 10 lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ 9 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.comno_reply%40yahoogroups.com 8 WLeed3@ 8 Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ 7 geezerfreak geezerfreak@ 3 drpetersutphen drpetersutphen@ 3 William108 william108wm@ 3 Dick Richardson somerset_2@ `Yes' 3 Dick Mays dickmays@ `Yes' 3 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@ 2 sgrayatlarge no_re...@yahoogroups.comno_reply%40yahoogroups.com 2 scienceofabundance no_re...@yahoogroups.comno_reply%40yahoogroups.com 2 beno beno mynameisbeno@ 2 Tom azgrey@ 2 Marek Reavis reavismarek@ 2 Hugo richardhughes103@ 1 uns_tressor uns_tressor@ 1 tkrystofiak krysto@ 1 pranamoocher bhrma@ 1 nelson lafrancis nelsonriddle2001@ 1 metoostill metoostill@ 1 Peter drpetersutphen@ 1 Paul Mason premanandpaul@ 1 Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ 1 Mike Doughney mike@ 1 Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ 1 Joe Smith msilver1951@ 1 Barbara Thomas barbara_thomas73@ 1 min.pige min.pige@ 1 wayback71 wayback71@ 1 jyouells2000 john_youells@ 1 shukra69 shukra69@ 1 sanosh2002 sanosh2002@ 1 Zoran Krneta krneta.zoran@ 1 John jr_esq@ `Yes' 1 enpai enpai@ 2 Jason jedi_spock@ 2 tomwalsh23 tomwalsh23@ 2 It's just a ride bill.hicks.all.a.ride@ 3 kaladevi93 no_re...@yahoogroups.com no_reply%40yahoogroups.com 2 Stu buttsplicer@ 6 Ben brbenjaminassisi@ 1 kuldip jhala kulls2005@ 1 ve-da@ 1 ultrarishi no_re
Re: [FairfieldLife] Hello Jai Guru Dev
Thanks Rick for posting this... I spoke with him because I am going in Alhabad soon. Nice guy..! 2009/5/24 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com *From:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto: fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *bhawani_shank2000 *Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2009 12:00 AM *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Hello Jai Guru Dev This is Pandit Bhawani Shankar Kaushik From Allahabad India, This fellow is one of the pundits in the TM pundit group in Allahabad. He's been a pundit for 18 years and is on faculty there, teaching Yajur Veda chanting to younger pundits. I know this because he Skyped me.
Re: [FairfieldLife] kaayastha: brahmin/kshatriya?
...that his family was of the kayastha (scribal) caste. That is correct... but that caste is not very much liked in India because they were serving Muslim administration during their occupation of India. In India they appreciate that cast as lower Kshatriya cast or upper Vaishya cast.
[FairfieldLife] movement project to create a new book
Dear Friend, It is a very great joy to inform you of the launch today - on the auspicious day of Akshaya Tritiya, the day of Lasting Achievements - of the project to create a new book to which all our Movement people will have the opportunity of contributing their personal and professional experiences with Maharishi. Maharishi gave enlightenment to millions of people all over the world, and many people had beautiful experiences of Maharishi’s Cosmic nature, his unbounded love, intelligence, and organizing power. Maharishi told us that a Saint's life can not be represented by instances on the surface value of happenings. The life of the Realized is all on the level of unity, on the level of bliss consciousness. We heard from Maharishi some instances of the life of his Master, Guru Dev, which helped us to understand the unbounded greatness of what it was that Maharishi gave his all to in total devotion for his whole life. Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam has warmly blessed the idea that we should in turn do the same for future generations. All of us who had some contact with Maharishi can together give those who come after us some feeling of what it was like to be in his presence; what was that Cosmic Intelligence like in action; how did it manifest in its infinite organizing power as the unbounded achievements that made Kali Yuga bow to Sat Yuga; how did pure, unbounded love move in the world as a wave of infinite, divine love, what was it like to be in the world with the living incarnation of Brahm. Many thousands of people had experiences with Maharishi that can be a lighted lamp for the hearts and minds of future generations. We will collect these experiences and put them in a book. As a rich beginning for this book, Prime Minister has suggested to include the tributes of the Rajas, Ministers and other leaders, which were compiled into a book at the request of the Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math. These tributes are more formal in nature, and now all who wish to contribute their most precious experiences as a record of the heart and mind will also be invited to contribute. All those who were fortunate to have any personal experience with Maharishi are invited to write it down and send it for inclusion. For some it will be a challenge to choose from many great experiences, and others may feel their one experience is too humble and simple to be included. How to choose? There is really only one question to ask yourself: Does my story bring out Maharishi’s universal greatness? If you feel it does, please send it. If you have many great experiences they could all be sent, and the book will grow to multiple volumes. It may take many years to bring out all the experiences. The plan is to begin, and publish when a good-sized volume is ready. Guidelines for submissions: - Submissions could be any length, although about 2 pages would be good - Your text should be concise and to the point - Focus just on the points that bring out Maharishi's Cosmic status, including events that highlight important points of knowledge - It would be good to include any photos of the occasion if they are available - Also if there were other people who could verify the occasion please include their names - At the top of the first page please put your name and the country where the experience took place. It would be most ideal if you could send your text in both your mother tongue and English, so it can be published in both languages. Please send submissions to maharishi.b...@maharishi.net Wishing you great joy in bringing out the precious highlights of your Cosmic experience with our divine Master, Jai Guru Dev, Peter Swan Minister of Communication Global Country of World Peace
Re: [FairfieldLife] Meditation vs. Vedantic Contemplation
Those are 2 different types of practice for 2 different levels of consciousness. Cosmic consciousness: “The observer and the observed create a dualistic reality [witnessing]…” – DHYAN PPRACTICE Brahman consciousness: “…and the higher step of contemplation helps one to realize that one's real self is the Self of all.” – CONTENPLATION PRACTICE I don’t know how you can realize the second not doing first – not realizing turya, fourth. Transcendental, Samadhi…
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools
Kirk wrote: TM is ultimately a Vaishnava methodology... You are right... Shankara had Shri Vidya and Saiva background... but his Guru was Vaishnava... He worshiped Lord Narasimha and whole lineage was worshiping Vishnu: Parashara (read Brihad Parashara Hora Sastra), Vyasa, Shukadev...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools
Hindu word for religion is Dharma.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools
It heightens awareness of an aspect of our mind. I don't believe that it heightens awareness itself or our capacity to be aware of anything else more or better. The purpose for me is that it is enjoyable. No higher state needed. That said it is way down on my list of things I want to do with my day so I haven't meditated in a long time. But I enjoy meditation without the belief's attached to it or the idea that I am experiencing a higher state of mind. That was my original point. You can enjoy meditaiton without the context of religious beliefs. Without assuming the traditional belief structure it becomes an experiment without an assumed conclusion. I don't assume any benifits other than the enjoyment of the experience itself. This approach isn't for everyone, but it works for me. What you are promoting here is certain belief system. My point was that there is no secular meditation – it means that there is no meditation WITHOUT certain belief system whether you believe in Mickey Mouse or God or nothing at all.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools
*I believe* you are confused about the meaning of the word secular: Hallelujah brother... you are believer :) I know what word secular in strict sense means, but if you want to explain to mass of others about your type of meditation you will end up in some sort of belief system because you will not have scientific arguments about it. Like... you say: The purpose for me is that it is enjoyable. Then you will need to explain what kind of joy is that, what is purpose of it... etc.etc. and soon you will have belief system no matter how that fits in your understanding of word secular.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools
Meditation is for Self realization and God realization. Secular meditation simply does not exist. If Sufi meditation HELPS me to realize my Self and finally God I would accept it. You wouldn't?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools
Which you like…
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools
In my personal life, sure. In state-sponsored public schools? No. In my Country in state-sponsored public schools children have religion classes and they participating on the voluntary basis. Other confessions have the same chance. Nobody makes problems about that. Meditation has many different purposes in many person's lives. May have different purposes and effects but goal is the same. Buddhism honors no god. But it is religion. Is it your feeling that Buddhists don't meditate? They meditate of course, but the object or goal of their meditation they can call as they like... it's essentially the same as in other religions no matter they honors God or not.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools
Secular meditation simply does not exist. Sure it does. You are claiming that secular meditation develops higher state of consciousness too. If you are right than Self realization/God realization are reachable by your secular meditation also. So what are the differences between them?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Web Event: McCartney/Lynch Benefit Concert to Push TM in Public Schools
You are claiming that secular meditation develops higher state of consciousness too. I don't see any evidence that they do. I think meditation heightens an awareness of an aspect of our mind that has a small role in who we are or how we perform in the world. What you say is contradiction. If you don’t see evidence then what would be the purpose of doing “meditation that heightens awareness…”?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Gayatri, Buddhist mantra, HHDL on enlightenment
Gayatri Mantra comes together with Yagya Upavit Samskara. If you want to learn and chant Gayatri there are some other things about which you have to take care... not only how pronounce properly. Other mantras are not included in this procedure.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY on zero
Zero is infinitely smallest but... Brahman is bigger than the biggest and smaller than the smallest.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Where are you getting your B-12 from as a vegetarian?
lentils (dhal) 2009/2/24 off_world_beings no_re...@yahoogroups.com Where are you getting your B-12 from as a vegetarian? Anybody know? OffWorld
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where are you getting your B-12 from as a vegetarian?
then try beans 2009/2/24 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote: lentils (dhal) Only if the lentils are contaminated with animal feces.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where are you getting your B-12 from as a vegetarian?
then farmacy :) 2009/2/24 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote: then try beans Nope. http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/b12.htm 2009/2/24 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zoran@ wrote: lentils (dhal) Only if the lentils are contaminated with animal feces.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where are you getting your B-12 from as a vegetarian?
cottage cheese also 2009/2/24 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zo...@... wrote: then try beans Nope. http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/b12.htm 2009/2/24 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Zoran Krneta krneta.zoran@ wrote: lentils (dhal) Only if the lentils are contaminated with animal feces.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: digitizing Vedic chanting
All Vedic chanting records were done in Vlodrop - analog in beginning and afterwards there were all digitized, while MMY was still there. Most of analog records were damaged due the conditions in which there were stored. What you are listening on MMY channel are digitized versions of Vedic chanting.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: digitizing Vedic chanting
in adition... listening Rig Ved is not any more part of game... it's Vishnu Sahasranam...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Spa?WHERE in India to the Europeans go CONTACT INFO?PLEASE
Try this: http://sashas-india.blog.de/2007/12/26/8_ayurveda_bhavan_at_rishikesh~3493264 http://www.indiamart.com/amvpharmacy/about-us.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Guardian on Karadzic
http://dragandabic.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Radovan Karadzic hidden in plain view
http://dragandabic.com/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Radovan Karadzic hidden in plain view
Most bizarre thing is that he was going around teaching meditation! http://www.jutarnji.hr/vijesti/clanak/art-2008,7,22,,127436.jl (Sorry isn't in English)
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Guardian on Karadzic
Slobodan Milosevic and his wife were supporters of Serbian TM movement. All time through they were in close connection with movement leaders and they enjoy support. I heard that one of them started TM.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Guardian on Karadzic
Daily meditation was the requirement of the SS In Ramayana you have description of demon Ravana and his Rakshasa army. They also followed and practised Vedic rituals, but with one difference - for realisation of selfish aims - power, money and pleasure. Lord Krishna in BG describes 2 types of human nature: divine and demonic one. It is up to us what we are going to choose - for what purposes we are going to perform spiritual practices - to realize God (Supreme Transcendental Realty) or to use spiritual practices to harm others. In TM movement you have the same situation: some people are looking for Divine, some for power, money and pleasures.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Guardian on Karadzic
search for freedom from disease and poverty is not same as search for power, money and pleasures... those are different categories... realisation of Divine gives freedom from disease and poverty... if it comes... if not... only Divine remains...:-) again in BG Lord Krishna describes 4 types of those who are searching Him...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: pics of MMY other Gurus
http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Raja Barrett in Finland?
In Croatian kupiti - to buy 2008/6/1 cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There might be a connection between those twain things, or, of course, then again, there mightn't. Be it as it may, I predicted that a couple of weeks ago or so, in a forum(?) of Kauppalehti (kauppa The word 'kauppa' (store, commerce, etc.) seems to be an Indo-Germanic loan word, cf. German 'kaufen', Islandic 'kaupthing', Swedish 'köpa' [sic!] and stuff.
Re: [FairfieldLife] TM sounds so much better in a Serbian accent
It's not matter of accent … more important is the posture in which he is addressing to us... zoran
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: if you want to know movement's future...
Sorry, Zoran, but your suggestion is a bit too coy for my simple perception. What would I see in the pictures from Maharishi's funeral? Thanks. There are two movements in the movement: American/European one (rajas) and Indian one (Maharishi's family - Shrivastavas, Girish Varma, Nand Kishore etc.) Maaharishi's family has shown during funeral who is with them and whom they are supporting. Indian part of movement was always dragging money from westerners and spending it in India on various things. They are expecting that this will continue, but Maharishi is not there any more to collect such amounts from westerners and forward it to India. Confrontation between those two movements is inevitable. In that light you should analyze this suggestion that Nand Kishore should be Maaharishi's successor.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Brahmachari Nandikeeshore should be the Guru after MMY!
There are two movements in the movement: American/European one (rajas) and Indian one (Maharishi's family - Shrivastavas, Girish Varma, Nand Kishore etc.) Maaharishi's family has shown during funeral who is with them and whom they are supporting. Indian part of movement was always dragging money from westerners and spending it in India on various things. They are expecting that this will continue, but Maharishi is not there any more to collect such amounts from westerners and forward it to India. Confrontation between those two movements is inevitable. In that light you should analyze this suggestion that Nand Kishore should be Maaharishi's successor.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: Message about Raja Raam of Japan Konhaus
He said now there's not one Maharishi, but in some sense Maharishi is now expressing himself to all of us, that he has multiplied himself through all of us. But most through those who payed more
[FairfieldLife] if you want to know movement's future...
...closely look at the pictures from Maharishi's funeral... and in adition make small intellectual exercise about movement's money...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: From a recertified Governor
Black Hand (Serbian: Црна рука / Crna Ruka), officially Unification or Death (Serbian: Уједињење или смрт / Ujedinjenje ili smrt), was a secret society founded in Serbia in May 1911, this society's possible connections to the June 28, 1914 assassination in Sarajevo of Franz Ferdinand, Archduke of Austria is considered to have been the main catalyst to the start of World War I. Ohhh you got me! Yes, Franz Ferdinand was a king killed by the Serbs. Do you see conection? Due to my bad reputation I am going around killing kings. My father was Croatian Serb, my mother is Croatian, I am living in Croatia. Is that relevant for someone? Maybe for such people who were creating war during 90' in ex-yugoslavia. During war on Kosovo I picked up 30 people in small bus and with help of others we were runing Dubrovnik Peace Project for 2 years. That is something what one political Serb would never did - to fight for peace on Kosovo. I concerne myself as someone without feeling of patriotism of any kind.
Re: [FairfieldLife] From a recertified Governor - From the heart to you
In the meantime, I've been following the thread on John Konhaus' email responses to the Serb's emails, and the truth of this interchange is very important to me because it speaks volumes concerning whether or not I can continue being an active part of any organization under such leaders. As I see it, the truth of this whole Konhaus/Serb interchange would be revealed if the Serb could post the complete, unaltered email messages between himself and supposedly Konhaus. According to my understanding, emails that are forwarded cannot be altered therefore all of us will have the chance to see the original emails. In following the thread, no one has suggested this as yet. Dear unanimous, I made an effort and expose myself to danger contacting wild, criminal, killing-king Serb. He told me that is irrelevant what was in the letters between him/Serb and Konhaus. He said that this was not a curt case so that evidences should be presented. Open letter was an act of resignation from the movement on the basis of his PERSONAL impression on Konhaus attitude. Are people making resignation from movement on the basis of fantasies? What do you think? What are your experiences? How many people left the movement? Do they need to present their evidences here? Wild, criminal, killing-king Serb said IT WAS A PERSONAL ACT! It is not the matter of Konhous, it is the matter of him/Serb who wanted to stop his PERSONALY agony with that organization. Is that enough? You are expecting that he/Serb show his correspondence but you don't want show up your name and face. If you want to see his/Serbs correspondence you can personally contact him he has an e-mail address thanks God! But be careful take some weapon to protect yourself in case... :-) Zoran
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Konhous replay_Open letter_2
Then why did you claim that Konhaus attacked you, when the letter you just posted shows the exact opposite ? Read carefully: Konhous replay_ Open letter_2 Konhous replay came AFTER my first open letter... ok? And ought to give rise to some excuses for the vile attacks on Konhaus from certain persons on this board. Turq and Sal comes to mind. But it won't happen. The TMO-hate has become patological. But is quite normal for you to throw shit on me and hide... it's not patological...?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics
Brahman alone is real, this world is unreal; the Jiva is identical with Brahman. That would be Advaita philosophy but part of that statement is argument which is used by mayavada philosophers. Shankara introduced concept of maya or illusion of the world and with that he actually introduced concept of qualified monism. Shankara also introduced concept of nirguna and saguna Brahman which is difficult to fit in concept of pure monism, so Shankara's Advaita or better to say mayavada fails to be pure monism. Zoran - The Shankara Acharya composed the following works: Bhashyas on Brahma Sutras... According to George Thibaut Ramunuja's commentary of Brahma Sutras is giving more accurate explanation of what Vyasa said, but Thibaut also added that Shankara's views are closer to Upanishad philosophers than Ramunuja's. Also we must say that there are many Upanishads and each school uses those ones which are basis for their specific arguments. Thanks for mentioning Nimbark acharya his teaching is also interesting...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics
Maybe so, but the TMer tradition follows the Adwaita tradition of Shankaracharya... You may believe that Shankara's advaita is right one, but that philosophy suffers from many inconsistencies. Shakara on many places did not put a comment on Vyasa's sutras rather he introduced and forced his own philosophy and system which give existence to mayavada philosophy which is not pure advaita. Maybe so, but the tradition TMers follow is the Sri Vidya and the Trupura Upanishad... Shankar's tradition which TMers are following is tradition which came from Lord Vishnu (Narayana)... Shankara's gurus were Vaishnavs. Later on it turned to be everything else including tradition of Shri...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics
According to Shankara, we can only know Brahman through transcendental knowledge; everything else experienced through the senses is an appearance only. If you are standing for Advaita it can't be Brahman and everyting else, that's mayavada platform... Mayavadins are not pur monists. Brahman alone is real; all objects of the senses are not real, yet not unreal. That is Ramunuja qualified monism. According to the Upanishadic view, Brahman, as seen through the senses, is real, not an illusion. Brahman is the Transcendental Person who can be seen and experienced with the senses. Transcedental Person is Brahman... Lord Krishna gave Divine sight to Arjuna in order that he is able see him. This is the dualistic view of Ramanuja, Madhva, and Vallabha. They are representing diferent schools of advaita. Only Madhva stands for pure dualism, Vallabaha - pure monism, Ramunuja - qualified monism.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Validity of Mahrishi's apaurusheya bhasya in the light of linguistics
You are suggesting that there is a Brahman on one side which can be known through transcendental knowledge and on the other side is everything else like ego, mind, senses... etc. What kind of Brahman is that which doesn't include everything and can not be the object of gross perception? Seems you fall in trap of dualism...
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: where was this man?
I remember during MMY birthday he had long hear and beard... I did not see him on photos... or he shaved hear and beard, because that will be normal if somebody participate that samskara. Does somebody saw him for sure?
