Re: [FairfieldLife] Civil War in 4 minutes

[Tom Huffman t...@chromapure.com [FairfieldLife]]

This is fascinating. Conservatives used to hide their racism by using 
code phrases like "states rights", but in the era of Trump it has out 
and proud completely in the open. This despicable post is a an excellent 
example of the genre.


Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

Sunday, July 24, 2016 9:19 AM
Identifying 1980 as the beginning of the GOP stranglehold on the South 
is not historically accurate. It started in 1964 with Goldwater. In 
1968 the South went for George Wallace. In 1972 the South went for 
Nixon. Carter's 1976 victory is the ONLY election since 1960 in which 
the Democratic candidate won a majority of the states in the deep South.




The *Jig* was up for the Democrats by 1964.The party of slavery, 
segregation, Jim Crow, eugenics,couldn't continue. The Supreme Court 
was shutting down segregation. It had to revamp. The scam had to 
change in order to stay alive. Lyndon B. Johnson noted that there were 
more blacks registering to vote in Texas than whites. He said" I have 
to give them something, not much, but enough to keep them quiet. I'll 
have  niggers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years." He 
began his Great Society campaign. He created the Welfare system, with 
welfare checks, food stamps, section 8 housing etc. All a woman had to 
do was raise her family without a man. No husband, no male roll model 
in the house. Thus he recreated the *new*  slave plantation. The new 
massa was the federal government with the intent of keeping it run by 
Democrats. Do as I say if you want to keep what you've got. These 
benefits were also extended to the newly arriving immigrants and this 
is the purpose of new immigration reform, to insure another 10-20 
million new Democratic voters. It's all a scam for political power for 
self enrichment. The people receiving these benefits rarely rise out 
of their station and go from one generation to the next while the 
Party bosses thrive. You ever know a politician to retire *not* 
significantly better ff than when he was first elected? What is the 
state of poverty today as opposed to 1964? About the same.

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*From:* "Tom Huffman t...@chromapure.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, July 23, 2016 8:44 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Civil War in 4 minutes

I didn't mention it because that was a remnant of a Republican Party 
that no longer exists. Just like the Democratic Party, the Republicans 
were split between between Northern and Midwestern liberals and 
moderates (the true descendents of Lincoln) on one side and 
conservatives on the other. Starting in 1964, and becoming fully 
realized in the Reagan years, the conservatives completely took over 
the party. Goldwater lost the election, but he was enthusiastically 
supported by Ronald Reagan (who campaigned for him), and like 
Goldwater Reagan opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act. The hostility 
expressed towards civil rights was a minority opinion in the 
Republican Party of 1964, but by 1980 the Goldwater/Reagan wing 
completely controlled the Party and the Northern Republican party had 
all but disappeared (there is not a single GOP House member remaining 
from New England).


"Goldwater was never elected and the Republican party distanced 
themselves from him since." Where did you get the idea that the GOP 
has "distanced" itself from Barry Goldwater? Nothing could be further 
from the truth. Goldwater inaugurated the movement that Reagan 
inherited, which then completely took over the Party. Far from 
distancing themselves from him, Goldwater is correctly viewed as a 
founding father of the modern conservative movement.


"More Republicans, who were the minority party, voted for the Civil 
Rights Act than Democrats." Nope. Look it up. In the Senate 45 
Democrats voted for it, compared to 27 Republicans. In the House 153 
Democrats voted for it, compared to 136 Republicans. However, aside 
from these numbers, the important point is that ALL of the Democratic 
No votes came from the South, the inheritors of the Southern 
Democratic Party of 1860. This wing of the party no longer exists. It 
has been completely taken over by Republicans, initially led by Strom 
Thurmond (another famous segregationist) who switched parties in 1964.


Denying that the GOP took over what used to be the Southern Democratic 
Party because only 1% switched parties is just silly. Very few 
politicians formally switch parties. It is a rare event for ANY 
reason. That has nothing to do with the historical transformation of 
the Parties that began in 1964.




All of the examples you provide of Republican support for and 
Democratic opposition to civil rights occur well before 1980. Those 
political parties are dead and have been for 45 years.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Civil War in 4 minutes

[Tom Huffman t...@chromapure.com [FairfieldLife]]

I didn't mention it because that was a remnant of a Republican Party 
that no longer exists. Just like the Democratic Party, the Republicans 
were split between between Northern and Midwestern liberals and 
moderates (the true descendents of Lincoln) on one side and 
conservatives on the other. Starting in 1964, and becoming fully 
realized in the Reagan years, the conservatives completely took over the 
party. Goldwater lost the election, but he was enthusiastically 
supported by Ronald Reagan (who campaigned for him), and like Goldwater 
Reagan opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act. The hostility expressed 
towards civil rights was a minority opinion in the Republican Party of 
1964, but by 1980 the Goldwater/Reagan wing completely controlled the 
Party and the Northern Republican party had all but disappeared (there 
is not a single GOP House member remaining from New England).


"Goldwater was never elected and the Republican party distanced 
themselves from him since." Where did you get the idea that the GOP has 
"distanced" itself from Barry Goldwater? Nothing could be further from 
the truth. Goldwater inaugurated the movement that Reagan inherited, 
which then completely took over the Party. Far from distancing 
themselves from him, Goldwater is correctly viewed as a founding father 
of the modern conservative movement.


"More Republicans, who were the minority party, voted for the Civil 
Rights Act than Democrats." Nope. Look it up. In the Senate 45 Democrats 
voted for it, compared to 27 Republicans. In the House 153 Democrats 
voted for it, compared to 136 Republicans. However, aside from these 
numbers, the important point is that ALL of the Democratic No votes came 
from the South, the inheritors of the Southern Democratic Party of 1860. 
This wing of the party no longer exists. It has been completely taken 
over by Republicans, initially led by Strom Thurmond (another famous 
segregationist) who switched parties in 1964.


Denying that the GOP took over what used to be the Southern Democratic 
Party because only 1% switched parties is just silly. Very few 
politicians formally switch parties. It is a rare event for ANY reason. 
That has nothing to do with the historical transformation of the Parties 
that began in 1964.


Identifying 1980 as the beginning of the GOP stranglehold on the South 
is not historically accurate. It started in 1964 with Goldwater. In 1968 
the South went for George Wallace. In 1972 the South went for Nixon. 
Carter's 1976 victory is the ONLY election since 1960 in which the 
Democratic candidate won a majority of the states in the deep South.


All of the examples you provide of Republican support for and Democratic 
opposition to civil rights occur well before 1980. Those political 
parties are dead and have been for 45 years.
Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

Saturday, July 23, 2016 8:48 AM
Of course you didn't mention that the Civil Rights Act wouldn't have 
passed without Republican support, nor the Voting Rights Act or 
Women's Suffrage . More Republicans, who were the minority party, 
voted for the Civil Rights Act than Democrats.Goldwater was never 
elected and the Republican party distanced themselves from him since. 
George Wallace was a life long Democrat. It's commonly said by 
Democrats that all the Southern segregationist Democrats became 
Republicans. Dinesh D'Souza points out in his film that actually only 
about 1% of them did. The rest *died on the vine* as Southern 
Democratic strategies changed..The south went strongly Republican as a 
result of the failed Jimmy Carter administration. They've been strong 
Republican states since, with the exception of two Southern white boys 
named Clinton and Gore who brought those states back to the Republican 
party.
The only thing that the Republicans would have in common with 
Jefferson Davis is a belief in a  strong tenth amendment, limitations 
of the federal government. Davis would never have supported 
abolition,full civil rights and full citizenship for former slaves, 
Women's Suffrage, the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act, Federal 
troops enforcing integration of the Little Rock Schools. These were 
targeted means of limiting the tenth amendment, strongly supported by 
Republicans with strong opposition by Democrats.



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*From:* "Tom Huffman t...@chromapure.com [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, July 23, 2016 1:28 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Civil War in 4 minutes

The Democratic Party was split in 1860 between the Northern and 
Southern Democrats. The main point of contention was the status of 
slavery in the western territories. The Southern Democrats wanted to 
ensure the right to own slaves in the territories, and potential new 
states. The Nor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Civil War in 4 minutes

[Tom Huffman t...@chromapure.com [FairfieldLife]]

The Democratic Party was split in 1860 between the Northern and Southern 
Democrats. The main point of contention was the status of slavery in the 
western territories. The Southern Democrats wanted to ensure the right 
to own slaves in the territories, and potential new states. The Northern 
Democrats wanted to leave the issue of slavery up to the residents of 
the territory. Thus, saying that the Democratic Party "supported 
slavery" and "expansion of the slave states" is an accurate description 
of the Southern Democratic Party only, the party of secession. However, 
the Northern Democrats did support enforcement of the Fugitive Slave 
Act, though even Lincoln's record on this is mixed. The act was not 
repealed until 1864, and it was sporadically enforced throughout 
Lincoln's first term.


Yes, the Republicans "were" the abolitionist party, with emphasis on the 
past tense. Starting in 1964, however, the GOP underwent a profound 
transformation. Barry Goldwater's opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights 
Act resulted in the Republicans winning Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, 
Georgia, and South Carolina, the first time the GOP had won the deep 
South in a Presidential election since Reconstruction. In 1968 the same 
states mostly voted for George Wallace, at the time an unrepentant 
segregationist. Since then, the deep South has been solidly Republican, 
with the exception of 1976 and 1992 when 2 Democratic Southern governors 
(Carter and Clinton) were able to attract significant southern support.


The Republican Party may have began as the party of Lincoln. However, 
for the last 50 years it has been the party of Jefferson Davis.


Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 


Friday, July 22, 2016 7:58 PM
Dinesh D'Souza goes much deeper into this in his new film,"Hillary's 
America". The Republicans were the abolitionist party and the 
Democrats were the party of the status quo, who supported slavery and 
the return of runaway slaves to their owners and the expansion of 
slave states..




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*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, July 22, 2016 6:23 PM
*Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Civil War in 4 minutes

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Friday, July 22, 2016 6:23 PM

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Importance Of Group Meditation

[Tom Huffman t...@chromapure.com [FairfieldLife]]

Sure, brief 10-min group meditations were conducted in a variety of 
circumstances. However, there was NEVER any suggestion that a group 
meditation offered any benefits above and beyond a private session, at 
least none I ever heard.


dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 


Tuesday, July 19, 2016 6:50 AM

Group meditations were very much part of what was offered in learning 
meditation in the old days of TM.  Group meditations were definitely a 
feature at the ™ Centers that were doing well initiating a lot of 
people. The group meditations were important to that for all the 
reasons [spiritual and then scientific] listed further below.




I find it telling that the encouragement to meditate in a group came 
only AFTER the emergence of the Siddhi flying program.


Prior to that there was no such encouragement

Those meditator group meditations became overlooked whence the TMO 
became Sidhis-centric and as the teaching of ™  fell apart once the 
more honed TM teaching movement based on initiating, group 
meditations, and residence courses got displaced by the ‘teams of 
four’ around 1977 that came everywhere to take over the local teaching 
of ™ and administrate the sidhis.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Is it necessary to meditate with the group?

Meditating as a group creates a more powerful spiritual vibration than 
meditating alone.  Amma has designed each session of the meditation 
retreat to increase the spiritual benefits to each participant.  She 
asks that we all attend every meditation together, and not meditate 
alone in our rooms.  If you would like to start meditating before the 
first session, you are welcome to come to the main meditation room and 
start early.  -Karunamayi





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The 'Collective Meditation'


-Spiritual Regeneration Movement NEWSLETTER

May 1965

Maharishi Concludes Five World Tours


"His Holiness returned to India on 20th March, 1965 after a successful 
nine-month world tour.



..A special feature of this tour was the keen interest generated in 
scientific circles in England, Germany and America, where scientists 
are now conducting experiments to assess the effects of Deep Meditation.."




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


"An event of unique importance took place on the 28^th of March, at 
Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh. The saints and Mahatmas of 
Uttarakhand assembled on the ground of the Academy of Meditation to 
invoke the benign grace and the almighty power of the gods to right 
the wrongs of today's world society."



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

..in "Duty-bound"

The "collective meditation"  of  "Deep Meditation",


"In welcoming the saints and Mahatmas, Maharishi said that the world 
today needed the intercession of the saints who are established n 
themselves and are therefore, nearer to the almighty power. The 
situation of the world now demanded of the people a powerful 
invocation of the grace of gods to fill the atmosphere with peace and 
purity. This, he said, can be effectively done by those who by long 
practice of meditation and various spiritual disciplines, had gained 
the privilege of being nearer to the seat of divine power and mercy. 
The saints of Uttarakhand therefore were in duty-bound to intercede on 
behalf of the people and invoke the grace of gods to alleviate human 
suffering."





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"..After Maharishi had stressed the importance and purpose of the 
assembly of the Saints and Mahatmas..


Then the party entered the 84 caves of Shakaracharya Nagar, where 
collective meditation was held for one hour. So soon as everyone had 
taken their seats in the caves, the meditation started with a 
recitation of Vedic hymns, and as everyone sank deep within, nature 
herself was absorbed in silence. There was utter stillness for one 
solid hour, at the end of which, the meditation was broken by a 
recitation of vedic slokas. The saints who are accustomed to long 
meditation felt the powerful intensity of today's collective 
meditation. It was decided to continue collective meditation regularly 
every Sunday until atmospheric tension abates.”




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Anybody have short quotes from the TM movement about the value of 
group meditation?  Doing TM in a group.  Something from the old days 
of Maharishi in the time before the siddhis?


There are plenty enough of charts and pronouncement of a value for 
practicing the TM-Siddhis in a group.  How about for pre-siddhis 
meditators and group meditation?  It seems that some portion of the 
meditating community is not interested in practicing the TM-Siddhis, 
at least for that long as they do in the Domes now.


Is there a value to just 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Importance Of Group Meditation

[Tom Huffman t...@chromapure.com [FairfieldLife]]

I find it telling that the encouragement to meditate in a group came 
only AFTER the emergence of the Siddhi flying program.


Prior to that there was no such encouragement

dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 


Sunday, July 17, 2016 5:22 AM

Is it necessary to meditate with the group?

Meditating as a group creates a more powerful spiritual vibration than 
meditating alone.  Amma has designed each session of the meditation 
retreat to increase the spiritual benefits to each participant.  She 
asks that we all attend every meditation together, and not meditate 
alone in our rooms.  If you would like to start meditating before the 
first session, you are welcome to come to the main meditation room and 
start early.  -Karunamayi





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

The 'Collective Meditation'


-Spiritual Regeneration Movement NEWSLETTER

May 1965

Maharishi Concludes Five World Tours


"His Holiness returned to India on 20th March, 1965 after a successful 
nine-month world tour.



..A special feature of this tour was the keen interest generated in 
scientific circles in England, Germany and America, where scientists 
are now conducting experiments to assess the effects of Deep Meditation.."




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


"An event of unique importance took place on the 28^th of March, at 
Shankaracharya Nagar, Rishikesh. The saints and Mahatmas of 
Uttarakhand assembled on the ground of the Academy of Meditation to 
invoke the benign grace and the almighty power of the gods to right 
the wrongs of today's world society."



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

..in "Duty-bound"

The "collective meditation"  of  "Deep Meditation",


"In welcoming the saints and Mahatmas, Maharishi said that the world 
today needed the intercession of the saints who are established n 
themselves and are therefore, nearer to the almighty power. The 
situation of the world now demanded of the people a powerful 
invocation of the grace of gods to fill the atmosphere with peace and 
purity. This, he said, can be effectively done by those who by long 
practice of meditation and various spiritual disciplines, had gained 
the privilege of being nearer to the seat of divine power and mercy. 
The saints of Uttarakhand therefore were in duty-bound to intercede on 
behalf of the people and invoke the grace of gods to alleviate human 
suffering."





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"..After Maharishi had stressed the importance and purpose of the 
assembly of the Saints and Mahatmas..


Then the party entered the 84 caves of Shakaracharya Nagar, where 
collective meditation was held for one hour. So soon as everyone had 
taken their seats in the caves, the meditation started with a 
recitation of Vedic hymns, and as everyone sank deep within, nature 
herself was absorbed in silence. There was utter stillness for one 
solid hour, at the end of which, the meditation was broken by a 
recitation of vedic slokas. The saints who are accustomed to long 
meditation felt the powerful intensity of today's collective 
meditation. It was decided to continue collective meditation regularly 
every Sunday until atmospheric tension abates.”




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Anybody have short quotes from the TM movement about the value of 
group meditation?  Doing TM in a group.  Something from the old days 
of Maharishi in the time before the siddhis?


There are plenty enough of charts and pronouncement of a value for 
practicing the TM-Siddhis in a group.  How about for pre-siddhis 
meditators and group meditation?  It seems that some portion of the 
meditating community is not interested in practicing the TM-Siddhis, 
at least for that long as they do in the Domes now.


Is there a value to just meditating in a group.  Evidently Fred Travis 
has data that shows that there is a spiritual value related to 
proximity and numbers of meditators meditating.




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

/Group meditation is a castle that protects the new spiritual 
aspirants as well as the veteran meditators. Meditating together 
increases the degree of Self-realization of each member of the group 
by the law of invisible vibratory exchange of group magnetism./

—Paramahansa Yogananda in /Seeking God Together//
/


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

/..Group meditations strengthen the individuals. When you're in 
meditation with other devotees you don't know how much you help one 
another. It gives you strength. There is a vibration that is created 
that strengthens, and supports, and encourages each one. So when you 
sit to meditate just remember this/.


—Sri Daya Mata on the SRF tape /Karma Yoga/

/
/


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bhutan: A piece of heaven on earth

[Tom Huffman t...@chromapure.com [FairfieldLife]]

I agree. I wouldn't get too rhapsodic about Bhutan.

Life expectancy is about 62, and the female literacy rate is about 10% 
(30% for males).


It is still a developing county that has a long way to go.


sri...@ymail.com 
Sunday, July 10, 2016 6:06 PM

your Heaven on Earth is a nasty place
Bhutan's ethnic cleansing 






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email4you mikemail4...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 


Sunday, July 10, 2016 10:51 AM
http://www.rediff.com/getahead/report/travel-bhutan-a-piece-of-heaven-on-earth/20160217.htm

   ***

Nestled in the heart of the mighty eastern Himalayas lies a jewel; a 
speck of green that is part flower bed, and part dynamic landscape.
At first glance it appears to be a simple, small country with a 
village-based subsistence lifestyle.
Yet beneath the surface, it’s immensely rich and has a diverse 
community comprising various groups such as yak herders and the 
Nomadic Laya people, as well as royal and governmental hierarchies, 
lamas, Rinpoches, and abbots.
It is the only country in the world to have banned smoking and plastic 
bags effectively.
It took a tiny Himalayan nation to challenge the concept of Gross 
National Product as a yardstick of advancement. Ever since 2002, 
promoting happiness is a serious business in Bhutan.
The King decreed that Gross National Happiness is the primary 
objective of this Himalayan state.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Morning Joe

[Tom Huffman t...@chromapure.com [FairfieldLife]]

BTW, here is the one other case in which someone was prosecuted for 
gross negligence in mishandling classified material.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/07/heres-the-other-gross-negligence-case-comey-cited-in-clinton-email-testimony-225266

Quoting Comey:

"I know from 30 years there's no way anybody at the Department of 
Justice is bringing a case against John Doe or Hillary Clinton for the 
second time in 100 years based on those facts."

and,
"I know a lot of my former friends are out there saying where they 
would. I wonder where they were the last 40 years, because I'd like to 
see the cases they brought on gross negligence. Nobody would, nobody did."


Tom Huffman t...@chromapure.com [FairfieldLife] 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

Friday, July 8, 2016 7:06 AM

There is no need to paraphrase or speculate about what Comey said 
regarding Clinton lying to the public. He was asked explicitly about 
this and his answer was "That's a question I am not qualified to 
answer." When asked if she had lied to the FBI (doing so is a crime), 
he said "We have no basis to conclude that she lied to the FBI." When 
asked if she had lied under oath to Congress, he said that they did 
not look at that because they had been given no referral by Congress 
to investigate this.


To establish that she "lied" you would have to show not merely that 
she made statements that were false. It is fairly clear that she did. 
You would also have to establish that she KNEW that the statements 
were false when she made them. So far, there has been no evidence of 
this.


The most often cited example was her claim that she never sent or 
received information that was classified at the time. The FBI 
determined that there were 110 e-mails that contained classified 
information went sent or received. However, this is out of 30,000 
e-mails and of the 110 only 3 had classified markings on them and of 
those 3 NONE had headers that indicated that they were classified (as 
they should have had). It is perfectly possible that she was simply 
mistaken when she made the claims about never sending or received 
classified material. Being mistaken is not the same as lying.



authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
<mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

Thursday, July 7, 2016 10:38 PM




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

LOL. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like just about the only time Judy 
makes an appearance in FairflieldLife lately, is to defend Hillary.
 Sorry, I don't see that as dedication to *truth* but dedication to 
one person.


How about dedication to whatever happens to interest me?

Just in the past couple of days, BTW, I had an exchange with John 
about the pope's suggestion that bishops and priests might make 
individual exceptions to the church's rules on communion for remarried 
people. I guess you missed that completely.


And as I pointed out but you ignored, I haven't been proselytizing for 
Hillary.


In one earlier post, I mentioned that  Comey said, in so many words, 
that Hillary lied to the public, by his denying the truthfulness of 
many of her previous statements to the public..
Judy counters with Gowdy asked Comey if she lied to the FBI in which 
Comey said *no*. "That's pretty explicit." Inferring Hillary never 
lied.. to anyone, the FBI or the public.


That may be your *inference*, but it wasn't my *implication*. (Check 
Mr. Dictionary.)







Straw-man argument. Two different  alligations.
 Hillary lied her @$$ off to the public over the past 15 months but 
*may* have told the truth to the FBI. We'll never know because she was 
never under oath, nor were her questions and answers recorded to be 
examined later.
*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, July 7, 2016 8:48 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Morning Joe




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mdixon.6569@...> wrote :

Duh!
Most dedicated of True Believers. Judy could be Hillary's *Bevan Morris*.
Hillary's *skin boy*. LOL
 BTW, that's not meant to be *mean spirited*. In fact, a compliment.

Oh, you two. Judy does not strike me as a fanatical anything, let 
alone a fanatical Hillary supporter. That's sloppy reasoning and 
analysis and lazy to boot - it reminds me of the way Mr Wooden Clogs 
used to throw accusations around like slop in a pig sty. You guys can 
do better.


*From:* "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>

*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, July 7, 2016 11:02 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Morning Joe

*Hey Mike, you think that Judy might be a fanatical Hillary 
supporter?* :-D


On 07/07/2016 06:41 AM, authfriend@... <mailt

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Morning Joe

[Tom Huffman t...@chromapure.com [FairfieldLife]]

This is inaccurate. Comey testified before Congress that there was only 
one other case in the 100 years since the statute was adopted that 
someone has been prosecuted for gross negligence in handling classified 
material, and that was an espionage case. All of the other cases that 
have been reported in the media as being just like hers--Bryan 
Nishimura, John Deutch, and General Petraus--were not, according to the 
FBI director.


Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 


Thursday, July 7, 2016 11:01 AM
Nonsense to your *nonsense*. I never said Comey fixed it. Yes, he is a 
straight arrow. However, he's not a prosecutor. He only recommends or 
doesn't. He investigates and  gathers facts.There are plenty of 
prosecutors that would have taken the case and claim that they would 
have had a more than  reasonable chance, if not excellent chance,  to 
win a conviction.
Numerous people have been charged and convicted of the same thing with 
less evidence.
Of course Comey didn't openly pronounce Clinton a *liar*. Very few 
people in public office ever do that. However, he openly countered 
many of the lies she had been telling the public. I'm sure you have to 
have seen them by now, split screen with him and her. She saying one 
thing with the date she said it and Comey saying she did the opposite. 
He exposed her lies to the public.
What Hillary told the FBI in private could be something entirely 
different from what she tells you and me? She can lie to you and me  
about anything she wants and has been doing but lying to the FBI in an 
investigation is another story. She definitely would have been nailed 
for doing that.
Lynch also reserved the right to go by the recommendations of her top 
attorneys, not just by what the FBI recommended. And yes, the meeting 
was intended to be secret. The FBI , that's Comey's FBI,was there and 
as a news team *got wind* of the meeting and approached, they were 
told *No cameras and no recordings*. Of course they were not allowed 
on the plane but not even allowed to photograph from outside. That's 
an attempt at secrecy.
The six pointed *red* star,  not blue or yellow, has had a little 
traction but not much. Nice little rallying cry for Jews that were 
going to vote for Hillary regardless. Far more traction than any 
twenty year old rape allegations of a  13 year old girl that still 
haven't manifested in the mainstream media, which if they carried any 
weight would have run with it by now.
However, I'll admit that there is plenty of time for each candidate to 
screw themselves and each other while everyone watches.
 I guess the big question will come down to "do you want the 
*Smartest* women in the world, who you can't trust to tell you the 
truth, to be president and keep going down the same hole or do you 
want to take a chance for some real change." Some 65% of people polled 
say we are headed in the wrong direction. Do they want Hillary's 
*stability* or do they want Trump to shake things up and chart a new 
course.


*From:* "authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, July 7, 2016 8:41 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Morning Joe




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Actually, I've been saying for at least a month or longer that she 
would *not* be indicted. Not because she didn't do anything wrong but 
because she would be covered and protected by the Obama 
administration. It just wasn't going to happen. The *fix* was in.


Nonsense. That's just wildly paranoid. Comey is one of that rarest of 
beasts: a straight-arrow, incorruptible Republican. He was crystal 
clear in his announcement as to why she wasn't being indicted: the 
circumstances necessary to justify an indictment didn't exist.


And it had been decided for some time that Lynch would go along with 
whatever the FBI recommended. (BTW, her meeting with Bill Clinton was 
private but not "secret.")


Yes, Comey did Hillary considerable damage. He did not, however, 
accuse her of having lied. She certainly wasn't straightforward, but 
I'm not sure she told any actual lies.


Trump has already f'd it up. His speech last night was bizarre. 
Instead of focusing on what Comey said about Hillary, he attacked 
Comey himself, and veered off that topic to defend his anti-Semitic 
retweet of the six-pointed star, which came from a white supremacist 
Web site. He said he didn't think it needed to be changed. Talk about 
a fiasco! He's totally losing it.






Obama has been saying in interviews since April, that she never risked 
national security, yada, yada, yada. Comments like that can be *seen* 
as tampering with an investigation. Just like Clinton meeting with the 
AG, in secret, on an airplane.
Quite frankly, I think Comey may have done something more dangerous 
for the 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Morning Joe

[Tom Huffman t...@chromapure.com [FairfieldLife]]

There is no need to paraphrase or speculate about what Comey said 
regarding Clinton lying to the public. He was asked explicitly about 
this and his answer was "That's a question I am not qualified to 
answer." When asked if she had lied to the FBI (doing so is a crime), he 
said "We have no basis to conclude that she lied to the FBI." When asked 
if she had lied under oath to Congress, he said that they did not look 
at that because they had been given no referral by Congress to 
investigate this.


To establish that she "lied" you would have to show not merely that she 
made statements that were false. It is fairly clear that she did. You 
would also have to establish that she KNEW that the statements were 
false when she made them. So far, there has been no evidence of this.


The most often cited example was her claim that she never sent or 
received information that was classified at the time. The FBI determined 
that there were 110 e-mails that contained classified information went 
sent or received. However, this is out of 30,000 e-mails and of the 110 
only 3 had classified markings on them and of those 3 NONE had headers 
that indicated that they were classified (as they should have had). It 
is perfectly possible that she was simply mistaken when she made the 
claims about never sending or received classified material. Being 
mistaken is not the same as lying.


authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 


Thursday, July 7, 2016 10:38 PM




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

LOL. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like just about the only time Judy 
makes an appearance in FairflieldLife lately, is to defend Hillary.
 Sorry, I don't see that as dedication to *truth* but dedication to 
one person.


How about dedication to whatever happens to interest me?

Just in the past couple of days, BTW, I had an exchange with John 
about the pope's suggestion that bishops and priests might make 
individual exceptions to the church's rules on communion for remarried 
people. I guess you missed that completely.


And as I pointed out but you ignored, I haven't been proselytizing for 
Hillary.


In one earlier post, I mentioned that  Comey said, in so many words, 
that Hillary lied to the public, by his denying the truthfulness of 
many of her previous statements to the public..
Judy counters with Gowdy asked Comey if she lied to the FBI in which 
Comey said *no*. "That's pretty explicit." Inferring Hillary never 
lied.. to anyone, the FBI or the public.


That may be your *inference*, but it wasn't my *implication*. (Check 
Mr. Dictionary.)







Straw-man argument. Two different  alligations.
 Hillary lied her @$$ off to the public over the past 15 months but 
*may* have told the truth to the FBI. We'll never know because she was 
never under oath, nor were her questions and answers recorded to be 
examined later.
*From:* "awoelflebater@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, July 7, 2016 8:48 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Morning Joe




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Duh!
Most dedicated of True Believers. Judy could be Hillary's *Bevan Morris*.
Hillary's *skin boy*. LOL
 BTW, that's not meant to be *mean spirited*. In fact, a compliment.

Oh, you two. Judy does not strike me as a fanatical anything, let 
alone a fanatical Hillary supporter. That's sloppy reasoning and 
analysis and lazy to boot - it reminds me of the way Mr Wooden Clogs 
used to throw accusations around like slop in a pig sty. You guys can 
do better.


*From:* "Bhairitu noozguru@... [FairfieldLife]" 


*To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, July 7, 2016 11:02 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Morning Joe

*Hey Mike, you think that Judy might be a fanatical Hillary 
supporter?* :-D


On 07/07/2016 06:41 AM, authfriend@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:






Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 


Thursday, July 7, 2016 9:39 PM
LOL. Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like just about the only time Judy 
makes an appearance in FairflieldLife lately, is to defend Hillary.
 Sorry, I don't see that as dedication to *truth* but dedication to 
one person.
In one earlier post, I mentioned that  Comey said, in so many words, 
that Hillary lied to the public, by his denying the truthfulness of 
many of her previous statements to the public..
Judy counters with Gowdy asked Comey if she lied to the FBI in which 
Comey said *no*. "That's pretty explicit." Inferring Hillary never 
lied.. to anyone, the FBI or the public.

Straw-man argument. Two different  alligations.
 Hillary lied her @$$ off to the public over the past 15 months but 
*may* have told the truth to the FBI. We'll never know because 

[FairfieldLife] (unknown)

[Tom Todar]

Please stop sending me email!

Re: [FairfieldLife] A good day for America (was Re: A sad day for America)

[Tom Pall]

How is it that no one remembers that we were not part of the Holy Romain
Empire, Germany Division and are an extremely heterogeneous people?What
works in Holland, where everyone is a cousin or everybody else won't work
in the US.   We are too diverse.   We don't have a royal family and were
not decimated by the Nazis.   Also, we are the 3rd largest country in the
world.   Holland?   That's about the size of Rhode Island.



On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:15 AM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 On 11/06/2012 11:45 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wgm4u no_reply@... wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason jedi_spock@ wrote:
  ---  wgm4u no_reply@ wrote:
  Let me tell you, my money is worth NOTHING starting
  today! Tomorrow I will cancel my health insurance
  and take the penalty, what, you think I'm stupid?
  It's all over, hope you're happy, welcome to mediocrity.
 
  Why the hell do you want to cancel your health insurance?
  And why pay the penality?
 
  You are emotional and irrational.
  Jason doesn't seem to understand that these two words
  are synonymous with being an American conservative. :-)
 
  Let's see, do the arithmetic, I pay about $4500. now and
  with the penalty I pay a forth of that, what, are you an
  idiot? I'm in good health! YOU, my friend are the loser,
  and God bless you if you have a serious disease!
  Indeed, let's do the arithmetic. Living in the Netherlands,
  I pay about 100 Euros per month for health insurance, which
  covers all preventive and emergency care, all dental and
  ocular care, alternative care like chiropractors or
  acupuncturists, psychiatric care ( which some will feel is
  a good idea for me, but which I've never needed so far in
  this incarnation :-), and the cost of all medications.
 
  The reason you pay more in the U.S. is because 1) you live
  in one of the only countries on the planet so backwards
  as not to see universal health care for its citizens as
  a basic right, and 2) you have allowed the 1% and the
  corporations to dictate your lifestyle to you. And when
  someone takes baby steps to try to correct that, you
  react with hatred. Go figure.
 
  All I can say is that I'm sure glad this whole sorry
  election spectacle is over. It was more low-vibe than
  watching gladiators in a Roman arena, and brought out
  the worst in almost everyone involved in it.
 
  Congratulations to those states who voted out the uber-
  misogynists Akin and Mourdock, to Colorado for passing
  the nation's first sane marijuana law, to Elizabeth
  Warren for proving that consumer advocates have clout,
  to Tammy Baldwin for proving that even in Wisconsin
  people can get over their prejudice against gays, to
  Maine and Maryland for doing the same thing, and a
  special tip of the hat to Donald Trump for finding
  ways to embarrass himself even more effective than his
  comb-over.
 
  As for Prop 37 in California, at this moment it appears
  that the awesome power of Maharishi Yagyas is...uh...
  a bit less powerful than the TMO wished to demonstrate.
  No problem. They can claim credit for all the other
  successes. I propose coming up with lapel buttons that
  say, I voted with my butt in the 2012 elections.  :-)

 Too bad that too many Californians bought the propaganda from Big
 Fooda.  We need to run Monsanto out of the state.  However this isn't
 over by a long shot.  The head of Stonyfield Farms when on Bill Maher's
 show two weeks ago said there will be a federal bill introduced
 requiring the labeling of GMOs.   We need to get up to the level of many
 other countries and ban GMOs entirely.  Other countries including China
 require the labeling of GMOs.  We'll also need a Constitutional
 amendment getting rid of corporate personhood which is the real fly in
 the ointment.

 OTOH, Prop 30 passed so maybe that will drive the Monsanto crew out of
 the state though I doubt it.  Bravo to my home state for passing
 marijuana legalization and may the hold their collective middle finger
 up to the feds who will give them trouble over it.  Time to end the drug
 wars.

 As for health care, you are correct and we need single payer in the US.
 The comprise is sort of a rip off.  I recall all the big companies who
 complained before Obama took office that health care was their biggest
 expense.  Okay, then why didn't they champion single payer?  But
 noo.. they had to be buddies with the health insurance
 companies to give them a big windfall.  So let's revamp the health plan
 and make it single payer like other countries have!  Of course I'm on
 Medicare but just Medicare A. Until my economy improves that's about all
 I can afford.




 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Rudra-Soma

[Tom Pall]

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:53 AM, card cardemais...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Could it be that Sandy was a massive collective unstressing
 caused by Soma([full]Moon)-Rudra(storm)??


No.   It was a concerted effort by Nature to punish a junkyard dog and to
keep the TMO forever off of Broad and Wall streets in NYC.   Also, the big
banks, insurance companies and traders who brought us into the Great
Recession are in NYC.   Let them trade w/o electricity.The French
Quarter and NOLA are next.

It was also wonderful proof that state, city and nationally sponsored
yagyas, Invincible America and the beloved pundits have made the US
invincible.

Anyone vote early?   I voted two weeks ago.   It looks like most people in
my county voted early.   I wanted to vote the straight party line but I
didn't find Tupperware anywhere on the machine.I did vote for around $6
Billion worth of bond campaigns and money allocations for the People
Republic of Austin.

I noticed that Lance Armstrong, Austin's Patron Saint, didn't have another
referendum on the ballet for the State of Texas to spend $200M to attract
cancer researchers to the state.   I voted against that referendum 4 years
ago.   The minute I heard of Lance Armstrong I decided that there was less
than nothing that met the eye or ear.

[FairfieldLife] Verified 809 Area Code Scam

[Tom Pall]

http://www.snopes.com/fraud/telephone/809.asp

[FairfieldLife] Cartoons [2 Attachments]

[Tom Pall]

[FairfieldLife] 100 Purusha leaving MUM, going to NC?

[Tom Pall]

This is from a faculty member at MUM.   100 Purusha are leaving VC next
month to go to North Carolina.   Is there a new place for Purusha in NC?

[FairfieldLife] Which sutras should I learn?

[tom]

Im going to learn the sutras.  what is the difference between tm's 18
and chopra's 28? I have been instructed in both meditations(chopra and
tm). Any suggestions and why?  28 sounds like a deal to me.

[FairfieldLife] Apple outsources chip manufacturing to Texas

[Tom Pall]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/12/17/amazing-apple-actually-buys-something-made-in-america/

[FairfieldLife] Newt?

[Tom Pall]

 *One afternoon Newt Gingrich was riding in his limousine when he saw two
men along the road-side eating  grass. *

*Disturbed, he ordered his driver to stop and got out to investigate. *

*He asked one man, Why are you eating grass? *

*We don't have any money for food, the poor man replied. We have to eat
grass. *

*Well, then, you can come with me to my house and I'll feed you, Newt
said. *

*But sir, I have a wife and two children with me. They are over there,
under that tree. *

*Bring them along, Newt replied. *

*Turning to the other poor man he stated, You may come with us, also. *

*The second man, in a pitiful voice, then said, But sir, I also have a
wife and SIX children with me! *

*Bring them all as well, Newt answered. *

*They all entered the car, which was no easy task, even for a car as large
as the limousine was. *

*Once under way, one of the poor fellows turned to Gingrich and said, Sir,
you are too kind. *

*Thank you for taking all of us with you. *

* Newt replied, Glad to do it. *

*You'll really love my place. *

*The grass is almost a foot high. *

[FairfieldLife] OT: Two tough questions

[Tom Pall]

*2 TOUGH QUESTIONS INTERESTING
 *
*
Question 1:
If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had 8 kids already,
three who were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, and
she had syphilis, would you recommend that she have an abortion?


Read the next question before looking at the response for this one.



Question 2:
It is time to elect a new world leader, and only your vote
counts.
Here are the facts about the three candidates.


Candidate A:
Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologists.
He's had two mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10
Martinis a day.


Candidate B:
He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium
in college and drinks a quart of whiskey every evening.


Candidate C:
He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke,
drinks an occasional beer and never committed adultery.


Which of these candidates would be our choice?

Decide first... No peeking, and then scroll down for the
response.
















Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Candidate B is Winston Churchill.
Candidate C is Adolf Hitler.

And, by the way, on your answer to the abortion question:
If you said YES, you just killed Beethoven.*

[FairfieldLife] Is Visible Man the Segway of this decade?

[Tom Pall]

Here's a list of the tech failures of the decade.

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/completelist/0,29569,1898610,00.html

I suspect Facebook, Twitter and Google will be on the next list.

Is there anyone here who will say they get bliss out of Depak's original
Bliss Technique?   If you experienced bliss, it subsided after a few
weeks.  Yes, it lasted longer than you got from the famous decocaneize
cocoa leaf tea which stayed on the market for years until a biochemist at
UCLA thought about it and realized it's impossible to decocanize cocoa leaf
but still keep the other alkaloids in it.


Anybody here want to attest that their money for MVVT was indeed money well
spent?   Anybody here still drink and replenish their holy water?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

[Tom Pall]

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 7:14 PM, wgm4u anitaoak...@att.net wrote:

  I might have more sympathy with your argument if the police in this
 situation had been in any danger at all. I don't think they were risking
 their lives, as you put it, or anything close to it. I think it was the
 students who were putting themselves in a potentially dangerous situation,
 given the propensity of the police for excessive violence.

 I think you said it yourself you don't think they were risking their
 lives but you didn't KNOW did YOU?? You can't run a police force under
 those conditions! Even if ONE of the dozen or so had a knife a police
 officer could have been killed!

 I think YOU should have broken up that demonstration, what do you think
 about that? You ought to be kissing your lucky ass we have police that are
 willing to risk their lives every day for us.

 PS It isn't a given that the police have a propensity for excessive
 violence, don't know where you got that given all the arrests that take
 place every day without incident. (another subject though)


And we don't know about the sadistic, top dog attitude many men take into
the force, do we?   Ever talk to one of these beasts?   The women police
were very, very effective in the City of Austin as believe it or not, a
woman cop was able to cool down a situation before it became heated.
They, however, were driven off the force by their hang 'em high, Taser and
Mace 'em male counterparts.

I know of only two people who actually should be law enforcement.  One is a
retired sheriff for whatever country Albuquerque is in and the other is
current sheriff for Lampasas County, Texas.

I fondly remember what happened to the very large carpet which covered the
lobby area of 700 Commonwealth Avenue, Boston, MA.   These guys came in and
said they were there for the carpet.   The receptionist called Campus
Police, who provided enough manpower to get the carpet into the van.  End
of carpet.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Testing clickable link

[Tom Pall]

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 6:14 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:
 snip
  Barry and a few others are good at posting links which are
  actually not links but graphics.   I can pick up the graphic,
  move it around but I can't plop it into a browser because,
  well, it's a graphic control.

 If you use Yahoo's Rich Text Editor, right-click the graphic,
 click Copy, and then paste it into the message window with
 Ctrl-V. (That's how it works with IE, at any rate. Copying
 the image puts it on the Windows Clipboard.) Doesn't always
 work, but usually it does.



Considering we have children here like Yifu who want to let us think a post
is about one thing but is actually his witless comment upon some picture
and that as Barry observed, it appears people can't communicate here except
by the battle of dueling Youtube links, the machination you mention isn't
worth the effort.   Frankly I don't want to be bored to death by some
British poet reading one of his works in a monotone.   I did just fine in
4th grade, thank you, and didn't need to repeat it.  Or stay
developmentally arrested there.

[FairfieldLife] Cain explains he appeal to female employees [1 Attachment]

[Tom Pall]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:32 AM, wgm4u anitaoak...@att.net wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus willytex@...
 wrote:
 
 
 
Judy, they were breaking the law!
   
  authfriend:
   BillyG, go look up civil disobedience in
   Mr. Dictionary...
  
  So, you're thinking that the protesting students
  at U.C. Davis DID NOT expect to be arrested?

 I guess Judy thought they should have been 'tickled' into submission.


Doubtful.  Remember she was on Amazon pricing Police power Pepper Spray.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 11:35 AM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardatrwilliamsdotus richard@...
 wrote:
 
  Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...
 
 So, you're thinking that the protesting students
 at U.C. Davis DID NOT expect to be arrested?

I guess Judy thought they should have been 'tickled'
into submission.
   
  Tom Pall:
   Doubtful.  Remember she was on Amazon pricing Police
   power Pepper Spray.
  
  Pepper Spray and Mace can be used for self-defense.
 
  http://www.safetygirl.com/

 FWIW, the pepper spray used by police is *much* stronger
 than the pepper spray sold to civilians for self-defense.




And the stuff used for bears is even stronger.   But it's cumbersome
carrying around something as big and as hefty as a fire extinguisher.
That's why God gave us concealed weapons permits.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getcher red-hot pepper spray rightchere...

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 On 11/22/2011 03:27 PM, authfriend wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogiraviyogi@...  wrote:
  LOL..thanks for the laughs.
  It's funny, but pepper spray is actually no joke. Anybody
  who thinks it's just a mild inconvenience resulting in a
  bit of temporary discomfort should read this analysis:
 
 
 http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/11/21/about-pepper-spray/
 
  http://tinyurl.com/855k9tk
 
  The spray can cause fatal respiratory failure in those
  with asthma or other respiratory conditions; it can
  injure the cornea with repeated exposure; and other
  chemical ingredients in the spray can also be harmful.

 I keep pepper spray in my car in case of aggressive cops, Republicans,
 car hijackers and dogs. The small pepper sprayer is only around $4-5.  I
 used to spread cayenne pepper on the strip of lawn in front of the
 family home to keep dogs from leaving their surprises there.



May you and your car have a nice, hot Summer day.

Re: [FairfieldLife] UC Davis chancellor “Chemical” Linda Katehi

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 8:03 PM, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thanks to the EU, bankers, and UC Davis chancellor Linda Katehi,
 university freedom for Greece's students has taken a huge, dark step
 backwards.


UC Davis' Affirmative Action Chancellor.  There was a time in a universe
far away where people had to be qualified to hold a position other than by
quota.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

[Tom Pall]

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:28 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
  
   Should we feel guilty for scaring him off?
 
  One thing is for sure. If you don't feel guilty
  already, there are those on Fairfield Life who feel
  that it's their life's work to make you feel that way.  :-)

 Just want to point out once again how you can make up
 any nasty story you want about the folks on FFL by the
 simple expedient of not referring to anybody by name.


I hear that the Guinness Book of World Records is planning on naming
a.m.t,  FFL, In-Bibliography-We-Trust and Banned-From-His-Own-Country for
the longest continuous play of The Taming of the Shrew if the play ever
gets to the end of its run.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Testing clickable link

[Tom Pall]

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com wrote:

 This is a test.

 Is this link clickable?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A2QkgMvTtM



Yes, and since I'm in Gmail and Google owns Youtube, there's both the link
where you put it and a miniature of the Youtube video with a play button on
it, on the bottom of the post.

Barry and a few others are good at posting links which are actually not
links but graphics.   I can pick up the graphic, move it around but I can't
plop it into a browser because, well, it's a graphic control.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

[Tom Pall]

Robin Calson and Ravi will show you how enlightened they were, have had
become, by snowing you with 1000K word posts..  This is because they are
drama queens, attention freaks and want to show you that no one who has
glimmered  Enlightenment  can describe Enlightenment in less than than
1000K words.   It's a sign of Enlightenment.  Your job is to use your
discernment to realize the difference between Enlightenment, was
Enlightenment or might have been Enlightened can be stated in less than 5
very difficult pages of delusional, desultory rambling.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:40 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TimA taustin52556@... wrote:
 
  Greetings group members.  I am happy to read the group's introduction,
 since I also embrace many genuine paths, and appreciate insights and
 originality from any potential source.  I learned TM when I was 11 and
  learned the TM-Sidhi program about 10 years later.  I personally have
 always felt completely content (grateful) with these practices.  I have no
 desire to learn any other techniques of meditation only because these, for
 me, are powerful and totally fulfilling in themselves.  At the same time,
 though, I appreciate and respect anyone else's freedom in finding their own
 way, as we all do in this challenging life.  A very brief bio, I graduated
 from MIU in '91 with a B.A. in Literature and an Art minor, and then got an
 M.A. in Spanish Literature from a state school in Texas.  Obviously, I love
 literature and languages, and also independent film.  Sincerely I add also
 that I love doing my program!  I'm leaving below a link to a poem I wrote
 about Maharishi.  The other blog at that site is a brief letter I wrote
 describing people's general, and variegated, response to my book The Return
 of Spirit.  Since Fairfield residents figure into this discussion of how
 those writings were received, this essay (Masking the Truth) might also
 be of interest to group members.  Thank you for letting me join, and I look
 forward to going through a sample of former posts made here, whose topics
 sound intriguing.  My blogs are at
 
  http://peoplesguidetotheendoftheworld.blogspot.com/.
 
  All the best, Tim Austin


 Welcome Tim !
 Please note that the majority on this board consist of naysayers who have
 jumped Maharishi's ship decades ago. Strangely enough they still cling to
 what they experienced and are able to write the most unbelievable garbish
 about our founder and the TMO.
 On the other hand there are som brilliant souls here, even some that live
 the fruit of all sadhana, that is at least CC.
 So your challenge will be to discover the diamonds in the dust.
 You are hereby warned :-)


Welcome, Tex.   Nabby is a bit down on the group because not all of us buy
into his crop circles and belief that Buddha's been alive and is walking
the fact of the Earth right now.

I make my home in Austin, Texas and want to offer you a big Texas welcome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv4eaSxEjTQfeature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv4eaSxEjTQfeature=related

Re: [FairfieldLife] This made me sick!

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 4:09 PM, cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:


 If slaughterhouses#65279; had glass walls, everyone would be a
 vegetarian. ~ Sir Paul McCartney - Go veg, people!!


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=r6E8H3C1CrUoref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iltalehti.fi%2Fulkomaat%2F202014789179_ul.shtmlhas_verified=1


This video has it wrong.  These are followers of HH SSRS and this is the
way the elite are treated on retreats.  I have pictures and AMEX receipts
to prove it.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Sidereal Saturn enters Libra?

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 5:53 PM, cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:


 Just learned that Sidereal Saturn entered Libra, His Sign of
 Exaltation?


Yes, and the people I sponsor?  We had a yagya baby this morning.  This is
what a Jyotishi says about the
not-supposed-to-be-conceived-and-definitely-not-to-make-it-to-term baby:


*Well I am happy to say that this young child choose his birth time well.
 He is going to be quite something.  He has a Libra lagna, so he'll be
quite charming and with an exalted Saturn in the lagna he's got good luck
and will pursue his education with dedication. *

*Sun, Rahu, Mercury, and Venus in Scorpio will be fine and actually will
bring wealth and a great business sense.   He also has Mars and Moon in the
11th so he is quite the salesman; charming, eloquent, and motivated.
 Jupiter aspects these two planets so he will be both honest and lucky.  He
will marry well with Jupiter in the 7th house and in the nakshatra of
Ashwini, so his wife will be kind and gentle.  Ketu in the 8th gives a deep
spiritual interest and he'll have wonderful insight.*

**
*As you know, there are divisional charts that show the subtler aspects of
different areas of life.  They all look healthy and in virtually all of
them Saturn is exalted.  Also in his chart as a whole, all of the planets
are in very harmonious positions relative to one another.  All of them.
 I've never seen that before.  *

**
*So yes, I think he is a yagya baby!*

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield exodus (was Re: Occupy the Domes!!)

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 2:54 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
 
  The challenge now for sustaining the dome numbers is that the
 conservative movement still uses their anti-saint policy as a loyalty test
 and to punish people by with-holding valid Dome badges to the group
 meditation.  They are still actively linking the anti-saint policy as
 discipline towards getting a current dome badge.


 Which is a very good thing :-)


Since no one could confuse Maharishi with a real saint.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A very touching 10 minutes, well spent

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:42 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:

I knew a Quaker during the later part of the Vietnam War.  He was
performing alternate service as a security guard at a hospital.  I got to
know him very well.  He never mentioned the war, never mentioned his
alternate service.  I got to meet his parents.  All nice people, neither
overly humble nor promoting their ways and their faith.  Few people have
influenced me in their lives as much as this young man and his family.  It
wasn't any big thing at all.  More likely it was the way they carried
themselves, their restraint in very tumultuous times in a very tumultuous
part of the country.  I learned from then to practice little good works
just by inspiration of being with them.  It was never stated but it was
obvious they had no desire to change or save the world.  Just interject a
little bit of good, a little bit of kindness into the world.  Believing you
can do or accomplish more gets one into the sin of huffing yourself up.   I
remembered my brief Quaker upbringing when I watched the video.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fairfield exodus (was Re: Occupy the Domes!!)

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 5:58 AM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
 
  Yes, good observation.  There has already long been a separation.   'To
 be or not to be' is the linkage between going to be with saints and valid
 dome badges.
 
  The numbers all show that.


 Didn't they recently have 2000 in the Domes ?



Yes of course.  Oprah and her entourage number lots of people.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Oprah in the Dome

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.comwrote:

 On Nov 19, 2011, at 8:10 AM, seventhray1 wrote:

  Loved that.  Nice looking group of ladies.

 I agree lurk~~everyone looks well and healthy.
 But if that picture is any indication of who is
 still going, with one or two exceptions, most women
 there look to be of mature age, shall we say politely.
 Which, if the case, gives a pretty good indication of
 why so few still *do* go.  The younger adults have
 little interest, most of the older ones who still do
 the Sidhis are either on MD, Purusha, or stay at home.
 Would be interesting to get a breakdown of who goes, by age.

 Sal


I described who went to the Mens Dome years ago.   The kiddies go at around
3:15 PM and indeed their teachers are there with clipboards.  I used to
sneak in during this session so that I could get 4 rounds a day in while on
CCP.  Or was that CCCP?  I didn't get counted for the afternoon program
often because I was already there when came time for the next, mens round.
  Until things were torn down for IA there were piles of foam as much as 5
feet high that men, often crippled men, did their program on.  Many wheel
chairs.  Many old guys. Many green bottles of oxygen.   I met the former
principle of the Maharishi School there.   He was retired from his
position when he was taken away from school by ambulance with his heart
attack.  By and large, there were few men in their 30s.  Even on IA now the
average age range is between 45 and 75.  There are a few guys in the 30s.
Many men from the US and Canada who live in hovels around town or in the
boonies who survive entirely on the stipend.  A few work construction, do
gardening or shovel snow for some extra money.  These men, eager for part
time extra money would go after a landlord or property owner like rabid
dogs after a piece of raw meat.  Chris Johnson comes in late and high tails
out early to avoid being accosted by those seeking part time work from him.
   You don't want to get to know most of the men now on IA because there
are so many sad stories.  I've mentioned before how no matter where my
friends and I hid, many men would cruise around and find my car, be it at
the Rukmapura, Georges, wherever.   They'd come in to say hello, be
invited by someone in my group to take a seat and once again I'm buying
lunch or dinner for some hungry soul.  The IA stipend doesn't go very far.
Pathetic stories from a diabetic man, on Social Security and the stipend,
talking about how he needs to get back to the Phillipeans.It's warm
there, living is cheap and you can buy a woman for a few dollars.  Not a
lovely atmosphere.  In the past year men have been coming down with cancer
and there'd be the talk that so and so is dying, doesn't have the money for
medical care, has taken his few last dollars to go to India to get some
kind of cure.   There'd be talk of so and so from IA dying.  You'd go take
your spot in the Dome and you'd see that now a spot was empty.   No one
took that spot, out of respect for the dead and dying.   So many times I've
felt like fleeing and crying.  I'd wonder just what it's like in the woods
off the major intersection of roads and interstates in my home town where
men gather after their days of signing, perhaps building a campfire.  I'd
imagine what they talk about is a lot more uplifting than what the men
living on IA stipend talk about.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Same-sex TM teachers (was Re: Yo Denise)

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 11:15 AM, jpgillam jpgil...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Bob's wife wrote:

  I recommend you get a female initiator

 I understand that it's TM organization policy these days for men
 to teach men and for women to teach women (or ladies,
 as the TMO likes to call females).


They're of course always ladies in strip joints as well.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

[Tom Pall]

EMDR is a very valuable form of therapy, especially if you are a long time
practitioner of TM/TMSP.   I had an EMDR therapist who had lots of extra
hours and I had loads of good insurance so for ~~$15 co pay for a 50 minute
hour I managed to put in 1200 hours of EMDR in one year.  I think that's a
world record.  For me there was no need for any of the coping skills, the
boxes, the safe places.  It was just forge, forge ahead.  TM/TMSP had
pre-processed most of the emotion, so for me it was more like watching
things from a bullet train or even a jet plane.  Regrettably, EMDR can't
handle pre-verbal stuff.  So there's a lot of retching, vomiting, loosening
of muscles, expanding spine going on with lots of heavy, heavy yagyas in
the past year.   My EMDR therapist, on the board of directors of EMDRIA,
had a hard time figuring out how it was I could so very quickly move thru
stuff.  The proof was in the constant expansion of my emotional and
behavioral repertoire.   So much fear, almost OCD, dissolved so very
quickly.   I continued processing during my TM/TMSP and my sleep.  Indeed I
continued processing pretty much 24 hours a day.   My EMDR therapist was
confident enough to give me a bunch of EMDR CDs to copy.  I listened to the
CDs during off hours and for years after the therapy was over.  I took a
break about every quarter and went to round for a week at MUM.  That helped
process things especially well.

OK, I'm ready, Dr. Vaj.  Hit me with what utter bullshit EMDR is.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A very touching 10 minutes, well spent

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 One of the real homeless that walks the street downtown and sleeps in
 the park is a schizophrenic who a couple years back found an abandoned
 baby.  His act was well publicized and he received many gifts and even
 job offers (which he turned down).   I was sitting at Starbucks and he
 came wandering by showing a bag of homemade beef jerky someone had given
 him and asked if I wanted some.

 OTOH, we do have some panhandling folks as soon as they have even change
 for a can of malt liquor head to the store to get exactly that.  At the
 end of the day they head back to their apartment around the corner.


Remember that kurt Vonnegut got some real mileage about a certain bag
lady.   Herb Caen told some interesting stories about bag ladies he
encountered on the sidewalks of San Francisco.  One day Herb went into
Emporium Kapwell and bought a bag lady some very nice stockings to keep her
feet warm in Winter.  She refused the socks but wanted every bag Herb had
with him.   Caen informed us that bag ladies were actually couriers of
secret documents.

BTW, I've seen some other videos on Youtube with this homeless man.  In one
of them he wasn't making more than a few cents a day.  So a nice looking
young lady came up, turned the cardboard over and wrote some really
compelling copy on it.  Henceforth the guy was racking in the cash.  The
title was something like It all depends on how you say it or something
like that.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yo Denise

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:43 PM, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:


 This is similar to the combined eye movement-eye fixation with
 pranayam/mudras that SSRS used to teach on extended meditation courses.

 Don't know if he still does.



No longer taught.  But I see the EMDR approach in a lot of things,
including TM.   EMDR appears to work by uniting the right and left
hemispheres.  It can also be seen as an orienting response.   When a wild
animal is traumatized it first freezes.  As the threat goes away, the
animal eventually starts this rapid eye movement from left to right, right
to left.  In effect re-orienting itself.  Finally it literally shakes off
the trauma.  We acknowledge this when we tell someone to shake it off.
We tell someone how we've had this cold or fear for so long and have just
not been able to shake it off.   One of the worse things you can do to
any animal is to interrupt it's freezing, orienting then shaking off a
trauma.  People do this with pets and even fallen birds.  The result is
that they don't recover from the trauma and eventually succomb to it.

If you think about it there's a lot of the rhythmic bilateral in many of
our activities including dancing and foot or finger tapping to music.  I
used to love to just walk quickly, sometimes for many miles.  A lot of
troublesome emotions and energy just bubbled right out with the left right
left right.  Yes, pranayam also has a bilateral effect.  It's kind of like
speaking prose.  Once you look around you see we're engaging in bilateral
activities all the time and don't even realize the underlying benefits of
it all.

[FairfieldLife] A very touching 10 minutes, well spent

[Tom Pall]

http://www.flickspire.com/m/Share_This/changeforadollar?lsid=161f9da9b7692b6854ca64548e80ab61

[FairfieldLife] Federal Spending In Ron Paul’s District Quadrupled In The Last Ten Years

[Tom Pall]

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/07/22/276281/ron-paul-spending-quadrupled/

[FairfieldLife] Immediate Seva/Donations needed at the Boone Ashram

[Tom Pall]

*From:* Art of Living Charlotte aolcharlo...@yahoo.com
*To:* aolcharlotte aolcharlo...@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2011 11:07 AM
*Subject:* Immediate Seva/Donations needed at the Boone Ashram-
Original Message -

 Immediate Seva/Help needed at the Boone Ashram

The Charlotte team is volunteering to setup the kitchen this Saturday.
Please accept this as a personal invitation to join the team.

We also need donations for cooking utensils and grocery items to setup a
starter kitchen. Please donate generously.

If you cannot be there in person, you can choose to donate items for the
kitchen.

The team is leaving for Boone on Saturday, 19th Nov morning - 08:30 AM and
returning back 04:30 PM.

If you would like to carpool or offer to drive contact us.

If you cannot join the team but would like to donate items for kitchen,
then contact us for arranging the drop off/pickup.

*For Donations call/email:* Mini Kartha: 804.683.5676 ;
mini_kar...@hotmail.com

*For Car Pool call:* Anurag Goel: 518.362.1650 ; anu...@isynergycorp.com

**

*Schedule/Other Questions: *

*Leaving for Boone Ashram:* Saturday 19th Nov 2011, 8:30 am and returning
at 4:30 pm
*Address:* 639 Whispering Hills Road, Boone, North Carolina, United States



*Charlotte Seva team details:*
Art of Living Charlotte SEVA team
980-216-8732
charlo...@us.artofliving.org

  *For information about Art Of Living Foundation, Charlotte
**www.artofliving.org/charlotte* http://www.artofliving.org/charlotte*
Email: charlo...@us.artofliving.org
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The hate caused by UNHATE :-)

[Tom Pall]

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Let's just squash this bug every time Barry lets it
 loose. Nobody overreacted yesterday to that
 suggestion.


Actually, everybody underreacted.   The proper reaction should have been a
slew of atta boys towards my post, telling once again how right on I am,
how I should be one of the only posters here taken seriously, heeded, etc.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

[Tom Pall]

Clearly the top 4 posters should at the very minimum be banned from FFL for
eternity or longer then drawn and quartered.

Cat?  The other white meat.

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 Clearly, the Post Count script has horked up a hairball.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@...
 wrote:
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The hate caused by UNHATE :-)

[Tom Pall]

On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Yo Tom,



 Although I'm always pleased to be mistaken for Judy, I'm not sure she
 would want me taking credit for her insights; the quote below should have
 been attributed to her.



I'm sure you enjoy sharing clothes,  shoes.  gossip, hair style and makeup
secrets with In Bibliography We Trust.  If Buckero can get away with 45
levels of  from never snipping, surely I can randomly decide to
respond to three posters ago.  Understand that I loathe you almost as much
as I loath RC and Ravioli, so responding to your posts is about as
distasteful to me as having sex with a rattlesnake.   There's so little
time and so much to snipe at, so find a post, respond to it is my motto.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Important message from Drs. Howard and Alice Settle

[Tom Pall]

I'm amused.  TM popped up in the vast collegiate Boston area sprawl after
Scientology.  The Scientologists were everywhere, offering free
psychological tests and a $30 communication course.   Of course they were
everywhere, because they had to sell courses so they could buy the next
courses for themselves.  Now it was very transparent to all (college area,
remember), that this was bait and switch, perhaps also up sell.   And very
few bought it.  Then shit eating grinned Jerry Jarvis and his shit eating
grinned, identically suited cronies came to town.   I went to see them in
Hayden Hall, which was jam packed.   Jerry was hard to understand because
he broke down into giggles at least twice with each sentence.   He offered
us clearer minds, better grades, deep relaxation, bliss and joy.   Now mind
you the colleges had to close down early that year because of the anti-war
demonstrations and riots.  So Giggles didn't get any buyers.  Giggles had
no credibility.  But there's something else.  We had each of us been hit up
by a Scientologist at least a few score times.   We understood that they
weren't selling a communication improving product.   They were selling a
lifestyle.  Jerry was also selling a lifestyle, an ever costly lifestyle we
intuited.

Strangely enough, TM did enough bogus research, got placed in every mag
from US News to Popular Mechanics, became a lot more dispersed, looked a
lot safer and I decided to learn it.  I learned it at just the right
time.  The undertow I stepped into sucked me and my money in so very
quickly.  But of course I was ripe for the picking.   There /seemed/ to be
a lot of TMers when I went to residence courses and to the centers but
actually most had already dropped out and the many I saw on residence
courses soon dropped out.  Even the blond, silver tongued god of TM, Bob
Lee first dropped out of TM then dropped out of living.

Of course TM is a cult.   Of course cults begin with bait and switch.
Wonder into an evangelical church.You'll be surrounded with love.  Love
will follow to to your car, offer to drive you home, drive you back, be
ever around you.   Eventually, take the call, walk forward, take the long
walk up the aisle.  Soon afterwards you'll find out all the love stuff?
That was the demo.

So it's established.  It was established on alt.med.TM decades ago.   Why
is it each new event is news that proves what we already know?   Are we
all doing dingy Doug's shtick?   God.   When will the gods free FFLers
from having to push that boulder almost to the top of the hill, slip, have
the boulder roll down on us and we have to start again?   Can't a few of us
leave the boulder there and walk off into a more interesting life?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Send in your bids

[Tom Pall]

These sandals would be considered 2nd degree relics.   We'd just need
another 2nd degree relic, a 1st degree relic (like hair, bone, flesh) of
Maharishi,  have Maharishi go thru the sainthood process and we'd have
everything we'd need to create an alter for a proper Catholic masses.  Oh,
we'd also need the light of day, as only in daylight can we have
transubstantiation.  Getting proper daylight in where Maharishi's involved
is, well, problematic.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Misogyny In The TMO (was Re: How could the TMO be so stupid?)

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:43 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:

But I was told, in alarming fashion by Carol Goldberger, a TM teacher in
Fort Lauderdale who went back to being an MSW in Palm Beach County, IRRC,
that there were Begin Shudder g a y s /End Shudder in the TMO and
especially MIU.   Perish the thought that people recruiting straight boys
to become homosexuals should be administering the TMO and MIU.

Now just how do you segregate the sexes when people are Begin Shudder g a
y /End Shudder?   We men on my flying block at Cobb Mountain had of
course loads of Begin Shudder g a y s /End Shudder as this was, after
all, California.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Misogyny In The TMO (was Re: How could the TMO be so stupid?)

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:55 PM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote:

 And there are other exaggerations, such as his claim
 that the TMO routinely excludes pregnant or menstruating
 women from its events. He cites *one single event*, an
 afternoon performance by the pundits for Guru Purnima,
 which pregnant or menstruating women were asked not to
 attend (there was no such exclusion mentioned for the
 evening part of the celebration, which did not involve
 the pundits).



Actually, women who are on the rag are excluded from THMD functions.  Food
is brought to them, in their rooms.



 Then he writes, I can't imagine these women [Oprah and
 Ellen DeGeneres] agreeing to any monthly restriction on
 what they may or may not do in any other context, as if
 going along with such a restriction would be a regular
 feature of their involvement in TM.



What's Ellen's gender again?

And Oprah's is as old as the hills.  As old as In Bibliography We
Trust.   More testosterone floating in her than estrogen.   It's a medical
fact.   Why aging women become ballsy.

In the Middle East if you're past your womanly change, you no longer have
to cover yourself.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is TM a cult?

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote:
 
  http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.cfm
 


 Summary:

 The Transcendental Meditation program cannot be called a cult because it
 develops independent, intelligent, creative thinking, and its founder,
 Maharishi, has in many ways encouraged personal independence, integration
 with society, and good citizenship.

 Well, of course, the organization enforces uniformity as conformity.  Try
 applying for a current dome badge if you are a former TM teacher or
 Governor.  There is not a lot of tolerance for deviation from uniformity.



I'm sure glad that a URL TtruthAboutTm.org is so objective in this
summary.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is TM well researched?

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:23 PM, shukra69 shukr...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 TM is most well researched:

 http://www.tm.org/research-on-meditation

 To a National Socialist, things like PRIDE, HONOR, LOYALTY, COURAGE,
DISCIPLINE, and MORALITY - actually MEAN something.

Look it's true.  It's on their website:   http://www.americannaziparty.com/

Re: [FairfieldLife] How could the TMO and David Lynch be so stupid?

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 On 11/14/2011 10:02 AM, Tom Pall wrote:
  It's a slow day here in Charlotte doing the bidding of the 1% so I'm
 about
  3/4 of the way thru David Wants to Fly.   Such a coincidence that I get
 to
  see this video, gratis, on the day Saturn changes signs and becomes
  exalted.   This is one of the funnies video's I've seen since They're
 Made
  Out of Meat.
 
  Why, how, could David and the TMO be so very stupid to have given David
  almost free access the many zillion laughable parts of the TMO and it's
  doctrine?   Self-destructive tendencies of the TB?

 Did you not notice that David is NOT middle class?  He (and his girl
 friend) seem to come from money.  He had no problem being unemployed
 and yet have the funds to travel all over the world for this and
 probably hire assistants to make the film.  Simple, the TMO smelled his
 money. :-D


Which David?   Notice the Hassidic hat David the creator of the video
wears?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Celtic meal bread

[Tom Pall]

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Start every day with Celtic meal bread. by Robert Williams
 I've been to Anza Borrego Desert before but don't recall that particular
 sign.


 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bWidiVJ9ims/SuZul5t-8UI/B8A/4zLrrLQ69k8/s1600-h/m%29+williams_artist.jpg



You might think it's cute to post pix with misleading subject lines on the
post.   I don't find it cute.   You, Dude or dudette, get consigned to my
trash as I don't want to be taken in yet another time by you.

[FairfieldLife] Buck, read a book

[Tom Pall]

John Knowles, *A Separate Peace* :Nothing endures.  Not a tree, not love,
not even a death by violence.   Find another way to seek attention on
FFL.   You and your buddies are banned from the Domes.   That you care is
evidence that TM/TMSP do not work.  Or, they work to well, turning
practitioners into addicts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:32 AM, seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.netwrote:



 What would happen if the restrictive dome policy was rescinded?  I am
 asking because I don't know.


It would be about the same.  And the TMO and knowledge, such as it is,
would die out.

The TMO pushed the people who had grown beyond TM, the TMO and the Domes
out of the nest.   There's this endless bitching and moaning about
exclusion.  But if the policies were rescinded, the numbers wouldn't go up
and stay there.  TM, like SSRS and many other paths is self-limiting.
TM appeals to a certain type of person for a certain amount of time.
After that they find they should be on another path or the path dissolves
away.   Same thing happens with SSRS.   Some really desperate non-Indians
follow SSRS.   You need to hear the stores told by CPs on SSRS's
retreats.   Some are getting off of alcohol, some drugs, some from TM, some
are lost and lonely.   Perhaps I'm just projecting, but I can see the vast
majority of the non-Indian followers eventually getting what they wanted
from their practice, getting cured by SSRS and seeing their desire just
dissolve.   When you take the Kriya course, most of the participants are
people who started AOL years before, dropped it within weeks, have come
back to try it again.   The Indians will continue.   Where else do they get
to sing their music, do their dancing, feel truly accepted by their very
own kind, be encouraged to dress like they were back in India?   It's like
the Polish American Club or the Italian American Club or the VFW.   Will
even the Indians stay with AOL throughout their lives?   Good question.

Maharishi's knowledge wasn't anything special.   When you take away the
hype, the glam, the golden pamphlets, calling a not all that striking dorm,
meeting and dining development Heavenly Mountain, you see why it was the
product of an age of people of a certain age.  Unlike many other movements,
like the 7th Day Adventists, the Christian Scientists, the Society of
Friends, the sects throughout history who spoke/speak in tongues, there's
no human archetype which supports it.  It doesn't satisfy a basic human
need.   Indeed even when Maharishi was alive there were so many meditators
and initiators who want to have a direct, personal, bhakti relationship
with Maharishi and that wasn't permitted.   The lack of fulfillment on that
was so palpable you couldn't cut it with a machete.Those left behind
just can't sling the same hyperbole and lies and recreate reality as The
Master could.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!

[Tom Pall]

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I stopped and spoke with someone in a U-haul truck yesterday which was
 packed loaded to the gills pulling a car that was equally loaded with
 belongings.  The person was leaving Fairfield.  Long-time TM meditator was
 here but heading out.  This is tragic loss of capital every time this
 happens.   It's been a long slide and obviously the numbers stop with the
 TM-Rajas and that Prime Minister.


Kindly explain how this is a tragedy.   What is being lost?   Is the person
moving away losing some great boon?  Is this one of the 6 Greek Tragedies,
man against man, man against the gods, etc.?   Is the community losing some
great boon?   Will an asteroid destroy the world (such things happen all
the time in this universe at least)?   If an asteroid happened to destroy
the world as a result of the move, what would be the overall effect in the
vast play of suns being created, suns exploding and turning into black
holes, the Universe continuously expanding?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 10:18 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@...
 wrote:
 
  On Nov 14, 2011, at 7:32 AM, seventhray1 wrote:
  
   I imagine there are people who like the idea of mediating in
   a large group, but would not be allowed.  I mean it costs
   about $10,000 for the right to even be considered to attend
   the dome.  So that is quite a small pool that is being
   diminished by people dying or leaving Fairfield. Not sure
   how many are coming in.
 
  Really?  $10,000 to get a dome badge?  I hadn't heard this.
  Are you sure you're not thinking of the recertification
  courses?  If that's the case, I've missed even more than
  I thought I had.

 Sal, you'd have to ask 7ray about what he means exactly,
 but I suspect he's talking about what it would cost to
 learn the TM-Sidhis these days, at full price. First
 there would be the cost of TM, then (last I heard) the
 *same* cost for each of the mandatory four Advanced
 Techniques you have to have before learning the Sidhis,
 and then the cost of the TM-Sidhi course itself. That
 probably comes to $10,000, at least.

 In a very real sense it's the poor man's robe  crown.
 Costs money to tread the stairway to heaven, doncha know...


Because even an impersonal God can't handle money.

Re: [FairfieldLife] APEC World Leaders Dinner Gets Occupied

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:50 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:

  After facing large-scale 
 protestshttp://www.civilbeat.com/articles/2011/11/06/13583-a-look-back-at-past-anti-apec-protests/in
  South Korea, Australia, Peru, and Japan, APEC moved this year's event to
 Hawaii, the most isolated piece of land on earth.


DOD's never visited Fairfield, Iowa?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: DOC-DEBUT: David Wants to Fly | Link TV

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
 
  David Wants to Fly - the whole thing - is now viewable on
  http://www.linktv.org/programs/david-wants-to-fly
 


How very humorous.   Gmail takes all of Rick Archer's emails and
automatically place them into my SPAM folder.  Nobody else's posts go
there.  I have no control over the SPAM filter, except to train the filter,
over and over again, that email from someone is SPAM and I didn't do this.


This is a great link.   Too bad can't download it and save it for
posteriority.*  *

[FairfieldLife] How could the TMO and David Lynch be so stupid?

[Tom Pall]

It's a slow day here in Charlotte doing the bidding of the 1% so I'm about
3/4 of the way thru David Wants to Fly.   Such a coincidence that I get to
see this video, gratis, on the day Saturn changes signs and becomes
exalted.   This is one of the funnies video's I've seen since They're Made
Out of Meat.

Why, how, could David and the TMO be so very stupid to have given David
almost free access the many zillion laughable parts of the TMO and it's
doctrine?   Self-destructive tendencies of the TB?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: DOC-DEBUT: David Wants to Fly | Link TV

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
 
  David Wants to Fly - the whole thing - is now viewable on
  http://www.linktv.org/programs/david-wants-to-fly
 


 How very humorous.   Gmail takes all of Rick Archer's emails and
 automatically place them into my SPAM folder.  Nobody else's posts go
 there.  I have no control over the SPAM filter, except to train the filter,
 over and over again, that email from someone is SPAM and I didn't do this.


 This is a great link.   Too bad can't download it and save it for
 posteriority.*  *



Funniest line in the video?There are one or two people in the whole
world who believe that TM is all about money.   Or something to that effect.

Re: [FairfieldLife] How could the TMO and David Lynch be so stupid?

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 On 11/14/2011 10:02 AM, Tom Pall wrote:
  It's a slow day here in Charlotte doing the bidding of the 1% so I'm
 about
  3/4 of the way thru David Wants to Fly.   Such a coincidence that I get
 to
  see this video, gratis, on the day Saturn changes signs and becomes
  exalted.   This is one of the funnies video's I've seen since They're
 Made
  Out of Meat.
 
  Why, how, could David and the TMO be so very stupid to have given David
  almost free access the many zillion laughable parts of the TMO and it's
  doctrine?   Self-destructive tendencies of the TB?

 Or just stupid.  I wasn't exactly impressed by the intellects of the
 financially independent European aristocrats that accompanied MMY when
 he came on my TTC.  Either they were family black sheep or there was too
 much inbreeding.  But they probably made good yes men.



Explains a lot about one of our moderators.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:20 PM, seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.netwrote:




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@...
 wrote:

  Really? $10,000 to get a dome badge? I hadn't heard this.
  Are you sure you're not thinking of the recertification
  courses? If that's the case, I've missed even more than
  I thought I had.

 Just guessing from gettyup to whoa that's what you're going to be out.
  First TM, then some residency courses, then an advanced technique or two,
 then finally TM Sidhi program.

 I don't really know if the advanced techniques or residence course are
 required, but even TM, and TMSP cost plenty.


Two advanced techniques are required.   Offered 6 months apart.   I've seen
the official requirement.   Get In Bibliography We Trust to find the doc.
She'll want to at least prove I'm wrong.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Occupy the Domes!!

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 5:20 PM, seventhray1 
 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.netwrote:




 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@...
 wrote:

  Really? $10,000 to get a dome badge? I hadn't heard this.
  Are you sure you're not thinking of the recertification
  courses? If that's the case, I've missed even more than
  I thought I had.

 Just guessing from gettyup to whoa that's what you're going to be out.
  First TM, then some residency courses, then an advanced technique or two,
 then finally TM Sidhi program.

 I don't really know if the advanced techniques or residence course are
 required, but even TM, and TMSP cost plenty.


 Two advanced techniques are required.   Offered 6 months apart.   I've
 seen the official requirement.   Get In Bibliography We Trust to find the
 doc.  She'll want to at least prove I'm wrong.



I was wrong.

NEW COURSE STRUCTURE
In 2007, Maharishi created a new procedure for learning the TM-Sidhi
Programme in
order to maximise the individual's growth of higher states of
consciousness. This requires
applicants to first learn the four Advanced Techniques of Transcendental
Meditation.
Maharishi says that learning the four Advanced Techniques first is the
ideal preparation
for the TM-Sidhi Programme since it will culture mind-body co-ordination
most
effectively. The TM-Sidhi Programme can then be started after a minimum of
two
months regular practice since learning one’s fourth Advanced Technique.

http://www.maharishi-european-sidhaland.org.uk/sidhi%20leaflet4.pdf

Looks like more than $10K to me, since you also have to pay for room and
board, as that's no longer included.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How could the TMO and David Lynch be so stupid?

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 6:56 PM, shukra69 shukr...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 It would have nothing to do with Saturn's exhalation as it isn't there
 yet. Saturn is very weak changing signs so that could symbolize the
 vulnerability of the meek people to attacks. The jyotish causality
 operating here is you are in your Rahu period, makes you want to blame and
 complain (rebelliousness)


No longer that time of the month with me and Rahu.  Try another attempt to
slam.

But, I know what an irrelevant poster you are.   Blame and Complain, eh?
Yeah, sure.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Is 'devotion to the Master' a mask for homosexuality?

[Tom Pall]

So what if following a guru is gay?   Is that costing you any money?  Are
gay followers of gurus following you home at night?   Are they trying to
break into your house, blaring their car horns outside you bedroom window
at night?   Do they use the word mauve in conversations with you or call
you Mary or Girl?

Sometimes you make some interesting observations.  Sometimes you say some
pithy things.  But other times your guru follower bashing is just so
repetitive, just so far fetched, just so transparent, just so repetitive.
I am a survivor of PTSD and TM, the TMO, Maharishi and the other followers
played a prominent role in the later part of my PTSD.  I like to read about
these things and also like to vent my spleen about these things because for
me it's a continuation of my healing process and learning about TM, the TMO
and Maharishi in an adult context.But what did or do your suffer from?
  Are you afraid you're gay?  Well, don't be.  Happens to the best and
worst of people.   Are you just trying to goad people every possible way?
What if people who follow gurus wear sweaters?   What if they're liberals?
What if they're conservatives?   What if they think Ron Paul has a
snowball's chance in Hell of being elected, let alone being listened to
except by a far out minority?   So what?Do you take words out of the
dictionary, out of a thesaurus and charge the followers of gurus with the
word of the day?   We had a really nice word a couple days ago.
Consanguinity.   You haven't charged guru followers as being from the same
blood line?   Why not write a rap on how bloody bad it is to follow a guru?*
**
*

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Aryans leave (what is nowadays) Russia?

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:52 PM, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The Coptic church is very hard core, like the 20th Century Russian
 church ... being suppressed by another faith, whether Islam or
 Bolshevism.

 Do you take the unseeable Jesus as your guru?



Yes, the Coptic church is very hard core.   But also favors the well to do
and well educated, as Copts had to buy their way out of conversion and have
had to pay extra taxes to worship, have churches.

I take no one as my guru.  There is a stage one reaches where one follows
one's own inner feelings, follows that path which opens up in front of
one.  While still being spurred on to be more, be a better person, give
more and unselfishly, there's also a self-satisfaction, and end to
seeking.  One doesn't feel one has arrived or has attained the goal he was
seeking.  One settles down as the path dissolves, the goal he was seeking
dissolves, seeking dissolves.One awakens from one's nap, get's up and
just goes about one's business.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is 'devotion to the Master' a mask for homosexuality?

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 2:46 PM, raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com wrote:



 At a hearing Thursday for a bill that would repeal the federal ban on
 same sex marriage, [DOMA] Sen. Al Franken (D-MN) encouraged his Republican
 colleagues not to worry because 'straight people aren't suddenly going to
 become gay.'



We would not have a problem absorbing gays into our mainstream
culture/society if straight people would just stop having gays children.
All this gay problem is actually a straight problem.   If you want to
consider being gay a problem.

[FairfieldLife] Heavenly Mountain Pix [11 Attachments]

[Tom Pall]

[FairfieldLife] Hang ups, attacks, obsessions: sure signs of enlightenment

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 3:07 AM, Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net wrote:



 Or.I could have ended up like Tom, the angel of unconditional hatred,
 forever in the hatred mudra.


So tell me.  Are constant attacks, the obvious show of hang ups and
obsessions, the sign of enlightenment or even the sign of going in the
direction of enlightenment?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Aryans leave (what is nowadays) Russia?

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:51 AM, cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:

 consanguinity


What a lovely word.   And so good to see my Latin's still there.   Of the
same blood.   Cool.

Now tell me.  How did scholarspeak arise and develop?  Us common humans
would use the phrase arose together.   Since so many of the $2 words
scholars use arise out of Latin, does scholarspeak arise out of Latin as a
former linga franca?

[FairfieldLife] Looking for work? Here's a job fair touting tech openings in India

[Tom Pall]

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9221756/Looking_for_work_Here_s_a_job_fair_touting_tech_openings_in_India

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Aryans leave (what is nowadays) Russia?

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 2:42 PM, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 In the earlier days of the USA, college students in humanities were
 required to learn Latin and/or Greek if they hadn't already learned one
 or both in high school (particularly Catholic schools).

 Of  course we no longer teach such irrelevant stuff, except to
 classics majors.


I had a very special HS education.   4 years of Latin, 4 years of Greek, 1
year of German (German 4), plus of course all of the AP courses.  I feel so
very lonely in tech work, especially since it's so dominated by Indians.  I
receive the most ambiguous memos.   I sent an email to a member of
management that I could not attend a meeting announced on Wednesday to be
held on Friday.   The response I got back was that he'd try to reschedule
it for tom.   Now did he mean reschedule it just for me or reschedule it
for Thursday?

[FairfieldLife] Pizza! Pizza!

[Tom Pall]

There's something that was not at all publicized of the trial of the late
Jeffry Dahmer.

During the trial the prosecution complimented Jerry on how cooperative he'd
been during the trial.  Jeffry responded that he wanted help as much as
possible.

The prosecution asked Jeffry Jeffry, there's something we've never been
able to understand.  Perhaps you could explain it to us.   Why of
course, said Jeffery, happy to help.   Jeffry, we went into your
freezer and found a Tupperware container contained nothing but mens'
noses.  What was that about?   Well, you see, I'm a gourmet cook.   My
mother especially loves my pizza but pepperoni is just too spicy for her
stomach at her age.  So you see, I'd slice up the noses instead of
pepperoni and sprinkle those on the pizza in place of pepperoni.   That way
I'd make... Please, don't say it Jeffery.   I have to.   I made Dahmer
Noses Pizza.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Aryans leave (what is nowadays) Russia?

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 4:39 PM, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Lucky you. Do you remember any of it?

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:
 
  On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 2:42 PM, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:
 
   In the earlier days of the USA, college students in humanities were
   required to learn Latin and/or Greek if they hadn't already learned
 one
   or both in high school (particularly Catholic schools).
  
   Of  course we no longer teach such irrelevant stuff, except to
   classics majors.
  
  
  I had a very special HS education.   4 years of Latin, 4 years of
 Greek, 1
  year of German (German 4), plus of course all of the AP courses.  I
 feel so
  very lonely in tech work, especially since it's so dominated by
 Indians.  I
  receive the most ambiguous memos.   I sent an email to a member of
  management that I could not attend a meeting announced on Wednesday to
 be
  held on Friday.   The response I got back was that he'd try to
 reschedule
  it for tom.   Now did he mean reschedule it just for me or reschedule
 it
  for Thursday?
 



Yes, I remember of a lot of my declensions and conjugations.   I can still
recite major works.   We had to read and critique a major piece of
literature (in English) every week.  A pity I was so young and immature to
appreciate the works.  I pick up a classic now, say *Moby Dick*, and I'm
enthralled by the richness, the biblical references, the symbolism.  But
now I have the time to savor a piece.  In HS had to race thru to get on to
everything else.  I still remember my Calculus I-IV I took in college and
still love Thermo and Physical Chemistry but I swear to tell you that both
heat and cold flow.   Put your hand up against a window pane during a FF
winter and you can verify that cold flows :D.   All that and the most math
I've ever used afterwards was solving for a or b in an equation y=ax+b.

[FairfieldLife] Block Model Predicts US Supreme Court Decisions

[Tom Pall]

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/248194/2012/supreme-court-votes-predicted-study.htm

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0027188

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Aryans leave (what is nowadays) Russia?

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 7:38 PM, emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 In Latin or Greek?
 If Greek then you would have access to the original wisdom tradition of
 the Western world (the Neo-Platonists) before they were assassinated by
 the X-stians.

 That would be amazing.



I wish instead I could read early Coptic, so I could read my own gospel,
found in Nag Hammadi, a place I've even been fond of for years.  Some of
the very best falafel and many pious Copts.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why did Aryans leave (what is nowadays) Russia?

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com wrote:



 You know, I never knew the genesis of the name for Native Americans.
  That's pretty interesting.


Come now.   When people wished upon a pox on someone's house, were you
thinking chicken pox?   We gave the Aztecs and Incas the Flu they gave us
VD.   They also gave us the potato, which allow 1 person to feed 20 instead
of 19 to feed 20, resulting in the wars, the moving to towns and cities and
the industrial revolution.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Cults that make you feel better about your own cult :-)

[Tom Pall]

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 3:44 AM, turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:



 *When the craziness of the TMO starts to get to you, or you find yourself
 shaking your head in disbelief at the off-the-wallness of either Nabby's
 Benjamin Creme or the antics of the RC cult back in his I can identify the
 demons within you days, articles like this can put things into
 perspective. This one reminded me that cults have been around for a long
 time, and some of the older ones were even weirder than the modern ones. At
 least the TMO has never promised to fly your soul up Uranus. :-)*
 The lunatic cult that history 
 forgothttp://www.salon.com/2011/11/11/the_lunatic_cult_that_history_forgot/singleton
  A
 new book tells the story of a bizarre British group that followed the
 teachings of a former mental patient


I don't find this strange at all.   What I found strange was having to get
your compass out before meditating.   Scraping your tongue, shaving,
slathering your body with oil all after eating your stewed apple.  Pulling
out your compass to figure out which direction to do asanas, pranayam,
meditation and the sidhis.  Making sure your head was ever in the right
direction when you rested or slept.   Having your food grown and prepared
by sidhas, transforming your food with special prayers before eating it.
Keeping track of the time so you could change the Ghandarva CD or tape at
just the right moment.  This was a real problem at night, since you tended
to sleep then.  Buy a timeshare on MIU or face certain demise.   Have a
pundit blow in your ear and then into a bottle of spring water, which
spring water you replenished before it emptied so the Woo Woo would
propagate from old to new water.  I sometimes wondered what would happen if
I poured the contents of the water into the toilet in New York City.  Would
there be giant, stoned alligators cured of some malady because the water
they swam in was infused with Woo Woo?Would all the marajuana growing
in the sewers the alligators fed off of grow with special qualities?
Would I be struck down by lightening if I smelled the flowers or blew out
the incense?   I could go on and on.

Re: [FairfieldLife] How's that 'Hopey-Changey' thing workin' out for ya?

[Tom Pall]

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 On 11/08/2011 08:53 AM, richardwillytexwilliams wrote:
  The unemployment rate for males between 25 and 34
  years old with high-school diplomas is 14.4%蓉p from
  6.1% before the downturn four years ago and far above
  today's 9% national rate. The picture is even more
  bleak for slightly younger men: 22.4% for high-school
  graduates 20 to 24 years old. That's up from 10.4%
  four years ago...
 
  'Generation Jobless: Young Men Suffer Worst as Economy Staggers'
  Wall Street Journal:
  http://tinyurl.com/bqd46lf

 It's the result of the previous 8 years of the Bush Crime Family and a
 program of the destruction of the US that began with Ronny Raygun.
 That's why the Republicons ran jokes for 2008 and will do so again in
 2012. They don't want the collapse on their watch. How's that workin'
 for ya, Bubba?


But our affirmative action president is not at all presidential.   There's
a lot a president can do just be uniting his people and inspiring them.   I
don't attribute our problems to polarization of the people.  I attribute
them to our president not being able to inspire people to go above and
beyond mere politics as usual with each side frozen in its own world view.
  OK, now without struggling and stuttering, take two minutes and tell us
what our president stands for and what vision of the future of America
Obama's united and inspired us with.

[FairfieldLife] Note even much of a mountain

[Tom Pall]

My GPS kept trying to get me into the Heavenly Mountain very heavily gated
community.   A workman drove up as I had left my car behind at the gate and
was hiking up.   He told me I needed to go to the mountain south of there
and my GPS, still trying to get me into the gated community took me the
Heavenly Mountain.

How ever underwhelming.   To think I'd spent years talking to Mothers
Divine from Heavenly Mountain on my private toll fee.   I had this vision
when I spoke on the phone that Heavenly Mountain was nothing much of
anything and actually not all that scenic.

Well, it is in the mountains.  But so was Cobb.   It was a very hazy day
and I'm imagine if you live in FF, these is perhaps Heaven.

I saw a lot of ru like vastu houses that had been converted into pretty
much off Appalachian *State* Universit campus housing.   The dorms had been
converted into apartments.  And interesting mostly college crowd.  The
dorms were run down.   The other buildings were in serious decay.   This is
just right for SSRS.   He and his advertise and hype to the hilt, but if
you're not a caretaker of a visiting teacher, SSRS appears to think that
living in buildings which would elsewhere be condemned is a righteous part
of the program.   Of course if your special, then

Re: [FairfieldLife] MERU GLOBAL WINTER ASSEMBLY

[Tom Pall]

I assume Maharishi's Supreme Blessings to Mankind consisted of giving us an
imaginary currency, an imaginary country, an imaginary king and prince and
then finally shuffling off?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MERU GLOBAL WINTER ASSEMBLY [2 Attachments]

[Tom Pall]

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:27 PM, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.comwrote:



 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom Pall thomas.pall@... wrote:
 
  I assume Maharishi's Supreme Blessings to Mankind consisted of giving us
 an
  imaginary currency, an imaginary country, an imaginary king and prince
 and
  then finally shuffling off?


 And in doing so, streching your silly little world to the limit.




Actually, I lived a silly world listening to and following the latest money
draw from His Holiness.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHY TM CAN'T BE LEARNED FROM A BOOK

[Tom Pall]

On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:




 On Nov 7, 2011, at 7:40 PM, feste37 wrote:

 Good question. I did TM for more than 30 years, but then about 7 or 8
 years ago, I lost the desire to do it. This happened quite quickly, as I
 recall, over a period of maybe a few months. I just no longer had any
 desire to meditate, so I stopped doing it and have never gone back to it.
 Having said that, I still think it's a good technique that can dramatically
 change people's lives for the better, especially in the first year or so of
 practice, although I don't think it accomplishes all that its most ardent
 advocates claim for it, especially over the long term.



 Interesting how certain, once pressing needs or desires, can just
 disappear, leaving no impulse to pursue them any longer.


So why do you think people seem to get diminishing returns with decades of
doing TM/TMSP?   It's all so exciting during the first few years of TM, the
first 2 advanced techniques, the first few years of the TMSP.I just
can't buy the argument that one's working on deeper and more extensive
stress/karma.   If that were so, every few years, at least, there's be a
lurch forward.  But this isn't.   Indeed people I know who come to IA for a
few months every year and go back home actually find their quality of life
degrading.   And yes, they pay $25-$50/EUR 25/EUR 50 to get frequent
checkings.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Domes Revisited

[Tom Pall]

I find that meditating/flying in the Mens Dome to be disruptive and
difficult.   There are all of these people, sucking my energy from me, all
this chaos in thoughts.  On CCC I always liked the second round which had
less people.   My sweetest problems were at places like the Navasota
Capital, with far few people or on weekend WPAs in Estes Park, Colorado.
I've also attended official residence courses, where the sidhas had to do
their programs in their rooms because we were on a residence course for
meditators.  These were also very sweet, very deep experiences.   Some of
the deepest experiences I've had with TM/TMSP were in Moore County, TN,
population something like 1500.   I've done program on top of Pikes Peak
and was so full of prana that I'd be blissed out and seeing blinding white
for days.  The domes?   Nah.   The 7000 course?  Well that was different,
but not especially deep.   On the Taste of Utopia you got sucked in.  I'd
hop without having to think my sutras, I'd have flavors of awareness
without having to think my sutras.I drove all the way to Burlington, IA
to do some shopping and didn't notice that power of the course wearing off
at that distance.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Obama's effigy finally surfaces at OWS.

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 9:45 AM, wgm4u anitaoak...@att.net wrote:

 I think we're finally beginning to get the picture, these same folks voted
 for Obama so they can't protest against him. Additionally he is subtly
 supporting them, costing local governments millions of dollars, merely for
 his political advantage.

 Obama has shown absolutely NO leadership on this issue and it's going to
 come tumbling down around him sooner or later, and rightly so!


 http://news.yahoo.com/photos/giant-effigy-u-president-obama-held-people-affiliated-photo-212714601.html


That is not an effigy.  That's a leftover from the Columbus Day parade.
And a good likeness of him.

Re: [FairfieldLife] WHY TM CAN'T BE LEARNED FROM A BOOK

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Sheeet.  Is that what brainwashing is?

 --
 *From:* johnt johnlasher20002...@yahoo.com
 *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, November 5, 2011 11:17 AM
 *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] WHY TM CAN'T BE LEARNED FROM A BOOK


 Why TM can't be learned from a book

 A TM initiation alters the brainwave pattern of the one performing the
 puja. When the teacher then passes on the mantra to the person learning
 meditation he also passes on a brainwave state by a process know in
 neurophysiology as entrainment. Brainwave entrainment or brainwave
 synchronization, is any practice that aims to cause brainwave frequencies
 to fall into step with a periodic stimulus having a frequency corresponding
 to the intended brain-state. This is only one of the Neuro effects of a TM
 initiation which is a very well crafted design of several which lead to a
 self transcending effect of the mantra.


Seems to me that anyone who would post such unsubstantiated Maharishi says
trash could easily be brainwashed with an enema.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: WHY TM CAN'T BE LEARNED FROM A BOOK

[Tom Pall]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:27 PM, jpgillam jpgil...@yahoo.com wrote:

 My most profound experience of the stilling
 power of the puja occurred when I was learning
 it on my TM teacher training course. One
 afternoon upon finishing my rounds I sang
 the puja as I sat on my bed. Afterward, I
 had intended to mentally review some other
 material I was memorizing, but I could not
 summon a thought. I was awake and alert, but
 I was mentally constipated. I just stared at
 the wall for a few minutes before I could get
 a thought to bubble up. That's when I realized
 that the purpose of the puja was to shift my
 center from my thoughts and feelings to the
 stillness of consciousness itself, which, by
 the way, is a good definition of a first stage
 of enlightenment.


I transcended during the puja and the initiator had to stop and wait for me
to come back.   I was gone for quite some time.   This was so memorable to
my initiator that when I made contact with him finally after all these
years he repeated asked Who are you?.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Cults Explained: self-deception improves your ability to deceive others

[Tom Pall]

I've learned there's something else which helps us deceive ourselves and
others:  child abuse.  I was severely physically and mentally abused not
only as a child but into my adolescent years, until I was old enough to
stand up to the abuse on my own.   When treated for PTSD, which was the
diagnosis for what I developed with the abuse, it was explained to me how I
had developed superior coping skills, especially since I did not develop a
splintered, dissociative personality.  Having learned Maharishi speak I had
to work to stop talking that way.  I'd say this arm hurts and had to
relearn to say my arm hurts.   The abuse made it a lot easier for me to
spend two long periods of my life in the closet.  First was as a very
conservative Roman Catholic.   I kept wavering between my logic and gut
feelings which told me that God couldn't have set up a universe based on a
2nd grader's concept of right and wrong.   All women must suffer during
child birth because of the original sin.  All babies needed to be baptized
after the Fall because of original sin else they'd go to Limbo, never to be
with God.  I could say a rosary for a departed soul and cut down the amount
of time they spent in Purgatory.   And of course, I already figured out
that God Can't Handle Money, so much for His omniscience and omnipotence.
It was a constant war of guilt and flip flop.  What if all these delusions
the nuns and priests taught me were true?   Naw, they couldn't be.  But
just by thinking and saying that, I was in peril.   Eventually I grew to
the point where I just said to Hell to it all, that this religious stuff is
just something made up assuming we stopped developing in second grade and
that millions of men and women supported themselves off of it for the past
two thousand years.   There was no such thing as a Chrismas Club.  It was
just a checking account that didn't pay interest.  And collecting money for
missions for pagan children wasn't a righteous thing.

Then came TM.  Shit made no sense at all.  TM made you so cosmic, so
untroubled, so happy, so flexible.   I have a charisma about me (loads of
Virgo) and I've ever been blown away that boys and girls, men and women
walk up to me out of the blue and just unburden their hearts on me.  So
many TM initiators unburden themselves to me that my logical mind said
this TM and this Maharishi guy really are all bullshit yet the constant
devotion others showed, the constant indoctrination and my wanting to
believe made me throw out a zinger now and then but nothing more.
Eventually I was treated for PTSD.  Then I went off to MUM to round for 6
months.   Took long walks alone in the evening being with myself.  Finally
I cast off the desire to believe, separated myself from the indoctrination
and the space, time and reality warping fields of the devout and I made my
decision about TM and Maharishi.  I kept it secret for some years, then
finally cast off my bondage.

Self delusion and the delusion of others is a good, evolutionary thing much
of the time.We need to hear about a plane crash, a train crash or a car
crash and believe it couldn't happen to us.  We needed to believe that God
was on our side, that we were something special.  There are stages in the
development of people and societies that make delusional thinking
necessary.  A good political leader, a good author, a good writer, a good
thinker moves us to places in human accomplishment we'd never have been
able to go.  As with other aspects of the higher level functioning of
humans there's the dark side.  We can kill others because they believe
wrongly.  We can engage in just wars, we can have popes, cardinals and
priests, rajas and raja rams ruling imaginary kingdoms and walking around
in drag, telling us how truly the world works.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Cults Explained: self-deception improves your ability to deceive others

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 7:43 AM, Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com wrote:


To the truly deluded ones on FFL.  Try to reign yourself in just this one
time and don't insult me by commenting something like if you had not
experienced this or that, Tom, you'd kiss my ass and worship me.   That's
as nonsensical and as insulting as saying, Tom, I'm so sorry you were born
with blond hair.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Occupy Fairfield

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 11:05 PM, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Looked good on my 53 set.  It was a little hard to find without an
 account.  I did a search finally on Wayside S and by then it came up
 in the listings though it didn't by searching the title.

 I've been talking about films shot with Digital SLR cameras and this was
 shot with two DSLRs (they're shown in the video).  One though could have
 used a little less depth of field because the park in the background
 became distracting.  One of the things that makes digital look like film
 is the ability to use focal length to bring out your subject.   Most
 lenses that come with video cameras don't have that feature or it is
 hard to use.  The other thing is that DSLR cameras are the first ones
 for under $1000 that you can shoot at 24fps film rate.

 Nice piece of work though.


Your toys are always so impressive.   And so much safer than going out an
actually engaging life.

[FairfieldLife] All for the love of Momma

[Tom Pall]

  Four brothers left home for college, and they became successful doctors
and lawyers and prospered. Some years later, they chatted after having
dinner together. They discussed the gifts they were able to give their
elderly mother who lived far away in another city.

The 1st said, I had a big house built for Mama.

The 2nd said, I had a $100,000 theatre built in the house.

The 3rd said, I had my Mercedes dealer deliver an SL600 to her.

The 4th said, You know how Mamma loved reading the Bible and you know she
can't read anymore, because she can't see very well. I met this preacher
who told me about a parrot that can recite the entire bible. It took 20
preachers 12 years to teach him. I had to pledge to contribute $100,000 a
year for 20 years to the church, but it was worth it. Mama just has to name
the chapter and verse and the parrot will recite it.
  The other brothers were impressed.




 *After the holidays Mama sent out Thank You notes. She wrote: **
*

  *Milton, the house you built is so huge I live in only one room, but I
have to clean the whole house. Thanks anyway.**
*
*Marvin, I am too old to travel. I stay home, I have my groceries
delivered, so I never use the Mercedes. But the thought was good. Thanks. **
*
*Michael, you gave me an expensive theatre with Dolby sound. It could hold
50 people, but all of my friends are dead, I've lost my hearing and I'm
nearly blind. I'll never use it. Thank you for the gesture just the same.**
*
*Dearest Melvin,  you were the only son to have the good sense to give a
little thought to your gift.. The chicken was delicious! Thank you!*

 * Luv Ya'll, Mama*

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Cults Explained: self-deception improves your ability to deceive others

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 10:51 AM, authfriend jst...@panix.com wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
 snip
  It's always been my experience -- especially on Internet chat
  groups -- that those who most often claim that others are
  lying or attempting to deceive others are the ones who seem
  to have the highest degree of self-deception going for them.
  They accuse others of lying to them because they're constantly
  lying to themselves, and thus assume that everyone else is
  constantly lying, too.

 Just out of curiosity...

 (1) How can you tell whether others lie to themselves?
 Is this a special ability only you possess, or might
 others be able to discern whether you lie to yourself?

 (2) Do you ever wonder about whether you lie to yourself?
 Or is it only other people's presumed self-deception that
 you're concerned with?

 (3) Could it be that you decide whether other people are
 lying to themselves on the basis of whether they accuse
 you of lying?

 (4) Is it possible to lie to oneself about whether one
 is lying to oneself?

 (5) Could it be that you are lying to yourself as to
 whether you lie to others?

 Interesting comment from the review of Trivers's book in
 Publishers Weekly:

 Even though our senses show us the truth of the world around
 us, our conscious minds often distort it: we project onto
 others traits that in fact characterize us; we repress painful
 memories, rationalize immoral behavior, and act repeatedly to
 boost self-opinion.

 [Sound like anyone we know on FFL?]

 But the costs of self-deception include the misapprehension of
 reality, especially social reality, and the possibility of making
 ourselves immune to the needs of others and ourselves.


Y yes, indeed, it does, now that you've pointed it out.   It best describes
someone who's quickest on the draw to Google, HuffPost, the FFL archives,
the thesaurus and the dictionary.  This particular member keeps score of
who's being irrational, illogical, self-contradicting.   Point of order,
your Honor.  This poster contradicted himself in FFL #xxyza in C.E. 2007.
I respectfully suggest that this Noble Court have the poster held in
contempt of logic, reason and consistency and at the very least, Your
Honor, be hung by the balls by this Honorable Court of pure reason and
bibliography.  .  This member takes refuge in the unerring TRUTH of
rationality, logic and a thorough set of footnotes.   Not at all living a
life of delusion, eh?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Global Peace Initiative Brochure

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 11:09 AM, shukra69 shukr...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 no Guru or Avatar living or past is as great as the one who created the
 possibility for this:

 http://www.globalpeaceinitiative.org/brochure/


Or P.T. Barnum

[FairfieldLife] Movie Review: Debbie Does Dallas

[Tom Pall]

This was my first and last adult movie.   The plot was kind of
interesting, in an existential sort of way.   The action is a bit lame.
I'm more impressed with the follow on anti-women lip, I mean lib cult movie
Debbie Does Dishes.

http://www.filmbrats.com/reviews/d/debbiedoesbyjon.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakras from me

[Tom Pall]

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:38 AM, shainm307 shainm...@yahoo.com wrote:

 What do you guys not know about the chakras?  I think Maharishi was
 missing something.  I need to know from you guys what you think it is
 because usually i get the anwswer from an outside source, like source or
 whevever it comes from but know im not getting the answers.  I had my dad
 talk to you guys yesterday, but now im doing it myself and i need to know
 im doing it myself.  What do you guys think is missing? My dad needs to
 learn something from you guys because i think his kundalini(spelling) is
 wrong too.  So is mine for instance, but I don;t think adjusting them
 everyday is the way to do it i think it has to do with more of being
 yourself.


Learning all about what Maharishi didn't teach about the chakras.
Sponsoring very heavy, very intense yagyas.  The others I'm sponsoring for
and I are going through some very rough stuff.  Stuff that's taken us to
ERs on 3 different continents.My specialty is the third chakra.  I have
to wait every day for just the right time for the pain, retching and
heaving to stop or subside long enough to chow down.   I've had about $20K
worth of tests done and my internist, who is the most highly regarded in
the area I'm in right now writes into his chart nervous stomach.  As luck
would have it, he practices Kundalini Yoga.  He tells me what's really
happening is blowing trash out of my 3rd chakra, an especially important
chakra for me as I suffered very powerful physical and emotional abuse as a
child till the age of 16.

I suspect Maharishi didn't talk about chakras because he truly did practice
Yogurt Lite.   We'd do a lifetime of meditation and the Begin laughter
sidhis /End laughter then eventually reconvene a few centuries in the
future to join into doing some serious work on our karma and consciousness.
   Maharishi's final words to Invincible: fine points about consciousness.
Nothing with respect to the subtle or gross body.  Perhaps this is because
Maharishi spent his life in denial.  His heart, kidneys, eyes, hearing and
peripheral nerves were destroyed by diabetes he refused to treat.   After a
while you start to wonder if his constant references to the neck, the
heart, the body weren't just for emphasis.  Perhaps he was happily trying
to be dissociated from his body.   BTW, SSRS says we don't drop the body.
The body drops us.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakras from me

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:




 On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Tom Pall wrote:

 I suspect Maharishi didn't talk about chakras because he truly did
 practice Yogurt Lite.   We'd do a lifetime of meditation and the Begin
 laughter sidhis /End laughter then eventually reconvene a few centuries
 in the future to join into doing some serious work on our karma and
 consciousness.Maharishi's final words to Invincible: fine points about
 consciousness.  Nothing with respect to the subtle or gross body.  Perhaps
 this is because Maharishi spent his life in denial.  His heart, kidneys,
 eyes, hearing and peripheral nerves were destroyed by diabetes he refused
 to treat.   After a while you start to wonder if his constant references to
 the neck, the heart, the body weren't just for emphasis.  Perhaps he
 was happily trying to be dissociated from his body.   BTW, SSRS says we
 don't drop the body.  The body drops us.



 It depends on the practitioner. It's not unusual to be trained in
 transferring the consciousness outside the body - and it's not unusual to
 find 'it works' before you ever die.

 ---

 An old and interesting account of learning phowa, transference of
 consciousness.

 Late in my life, I practised Pho-wa [transference; Skt.: saMkrAnti], an
 esoteric Tibetan technique for rebirth in the Pure Land, which had not been
 introduced in China before. The teaching is based on the principle that
 when someone who is due to be reborn in the Western Paradise is dying, his
 consciousness will leave through the Aperture of Brahma (in the top of his
 skull): thus one is taught to repeat mantras to open this aperture and to
 practise regularly so that one can follow a similar path at the moment of
 death. In 1933, when I was sixty-one, I had already received this Dharma
 from the Tibetan guru No Na who had urged me to practise it at home
 (which I did) unsuccessfully. In the spring of 1937, when I was
 sixty-five, I heard that the guru Sheng Lu was teaching this Dharma in Nanking
 and that all those participating in the four previous meetings had
 succeeded in opening the Aperture of Brahma. As the fifth and last meeting
 was soon to take place at the Vairochana temple, I went to Nanking and put
 my name down to attend it.

 I arrived on the first of April to receive the initiation, which was very
 much more complicated than the one previously given me by the guru No Na. I
 was taught a vajra mantra as the first step in the practice. It was not a
 long one but the method of visualization was very elaborate. It had to be
 repeated one hundred thousand times, but since I had only a few days at my
 disposal, I did so as many times as I could.

 After the first day, I stayed in a lodging house and closed the door of my
 room to concentrate on repeating the mantra. Before midday on the ninth, I
 had done so sixty-two thousand times, and in the afternoon I returned to
 the Vairocana temple where thirty-nine of us assembled. I was told that
 this was considerably more than at any ofthe other four gatherings. The
 guru shaved a small hairless circle in the centre of my crown so that later
 he could sec if the Aperture of Brahma had opened in order to plant a stalk
 in it.

 On the tenth we began to isolate ourselves for meditation. In the main
 hall an altar was set up with all its majesty, before which the guru led us
 to practise the Dharma. Every day there were four sessions each lasting two
 hours. The practice consisted in visualizing Amitayus Buddha sitting on the
 top of the head and in imagining in the body a blue psychic tube which was
 red inside and stretched from the crown of the head to the perineum. Within
 this tube in the lower belly below the navel was a bright pearl which rose
 (up it) to the heart (centre). (When the pearl was visualized in that
 centre) I shouted the mantric syllable HIK, forcing up the pearl which
 followed the sound and thrust through the Aperture of Brahma to reach the
 heart of Amitayus. Then I whispered the syllable GA which caused the pearl
 to descend from the Buddha's heart and return through the opening to my
 lower belly. At each session we shouted with such force that we became
 hoarse and exhausted, and dripped perspiration although it was still very
 cold. Seeing that we were tired, the guru chanted in Sanskrit and exhorted
 us to follow his example and relax. This we did four or five times in each
 two hour session.

 Now I was already experienced in (the art of) meditation and had cleared
 the central psychic passage (in the spine) so that I made remarkable
 progress on the eleventh. During the first session a red light shone from
 the crown of my head and (I seemed) to grow taller. In the fourth session,
 I felt (as if) the Aperture of Brahma was being bored through by a
 sharp-pointed tool and was repeatedly hit by the ascending pearl. When I
 went to bed a great white light shone from my head.

 On the twelfth I practised

Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakras from me

[Tom Pall]

On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:




 On Nov 6, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Tom Pall wrote:

 Vaj, this is kind of long but very amusing.I think in my spare time
 I'm going to take my imagination to the gates of Hell and practice tugging
 on them.   Perhaps with sufficient practice I'll be able to tug them open
 with my intention.   We'll know when there are all these astral bats flying
 out of Hell that I succeeded.


 Or you start running through the streets yelling Hail Cthulhu!?

 Interestingly, as eastern ideas have found a more accepting home in the
 west, even Christians are practicing the yogic transference at death -
 albeit to their own conception of the Jesus-dimension.



Even more interesting is that spirit/soul/consciousness/whatever, enters
the ?subtle? body through a specific part of the physical body, lives and
flows through specific parts of the physical body and eventually exits thru
a specific part of the body.   And of course that Heaven is up, Hell is
down.   What a problem for those who live on the other side of the globe.
Those people are living in my Hell.  Then again, I'm living in theirs.  I
guess Hell is also where we transcend to, since the bubble diagram has us
going down.

I'm inspired.  I'm going to take the lampshade off and turn the light on
and off.  Maybe I'll be able to catch just which direction the light exists
the bulb.   Vaj, you post some interesting and insightful things at times.
At other times, fairy tales.

Oh, why did the guru need to have his disciples come to the window where
there was light so he could see the aperture?   This aperture was really
someone the guru could only see in the light?How did his disciples keep
their brains in?