Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.

2013-12-06 Thread Richard J. Williams

Or, does the real Toby know you're posting here under his name?

On 12/5/2013 7:53 PM, Toby Walker wrote:

maybe?


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Richard J. Williams 
pundits...@gmail.com mailto:pundits...@gmail.com wrote:


Are you the famous Toby Walker?


On 12/5/2013 2:08 PM, Toby Walker wrote:

Oh this is great! lol!


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:49 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com
mailto:awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@...
mailto:authfriend@... wrote:

See Barry. See Barry stalk Judy. Stalk, stalk, stalk. Nothing
new here; move along, folks.


I wrote:

 Buck, reflect a minute. What makes you think I stalk?


Barry replied:


 You mean, other than the fact that you're doing it right
now?  :-)


 When you go out of your way to write a post dumping on the
person you've been dumping on consistently for nearly twenty
years, about whom you've written literally thousands of posts
dumping on him, you're stalking.


You mean, the way you've gone out of your way to write posts
dumping on me and have done relentlessly for nearly twenty
years over thousands of posts, and are doing right now?
That's what you mean by stalking, what you've been spending
most of your time on the Web doing to me and many others ever
since I've known you?


 Get over your self-delusions, honey...you're a stalker.


Well, that's an interesting definition. Trouble is, it
applies to you far more than it does to me. You da
talker-in-chief, sweet cheeks.


I didn't go out of my way to write the post, BTW. As you
know, I was responding to Buck.


If I'm a stalker according to your new definition, at least
I'm an honest stalker. You are a viciously malicious,
profoundly and consistently dishonest stalker. That was (as
you know) my point to Buck. We'll see a demonstration in the
very next paragraphs:


 You even stalked Curtis recently when one of your former
minions said he liked him, and he hasn't been here since August:


You mean, after Dr. Dumbass responded to one of your long
dump-on-Judy rants that fawned over Curtis? In which he said
he liked Curtis but found him emotionally duplicitous, and
I agreed? Because that's the post of mine you're quoting,
along with my follow-up:


Curtis, in stark contrast, went to considerable lengths to
hide his emotional duplicity.


To be a little more specific, if I may: Curtis pretended to
be comfortable with who he was, as Barry puts it. But that
was a carefully constructed facade, and it took very little
in the way of chipping to expose the real Curtis underneath. 


*You went on to stalk Dr. Dumbass for what he had said about
Curtis, and in that post added Robin to your list of stalkees
for the day--Robin, who hadn't been here since early April.*

*
*

*Did you think I wasn't going to provide the context you
dishonestly left out? (And it was obviously deliberate
dishonesty, folks, since he had actually looked up the posts
in question.)*

*
*

*If anybody would like to verify what I just wrote, let me
know and I'll provide the URLs to the posts.*

*
*

*As I said in a post a couple of days ago, Barry doesn't have
the wherewithal to make an honest case. He'd have to refrain
from stalking if he had to be honest, because he'd have
nothing to say.*


 Stalking is just what you DO, Judy. Everyone here knows
this but you.


*Says the Master Stalker of FFL.*

*
*

*Your hypocrisy is unparalleled. It's stupefying. And that's
giving you the benefit of the doubt, because if you really
believe what you're saying, you're insane, completely out of
touch with reality.*

*
*

*Now, how do you explain your claim that I have stalked you
from forum to forum?*

*
*

*(See, Barry has switched definitions. Before, he meant
stalking in the standard sense of following someone around,
as in his claim above. But now he's using it as a synonym for
dumping on.)*

*
*

*How about explaining the fact that you were stalking me on
FFL before I even arrived here?*

*
*

*I can find the URLs for those posts as well if anyone is
interested.*

*
*

*I swear to God, interacting with Barry is like being in a
hall of funhouse mirrors. Everything he says is warped,
twisted, turned 

[FairfieldLife] Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.

2013-12-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Buck, reflect a minute. What makes you think I stalk?

You mean, other than the fact that you're doing it right now?  :-)

When you go out of your way to write a post dumping on the person you've
been dumping on consistently for nearly twenty years, about whom you've
written literally thousands of posts dumping on him, you're stalking.
Get over your self-delusions, honey...you're a stalker

You even stalked Curtis recently when one of your former minions said he
liked him, and he hasn't been here since August:

  Curtis, in stark contrast, went to considerable lengths to hide his
emotional duplicity.

To be a little more specific, if I may: Curtis pretended to  be
comfortable with who he was, as Barry puts it. But that was a 
carefully constructed facade, and it took very little in the way of 
chipping to expose the real Curtis underneath. 

Stalking is just what you DO, Judy. Everyone here knows this but you.

  I'll tell you: Because that's what Barry has said that I do, over and
over. He claims I've stalked him from forum to forum. That is
factually untrue. Of the four forums we've been on together, one
(alt.m.t) I joined before I had ever encountered him; two I joined
before he did; and the fourth, FFL, he Invited me to join, along with
other members of alt.m.t.

  So what does that  make Barry, Buck?

  I could go on and on listing the things Barry has said about me (and
others) that were simply factually false, and that he knows were false.
Literally hundreds of things.

  And he's not the only one, he's just the worst.

  If all you do is take little peeks here and there, you really do not
have a clear idea of what goes on here. Neither does Rick, for that
matter.

  Error of thought, a weak mind, or some natural vagueness in
conversation is not what I'm referring to by lying. I mean deliberate
and malicious misstatements of fact.

  I'll tell you something else. It is *vanishingly* unlikely that Yahoo
is going to storm in here and shut FFL down because of some squabbling.
Yahoo doesn't have the time or the interest to monitor millions of
groups for ad hominem or unkindness. Or lying, for that matter. If
you're genuinely concerned that might happen, you can stop worrying.
Yahoo is not going to enforce the guidelines. They're not much more
than a gesture, a formality. They can use the guidelines if they need to
dump someone who is *really* seriously misbehaving in a way nobody on
FFL even comes close to doing, *including* Barry, obnoxious and vicious
as he is. But even that is unlikely.

  And Rick has time only to handle the worst infractions of the actual
FFL *rules*--about pornography and outing the identity of members who
wish to remain anonymous. That's why Ravi was dumped this time around
(and the time before that); he outed someone the first time and
threatened to do so the second time. Not because he was unkind.

  Feste's critique was nonsense, by the way. You apparently read it
but not my response. He was trying to protect someone he likes who has a
propensity to be untruthful, IMO.

  What I *wish* were the case here is that people would not be so
tolerant of deliberate dishonesty, that they would express strong
disapproval of anyone who engages in it. Social sanctions of that sort,
if consistent, would do more for the tone of this forum than all your
bombast, Buck. Malicious dishonesty breeds disrespect of others
generally. If telling deliberate falsehoods about other people is OK,
then what isn't OK? To expect people to be kind to a person who attacks
them repeatedly with falsehoods and lies is a little too much to expect.
We aren't saints here.

  I appreciate your willingness to speak to me for a change, Buck. But
from what you say, I don't think you have anything more than a very
superficial impression of the interpersonal dynamics of FFL. I can't
hope to give you an in-depth course to catch you up on what you've
missed. You'd have to decide to start paying close attention to the
traffic here.

  I wrote:

  How about the lying? You never mention the lying, Buck. Does that
mean you think it's OK to lie?

  Buck wrote:

  Buck's interest is more narrowly the endurance and survival of FFL as
a community given these newer Yahoo-groups management guidelines that
clearly supersede Rick's “almost anything goes” FFL
guidelines. That old FFL guideline is the rot-in-ist damn pin holding
FFL to be the unkind place it has become from the moment Rick tried it.
  I have not been following your attempt at equivalence other than the
message view of posts. Feste a while back had a fair critique of it.
Like as Rick in skipping posts from you and others as soon as they show
themselves just to be personal bickering between you and others I save
time too. You have over a hundred posts so far this week and I don't
have much of a clue what you write other than in message view or what
shows up in other posts as replies from other people.

  You are 

[FairfieldLife] Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.

2013-12-05 Thread authfriend
See Barry. See Barry stalk Judy. Stalk, stalk, stalk. Nothing new here; move 
along, folks.
 

 I wrote:
  Buck, reflect a minute. What makes you think I stalk? 
 

 Barry replied:
 

  You mean, other than the fact that you're doing it right now?  :-)
 

  When you go out of your way to write a post dumping on the person you've 
  been dumping on consistently for nearly twenty years, about whom you've 
  written literally thousands of posts dumping on him, you're stalking.
 

 You mean, the way you've gone out of your way to write posts dumping on me and 
have done relentlessly for nearly twenty years over thousands of posts, and are 
doing right now? That's what you mean by stalking, what you've been spending 
most of your time on the Web doing to me and many others ever since I've known 
you?
 

  Get over your self-delusions, honey...you're a stalker.
 

 Well, that's an interesting definition. Trouble is, it applies to you far more 
than it does to me. You da talker-in-chief, sweet cheeks.
 

 I didn't go out of my way to write the post, BTW. As you know, I was 
responding to Buck.
 

 If I'm a stalker according to your new definition, at least I'm an honest 
stalker. You are a viciously malicious, profoundly and consistently dishonest 
stalker. That was (as you know) my point to Buck. We'll see a demonstration in 
the very next paragraphs:
 

  You even stalked Curtis recently when one of your former minions said he 
  liked him, and he hasn't been here since August:
 

 You mean, after Dr. Dumbass responded to one of your long dump-on-Judy rants 
that fawned over Curtis? In which he said he liked Curtis but found him 
emotionally duplicitous, and I agreed? Because that's the post of mine you're 
quoting, along with my follow-up:
 

 Curtis, in stark contrast, went to considerable lengths to hide his emotional 
duplicity.
 

 To be a little more specific, if I may: Curtis pretended to be comfortable 
with who he was, as Barry puts it. But that was a carefully constructed facade, 
and it took very little in the way of chipping to expose the real Curtis 
underneath. 
 

 You went on to stalk Dr. Dumbass for what he had said about Curtis, and in 
that post added Robin to your list of stalkees for the day--Robin, who hadn't 
been here since early April.
 

 Did you think I wasn't going to provide the context you dishonestly left out? 
(And it was obviously deliberate dishonesty, folks, since he had actually 
looked up the posts in question.)
 

 If anybody would like to verify what I just wrote, let me know and I'll 
provide the URLs to the posts.
 

 As I said in a post a couple of days ago, Barry doesn't have the wherewithal 
to make an honest case. He'd have to refrain from stalking if he had to be 
honest, because he'd have nothing to say.
 

  Stalking is just what you DO, Judy. Everyone here knows this but you.
 

 Says the Master Stalker of FFL.
 

 Your hypocrisy is unparalleled. It's stupefying. And that's giving you the 
benefit of the doubt, because if you really believe what you're saying, you're 
insane, completely out of touch with reality.
 

 Now, how do you explain your claim that I have stalked you from forum to 
forum?
 

 (See, Barry has switched definitions. Before, he meant stalking in the 
standard sense of following someone around, as in his claim above. But now he's 
using it as a synonym for dumping on.)
 

 How about explaining the fact that you were stalking me on FFL before I even 
arrived here?
 

 I can find the URLs for those posts as well if anyone is interested.
 

 I swear to God, interacting with Barry is like being in a hall of funhouse 
mirrors. Everything he says is warped, twisted, turned inside-out and 
upside-down. And the older he becomes, the worse it gets. It's hard to imagine 
that he genuinely thinks anybody believes him, but it's even harder to 
understand why he would constantly spout such obviously dishonest crap if he 
didn't.
 

 I wrote to Buck:
  I'll tell you: Because that's what Barry has said that I do, over and over. 
  He claims I've stalked him from forum to forum. That is factually untrue. 
  Of the four forums we've been on together, one (alt.m.t) I joined before I 
  had ever encountered him; two I joined before he did; and the fourth, FFL, 
  he Invited me to join, along with other members of alt.m.t. 
  
  So what does that make Barry, Buck? 
  
  I could go on and on listing the things Barry has said about me (and others) 
  that were simply factually false, and that he knows were false. Literally 
  hundreds of things. 
 



[FairfieldLife] Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.

2013-12-05 Thread awoelflebater


 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 See Barry. See Barry stalk Judy. Stalk, stalk, stalk. Nothing new here; move 
along, folks.
 

 I wrote:
  Buck, reflect a minute. What makes you think I stalk? 
 

 Barry replied:
 

  You mean, other than the fact that you're doing it right now?  :-)
 

  When you go out of your way to write a post dumping on the person you've 
  been dumping on consistently for nearly twenty years, about whom you've 
  written literally thousands of posts dumping on him, you're stalking.
 
 
 You mean, the way you've gone out of your way to write posts dumping on me and 
have done relentlessly for nearly twenty years over thousands of posts, and are 
doing right now? That's what you mean by stalking, what you've been spending 
most of your time on the Web doing to me and many others ever since I've known 
you?
 

  Get over your self-delusions, honey...you're a stalker.
 
 
 Well, that's an interesting definition. Trouble is, it applies to you far more 
than it does to me. You da talker-in-chief, sweet cheeks.
 

 I didn't go out of my way to write the post, BTW. As you know, I was 
responding to Buck.
 

 If I'm a stalker according to your new definition, at least I'm an honest 
stalker. You are a viciously malicious, profoundly and consistently dishonest 
stalker. That was (as you know) my point to Buck. We'll see a demonstration in 
the very next paragraphs:
 

  You even stalked Curtis recently when one of your former minions said he 
  liked him, and he hasn't been here since August:
 
 
 You mean, after Dr. Dumbass responded to one of your long dump-on-Judy rants 
that fawned over Curtis? In which he said he liked Curtis but found him 
emotionally duplicitous, and I agreed? Because that's the post of mine you're 
quoting, along with my follow-up:
 

 Curtis, in stark contrast, went to considerable lengths to hide his emotional 
duplicity.
 

 To be a little more specific, if I may: Curtis pretended to be comfortable 
with who he was, as Barry puts it. But that was a carefully constructed facade, 
and it took very little in the way of chipping to expose the real Curtis 
underneath. 
 

 You went on to stalk Dr. Dumbass for what he had said about Curtis, and in 
that post added Robin to your list of stalkees for the day--Robin, who hadn't 
been here since early April.
 

 Did you think I wasn't going to provide the context you dishonestly left out? 
(And it was obviously deliberate dishonesty, folks, since he had actually 
looked up the posts in question.)
 

 If anybody would like to verify what I just wrote, let me know and I'll 
provide the URLs to the posts.
 

 As I said in a post a couple of days ago, Barry doesn't have the wherewithal 
to make an honest case. He'd have to refrain from stalking if he had to be 
honest, because he'd have nothing to say.
 

  Stalking is just what you DO, Judy. Everyone here knows this but you.
 
 
 Says the Master Stalker of FFL.
 

 Your hypocrisy is unparalleled. It's stupefying. And that's giving you the 
benefit of the doubt, because if you really believe what you're saying, you're 
insane, completely out of touch with reality.
 

 Now, how do you explain your claim that I have stalked you from forum to 
forum?
 

 (See, Barry has switched definitions. Before, he meant stalking in the 
standard sense of following someone around, as in his claim above. But now he's 
using it as a synonym for dumping on.)
 

 How about explaining the fact that you were stalking me on FFL before I even 
arrived here?
 

 I can find the URLs for those posts as well if anyone is interested.
 

 I swear to God, interacting with Barry is like being in a hall of funhouse 
mirrors. Everything he says is warped, twisted, turned inside-out and 
upside-down. And the older he becomes, the worse it gets. It's hard to imagine 
that he genuinely thinks anybody believes him, but it's even harder to 
understand why he would constantly spout such obviously dishonest crap if he 
didn't.
 

 Like I said once before and I still stand by it, Barry is a freak of nature.
 

 I wrote to Buck:
  I'll tell you: Because that's what Barry has said that I do, over and over. 
  He claims I've stalked him from forum to forum. That is factually untrue. 
  Of the four forums we've been on together, one (alt.m.t) I joined before I 
  had ever encountered him; two I joined before he did; and the fourth, FFL, 
  he Invited me to join, along with other members of alt.m.t. 
  
  So what does that make Barry, Buck? 
  
  I could go on and on listing the things Barry has said about me (and others) 
  that were simply factually false, and that he knows were false. Literally 
  hundreds of things. 
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.

2013-12-05 Thread Toby Walker
Oh this is great! lol!


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:49 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:






 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

 See Barry. See Barry stalk Judy. Stalk, stalk, stalk. Nothing new here;
 move along, folks.


 I wrote:

  Buck, reflect a minute. What makes you think I stalk?


 Barry replied:


  You mean, other than the fact that you're doing it right now?  :-)


  When you go out of your way to write a post dumping on the person you've
 been dumping on consistently for nearly twenty years, about whom you've
 written literally thousands of posts dumping on him, you're stalking.


 You mean, the way you've gone out of your way to write posts dumping on me
 and have done relentlessly for nearly twenty years over thousands of posts,
 and are doing right now? That's what you mean by stalking, what you've
 been spending most of your time on the Web doing to me and many others ever
 since I've known you?


  Get over your self-delusions, honey...you're a stalker.


 Well, that's an interesting definition. Trouble is, it applies to you far
 more than it does to me. You da talker-in-chief, sweet cheeks.


 I didn't go out of my way to write the post, BTW. As you know, I was
 responding to Buck.


 If I'm a stalker according to your new definition, at least I'm an
 honest stalker. You are a viciously malicious, profoundly and consistently
 dishonest stalker. That was (as you know) my point to Buck. We'll see a
 demonstration in the very next paragraphs:


  You even stalked Curtis recently when one of your former minions said he
 liked him, and he hasn't been here since August:


 You mean, after Dr. Dumbass responded to one of your long dump-on-Judy
 rants that fawned over Curtis? In which he said he liked Curtis but found
 him emotionally duplicitous, and I agreed? Because that's the post of
 mine you're quoting, along with my follow-up:


 Curtis, in stark contrast, went to considerable lengths to hide his
 emotional duplicity.


 To be a little more specific, if I may: Curtis pretended to be
 comfortable with who he was, as Barry puts it. But that was a carefully
 constructed facade, and it took very little in the way of chipping to
 expose the real Curtis underneath. 


 *You went on to stalk Dr. Dumbass for what he had said about Curtis, and
 in that post added Robin to your list of stalkees for the day--Robin, who
 hadn't been here since early April.*


 *Did you think I wasn't going to provide the context you dishonestly left
 out? (And it was obviously deliberate dishonesty, folks, since he had
 actually looked up the posts in question.)*


 *If anybody would like to verify what I just wrote, let me know and I'll
 provide the URLs to the posts.*


 *As I said in a post a couple of days ago, Barry doesn't have the
 wherewithal to make an honest case. He'd have to refrain from stalking if
 he had to be honest, because he'd have nothing to say.*


  Stalking is just what you DO, Judy. Everyone here knows this but you.


 *Says the Master Stalker of FFL.*


 *Your hypocrisy is unparalleled. It's stupefying. And that's giving you
 the benefit of the doubt, because if you really believe what you're saying,
 you're insane, completely out of touch with reality.*


 *Now, how do you explain your claim that I have stalked you from forum to
 forum?*


 *(See, Barry has switched definitions. Before, he meant stalking in the
 standard sense of following someone around, as in his claim above. But now
 he's using it as a synonym for dumping on.)*


 *How about explaining the fact that you were stalking me on FFL before I
 even arrived here?*


 *I can find the URLs for those posts as well if anyone is interested.*


 *I swear to God, interacting with Barry is like being in a hall of
 funhouse mirrors. Everything he says is warped, twisted, turned inside-out
 and upside-down. And the older he becomes, the worse it gets. It's hard to
 imagine that he genuinely thinks anybody believes him, but it's even harder
 to understand why he would constantly spout such obviously dishonest crap
 if he didn't.*


  Like I said once before and I still stand by it, Barry is a freak of
 nature.


 *I wrote to Buck:*

  I'll tell you: Because that's what Barry has said that I do, over and
 over. He claims I've stalked him from forum to forum. That is factually
 untrue. Of the four forums we've been on together, one (alt.m.t) I joined
 before I had ever encountered him; two I joined before he did; and the
 fourth, FFL, he Invited me to join, along with other members of alt.m.t.

 

  So what does that make Barry, Buck?

 

  I could go on and on listing the things Barry has said about me (and
 others) that were simply factually false, and that he knows were false.
 Literally hundreds of things.

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: The Vivid and Present Threat of Hooliganism on Fairfield Life.

2013-12-05 Thread Richard J. Williams

Are you the famous Toby Walker?

On 12/5/2013 2:08 PM, Toby Walker wrote:

Oh this is great! lol!


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:49 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com 
mailto:awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:





---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... wrote:

See Barry. See Barry stalk Judy. Stalk, stalk, stalk. Nothing new
here; move along, folks.


I wrote:

 Buck, reflect a minute. What makes you think I stalk?


Barry replied:


 You mean, other than the fact that you're doing it right now?  :-)


 When you go out of your way to write a post dumping on the
person you've been dumping on consistently for nearly twenty
years, about whom you've written literally thousands of posts
dumping on him, you're stalking.


You mean, the way you've gone out of your way to write posts
dumping on me and have done relentlessly for nearly twenty years
over thousands of posts, and are doing right now? That's what you
mean by stalking, what you've been spending most of your time on
the Web doing to me and many others ever since I've known you?


 Get over your self-delusions, honey...you're a stalker.


Well, that's an interesting definition. Trouble is, it applies to
you far more than it does to me. You da talker-in-chief, sweet cheeks.


I didn't go out of my way to write the post, BTW. As you know, I
was responding to Buck.


If I'm a stalker according to your new definition, at least I'm
an honest stalker. You are a viciously malicious, profoundly and
consistently dishonest stalker. That was (as you know) my point to
Buck. We'll see a demonstration in the very next paragraphs:


 You even stalked Curtis recently when one of your former minions
said he liked him, and he hasn't been here since August:


You mean, after Dr. Dumbass responded to one of your long
dump-on-Judy rants that fawned over Curtis? In which he said he
liked Curtis but found him emotionally duplicitous, and I
agreed? Because that's the post of mine you're quoting, along with
my follow-up:


Curtis, in stark contrast, went to considerable lengths to hide
his emotional duplicity.


To be a little more specific, if I may: Curtis pretended to be
comfortable with who he was, as Barry puts it. But that was a
carefully constructed facade, and it took very little in the way
of chipping to expose the real Curtis underneath. 


*You went on to stalk Dr. Dumbass for what he had said about
Curtis, and in that post added Robin to your list of stalkees for
the day--Robin, who hadn't been here since early April.*

*
*

*Did you think I wasn't going to provide the context you
dishonestly left out? (And it was obviously deliberate dishonesty,
folks, since he had actually looked up the posts in question.)*

*
*

*If anybody would like to verify what I just wrote, let me know
and I'll provide the URLs to the posts.*

*
*

*As I said in a post a couple of days ago, Barry doesn't have the
wherewithal to make an honest case. He'd have to refrain from
stalking if he had to be honest, because he'd have nothing to say.*


 Stalking is just what you DO, Judy. Everyone here knows this but
you.


*Says the Master Stalker of FFL.*

*
*

*Your hypocrisy is unparalleled. It's stupefying. And that's
giving you the benefit of the doubt, because if you really believe
what you're saying, you're insane, completely out of touch with
reality.*

*
*

*Now, how do you explain your claim that I have stalked you from
forum to forum?*

*
*

*(See, Barry has switched definitions. Before, he meant stalking
in the standard sense of following someone around, as in his claim
above. But now he's using it as a synonym for dumping on.)*

*
*

*How about explaining the fact that you were stalking me on FFL
before I even arrived here?*

*
*

*I can find the URLs for those posts as well if anyone is interested.*

*
*

*I swear to God, interacting with Barry is like being in a hall of
funhouse mirrors. Everything he says is warped, twisted, turned
inside-out and upside-down. And the older he becomes, the worse it
gets. It's hard to imagine that he genuinely thinks anybody
believes him, but it's even harder to understand why he would
constantly spout such obviously dishonest crap if he didn't.*

*
*

Like I said once before and I still stand by it, Barry is a freak
of nature.

*
*

*I wrote to Buck:*

 I'll tell you: Because that's what Barry has said that I do,
over and over. He claims I've stalked him from forum to forum.
That is factually untrue. Of the four forums we've been on
together, one (alt.m.t) I joined before I had ever encountered
him; two I joined before 

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2013-12-05 Thread Toby Walker
maybe?


On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.comwrote:



 Are you the famous Toby Walker?


 On 12/5/2013 2:08 PM, Toby Walker wrote:


 Oh this is great! lol!


 On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 10:49 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:






 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend@... authfriend@...wrote:

   See Barry. See Barry stalk Judy. Stalk, stalk, stalk. Nothing new
 here; move along, folks.


  I wrote:

  Buck, reflect a minute. What makes you think I stalk?


  Barry replied:


You mean, other than the fact that you're doing it right now?  :-)


   When you go out of your way to write a post dumping on the person
 you've been dumping on consistently for nearly twenty years, about whom
 you've written literally thousands of posts dumping on him, you're stalking.


  You mean, the way you've gone out of your way to write posts dumping on
 me and have done relentlessly for nearly twenty years over thousands of
 posts, and are doing right now? That's what you mean by stalking, what
 you've been spending most of your time on the Web doing to me and many
 others ever since I've known you?


Get over your self-delusions, honey...you're a stalker.


  Well, that's an interesting definition. Trouble is, it applies to you
 far more than it does to me. You da talker-in-chief, sweet cheeks.


  I didn't go out of my way to write the post, BTW. As you know, I was
 responding to Buck.


  If I'm a stalker according to your new definition, at least I'm an
 honest stalker. You are a viciously malicious, profoundly and consistently
 dishonest stalker. That was (as you know) my point to Buck. We'll see a
 demonstration in the very next paragraphs:


You even stalked Curtis recently when one of your former minions
 said he liked him, and he hasn't been here since August:


  You mean, after Dr. Dumbass responded to one of your long dump-on-Judy
 rants that fawned over Curtis? In which he said he liked Curtis but found
 him emotionally duplicitous, and I agreed? Because that's the post of
 mine you're quoting, along with my follow-up:


  Curtis, in stark contrast, went to considerable lengths to hide his
 emotional duplicity.


  To be a little more specific, if I may: Curtis pretended to be
 comfortable with who he was, as Barry puts it. But that was a carefully
 constructed facade, and it took very little in the way of chipping to
 expose the real Curtis underneath. 


  *You went on to stalk Dr. Dumbass for what he had said about Curtis,
 and in that post added Robin to your list of stalkees for the day--Robin,
 who hadn't been here since early April.*


  *Did you think I wasn't going to provide the context you dishonestly
 left out? (And it was obviously deliberate dishonesty, folks, since he had
 actually looked up the posts in question.)*


  *If anybody would like to verify what I just wrote, let me know and
 I'll provide the URLs to the posts.*


  *As I said in a post a couple of days ago, Barry doesn't have the
 wherewithal to make an honest case. He'd have to refrain from stalking if
 he had to be honest, because he'd have nothing to say.*


Stalking is just what you DO, Judy. Everyone here knows this but you.


  *Says the Master Stalker of FFL.*


  *Your hypocrisy is unparalleled. It's stupefying. And that's giving you
 the benefit of the doubt, because if you really believe what you're saying,
 you're insane, completely out of touch with reality.*


  *Now, how do you explain your claim that I have stalked you from forum
 to forum?*


  *(See, Barry has switched definitions. Before, he meant stalking in
 the standard sense of following someone around, as in his claim above. But
 now he's using it as a synonym for dumping on.)*


  *How about explaining the fact that you were stalking me on FFL
 before I even arrived here?*


  *I can find the URLs for those posts as well if anyone is interested.*


  *I swear to God, interacting with Barry is like being in a hall of
 funhouse mirrors. Everything he says is warped, twisted, turned inside-out
 and upside-down. And the older he becomes, the worse it gets. It's hard to
 imagine that he genuinely thinks anybody believes him, but it's even harder
 to understand why he would constantly spout such obviously dishonest crap
 if he didn't.*


   Like I said once before and I still stand by it, Barry is a freak of
 nature.


  *I wrote to Buck:*

  I'll tell you: Because that's what Barry has said that I do, over and
 over. He claims I've stalked him from forum to forum. That is factually
 untrue. Of the four forums we've been on together, one (alt.m.t) I joined
 before I had ever encountered him; two I joined before he did; and the
 fourth, FFL, he Invited me to join, along with other members of alt.m.t.

 

  So what does that make Barry, Buck?

 

  I could go on and on listing the things Barry has said about me (and
 others) that were simply factually false, and that he knows were false.
 Literally 

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2013-12-03 Thread authfriend
How about the liars, Buck? Lying about other members of the community is the 
worst sort of unkindness there is, yet you never mention it.
 



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2013-11-27 Thread authfriend
How about liars, Buck? Do you feel liars are perfectly acceptable on FFL and in 
civil society generally? Society has no need to protect itself from liars, 
right?
 
Buck wrote:
 
  Banishment, has its place in civil society to protect society. In protecting 
  the 
  larger right of any civil community to exist it certainly is why societies 
  remove asocial types from society.