Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A friend's response to Bird Flu - Healthy News Article from Mercola.com
on 11/16/05 7:58 AM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> From Wikipedia, on Y2K. >> >> In the end, significant disasters such as nuclear reactor > meltdowns or >> plane crashes did not occur, but the number of non-critical Y2K > errors >> encountered on January 1, 2000 was extensive. Due to the lack of >> disasters and the faulty "end of the world" expectations, the > public >> largely, but perhaps wrongly, regarded the Y2K passage as a non- > event.>>> > > It was not an issue. A few computers may have blinked, with or > without the intervention. Sounds like an opinion to me. Can you back it up with facts or statements from an authoritative source? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend's response to Bird Flu - Healthy News Article from Mercola.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Nonsense. Y2k bug never was. You can try to justify your previous > > > faith in it, but there never was a threat. > > > > > > Bird flu will all blow over in less than a year, and when it does > > > you will be stuck with the name in your brain"Off_world_beings". > > Like Y2K, the bird flu issue is most certainly real, though the hype > about it may not be - the question is how lethal the mutated strain > that can pass from human to human will be. I wasn't worried about Y2K > because I saw the world markets weren't in Dec, 1999 - not that the > problem never existed but that corporations had adequately dealt with > it to avoid major problems. Still a little early for financial > markets to react to bird flu. > > From Wikipedia, on Y2K. > > In the end, significant disasters such as nuclear reactor meltdowns or > plane crashes did not occur, but the number of non-critical Y2K errors > encountered on January 1, 2000 was extensive. Due to the lack of > disasters and the faulty "end of the world" expectations, the public > largely, but perhaps wrongly, regarded the Y2K passage as a non- event.>>> It was not an issue. A few computers may have blinked, with or without the intervention. Off_world_beings Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend's response to Bird Flu - Healthy News Article from Mercola.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > This is not the chicken little > > > > > yk2 shit. The agreement amongst scientist that this is the > > > > > greatest danger humanity has ever faced is universal>>> > > > > > > > > Not true. This is typical mis-quoting. Scientists have said > that > > it > > > > COULD pose the greatest threat, IF it mutates,and then only IF > > it is > > > > a strain that is effortlessly and easily spread from human to > > > > human, and IF it is deadly in such a scenario. IF all these 4 > > > > hurdles are met, THEN it COULD pose a big threat to society. > > > > > > However, there seems to be a great deal of agreement > > > among the experts that it is *likely* that all four > > > hurdles will be met. And if they are, the potential > > > consequences would be so devastating that we can't just > > > sit back and say, Well, but it might not happen.>>> > > > > > > I might get hit on the head by a meteorite if I step outside the > > door. > > The BMA article was suggesting it was just hypothetical and not > > likely. > > > > > > > > > I bet your friend there WAS a true believer in Y2K disaster. I > > bet > > > > he still has stocks of steamed rice and tinned garbonzo beans > > left > > > > over from the stockpile he made before Y2k. > > > > > > Maybe. But the difference is that we took very > > > effective measures to *keep* Y2K from being a > > > disaster. Had we not, it could well have been.>>> > > > > > > Nonsense. Y2k bug never was. You can try to justify your previous > > faith in it, but there never was a threat. > > > > Bird flu will all blow over in less than a year, and when it does > > you will be stuck with the name in your brain"Off_world_beings". > > I think I'd prefer the bird flu, actually.>> What bird flu? Off_world_beings Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend's response to Bird Flu - Healthy News Article from Mercola.com
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Nonsense. Y2k bug never was. You can try to justify your previous > > faith in it, but there never was a threat. > > > > Bird flu will all blow over in less than a year, and when it does > > you will be stuck with the name in your brain"Off_world_beings". Like Y2K, the bird flu issue is most certainly real, though the hype about it may not be - the question is how lethal the mutated strain that can pass from human to human will be. I wasn't worried about Y2K because I saw the world markets weren't in Dec, 1999 - not that the problem never existed but that corporations had adequately dealt with it to avoid major problems. Still a little early for financial markets to react to bird flu. >From Wikipedia, on Y2K. In the end, significant disasters such as nuclear reactor meltdowns or plane crashes did not occur, but the number of non-critical Y2K errors encountered on January 1, 2000 was extensive. Due to the lack of disasters and the faulty "end of the world" expectations, the public largely, but perhaps wrongly, regarded the Y2K passage as a non-event. Ironically, many people were upset that there appeared to be so much hype over nothing, because the vast majority of problems had been fixed correctly. Some critics have suggested that much preventive effort was unnecessary. Their argument is it would have been cheaper not to spend as much examining non-critical systems for flaws and simply fix the few that would have failed after the event. The argument of their opponents is that, had it not been for such efforts, the problem would have been much worse and widespread. For those not involved in the preventive effort, the conclusion that all the efforts have been a waste was easy to draw, as they had no knowledge of the countless systems that had been corrected, but had only witnessed the problems that had not been fixed in time. Also, few of them realized that fixing the problems afterwards would have been much harder as active millennium problems would have complicated matters. But in any case, for many systems the checking procedure involved replacement with new, improved functionality and thus in many cases the expenditure proved useful regardless. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend's response to Bird Flu - Healthy News Article from Mercola.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > This is not the chicken little > > > > yk2 shit. The agreement amongst scientist that this is the > > > > greatest danger humanity has ever faced is universal>>> > > > > > > Not true. This is typical mis-quoting. Scientists have said that > it > > > COULD pose the greatest threat, IF it mutates,and then only IF > it is > > > a strain that is effortlessly and easily spread from human to > > > human, and IF it is deadly in such a scenario. IF all these 4 > > > hurdles are met, THEN it COULD pose a big threat to society. > > > > However, there seems to be a great deal of agreement > > among the experts that it is *likely* that all four > > hurdles will be met. And if they are, the potential > > consequences would be so devastating that we can't just > > sit back and say, Well, but it might not happen.>>> > > > I might get hit on the head by a meteorite if I step outside the > door. > The BMA article was suggesting it was just hypothetical and not > likely. > > > > > > I bet your friend there WAS a true believer in Y2K disaster. I > bet > > > he still has stocks of steamed rice and tinned garbonzo beans > left > > > over from the stockpile he made before Y2k. > > > > Maybe. But the difference is that we took very > > effective measures to *keep* Y2K from being a > > disaster. Had we not, it could well have been.>>> > > > Nonsense. Y2k bug never was. You can try to justify your previous > faith in it, but there never was a threat. > > Bird flu will all blow over in less than a year, and when it does > you will be stuck with the name in your brain"Off_world_beings". I think I'd prefer the bird flu, actually. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend's response to Bird Flu - Healthy News Article from Mercola.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only reason why Y2K wasn't a huge disaster was that the > governments and businesses spent billions of dollars preparing for it. Nonsense. Y2k bug never was. You can try to justify your previous faith in it, but there never was a threat. Bird flu will all blow over in less than a year, and when it does you will be stuck with the name in your brain"Off_world_beings". OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend's response to Bird Flu - Healthy News Article from Mercola.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This is not the chicken little > > > yk2 shit. The agreement amongst scientist that this is the > > > greatest danger humanity has ever faced is universal>>> > > > > Not true. This is typical mis-quoting. Scientists have said that it > > COULD pose the greatest threat, IF it mutates,and then only IF it is > > a strain that is effortlessly and easily spread from human to > > human, and IF it is deadly in such a scenario. IF all these 4 > > hurdles are met, THEN it COULD pose a big threat to society. > > However, there seems to be a great deal of agreement > among the experts that it is *likely* that all four > hurdles will be met. And if they are, the potential > consequences would be so devastating that we can't just > sit back and say, Well, but it might not happen.>>> I might get hit on the head by a meteorite if I step outside the door. The BMA article was suggesting it was just hypothetical and not likely. > > > I bet your friend there WAS a true believer in Y2K disaster. I bet > > he still has stocks of steamed rice and tinned garbonzo beans left > > over from the stockpile he made before Y2k. > > Maybe. But the difference is that we took very > effective measures to *keep* Y2K from being a > disaster. Had we not, it could well have been.>>> Nonsense. Y2k bug never was. You can try to justify your previous faith in it, but there never was a threat. Bird flu will all blow over in less than a year, and when it does you will be stuck with the name in your brain"Off_world_beings". Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend's response to Bird Flu - Healthy News Article from Mercola.com
The only reason why Y2K wasn't a huge disaster was that the governments and businesses spent billions of dollars preparing for it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is not the chicken little > > yk2 shit. The agreement amongst scientist that this is the > greatest danger > > humanity has ever faced is universal>>> > > > Not true. This is typical mis-quoting. Scientists have said that it > COULD pose the greatest threat, IF it mutates,and then only IF it is > a strain that is effortlessly and easily spread from human to human, > and IF it is deadly in such a scenario. IF all these 4 hurdles are > met, THEN it COULD pose a big threat to society. > > I bet your friend there WAS a true believer in Y2K disaster. I bet > he still has stocks of steamed rice and tinned garbonzo beans left > over from the stockpile he made before Y2k. > > At worst the bird flu will make it faster to get through shopping > lines in the supermarket due to there being a few less old ladies > who will have moved on to better dimensions and higher worlds of > bliss. > > OffWorld > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend's response to Bird Flu - Healthy News Article from Mercola.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is not the chicken little > > yk2 shit. The agreement amongst scientist that this is the > > greatest danger humanity has ever faced is universal>>> > > Not true. This is typical mis-quoting. Scientists have said that it > COULD pose the greatest threat, IF it mutates,and then only IF it is > a strain that is effortlessly and easily spread from human to > human, and IF it is deadly in such a scenario. IF all these 4 > hurdles are met, THEN it COULD pose a big threat to society. However, there seems to be a great deal of agreement among the experts that it is *likely* that all four hurdles will be met. And if they are, the potential consequences would be so devastating that we can't just sit back and say, Well, but it might not happen. > I bet your friend there WAS a true believer in Y2K disaster. I bet > he still has stocks of steamed rice and tinned garbonzo beans left > over from the stockpile he made before Y2k. Maybe. But the difference is that we took very effective measures to *keep* Y2K from being a disaster. Had we not, it could well have been. It wasn't chicken little, but it wasn't chopped liver either. > At worst the bird flu will make it faster to get through shopping > lines in the supermarket due to there being a few less old ladies > who will have moved on to better dimensions and higher worlds of > bliss. Actually bird flu, if it mutates, is more likely to kill off younger people, because it triggers a very severe and uncontrolled immune response so powerful it can end up destroying the lungs. The more vigorous and healthy the immune system is, the more likely this is to happen. This is one reason why the 1918 flu was so devastating. But scientists are currently working on a new drug that has the potential to curb this response. If you'd like to know more, Google the term "cytokine storm." Here's a good place to start, a bit technical but not too bad: http://www.cytokinestorm.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend's response to Bird Flu - Healthy News Article from Mercola.com
This is not the chicken little > yk2 shit. The agreement amongst scientist that this is the greatest danger > humanity has ever faced is universal>>> Not true. This is typical mis-quoting. Scientists have said that it COULD pose the greatest threat, IF it mutates,and then only IF it is a strain that is effortlessly and easily spread from human to human, and IF it is deadly in such a scenario. IF all these 4 hurdles are met, THEN it COULD pose a big threat to society. I bet your friend there WAS a true believer in Y2K disaster. I bet he still has stocks of steamed rice and tinned garbonzo beans left over from the stockpile he made before Y2k. At worst the bird flu will make it faster to get through shopping lines in the supermarket due to there being a few less old ladies who will have moved on to better dimensions and higher worlds of bliss. OffWorld Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: A friend's response to Bird Flu - Healthy News Article from Mercola.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I sent an old Fairfield friend a link to > http://www.mercola.com/display/router.aspx?docid=31303 and this was his > response: > > This is retarded.never has there been a bird flu that has effected so > many multiple millions of birds and over such a large geographic area. THERE > HAS NEVER BEEN A CASE WHEN A PANDEMIC FLU AMONGST BIRDS HAS NOT SPREAD TO > HUMANS. When bird handlers in poor parts of the world and in indigenous > populations (where they contract the bird flu from water supply, lakes, > rivers etc) have contact with the virus from infected birds, while at the > same time being infected with an ordinary flu, then the ordinary flu teaches > the bird flu how to transfer from human to human. The petri dish for stewing > a lethal combination of regular flu with bird flu has never been greater and > is about to be global in one years time. From an unbiased scientific > perspective it is ABSOLUTELY INEVITABLE that the jump will occur. It will > be here in America... and most likely Iowa...within a year. > > If you are spreading this pacifying bullshit in order to ease peoples > mindsor in order to berate the government or established medical > authorities because of your notions that they are ALL corrupt and money > crazed and want to control the population with fear etcthen you are > being HIGHLY IRRESPONSIBLE and frankly just plan stupid. You could end up > being the cause of the DEATHS of a lot of folk who already are in denial > that something so horrifying could possibly be in the making. They will > relax about the whole thing, instead of being properly prepared, and the > result will be their undoing. > > I wish this thing were not going to happenwe are all going to eat shit > sandwiches even if we're well prepared. But NOT to prepare for such a > culture buster, even if the likelihood of it happening were only to be 50% > and not 100%, would be highly irresponsible. This is not the chicken little > yk2 shit. The agreement amongst scientist that this is the greatest danger > humanity has ever faced is universalgovernments are only now beginning > to get the balls to address this crisis, and in a very understated way, to > their respective populations. So for Christ sake don't make the job of > getting folks prepared any harder. They are going to hear stuff from the > media that will stir them to want to do something. They are going to need > to plan to have food, on hand, for 6 months to a yeargrains that they > can sprout etc. And they are going to need to have somethings, on hand, > that will dumb down the flu so it isn't so virulent. > > If we do not prepare then our gooses will be cooked. > > PS If this thing doesn't happen, by some miracle, then everyone is invited > to my place for steamed rice and sprouted garbonzo beans. > So there are two sides to every *story*. My experience is that science is wrong much more often than it is right. I still don't see this thing 'bird flu' happening... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
