[FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
Has Rick Archer decided to kill the group? This moron danfriedman2002 is splatting shit all across the forum. I am having great difficulty wading through all this muck. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com EXCELLENT post Barry - you have officially busted the asses of everyone who thinks this whole deal is the real deal. I am passing all this along to my friend Bill who is in touch with Jerry, the one I mentioned in past posts who has had several extended phone conversations with Jerry in the past few months. I hope he is willing to pass the question on and I hope Jerry is willing to answer. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : It would be interesting to hear his answer to my question, although I doubt he'd really give one. Easier to dodge and weave to avoid cognitive dissonance than deal with it, especially if you've devoted 50 years *to* avoiding it. It goes without saying that I see another option to the either/or I laid out below. That was for Jerry -- based on knowing him, those would be the two options I think he would see. Me, I'd go for both/and -- Maharishi was WRONG about what happens after dying in enlightenment AND he was never enlightened. --- Danfriedman2002@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. This Post counts. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming to be able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before now. The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe that *by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi was enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him after death. Or how such a person could even consider such a message a *possibility* if Maharishi was really enlightened. In being open to such a promised message possibly being for real, you would have to believe that Maharishi was NEVER enlightened. If he was, *according to his own teachings*, after an enlightened person dies, there can be no individuality left to send such a message. The drop has returned to the ocean. That means there ain't no drop (or personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more. Just ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in showers, including the shower guy's dead wife in on the conference call. And if they do, they don't sign them, Maharishi. I heard Maharishi give the talks surrounding this point many times, and they were often controversy-provoking, with people standing up to the microphone and saying, No, Maharishi, that *can't* be how it is, that if you die in CC there is no more 'you' left and you never have a chance to attain GC or UC. And *every time* someone did this, Maharishi would correct them and say, No, there is NO chance of individual personality continuing to exist after an enlightened person dies. They are already Absolute, and when the relative body falls away, all that is left is Absolute -- no personality, no self, nada. Game over, man. OK, he didn't say Game over, man, but he did pretty much say all the rest, as many teachers here on this forum know. And the thing is Jerry Jarvis knows this better than anyone. He perfected the art of parroting Maharishi's talks on this subject, and I heard him give the same speech many times -- There is no individuality after an enlightened person dies, and no possibility of one existing. So if Jerry has actually come to believe that messages from Dead Maharishi could possibly exist, what does that imply? Well, as far as I can tell, it implies one of two things -- an either/or situation. To believe that this George Hammond guy *has* actually received messages from a Dead Maharishi, Jerry would have to believe that either 1) Maharishi's teaching on this subject (which he had parroted many times) was WRONG, or 2) that the teaching might be correct, but that means that Maharishi was never enlightened. If any of you out there are actually in touch with Jerry, ask him to resolve this WTF quandary for me. I mean, I could understand someone who has never spent any time around Maharishi or never even met him (like Jim, Judy, or Lawson) not knowing what Maharishi's teachings were about the impossibility of individuality after death in CC. But Jerry? I've heard him parrot those teachings, and in that I *know* the Truth so you *really* should believe me tone of voice he used to use in lectures. So if he is willing to entertain even the *possibility*
[FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote : Has Rick Archer decided to kill the group? This moron danfriedman2002 is splatting shit all across the forum. I am having great difficulty wading through all this muck. Dear Mr Not Moron, Or can I call you by your real name - jedi spock? Here's how to do it. Try to follow me here. You do not open the emails from danfriedman2002. They are clearly labeled that way to help you read only things that you can. Or, try a book. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com EXCELLENT post Barry - you have officially busted the asses of everyone who thinks this whole deal is the real deal. I am passing all this along to my friend Bill who is in touch with Jerry, the one I mentioned in past posts who has had several extended phone conversations with Jerry in the past few months. I hope he is willing to pass the question on and I hope Jerry is willing to answer. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : It would be interesting to hear his answer to my question, although I doubt he'd really give one. Easier to dodge and weave to avoid cognitive dissonance than deal with it, especially if you've devoted 50 years *to* avoiding it. It goes without saying that I see another option to the either/or I laid out below. That was for Jerry -- based on knowing him, those would be the two options I think he would see. Me, I'd go for both/and -- Maharishi was WRONG about what happens after dying in enlightenment AND he was never enlightened. --- Danfriedman2002@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. This Post counts. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming to be able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before now. The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe that *by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi was enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him after death. Or how such a person could even consider such a message a *possibility* if Maharishi was really enlightened. In being open to such a promised message possibly being for real, you would have to believe that Maharishi was NEVER enlightened. If he was, *according to his own teachings*, after an enlightened person dies, there can be no individuality left to send such a message. The drop has returned to the ocean. That means there ain't no drop (or personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more. Just ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in showers, including the shower guy's dead wife in on the conference call. And if they do, they don't sign them, Maharishi. I heard Maharishi give the talks surrounding this point many times, and they were often controversy-provoking, with people standing up to the microphone and saying, No, Maharishi, that *can't* be how it is, that if you die in CC there is no more 'you' left and you never have a chance to attain GC or UC. And *every time* someone did this, Maharishi would correct them and say, No, there is NO chance of individual personality continuing to exist after an enlightened person dies. They are already Absolute, and when the relative body falls away, all that is left is Absolute -- no personality, no self, nada. Game over, man. OK, he didn't say Game over, man, but he did pretty much say all the rest, as many teachers here on this forum know. And the thing is Jerry Jarvis knows this better than anyone. He perfected the art of parroting Maharishi's talks on this subject, and I heard him give the same speech many times -- There is no individuality after an enlightened person dies, and no possibility of one existing. So if Jerry has actually come to believe that messages from Dead Maharishi could possibly exist, what does that imply? Well, as far as I can tell, it implies one of two things -- an either/or situation. To believe that this George Hammond guy *has* actually received messages from a Dead Maharishi, Jerry would have to believe that either 1) Maharishi's teaching on this subject (which he had parroted many times) was WRONG, or 2) that the teaching might be correct, but that means that Maharishi was never enlightened. If any of you out there are actually in touch with Jerry, ask him to resolve this WTF quandary for me. I mean, I could understand someone who has never spent any time around Maharishi or never even met him (like Jim, Judy, or
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
Dan is trying to take Willy Tex's place as resident troll. Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. It would be interesting to see the document Jerry signed giving Danny power of attorney to him, allowing him to speak for and conduct business for Jerry. From: jedi_sp...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) Has Rick Archer decided to kill the group? This moron danfriedman2002 is splatting shit all across the forum. I am having great difficulty wading through all this muck. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com EXCELLENT post Barry - you have officially busted the asses of everyone who thinks this whole deal is the real deal. I am passing all this along to my friend Bill who is in touch with Jerry, the one I mentioned in past posts who has had several extended phone conversations with Jerry in the past few months. I hope he is willing to pass the question on and I hope Jerry is willing to answer. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : It would be interesting to hear his answer to my question, although I doubt he'd really give one. Easier to dodge and weave to avoid cognitive dissonance than deal with it, especially if you've devoted 50 years *to* avoiding it. It goes without saying that I see another option to the either/or I laid out below. That was for Jerry -- based on knowing him, those would be the two options I think he would see. Me, I'd go for both/and -- Maharishi was WRONG about what happens after dying in enlightenment AND he was never enlightened. --- Danfriedman2002@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. This Post counts. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming to be able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before now. The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe that *by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi was enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him after death. Or how such a person could even consider such a message a *possibility* if Maharishi was really enlightened. In being open to such a promised message possibly being for real, you would have to believe that Maharishi was NEVER enlightened. If he was, *according to his own teachings*, after an enlightened person dies, there can be no individuality left to send such a message. The drop has returned to the ocean. That means there ain't no drop (or personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more. Just ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in showers, including the shower guy's dead wife in on the conference call. And if they do, they don't sign them, Maharishi. I heard Maharishi give the talks surrounding this point many times, and they were often controversy-provoking, with people standing up to the microphone and saying, No, Maharishi, that *can't* be how it is, that if you die in CC there is no more 'you' left and you never have a chance to attain GC or UC. And *every time* someone did this, Maharishi would correct them and say, No, there is NO chance of individual personality continuing to exist after an enlightened person dies. They are already Absolute, and when the relative body falls away, all that is left is Absolute -- no personality, no self, nada. Game over, man. OK, he didn't say Game over, man, but he did pretty much say all the rest, as many teachers here on this forum know. And the thing is Jerry Jarvis knows this better than anyone. He perfected the art of parroting Maharishi's talks on this subject, and I heard him give the same speech many times -- There is no individuality after an enlightened person dies, and no possibility of one existing. So if Jerry has actually come to believe that messages from Dead Maharishi could possibly exist, what does that imply? Well, as far as I can tell, it implies one of two things -- an either/or situation. To believe that this George Hammond guy *has* actually received messages from a Dead Maharishi, Jerry would have to believe that either 1) Maharishi's teaching on this subject (which he had parroted many
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Dan is trying to take Willy Tex's place as resident troll. Dear Michael, That's cold. And good luck with that Jerry Jarvis-Barry Wright thing. I'm sure you got this one right. Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. It would be interesting to see the document Jerry signed giving Danny power of attorney to him, allowing him to speak for and conduct business for Jerry. From: jedi_spock@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:19 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) Has Rick Archer decided to kill the group? This moron danfriedman2002 is splatting shit all across the forum. I am having great difficulty wading through all this muck. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com EXCELLENT post Barry - you have officially busted the asses of everyone who thinks this whole deal is the real deal. I am passing all this along to my friend Bill who is in touch with Jerry, the one I mentioned in past posts who has had several extended phone conversations with Jerry in the past few months. I hope he is willing to pass the question on and I hope Jerry is willing to answer. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : It would be interesting to hear his answer to my question, although I doubt he'd really give one. Easier to dodge and weave to avoid cognitive dissonance than deal with it, especially if you've devoted 50 years *to* avoiding it. It goes without saying that I see another option to the either/or I laid out below. That was for Jerry -- based on knowing him, those would be the two options I think he would see. Me, I'd go for both/and -- Maharishi was WRONG about what happens after dying in enlightenment AND he was never enlightened. --- Danfriedman2002@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. This Post counts. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming to be able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before now. The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe that *by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi was enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him after death. Or how such a person could even consider such a message a *possibility* if Maharishi was really enlightened. In being open to such a promised message possibly being for real, you would have to believe that Maharishi was NEVER enlightened. If he was, *according to his own teachings*, after an enlightened person dies, there can be no individuality left to send such a message. The drop has returned to the ocean. That means there ain't no drop (or personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more. Just ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in showers, including the shower guy's dead wife in on the conference call. And if they do, they don't sign them, Maharishi. I heard Maharishi give the talks surrounding this point many times, and they were often controversy-provoking, with people standing up to the microphone and saying, No, Maharishi, that *can't* be how it is, that if you die in CC there is no more 'you' left and you never have a chance to attain GC or UC. And *every time* someone did this, Maharishi would correct them and say, No, there is NO chance of individual personality continuing to exist after an enlightened person dies. They are already Absolute, and when the relative body falls away, all that is left is Absolute -- no personality, no self, nada. Game over, man. OK, he didn't say Game over, man, but he did pretty much say all the rest, as many teachers here on this forum know. And the thing is Jerry Jarvis knows this better than anyone. He perfected the art of parroting Maharishi's talks on this subject, and I heard him give the same speech many times -- There is no individuality after an enlightened person dies, and no possibility of one existing. So if Jerry has actually come to believe that messages from Dead Maharishi could possibly exist, what does that imply? Well, as far as I can tell, it implies one of two things -- an either/or situation. To believe that this George Hammond guy
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that. He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to post the most. Or that other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin. IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures to perform a Tibetan sky burial, so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral. :-) From: jedi_sp...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) Has Rick Archer decided to kill the group? This moron danfriedman2002 is splatting shit all across the forum. I am having great difficulty wading through all this muck. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com EXCELLENT post Barry - you have officially busted the asses of everyone who thinks this whole deal is the real deal. I am passing all this along to my friend Bill who is in touch with Jerry, the one I mentioned in past posts who has had several extended phone conversations with Jerry in the past few months. I hope he is willing to pass the question on and I hope Jerry is willing to answer. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : It would be interesting to hear his answer to my question, although I doubt he'd really give one. Easier to dodge and weave to avoid cognitive dissonance than deal with it, especially if you've devoted 50 years *to* avoiding it. It goes without saying that I see another option to the either/or I laid out below. That was for Jerry -- based on knowing him, those would be the two options I think he would see. Me, I'd go for both/and -- Maharishi was WRONG about what happens after dying in enlightenment AND he was never enlightened. --- Danfriedman2002@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. This Post counts. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming to be able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before now. The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe that *by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi was enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him after death. Or how such a person could even consider such a message a *possibility* if Maharishi was really enlightened. In being open to such a promised message possibly being for real, you would have to believe that Maharishi was NEVER enlightened. If he was, *according to his own teachings*, after an enlightened person dies, there can be no individuality left to send such a message. The drop has returned to the ocean. That means there ain't no drop (or personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more. Just ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in showers, including the shower guy's dead wife in on the conference call. And if they do, they don't sign them, Maharishi. I heard Maharishi give the talks surrounding this point many times, and they were often controversy-provoking, with people standing up to the microphone and saying, No, Maharishi, that *can't* be how it is, that if you die in CC there is no more 'you' left and you never have a chance to attain GC or UC. And *every time* someone did this, Maharishi would correct them and say, No, there is NO chance of individual personality continuing to exist after an enlightened person dies. They are already Absolute, and when the relative body falls away, all that is left is Absolute -- no personality, no self, nada. Game over, man. OK, he didn't say Game over, man, but he did pretty much say all the rest, as many teachers here on this forum know. And the thing is Jerry Jarvis knows this better than anyone. He perfected the art of parroting Maharishi's talks on this subject, and I heard him give the same speech many times -- There is no individuality after an enlightened person dies, and no possibility of one existing. So if Jerry has actually come to believe that messages from Dead Maharishi could possibly exist, what does that imply? Well, as far as I can tell, it implies one of two things --
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that. He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to post the most. Or that other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin. IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures to perform a Tibetan sky burial, so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral. :-) Finally, some self-awareness from BW: He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types And does your jedi-spock admit it too? this should count as 2 Posts. Two birds with one stone. From: jedi_spock@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) Has Rick Archer decided to kill the group? This moron danfriedman2002 is splatting shit all across the forum. I am having great difficulty wading through all this muck. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com EXCELLENT post Barry - you have officially busted the asses of everyone who thinks this whole deal is the real deal. I am passing all this along to my friend Bill who is in touch with Jerry, the one I mentioned in past posts who has had several extended phone conversations with Jerry in the past few months. I hope he is willing to pass the question on and I hope Jerry is willing to answer. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : It would be interesting to hear his answer to my question, although I doubt he'd really give one. Easier to dodge and weave to avoid cognitive dissonance than deal with it, especially if you've devoted 50 years *to* avoiding it. It goes without saying that I see another option to the either/or I laid out below. That was for Jerry -- based on knowing him, those would be the two options I think he would see. Me, I'd go for both/and -- Maharishi was WRONG about what happens after dying in enlightenment AND he was never enlightened. --- Danfriedman2002@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. This Post counts. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming to be able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before now. The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe that *by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi was enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him after death. Or how such a person could even consider such a message a *possibility* if Maharishi was really enlightened. In being open to such a promised message possibly being for real, you would have to believe that Maharishi was NEVER enlightened. If he was, *according to his own teachings*, after an enlightened person dies, there can be no individuality left to send such a message. The drop has returned to the ocean. That means there ain't no drop (or personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more. Just ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in showers, including the shower guy's dead wife in on the conference call. And if they do, they don't sign them, Maharishi. I heard Maharishi give the talks surrounding this point many times, and they were often controversy-provoking, with people standing up to the microphone and saying, No, Maharishi, that *can't* be how it is, that if you die in CC there is no more 'you' left and you never have a chance to attain GC or UC. And *every time* someone did this, Maharishi would correct them and say, No, there is NO chance of individual personality continuing to exist after an enlightened person dies. They are already Absolute, and when the relative body falls away, all that is left is Absolute -- no personality, no self, nada. Game over, man. OK, he didn't say Game over, man, but he did pretty much say all the rest, as many teachers here on this forum know. And the thing is Jerry Jarvis knows this better than anyone. He perfected the art of parroting Maharishi's talks on this subject, and I heard him give the same speech
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that. He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to post the most. Or that other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin. IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures to perform a Tibetan sky burial, so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral. :-) Are you one of the vultures or one of the unbalanced posters? Sometimes it is hard to tell the difference with so much egging going on - it's hard to see the feathers from the yolks.
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---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that. He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to post the most. Or that other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin. IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures to perform a Tibetan sky burial, so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral. :-) Are you one of the vultures or one of the unbalanced posters? Sometimes it is hard to tell the difference with so much egging going on - it's hard to see the feathers from the yolks. On his next post he'll explain that are just 'jokes', not yolks.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that. He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to post the most. Or that other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin. IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures to perform a Tibetan sky burial, so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral. :-) Are you one of the vultures or one of the unbalanced posters? Sometimes it is hard to tell the difference with so much egging going on - it's hard to see the feathers from the yolks. On his next post he'll explain that are just 'jokes', not yolks. Not sure about the Dutch but he Germans pronounce 'J' like 'Y' so you are probably correct about this. Thanks for the help. BTW, bawee will claim I am enabling you here but personally, I like bugging him and as long as you keep posting you're bugging him. We can make the yolk on him, shall we?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote : Has Rick Archer decided to kill the group? This moron danfriedman2002 is splatting shit all across the forum. I am having great difficulty wading through all this muck. Empty vessels make the most noise my Vulcan brother. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com EXCELLENT post Barry - you have officially busted the asses of everyone who thinks this whole deal is the real deal. I am passing all this along to my friend Bill who is in touch with Jerry, the one I mentioned in past posts who has had several extended phone conversations with Jerry in the past few months. I hope he is willing to pass the question on and I hope Jerry is willing to answer. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : It would be interesting to hear his answer to my question, although I doubt he'd really give one. Easier to dodge and weave to avoid cognitive dissonance than deal with it, especially if you've devoted 50 years *to* avoiding it. It goes without saying that I see another option to the either/or I laid out below. That was for Jerry -- based on knowing him, those would be the two options I think he would see. Me, I'd go for both/and -- Maharishi was WRONG about what happens after dying in enlightenment AND he was never enlightened. --- Danfriedman2002@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. This Post counts. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming to be able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before now. The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe that *by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi was enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him after death. Or how such a person could even consider such a message a *possibility* if Maharishi was really enlightened. In being open to such a promised message possibly being for real, you would have to believe that Maharishi was NEVER enlightened. If he was, *according to his own teachings*, after an enlightened person dies, there can be no individuality left to send such a message. The drop has returned to the ocean. That means there ain't no drop (or personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more. Just ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in showers, including the shower guy's dead wife in on the conference call. And if they do, they don't sign them, Maharishi. I heard Maharishi give the talks surrounding this point many times, and they were often controversy-provoking, with people standing up to the microphone and saying, No, Maharishi, that *can't* be how it is, that if you die in CC there is no more 'you' left and you never have a chance to attain GC or UC. And *every time* someone did this, Maharishi would correct them and say, No, there is NO chance of individual personality continuing to exist after an enlightened person dies. They are already Absolute, and when the relative body falls away, all that is left is Absolute -- no personality, no self, nada. Game over, man. OK, he didn't say Game over, man, but he did pretty much say all the rest, as many teachers here on this forum know. And the thing is Jerry Jarvis knows this better than anyone. He perfected the art of parroting Maharishi's talks on this subject, and I heard him give the same speech many times -- There is no individuality after an enlightened person dies, and no possibility of one existing. So if Jerry has actually come to believe that messages from Dead Maharishi could possibly exist, what does that imply? Well, as far as I can tell, it implies one of two things -- an either/or situation. To believe that this George Hammond guy *has* actually received messages from a Dead Maharishi, Jerry would have to believe that either 1) Maharishi's teaching on this subject (which he had parroted many times) was WRONG, or 2) that the teaching might be correct, but that means that Maharishi was never enlightened. If any of you out there are actually in touch with Jerry, ask him to resolve this WTF quandary for me. I mean, I could understand someone who has never spent any time around Maharishi or never even met him (like Jim, Judy, or Lawson) not knowing what Maharishi's teachings were about the impossibility of individuality after death in CC. But Jerry? I've heard him parrot those teachings, and in that I *know* the Truth so you
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater@... wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that. He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to post the most. Or that other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin. IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures to perform a Tibetan sky burial, so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral. :-) Are you one of the vultures or one of the unbalanced posters? Sometimes it is hard to tell the difference with so much egging going on - it's hard to see the feathers from the yolks. On his next post he'll explain that are just 'jokes', not yolks. Not sure about the Dutch but he Germans pronounce 'J' like 'Y' so you are probably correct about this. Thanks for the help. BTW, bawee will claim I am enabling you here but personally, I like bugging him and as long as you keep posting you're bugging him. We can make the yolk on him, shall we? I get it, but who's going to clue Barry in? Not me.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote : Has Rick Archer decided to kill the group? This moron danfriedman2002 is splatting shit all across the forum. I am having great difficulty wading through all this muck. Empty vessels make the most noise my Vulcan brother. You two talk this way in real life? Now that's fucked up! Communicating with people in a friendly way, here in NYC dannyboy From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com EXCELLENT post Barry - you have officially busted the asses of everyone who thinks this whole deal is the real deal. I am passing all this along to my friend Bill who is in touch with Jerry, the one I mentioned in past posts who has had several extended phone conversations with Jerry in the past few months. I hope he is willing to pass the question on and I hope Jerry is willing to answer. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : It would be interesting to hear his answer to my question, although I doubt he'd really give one. Easier to dodge and weave to avoid cognitive dissonance than deal with it, especially if you've devoted 50 years *to* avoiding it. It goes without saying that I see another option to the either/or I laid out below. That was for Jerry -- based on knowing him, those would be the two options I think he would see. Me, I'd go for both/and -- Maharishi was WRONG about what happens after dying in enlightenment AND he was never enlightened. --- Danfriedman2002@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. This Post counts. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming to be able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before now. The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe that *by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi was enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him after death. Or how such a person could even consider such a message a *possibility* if Maharishi was really enlightened. In being open to such a promised message possibly being for real, you would have to believe that Maharishi was NEVER enlightened. If he was, *according to his own teachings*, after an enlightened person dies, there can be no individuality left to send such a message. The drop has returned to the ocean. That means there ain't no drop (or personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more. Just ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in showers, including the shower guy's dead wife in on the conference call. And if they do, they don't sign them, Maharishi. I heard Maharishi give the talks surrounding this point many times, and they were often controversy-provoking, with people standing up to the microphone and saying, No, Maharishi, that *can't* be how it is, that if you die in CC there is no more 'you' left and you never have a chance to attain GC or UC. And *every time* someone did this, Maharishi would correct them and say, No, there is NO chance of individual personality continuing to exist after an enlightened person dies. They are already Absolute, and when the relative body falls away, all that is left is Absolute -- no personality, no self, nada. Game over, man. OK, he didn't say Game over, man, but he did pretty much say all the rest, as many teachers here on this forum know. And the thing is Jerry Jarvis knows this better than anyone. He perfected the art of parroting Maharishi's talks on this subject, and I heard him give the same speech many times -- There is no individuality after an enlightened person dies, and no possibility of one existing. So if Jerry has actually come to believe that messages from Dead Maharishi could possibly exist, what does that imply? Well, as far as I can tell, it implies one of two things -- an either/or situation. To believe that this George Hammond guy *has* actually received messages from a Dead Maharishi, Jerry would have to believe that either 1) Maharishi's teaching on this subject (which he had parroted many times) was WRONG, or 2) that the teaching might be correct, but that means that Maharishi was never enlightened. If any of you out there are actually in touch with Jerry, ask him to resolve this WTF quandary for me. I mean, I could understand someone who has never spent any time around Maharishi or never even met him (like Jim, Judy, or
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
Empty vessels can sound sublime: The Great Bell Chant (The End of Suffering) The Great Bell Chant (The End of Suffering) View on vimeo.com Preview by Yahoo On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:42 AM, danfriedman2002 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jedi_spock@... wrote : Has Rick Archer decided to kill the group? This moron danfriedman2002 is splatting shit all across the forum. I am having great difficulty wading through all this muck. Empty vessels make the most noise my Vulcan brother. You two talk this way in real life? Now that's fucked up! Communicating with people in a friendly way, here in NYC dannyboy From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com EXCELLENT post Barry - you have officially busted the asses of everyone who thinks this whole deal is the real deal. I am passing all this along to my friend Bill who is in touch with Jerry, the one I mentioned in past posts who has had several extended phone conversations with Jerry in the past few months. I hope he is willing to pass the question on and I hope Jerry is willing to answer. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : It would be interesting to hear his answer to my question, although I doubt he'd really give one. Easier to dodge and weave to avoid cognitive dissonance than deal with it, especially if you've devoted 50 years *to* avoiding it. It goes without saying that I see another option to the either/or I laid out below. That was for Jerry -- based on knowing him, those would be the two options I think he would see. Me, I'd go for both/and -- Maharishi was WRONG about what happens after dying in enlightenment AND he was never enlightened. --- Danfriedman2002@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. This Post counts. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming to be able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before now. The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe that *by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi was enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him after death. Or how such a person could even consider such a message a *possibility* if Maharishi was really enlightened. In being open to such a promised message possibly being for real, you would have to believe that Maharishi was NEVER enlightened. If he was, *according to his own teachings*, after an enlightened person dies, there can be no individuality left to send such a message. The drop has returned to the ocean. That means there ain't no drop (or personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more. Just ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in showers, including the shower guy's dead wife in on the conference call. And if they do, they don't sign them, Maharishi. I heard Maharishi give the talks surrounding this point many times, and they were often controversy-provoking, with people standing up to the microphone and saying, No, Maharishi, that *can't* be how it is, that if you die in CC there is no more 'you' left and you never have a chance to attain GC or UC. And *every time* someone did this, Maharishi would correct them and say, No, there is NO chance of individual personality continuing to exist after an enlightened person dies. They are already Absolute, and when the relative body falls away, all that is left is Absolute -- no personality, no self, nada. Game over, man. OK, he didn't say Game over, man, but he did pretty much say all the rest, as many teachers here on this forum know. And the thing is Jerry Jarvis knows this better than anyone. He perfected the art of parroting Maharishi's talks on this subject, and I heard him give the same speech many times -- There is no individuality after an enlightened person dies, and no possibility of one existing. So if Jerry has actually come to believe that messages from Dead Maharishi could possibly exist, what does that imply? Well, as far as I can tell, it implies one of two things -- an either/or situation. To believe that this George Hammond guy *has* actually received messages from a Dead Maharishi, Jerry would have to believe that either 1) Maharishi's teaching on this subject (which he had parroted many times) was WRONG, or 2) that the teaching might be correct, but that means that
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
Well it's always a good day when I learn something new, in this case the Tibetan sky burial.Also thought it was a pretty good tantric joke about Rick not having to spring for a funeral. On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:07 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote: In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that. He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to post the most. Or that other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin. IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures to perform a Tibetan sky burial, so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral. :-) From: jedi_sp...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) Has Rick Archer decided to kill the group? This moron danfriedman2002 is splatting shit all across the forum. I am having great difficulty wading through all this muck. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com EXCELLENT post Barry - you have officially busted the asses of everyone who thinks this whole deal is the real deal. I am passing all this along to my friend Bill who is in touch with Jerry, the one I mentioned in past posts who has had several extended phone conversations with Jerry in the past few months. I hope he is willing to pass the question on and I hope Jerry is willing to answer. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : It would be interesting to hear his answer to my question, although I doubt he'd really give one. Easier to dodge and weave to avoid cognitive dissonance than deal with it, especially if you've devoted 50 years *to* avoiding it. It goes without saying that I see another option to the either/or I laid out below. That was for Jerry -- based on knowing him, those would be the two options I think he would see. Me, I'd go for both/and -- Maharishi was WRONG about what happens after dying in enlightenment AND he was never enlightened. --- Danfriedman2002@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. This Post counts. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming to be able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before now. The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe that *by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi was enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him after death. Or how such a person could even consider such a message a *possibility* if Maharishi was really enlightened. In being open to such a promised message possibly being for real, you would have to believe that Maharishi was NEVER enlightened. If he was, *according to his own teachings*, after an enlightened person dies, there can be no individuality left to send such a message. The drop has returned to the ocean. That means there ain't no drop (or personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more. Just ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in showers, including the shower guy's dead wife in on the conference call. And if they do, they don't sign them, Maharishi. I heard Maharishi give the talks surrounding this point many times, and they were often controversy-provoking, with people standing up to the microphone and saying, No, Maharishi, that *can't* be how it is, that if you die in CC there is no more 'you' left and you never have a chance to attain GC or UC. And *every time* someone did this, Maharishi would correct them and say, No, there is NO chance of individual personality continuing to exist after an enlightened person dies. They are already Absolute, and when the relative body falls away, all that is left is Absolute -- no personality, no self, nada. Game over, man. OK, he didn't say Game over, man, but he did pretty much say all the rest, as many teachers here on this forum know. And the thing is Jerry Jarvis knows this better than anyone. He perfected the art of parroting Maharishi's talks on this subject, and
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that. He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to post the most. Or that other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin. IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures to perform a Tibetan sky burial, so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral. :-) These “post the most” characters – one in particular – have been around since the beginning. Apparently decades of TM practice don’t necessarily cultivate any significant degree of self-reflective awareness, or a sense of purpose in life which would motivate one towards activities more constructive than cluttering up a chat group with excessive posts, even after having been told repeatedly that it wasn’t appreciated. Go figure. _ From: jedi_sp...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] mailto:jedi_sp...@yahoo.com%20[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) Has Rick Archer decided to kill the group? This moron danfriedman2002 is splatting shit all across the forum. I am having great difficulty wading through all this muck. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com EXCELLENT post Barry - you have officially busted the asses of everyone who thinks this whole deal is the real deal. I am passing all this along to my friend Bill who is in touch with Jerry, the one I mentioned in past posts who has had several extended phone conversations with Jerry in the past few months. I hope he is willing to pass the question on and I hope Jerry is willing to answer. --- turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : It would be interesting to hear his answer to my question, although I doubt he'd really give one. Easier to dodge and weave to avoid cognitive dissonance than deal with it, especially if you've devoted 50 years *to* avoiding it. It goes without saying that I see another option to the either/or I laid out below. That was for Jerry -- based on knowing him, those would be the two options I think he would see. Me, I'd go for both/and -- Maharishi was WRONG about what happens after dying in enlightenment AND he was never enlightened. --- Danfriedman2002@... mailto:Danfriedman2002@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. This Post counts. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming to be able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before now. The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe that *by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi was enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him after death. Or how such a person could even consider such a message a *possibility* if Maharishi was really enlightened. In being open to such a promised message possibly being for real, you would have to believe that Maharishi was NEVER enlightened. If he was, *according to his own teachings*, after an enlightened person dies, there can be no individuality left to send such a message. The drop has returned to the ocean. That means there ain't no drop (or personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more. Just ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in showers, including the shower guy's dead wife in on the conference call. And if they do, they don't sign them, Maharishi. I heard Maharishi give the talks surrounding this point many times, and they were often controversy-provoking, with people standing up to the
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that. He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to post the most. Or that other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin. IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures to perform a Tibetan sky burial, so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral. :-) These “post the most” characters – one in particular – have been around since the beginning. Apparently decades of TM practice don’t necessarily cultivate any significant degree of self-reflective awareness, or a sense of purpose in life which would motivate one towards activities more constructive than cluttering up a chat group with excessive posts, even after having been told repeatedly that it wasn’t appreciated. Go figure. That'll look good on the brochure: Learn TM stay an inconsiderate knob your whole life. From: jedi_spock@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jedi_spock@...%20[FairfieldLife]; FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) Has Rick Archer decided to kill the group? This moron danfriedman2002 is splatting shit all across the forum. I am having great difficulty wading through all this muck. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com EXCELLENT post Barry - you have officially busted the asses of everyone who thinks this whole deal is the real deal. I am passing all this along to my friend Bill who is in touch with Jerry, the one I mentioned in past posts who has had several extended phone conversations with Jerry in the past few months. I hope he is willing to pass the question on and I hope Jerry is willing to answer. --- turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : It would be interesting to hear his answer to my question, although I doubt he'd really give one. Easier to dodge and weave to avoid cognitive dissonance than deal with it, especially if you've devoted 50 years *to* avoiding it. It goes without saying that I see another option to the either/or I laid out below. That was for Jerry -- based on knowing him, those would be the two options I think he would see. Me, I'd go for both/and -- Maharishi was WRONG about what happens after dying in enlightenment AND he was never enlightened. --- Danfriedman2002@... mailto:Danfriedman2002@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. This Post counts. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming to be able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before now. The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe that *by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi was enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him after death. Or how such a person could even consider such a message a *possibility* if Maharishi was really enlightened. In being open to such a promised message possibly being for real, you would have to believe that Maharishi was NEVER enlightened. If he was, *according to his own teachings*, after an enlightened person dies, there can be no individuality left to send such a message. The drop has returned to the ocean. That means there ain't no drop (or personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more. Just ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in showers, including the shower guy's dead wife in on the conference call. And if they do, they don't sign them, Maharishi. I heard
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
On 09/10/2014 10:33 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : *From:*FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:05 AM *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) */In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that. /* */He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to post the most. Or that other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin. /* */IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures to perform a Tibetan sky burial, so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral. :-)/* These “post the most” characters – one in particular – have been around since the beginning. Apparently decades of TM practice don’t necessarily cultivate any significant degree of self-reflective awareness, or a sense of purpose in life which would motivate one towards activities more constructive than cluttering up a chat group with excessive posts, even after having been told repeatedly that it wasn’t appreciated. Go figure. That'll look good on the brochure: Learn TM stay an inconsiderate knob your whole life. I peer down into the Dungeon from time to time to see what they are wailing about now. Maybe I ought to send a guard down there to give them a flogging but I'm afraid they would like it. Got to admit setting up the Dungeon for them makes FFL much cleaner to read. This could probably be solved by adding a line to the Guidelines on the order of saying the moderators reserve the right to unsubscribe anyone.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 09/10/2014 10:33 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that. He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to post the most. Or that other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin. IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures to perform a Tibetan sky burial, so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral. :-) These “post the most” characters – one in particular – have been around since the beginning. Apparently decades of TM practice don’t necessarily cultivate any significant degree of self-reflective awareness, or a sense of purpose in life which would motivate one towards activities more constructive than cluttering up a chat group with excessive posts, even after having been told repeatedly that it wasn’t appreciated. Go figure. That'll look good on the brochure: Learn TM stay an inconsiderate knob your whole life. I peer down into the Dungeon from time to time to see what they are wailing about now. Maybe I ought to send a guard down there to give them a flogging but I'm afraid they would like it. You haven't missed much down there, it's like watching goldfish: A two second memory means they do the same thing over and over again.. Got to admit setting up the Dungeon for them makes FFL much cleaner to read. This could probably be solved by adding a line to the Guidelines on the order of saying the moderators reserve the right to unsubscribe anyone. I wish I could be bothered to get a dustbin together, I still rely on message view and do a lot of scrolling. But it is kind of refreshing to see the sort of effects that long term spiritual practise can give to some. TM should have a warning label of it's own: This isn't a panacea, you have to do some work too!
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that. He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to post the most. Or that other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin. IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures to perform a Tibetan sky burial, so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral. :-) These “post the most” characters – one in particular – have been around since the beginning. Apparently decades of TM practice don’t necessarily cultivate any significant degree of self-reflective awareness, or a sense of purpose in life which would motivate one towards activities more constructive than cluttering up a chat group with excessive posts, even after having been told repeatedly that it wasn’t appreciated. Go figure. That'll look good on the brochure: Learn TM stay an inconsiderate knob your whole life. Sal, Are you considering learning the TM Technique? From: jedi_spock@... [FairfieldLife] mailto:jedi_spock@...%20[FairfieldLife]; FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) Has Rick Archer decided to kill the group? This moron danfriedman2002 is splatting shit all across the forum. I am having great difficulty wading through all this muck. From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com EXCELLENT post Barry - you have officially busted the asses of everyone who thinks this whole deal is the real deal. I am passing all this along to my friend Bill who is in touch with Jerry, the one I mentioned in past posts who has had several extended phone conversations with Jerry in the past few months. I hope he is willing to pass the question on and I hope Jerry is willing to answer. --- turquoiseb@... mailto:turquoiseb@... wrote : It would be interesting to hear his answer to my question, although I doubt he'd really give one. Easier to dodge and weave to avoid cognitive dissonance than deal with it, especially if you've devoted 50 years *to* avoiding it. It goes without saying that I see another option to the either/or I laid out below. That was for Jerry -- based on knowing him, those would be the two options I think he would see. Me, I'd go for both/and -- Maharishi was WRONG about what happens after dying in enlightenment AND he was never enlightened. --- Danfriedman2002@... mailto:Danfriedman2002@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. This Post counts. From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com; FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming to be able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before now. The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe that *by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi was enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him after death. Or how such a person could even consider such a message a *possibility* if Maharishi was really enlightened. In being open to such a promised message possibly being for real, you would have to believe that Maharishi was NEVER enlightened. If he was, *according to his own teachings*, after an enlightened person dies, there can be no individuality left to send such a message. The drop has returned to the ocean. That means there ain't no drop (or personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more. Just ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : On 09/10/2014 10:33 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... mailto:rick@... wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that. He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to post the most. Or that other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin. IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures to perform a Tibetan sky burial, so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral. :-) These “post the most” characters – one in particular – have been around since the beginning. Apparently decades of TM practice don’t necessarily cultivate any significant degree of self-reflective awareness, or a sense of purpose in life which would motivate one towards activities more constructive than cluttering up a chat group with excessive posts, even after having been told repeatedly that it wasn’t appreciated. Go figure. That'll look good on the brochure: Learn TM stay an inconsiderate knob your whole life. I peer down into the Dungeon from time to time to see what they are wailing about now. Maybe I ought to send a guard down there to give them a flogging but I'm afraid they would like it. Got to admit setting up the Dungeon for them makes FFL much cleaner to read. This could probably be solved by adding a line to the Guidelines on the order of saying the moderators reserve the right to unsubscribe anyone. B-man(?). Are you on the Barry Dream Dinner invitation list. I wasn't aware you ran with the Other's posse. Please respond, as I was just now documenting The Secret Procedure for Coffee Perfection, but I can stop.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
It happens far too often to be ignored. Now let the True Believers squall like banshees. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 1:33 PM Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that. He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to post the most. Or that other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin. IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures to perform a Tibetan sky burial, so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral. :-) These “post the most” characters – one in particular – have been around since the beginning. Apparently decades of TM practice don’t necessarily cultivate any significant degree of self-reflective awareness, or a sense of purpose in life which would motivate one towards activities more constructive than cluttering up a chat group with excessive posts, even after having been told repeatedly that it wasn’t appreciated. Go figure. That'll look good on the brochure: Learn TM stay an inconsiderate knob your whole life. From:jedi_spock@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:19 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) Has Rick Archer decided to kill the group? This moron danfriedman2002 is splatting shit all across the forum. I am having great difficulty wading through all this muck. From:Michael Jackson mjackson74@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com EXCELLENT post Barry - you have officially busted the asses of everyone who thinks this whole deal is the real deal. I am passing all this along to my friend Bill who is in touch with Jerry, the one I mentioned in past posts who has had several extended phone conversations with Jerry in the past few months. I hope he is willing to pass the question on and I hope Jerry is willing to answer. --- turquoiseb@... wrote : It would be interesting to hear his answer to my question, although I doubt he'd really give one. Easier to dodge and weave to avoid cognitive dissonance than deal with it, especially if you've devoted 50 years *to* avoiding it. It goes without saying that I see another option to the either/or I laid out below. That was for Jerry -- based on knowing him, those would be the two options I think he would see. Me, I'd go for both/and -- Maharishi was WRONG about what happens after dying in enlightenment AND he was never enlightened. --- Danfriedman2002@... wrote : Jerry Jarvis has spoken his final words to you for his entire life. And since you believe in dissolving after life, I guess that's it. This Post counts. From:TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 9, 2014 11:27 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened OK, it was kinda inevitable that *somebody* would come along claiming to be able to pass along Maharishi's messages from beyond the grave. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened before now. The thing I'm confused about is how anyone who claims to believe that *by his own standards and according to his own teachings* Maharishi was enlightened would be *interested* in hearing a message from him after death. Or how such a person could even consider such a message a *possibility* if Maharishi was really enlightened. In being open to such a promised message possibly being for real, you would have to believe that Maharishi was NEVER enlightened. If he was, *according to his own teachings*, after an enlightened person dies, there can be no individuality left to send such a message. The drop has returned to the ocean. That means there ain't no drop (or personality construct, or self) known as Maharishi out there any more. Just ocean. Last I checked, oceans don't send messages to guys in showers, including the shower guy's dead wife in on the conference call.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rick@... wrote : From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:05 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Has Rick decided to kill the Group? (Nice to hear from you, Rish...sorry to learn you weren't enlightened) In all seriousness, I suspect that Rick has done exactly that. He really doesn't seem to even notice that the group has developed a couple of mentally unbalanced types whose highest goal in life seems to be to post the most. Or that other people on the forum are actually encouraging them to do so and egging them on in their psychosis, as they did previously with other mentally unbalanced posters like Ravi and Robin. IMO, the group's already dead. Rick's just hoping that it attracts vultures to perform a Tibetan sky burial, so he doesn't have to spring for a funeral. :-) These “post the most” characters – one in particular – have been around since the beginning. Apparently decades of TM practice don’t necessarily cultivate any significant degree of self-reflective awareness, or a sense of purpose in life which would motivate one towards activities more constructive than cluttering up a chat group with excessive posts, even after having been told repeatedly that it wasn’t appreciated. Go figure. That'll look good on the brochure: Learn TM stay an inconsiderate knob your whole life. You're a guy with a sense of humor Salyavin and I like that but there are other ways to convey the fact one is an inconsiderate knob beyond overposting - if you get my drift.
