Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-08 Thread Peter
What do you mean by incompatible? What do you mean by
SSRS gives chanting Om to one and all. He hasn't
given it to me. What is your knowledge of SSRS based
on, direct experience or hearsay? 

--- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 SriSri gives chanting Om to one and all.
 Incompatible.
 In his meditation practice you DON'T always come
 back to the mantra if
 you are aware you aren't doing it.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
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  --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI
   program. it is
   incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.
  
  Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole
 of
  SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis
 program
  and it is completely compatable with MMY's
 program.
  You don't know what you're talking about. 
  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Peter


--- rmy108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  
  
  --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
   On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote:
   
What is the official position of the art of
 living
   organization
regarding whether Maharishi approves of what
 SSRS
   is doing?  I tried
to ask him directly once and he skirted the
   question.
I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY
 said
   of SSRS candy
coated poison
   
   
   I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where
 he
   says (gross  
   paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM
   should go ahead and  
   do it as long they do it correctly, is actually
   meant to refer to  
   SSRS, not independent non-recertified TM
 teachers
   (as is often  
   presupposed).
   
   Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock
 of
   pranayama and  
   meditation instruction in India where he
 initiated
   more people into  
   inner space than any known human in historical
   times: millions of  
   humans. All at once.
   
   I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event.
  
  SSRS loves MMY dearly and MMY loves SSRS dearly.
 As
  SSRS said once about gurus, those who know, know
 and
  those who don't, don't. 
  
  
  IF SSRS loves MMY so much, how come its never
 mentioned in any of 
 their publicity materials that he was MMY's
 disciple?

He is  MMY's disciple, not was. As to why he doesn't
say anything, unless he is directly asked by someone,
you'll have to ask him and MMY about that. Anything I
or you would say would just be speculation at best and
projection at worst. 




  
  
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-05 Thread Peter


--- rmy108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I agree that it is speculation, but it seems to me
 that if he were 
 really still MMY's disciple that he would be proud
 enough of that 
 fact to use it to his advantage.  MMY is world
 famous, as is TM.  By 
 mentioning that, it would give him credibility in
 some people's 
 mind.

I don't think it really would. I don't think that the
TMO and MMY have the best image in the world and there
are many people who are now getting involved in
spiritual pursuits that have never heard of MMY or TM.



  But besides that, it is traditional in India
 to always ,at 
 least mention your master.  Look at how MMY always
 does that.
 It seems that there is an assumption among SSRS
 teachers that he has 
 a positive relationship with MMY, but yet mothing
 official has ever 
 been said.  I think this could be a belief system
 among his followers 
 (especially TM people who are with him), so they
 don't have to deal 
 with the conflict of, what if he is, in fact, not
 approved of by MMY?

I'm sure some former or current TM with SSRS might
have some cognitive dissonance and might be using the
above to lessen the dissonance. But the relationship
between MMY and SSRS is something between them. What
MMY says about SSRS publically is one thing and what
he says about him privately is another. By the way, I
always thought that MMY's comment about SSRS,
Meditators should watch out for sugar-coated poison.
was quite the compliment. This is one of those
guru-speak things. I say this because of my direct
experiences with MMY as Blazing Brahman and my
direct experiences with SSRS as Blazing Brahman. MMY
couldn't say something negative about SSRS if he
tried. How could he? MMY made SSRS just like Guru
Dev made MMY. Someone like MMY, and SSRS for that
matter, use everything to facilitate realization in
those who have a relationship with them. MMY and SSRS
are just two faces of Brahman. Brahman has lots of
shiny, bright, glowing faces and its own amazing
dharma of Self-Realization.



  


   
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj


On Aug 4, 2006, at 1:59 AM, shukra69 wrote:A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching. Incompatible in what way?We have a number of SSRI initiates here: is it really incompatible?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Peter


--- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI
 program. it is
 incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.

Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of
SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program
and it is completely compatable with MMY's program.
You don't know what you're talking about. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj


On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:--- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.  Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about.  Thanks Dr. Pete!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Peter


--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:
 
  --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI
  program. it is
  incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.
 
  Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole
 of
  SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis
 program
  and it is completely compatable with MMY's
 program.
  You don't know what you're talking about.
 
 
 Thanks Dr. Pete!

I love these people that talk about something they
have absolutely no experience with. Amazing. I think
I'll post an in-depth critique of Amma' meditation
technique along with my 4 month stay in 1972 with Tat
Walla Baba since I have experienced neither. Off world
will co-author the article with me.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Peter


--- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:
  
   --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI
   program. it is
   incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.
  
   Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole
 of
   SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis
 program
   and it is completely compatable with MMY's
 program.
   You don't know what you're talking about.
  
 I wasn't speaking on whether the techniques which
 Ravi teaches are 
 compatible or not;
 I assume they would be, since I was inferring that
 they are what 
 Maharishi teaches;
 I was just wondering how much credit he gives to
 Maharishi, for this 
 teaching;
 In the same way, I was wondering, how much credit
 Deepak Chopra;
 Gives to Maharishi, for all the knowledge he
 plagerized from him.
 That's all.
 I just wanted to bitch.
 Nothing personal;
 I just think it's strange that these people teach
 what Maharishi 
 teaches, and just never give him any credit.

I understand. SSRS primary emphasis is on teaching his
Sudarshan Kriya and secondarily on what he calls Sahaj
Samadhi meditation.





 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj


On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:16 PM, Robert Gimbel wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:  --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.  Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about.  I wasn't speaking on whether the techniques which Ravi teaches are  compatible or not; I assume they would be, since I was inferring that they are what  Maharishi teaches; I was just wondering how much credit he gives to Maharishi, for this  teaching; In the same way, I was wondering, how much credit Deepak Chopra; Gives to Maharishi, for all the knowledge he plagerized from him. That's all. I just wanted to bitch. Nothing personal; I just think it's strange that these people teach what Maharishi  teaches, and just never give him any credit. It's generic dude. 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj


On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Peter wrote:--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   On Aug 4, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Peter wrote:  --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   A friend of mine has taken the whole SRI SRI program. it is incompatable with Maharishi's teaching.  Well, I've actually taken and practice the whole of SSRS's program along with my TM and TM siddhis program and it is completely compatable with MMY's program. You don't know what you're talking about.   Thanks Dr. Pete!  I love these people that talk about something they have absolutely no experience with. Amazing. I think I'll post an in-depth critique of Amma' meditation technique along with my 4 month stay in 1972 with Tat Walla Baba since I have experienced neither. Off world will co-author the article with me. Dude, you should let Spairag and Authfriend footnote it just to be sure to maintain purity!
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Vaj


On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote:What is the official position of the art of living organization  regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS is doing?  I tried  to ask him directly once and he skirted the question. I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said of SSRS "candy  coated poison" I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he says (gross paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM should go ahead and do it as long they do it correctly, is actually meant to refer to SSRS, not "independent" non-recertified TM teachers (as is often presupposed).Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of pranayama and meditation instruction in India where he initiated more people into inner space than any known human in historical times: millions of humans. All at once.I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event.
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Does Shri Shri Ravi Shankar/Sell Techniques of Maharishi Maheshi Yogi?

2006-08-04 Thread Peter


--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Aug 4, 2006, at 8:56 PM, randymeltzer wrote:
 
  What is the official position of the art of living
 organization
  regarding whether Maharishi approves of what SSRS
 is doing?  I tried
  to ask him directly once and he skirted the
 question.
  I'm sure you've all heard the quote that MMY said
 of SSRS candy
  coated poison
 
 
 I propose that the oft quoted words of M. where he
 says (gross  
 paraphrase) that those who know how to teach TM
 should go ahead and  
 do it as long they do it correctly, is actually
 meant to refer to  
 SSRS, not independent non-recertified TM teachers
 (as is often  
 presupposed).
 
 Indeed, after this event, SSRS held a Woodstock of
 pranayama and  
 meditation instruction in India where he initiated
 more people into  
 inner space than any known human in historical
 times: millions of  
 humans. All at once.
 
 I think M. quietly sanctioned the whole event.

SSRS loves MMY dearly and MMY loves SSRS dearly. As
SSRS said once about gurus, those who know, know and
those who don't, don't. 





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