Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakras from me
On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 6:38 AM, shainm307 shainm...@yahoo.com wrote: What do you guys not know about the chakras? I think Maharishi was missing something. I need to know from you guys what you think it is because usually i get the anwswer from an outside source, like source or whevever it comes from but know im not getting the answers. I had my dad talk to you guys yesterday, but now im doing it myself and i need to know im doing it myself. What do you guys think is missing? My dad needs to learn something from you guys because i think his kundalini(spelling) is wrong too. So is mine for instance, but I don;t think adjusting them everyday is the way to do it i think it has to do with more of being yourself. Learning all about what Maharishi didn't teach about the chakras. Sponsoring very heavy, very intense yagyas. The others I'm sponsoring for and I are going through some very rough stuff. Stuff that's taken us to ERs on 3 different continents.My specialty is the third chakra. I have to wait every day for just the right time for the pain, retching and heaving to stop or subside long enough to chow down. I've had about $20K worth of tests done and my internist, who is the most highly regarded in the area I'm in right now writes into his chart nervous stomach. As luck would have it, he practices Kundalini Yoga. He tells me what's really happening is blowing trash out of my 3rd chakra, an especially important chakra for me as I suffered very powerful physical and emotional abuse as a child till the age of 16. I suspect Maharishi didn't talk about chakras because he truly did practice Yogurt Lite. We'd do a lifetime of meditation and the Begin laughter sidhis /End laughter then eventually reconvene a few centuries in the future to join into doing some serious work on our karma and consciousness. Maharishi's final words to Invincible: fine points about consciousness. Nothing with respect to the subtle or gross body. Perhaps this is because Maharishi spent his life in denial. His heart, kidneys, eyes, hearing and peripheral nerves were destroyed by diabetes he refused to treat. After a while you start to wonder if his constant references to the neck, the heart, the body weren't just for emphasis. Perhaps he was happily trying to be dissociated from his body. BTW, SSRS says we don't drop the body. The body drops us.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakras from me
On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Tom Pall wrote: I suspect Maharishi didn't talk about chakras because he truly did practice Yogurt Lite. We'd do a lifetime of meditation and the Begin laughter sidhis /End laughter then eventually reconvene a few centuries in the future to join into doing some serious work on our karma and consciousness. Maharishi's final words to Invincible: fine points about consciousness. Nothing with respect to the subtle or gross body. Perhaps this is because Maharishi spent his life in denial. His heart, kidneys, eyes, hearing and peripheral nerves were destroyed by diabetes he refused to treat. After a while you start to wonder if his constant references to the neck, the heart, the body weren't just for emphasis. Perhaps he was happily trying to be dissociated from his body. BTW, SSRS says we don't drop the body. The body drops us. It depends on the practitioner. It's not unusual to be trained in transferring the consciousness outside the body - and it's not unusual to find 'it works' before you ever die. --- An old and interesting account of learning phowa, transference of consciousness. Late in my life, I practised Pho-wa [transference; Skt.: saMkrAnti], an esoteric Tibetan technique for rebirth in the Pure Land, which had not been introduced in China before. The teaching is based on the principle that when someone who is due to be reborn in the Western Paradise is dying, his consciousness will leave through the Aperture of Brahma (in the top of his skull): thus one is taught to repeat mantras to open this aperture and to practise regularly so that one can follow a similar path at the moment of death. In 1933, when I was sixty-one, I had already received this Dharma from the Tibetan guru No Na who had urged me to practise it at home (which I did) unsuccessfully. In the spring of 1937, when I was sixty-five, I heard that the guru Sheng Lu was teaching this Dharma in Nanking and that all those participating in the four previous meetings had succeeded in opening the Aperture of Brahma. As the fifth and last meeting was soon to take place at the Vairochana temple, I went to Nanking and put my name down to attend it. I arrived on the first of April to receive the initiation, which was very much more complicated than the one previously given me by the guru No Na. I was taught a vajra mantra as the first step in the practice. It was not a long one but the method of visualization was very elaborate. It had to be repeated one hundred thousand times, but since I had only a few days at my disposal, I did so as many times as I could. After the first day, I stayed in a lodging house and closed the door of my room to concentrate on repeating the mantra. Before midday on the ninth, I had done so sixty-two thousand times, and in the afternoon I returned to the Vairocana temple where thirty-nine of us assembled. I was told that this was considerably more than at any ofthe other four gatherings. The guru shaved a small hairless circle in the centre of my crown so that later he could sec if the Aperture of Brahma had opened in order to plant a stalk in it. On the tenth we began to isolate ourselves for meditation. In the main hall an altar was set up with all its majesty, before which the guru led us to practise the Dharma. Every day there were four sessions each lasting two hours. The practice consisted in visualizing Amitayus Buddha sitting on the top of the head and in imagining in the body a blue psychic tube which was red inside and stretched from the crown of the head to the perineum. Within this tube in the lower belly below the navel was a bright pearl which rose (up it) to the heart (centre). (When the pearl was visualized in that centre) I shouted the mantric syllable HIK, forcing up the pearl which followed the sound and thrust through the Aperture of Brahma to reach the heart of Amitayus. Then I whispered the syllable GA which caused the pearl to descend from the Buddha's heart and return through the opening to my lower belly. At each session we shouted with such force that we became hoarse and exhausted, and dripped perspiration although it was still very cold. Seeing that we were tired, the guru chanted in Sanskrit and exhorted us to follow his example and relax. This we did four or five times in each two hour session. Now I was already experienced in (the art of) meditation and had cleared the central psychic passage (in the spine) so that I made remarkable progress on the eleventh. During the first session a red light shone from the crown of my head and (I seemed) to grow taller. In the fourth session, I felt (as if) the Aperture of Brahma was being bored through by a sharp-pointed tool and was repeatedly hit by the ascending pearl. When I went to bed a great white light shone from my head. On the twelfth I practised as on the previous day. In the second session, I felt (as if) my skull
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakras from me
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Tom Pall wrote: I suspect Maharishi didn't talk about chakras because he truly did practice Yogurt Lite. We'd do a lifetime of meditation and the Begin laughter sidhis /End laughter then eventually reconvene a few centuries in the future to join into doing some serious work on our karma and consciousness.Maharishi's final words to Invincible: fine points about consciousness. Nothing with respect to the subtle or gross body. Perhaps this is because Maharishi spent his life in denial. His heart, kidneys, eyes, hearing and peripheral nerves were destroyed by diabetes he refused to treat. After a while you start to wonder if his constant references to the neck, the heart, the body weren't just for emphasis. Perhaps he was happily trying to be dissociated from his body. BTW, SSRS says we don't drop the body. The body drops us. It depends on the practitioner. It's not unusual to be trained in transferring the consciousness outside the body - and it's not unusual to find 'it works' before you ever die. --- An old and interesting account of learning phowa, transference of consciousness. Late in my life, I practised Pho-wa [transference; Skt.: saMkrAnti], an esoteric Tibetan technique for rebirth in the Pure Land, which had not been introduced in China before. The teaching is based on the principle that when someone who is due to be reborn in the Western Paradise is dying, his consciousness will leave through the Aperture of Brahma (in the top of his skull): thus one is taught to repeat mantras to open this aperture and to practise regularly so that one can follow a similar path at the moment of death. In 1933, when I was sixty-one, I had already received this Dharma from the Tibetan guru No Na who had urged me to practise it at home (which I did) unsuccessfully. In the spring of 1937, when I was sixty-five, I heard that the guru Sheng Lu was teaching this Dharma in Nanking and that all those participating in the four previous meetings had succeeded in opening the Aperture of Brahma. As the fifth and last meeting was soon to take place at the Vairochana temple, I went to Nanking and put my name down to attend it. I arrived on the first of April to receive the initiation, which was very much more complicated than the one previously given me by the guru No Na. I was taught a vajra mantra as the first step in the practice. It was not a long one but the method of visualization was very elaborate. It had to be repeated one hundred thousand times, but since I had only a few days at my disposal, I did so as many times as I could. After the first day, I stayed in a lodging house and closed the door of my room to concentrate on repeating the mantra. Before midday on the ninth, I had done so sixty-two thousand times, and in the afternoon I returned to the Vairocana temple where thirty-nine of us assembled. I was told that this was considerably more than at any ofthe other four gatherings. The guru shaved a small hairless circle in the centre of my crown so that later he could sec if the Aperture of Brahma had opened in order to plant a stalk in it. On the tenth we began to isolate ourselves for meditation. In the main hall an altar was set up with all its majesty, before which the guru led us to practise the Dharma. Every day there were four sessions each lasting two hours. The practice consisted in visualizing Amitayus Buddha sitting on the top of the head and in imagining in the body a blue psychic tube which was red inside and stretched from the crown of the head to the perineum. Within this tube in the lower belly below the navel was a bright pearl which rose (up it) to the heart (centre). (When the pearl was visualized in that centre) I shouted the mantric syllable HIK, forcing up the pearl which followed the sound and thrust through the Aperture of Brahma to reach the heart of Amitayus. Then I whispered the syllable GA which caused the pearl to descend from the Buddha's heart and return through the opening to my lower belly. At each session we shouted with such force that we became hoarse and exhausted, and dripped perspiration although it was still very cold. Seeing that we were tired, the guru chanted in Sanskrit and exhorted us to follow his example and relax. This we did four or five times in each two hour session. Now I was already experienced in (the art of) meditation and had cleared the central psychic passage (in the spine) so that I made remarkable progress on the eleventh. During the first session a red light shone from the crown of my head and (I seemed) to grow taller. In the fourth session, I felt (as if) the Aperture of Brahma was being bored through by a sharp-pointed tool and was repeatedly hit by the ascending pearl. When I went to bed a great white light shone from my head. On the twelfth I practised as
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakras from me
On Nov 6, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Tom Pall wrote: Vaj, this is kind of long but very amusing.I think in my spare time I'm going to take my imagination to the gates of Hell and practice tugging on them. Perhaps with sufficient practice I'll be able to tug them open with my intention. We'll know when there are all these astral bats flying out of Hell that I succeeded. Or you start running through the streets yelling Hail Cthulhu!? Interestingly, as eastern ideas have found a more accepting home in the west, even Christians are practicing the yogic transference at death - albeit to their own conception of the Jesus-dimension.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakras from me
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote: On Nov 6, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Tom Pall wrote: Vaj, this is kind of long but very amusing.I think in my spare time I'm going to take my imagination to the gates of Hell and practice tugging on them. Perhaps with sufficient practice I'll be able to tug them open with my intention. We'll know when there are all these astral bats flying out of Hell that I succeeded. Or you start running through the streets yelling Hail Cthulhu!? Interestingly, as eastern ideas have found a more accepting home in the west, even Christians are practicing the yogic transference at death - albeit to their own conception of the Jesus-dimension. Even more interesting is that spirit/soul/consciousness/whatever, enters the ?subtle? body through a specific part of the physical body, lives and flows through specific parts of the physical body and eventually exits thru a specific part of the body. And of course that Heaven is up, Hell is down. What a problem for those who live on the other side of the globe. Those people are living in my Hell. Then again, I'm living in theirs. I guess Hell is also where we transcend to, since the bubble diagram has us going down. I'm inspired. I'm going to take the lampshade off and turn the light on and off. Maybe I'll be able to catch just which direction the light exists the bulb. Vaj, you post some interesting and insightful things at times. At other times, fairy tales. Oh, why did the guru need to have his disciples come to the window where there was light so he could see the aperture? This aperture was really someone the guru could only see in the light?How did his disciples keep their brains in?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakras from me
On Nov 6, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Tom Pall wrote: Even more interesting is that spirit/soul/consciousness/whatever, enters the ?subtle? body through a specific part of the physical body, lives and flows through specific parts of the physical body and eventually exits thru a specific part of the body. And of course that Heaven is up, Hell is down. What a problem for those who live on the other side of the globe. Those people are living in my Hell. Then again, I'm living in theirs. I guess Hell is also where we transcend to, since the bubble diagram has us going down. I'm inspired. I'm going to take the lampshade off and turn the light on and off. Maybe I'll be able to catch just which direction the light exists the bulb. Vaj, you post some interesting and insightful things at times. At other times, fairy tales. They're not meant to be fairy tales, but one can look at them from whatever level of consciousness one needs to. So from a more absolute absolute POV there is no inside or outside, and so there are forms of transference that see it from that POV: no inside, no outside, no up or down. The most relative descriptions talk of a subtle body and a consciousness that moves from here to there and work by applying yogic methods to move from one to the other. But that specific abstraction is not necessary, although it can be a helpful approach, esp. when starting or in a retreat setting. Singer-songwriter Cliff Eberhardt actually wrote a song about this. He told me that the song The High Above and the Down Below was inspired by the ideas of 'god above and hell below' and what that funny fairy tale paradox meant for someone literally on the hell-side beneath our feet... Oh, why did the guru need to have his disciples come to the window where there was light so he could see the aperture? This aperture was really someone the guru could only see in the light?How did his disciples keep their brains in? My mother always told me when I'd forget something repeatedly that I must have a hole in my head. She would never have guessed later in life, I'd actually want one! Hey, it's cheaper than a cell phone.
[FairfieldLife] Chakras from me
What do you guys not know about the chakras? I think Maharishi was missing something. I need to know from you guys what you think it is because usually i get the anwswer from an outside source, like source or whevever it comes from but know im not getting the answers. I had my dad talk to you guys yesterday, but now im doing it myself and i need to know im doing it myself. What do you guys think is missing? My dad needs to learn something from you guys because i think his kundalini(spelling) is wrong too. So is mine for instance, but I don;t think adjusting them everyday is the way to do it i think it has to do with more of being yourself.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakras from me
On 11/05/2011 03:38 AM, shainm307 wrote: What do you guys not know about the chakras? I think Maharishi was missing something. I need to know from you guys what you think it is because usually i get the anwswer from an outside source, like source or whevever it comes from but know im not getting the answers. I had my dad talk to you guys yesterday, but now im doing it myself and i need to know im doing it myself. What do you guys think is missing? My dad needs to learn something from you guys because i think his kundalini(spelling) is wrong too. So is mine for instance, but I don;t think adjusting them everyday is the way to do it i think it has to do with more of being yourself. What your dad posted was good. I didn't get a chance to reply to it. It is true that TM'ers aren't very balanced or grounded. Some of the more tradition meditation techniques help that. Om is one of the most grounding mantras there is and why it is used along with many mantras. The chakras themselves will open naturally with proper meditation and asana. A guru is essential as it is possible to meditate the first time and have the kundalini rise to crown chakra which can be very disconcerting. Don't worry too much about spelling Sanskrit as it gets transliterated various ways.
[FairfieldLife] Chakras
Maybe there was a reason why the Chakras were ignored. The vast majority of metators in the movement have only 2 colors, Indigo and Violet. Ungrounded spoace cadets are happy, dependant, and somewhat more eaisly controlled. H. YOu are not going to walk on water without all your colors either. People with serious colr problems, are not understood by others all their colors or different colors. Those with the same unbalanced colors tend to seek out those with same.Their life is focused their spiritual beliefs and not much else. They don't understand people with normal colors, esspecially their spiritual outlooks. Manifestation of the basic things in life, like money, become hard to come by. Their normal defences are down and can be more eaisly persuaded of things they mioght normally take acceptance to. Why was something so important, and so simple to take care of, be left out entirely in the teachings of the movement. So much so that, when talked about, or questioned about around those with so called rank, that they get a little more than defencewive about it? Do you know how to keep all of your colors every day. It only takes 30 seconds. I am only touching on the highlights here. Lets hear from you out there. Francis
[FairfieldLife] Chakras mentioned in the Mudaka Upanishad
The flame has seven licking tongues, Kali, the dark one (Muladhara), the terrible (Svadhishthana), the swift-as-thought (Manipura), the crimson one (Anahata), the smoky colored (Vishuddha), the sparkling one (Ajna), and the Devi (Sahasrara), she who takes all forms. Whoever performs the sacrifice (raises the serpent fire) correctly, when these seven are enlivened, he is led by them, as the rays of the sun, to the world of the lord of the Gods. Mudaka Upanishad Shearer/Russell (Parenthesis added by poster) From him have sprung the seven gates of sense; and the seven subtle centers shining in the body
[FairfieldLife] Chakras and MMY no longer 'off-topic'...
Interesting site on Ajna Chakra(6th) FWIW. http://www.universal-mind.org/Chakra_pages/Ajna6.htm
[FairfieldLife] Chakras are the milestones on the path of kundalin...MMY.
Sushumna, (passage) 1/100th width of a hair in spine,when nervous system is free of stresses the breath will flow from both nostrils. Symbol of life force present in each living being. Germ of life is like a serpent, it becomes awake. 6 chakras open gives clear experience of Being...that is called enlightenment. 1000 petal lotus (7th) full of light, full of awareness, pure being, then it is Cosmic Consciousness. MMY paraphrased. During 'conscious' transcending we will experience phenomenon associated with each chakra! Such as different sounds like bells, flutes, harps, etc. That's how we know we are actually transcending..Billyg.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakras and verbs for (negative) emotions?
In the Age of Enlightenment we won't have anuses nor will we have genitals. --- Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Figure the first chakra is just above the anus, in Finnish they use the word Ku for example Mita Ku lo in portuguese ku is anus so in portuguese if you se mi da cu then they think you are either crazy of gay So in this way ku is very close to the first chakra - Original Message From: cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:05:20 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Chakras and verbs for (negative) emotions? [Just killing time...] In Finnnish, there are several verbs for (negative) emotions apparently loosely attached to some of the main chakras. From muulaadhaara chakra upwards: - root noun: vittu (vit-too: cunt), plural: vitut; verb vituttaa (~to be pissed off); vittuuntua (cunten, cuntate:~become pissed off) - kyrpä (kürrr-pae: cock, penis); verb: kyrpiintyä (same as vittuuntua , much more rarely used; one might expect that male persons would use this one, but that's not usually the case) -root noun: sappi (sup-pee: bile), plural: sapet; verb sapettaa (to gall) - root noun: sydän (sü-dan: heart), plural: sydämet; verb: sydämistyä (hearten[! ], dictionary: to become furiously angry; to be offended; mainly poetic) - ?root noun: suu (soo: mouth); verb: suuttua (?mouthen: to get angry) - root noun raivo (rye-vaw: obsolete for skull); verb: raivostua (become furious) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Chakras and verbs for (negative) emotions?
Holy shit!On Oct 24, 2006, at 10:30 AM, Peter wrote:In the Age of Enlightenment we won't have anuses nor will we have genitals. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Your email settings: Individual Email|Traditional Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch to Fully Featured Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] 'Chakras Such'
I thought it might be a good idea; To discuss people's experience with Chakras; Since Maharishi, hasn't discussed this much; Perhaps, those who wish to share some of these experiences may be helpful... I remember Maharishi, was more impressed with 'regular' experiences; As opposed to the 'flashy' ones; so hence... But for those, who have the ability to see auras and such; Perhaps those could add to the knowledge of Chakras... One of my experience, is to imagine a 'hallow of light' above your head- To open the 'Crown Chakra'. Another is to imagine the 'Heart Chakra' as being a point of focus; Of 'Bright Light'. And, connecting the two: The 'Light above, flowing through the heart; With eyes open this can be done, also... R.G. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
