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good to hear I guess that means, I, who've also lived the other side, (although not in some time), has not evolved? good to know From: Michael Jackson To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment i've lived the other side of the story as I have stated here many times, but like the TM hype talks, I have EVOLVED!!! From: Steve Sundur To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment sounds like a very nice venue. I'd like to come up and experience it. BTW, I'm not sure if Michael wants to hear "the other side of the story". He kind of shuts that out. I think there may be several like that. (-: From: Share Long To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment It's just that this quote from his buddy is so different from my day to day experience of TMers. I wanted to present the other side of the story. BTW, I've been going to the new town flying hall and it is wonderful. Of course I have my eyes closed the whole time ha ha, but the refitted ballroom itself is a pleasure to behold. Beautiful molded ceiling. Huge windows. The east wall is variegated brick such I have not seen outside of colonial America. The air is so pure and the silence is deep. Which is amazing given that the building also contains the old Co-ed movie theater. Go figure! (-: From: Steve Sundur To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment ya gotta remember Share, that Michael scares up decades old news releases as though they just happened yesterday. To say that he has a lot invested in his perception of M's TM movement would be an understatement. I think it's a continuous loop that he plays through in his head. From: Share Long To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! ________ From: Michael Jackson To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. "It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest."
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i've lived the other side of the story as I have stated here many times, but like the TM hype talks, I have EVOLVED!!! From: Steve Sundur To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment sounds like a very nice venue. I'd like to come up and experience it. BTW, I'm not sure if Michael wants to hear "the other side of the story". He kind of shuts that out. I think there may be several like that. (-: From: Share Long To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment It's just that this quote from his buddy is so different from my day to day experience of TMers. I wanted to present the other side of the story. BTW, I've been going to the new town flying hall and it is wonderful. Of course I have my eyes closed the whole time ha ha, but the refitted ballroom itself is a pleasure to behold. Beautiful molded ceiling. Huge windows. The east wall is variegated brick such I have not seen outside of colonial America. The air is so pure and the silence is deep. Which is amazing given that the building also contains the old Co-ed movie theater. Go figure! (-: From: Steve Sundur To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment ya gotta remember Share, that Michael scares up decades old news releases as though they just happened yesterday. To say that he has a lot invested in his perception of M's TM movement would be an understatement. I think it's a continuous loop that he plays through in his head. From: Share Long To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! From: Michael Jackson To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. "It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest."
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sounds like a very nice venue. I'd like to come up and experience it. BTW, I'm not sure if Michael wants to hear "the other side of the story". He kind of shuts that out. I think there may be several like that. (-: From: Share Long To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment It's just that this quote from his buddy is so different from my day to day experience of TMers. I wanted to present the other side of the story. BTW, I've been going to the new town flying hall and it is wonderful. Of course I have my eyes closed the whole time ha ha, but the refitted ballroom itself is a pleasure to behold. Beautiful molded ceiling. Huge windows. The east wall is variegated brick such I have not seen outside of colonial America. The air is so pure and the silence is deep. Which is amazing given that the building also contains the old Co-ed movie theater. Go figure! (-: From: Steve Sundur To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment ya gotta remember Share, that Michael scares up decades old news releases as though they just happened yesterday. To say that he has a lot invested in his perception of M's TM movement would be an understatement. I think it's a continuous loop that he plays through in his head. From: Share Long To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! From: Michael Jackson To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. "It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest."
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sounds like a very nice venue. I'd like to come up and experience it. BTW, I'm not sure if Michael wants to hear "the other side of the story". He kind of shuts that out. I think there may be several like that. (-: From: Share Long To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment It's just that this quote from his buddy is so different from my day to day experience of TMers. I wanted to present the other side of the story. BTW, I've been going to the new town flying hall and it is wonderful. Of course I have my eyes closed the whole time ha ha, but the refitted ballroom itself is a pleasure to behold. Beautiful molded ceiling. Huge windows. The east wall is variegated brick such I have not seen outside of colonial America. The air is so pure and the silence is deep. Which is amazing given that the building also contains the old Co-ed movie theater. Go figure! (-: From: Steve Sundur To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment ya gotta remember Share, that Michael scares up decades old news releases as though they just happened yesterday. To say that he has a lot invested in his perception of M's TM movement would be an understatement. I think it's a continuous loop that he plays through in his head. From: Share Long To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! From: Michael Jackson To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. "It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest."
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It's just that this quote from his buddy is so different from my day to day experience of TMers. I wanted to present the other side of the story. BTW, I've been going to the new town flying hall and it is wonderful. Of course I have my eyes closed the whole time ha ha, but the refitted ballroom itself is a pleasure to behold. Beautiful molded ceiling. Huge windows. The east wall is variegated brick such I have not seen outside of colonial America. The air is so pure and the silence is deep. Which is amazing given that the building also contains the old Co-ed movie theater. Go figure! (-: From: Steve Sundur To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment ya gotta remember Share, that Michael scares up decades old news releases as though they just happened yesterday. To say that he has a lot invested in his perception of M's TM movement would be an understatement. I think it's a continuous loop that he plays through in his head. From: Share Long To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! From: Michael Jackson To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. "It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest."
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it's kind of funny isn't it, that Michael is like the polar opposite of Nabkins. Neither budges much. From: Steve Sundur To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment ya gotta remember Share, that Michael scares up decades old news releases as though they just happened yesterday. To say that he has a lot invested in his perception of M's TM movement would be an understatement. I think it's a continuous loop that he plays through in his head. From: Share Long To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! From: Michael Jackson To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. "It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest."
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ya gotta remember Share, that Michael scares up decades old news releases as though they just happened yesterday. To say that he has a lot invested in his perception of M's TM movement would be an understatement. I think it's a continuous loop that he plays through in his head. From: Share Long To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! From: Michael Jackson To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. "It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest."
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Michael it is an interesting comment from your buddy. I can't help but wonder if he's been to FF recently, socialized with the regular folk at Rev's, etc. Lots of people who do TMSP twice a day could care less about anyone's status in TMO. We're all too old for that kind of stuff any more. At least that's my take on it. For many of us the knowledge AND simply the living of it without much thinking about it, is more than enough. However, like most of what's wonderful in life, this has to be experienced to be truly understood. What I'm so grateful for is that Maharishi gave us a technique that really does transcend its own activity. So that we have become liberated even from that! From: Michael Jackson To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 8:01 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Comment Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. "It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest."
[FairfieldLife] Comment
Here is a comment from a buddy of mine who is still doing TMSP 2 times a day and has a hard time believing M was up to no good. He sent this to me after watching the Marshy Good News channel clip that was posted here about the achievements of the Movement and its lead in clip with the smiling faces of the Raja of the Netherlands and his Premier. "It is interesting to look at the history of the movement as a progressive handing out of influence and recognition to key people. Its like the knowledge isn't enough, there has to be the continuous development of a corporate system and a jockeying for position, influence, power and recognition, or else people will just lose interest."
Re: [FairfieldLife] comment on Enlightened A-holes
On Jun 10, 2011, at 6:05 PM, Yifu wrote: > Could be a genuine paradox here; since normally, we'd expect (given the > history of certain so-called E'd people, say the "confirmed Gang of Three": > Andy, Bevan, and RWC.) conversations like this... Or it could be, as RWC 'pines, illegitimate lineal practices - being divorced from the lineage of spiritual blessing - actually do induce a style of 'spiritual psychosis'? Dunno...just sayin'...
[FairfieldLife] comment on Enlightened A-holes
Could be a genuine paradox here; since normally, we'd expect (given the history of certain so-called E'd people, say the "confirmed Gang of Three": Andy, Bevan, and RWC.) conversations like this... imagainary words of the above: "I'm E'd and therefore am not an A-hole" ... But they are A-holes! otoh, if an E'd person admitted being an A-hole, this could represent a certain degree of humility, in which case he/she couldn't be an A-hole! Reminds me of a conversation I had with a Fundie Christian. He quoted the Bible saying "The first shall be the last, and the last first". Then I said, in view of that, if there's a Rapture, I want to be last. But then he said, "Of course, if you're last, you're first!". ... But that might not work either since one could "really' come in last; and those opting for being first could really be first. ... But on the hole to avoid being an A-hole, it's best to admit it; rather than being in the same company with the real A-holes: His Holiness Bevan, Andy, and RWC. ... The bottom line: There's plenty of room aboard for normal, regular A-holes. http://www.fantasygallery.net/edwards/art_0_vimes-and-croissant-rouge.html
Re: [FairfieldLife] Comment from a friend
Then why does "O" have a bunch of Wall Street insiders in his administration? This sounds like wishful thinking to me. Here's Jim Hightower's thoughts on it from Bill Moyer's final show: http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04302010/profile2.html And while you're there you might want to watch the segment on Iowa folks fighting a big hog farm operation. One person in this report points out the Supreme Court Justice Brandeis once said that "you can have all the power in the hands of a wealthy few or you can have democracy but you can't have both." Rick Archer wrote: > Well, it's common sense really- we know the whole system is corrupt to the > core./ If you don't make deals you simply don't getting office. If you do > not operate within the parameters you are given by the puppeteers, your are > marginalized or even shot. (jfk). Doesn't make a shit how hi your office > is. Like Woodrow Wilson said "There are men so powerful we (politicians) > dare not say their names above a whisper. The lefties that think O has sold > out-I don't understand why they don't get this most important part of the > equation. I don't think "sold out" is quite the right articulation. I have > no doubt that O knew exactly what the game was and would be once he got into > office. Being optimistic and not naive-knowing politics is the art of the > possible-is a mark of a REAL guy--and also a mark of wisdom-innocent but > wise. O understands well the forces at work, which he has to juggle. I > think O is VERY smart-he's provably the purest guy ever to be in that > office-certainly smart enough to understand the big oil and pharma > agenda-the gmo thing, etc.-That Coal and Nuke are not and cannot be "clean" > energy. To a significant extent he ma has no choice but to do the bidding > of those who really control the power, regardless of what he knows or how > pure his intentions and desires may be. Even so, he can't know everything > and it could be that no one (like Jeffrey Smith_ has briefed him 9n what > gmo's actually are, and all the research showing how horrible they are, or > how the gmo and terminator seed thing fit into the world conquest agenda of > America. But O had no neurotic or psychotic desire to be pres--those who > know him well say h is about he most even-tempered human being alive-a sign > of higher consciousness. i see him as a pivotal force, who is doing what > can in fact be done under the current circumstances. O or anyone esle can > change the corporate ownership and control of every aspect of American life. > I personally think it will take divine intervention to do that at this > point. Or an armed revolution-which would last about a half a day or less > given the hi tech shit they got--just the shit we KNOW about He also > strikes me as he does you-as someone with great balancer and clarity. When > Ted Kennedy passed-he ceremonially gave the Kennedy torch to O--but have you > seen the right wing trashing of the Kennedy's by msm like History channel? > > As long as we are controlled by the families that own trillions of dollars > of fossil fuel assets, the AIPAC, wal street, the corps, big pharma and oil > cartel, no president can suddenly change course, even though they see > America crumbling around them due to the VAMPIRES that control the whole > thing. Most of the public seems to be under the happy illusion that there > are actually "democrats" or "republicans" or that "America" as they think of > it and have been taught, actually still exists. This is fiction. There has > been some move in Massachusetts to outline 4 or 5 basic points "liberals" > and "conservatives" all agree on so there can be unity and common ground. O > seems to me was trying to get Republican votes, for example, in the > healthcare thing to try to establish some sort of 'center" in the middle of > basically a civil war that is now going on by getting republicans on board. > of course they wound up shooting themselves in the foot-nevertheless with > this bill, corps and big pharma, etc, got most anything they wanted. What > else is new? Dems caved in-got NO CONCESSIONS- bargaining for votes and > wound up getting NO VOTES and NO CONCESSIONS from republicans. The country > is now completely ungovernable. The center is far less assailable and a > platform from which far more can be done. But Republicans wouldn't have it, > the dems are a bunch of pussies--and progressives have little unity--all > being independent thinkers to begin with-hard to put them together into a > coherent political "party" or movement of any power or significance. The > rise of some actual third party with strong leadership, like we saw some of > in the past 2 decades, might help. But as we've seen, anyone speaking > against the status quo is "unpatriotic" anti-American" etc.--and this > bullshit is bought into. Be sure and read that Hedges article. I'd love to > hear your comments on it. > > If one compares the scope
[FairfieldLife] Comment from a friend
Well, it's common sense really- we know the whole system is corrupt to the core./ If you don't make deals you simply don't getting office. If you do not operate within the parameters you are given by the puppeteers, your are marginalized or even shot. (jfk). Doesn't make a shit how hi your office is. Like Woodrow Wilson said "There are men so powerful we (politicians) dare not say their names above a whisper. The lefties that think O has sold out-I don't understand why they don't get this most important part of the equation. I don't think "sold out" is quite the right articulation. I have no doubt that O knew exactly what the game was and would be once he got into office. Being optimistic and not naive-knowing politics is the art of the possible-is a mark of a REAL guy--and also a mark of wisdom-innocent but wise. O understands well the forces at work, which he has to juggle. I think O is VERY smart-he's provably the purest guy ever to be in that office-certainly smart enough to understand the big oil and pharma agenda-the gmo thing, etc.-That Coal and Nuke are not and cannot be "clean" energy. To a significant extent he ma has no choice but to do the bidding of those who really control the power, regardless of what he knows or how pure his intentions and desires may be. Even so, he can't know everything and it could be that no one (like Jeffrey Smith_ has briefed him 9n what gmo's actually are, and all the research showing how horrible they are, or how the gmo and terminator seed thing fit into the world conquest agenda of America. But O had no neurotic or psychotic desire to be pres--those who know him well say h is about he most even-tempered human being alive-a sign of higher consciousness. i see him as a pivotal force, who is doing what can in fact be done under the current circumstances. O or anyone esle can change the corporate ownership and control of every aspect of American life. I personally think it will take divine intervention to do that at this point. Or an armed revolution-which would last about a half a day or less given the hi tech shit they got--just the shit we KNOW about He also strikes me as he does you-as someone with great balancer and clarity. When Ted Kennedy passed-he ceremonially gave the Kennedy torch to O--but have you seen the right wing trashing of the Kennedy's by msm like History channel? As long as we are controlled by the families that own trillions of dollars of fossil fuel assets, the AIPAC, wal street, the corps, big pharma and oil cartel, no president can suddenly change course, even though they see America crumbling around them due to the VAMPIRES that control the whole thing. Most of the public seems to be under the happy illusion that there are actually "democrats" or "republicans" or that "America" as they think of it and have been taught, actually still exists. This is fiction. There has been some move in Massachusetts to outline 4 or 5 basic points "liberals" and "conservatives" all agree on so there can be unity and common ground. O seems to me was trying to get Republican votes, for example, in the healthcare thing to try to establish some sort of 'center" in the middle of basically a civil war that is now going on by getting republicans on board. of course they wound up shooting themselves in the foot-nevertheless with this bill, corps and big pharma, etc, got most anything they wanted. What else is new? Dems caved in-got NO CONCESSIONS- bargaining for votes and wound up getting NO VOTES and NO CONCESSIONS from republicans. The country is now completely ungovernable. The center is far less assailable and a platform from which far more can be done. But Republicans wouldn't have it, the dems are a bunch of pussies--and progressives have little unity--all being independent thinkers to begin with-hard to put them together into a coherent political "party" or movement of any power or significance. The rise of some actual third party with strong leadership, like we saw some of in the past 2 decades, might help. But as we've seen, anyone speaking against the status quo is "unpatriotic" anti-American" etc.--and this bullshit is bought into. Be sure and read that Hedges article. I'd love to hear your comments on it. If one compares the scope and magnitude of FDR's New Deal with what O is trying to do-well, it's about 1/20th or less of what the New Deal was. If an actual "New Deal" magnitude of project were started by the dems, we'd be out of this hole in 6 months- It's not that it is not known what could be done or known that it CAN b e done-just that the special interest WILL NOT ALLOW IT-they will siphon off everything they can like a cancer, then when the country collapses, they will simply go to their thousand acre safe havens in Paraguay, etc. They don't give a shit about us-or only insomuch as we generate $ for them to steal.. The public must understand these things and learn to think a diffent way. From what little cont
[FairfieldLife] -Comment of the Day- from a former Republican
On Colin Powell's Endorsement of Barack Obama: "The funny thing is that I know that my old friends who I think have gone completely insane (and they think I have gone around the bend, as well) would, in years past, have been really moved by Powell's statements. Today, I am reasonably sure they will simply dismiss him. Makes me wonder how much of those long conversations we had ten years ago when we were all good Republicans was just justification of the tribalism, rather than a real discussion of politics. There are members of my family with whom I can not even talk about politics anymore- ten years ago, when Powell was one of the 'good guys,' they would have heeded his words. Now, of course, he is just a traitor to the GOP cause. The simple fact for me is that anyone who can look at Sarah Palin and say she is ready to be VP or President simply has no sense or integrity, because they are either wholly misguided or completely full of shit." ~~ John Cole, former Republican http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=12602
[FairfieldLife] Comment of the Day on Palin Daughter Pregnancy
"Gee, and I thought only liberal, secular parents without values had problems with their kids having sex during their teenage years. Meanwhile, what a great vetting job the McCain team has done on their choice for the VP slot, Governor Palin. Gives me great confidence that they can run the country in exactly the same way the current administration has done for the last 8 years. With Christian love, forgiveness and charity for -- well, for Conservative American Republican Christians, even when they commit a few sins here and there that the Ten Commandments and your local fire-breathing preacher says are all the fault of secularism and liberals and Hollywood and those liberal Christians who aren't really Christians at all." ~~ Steven D http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2008/9/1/13357/17322
[FairfieldLife] Comment on the new Crop Circle
COMMENTS This surely is the pinnacle of designs. Celtic in design, a cross nonetheless will surely embrace faiths through out the world.. Will the PRESS and TV ignore this one!? Yet another gift with another yet to come before the season ends, that I'm sure. Andrew Pyrka http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2008/Etchilhampton/Etchilhampton2008a .html
[FairfieldLife] Comment on the Kundalini audio
Thank you for posting that. Being in the Kundalini path and under the guidance of One that has traversed the path from start to Realization, the guidance seems quite different that what MMY is giving, but that makes sense as TM is not the kundalini path. However, some of the guidance in my path can be very usefull for those in TM as dificulties which come up are covered in my path, and this guidance is not available in TM and other paths where the disciples are running into problems, but competant ( and therefore from an enlightened sat guru) should be there, and it is because of the lack of this one to one guidance that difficulties come about. MMY is pointing out in the audio about diffficulties that can come about if kundalini is awakened by one that is not competant, and this aparently is the majority of what takes place. It is rare that a competant guide or Guru is there capable of guiding one in the midst of, or begining of or wanting to enter the Kundalini path. This is not kundalini yoga, it it a path under very careful guidance of a Sat Guru which only works one to one with the disciples, no other way. The pointings in this path are Kundalini as a journey through consciousness. I don't think that the two most recent one's that have come into enlightenment in July and August are even aware of this thin air tube in the body. i think their response would be that the body sleeps, does it 's thing, but that is not who I am for I am not the body, not the mind, and not the conditioned labels. It is more like "I never existed nor will I ever" For when the body, weather it has one quality or another, drops, it has no effect on the consciousness. Knowing about the body and it 's thin breathing tube, while it may hold some amusement, has nothing to do with enlightenment. The body is like the temple, so good to keep it in a good functioning, so that it is easier to meditate, but the essence of the temple is the real significance, so makeing such a huge fuss about the temple can be quite imbalanced to the point of ignoring the essence of the religion in exchange for watering the flowers and mopping the floor every 5 minutes. Since ego is already full blown for the vast majority in the world, and ego being defined here as identification with body, mind and circumstances as being one-s "self", then this is why in the path where I am, there is practically no mention of the body and how to take care of it. It is all to do with the journey of consciousness to unfold enlightenment as soon as possible. The pure consciuosness is already there, so purifying the body has nothing to do with enlightenment- my experience dictates that the higher states are not connected to how my body is fucctioning on a particular day. These are my opinions or experiences Tanmay
[FairfieldLife] Comment on Kundalini and Muktananda
Comment from Swami G picked off a youtube comment to a Guru: Chidvalasananda was not Realized she is in the midst of the journey - Muktananda was not authorized to be a Guru. Nityananda left the form willingly and stated there were None that came that were not seeking out of personal benefit. Maha Shanti OM Post: I remember a TM teacher commenting on Kundalini & TM - maybe after some video where MMY talked about other systems - emphasizing the "naturalness" of spiritual unfoldment with TM in contrast with the more "forceful" and potentially more destabilizing Kundalini "methods" taught elsewhere.. Seems like TM is destabilizing enough for many people..!! Tanmay: I think there is a mixture in TM, I met a Tm teacher who hires prostitutes so he can wrestle with them, so he says. Same with Kundalini awakening- greatest bessing part is expereienceing it in a balanced way. Another post: Maharishi must have realized at some point that the population at large wasn't advanced enough to just pop into BC, so familiar with the symptoms along the way, he tricked us into looking for representative symptoms of growing enlightenment, in order to keep us meditating. Then over time, BC dawns, and Kundalini opens relatively naturally. Tanmay: BC dawns is the end of the kundaliini journey. Kundalini awakening is something that happens within the journey, where shakti meets shiva, it is beyond it Imo, the thing that makes it difficult for many to reach the goal is all of the descriptions of the goal being mistaken for the path- happened with all the religions, and with TM also. The benefit of TM is that with Guru Dev's assistance, each of us continuing the practice will reach the goal. Tanmay: Assistance from a guru no longer in the form? Its probably possible, so it winming the lottery I found personally I had to really go against what I thought would rationally lead me to enlightenment- paradoxically this made the journey much shorter. PS When the Kundalini opens completely, it is an unmistakable phenomenon and quite easily integrated after so many years doing TM.:-) Tanmay- I find that to be the case New post: ---You're on the wrong track. Muktananda gave me "Shaktipat" on a number of occasions, once digging his fingers into my eyeballs at which time a brilliant image of himself showed up in my field of vision. Also I've received "Shaktipat" from his successor, Swami Chidvilisananda. Didn't do me any good. The idea that you must activate your Kundalini first, before "transcending" or realizing the Self is an erronous viewpoint perpetuated (in the l9-th century) by Ramakrishna and his successors. You need to TRANSCEND the Kundalini, not activate it first. Activating it first is in the same category as looking for celesial Lights or Sounds (subtle manifestations of the Kundalini). Ramana Maharshi says "don't look for Lights or Sounds". My recommendation: TM + devotion to Ramana Maharshi. Get "The Sage of Arunachala" DVD and the Veda Parayana audio; and get sucked into Ramana's vast Morphogenetic field. Tanmay: comment at the top about Muk and Swami Chidvilisananda. I find this post all over the place. Kundalini awakens to those ripe for it in the spiritual path. It is shakti in motion, it is not the goal but rather acts like roto rooter clearing the pathways. The transcending is directly related in that I find it leaves the fruit of transcendence or pure consciousness to be know in the midst of activity. The meditation itself, if it were TM would be experienced way deeper with an awakened kundalini and one that was in balance. You say you need to transcend the kundalini, not activate it first? When do you activate it - after you have transcended or even reached the goal? Plus, the way you are speaking here, if this is from a book?I am speaking in this case with direct experience of the kundalini being awakened now. The kundalini activating is not something you can do with one that is not ripe - if you are ripe and the one giving shatipat is a sat Guru, it may awaken- it happens in its own time. Looking for lights and phenomina is not the case, we can call it phenomina- the awakened kundalini- but this should be known for what it is. Phenomina of any sort are signposts along the way, not a place to stop at and camp under, otherwise you never reach the campgrounds. Manifestations of Kundalini? lights and things may happen- a sat Guru who has traversed the whole path of kundalini from start to realization knows how to guide one in the midst of the kudalini journey. My Guru would go along with anything Ramana Maharihsi says. Yes don't look for lights and sounds and get caught up with phenomina- but kundalini is pure shakti- the way one deals with it is up to them. It is like electricty, it is pure but you can use it to light a house or execute someone. Do TM- matra from a living guru, then devote yourself to another Guru not in form?
[FairfieldLife] Comment about Mother Meera and G explains Christ the persona
Hello, Hey, I also want to comment about Mother Meera. A good feeling there, deeply commited for those seeking help. She shifts people around in the positions so that the ego is not promoted . I saw her secretary in the capacity as a mechant collecting the money for the incents, her husband was the door checker. I read all of her books. Among the comments that i never forgot was something to the effect- The problem is everyone thinks they are special, the reality is no one is special and you are not chosen. she also referred to large spiritual organizations and said that sometimes the ego goes the other way than what is usefull. I think this is to do with competing for positions, gaining titles, etc. I would like to reread her books one day when I find the time. Because of the post limit, may as well use this also for a post from Swami G talking which is as clear a light possible for the Jesus folks that hold his, the persona as God: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Namaste This is a wonderfully put together offering that clears the air for those who Preach Jesus - While Christ was an absolutely Perfect Prophet he always pointed mankind towards God - Truth - and beyond fear. Yeshua Ben Joseph never pointed any towards himself He even said - why call me good ? as there are none good save God the Father. Why was this done ? as he was not preaching attach to this persona but Recognise the ONE - When he said i and the Father are ONE - if you have seen me you have seen the Father that sent me - this means that he is speaking from Truth that there is no separation. This is not an affirmation of taking the persona to be god. Maha Shanti OM Now onto this wonderful offering. http://www.submission.org/savior.html "Let there be no compulsion in religion: truth stands out clear from error." Quran 2:256 "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 We have been receiving many e-mails from our Christian brothers and sisters in which they preach to us that Jesus Christ is the Savior and the way. With due respect to them, we cannot accept their notion as it contradicts every known divine scripture including the Old Testament, the New Testament and the Final Testament (Quran). Any sincere student of the scripture will find out that the ONE and ONLY Savior and Redeemer is the One God , the Almighty, the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammed. In the NEW TESTAMENT we see that the idea of every one responsible for his own deed were expressed in Galatians 6:4-7, which states "Each man should look to his conduct; if he has reason to boast of anything, it will be because the achievement is his and not another's. . A man will REAP ONLY what he SOWS." Galatians 6:4 - 7 "Each of us shall give an account of himself to God." Romans 14:12 "Each one will receive his own reward according to his own labor." 1Corinthians 3:8 "Also to you O Lord, belong mercy; for you render to each one according to his work." Psalms 62:12 "And will he not render to each man according to his deeds?" Proverbs 24:12 "The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself." Ezekiel 18:20 If each man reaps what he sows, how can Jesus be the savior ? How could he have taken on the sins of mankind and negated them ? Only the One who accepts repentance and wipes out sins can do that. Indeed throughout the Old Testament, God ALONE is referred to as the SAVIOR. See , 2 Samuel 22:1-3 , and Isaiah 43:3-11 In Isaiah, God Himself speaks, saying clearly that He ALONE is the SAVIOR: "For I am the Lord, your God, the Holy One of Israel, your SAVIORIt is I, the Lord; there is NO SAVIOR BUT ME..." Isaiah 43:3 &11 HE repeats this categorical statement in Hosea: "I am the Lord, your God, since the land of Egypt; You know no God besides me, and there is NO SAVIOR but me." Hosea 13:4 There is also a related concept, the idea of a "REDEEMER". This word has also been exclusively used for God in the Old Testament, e.g. Isaiah 44:24 and Isaiah 60:16 "You shall know that I, the Lord am your SAVIOR, your REDEEMER, the mighty one of Jacob." Isaiah 60:16 The created idea of Jesus being the Savior can only be witnessed in the New Testament where the alteration has been highly suspected because of its complete contradiction to the Old Testament that came from the same God. God does not change His mind. God does not call Himself the ONLY SAVIOR then decides to change that and call Jesus the Savior. This term describing Jesus as the Savior was used only twice in the N.T. This is noted in Lk.ii 11 and in Jn. iv 42. Besides these two occurrences , the only other occurrence in the Gospels clearly refers to God, not Jesus : "Then Mary said: "My being proclaims the greatness of the Lord. My spirit finds joy in God , MY SAVIOR, For He has looked upon his servant in her lowliness..." Luke 1: 46-48 W
Re: [FairfieldLife] comment from Dana Sawyer
On May 9, 2007, at 2:04 PM, Rick Archer wrote: "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: What are the criteria (for being a pundit)? Is there some certification? Dana: One must be a brahmin from a pandit family. If a non-brahmin somehow snuck in there but nobody knew, would it negate the whole thing? Sal
[FairfieldLife] comment from Dana Sawyer
"Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >What are the criteria (for being a pundit)? Is there some certification? Dana: One must be a brahmin from a pandit family. One must learn Sanskrit in the traditional manner and master a prescribed text. When one has achieved mastery there is a formal ceremony to acknowledge him as such. You can just grab someone and say, "hey, want to be a pandit?" BTW, pandits tend to have formal alligences to specific textual traditions, temples and ashrams, and are not easily subsumable into one large body of pandits.
[FairfieldLife] Comment of the day from a Fairfield friend
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