[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Most Educated Countries in the World
Nope, running a marathon is endurance - OTOH, spanking a spiritual group for twenty years is called obsession, but it doesn't smell like perfume. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Yeah, it's fun to join a spiritual group and make fun of them, for an hour or two. But, for twenty years? Go figure. It's called endurance.
RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Most Educated Countries in the World
No shit! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Yeah, it's fun to join a spiritual group and make fun of them, for an hour or two. But, for twenty years? Go figure. On 10/18/2013 9:38 AM, Share Long wrote: What I mainly object to is trashing people that a person does not even know either in person or even online! On Friday, October 18, 2013 9:13 AM, "authfriend@..." mailto:authfriend@... mailto:authfriend@... wrote: Barry wrote: (snip) > There is simply NOTHING that any of its detractors > could make up about the TMO that is worse or more > damning than stuff it's already done. Well, heck, you made this up: > I would suggest that sponsoring "Immortality > Courses" that promise you'll never die if you > take them and charging a fortune for them falls > into the same ballpark re the TMO. You know, it's odd, but generally speaking, the older one gets, the better sense of proportionality one has. With Barry, it's the reverse: > In other contexts, a great recent quote was that > the Republican Party has made satire redundant. > Because nothing that people can dream up to say > about them is as bad as the stuff they really do. To suggest that the TMO has ever done anything anywhere near as bad as the stunt the Republicans just tried, in terms of sheer malice, recklessness, and wanton destructiveness, is simply insane. For once, Share made a meaningful observation: "turq, dummy or not, one thing I get is that some people are just as invested in trashing the TMO as they say others are in not trashing it!" "Invested in" doesn't quite cover it, though, in Barry's case. Obsessed by or consumed by trashing the TMO are more like it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Most Educated Countries in the World
Yeah, it's fun to join a spiritual group and make fun of them, for an hour or two. But, for twenty years? Go figure. On 10/18/2013 9:38 AM, Share Long wrote: What I mainly object to is trashing people that a person does not even know either in person or even online! On Friday, October 18, 2013 9:13 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" wrote: *Barry wrote:* *(snip)* > There is simply NOTHING that any of its detractors > could make up about the TMO that is worse or more > damning than stuff it's already done. *Well, heck, you made /this/ up: * > I would suggest that sponsoring "Immortality > Courses" that promise you'll never die if you > take them and charging a fortune for them falls > into the same ballpark re the TMO. You know, it's odd, but generally speaking, the older one gets, the better sense of proportionality one has. With Barry, it's the reverse: > In other contexts, a great recent quote was that > the Republican Party has made satire redundant. > Because nothing that people can dream up to say > about them is as bad as the stuff they really do. To suggest that the TMO has ever done anything anywhere /near/ as bad as the stunt the Republicans just tried, in terms of sheer malice, recklessness, and wanton destructiveness, is simply insane. For once, Share made a meaningful observation: "turq, dummy or not, one thing I get is that some people are just as invested in trashing the TMO as they say others are in not trashing it!" "Invested in" doesn't quite cover it, though, in Barry's case. Obsessed by or consumed by trashing the TMO are more like it.
Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Most Educated Countries in the World
What I mainly object to is trashing people that a person does not even know either in person or even online! On Friday, October 18, 2013 9:13 AM, "authfri...@yahoo.com" wrote: Barry wrote: (snip) > There is simply NOTHING that any of its detractors > could make up about the TMO that is worse or more > damning than stuff it's already done. Well, heck, you made this up: > I would suggest that sponsoring "Immortality > Courses" that promise you'll never die if you > take them and charging a fortune for them falls > into the same ballpark re the TMO. You know, it's odd, but generally speaking, the older one gets, the better sense of proportionality one has. With Barry, it's the reverse: > In other contexts, a great recent quote was that > the Republican Party has made satire redundant. > Because nothing that people can dream up to say > about them is as bad as the stuff they really do. To suggest that the TMO has ever done anything anywhere near as bad as the stunt the Republicans just tried, in terms of sheer malice, recklessness, and wanton destructiveness, is simply insane. For once, Share made a meaningful observation: "turq, dummy or not, one thing I get is that some people are just as invested in trashing the TMO as they say others are in not trashing it!" "Invested in" doesn't quite cover it, though, in Barry's case. Obsessed by or consumed by trashing the TMO are more like it.
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Most Educated Countries in the World
Barry wrote: (snip) > There is simply NOTHING that any of its detractors > could make up about the TMO that is worse or more > damning than stuff it's already done. Well, heck, you made this up: > I would suggest that sponsoring "Immortality > Courses" that promise you'll never die if you > take them and charging a fortune for them falls > into the same ballpark re the TMO. You know, it's odd, but generally speaking, the older one gets, the better sense of proportionality one has. With Barry, it's the reverse: > In other contexts, a great recent quote was that > the Republican Party has made satire redundant. > Because nothing that people can dream up to say > about them is as bad as the stuff they really do. To suggest that the TMO has ever done anything anywhere near as bad as the stunt the Republicans just tried, in terms of sheer malice, recklessness, and wanton destructiveness, is simply insane. For once, Share made a meaningful observation: "turq, dummy or not, one thing I get is that some people are just as invested in trashing the TMO as they say others are in not trashing it!" "Invested in" doesn't quite cover it, though, in Barry's case. Obsessed by or consumed by trashing the TMO are more like it.
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Most Educated Countries in the World
John, I'm sorry about your parents. I was mainly replying to your saying that death is obviously not a pleasant experience. From what I've heard and read, it can be quite positive for all concerned even though very sad. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Share, We should remember that those who are dying in hospices or hospitals are most likely given a heavy doze of pain relievers like morphine. So, death for them would appear peaceful and blissful. Nonetheless, the fact remains that death is a loss of life and of a loved one by family members. For this reason, I stated that it is not a pleasant experience. I witnessed my parents die in the hospital, and for my part the experience was definitely not blissful. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: John, just to share that death notices on the bulletin board of the coat room in the women's Dome often say that the person passed peacefully and or blissfully surrounded by friends and family. On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:03 AM, "jr_esq@..." wrote: Richard, A Dominican priest, who heads a hospice center here in the Bay Area, stated that 90 percent of us will know when death is near. So, he's saying that for most of us, we can prepare for death. But he didn't say that euthanasia is the answer. IMO, death is a rite of passage that should be respected in a natural way, and not hastened by unnatural means. It is a transforming experience both for the dying person and the family members. But it obviously is not a pleasant one. ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: CULTURE: “I’m looking for early symptoms of acceptance of euthanasia, which I believe will creep in as we Baby Boomers become more and more of a burden.” 'Sympathy for the euthanists' Posted by Ann Althouse: http://althouse.blogspot.com/2013/09/sympathy-for-euthanists.html http://althouse.blogspot.com/2013/09/sympathy-for-euthanists.html On 10/16/2013 9:23 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... wrote: Seraphita, Based on historical records, it's apparent that the family unit is the best natural way to maintain or improve the quality of people in a given society. There is no doubt that genetics are involved in some individuals who excel in science, business or sports. As such, the natural way of selection is promoted to let people enjoy the quality of life that is most beneficial for the entire world. IMO, this is the reason why eugenics, as practiced by the Nazi's and some people here in the USA, won't work as it would interfere with nature's functioning. Similarly, this is the reason why Osho's experiment of having a communal family didn't work. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Re "Thus, there is a strong argument for having a cohesive family unit in order to have a stable population in any country.": That makes good sense . . . but would you *completely* rule out a genetic component in this case? It's such a controversial minefield, and - rather like global warming - you need to invest so much effort into studying the relevant data that I can't be bothered. I'd keep an open mind though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Carde, According to Wikipedia, the Jewish population is only about 2 percent of the entire US population. But they do appear to have many successful people in this country, including Einstein and Barbara Streisand. IMO, it shows that the Jewish families encourage their children to be successful in whatever field they choose to work in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews Thus, there is a strong argument for having a cohesive family unit in order to have a stable population in any country. If the family unit is in disarray, guess what would happen to the entire country? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:cardemaister@... wrote: I'm afraid without Abraham's descendants US might be way worse off, or stuff. In scientific documentaries from the US of A, usually at least a half of the experts interviewed appear to have Jewish family names?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com wrote: Would you believe Russia is on top of this list? And, the USA is only on the 5th place. But the US has a secret weapon by offering "Genius" visas to the best and brightest from countries around the world. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-educated-countries-world-102232490.html http://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-educated-countries-world-102232490.html
[FairfieldLife] RE: Re: Most Educated Countries in the World
I wonder why he died screaming?? Even with very painful diseases, like stomach cancer, there have been drugs for pain treatment, usually morphine, for a looong time. So, he must have denied the treatment for himself. Or you made it up. Also, having personally witnessed a number of deaths, they were all peaceful, timely, or not. Oftentimes, death is a massive relief, from the unremitting suffering that the body is going through. I did not witness anyone faced with it, being afraid of death - any remorse expressed was more in terms of leaving loved ones behind. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Ann, I don't think people are lying about it. Do you? In this case, I think that Ann's comment, snarky though it may be, is valid. That's *exactly* what True Believers do. Case in point: When Carlos Castaneda died (of cancer) some of his TBs claimed that he "passed peacefully." The real story, according to eyewitnesses, is that he *literally* died screaming. > On Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:16 AM, "awoelflebater@..." > wrote: > > ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com mailto:fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, > wrote: > > > John, just to share that death notices on the bulletin > board of the coat room in the women's Dome often say that > the person passed peacefully and or blissfully surrounded > by friends and family. > > Well, it's highly unlikely that they're going to say > they went out screaming. >
[FairfieldLife] RE: RE: Most Educated Countries in the World
Re "Thus, there is a strong argument for having a cohesive family unit in order to have a stable population in any country.": That makes good sense . . . but would you *completely* rule out a genetic component in this case? It's such a controversial minefield, and - rather like global warming - you need to invest so much effort into studying the relevant data that I can't be bothered. I'd keep an open mind though. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Carde, According to Wikipedia, the Jewish population is only about 2 percent of the entire US population. But they do appear to have many successful people in this country, including Einstein and Barbara Streisand. IMO, it shows that the Jewish families encourage their children to be successful in whatever field they choose to work in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Jews Thus, there is a strong argument for having a cohesive family unit in order to have a stable population in any country. If the family unit is in disarray, guess what would happen to the entire country? ---In fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: I'm afraid without Abraham's descendants US might be way worse off, or stuff. In scientific documentaries from the US of A, usually at least a half of the experts interviewed appear to have Jewish family names?? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote: Would you believe Russia is on top of this list? And, the USA is only on the 5th place. But the US has a secret weapon by offering "Genius" visas to the best and brightest from countries around the world. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-educated-countries-world-102232490.html http://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-educated-countries-world-102232490.html
