Feste,
As I've mentioned to Judy, these law abiding atheists are such because they
fear the existing laws of society. They know that they'll go to jail if they
misbehave. If the laws don't exist, there is nothing to hold them from
committing acts that may be prohibited by the bible or
There's more to having a good moral compass than just being law-abiding, first
of all. There's more to morality than laws.
Second, you're drawing entirely unwarranted conclusions about what atheist
leaders would do and why. You're just making assumptions without any real facts
to back them
Judy,
I understand what you're saying. Priests who are sexually abusing others,
although they know it's wrong are the signs of the fallen nature of human
beings. It's called the original sin in the bible. If this sin is prevalent
among those who profess faith, IMO it is more so among
Yes, John, I know what he's saying. Do you know what *I'm* saying?
The notion that only religious people have a moral compass is absurd. There
are plenty of atheists who are extremely moral, and plenty of deeply religious
people who are not (think of the Catholic Church's problems with
I see no evidence at all that atheists lead lives that are any less moral than
those of religious people. Atheists may well possess a moral conscience that
holds them to very high ethical standards.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
Judy,
IMO, he's saying that
Judy,
IMO, he's saying that atheists like Stalin and Lenin think that they are gods
onto themselves and can justify acts of infamy by using a material standard,
such as communism or their own ideas and ignore standards based on moral
grounds, ideas based on spiritual values or the realm of