[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There has not been and there never will be any room for > > > > the unfit. The fit are going to reign, and if the unfit > > > > do not follow, there will be no room for them. Where > > > > light governs there is no room for darkness. In the age > > > > of enlightenment, there is no room for ignorant people. > > > > The ignorant will be enlightened by a few straight, > > > > enlightened people traveling around with that purpose. > > > > Nature will not allow ignorance to reign. It simply > > > > cannot do that. The non-existence of the unfit has > > > > been the law of nature." > > > > > > > > -- Inauguration of the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment, > > > >January 12, 1975, page 47 > > > >Lupidus: Maharishi is absolutely correct, as usual. > > > > > > * > Irmeli:If that is really how MMY understands the mechanics of > rulership, it > > > must be completely clear to him, why there has been very little > > > support of nature and real success in his movement. > > > Lupidus: Probably you are just not being able to see the success. > > Irmeli: Yes there has been certain success on very subtle levels of > manifestation, but MMY:s role in that success is just that of a > messenger boy. He has some role in it, but only some, and of course > even that is something. In that respect he has been successful. But in > my opinion that success has not been dependent on him. It would have > happened also without him. Thats your take. I think Maharishi would be very comfortable being labeled a "messenger boy". > > > > > > >Irmeli: I wonder also how he would explain the success of democracy > in the > > > more advanced and affluent part of the world in the light of this > > > theory of his? > > > > Lupidus:What success - what security ? The monetary sucess could, > along with > > security evaporate overnight. > > Irmeli: > You apparently cannot see a correlation between democracy and less > violence and less injustice and less poverty. I'm sorry, but you do not see the possebility of a total breakdown of the values you cherish; democracy/less violence/injustice/poverty. You simply feel too safe in your little Finland. About 15 years ago Maharishi said something in the line of; The bombs could go off in Denmark any time, no democracy is safe today; create big coherencecreating groups now ! (This is not a direct quote). But everyone thought MMY had gone mad; from where could little Denmark be challenged ? Now we now. We also know that everything Maharishi says will come to be, sooner or later. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > When it comes to basic necessities, there is very, very little > > disparity between the richest and poorest in America. Contrary to > > what many Leftists would have you believe, the gap between rich and > > poor and narrowed in America over the last 50 years to an almost > > negligible corridor. > > Well, actually, of course, it isn't just "what Leftists > would have you believe," it's cold hard statistics. > "Lies, damned lies, and statistics" comes to mind. The world is less truthful these days. We also have to look at the motivation of the satistition to see if those cold hard statistics reflect the truth accurately. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > wrote: > > > > Yeah, MD servants don't really work all that hard compared to most > > regular people. If I were in that situation, I'd rather do service > > than constantly bs donors to keep the monthly checks coming in > > order to save the world. > > > > My gripe is that the foundation for the MD feudal structure is not > > SERVICE, it's MONEY, and the belief system there that RICH = > > Support of Nature = More Enlightened = Get to Act like a bitchy > > Queen. > > Careful, Mark. You're griping about the mechanics > of the Laws of Nature. According to this Maharishi > quote, acting like a bitchy queen may be just what > the doctor ordered. :-) > > "There has not been and there never will be any room for > the unfit. The fit are going to reign, and if the unfit > do not follow, there will be no room for them. Where > light governs there is no room for darkness. In the age > of enlightenment, there is no room for ignorant people. > The ignorant will be enlightened by a few straight, > enlightened people traveling around with that purpose. > Nature will not allow ignorance to reign. It simply > cannot do that. The non-existence of the unfit has > been the law of nature." > > -- Inauguration of the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment, >January 12, 1975, page 47 > > The last time I read a paragraph that contained that > kind of talk about the 'unfit' and 'ignorant people,' > and about the destiny of certain people to lead, it > was written by Joesph Goebbels. > > But seriously, you've put your finger on it. The > foundation of Maharishi's 'elite' is not service, > but money. > OF course, as you no doubt know but neglect to mention, the contextof the above quote was the finding that 1% of a population practicing TM would have an effecton the rest of the world. The "unfit" wouldn't be allowed to exist due to the Maharishi effect. Either they would change, or they would simply go to some other existence that would support their non-lifesupporting lifestyle. A rather optimistic view of the world, but hardly extreme given the beliefs that MMY touts. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The MD servant assignment isn't voluntary, it's based on > > > finances. > > > > > > Personally I like service, which is one reason I've moved > > > away from the tmo and towards other spiritual paths. I'm > > > not trying to liberate the oppressed MD servants - if they > > > think their spiritual path is to iron the silk saris of rich, > > > manipulative, mood-making princess diana wannabees, that's > > > their choice. I guess it comes from the hindu caste system > > > philosophy, though when you see the MD thing in practice it > > > feels more like the british upstairs-downstairs type of thing. > > > > > > I just think the complex and strictly enforced MD hierarchial > > > structure would make an interesting sociological study. > > > > Wouldn't it make a *tremendous* setting for an > > Agatha Christie-like murder mystery? The "ashram" > > in an Iowa trailer park, and the biggest, meanest > > Princess Diana wanabee trailer-trash bitch MD winds > > up dead as a doornail, with thirty knives sticking > > out of her. Master detective Hercule Pushpam has > > to figure out whodunnit while still getting eight > > hours of program in every day. > > Following up on this, and in the spirit of the > recently-mentioned Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest, > here's the first sentence of the novel: > > Having stumbled over Wilma's dead body on the way > to program, Sandra Submissive found her TM-Sidhi > practice less than...uh...elevating as she sat > solidly on the foam, not flying, her mind filled > with a stream of distubing thoughts -- "I wonder > who whacked the old bitch?"..."I wonder if it would > be more in tune with Natural Law to tell someone > about the body after morning program or wait until > after evening program"..."I wonder what's for lunch > today"..."Do I still have to iron her saris now that > she's dead?"..."If I wait until after evening program > maybe they'll appreciate my one-pointedness and give > me her old trailer" -- and at the last thought she > finally felt the familiar kundalini rush, smiled, and > lifted up off the foam in a graceful arc, butt-bouncing > madly across the room, screaming, "Later!...later!... > much later!" > LMAO! I'm hooked! You guys are on to something here. Your audience would be narrow but vehement nonetheless! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lupidus108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" > wrote: > > > > > > > > > "There has not been and there never will be any room for > > > the unfit. The fit are going to reign, and if the unfit > > > do not follow, there will be no room for them. Where > > > light governs there is no room for darkness. In the age > > > of enlightenment, there is no room for ignorant people. > > > The ignorant will be enlightened by a few straight, > > > enlightened people traveling around with that purpose. > > > Nature will not allow ignorance to reign. It simply > > > cannot do that. The non-existence of the unfit has > > > been the law of nature." > > > > > > -- Inauguration of the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment, > > >January 12, 1975, page 47 > >Lupidus: Maharishi is absolutely correct, as usual. > > > > * Irmeli:If that is really how MMY understands the mechanics of rulership, it > > must be completely clear to him, why there has been very little > > support of nature and real success in his movement. > Lupidus: Probably you are just not being able to see the success. Irmeli: Yes there has been certain success on very subtle levels of manifestation, but MMY:s role in that success is just that of a messenger boy. He has some role in it, but only some, and of course even that is something. In that respect he has been successful. But in my opinion that success has not been dependent on him. It would have happened also without him. > > > >Irmeli: I wonder also how he would explain the success of democracy in the > > more advanced and affluent part of the world in the light of this > > theory of his? > > Lupidus:What success - what security ? The monetary sucess could, along with > security evaporate overnight. Irmeli: You apparently cannot see a correlation between democracy and less violence and less injustice and less poverty. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > When it comes to basic necessities, there is very, very little > > disparity between the richest and poorest in America. Contrary to > > what many Leftists would have you believe, the gap between rich and > > poor and narrowed in America over the last 50 years to an almost > > negligible corridor. > > Well, actually, of course, it isn't just "what Leftists > would have you believe," it's cold hard statistics. > If the statistics you are looking at are things such as net worth and income then, yes, you are correct. But income and net worth do NOT tell you about access to the basic necessities of life. If THAT is the standard upon which we measure poverty and disparity between people then there is almost zero disparity. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When it comes to basic necessities, there is very, very little > disparity between the richest and poorest in America. Contrary to > what many Leftists would have you believe, the gap between rich and > poor and narrowed in America over the last 50 years to an almost > negligible corridor. Well, actually, of course, it isn't just "what Leftists would have you believe," it's cold hard statistics. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > Careful, you two. You're beginning to sound like commie > > hypocrites. > > Care to explain? > > What was either hypocritical OR commie about what > we posted? There was nothing "commie" about it at all. Virtually every communist society, of course, produced the greatest disparity between rich and poor. There were the party member elites who lived like kings and the proletariat who were all equal in their squalor and poverty. It is the capitalist societies that have proven to create the greatest economic "equality". Take the USA, for example. Through a combination of free-market capitalism and social programs, there is very little difference between Bill Gates and the stereotypical image of the African-American child sitting on a heap of garbage in a burned out lot in Bedford-Styvesant. I am not referring, of course, to either net worth or income but, rather, to the real, objective measurements and indicators of poverty and equality: access to the basic necessities of life: health care, nutrition, shelter, clothing, education. When it comes to basic necessities, there is very, very little disparity between the richest and poorest in America. Contrary to what many Leftists would have you believe, the gap between rich and poor and narrowed in America over the last 50 years to an almost negligible corridor. That is why the economic/governmental system in the USA should be a model for the rest of the world when it comes to feeding the poor and equalizing the disparity between rich and poor. And that is why I get very upset when I read or hear that there are "poor" people in America. There is NO poverty in America...it has been eradicated and we should be shouting this from the rooftops for the whole world to hear. To continually harp on how there are poor in America is to commit the worst injustice to the poor of the world OUTSIDE of America. Because if we have, indeed, as I claim, solved the problem of poverty, how do we serve the interests of the poor of the world by directing them AWAY from the solution by claiming that the system in America doesn't work? > I really *was* just reading a tract by > Goebbels earlier today, and its language was sadly > *remarkably* like Maharishi's. And there really *is* > a big difference between performing service and just > sending in a check; anyone who has done both and felt > the difference in the resulting state of consciousness > knows what it is. > > > On Feb 8, 2006, at 8:33 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > The last time I read a paragraph that contained that > > > kind of talk about the 'unfit' and 'ignorant people,' > > > and about the destiny of certain people to lead, it > > > was written by Joesph Goebbels. > > > > > > But seriously, you've put your finger on it. The > > > foundation of Maharishi's 'elite' is not service, > > > but money. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli Mattsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > "There has not been and there never will be any room for > > the unfit. The fit are going to reign, and if the unfit > > do not follow, there will be no room for them. Where > > light governs there is no room for darkness. In the age > > of enlightenment, there is no room for ignorant people. > > The ignorant will be enlightened by a few straight, > > enlightened people traveling around with that purpose. > > Nature will not allow ignorance to reign. It simply > > cannot do that. The non-existence of the unfit has > > been the law of nature." > > > > -- Inauguration of the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment, > >January 12, 1975, page 47 Maharishi is absolutely correct, as usual. > > * > If that is really how MMY understands the mechanics of rulership, it > must be completely clear to him, why there has been very little > support of nature and real success in his movement. Probably you are just not being able to see the success. > > I wonder also how he would explain the success of democracy in the > more advanced and affluent part of the world in the light of this > theory of his? What success - what security ? The monetary sucess could, along with security evaporate overnight. > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > "There has not been and there never will be any room for > > > the unfit. The fit are going to reign, and if the unfit > > > do not follow, there will be no room for them. Where > > > light governs there is no room for darkness. In the age > > > of enlightenment, there is no room for ignorant people. > > > The ignorant will be enlightened by a few straight, > > > enlightened people traveling around with that purpose. > > > Nature will not allow ignorance to reign. It simply > > > cannot do that. The non-existence of the unfit has > > > been the law of nature." > > > > By "unfit," of course, he means not enlightened. > > Oh really? How many non-Brahmins have become > Maharishi pundits? And haven't you been keeping > up with the "Damn Democracy" and "scorpion nation" > rants? I'd say that Maharishi considers a *lot* > of people 'unfit' to perform functions of leader- > ship, and that the issue of ignorance vs. enlight- > enment has nothing to do with it. I wouldn't say ignorance versus enlightenment has nothing to do with it, and it's not at all clear why you would. > > > The last time I read a paragraph that contained that > > > kind of talk about the 'unfit' and 'ignorant people,' > > > and about the destiny of certain people to lead, it > > > was written by Joesph Goebbels. > > > > So Goebbels was talking about ignorance vs. enlightenment? > > No, and neither was Maharishi. > > And you know it. Au contraire, Pierre, and *you* know it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > I thought the lighthearted tone would be obvious, but I guess > > not. Back to the emoticons. :) > > But then you'll provoke the ire of those who are > anti-emoticon. There's just no winning around here. :-) Is anybody around here "anti-emoticon," or did you just make that up in an attempt to divert attention from your goof? (And just *imagine* the rant Barry would have unleashed had it been somebody else who had made the goof...) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Careful, Mark. You're griping about the mechanics > of the Laws of Nature. According to this Maharishi > quote, acting like a bitchy queen may be just what > the doctor ordered. :-) > > "There has not been and there never will be any room for > the unfit. The fit are going to reign, and if the unfit > do not follow, there will be no room for them. Where > light governs there is no room for darkness. In the age > of enlightenment, there is no room for ignorant people. > The ignorant will be enlightened by a few straight, > enlightened people traveling around with that purpose. > Nature will not allow ignorance to reign. It simply > cannot do that. The non-existence of the unfit has > been the law of nature." > > -- Inauguration of the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment, >January 12, 1975, page 47 * If that is really how MMY understands the mechanics of rulership, it must be completely clear to him, why there has been very little support of nature and real success in his movement. I wonder also how he would explain the success of democracy in the more advanced and affluent part of the world in the light of this theory of his? Does he also consider Hitler, Stalin etc.having been fit for their positions and all the people they massacred unfit. Possibly in a long enough time span this theory of his could be valid. Irmeli Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
on 2/8/06 8:33 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > "There has not been and there never will be any room for > the unfit. The fit are going to reign, and if the unfit > do not follow, there will be no room for them. Where > light governs there is no room for darkness. In the age > of enlightenment, there is no room for ignorant people. > The ignorant will be enlightened by a few straight, > enlightened people traveling around with that purpose. > Nature will not allow ignorance to reign. It simply > cannot do that. The non-existence of the unfit has > been the law of nature." > > -- Inauguration of the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment, >January 12, 1975, page 47 He talked a lot about this at Poland Spring (July 1970) too. He kept referring to Darwin's phrase "survival of the fittest" and emphasized that we had to become "fittest" if we wanted to survive. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > "There has not been and there never will be any room for > > the unfit. The fit are going to reign, and if the unfit > > do not follow, there will be no room for them. Where > > light governs there is no room for darkness. In the age > > of enlightenment, there is no room for ignorant people. > > The ignorant will be enlightened by a few straight, > > enlightened people traveling around with that purpose. > > Nature will not allow ignorance to reign. It simply > > cannot do that. The non-existence of the unfit has > > been the law of nature." > > By "unfit," of course, he means not enlightened. Oh really? How many non-Brahmins have become Maharishi pundits? And haven't you been keeping up with the "Damn Democracy" and "scorpion nation" rants? I'd say that Maharishi considers a *lot* of people 'unfit' to perform functions of leader- ship, and that the issue of ignorance vs. enlight- enment has nothing to do with it. > > The last time I read a paragraph that contained that > > kind of talk about the 'unfit' and 'ignorant people,' > > and about the destiny of certain people to lead, it > > was written by Joesph Goebbels. > > So Goebbels was talking about ignorance vs. enlightenment? No, and neither was Maharishi. And you know it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It was a *joke,* Barry, referring back to this line yesterday > from our esteemed Feste: > > I think you're all a bunch of commies, and hypocritical ones > at that. People who have money tend to have more clout than > those who don't. They live in bigger houses, etc., etc. That's > just the way the world is, so why single out MD for criticism? Ah, I see. I must've missed that one. Sorry. > I thought the lighthearted tone would be obvious, but I guess > not. Back to the emoticons. :) But then you'll provoke the ire of those who are anti-emoticon. There's just no winning around here. :-) > On Feb 8, 2006, at 8:51 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > > > > > > Careful, you two. You're beginning to sound like commie > > > hypocrites. > > > > Care to explain? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > wrote: > > > > Yeah, MD servants don't really work all that hard compared to most > > regular people. If I were in that situation, I'd rather do service > > than constantly bs donors to keep the monthly checks coming in > > order to save the world. > > > > My gripe is that the foundation for the MD feudal structure is not > > SERVICE, it's MONEY, and the belief system there that RICH = > > Support of Nature = More Enlightened = Get to Act like a bitchy > > Queen. > > Careful, Mark. You're griping about the mechanics > of the Laws of Nature. According to this Maharishi > quote, acting like a bitchy queen may be just what > the doctor ordered. :-) Just curiously, do we know that MDs with money (or without, for that matter) act like bitchy queens? > "There has not been and there never will be any room for > the unfit. The fit are going to reign, and if the unfit > do not follow, there will be no room for them. Where > light governs there is no room for darkness. In the age > of enlightenment, there is no room for ignorant people. > The ignorant will be enlightened by a few straight, > enlightened people traveling around with that purpose. > Nature will not allow ignorance to reign. It simply > cannot do that. The non-existence of the unfit has > been the law of nature." By "unfit," of course, he means not enlightened. > -- Inauguration of the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment, >January 12, 1975, page 47 > > The last time I read a paragraph that contained that > kind of talk about the 'unfit' and 'ignorant people,' > and about the destiny of certain people to lead, it > was written by Joesph Goebbels. So Goebbels was talking about ignorance vs. enlightenment? > > But seriously, you've put your finger on it. The > foundation of Maharishi's 'elite' is not service, > but money. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
It was a *joke,* Barry, referring back to this line yesterday from our esteemed Feste: I think you're all a bunch of commies, and hypocritical ones at that. People who have money tend to have more clout than those who don't. They live in bigger houses, etc., etc. That's just the way the world is, so why single out MD for criticism? I thought the lighthearted tone would be obvious, but I guess not. Back to the emoticons. :) Sal On Feb 8, 2006, at 8:51 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Careful, you two. You're beginning to sound like commie > hypocrites. Care to explain?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Careful, you two. You're beginning to sound like commie > hypocrites. Care to explain? What was either hypocritical OR commie about what we posted? I really *was* just reading a tract by Goebbels earlier today, and its language was sadly *remarkably* like Maharishi's. And there really *is* a big difference between performing service and just sending in a check; anyone who has done both and felt the difference in the resulting state of consciousness knows what it is. > On Feb 8, 2006, at 8:33 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > The last time I read a paragraph that contained that > > kind of talk about the 'unfit' and 'ignorant people,' > > and about the destiny of certain people to lead, it > > was written by Joesph Goebbels. > > > > But seriously, you've put your finger on it. The > > foundation of Maharishi's 'elite' is not service, > > but money. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Careful, you two. You're beginning to sound like commie hypocrites. > > Sal > > > On Feb 8, 2006, at 8:33 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > The last time I read a paragraph that contained that > > kind of talk about the 'unfit' and 'ignorant people,' > > and about the destiny of certain people to lead, it > > was written by Joesph Goebbels. > > > > But seriously, you've put your finger on it. The > > foundation of Maharishi's 'elite' is not service, > > but money. > The only "servant" I know - who came back from MD - was more than frustrated about the MD "elite". She stopped meditating - and has no connection with the TMO anymore. Ingegerd Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
Careful, you two. You're beginning to sound like commie hypocrites. Sal On Feb 8, 2006, at 8:33 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: The last time I read a paragraph that contained that kind of talk about the 'unfit' and 'ignorant people,' and about the destiny of certain people to lead, it was written by Joesph Goebbels. But seriously, you've put your finger on it. The foundation of Maharishi's 'elite' is not service, but money.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, MD servants don't really work all that hard compared to most > regular people. If I were in that situation, I'd rather do service > than constantly bs donors to keep the monthly checks coming in > order to save the world. > > My gripe is that the foundation for the MD feudal structure is not > SERVICE, it's MONEY, and the belief system there that RICH = > Support of Nature = More Enlightened = Get to Act like a bitchy > Queen. Careful, Mark. You're griping about the mechanics of the Laws of Nature. According to this Maharishi quote, acting like a bitchy queen may be just what the doctor ordered. :-) "There has not been and there never will be any room for the unfit. The fit are going to reign, and if the unfit do not follow, there will be no room for them. Where light governs there is no room for darkness. In the age of enlightenment, there is no room for ignorant people. The ignorant will be enlightened by a few straight, enlightened people traveling around with that purpose. Nature will not allow ignorance to reign. It simply cannot do that. The non-existence of the unfit has been the law of nature." -- Inauguration of the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment, January 12, 1975, page 47 The last time I read a paragraph that contained that kind of talk about the 'unfit' and 'ignorant people,' and about the destiny of certain people to lead, it was written by Joesph Goebbels. But seriously, you've put your finger on it. The foundation of Maharishi's 'elite' is not service, but money. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > Well, it's hard enough trying to live a spiritual life without > also > > having to turn > > > oneself into a socialist! > > > > > > For myself, I think I prefer situations in which I can offer > some > > > service, rather > > > than being the one who receives the service. It seems to offer > more > > > opportunities for personal growth. I remember reading the novel > The > > > Remains of the Day (the one that was made into a film some years > > > ago) and being struck by how the butler described his calling. > > > It 'seemed very much like a master-disciple relationship in > which > > > the person finds complete freedom through service. There is no > > > sense of injustice that "this person has much more than I do and > > > therefore the situation is unfair and I am going to secretly > > > resent it." It's another level of thinking altogether. > > > > > Yes, it is. It's odd how service is often touted here > > as the ultimate spiritual path, yet this path doesn't > > seem to encompass the *servant* role, which is perceived > > to be degrading and humiliating. It's as if service is > > noble only if you're so well off you could choose not to > > engage in it. > > > > > > So much for the dignity of those whose means require them > > to perform humble tasks, I guess. If they're not feeling > > degraded, they *should* be. > > > > * > > My guess is that the only way that the assistants/servants to > wealthy MD can be on the program is to do these lightweight jobs for > wealthy members, which sounds a lot less degrading (let's see, > having to iron the occasional sari in exchange for 8 hrs of TM a > day, with comfortable quarters and great food, not bad), than having > to rub noses with the ignorant masses in a real job where it's a > struggle to do two TM-Siddhi programs a day... Yeah, MD servants don't really work all that hard compared to most regular people. If I were in that situation, I'd rather do service than constantly bs donors to keep the monthly checks coming in order to save the world. My gripe is that the foundation for the MD feudal structure is not SERVICE, it's MONEY, and the belief system there that RICH = Support of Nature = More Enlightened = Get to Act like a bitchy Queen. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > on 2/7/06 10:24 AM, markmeredith2002 at markmeredith@ wrote: > > > > > > Their living situation seems OK to me - what bothers me is the > > > constant pressure to raise sponsorship funds and the social hierarchy > > > that results, clearly distinguishing aristocratic rich ladies from the > > > poor unfortunate lower classes. Sounds more like a Masterpiece > > > Theatre presentation of 19th century London than a spiritual > community. > > > > And MD is much more hierarchical than Purusha. The richer ladies > actually > > have servants, which they euphemistically term "assistants." These > are other > > MD ladies with less money. > > > +++So much for humility and being self suficient. >Housing-? Dont we hear of many cases of people in the past who had > good results living in caves? - and possibly with a poor vastu yet. > They weren't $450,000,000 caves either ;) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
> > The MD servant assignment isn't voluntary, it's based on > > finances. > > > > Personally I like service, which is one reason I've moved > > away from the tmo and towards other spiritual paths. I'm > > not trying to liberate the oppressed MD servants - if they > > think their spiritual path is to iron the silk saris of rich, > > manipulative, mood-making princess diana wannabees, that's > > their choice. I guess it comes from the hindu caste system > > philosophy, though when you see the MD thing in practice it > > feels more like the british upstairs-downstairs type of thing. > > > > I just think the complex and strictly enforced MD hierarchial > > structure would make an interesting sociological study. > > Wouldn't it make a *tremendous* setting for an > Agatha Christie-like murder mystery? The "ashram" > in an Iowa trailer park, and the biggest, meanest > Princess Diana wanabee trailer-trash bitch MD winds > up dead as a doornail, with thirty knives sticking > out of her. Master detective Hercule Pushpam has > to figure out whodunnit while still getting eight > hours of program in every day. Following up on this, and in the spirit of the recently-mentioned Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest, here's the first sentence of the novel: Having stumbled over Wilma's dead body on the way to program, Sandra Submissive found her TM-Sidhi practice less than...uh...elevating as she sat solidly on the foam, not flying, her mind filled with a stream of distubing thoughts -- "I wonder who whacked the old bitch?"..."I wonder if it would be more in tune with Natural Law to tell someone about the body after morning program or wait until after evening program"..."I wonder what's for lunch today"..."Do I still have to iron her saris now that she's dead?"..."If I wait until after evening program maybe they'll appreciate my one-pointedness and give me her old trailer" -- and at the last thought she finally felt the familiar kundalini rush, smiled, and lifted up off the foam in a graceful arc, butt-bouncing madly across the room, screaming, "Later!...later!... much later!" Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The MD servant assignment isn't voluntary, it's based on > finances. > > Personally I like service, which is one reason I've moved > away from the tmo and towards other spiritual paths. I'm > not trying to liberate the oppressed MD servants - if they > think their spiritual path is to iron the silk saris of rich, > manipulative, mood-making princess diana wannabees, that's > their choice. I guess it comes from the hindu caste system > philosophy, though when you see the MD thing in practice it > feels more like the british upstairs-downstairs type of thing. > > I just think the complex and strictly enforced MD hierarchial > structure would make an interesting sociological study. Wouldn't it make a *tremendous* setting for an Agatha Christie-like murder mystery? The "ashram" in an Iowa trailer park, and the biggest, meanest Princess Diana wanabee trailer-trash bitch MD winds up dead as a doornail, with thirty knives sticking out of her. Master detective Hercule Pushpam has to figure out whodunnit while still getting eight hours of program in every day. The thing is, it wouldn't work because no one in the audience would believe the setting, and that people could really live like that. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > on 2/7/06 10:24 AM, markmeredith2002 at markmeredith@ wrote: > > > > > > Their living situation seems OK to me - what bothers me is the > > > constant pressure to raise sponsorship funds and the social hierarchy > > > that results, clearly distinguishing aristocratic rich ladies from the > > > poor unfortunate lower classes. Sounds more like a Masterpiece > > > Theatre presentation of 19th century London than a spiritual > community. > > > > And MD is much more hierarchical than Purusha. The richer ladies > actually > > have servants, which they euphemistically term "assistants." These > are other > > MD ladies with less money. > > > +++So much for humility and being self suficient. >Housing-? Dont we hear of many cases of people in the past who had > good results living in caves? - and possibly with a poor vastu yet. > Vastu is for those who are NOT living naturally... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- anonyff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't you think, though, that as a Final Stroke > before he passes on, > Maharishi should get MD and Purusha together, in > some fantabulous > environment, probably in Holland, and, ala Sun Myung > Moon, match them > up and have a giant wedding. It would partially > solve these ongoing > housing problems once and for all. > > Plus with all the bossy uppity upper crust MDers, > there must be enough > wet-noodle submissive men on Purusha to satisfy the > cravings of the > most ardent dominatrix Mother Diviner. Of the men I know on Purusha the "wet-noodle" description does not apply at all. > > > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "markmeredith2002" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante > wrote: > > > > > > from today's http://www.ffledger.com : > > > > > > Mother Divine group occupying houses built for > Indian pundits > > > By Lacey Jacobs, Ledger staff writer 02/06/2006 > > > > > > For a complete story, read the Feb. 6 Fairfield > Ledger. > > > > > > ** > > > > > > These 100 ladies will be occupying about 40% of > the rooms in the > > > trailer park -- rest could be used for Purusha, > or maybe it will be > > > a regional residence course center. > > > > MD is occupying the entire campus. The trailers > are set up as 2 > > bedrooms w/a bathroom in the middle. Each woman > gets a 2 room, 1 bath > > suite - sharing a bathroom would be unacceptable. > The top ladies will > > have to get a bigger situation to distinguish > themselves, at least a 4 > > room, 2 bath setup. Plus trailers are needed for > the kitchen and > > dining hall, not yet built, and for meeting rooms. > So the campus is > > full, and no way MD would allow anyone else to > share the campus, > > certainly not purusha in such close proximity. > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't you think, though, that as a Final Stroke before he passes on, > Maharishi should get MD and Purusha together, in some fantabulous > environment, probably in Holland, and, ala Sun Myung Moon, match them > up and have a giant wedding. It would partially solve these ongoing > housing problems once and for all. ...and he could charge $10,000 per couple! > > Plus with all the bossy uppity upper crust MDers, there must be enough > wet-noodle submissive men on Purusha to satisfy the cravings of the > most ardent dominatrix Mother Diviner. > > > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante wrote: > > > > > > from today's http://www.ffledger.com : > > > > > > Mother Divine group occupying houses built for Indian pundits > > > By Lacey Jacobs, Ledger staff writer 02/06/2006 > > > > > > For a complete story, read the Feb. 6 Fairfield Ledger. > > > > > > ** > > > > > > These 100 ladies will be occupying about 40% of the rooms in the > > > trailer park -- rest could be used for Purusha, or maybe it will be > > > a regional residence course center. > > > > MD is occupying the entire campus. The trailers are set up as 2 > > bedrooms w/a bathroom in the middle. Each woman gets a 2 room, 1 bath > > suite - sharing a bathroom would be unacceptable. The top ladies will > > have to get a bigger situation to distinguish themselves, at least a 4 > > room, 2 bath setup. Plus trailers are needed for the kitchen and > > dining hall, not yet built, and for meeting rooms. So the campus is > > full, and no way MD would allow anyone else to share the campus, > > certainly not purusha in such close proximity. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/7/06 10:24 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Their living situation seems OK to me - what bothers me is the > > constant pressure to raise sponsorship funds and the social hierarchy > > that results, clearly distinguishing aristocratic rich ladies from the > > poor unfortunate lower classes. Sounds more like a Masterpiece > > Theatre presentation of 19th century London than a spiritual community. > > And MD is much more hierarchical than Purusha. The richer ladies actually > have servants, which they euphemistically term "assistants." These are other > MD ladies with less money. Oh, that's precious. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/7/06 10:24 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Their living situation seems OK to me - what bothers me is the > > constant pressure to raise sponsorship funds and the social hierarchy > > that results, clearly distinguishing aristocratic rich ladies from the > > poor unfortunate lower classes. Sounds more like a Masterpiece > > Theatre presentation of 19th century London than a spiritual community. > > And MD is much more hierarchical than Purusha. The richer ladies actually > have servants, which they euphemistically term "assistants." These are other > MD ladies with less money. > +++So much for humility and being self suficient. Housing-? Dont we hear of many cases of people in the past who had good results living in caves? - and possibly with a poor vastu yet. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > Well, it's hard enough trying to live a spiritual life without also > having to turn > > oneself into a socialist! > > > > For myself, I think I prefer situations in which I can offer some > > service, rather > > than being the one who receives the service. It seems to offer more > > opportunities for personal growth. I remember reading the novel The > > Remains of the Day (the one that was made into a film some years > > ago) and being struck by how the butler described his calling. > > It 'seemed very much like a master-disciple relationship in which > > the person finds complete freedom through service. There is no > > sense of injustice that "this person has much more than I do and > > therefore the situation is unfair and I am going to secretly > > resent it." It's another level of thinking altogether. > > Yes, it is. It's odd how service is often touted here > as the ultimate spiritual path, yet this path doesn't > seem to encompass the *servant* role, which is perceived > to be degrading and humiliating. It's as if service is > noble only if you're so well off you could choose not to > engage in it. > > So much for the dignity of those whose means require them > to perform humble tasks, I guess. If they're not feeling > degraded, they *should* be. > * My guess is that the only way that the assistants/servants to wealthy MD can be on the program is to do these lightweight jobs for wealthy members, which sounds a lot less degrading (let's see, having to iron the occasional sari in exchange for 8 hrs of TM a day, with comfortable quarters and great food, not bad), than having to rub noses with the ignorant masses in a real job where it's a struggle to do two TM-Siddhi programs a day... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, it's hard enough trying to live a spiritual life without also having to turn > oneself into a socialist! > > For myself, I think I prefer situations in which I can offer some > service, rather > than being the one who receives the service. It seems to offer more > opportunities for personal growth. I remember reading the novel The > Remains of the Day (the one that was made into a film some years > ago) and being struck by how the butler described his calling. > It 'seemed very much like a master-disciple relationship in which > the person finds complete freedom through service. There is no > sense of injustice that "this person has much more than I do and > therefore the situation is unfair and I am going to secretly > resent it." It's another level of thinking altogether. Yes, it is. It's odd how service is often touted here as the ultimate spiritual path, yet this path doesn't seem to encompass the *servant* role, which is perceived to be degrading and humiliating. It's as if service is noble only if you're so well off you could choose not to engage in it. So much for the dignity of those whose means require them to perform humble tasks, I guess. If they're not feeling degraded, they *should* be. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sure. And some people like being poor. And African-Americans really > liked slavery too--just think of all the watermelon they could eat, > just like it says in Gone With the Wind. > > Sal > Who pays for all this servant stuff? > > On Feb 7, 2006, at 11:24 AM, feste37 wrote: > > > The assumption seems to be that a "utopian spiritual community" would > > not > > have such distinctions, but why not? Why does everything have to be > > "equal"? > > Perhaps the MD "assistants" enjoy the service they offer to the > > richer MDs. > > Some people like to serve others. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > on 2/7/06 10:24 AM, markmeredith2002 at > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Their living situation seems OK to me - what > > bothers me is the > > > constant pressure to raise sponsorship funds and > > the social hierarchy > > > that results, clearly distinguishing aristocratic > > rich ladies from the > > > poor unfortunate lower classes. Sounds more like > > a Masterpiece > > > Theatre presentation of 19th century London than a > > spiritual community. > > > > And MD is much more hierarchical than Purusha. The > > richer ladies actually > > have servants, which they euphemistically term > > "assistants." These are other > > MD ladies with less money. > > Jesus, what bondage! > Who pays for all this BTW? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
Well, it's hard enough trying to live a spiritual life without also having to turn oneself into a socialist! For myself, I think I prefer situations in which I can offer some service, rather than being the one who receives the service. It seems to offer more opportunities for personal growth. I remember reading the novel The Remains of the Day (the one that was made into a film some years ago) and being struck by how the butler described his calling. It seemed very much like a master-disciple relationship in which the person finds complete freedom through service. There is no sense of injustice that "this person has much more than I do and therefore the situation is unfair and I am going to secretly resent it." It's another level of thinking altogether. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Stop making us think thoughts that we don't like! > > --- feste37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The assumption seems to be that a "utopian spiritual > > community" would not > > have such distinctions, but why not? Why does > > everything have to be "equal"? > > Perhaps the MD "assistants" enjoy the service they > > offer to the richer MDs. > > Some people like to serve others. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > "markmeredith2002" < > > markmeredith@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I think you're all a bunch of commies, and > > hypocritical ones at > > > that. People > > > > who have money tend to have more clout than > > those who don't. They > > > live in > > > > bigger houses, etc., etc. That's just the way > > the world is, so why > > > single out MD > > > > for criticism? > > > > > > That's my point, MD functions the same as the > > normal material world, > > > esp victorian britain - just pointing out the > > contrast from their PR > > > which places them above the world, a utopian > > spiritual community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick > > Archer > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > on 2/7/06 10:24 AM, markmeredith2002 at > > markmeredith@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Their living situation seems OK to me - > > what bothers me is the > > > > > > > constant pressure to raise sponsorship > > funds and the social > > > > > > > hierarchy that results, clearly > > distinguishing aristocratic > > > > > > > rich ladies from the poor unfortunate > > lower classes. Sounds > > > > > > > more like a Masterpiece Theatre > > presentation of 19th century > > > > > > > London than a spiritual community. > > > > > > > > > > > > And MD is much more hierarchical than > > Purusha. The richer ladies > > > > > > actually have servants, which they > > euphemistically > > > > > > term "assistants." These are other MD ladies > > with less money. > > > > > > > > > > Wow. > > > > > > > > > > Compare and contrast to Bono's speech, > > recently posted > > > > > here, and its quiet reminder about "the least > > of these." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ~--> > > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > > poor with hope and healing > > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > > > ~-> > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The assumption seems to be that a "utopian spiritual community" would not > have such distinctions, but why not? Why does everything have to be "equal"? > Perhaps the MD "assistants" enjoy the service they offer to the richer MDs. > Some people like to serve others. Well, "shreyaan sva-dharmo viguNaH para-dharmaat svanuSThitaat"! :) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" < > markmeredith@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > I think you're all a bunch of commies, and hypocritical ones at > > that. People > > > who have money tend to have more clout than those who don't. They > > live in > > > bigger houses, etc., etc. That's just the way the world is, so why > > single out MD > > > for criticism? > > > > That's my point, MD functions the same as the normal material world, > > esp victorian britain - just pointing out the contrast from their PR > > which places them above the world, a utopian spiritual community. > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > on 2/7/06 10:24 AM, markmeredith2002 at markmeredith@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Their living situation seems OK to me - what bothers me is the > > > > > > constant pressure to raise sponsorship funds and the social > > > > > > hierarchy that results, clearly distinguishing aristocratic > > > > > > rich ladies from the poor unfortunate lower classes. Sounds > > > > > > more like a Masterpiece Theatre presentation of 19th century > > > > > > London than a spiritual community. > > > > > > > > > > And MD is much more hierarchical than Purusha. The richer ladies > > > > > actually have servants, which they euphemistically > > > > > term "assistants." These are other MD ladies with less money. > > > > > > > > Wow. > > > > > > > > Compare and contrast to Bono's speech, recently posted > > > > here, and its quiet reminder about "the least of these." > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
Maybe that's what they're all waiting for. Sal On Feb 7, 2006, at 2:07 PM, anonyff wrote: Don't you think, though, that as a Final Stroke before he passes on, Maharishi should get MD and Purusha together, in some fantabulous environment, probably in Holland, and, ala Sun Myung Moon, match them up and have a giant wedding.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Don't you think, though, that as a Final Stroke before he passes on, > Maharishi should get MD and Purusha together, in some fantabulous > environment, probably in Holland, and, ala Sun Myung Moon, match them > up and have a giant wedding. It would partially solve these ongoing > housing problems once and for all. > > Plus with all the bossy uppity upper crust MDers, there must be enough > wet-noodle submissive men on Purusha to satisfy the cravings of the > most ardent dominatrix Mother Diviner. > or perhaps for their next incarnation...Miami Beach, rhinestone- collared chihuahuas all over the place, big chunky diamond rings, designer sunglasses, big brim hats, and cabana boy/perushniks slathering suntan lotion (SP 80, at least) on their MD 'owners'... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
Don't you think, though, that as a Final Stroke before he passes on, Maharishi should get MD and Purusha together, in some fantabulous environment, probably in Holland, and, ala Sun Myung Moon, match them up and have a giant wedding. It would partially solve these ongoing housing problems once and for all. Plus with all the bossy uppity upper crust MDers, there must be enough wet-noodle submissive men on Purusha to satisfy the cravings of the most ardent dominatrix Mother Diviner. -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante wrote: > > > > from today's http://www.ffledger.com : > > > > Mother Divine group occupying houses built for Indian pundits > > By Lacey Jacobs, Ledger staff writer 02/06/2006 > > > > For a complete story, read the Feb. 6 Fairfield Ledger. > > > > ** > > > > These 100 ladies will be occupying about 40% of the rooms in the > > trailer park -- rest could be used for Purusha, or maybe it will be > > a regional residence course center. > > MD is occupying the entire campus. The trailers are set up as 2 > bedrooms w/a bathroom in the middle. Each woman gets a 2 room, 1 bath > suite - sharing a bathroom would be unacceptable. The top ladies will > have to get a bigger situation to distinguish themselves, at least a 4 > room, 2 bath setup. Plus trailers are needed for the kitchen and > dining hall, not yet built, and for meeting rooms. So the campus is > full, and no way MD would allow anyone else to share the campus, > certainly not purusha in such close proximity. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sure. And some people like being poor. And African-Americans really > liked slavery too--just think of all the watermelon they could eat, > just like it says in Gone With the Wind. > > Sal > On Feb 7, 2006, at 11:24 AM, feste37 wrote: > > > The assumption seems to be that a "utopian spiritual community" would > > not > > have such distinctions, but why not? Why does everything have to be > > "equal"? > > Perhaps the MD "assistants" enjoy the service they offer to the > > richer MDs. > > Some people like to serve others. The MD servant assignment isn't voluntary, it's based on finances. Personally I like service, which is one reason I've moved away from the tmo and towards other spiritual paths. I'm not trying to liberate the oppressed MD servants - if they think their spiritual path is to iron the silk saris of rich, manipulative, mood-making princess diana wannabees, that's their choice. I guess it comes from the hindu caste system philosophy, though when you see the MD thing in practice it feels more like the british upstairs-downstairs type of thing. I just think the complex and strictly enforced MD hierarchial structure would make an interesting sociological study. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
Sure. And some people like being poor. And African-Americans really liked slavery too--just think of all the watermelon they could eat, just like it says in Gone With the Wind. Sal On Feb 7, 2006, at 11:24 AM, feste37 wrote: The assumption seems to be that a "utopian spiritual community" would not have such distinctions, but why not? Why does everything have to be "equal"? Perhaps the MD "assistants" enjoy the service they offer to the richer MDs. Some people like to serve others.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > on 2/7/06 10:24 AM, markmeredith2002 at > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Their living situation seems OK to me - what > > bothers me is the > > > constant pressure to raise sponsorship funds and > > the social hierarchy > > > that results, clearly distinguishing aristocratic > > rich ladies from the > > > poor unfortunate lower classes. Sounds more like > > a Masterpiece > > > Theatre presentation of 19th century London than a > > spiritual community. > > > > And MD is much more hierarchical than Purusha. The > > richer ladies actually > > have servants, which they euphemistically term > > "assistants." These are other > > MD ladies with less money. > > Jesus, what bondage! They're into *that*, too? :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
Stop making us think thoughts that we don't like! --- feste37 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The assumption seems to be that a "utopian spiritual > community" would not > have such distinctions, but why not? Why does > everything have to be "equal"? > Perhaps the MD "assistants" enjoy the service they > offer to the richer MDs. > Some people like to serve others. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "markmeredith2002" < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > wrote: > > > > > > I think you're all a bunch of commies, and > hypocritical ones at > > that. People > > > who have money tend to have more clout than > those who don't. They > > live in > > > bigger houses, etc., etc. That's just the way > the world is, so why > > single out MD > > > for criticism? > > > > That's my point, MD functions the same as the > normal material world, > > esp victorian britain - just pointing out the > contrast from their PR > > which places them above the world, a utopian > spiritual community. > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick > Archer > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > on 2/7/06 10:24 AM, markmeredith2002 at > markmeredith@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Their living situation seems OK to me - > what bothers me is the > > > > > > constant pressure to raise sponsorship > funds and the social > > > > > > hierarchy that results, clearly > distinguishing aristocratic > > > > > > rich ladies from the poor unfortunate > lower classes. Sounds > > > > > > more like a Masterpiece Theatre > presentation of 19th century > > > > > > London than a spiritual community. > > > > > > > > > > And MD is much more hierarchical than > Purusha. The richer ladies > > > > > actually have servants, which they > euphemistically > > > > > term "assistants." These are other MD ladies > with less money. > > > > > > > > Wow. > > > > > > > > Compare and contrast to Bono's speech, > recently posted > > > > here, and its quiet reminder about "the least > of these." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
The assumption seems to be that a "utopian spiritual community" would not have such distinctions, but why not? Why does everything have to be "equal"? Perhaps the MD "assistants" enjoy the service they offer to the richer MDs. Some people like to serve others. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > I think you're all a bunch of commies, and hypocritical ones at > that. People > > who have money tend to have more clout than those who don't. They > live in > > bigger houses, etc., etc. That's just the way the world is, so why > single out MD > > for criticism? > > That's my point, MD functions the same as the normal material world, > esp victorian britain - just pointing out the contrast from their PR > which places them above the world, a utopian spiritual community. > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > on 2/7/06 10:24 AM, markmeredith2002 at markmeredith@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Their living situation seems OK to me - what bothers me is the > > > > > constant pressure to raise sponsorship funds and the social > > > > > hierarchy that results, clearly distinguishing aristocratic > > > > > rich ladies from the poor unfortunate lower classes. Sounds > > > > > more like a Masterpiece Theatre presentation of 19th century > > > > > London than a spiritual community. > > > > > > > > And MD is much more hierarchical than Purusha. The richer ladies > > > > actually have servants, which they euphemistically > > > > term "assistants." These are other MD ladies with less money. > > > > > > Wow. > > > > > > Compare and contrast to Bono's speech, recently posted > > > here, and its quiet reminder about "the least of these." > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think you're all a bunch of commies, and hypocritical ones at that. People > who have money tend to have more clout than those who don't. They live in > bigger houses, etc., etc. That's just the way the world is, so why single out MD > for criticism? That's my point, MD functions the same as the normal material world, esp victorian britain - just pointing out the contrast from their PR which places them above the world, a utopian spiritual community. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > > > > > on 2/7/06 10:24 AM, markmeredith2002 at markmeredith@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Their living situation seems OK to me - what bothers me is the > > > > constant pressure to raise sponsorship funds and the social > > > > hierarchy that results, clearly distinguishing aristocratic > > > > rich ladies from the poor unfortunate lower classes. Sounds > > > > more like a Masterpiece Theatre presentation of 19th century > > > > London than a spiritual community. > > > > > > And MD is much more hierarchical than Purusha. The richer ladies > > > actually have servants, which they euphemistically > > > term "assistants." These are other MD ladies with less money. > > > > Wow. > > > > Compare and contrast to Bono's speech, recently posted > > here, and its quiet reminder about "the least of these." > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
I think you're all a bunch of commies, and hypocritical ones at that. People who have money tend to have more clout than those who don't. They live in bigger houses, etc., etc. That's just the way the world is, so why single out MD for criticism? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > on 2/7/06 10:24 AM, markmeredith2002 at markmeredith@ wrote: > > > > > > Their living situation seems OK to me - what bothers me is the > > > constant pressure to raise sponsorship funds and the social > > > hierarchy that results, clearly distinguishing aristocratic > > > rich ladies from the poor unfortunate lower classes. Sounds > > > more like a Masterpiece Theatre presentation of 19th century > > > London than a spiritual community. > > > > And MD is much more hierarchical than Purusha. The richer ladies > > actually have servants, which they euphemistically > > term "assistants." These are other MD ladies with less money. > > Wow. > > Compare and contrast to Bono's speech, recently posted > here, and its quiet reminder about "the least of these." > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 2/7/06 10:24 AM, markmeredith2002 at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Their living situation seems OK to me - what > bothers me is the > > constant pressure to raise sponsorship funds and > the social hierarchy > > that results, clearly distinguishing aristocratic > rich ladies from the > > poor unfortunate lower classes. Sounds more like > a Masterpiece > > Theatre presentation of 19th century London than a > spiritual community. > > And MD is much more hierarchical than Purusha. The > richer ladies actually > have servants, which they euphemistically term > "assistants." These are other > MD ladies with less money. Jesus, what bondage! > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/7/06 10:24 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Their living situation seems OK to me - what bothers me is the > > constant pressure to raise sponsorship funds and the social > > hierarchy that results, clearly distinguishing aristocratic > > rich ladies from the poor unfortunate lower classes. Sounds > > more like a Masterpiece Theatre presentation of 19th century > > London than a spiritual community. > > And MD is much more hierarchical than Purusha. The richer ladies > actually have servants, which they euphemistically > term "assistants." These are other MD ladies with less money. Wow. Compare and contrast to Bono's speech, recently posted here, and its quiet reminder about "the least of these." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
on 2/7/06 10:24 AM, markmeredith2002 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Their living situation seems OK to me - what bothers me is the > constant pressure to raise sponsorship funds and the social hierarchy > that results, clearly distinguishing aristocratic rich ladies from the > poor unfortunate lower classes. Sounds more like a Masterpiece > Theatre presentation of 19th century London than a spiritual community. And MD is much more hierarchical than Purusha. The richer ladies actually have servants, which they euphemistically term "assistants." These are other MD ladies with less money. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > wrote: > > > > The top ladies will have to get a bigger situation to distinguish > > themselves, at least a 4 room, 2 bath setup. > > Excuse me? > > No *wonder* the TMO is so fucked up. > > > So the campus is > > full, and no way MD would allow anyone else to share the campus, > > certainly not purusha in such close proximity. > > Ditto. > > Compare and contrast to, say, Catholic or Buddhist monks > who live in poverty, work all day to support themselves and > their monasteries, and do most of that work out on the > streets, dealing with the Great Unwashed. And if you've ever > known any of them, you know the difference in conscious- > ness that type of reclusive lifestyle produces, compared > to the one you've described above. The latter strikes > me as elitism squared. > Actually the situation for MD in vedic city is much less comfortable than what they had in NC. Now they have 2 relatively small rooms in cheaply built trailers in a brown Iowa field. Their living situation seems OK to me - what bothers me is the constant pressure to raise sponsorship funds and the social hierarchy that results, clearly distinguishing aristocratic rich ladies from the poor unfortunate lower classes. Sounds more like a Masterpiece Theatre presentation of 19th century London than a spiritual community. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The top ladies will have to get a bigger situation to distinguish > themselves, at least a 4 room, 2 bath setup. Excuse me? No *wonder* the TMO is so fucked up. > So the campus is > full, and no way MD would allow anyone else to share the campus, > certainly not purusha in such close proximity. Ditto. Compare and contrast to, say, Catholic or Buddhist monks who live in poverty, work all day to support themselves and their monasteries, and do most of that work out on the streets, dealing with the Great Unwashed. And if you've ever known any of them, you know the difference in conscious- ness that type of reclusive lifestyle produces, compared to the one you've described above. The latter strikes me as elitism squared. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mother Divine in VC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > from today's http://www.ffledger.com : > > Mother Divine group occupying houses built for Indian pundits > By Lacey Jacobs, Ledger staff writer 02/06/2006 > > For a complete story, read the Feb. 6 Fairfield Ledger. > > ** > > These 100 ladies will be occupying about 40% of the rooms in the > trailer park -- rest could be used for Purusha, or maybe it will be > a regional residence course center. MD is occupying the entire campus. The trailers are set up as 2 bedrooms w/a bathroom in the middle. Each woman gets a 2 room, 1 bath suite - sharing a bathroom would be unacceptable. The top ladies will have to get a bigger situation to distinguish themselves, at least a 4 room, 2 bath setup. Plus trailers are needed for the kitchen and dining hall, not yet built, and for meeting rooms. So the campus is full, and no way MD would allow anyone else to share the campus, certainly not purusha in such close proximity. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
