[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: Yes, she is radiant! I have read about her ecstasies, and natural celibacy, too. A very, very interesting, natural and beautiful Being. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: [...] A friend of mine, now in his 90'ies recalled two meetings with Ananda Mayi Ma while travelling with Maharishi in India. During the first they simply sat on cushions on the floor holding hands, not saying a word. With the devotees sitting around them, he said it was the most beautiful event. On a second meeting She had requested to come with him to Europe after his India-tour, a request Maharishi kindly refused. At that time quite a big crowd of female devotees was following Her whenever She went, so Maharishi probably thought of the logistics in having hundreds of guest coming to Seelisberg. Anyway, Ananda Mayi Ma became completely silent and followed him to the car holding a big bouqet of flowers. When his car started to move it was as if She could no longer contain Herself and with a huge scream covered his car with the flowers. Whenever Maharishi went to India, the first thing he did was to enquire about Her whereabouts and sent Her a big bouqet of roses. Her devotees report the event slightly differently, saying that MMY asked HER but she declined. BTW, people like to pretend that no-one ever acknowledged Maharishi's fellow monk, Swami Satananda Saraswati, as Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, ,but here is what her official website says [Note that Swami Satananda Saraswati is the only Shankaracharya ever identified by name, suggesting a desire to clarify who they are talking about]: http://www.anandamayi.org/ashram/cc.htm 1962, 9th June,Dehradun Swami Santanandaji. Shankaracharaya of Jyotir Math comes to Ma and delivers lecture. 1963, May, Calcutta Birthday celebration in Agarpara Ashram, Swami Santananda Shankaracharaya, Joshi Math also attends. They even have a link to a page about Andana Mayi and MMY under the heading Meetings with Saints and Mahatmas: http://www.anandamayi.org/ashram/maheshyogi.htm http://www.anandamayi.org/ashram/maheshyogi.htm The story written here by Her devotees are pretty identical to what I wrote except She showered a basket full of flowers at Maharishi's lap when sitting in the car :-) This apparently happened the same day after he declined Her request for coming with him to Europe. From an unverified report: In 1981 during the Vedic Science course in Delhi, Maharishi sent a large group to the Taj Mahal for a visit. While in Agra, the group heard that the great saint Sri Ananda Mayee Ma was at her place in Vrindavan, which was on the route back to Delhi from Agra. Maharishi enthusiastically said the group should visit her and to take shawls, saris, fruits, garlands, sweets as our gift. The group arrived at twilight and meditated in a group outside her house while waiting for their chance to go up to the roof of the house where she gave darshan. While the group was waiting two giant white birds flew low over her house the celestial quality of the sight made everyone gasp. Dr. Bevan Morris asked the receptionist to inform Sri Ananda Mayee Ma that we were from Maharishi. But the group had to go up in sections of ten as the space was limited. Dr. Morris went up in the last group, and found that Sri Ananda Mayee Ma was sitting deeply withdrawn not paying attention to the people coming and going, and the pile of cloth, flowers, fruit etc. that had been placed in front of her. At that stage she was very elderly, and near the end of her Earth days. It was immediately obvious to Dr. Morris that she had not been told that this was Maharishi's group. He asked the administrator again to please tell Sri Ananda Mayee Ma that these people were sent by Maharishi to see her. The administrator began to speak to her in Bengali and at the point where he said Maharishi Mahesh Yogi Sri Ananda Mayee Ma suddenly sat bolt upright and folded her palms together, and then started grabbing fruits and flowers and wrapping them up in packages, and giving them to us to deliver to Maharishi. Then she gave a sublime message of devoted greeting and love to convey to Maharishi. The group upon reaching Delhi delivered this message to Maharishi's great joy. On another occasion Maharishi was doing Puja with Sri Ananda Mayee Ma at her place in Haridwar, but finally Maharishi had to go. He told Sri Ananda Mayee Ma, Ma you stay here and continue, and I will go. She seemed to agree and let him go, but after a few moments got up and followed Maharishi out to the car, walking a little behind him with the sweetness of a small child. There was a mala wala - a garland salesman - with a basket full to the brim with marigold garlands on the street there, and Sri Ananda
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Thank you for sharing those stories. Wonderful. I cannot imagine being in the presence of someone so intoxicated, and radiant, from the Divine. I don't think anyone could forget it. She is very true to herself. She was the Self. According to Benjamin Creme's Master She was an Avatar. That's why rays, stage of development at the time of passing etc. is not listed in the List of Initiates. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Yes, she is radiant! I have read about her ecstasies, and natural celibacy, too. A very, very interesting, natural and beautiful Being. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. Yee Dr.D, so beautiful ! Mother Divine seen in a human form here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU A friend of mine, now in his 90'ies recalled two meetings with Ananda Mayi Ma while travelling with Maharishi in India. During the first they simply sat on cushions on the floor holding hands, not saying a word. With the devotees sitting around them, he said it was the most beautiful event. On a second meeting She had requested to come with him to Europe after his India-tour, a request Maharishi kindly refused. At that time quite a big crowd of female devotees was following Her whenever She went, so Maharishi probably thought of the logistics in having hundreds of guest coming to Seelisberg. Anyway, Ananda Mayi Ma became completely silent and followed him to the car holding a big bouqet of flowers. When his car started to move it was as if She could no longer contain Herself and with a huge scream covered his car with the flowers. Whenever Maharishi went to India, the first thing he did was to enquire about Her whereabouts and sent Her a big bouqet of roses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2aCc6i-TkM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vxSv-SdFA8playnext=1list=PL038E4AD987269E23 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVvW8iRtYnQlist=RD02Ou-CC9WxbZU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU http://www.anandamayi.org/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
I really enjoy the uncompromising purity of her heart, and the way Ananda Mayi Ma expresses it. A fierce dancer with life! I've taken a look at BC's Master's rays too, the stages of development at passing, through the links you have shared. Makes sense intuitively, though as much a spiritual work of art, as a science. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Thank you for sharing those stories. Wonderful. I cannot imagine being in the presence of someone so intoxicated, and radiant, from the Divine. I don't think anyone could forget it. She is very true to herself. She was the Self. According to Benjamin Creme's Master She was an Avatar. That's why rays, stage of development at the time of passing etc. is not listed in the List of Initiates. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Yes, she is radiant! I have read about her ecstasies, and natural celibacy, too. A very, very interesting, natural and beautiful Being. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. Yee Dr.D, so beautiful ! Mother Divine seen in a human form here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU A friend of mine, now in his 90'ies recalled two meetings with Ananda Mayi Ma while travelling with Maharishi in India. During the first they simply sat on cushions on the floor holding hands, not saying a word. With the devotees sitting around them, he said it was the most beautiful event. On a second meeting She had requested to come with him to Europe after his India-tour, a request Maharishi kindly refused. At that time quite a big crowd of female devotees was following Her whenever She went, so Maharishi probably thought of the logistics in having hundreds of guest coming to Seelisberg. Anyway, Ananda Mayi Ma became completely silent and followed him to the car holding a big bouqet of flowers. When his car started to move it was as if She could no longer contain Herself and with a huge scream covered his car with the flowers. Whenever Maharishi went to India, the first thing he did was to enquire about Her whereabouts and sent Her a big bouqet of roses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2aCc6i-TkM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vxSv-SdFA8playnext=1list=PL038E4AD987269E23 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVvW8iRtYnQlist=RD02Ou-CC9WxbZU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU http://www.anandamayi.org/
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sparaig: They even have a link to a page about Andana Mayi and MMY under the heading Meetings with Saints and Mahatmas: http://www.anandamayi.org/ashram/maheshyogi.htm In the morning of May 12th, Adi Sankaracharya's birthday, special chanting from the Vedas was performed by the pandits in front of the temple. While Adi Sankaracharya' puja was being celebrated, twelve Mahamandaleswaras had foregathered in their special seats in the hail. Erudite speeches were given by Swamis Prakashanandaji, Vidyanandaji, Hansa Prakashji, Shyamsunder Sastriji, Govindanandaji, etc. All of them praised Mataji's efforts to inculcate the worship of Adi Sankaracharya in our Ashram and expressed the hope that this would be followed by classes in Advaita Vedanta and participation in religious concourses in future. The Mahatmas have gone even further: they have persuaded Mataji to open the Silver Jubilee of the All India Bharat Vedanta Mahsamelan in April 1979, to be held by Swami Purnananda Giriji in Sri Krishna Nivas Ashram, Kankhal. The Advent of Sri Sri Adi Sankaracharya By R. K. Banerjee (A.V. vol.25/78/4) http://www.anandamayi.org/sadhana/mlt.html
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: I really enjoy the uncompromising purity of her heart, and the way Ananda Mayi Ma expresses it. A fierce dancer with life! I've taken a look at BC's Master's rays too, the stages of development at passing, through the links you have shared. Makes sense intuitively, though as much a spiritual work of art, as a science. It could be part of a much needed new Science for the Age of Enlightenment :-) But since the name of BC's Master is unknown to us I wonder who's rays you were studying ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2aCc6i-TkM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vxSv-SdFA8playnext=1list=PL038E4AD987269E23 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVvW8iRtYnQlist=RD02Ou-CC9WxbZU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU http://www.anandamayi.org/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@ wrote: The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. God is our projection of human qualities onto our concept of unity, of completeness, of totality. It is not in charge of anything. Unity gives the experience of what that word 'God', - so misleading - was attempting to elucidate, but in reality falls short in its imaginary presumption. LOL. Tell that to God. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business. Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart chakra together on this. Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise. Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this. Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then Know. I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology. There is in fact tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field. Ask and you shall receive. All the Best, -Buck
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Ok, Doc, you got me chuckling here, what with Hanuman eating fast bananas etc. Thanks. I probably should of listened to Tina and the kids singing the peace chant anyway and that's why IT'S ALL SPINNING OUT OF CONTROL LOL. Plus how stupid I was to be blaming Mars and Sun in Aries! Though to be completely fair I must add that in Finland they're almost in Taurus. Oy, more spinning (-: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XP-f7wPM0A From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? Thank you. And be careful of that Devi chant. I've heard that if you listen to it even one nano-second past the end of the Ninth Day of Mother Divine, GMT, yagyas turn to Yugas, and the whole thing goes sideways faster than Hanuman can eat a banana. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: thanks for this, Doc, very beautiful. And Nablusoss, thanks for posting the Devi chant. I've been listening to it every morning during the 9 Days of Mother Divine. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?  The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of discussion for FFL. From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?  The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. Yee Dr.D, so beautiful ! Mother Divine seen in a human form here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
Yes, she is radiant! I have read about her ecstasies, and natural celibacy, too. A very, very interesting, natural and beautiful Being. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. Yee Dr.D, so beautiful ! Mother Divine seen in a human form here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU
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Oh please stop slandering her just because she loves me. She's radiant all right not celibate - please hate me for that not her. On Apr 19, 2013, at 2:16 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote: Yes, she is radiant! I have read about her ecstasies, and natural celibacy, too. A very, very interesting, natural and beautiful Being. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. Yee Dr.D, so beautiful ! Mother Divine seen in a human form here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Yes, she is radiant! I have read about her ecstasies, and natural celibacy, too. A very, very interesting, natural and beautiful Being. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. Yee Dr.D, so beautiful ! Mother Divine seen in a human form here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU A friend of mine, now in his 90'ies recalled two meetings with Ananda Mayi Ma while travelling with Maharishi in India. During the first they simply sat on cushions on the floor holding hands, not saying a word. With the devotees sitting around them, he said it was the most beautiful event. On a second meeting She had requested to come with him to Europe after his India-tour, a request Maharishi kindly refused. At that time quite a big crowd of female devotees was following Her whenever She went, so Maharishi probably thought of the logistics in having hundreds of guest coming to Seelisberg. Anyway, Ananda Mayi Ma became completely silent and followed him to the car holding a big bouqet of flowers. When his car started to move it was as if She could no longer contain Herself and with a huge scream covered his car with the flowers. Whenever Maharishi went to India, the first thing he did was to enquire about Her whereabouts and sent Her a big bouqet of roses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2aCc6i-TkM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vxSv-SdFA8playnext=1list=PL038E4AD987269E23 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVvW8iRtYnQlist=RD02Ou-CC9WxbZU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ou-CC9WxbZU http://www.anandamayi.org/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Yes, she is radiant! I have read about her ecstasies, and natural celibacy, too. A very, very interesting, natural and beautiful Being. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote: [...] A friend of mine, now in his 90'ies recalled two meetings with Ananda Mayi Ma while travelling with Maharishi in India. During the first they simply sat on cushions on the floor holding hands, not saying a word. With the devotees sitting around them, he said it was the most beautiful event. On a second meeting She had requested to come with him to Europe after his India-tour, a request Maharishi kindly refused. At that time quite a big crowd of female devotees was following Her whenever She went, so Maharishi probably thought of the logistics in having hundreds of guest coming to Seelisberg. Anyway, Ananda Mayi Ma became completely silent and followed him to the car holding a big bouqet of flowers. When his car started to move it was as if She could no longer contain Herself and with a huge scream covered his car with the flowers. Whenever Maharishi went to India, the first thing he did was to enquire about Her whereabouts and sent Her a big bouqet of roses. Her devotees report the event slightly differently, saying that MMY asked HER but she declined. BTW, people like to pretend that no-one ever acknowledged Maharishi's fellow monk, Swami Satananda Saraswati, as Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math, ,but here is what her official website says [Note that Swami Satananda Saraswati is the only Shankaracharya ever identified by name, suggesting a desire to clarify who they are talking about]: http://www.anandamayi.org/ashram/cc.htm 1962, 9th June,Dehradun Swami Santanandaji. Shankaracharaya of Jyotir Math comes to Ma and delivers lecture. 1963, May, Calcutta Birthday celebration in Agarpara Ashram, Swami Santananda Shankaracharaya, Joshi Math also attends. They even have a link to a page about Andana Mayi and MMY under the heading Meetings with Saints and Mahatmas: http://www.anandamayi.org/ashram/maheshyogi.htm L
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thanks for this, Doc, very beautiful. And Nablusoss, thanks for posting the Devi chant. I've been listening to it every morning during the 9 Days of Mother Divine. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of discussion for FFL. From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?  The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business. Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart chakra together on this. Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise. Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this. Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then Know. I do feel a root
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Thank you. And be careful of that Devi chant. I've heard that if you listen to it even one nano-second past the end of the Ninth Day of Mother Divine, GMT, yagyas turn to Yugas, and the whole thing goes sideways faster than Hanuman can eat a banana. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@... wrote: thanks for this, Doc, very beautiful. And Nablusoss, thanks for posting the Devi chant. I've been listening to it every morning during the 9 Days of Mother Divine. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?  The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of discussion for FFL. From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? àThe unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? Ãâà--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business. Son
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business. Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart chakra together on this. Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise. Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this. Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then Know. I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology. There is in fact tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field. Ask and you shall receive. All the Best, -Buck For them who are not established have no steady-intellect, nor have they any steady thought. The human without steady thought has no peace; for one without peace how can there be happiness?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business. Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart chakra together on this. Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise. Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this. Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then Know. I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology. There is in fact tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field. Ask and you shall receive. All the Best, -Buck For them who are not established have no steady-intellect, nor have they any steady thought. The human without steady thought has no peace; for one without peace how can there be happiness? Spiritual Neurophysiology. It might take some spiritual effort [as in self-discipline of your own] to pursue but someone who could be really useful in this for folks who are stuck might be Janet Sussman. She is really good at helping fix people's subtle systems. She has helped quite a lot of meditators from the top down over the years here who were having troubles with their meditations and the spiritual progress in their subtle neurophysiologies of the body-mind complex. Rick interviewed her on Batgap http://batgap.com/janet-sussman/ She's been very helpful to a lot of people this way. Yes, a saint this way. She's very accessible and helpful that way. Best of hope, -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business. Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart chakra together on this. Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise. Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this. Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then Know. I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology. There is in fact tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field. Ask and you shall receive. All the Best, -Buck For them who are not established have no steady-intellect, nor have they any steady thought. The human without steady thought has no peace; for one without peace how can there be happiness? Spiritual Neurophysiology. It might take some spiritual effort [as in self-discipline of your own] to pursue but someone who could be really useful in this for folks who are stuck might be Janet Sussman. She is really good at helping fix people's subtle systems. She has helped quite a lot of meditators from the top down over the years here who were having troubles with their meditations and the spiritual progress in their subtle neurophysiologies of the body-mind complex. Rick interviewed her on Batgap http://batgap.com/janet-sussman/ She's been very helpful to a lot of people this way. Yes, a saint this way. She's very accessible and helpful that way. Best of hope, -Buck I do not have any problems with my meditation Buck. Better not use the word 'saint'. Even a hint of saintliness could get you banned from the the dome. And regards to the material that started this short exchange. You do realise that the goals of the world plan are fulfilled in one's experience upon awakening, but not for the experience of others still asleep. For them to be fulfilled for everyone, all would have to awaken. The funny thing about this is the value that one awakens to is always and has always been present.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. God is our projection of human qualities onto our concept of unity, of completeness, of totality. It is not in charge of anything. Unity gives the experience of what that word 'God', - so misleading - was attempting to elucidate, but in reality falls short in its imaginary presumption. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business. Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart chakra together on this. Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise. Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this. Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then Know. I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology. There is in fact tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field. Ask and you shall receive. All the Best, -Buck
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Very well said. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:59 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. God is our projection of human qualities onto our concept of unity, of completeness, of totality. It is not in charge of anything. Unity gives the experience of what that word 'God', - so misleading - was attempting to elucidate, but in reality falls short in its imaginary presumption. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business. Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart chakra together on this. Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise. Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this. Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then Know. I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology. There is in fact tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field. Ask and you shall receive. All the Best, -Buck
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: What would you say the demands of the Unified Field are? Sorry to butt into this conversation, but according to an e-mail the unified field sent me, it is requiring that I deposit a certain specified sum of money in a particular bank account or it will fine me US$39. That means I have to stop posting and get off my butt, and work out a way to adjust this particular aspect of absolute being, or I can still just sit on my butt, and probably there will be more messages with more demands. I have a memory that this is a possible alternative. What should I do? Should I consult the Oracle at Delphi, which unfortunately is some 7,700km away from where I live now, or should a consult a financial expert at great cost ('I think perhaps you should put some money in that account')? Or maybe I should consult a saint and get their blessing ('meditate on the Divine Mother, and all will be well')? Should I sit and meditate, in the hope that all the laws of nature will support? Life is just so perplexing. One just does not know where to turn to get someone to do something for you for free. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?  Yeah, true, the unified field goes about stuff in exactly one way, and if we decide to do things another way, we get hurt. Automatically. For example, every time I jump up, and move my body into a horizontal position, and then fall onto a hard surface, it hurts like hell. So who's fault is that? To say dismissively that the unified field doesn't give a crap about us, is only half right. When we discover what the unified field wants, simply by conforming to its demands, in subtler and subtler ways, we eventually learn that there is a method to the madness, which incorporates madness itself. It seems illogical, in opposition to all of me. And it is. The unified field definitely calls the shots, and it always wins. However, in full submission to it, is found peace, the living transcendent, ourselves. A perfect paradox, submission and freedom. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Not according to the Yoga Vasistha and other vedic writings - Divine Mother, Divine Father and ANY AND ALL aspects of creation are expressions of the Unified Field as are any and all qualities we might emotionally ascribe to such deities, therefore my original statement stands - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about us in our lives and activities the way we like to fantasize that it does. On a completely different note, but not too dissimilar I see no evidence that there are any Ascended Masters who have this big Divine Plan to make the world into a better place for humanity's benefit - if they do, they have a funny way of showing it. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? àThe impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of discussion for FFL. From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? ÃâàThe unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: What would you say the demands of the Unified Field are? Sorry to butt into this conversation, but according to an e-mail the unified field sent me, it is requiring that I deposit a certain specified sum of money in a particular bank account or it will fine me US$39. That means I have to stop posting and get off my butt, and work out a way to adjust this particular aspect of absolute being, or I can still just sit on my butt, and probably there will be more messages with more demands. I have a memory that this is a possible alternative. What should I do? Should I consult the Oracle at Delphi, which unfortunately is some 7,700km away from where I live now, or should a consult a financial expert at great cost ('I think perhaps you should put some money in that account')? Or maybe I should consult a saint and get their blessing ('meditate on the Divine Mother, and all will be well')? Should I sit and meditate, in the hope that all the laws of nature will support? Life is just so perplexing. One just does not know where to turn to get someone to do something for you for free. Are you KIDDING? You can always get someone at FFL to get mad at you for free. Works every time. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?  Yeah, true, the unified field goes about stuff in exactly one way, and if we decide to do things another way, we get hurt. Automatically. For example, every time I jump up, and move my body into a horizontal position, and then fall onto a hard surface, it hurts like hell. So who's fault is that? To say dismissively that the unified field doesn't give a crap about us, is only half right. When we discover what the unified field wants, simply by conforming to its demands, in subtler and subtler ways, we eventually learn that there is a method to the madness, which incorporates madness itself. It seems illogical, in opposition to all of me. And it is. The unified field definitely calls the shots, and it always wins. However, in full submission to it, is found peace, the living transcendent, ourselves. A perfect paradox, submission and freedom. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Not according to the Yoga Vasistha and other vedic writings - Divine Mother, Divine Father and ANY AND ALL aspects of creation are expressions of the Unified Field as are any and all qualities we might emotionally ascribe to such deities, therefore my original statement stands - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about us in our lives and activities the way we like to fantasize that it does. On a completely different note, but not too dissimilar I see no evidence that there are any Ascended Masters who have this big Divine Plan to make the world into a better place for humanity's benefit - if they do, they have a funny way of showing it. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? àThe impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of discussion for FFL. From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? ÃâàThe unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business. Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart chakra together on this. Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise. Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this. Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then Know. I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology. There is in fact tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field. Ask and you shall receive. All the Best, -Buck
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I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business. Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart chakra together on this. Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise. Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this. Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then Know. I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology. There is in fact tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field. Ask and you shall receive. All the Best, -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business. Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart chakra together on this. Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise. Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this. Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then Know. I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology. There is in fact tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field. Ask and you shall receive. All the Best, -Buck
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Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of discussion for FFL. From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business. Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart chakra together on this. Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise. Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this. Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then Know. I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology. There is in fact tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field. Ask and you shall receive. All the Best, -Buck
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of discussion for FFL. From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? Â The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? ÃÂ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business. Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart chakra together on this. Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise. Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this. Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then Know. I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology. There is in fact tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field. Ask and you shall receive. All the Best, -Buck
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Not according to the Yoga Vasistha and other vedic writings - Divine Mother, Divine Father and ANY AND ALL aspects of creation are expressions of the Unified Field as are any and all qualities we might emotionally ascribe to such deities, therefore my original statement stands - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about us in our lives and activities the way we like to fantasize that it does. On a completely different note, but not too dissimilar I see no evidence that there are any Ascended Masters who have this big Divine Plan to make the world into a better place for humanity's benefit - if they do, they have a funny way of showing it. From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of discussion for FFL. From: feste37 feste37@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?  The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote: The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. Nice one, Feste. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business. Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart chakra together on this. Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise. Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this. Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then Know. I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology. There is in fact tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field. Ask and you shall receive. All the Best, -Buck
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Utter nonsense not supported by the Vedas From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? Â --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business. Son, you shan't let a few details get in the way of your third eye and heart chakra together on this. Sophistry has always been a terrible thing for spiritual progress in the face of spiritual Reality otherwise. Thee should not let a few intellectual details git in the way of your own progress on this. Seek ye that kingdom, that realm of the Unified Field within and you shall then Know. I do feel a root of problem with this for so many, too many, is about poor spiritual epistemology. There is in fact tremendous grace and forgiveness in the Unified Field. Ask and you shall receive. All the Best, -Buck
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Yeah, true, the unified field goes about stuff in exactly one way, and if we decide to do things another way, we get hurt. Automatically. For example, every time I jump up, and move my body into a horizontal position, and then fall onto a hard surface, it hurts like hell. So who's fault is that? To say dismissively that the unified field doesn't give a crap about us, is only half right. When we discover what the unified field wants, simply by conforming to its demands, in subtler and subtler ways, we eventually learn that there is a method to the madness, which incorporates madness itself. It seems illogical, in opposition to all of me. And it is. The unified field definitely calls the shots, and it always wins. However, in full submission to it, is found peace, the living transcendent, ourselves. A perfect paradox, submission and freedom. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Not according to the Yoga Vasistha and other vedic writings - Divine Mother, Divine Father and ANY AND ALL aspects of creation are expressions of the Unified Field as are any and all qualities we might emotionally ascribe to such deities, therefore my original statement stands - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about us in our lives and activities the way we like to fantasize that it does. On a completely different note, but not too dissimilar I see no evidence that there are any Ascended Masters who have this big Divine Plan to make the world into a better place for humanity's benefit - if they do, they have a funny way of showing it. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?  The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of discussion for FFL. From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? àThe unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? Ãâà--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount
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What would you say the demands of the Unified Field are? From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? Yeah, true, the unified field goes about stuff in exactly one way, and if we decide to do things another way, we get hurt. Automatically. For example, every time I jump up, and move my body into a horizontal position, and then fall onto a hard surface, it hurts like hell. So who's fault is that? To say dismissively that the unified field doesn't give a crap about us, is only half right. When we discover what the unified field wants, simply by conforming to its demands, in subtler and subtler ways, we eventually learn that there is a method to the madness, which incorporates madness itself. It seems illogical, in opposition to all of me. And it is. The unified field definitely calls the shots, and it always wins. However, in full submission to it, is found peace, the living transcendent, ourselves. A perfect paradox, submission and freedom. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: Not according to the Yoga Vasistha and other vedic writings - Divine Mother, Divine Father and ANY AND ALL aspects of creation are expressions of the Unified Field as are any and all qualities we might emotionally ascribe to such deities, therefore my original statement stands - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about us in our lives and activities the way we like to fantasize that it does. On a completely different note, but not too dissimilar I see no evidence that there are any Ascended Masters who have this big Divine Plan to make the world into a better place for humanity's benefit - if they do, they have a funny way of showing it. From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?  The impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of discussion for FFL. From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?  The unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote: Yeah, true, the unified field goes about stuff in exactly one way, and if we decide to do things another way, we get hurt. Automatically. For example, every time I jump up, and move my body into a horizontal position, and then fall onto a hard surface, it hurts like hell. So who's fault is that? To say dismissively that the unified field doesn't give a crap about us, is only half right. When we discover what the unified field wants, simply by conforming to its demands, in subtler and subtler ways, we eventually learn that there is a method to the madness, which incorporates madness itself. That's what life is all about, isn't it :-) It seems illogical, in opposition to all of me. And it is. The unified field definitely calls the shots, and it always wins. However, in full submission to it, is found peace, the living transcendent, ourselves. A perfect paradox, submission and freedom. Beautiful Dr., thanks for posting this great reminder.
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For you? No clue. Once we get past the obvious, like keep breathing, it becomes different and subtler for each of us. That is why I suggested earlier that questioning authority is a good (vital?) idea. No one else can know what the unified field demands from anyone, except for themselves. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote: What would you say the demands of the Unified Field are? From: doctordumbass@... doctordumbass@... To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:20 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?  Yeah, true, the unified field goes about stuff in exactly one way, and if we decide to do things another way, we get hurt. Automatically. For example, every time I jump up, and move my body into a horizontal position, and then fall onto a hard surface, it hurts like hell. So who's fault is that? To say dismissively that the unified field doesn't give a crap about us, is only half right. When we discover what the unified field wants, simply by conforming to its demands, in subtler and subtler ways, we eventually learn that there is a method to the madness, which incorporates madness itself. It seems illogical, in opposition to all of me. And it is. The unified field definitely calls the shots, and it always wins. However, in full submission to it, is found peace, the living transcendent, ourselves. A perfect paradox, submission and freedom. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Not according to the Yoga Vasistha and other vedic writings - Divine Mother, Divine Father and ANY AND ALL aspects of creation are expressions of the Unified Field as are any and all qualities we might emotionally ascribe to such deities, therefore my original statement stands - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about us in our lives and activities the way we like to fantasize that it does. On a completely different note, but not too dissimilar I see no evidence that there are any Ascended Masters who have this big Divine Plan to make the world into a better place for humanity's benefit - if they do, they have a funny way of showing it. From: doctordumbass@ doctordumbass@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? àThe impulses and love of the Divine Mother are what flows through the nascent Unbounded. Unseen, and endlessly moving towards creation, endless birth and rebirth, from the virtually endless body of the Divine Mother. Too infinite to influence, yet personal enough to form a bond for life with. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: Oh my oh my oh my - I think the Vedic rishis would emphatically disagree with you - God comes FROM the Unbounded. - Oh what I fine topic of discussion for FFL. From: feste37 feste37@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? ÃâàThe unified field may not, Michael, but God does -- and God is in charge of the unified field. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: I've got news for you - the Unified Field doesn't give a crap about any of us or what we do - it is beyond all such considerations - ascribing emotional qualities such as grace and forgiveness is pasting our desire for such things onto the object (or in this case practice) we pin our hopes on to give us the grace and forgiveness we seek. If you don't believe me, and need Vedic confirmation, read a bit of the Yoga Vashistha to see what it says about the Unified Field giving a crap about us and what we do. From: Buck dhamiltony2k5@ To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical? ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote: Yeah, true, the unified field goes about stuff in exactly one way, and if we decide to do things another way, we get hurt. Automatically. For example, every time I jump up, and move my body into a horizontal position, and then fall onto a hard surface, it hurts like hell. So who's fault is that? To say dismissively that the unified field doesn't give a crap about us, is only half right. When we discover what the unified field wants, simply by conforming to its demands, in subtler and subtler ways, we eventually learn that there is a method to the madness, which incorporates madness itself. That's what life is all about, isn't it :-) It seems illogical, in opposition to all of me. And it is. The unified field definitely calls the shots, and it always wins. However, in full submission to it, is found peace, the living transcendent, ourselves. A perfect paradox, submission and freedom. Beautiful Dr., thanks for posting this great reminder. Thank you. Two more faves: You can argue with reality, and you'll only be wrong 100% of the time - Byron Katie, and The world is as you are, live unbounded awareness - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@... wrote: Seems to me (advaita) vedaanta could be compared to quantum mechanics whereas lesser truths like yoga, and stuff, could be compared to classical mechanics?? For over 90 percent of human beans, quantum mechanics is almost totally and absolute useless, whilst knowing the laws of classical mechanics can be very useful in everyday life?? And for kindergarten level playing with laws of nature, like Meissner effect (Yogic Flying) can be cool, but in the real school kids have to stop playing and start learning some serious stuff?? Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, card cardemaister@ wrote: Seems to me (advaita) vedaanta could be compared to quantum mechanics whereas lesser truths like yoga, and stuff, could be compared to classical mechanics?? For over 90 percent of human beans, quantum mechanics is almost totally and absolute useless, whilst knowing the laws of classical mechanics can be very useful in everyday life?? And for kindergarten level playing with laws of nature, like Meissner effect (Yogic Flying) can be cool, but in the real school kids have to stop playing and start learning some serious stuff?? Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome Yep, let's all drag a giant superconducting magnet into the dome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meissner_effect
[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum and classical?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote: Son, the Meissner Effect [ME] because of its revolutionary spiritual implications is extremely important to transformation of the human race and the whole planet. This is extremely serious stuff. People should sit up, particularly when they meditate. Everyone. Seriously. -Buck in the Dome So, Buck, can you tell me exactly how the expulsion of a magnetic field from the interior of a material that is in the process of becoming a superconductor is related to meditation? Here is some more detail to help you along: 'As a superconductor in a magnetic field is cooled to the temperature at which it abruptly loses electrical resistance, all or part of the magnetic field within the material is expelled. Relatively weak magnetic fields are entirely repulsed from the interior of all superconductors except for a surface layer about one-millionth of an inch thick. The external magnetic field may be made so strong, however, that it prevents a transition to the superconducting state, and the Meissner effect does not occur.' If one were to make some sort of spiritual analogy to this, it would seem that if one could, with a sufficient amount of surrounding pure 'evil', negate all positivity generated in the domes, if in fact, positivity is generated in the domes. If we look at the goals of the World Plan, we see that none of these goals have been achieved during the past 58 years, and so can conclude that the spiritual analogue of the Meissner effect has been effectively neutralised. 1. Develop the full potential of the individual FAILED 2. Improve governmental achievements FAILED 3. Realize the highest ideal of education FAILED 4. Eliminate the problems of crime and all behavior that brings unhappiness to the family of man FAILED 5. Maximize the intelligent use of the environment FAILED 6. Bring fulfillment to the economic aspirations of individuals and society FAILED 7. Achieve the spiritual goals of mankind in this generation FAILED A few isolated successes here and there in achieving spiritual goals does not equate with success of the ambitious plan outlined above. The spiritual successes are the outliers in this business.