[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sgrayatlarge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Nice Curtis! I need to email you and reconnect. From one unenlightened dude to another Steve That would be great Steve, you were one of the most entertaining guys at Sidhaland. Unenlightened guys get the hottest chicks and don't let anyone tell ya different! -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great youtube videos. He, he, we are all aspirants and he is the enlightened teacher. Step right up, step right up... yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when the teacher referred to you as a student... Not at all. The relationship was appropriately named. If you just read the words enlightened teacher and aspirant as words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is easier to see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I enjoy, refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of events in the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong emotion. I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. DS doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-) So not recognizing people's self proclaimed superior enlightened status is a psychological problem that I have that Dr. Phil can help me with? That is super news for me! Why is the self proclaimed status any different whether its someone calling themselves doctor because they did a thesis or med school, and graduated, or calling themselves enlightened because they did self realization school, and graduated? Either way there has been an achievement, but so what? Life is full of achievements. Why are either of them, the doc or the enlightened, or both of them, considered superior as a result? And why not just recognize them for what they have accomplished? I don't get the issue with that.:-) David: Thanks for deconstructing the notion that within teaching enlightenment there is an inherent, unspoken position of authority or superiority. That was right on! Namaste, DS Me: I'll let David explain it to you since he is obviously much more enlighteneder than you are (with the website and all). If you pay attention you may reach your next stage of enlightenmentedness through recognizing your relationship with his higher degree of enlightendenessinment. (That is unless your own psychological sunburn doesn't allow you to submit to your true relationship with him as living a state of less enlightnedernessinment than he has, you know like an MD, so what's the problem?) Meanwhile common dudes like me will just have to settle for our own level of nonenlightenmentesque lives. Or is it unenlightenmenedness? Either way you guys can work this one out amongst yourselves and I wont worry my pretty little head about such lofty matters.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
As far as dharshan goes, though, I don't count it as much. In fact, I'm suspicious of it. AT LEAST SIX THOUSAND YEARS OF VEDIC TEACHINGS WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU. DARSHAN LITERALLY MEANS COGNITION AND REFERS TO THE COMMUNICATION OF THE PARAMATMAN (SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS) OR ABSOLUTE REALITY. SOME WOULD CALL IT THE PRESENCE OF GOD. I saw some videos George DeForest linked us to from this site, of David Spero, a guru, and there was little doubt for me the guy is wired to something very powerful. just to clear up some little misinformation ... David is actually addressing comments that were made by Bronte Baxter -to- New Morning; see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149851 the youtube reference referred to is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XL3rT7pCr8 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149419 check it out, its really good!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
Great youtube videos. He, he, we are all aspirants and he is the enlightened teacher. Step right up, step right up... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as dharshan goes, though, I don't count it as much. In fact, I'm suspicious of it. AT LEAST SIX THOUSAND YEARS OF VEDIC TEACHINGS WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU. DARSHAN LITERALLY MEANS COGNITION AND REFERS TO THE COMMUNICATION OF THE PARAMATMAN (SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS) OR ABSOLUTE REALITY. SOME WOULD CALL IT THE PRESENCE OF GOD. I saw some videos George DeForest linked us to from this site, of David Spero, a guru, and there was little doubt for me the guy is wired to something very powerful. just to clear up some little misinformation ... David is actually addressing comments that were made by Bronte Baxter -to- New Morning; see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149851 the youtube reference referred to is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XL3rT7pCr8 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149419 check it out, its really good!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
My use of the term aspirant was not meant derisively or condescendingly. On the contrary, I used it as term of affection and endearment to describe those on fire to realize the Divine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great youtube videos. He, he, we are all aspirants and he is the enlightened teacher. Step right up, step right up... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest george.deforest@ wrote: As far as dharshan goes, though, I don't count it as much. In fact, I'm suspicious of it. AT LEAST SIX THOUSAND YEARS OF VEDIC TEACHINGS WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU. DARSHAN LITERALLY MEANS COGNITION AND REFERS TO THE COMMUNICATION OF THE PARAMATMAN (SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS) OR ABSOLUTE REALITY. SOME WOULD CALL IT THE PRESENCE OF GOD. I saw some videos George DeForest linked us to from this site, of David Spero, a guru, and there was little doubt for me the guy is wired to something very powerful. just to clear up some little misinformation ... David is actually addressing comments that were made by Bronte Baxter -to- New Morning; see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149851 the youtube reference referred to is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XL3rT7pCr8 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149419 check it out, its really good!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, oneradiantbeing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My use of the term aspirant was not meant derisively or condescendingly. On the contrary, I used it as term of affection and endearment to describe those on fire to realize the Divine. I'll bet the people who look to you for advice about life take it the way you mean it. Guys like me are impossible to please when it comes to implied power relationships. Since I have zero fire to realize the Divine myself, I am not in your target market anyway. Thanks for the response. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great youtube videos. He, he, we are all aspirants and he is the enlightened teacher. Step right up, step right up... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest george.deforest@ wrote: As far as dharshan goes, though, I don't count it as much. In fact, I'm suspicious of it. AT LEAST SIX THOUSAND YEARS OF VEDIC TEACHINGS WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU. DARSHAN LITERALLY MEANS COGNITION AND REFERS TO THE COMMUNICATION OF THE PARAMATMAN (SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS) OR ABSOLUTE REALITY. SOME WOULD CALL IT THE PRESENCE OF GOD. I saw some videos George DeForest linked us to from this site, of David Spero, a guru, and there was little doubt for me the guy is wired to something very powerful. just to clear up some little misinformation ... David is actually addressing comments that were made by Bronte Baxter -to- New Morning; see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149851 the youtube reference referred to is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XL3rT7pCr8 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149419 check it out, its really good!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great youtube videos. He, he, we are all aspirants and he is the enlightened teacher. Step right up, step right up... yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when the teacher referred to you as a student... If you just read the words enlightened teacher and aspirant as words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is easier to see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I enjoy, refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of events in the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong emotion. I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. DS doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
I like to think of them as metaphors, not concrete, literal terms. Peace, DS --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great youtube videos. He, he, we are all aspirants and he is the enlightened teacher. Step right up, step right up... yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when the teacher referred to you as a student... If you just read the words enlightened teacher and aspirant as words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is easier to see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I enjoy, refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of events in the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong emotion. I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. DS doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great youtube videos. He, he, we are all aspirants and he is the enlightened teacher. Step right up, step right up... yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when the teacher referred to you as a student... Not at all. The relationship was appropriately named. If you just read the words enlightened teacher and aspirant as words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is easier to see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I enjoy, refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of events in the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong emotion. I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. DS doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-) So not recognizing people's self proclaimed superior enlightened status is a psychological problem that I have that Dr. Phil can help me with? That is super news for me!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, oneradiantbeing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like to think of them as metaphors, not concrete, literal terms. Peace, DS --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great youtube videos. He, he, we are all aspirants and he is the enlightened teacher. Step right up, step right up... yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when the teacher referred to you as a student... If you just read the words enlightened teacher and aspirant as words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is easier to see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I enjoy, refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of events in the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong emotion. I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. DS doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-) Well its always a two way street, right? And if it isn't, they aren't even metaphors...:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
I am often my own worst critic, so I certainly understand where you are coming from. (-: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, oneradiantbeing oneradiantbeing@ wrote: My use of the term aspirant was not meant derisively or condescendingly. On the contrary, I used it as term of affection and endearment to describe those on fire to realize the Divine. I'll bet the people who look to you for advice about life take it the way you mean it. Guys like me are impossible to please when it comes to implied power relationships. Since I have zero fire to realize the Divine myself, I am not in your target market anyway. Thanks for the response. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great youtube videos. He, he, we are all aspirants and he is the enlightened teacher. Step right up, step right up... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest george.deforest@ wrote: As far as dharshan goes, though, I don't count it as much. In fact, I'm suspicious of it. AT LEAST SIX THOUSAND YEARS OF VEDIC TEACHINGS WOULD DISAGREE WITH YOU. DARSHAN LITERALLY MEANS COGNITION AND REFERS TO THE COMMUNICATION OF THE PARAMATMAN (SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS) OR ABSOLUTE REALITY. SOME WOULD CALL IT THE PRESENCE OF GOD. I saw some videos George DeForest linked us to from this site, of David Spero, a guru, and there was little doubt for me the guy is wired to something very powerful. just to clear up some little misinformation ... David is actually addressing comments that were made by Bronte Baxter -to- New Morning; see: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149851 the youtube reference referred to is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XL3rT7pCr8 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/149419 check it out, its really good!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great youtube videos. He, he, we are all aspirants and he is the enlightened teacher. Step right up, step right up... yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when the teacher referred to you as a student... Not at all. The relationship was appropriately named. If you just read the words enlightened teacher and aspirant as words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is easier to see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I enjoy, refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of events in the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong emotion. I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. DS doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-) So not recognizing people's self proclaimed superior enlightened status is a psychological problem that I have that Dr. Phil can help me with? That is super news for me! Why is the self proclaimed status any different whether its someone calling themselves doctor because they did a thesis or med school, and graduated, or calling themselves enlightened because they did self realization school, and graduated? Either way there has been an achievement, but so what? Life is full of achievements. Why are either of them, the doc or the enlightened, or both of them, considered superior as a result? And why not just recognize them for what they have accomplished? I don't get the issue with that.:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
Right, a two way street, and metaphor is itself a metaphorical notion - for a kind of knowing where the Knower cannot be separated from what It knows - so, ultimately, we are not in a postion to know anything with absolute certainty All activiity (and knowing) is approximation metaphor, occurs in the space of simple Being. Thanks for deconstructing the notion that within teaching enlightenment there is an inherent, unspoken position of authority or superiority. That was right on! Namaste, DS --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, oneradiantbeing oneradiantbeing@ wrote: I like to think of them as metaphors, not concrete, literal terms. Peace, DS --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great youtube videos. He, he, we are all aspirants and he is the enlightened teacher. Step right up, step right up... yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when the teacher referred to you as a student... If you just read the words enlightened teacher and aspirant as words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is easier to see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I enjoy, refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of events in the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong emotion. I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. DS doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-) Well its always a two way street, right? And if it isn't, they aren't even metaphors...:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great youtube videos. He, he, we are all aspirants and he is the enlightened teacher. Step right up, step right up... yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when the teacher referred to you as a student... Not at all. The relationship was appropriately named. If you just read the words enlightened teacher and aspirant as words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is easier to see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I enjoy, refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of events in the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong emotion. I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. DS doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-) So not recognizing people's self proclaimed superior enlightened status is a psychological problem that I have that Dr. Phil can help me with? That is super news for me! Why is the self proclaimed status any different whether its someone calling themselves doctor because they did a thesis or med school, and graduated, or calling themselves enlightened because they did self realization school, and graduated? Either way there has been an achievement, but so what? Life is full of achievements. Why are either of them, the doc or the enlightened, or both of them, considered superior as a result? And why not just recognize them for what they have accomplished? I don't get the issue with that.:-) David: Thanks for deconstructing the notion that within teaching enlightenment there is an inherent, unspoken position of authority or superiority. That was right on! Namaste, DS Me: I'll let David explain it to you since he is obviously much more enlighteneder than you are (with the website and all). If you pay attention you may reach your next stage of enlightenmentedness through recognizing your relationship with his higher degree of enlightendenessinment. (That is unless your own psychological sunburn doesn't allow you to submit to your true relationship with him as living a state of less enlightnedernessinment than he has, you know like an MD, so what's the problem?) Meanwhile common dudes like me will just have to settle for our own level of nonenlightenmentesque lives. Or is it unenlightenmenedness? Either way you guys can work this one out amongst yourselves and I wont worry my pretty little head about such lofty matters.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, oneradiantbeing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right, a two way street, and metaphor is itself a metaphorical notion - for a kind of knowing where the Knower cannot be separated from what It knows - so, ultimately, we are not in a postion to know anything with absolute certainty All activiity (and knowing) is approximation metaphor, occurs in the space of simple Being. Thanks for deconstructing the notion that within teaching enlightenment there is an inherent, unspoken position of authority or superiority. That was right on! Namaste, DS Yep, a party of one isn't a party...:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great youtube videos. He, he, we are all aspirants and he is the enlightened teacher. Step right up, step right up... yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when the teacher referred to you as a student... Not at all. The relationship was appropriately named. If you just read the words enlightened teacher and aspirant as words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is easier to see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I enjoy, refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of events in the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong emotion. I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. DS doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-) So not recognizing people's self proclaimed superior enlightened status is a psychological problem that I have that Dr. Phil can help me with? That is super news for me! Why is the self proclaimed status any different whether its someone calling themselves doctor because they did a thesis or med school, and graduated, or calling themselves enlightened because they did self realization school, and graduated? Either way there has been an achievement, but so what? Life is full of achievements. Why are either of them, the doc or the enlightened, or both of them, considered superior as a result? And why not just recognize them for what they have accomplished? I don't get the issue with that.:-) David: Thanks for deconstructing the notion that within teaching enlightenment there is an inherent, unspoken position of authority or superiority. That was right on! Namaste, DS Me: I'll let David explain it to you since he is obviously much more enlighteneder than you are (with the website and all). If you pay attention you may reach your next stage of enlightenmentedness through recognizing your relationship with his higher degree of enlightendenessinment. (That is unless your own psychological sunburn doesn't allow you to submit to your true relationship with him as living a state of less enlightnedernessinment than he has, you know like an MD, so what's the problem?) Meanwhile common dudes like me will just have to settle for our own level of nonenlightenmentesque lives. Or is it unenlightenmenedness? Either way you guys can work this one out amongst yourselves and I wont worry my pretty little head about such lofty matters. Huh? I still don't get where you are coming from. If you don't recognize enlightenment or self realization as valid states, then just say so. end of story. I am not putting you down or feeling superior to you, so who else is?:-)
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
DS I am often my own worst critic, so I certainly understand where you are coming from. (-: My use of the term aspirant was not meant derisively or condescendingly. On the contrary, I used it as term of affection and endearment to describe those on fire to realize the Divine. Curits: I'll bet the people who look to you for advice about life take it the way you mean it. Guys like me are impossible to please when it comes to implied power relationships. Since I have zero fire to realize the Divine myself, I am not in your target market anyway. Thanks for the response. Lurk: Hey, nice video on the Forgiving the Teacher Deal I thought it dealt really well with the topic du jour. lurk
[FairfieldLife] Re: Some responses to Bronte Baxter from David Spero
-Nice Curtis! I need to email you and reconnect. From one unenlightened dude to another Steve -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Great youtube videos. He, he, we are all aspirants and he is the enlightened teacher. Step right up, step right up... yeah, I'll bet it really pissed you off in grade school when the teacher referred to you as a student... Not at all. The relationship was appropriately named. If you just read the words enlightened teacher and aspirant as words with definitions, vs. loading them with baggage, it is easier to see what he is talking about. Dr. Phil, who's common sense I enjoy, refers to this loading as psychological sunburn; because of events in the past, even a mention of a word or phrase evokes strong emotion. I'm not dissing you, just noticing your reaction to those words. DS doesn't strike me as a power tripper in the least.:-) So not recognizing people's self proclaimed superior enlightened status is a psychological problem that I have that Dr. Phil can help me with? That is super news for me! Why is the self proclaimed status any different whether its someone calling themselves doctor because they did a thesis or med school, and graduated, or calling themselves enlightened because they did self realization school, and graduated? Either way there has been an achievement, but so what? Life is full of achievements. Why are either of them, the doc or the enlightened, or both of them, considered superior as a result? And why not just recognize them for what they have accomplished? I don't get the issue with that.:-) David: Thanks for deconstructing the notion that within teaching enlightenment there is an inherent, unspoken position of authority or superiority. That was right on! Namaste, DS Me: I'll let David explain it to you since he is obviously much more enlighteneder than you are (with the website and all). If you pay attention you may reach your next stage of enlightenmentedness through recognizing your relationship with his higher degree of enlightendenessinment. (That is unless your own psychological sunburn doesn't allow you to submit to your true relationship with him as living a state of less enlightnedernessinment than he has, you know like an MD, so what's the problem?) Meanwhile common dudes like me will just have to settle for our own level of nonenlightenmentesque lives. Or is it unenlightenmenedness? Either way you guys can work this one out amongst yourselves and I wont worry my pretty little head about such lofty matters.
