[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-08-01 Thread Nelson
riday, July 31, 2009 2:35 PM > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam > > > > Some of us prefer to live our own lives, > > the way we choose to live them. > > > > I wish you well with living yours the way >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-31 Thread yifuxero
uot;dhamiltony2k5" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of TurquoiseB > > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:35 PM > > To: Fa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-31 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of TurquoiseB > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:35 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-31 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TurquoiseB Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:35 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam Some of us prefer to live our own lives, the way we choose to live them. I wish

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > Like jr_esq, science and the "desire to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-31 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > Like jr_esq, science and the "desire to find out" > > > no longer drive Hagelin. He is driven by the desire

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-31 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > > > Stehphen Hawking is taking another approach to this inquiry. He favors a > > > model of the universe th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > Like jr_esq, science and the "desire to find out" > > no longer drive Hagelin. He is driven by the desire > > to "prove" that the "vedic ideas" Maharishi gave to > > him are "co

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-31 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 wrote: > > > > > (Caveat: I'm not arguing that Hagelin's ideas > > > connecting theoretical physics with TM are correct, > > > only that Barry's ideas about Hagelin are > > > INcorrect,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-31 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > Stehphen Hawking is taking another approach to this inquiry. He favors a > > model of the universe that follows all the laws of physics. But like a > > novel that begs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 wrote: > > > (Caveat: I'm not arguing that Hagelin's ideas > > connecting theoretical physics with TM are correct, > > only that Barry's ideas about Hagelin are > > INcorrect, especially his puerile analogy with Dan > > Brown.) > > All physicists

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > Stehphen Hawking is taking another approach to this inquiry. He favors a > model of the universe that follows all the laws of physics. But like a novel > that begs for more questions, he concludes that one cannot ask what happened > bef

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread guyfawkes91
> > A bit like Satyendra Nath Bose was "ripped into pieces"? :D > > > > Oddly enough, the major purpose of the Large Hadron Collider in Switzerland > is to find the Higgs boson, a particle named for SN Bose who theoretically > proposed it. > Clarification:- "Bosons" are named after Bose. The h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > To All: > > > > > > Here's an interesting proposition from John Hagelin. It appears that he > > > got

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread guyfawkes91
> (Caveat: I'm not arguing that Hagelin's ideas > connecting theoretical physics with TM are correct, > only that Barry's ideas about Hagelin are > INcorrect, especially his puerile analogy with Dan > Brown.) All physicists would agree with Barry on that point.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > To All: > > > > Here's an interesting proposition from John Hagelin. It appears that he > > got this idea from the vedic literatures. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > To All: > > > > > > Here's an interesting proposition from John Hagelin. > > > It appears that he got th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > To All: > > > > > > Here's an interesting proposition from John Hagelin. It > > > appears that he got th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 wrote: > > > > Hagelin is to science what Dan Brown is to literature. > > You rate him that highly? LOL. See my followup post. :-) In terms of success and achievement, absolutely not. In terms of "selling out" for their respective versions o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > Dan Brown takes popular legends (New Age or older), > learns just enough about them to weave them into one > of his shitty plots, and doesn't bother to learn any > more. As far as I can tell, that is what Hagelin has > done with physics.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 wrote: > > > > John Hagelin was honored with a Kilby International Award > > for his work in particle physics leading to the development > > of super-string grand unified field theories. > > > Which doesn't mean anything. He's now a salesman for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread guyfawkes91
> John Hagelin was honored with a Kilby International Award > for his work in particle physics leading to the development > of super-string grand unified field theories. > Which doesn't mean anything. He's now a salesman for an idea (the ME) which requires abandoning conservation of energy. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > FWIW, what he's saying in this clip isn't some weird > idea he dreamed up himself. The quantum foam concept > came from John Wheeler back in the 1950s... > Is this what the Nobel Physics Prize of 1957 (Lee and Yang) is all about? Seethi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread guyfawkes91
> Hagelin is to science what Dan Brown is to literature. > You rate him that highly?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread guyfawkes91
> FWIW, what he's saying in this clip isn't some weird > idea he dreamed up himself. The quantum foam concept > came from John Wheeler back in the 1950s. The notion > that the bubbles give birth to universes was proposed > by physicist Andrei Linde in the 1990s. It's one of > several competing app

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > On Jul 30, 2009, at 11:08 AM, WillyTex wrote: > > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > Hagelin is to science what Dan Brown is to literature. > > > > John Hagelin was honored with a Kilby International Award > > for his work in particle physics le

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread Vaj
On Jul 30, 2009, at 11:08 AM, WillyTex wrote: TurquoiseB wrote: > Hagelin is to science what Dan Brown is to literature. > Yeah, Hagelin can't hold a candle to Fred Lenz! At age 48, Lenz took an overdose of Valium and jumped into a lake. His body was found two days later with a dog collar arou

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread WillyTex
TurquoiseB wrote: > Hagelin is to science what Dan Brown is to literature. > Yeah, Hagelin can't hold a candle to Fred Lenz! At age 48, Lenz took an overdose of Valium and jumped into a lake. His body was found two days later with a dog collar around his neck. John Hagelin was honored with a Ki

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > To All: > > > > Here's an interesting proposition from John Hagelin. It appears that he > > got this idea from the vedic literatures. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > To All: > > > > Here's an interesting proposition from John Hagelin. > > It appears that he got this idea from the vedic literatures. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > To All: > > > > Here's an interesting proposition from John Hagelin. It > > appears that he got this idea from the vedic literatures. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread guyfawkes91
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > To All: > > Here's an interesting proposition from John Hagelin. It appears that he got > this idea from the vedic literatures. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84_kXpsDJEk > John's problem is that he never strays outside his comfort zo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > To All: > > Here's an interesting proposition from John Hagelin. It appears that he got > this idea from the vedic literatures. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84_kXpsDJEk > Cool. It's the bubble diagram revisited. John goes back to b

[FairfieldLife] Re: Space/Time Foam

2009-07-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > To All: > > Here's an interesting proposition from John Hagelin. > It appears that he got this idea from the vedic literatures. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84_kXpsDJEk John Hagelin -- the