Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-20 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bingo! You hit the nail on the head ! He's thinking ,short term, of his image 
and campaign promises, not the good of the country or world. He's shirking his 
responsibilty and his place in history is going to take a hard hit. The longer 
a cancer grows and spreads, the harder it is to get rid of and at greater cost. 
The *cancer* was in serious remition, however, he elected to stop treatment and 
it's back  worse than ever. I know, I know, it's Bush's fault for invading 
Iraq in the first place, right? Ask yourself, what would Saddam being doing  
right now, with his mortal enemy, Iran, building a nuke right next door. An 
Islamic nuclear weapons race is the last think the world needs. I'm just 
sayin'. 


On Friday, September 19, 2014 9:10 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
  


  
Mike,

It appears that Obama wants the other Arab nations in the Middle East to put 
their troops in Iraq to defeat ISIS.  This strategy may not world since these 
nations don't want to spend their own money and their troops for a campaign  
that might last for years.

IMO,  Obama is just waiting it out until a new president in the US is elected 
to take over this problem.  But in the meantime, he will not send any American 
troops back in that troubled land.

  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-20 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
True, but a lot of the flag waving by those at the top, in favor of *the 
definitive war* often deteriorates into a grab for resources, and another 
chance for weapons testing, and an inflaming of a conflict. If any politician 
meant to solve the problem, they would. I sort of like the hands-off, but 
airstrikes if necessary, approach. It appears to have caused a shift in at 
least the public face of ISIS, now letting hostages go, vs. continuing with 
horrors. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 Bingo! You hit the nail on the head ! He's thinking ,short term, of his image 
and campaign promises, not the good of the country or world. He's shirking his 
responsibilty and his place in history is going to take a hard hit. The longer 
a cancer grows and spreads, the harder it is to get rid of and at greater cost. 
The *cancer* was in serious remition, however, he elected to stop treatment and 
it's back  worse than ever. I know, I know, it's Bush's fault for invading 
Iraq in the first place, right? Ask yourself, what would Saddam being doing  
right now, with his mortal enemy, Iran, building a nuke right next door. An 
Islamic nuclear weapons race is the last think the world needs. I'm just sayin'.
 


 On Friday, September 19, 2014 9:10 PM, jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 

   Mike,
 

 It appears that Obama wants the other Arab nations in the Middle East to put 
their troops in Iraq to defeat ISIS.  This strategy may not world since these 
nations don't want to spend their own money and their troops for a campaign  
that might last for years.
 

 IMO,  Obama is just waiting it out until a new president in the US is elected 
to take over this problem.  But in the meantime, he will not send any American 
troops back in that troubled land.
 

 


 


 












[FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-19 Thread pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]


[FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-19 Thread pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :

 H, I may have been mistaken.about who said what.not about who 
would do what.  You've expressed so many war mongering concepts, I'm willing to 
forgive myself for the --- considering who I think you are in real life -- 
sleight.  I officially retract my statement that Richard Williams posted that 
he'd nuke anyone.

The plan that I was in favor of is President Obama's plan - that's the point.

To send in drones to destroy ISIS by hitting the infrastructure - bombing the 
the oil processing and delivery systems to cut off the cash flow; bombing any 
wheeled vehicle seen on the road in the ISIS controlled areas carrying armed 
insurgents in jeeps, Land Cruisers or Toyotas with mounted weapons. 

This will be done without any U.S. troops on the ground. The drones operate 
remotely from the U.S. We will make a data base of every vehicle in the area 
and see the gold in the teeth of the leaders - they will have no place to run 
and hide out in the desert. 

It was a very dumb thing for them to do - to commit these atrocities and think 
they could get away with it. 

According to the U.S. Vice President, 'WE WILL CHASE THESE GUYS TO THE GATES OF 
HELL1!




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-19 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I'm not exactly sure who's saying *what* around here either. However, I don't 
expect anything significant to happen with ISIS until we have a president that 
will listen to his military scientists, his top generals.As long as we have a 
*community organizer* ignoring the best advice of military scientist and 
advising them what they can do, based on his political agenda, the generals 
will have their hands tied and will, most likely, have limited success at best, 
dragging this conflict out for an indefinite length of time and at *who knows 
what cost*. Nobody wants to end up at the gates of hell. Just send them (ISIS) 
there. BTW only an idiot telegraphs to his enemies what he will and will not 
do, unless he's a liar. Then nothing he says can be believed. 


On Friday, September 19, 2014 10:58 AM, pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
  


  




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote :


H, I may have been mistaken.about who said what.not about who would 
do what.  You've expressed so many war mongering concepts, I'm willing to 
forgive myself for the --- considering who I think you are in real life -- 
sleight.  I officially retract my statement that Richard Williams posted that 
he'd nuke anyone.

The plan that I was in favor of is President Obama's plan - that's the point.

To send in drones to destroy ISIS by hitting the infrastructure - bombing the 
the oil processing and delivery systems to cut off the cash flow; bombing any 
wheeled vehicle seen on the road in the ISIS controlled areas carrying armed 
insurgents in jeeps, Land Cruisers or Toyotas with mounted weapons. 

This will be done without any U.S. troops on the ground. The drones operate 
remotely from the U.S. We will make a data base of every vehicle in the area 
and see the gold in the teeth of the leaders - they will have no place to run 
and hide out in the desert. 

It was a very dumb thing for them to do - to commit these atrocities and think 
they could get away with it. 

According to the U.S. Vice President, 'WE WILL CHASE THESE GUYS TO THE GATES OF 
HELL1!
  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-19 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Mike, 

 It appears that Obama wants the other Arab nations in the Middle East to put 
their troops in Iraq to defeat ISIS.  This strategy may not world since these 
nations don't want to spend their own money and their troops for a campaign  
that might last for years.
 

 IMO,  Obama is just waiting it out until a new president in the US is elected 
to take over this problem.  But in the meantime, he will not send any American 
troops back in that troubled land.
 

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-17 Thread Duveyoung
H, I may have been mistaken.about who said what.not about who would 
do what.  You've expressed so many war mongering concepts, I'm willing to 
forgive myself for the --- considering who I think you are in real life -- 
sleight.  I officially retract my statement that Richard Williams posted that 
he'd nuke anyone.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-14 Thread pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Emptybill, 

 That scenario you're imagining is a bit extreme.  The jihadists' agenda in 
Syria is very much in flux.  They could change at any moment.  It is very 
likely that ISIS will disappear and simply blend in with the rest of the so 
called friendly rebels.
 

 In that case, they would be unified in fighting the Assad government.  And 
they could possibly win, especially if the US supplied the weapons that are 
intended to defeat ISIS.
 

 IMO, the existence of ISIS is now severely threatened since all of the Arab 
nations and the rest of the world are heavily against it.  It would be best for 
them to conveniently disappear and fight another day after Assad is toppled.
 

 If not, Obama will hunt its leaders with drones and special forces commandos 
similar to what he did with Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

The situation is complicated. Apparently there is not a single country on the 
planet willing to send in military boots on the ground to fight ISIS in Iraq, 
except the Kurds. What we need to remember is that we are dealing with Islamic 
fundamentalists of one strip or another - all one family, according to Sam 
Harris. 

There will probably NOT be any military action taken by NATO or anyone else 
against the ISIS, even after the ISIS strikes their own country. We are 
familiar with this based on previous engagements where the U.S. pays in money, 
blood, sweat and tears for almost the entire defense budget of Europe and the 
Far East.

There may come a time, and probably sooner than later, when the U.S. will not 
be willing to fight everyone's battle for them anymore.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote :

 This pact complicates the scenario in fighting ISIS. Its probably not a good 
idea to arm the so-called friendly rebels at this time.

Doesn't matter. 

Islamic State will attempt to convene an Islamic Caliphate to establish 
regional lordship over Muslim countries. They will then come back home to 
further educate us into real Islam - like they are doing now - by following 
their genocidal prophet.  

American Muslim jihadi-s are going through Turkey to get through to the 
Syria/Iraq border. That means no passport stamps are necessary, so they just 
appear to us as East-European travelers. 

Wait until the jihadi shooters unload their hollow-points into the crowds at a 
football game, music concert or else go blow-up a big metro hotel. Mothers 
Against Murdering Muslims will demand a police state and people will happy to 
comply - just to feel safer. 

 We will be one step closer to The Other Final Solution - Nuking Mecca.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-14 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]


[FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-14 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richard, 

 Whether you like it or not, the US is at war with another group.  ISIS must be 
taken out of Iraq first before any of the other parts in the plan can be 
implemented.
 

 For the time being, the Assad government should be a US friend while ISIS is 
still alive and well in Iraq and Syria.  Once ISIS is eliminated, the 
relationship would dramatically change.
 

 But, at the same time, Obama has the option to take out the ISIS leaders in 
Syria if the opportunity presents itself.  One big bomb could wipe out their 
leaders if they are housed in one building.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Emptybill, 

 That scenario you're imagining is a bit extreme.  The jihadists' agenda in 
Syria is very much in flux.  They could change at any moment.  It is very 
likely that ISIS will disappear and simply blend in with the rest of the so 
called friendly rebels.
 

 In that case, they would be unified in fighting the Assad government.  And 
they could possibly win, especially if the US supplied the weapons that are 
intended to defeat ISIS.
 

 IMO, the existence of ISIS is now severely threatened since all of the Arab 
nations and the rest of the world are heavily against it.  It would be best for 
them to conveniently disappear and fight another day after Assad is toppled.
 

 If not, Obama will hunt its leaders with drones and special forces commandos 
similar to what he did with Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

The situation is complicated. Apparently there is not a single country on the 
planet willing to send in military boots on the ground to fight ISIS in Iraq, 
except the Kurds. What we need to remember is that we are dealing with Islamic 
fundamentalists of one strip or another - all one family, according to Sam 
Harris. 

There will probably NOT be any military action taken by NATO or anyone else 
against the ISIS, even after the ISIS strikes their own country. We are 
familiar with this based on previous engagements where the U.S. pays in money, 
blood, sweat and tears for almost the entire defense budget of Europe and the 
Far East.

There may come a time, and probably sooner than later, when the U.S. will not 
be willing to fight everyone's battle for them anymore.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote :

 This pact complicates the scenario in fighting ISIS. Its probably not a good 
idea to arm the so-called friendly rebels at this time.

Doesn't matter. 

Islamic State will attempt to convene an Islamic Caliphate to establish 
regional lordship over Muslim countries. They will then come back home to 
further educate us into real Islam - like they are doing now - by following 
their genocidal prophet.  

American Muslim jihadi-s are going through Turkey to get through to the 
Syria/Iraq border. That means no passport stamps are necessary, so they just 
appear to us as East-European travelers. 

Wait until the jihadi shooters unload their hollow-points into the crowds at a 
football game, music concert or else go blow-up a big metro hotel. Mothers 
Against Murdering Muslims will demand a police state and people will happy to 
comply - just to feel safer. 

 We will be one step closer to The Other Final Solution - Nuking Mecca.









Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-14 Thread Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
In the desert there's no place to run and no place to hide. U.S. firepower
will pick off every jeep, fore-runner and Toyota on the road between Mosul
and Damascus. All the ISIS oil terminals will be destroyed - there will no
fuel, no food, nothing will get in or out.

The ISIS-controlled area will be marked off for destruction.

In a few years a wall will be built around the entire Middle East - it will
all be a future Gaza Strip - cut off from the rest of the world - no
flights in and no flights out - except for drones in the sky.The terrorists
are doomed if Hillary is the next U.S.President. I predict.

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 5:16 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:



 Richard,

 Whether you like it or not, the US is at war with another group.  ISIS
 must be taken out of Iraq first before any of the other parts in the plan
 can be implemented.

 For the time being, the Assad government should be a US friend while ISIS
 is still alive and well in Iraq and Syria.  Once ISIS is eliminated, the
 relationship would dramatically change.

 But, at the same time, Obama has the option to take out the ISIS leaders
 in Syria if the opportunity presents itself.  One big bomb could wipe out
 their leaders if they are housed in one building.


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Emptybill,

 That scenario you're imagining is a bit extreme.  The jihadists' agenda in
 Syria is very much in flux.  They could change at any moment.  It is very
 likely that ISIS will disappear and simply blend in with the rest of the so
 called friendly rebels.

 In that case, they would be unified in fighting the Assad government.  And
 they could possibly win, especially if the US supplied the weapons that are
 intended to defeat ISIS.

 IMO, the existence of ISIS is now severely threatened since all of the
 Arab nations and the rest of the world are heavily against it.  It would be
 best for them to conveniently disappear and fight another day after Assad
 is toppled.

 If not, Obama will hunt its leaders with drones and special forces
 commandos similar to what he did with Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

 The situation is complicated. Apparently there is not a single country on
 the planet willing to send in military boots on the ground to fight ISIS
 in Iraq, except the Kurds. What we need to remember is that we are dealing
 with Islamic fundamentalists of one strip or another - all one family,
 according to Sam Harris.

 There will probably NOT be any military action taken by NATO or anyone
 else against the ISIS, even after the ISIS strikes their own country. We
 are familiar with this based on previous engagements where the U.S. pays in
 money, blood, sweat and tears for almost the entire defense budget of
 Europe and the Far East.

 There may come a time, and probably sooner than later, when the U.S. will
 not be willing to fight everyone's battle for them anymore.


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote :

 This pact complicates the scenario in fighting ISIS. Its probably not a
 good idea to arm the so-called friendly rebels at this time.

 Doesn't matter.

 Islamic State will attempt to convene an Islamic Caliphate to establish
 regional lordship over Muslim countries. They will then come back home to
 further educate us into real Islam - like they are doing now - by
 following their genocidal prophet.

 American Muslim jihadi-s are going through Turkey to get through to the
 Syria/Iraq border. That means no passport stamps are necessary, so they
 just appear to us as East-European travelers.

 Wait until the jihadi shooters unload their hollow-points into the crowds
 at a football game, music concert or else go blow-up a big metro hotel. 
 Mothers
 Against Murdering Muslims will demand a police state and people will
 happy to comply - just to feel safer.

  We will be one step closer to The Other Final Solution - Nuking Mecca.

  



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-14 Thread Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Under those circumstances, I'd' bet anyone subjected by ISIS is doomed as well. 
Drones aren't going to know the difference between a wedding party and a care 
load of terrorists. 


On Sunday, September 14, 2014 6:54 PM, Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com 
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
  


  
In the desert there's no place to run and no place to hide. U.S. firepower will 
pick off every jeep, fore-runner and Toyota on the road between Mosul and 
Damascus. All the ISIS oil terminals will be destroyed - there will no fuel, no 
food, nothing will get in or out. 

The ISIS-controlled area will be marked off for destruction.

In a few years a wall will be built around the entire Middle East - it will all 
be a future Gaza Strip - cut off from the rest of the world - no flights in and 
no flights out - except for drones in the sky.The terrorists are doomed if 
Hillary is the next U.S.President. I predict.


On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 5:16 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 
  
Richard,


Whether you like it or not, the US is at war with another group.  ISIS must be 
taken out of Iraq first before any of the other parts in the plan can be 
implemented.


For the time being, the Assad government should be a US friend while ISIS is 
still alive and well in Iraq and Syria.  Once ISIS is eliminated, the 
relationship would dramatically change.


But, at the same time, Obama has the option to take out the ISIS leaders in 
Syria if the opportunity presents itself.  One big bomb could wipe out their 
leaders if they are housed in one building.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :




---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :


Emptybill,


That scenario you're imagining is a bit extreme.  The jihadists' agenda in 
Syria is very much in flux.  They could change at any moment.  It is very 
likely that ISIS will disappear and simply blend in with the rest of the so 
called friendly rebels.


In that case, they would be unified in fighting the Assad government.  And 
they could possibly win, especially if the US supplied the weapons that are 
intended to defeat ISIS.


IMO, the existence of ISIS is now severely threatened since all of the Arab 
nations and the rest of the world are heavily against it.  It would be best 
for them to conveniently disappear and fight another day after Assad is 
toppled.


If not, Obama will hunt its leaders with drones and special forces commandos 
similar to what he did with Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

The situation is complicated. Apparently there is not a single country on the 
planet willing to send in military boots on the ground to fight ISIS in Iraq, 
except the Kurds. What we need to remember is that we are dealing with Islamic 
fundamentalists of one strip or another - all one family, according to Sam 
Harris. 

There will probably NOT be any military action taken by NATO or anyone else 
against the ISIS, even after the ISIS strikes their own country. We are 
familiar with this based on previous engagements where the U.S. pays in money, 
blood, sweat and tears for almost the entire defense budget of Europe and the 
Far East.

There may come a time, and probably sooner than later, when the U.S. will not 
be willing to fight everyone's battle for them anymore.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote :


This pact complicates the
scenario in fighting ISIS. Its probably not a good idea to arm the
so-called friendly rebels at this time.

Doesn't matter. 

Islamic State will attempt to convene an Islamic Caliphate to establish 
regional lordship over Muslim countries. They will then come back home to 
further educate us into real Islam - like they are doing now - by following 
their genocidal prophet.  

American Muslim jihadi-s are going through Turkey to get through to the 
Syria/Iraq border. That means no passport stamps are necessary, so they just 
appear to us as East-European travelers. 

Wait until the jihadi shooters unload their hollow-points into the crowds at a 
football game, music concert or else go blow-up a big metro hotel. Mothers 
Against Murdering Muslimswill demand a police state and people will happy to 
comply - just to feel safer. 

 We will be one step closer to The Other FinalSolution - Nuking Mecca.
  
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-14 Thread Richard Williams pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:



 Under those circumstances, I'd' bet anyone subjected by ISIS is doomed as
 well. Drones aren't going to know the difference between a wedding party
 and a care load of terrorists.


As it stands now, everyone in ISIS controlled Iraq and Syria is doomed.
There will be no winners.




   On Sunday, September 14, 2014 6:54 PM, Richard Williams
 pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 wrote:



  In the desert there's no place to run and no place to hide. U.S.
 firepower will pick off every jeep, fore-runner and Toyota on the road
 between Mosul and Damascus. All the ISIS oil terminals will be destroyed -
 there will no fuel, no food, nothing will get in or out.

 The ISIS-controlled area will be marked off for destruction.

 In a few years a wall will be built around the entire Middle East - it
 will all be a future Gaza Strip - cut off from the rest of the world - no
 flights in and no flights out - except for drones in the sky.The terrorists
 are doomed if Hillary is the next U.S.President. I predict.

 On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 5:16 PM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:


  Richard,

 Whether you like it or not, the US is at war with another group.  ISIS
 must be taken out of Iraq first before any of the other parts in the plan
 can be implemented.

 For the time being, the Assad government should be a US friend while ISIS
 is still alive and well in Iraq and Syria.  Once ISIS is eliminated, the
 relationship would dramatically change.

 But, at the same time, Obama has the option to take out the ISIS leaders
 in Syria if the opportunity presents itself.  One big bomb could wipe out
 their leaders if they are housed in one building.


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote :


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jr_esq@... wrote :

 Emptybill,

 That scenario you're imagining is a bit extreme.  The jihadists' agenda
 in Syria is very much in flux.  They could change at any moment.  It is
 very likely that ISIS will disappear and simply blend in with the rest of
 the so called friendly rebels.

 In that case, they would be unified in fighting the Assad government.  And
 they could possibly win, especially if the US supplied the weapons that are
 intended to defeat ISIS.

 IMO, the existence of ISIS is now severely threatened since all of the
 Arab nations and the rest of the world are heavily against it.  It would be
 best for them to conveniently disappear and fight another day after Assad
 is toppled.

 If not, Obama will hunt its leaders with drones and special forces
 commandos similar to what he did with Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

 The situation is complicated. Apparently there is not a single country on
 the planet willing to send in military boots on the ground to fight ISIS
 in Iraq, except the Kurds. What we need to remember is that we are dealing
 with Islamic fundamentalists of one strip or another - all one family,
 according to Sam Harris.

 There will probably NOT be any military action taken by NATO or anyone
 else against the ISIS, even after the ISIS strikes their own country. We
 are familiar with this based on previous engagements where the U.S. pays in
 money, blood, sweat and tears for almost the entire defense budget of
 Europe and the Far East.

 There may come a time, and probably sooner than later, when the U.S. will
 not be willing to fight everyone's battle for them anymore.


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote :

 This pact complicates the scenario in fighting ISIS. Its probably not a
 good idea to arm the so-called friendly rebels at this time.

 Doesn't matter.

 Islamic State will attempt to convene an Islamic Caliphate to establish
 regional lordship over Muslim countries. They will then come back home to
 further educate us into real Islam - like they are doing now - by
 following their genocidal prophet.

 American Muslim jihadi-s are going through Turkey to get through to the
 Syria/Iraq border. That means no passport stamps are necessary, so they
 just appear to us as East-European travelers.

 Wait until the jihadi shooters unload their hollow-points into the crowds
 at a football game, music concert or else go blow-up a big metro hotel. 
 Mothers
 Against Murdering Muslims will demand a police state and people will
 happy to comply - just to feel safer.

  We will be one step closer to The Other Final Solution - Nuking Mecca.








Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-14 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The soldiers that are flying the drones can see fairly well through the cameras 
from as far as 5 to 6 miles away.  They can pick out enemy combatants.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mdixon.6569@... wrote :

 Under those circumstances, I'd' bet anyone subjected by ISIS is doomed as 
well. Drones aren't going to know the difference between a wedding party and a 
care load of terrorists.
 


 On Sunday, September 14, 2014 6:54 PM, Richard Williams punditster@... 
[FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 

   In the desert there's no place to run and no place to hide. U.S. firepower 
will pick off every jeep, fore-runner and Toyota on the road between Mosul and 
Damascus. All the ISIS oil terminals will be destroyed - there will no fuel, no 
food, nothing will get in or out.  

 The ISIS-controlled area will be marked off for destruction. 

 In a few years a wall will be built around the entire Middle East - it will 
all be a future Gaza Strip - cut off from the rest of the world - no flights in 
and no flights out - except for drones in the sky.The terrorists are doomed if 
Hillary is the next U.S.President. I predict.


 
 On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 5:16 PM, jr_esq@... mailto:jr_esq@... [FairfieldLife] 
FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:
   Richard,
 

 Whether you like it or not, the US is at war with another group.  ISIS must be 
taken out of Iraq first before any of the other parts in the plan can be 
implemented.
 

 For the time being, the Assad government should be a US friend while ISIS is 
still alive and well in Iraq and Syria.  Once ISIS is eliminated, the 
relationship would dramatically change.
 

 But, at the same time, Obama has the option to take out the ISIS leaders in 
Syria if the opportunity presents itself.  One big bomb could wipe out their 
leaders if they are housed in one building.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
punditster@... wrote :

 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
jr_esq@... wrote :

 Emptybill, 

 That scenario you're imagining is a bit extreme.  The jihadists' agenda in 
Syria is very much in flux.  They could change at any moment.  It is very 
likely that ISIS will disappear and simply blend in with the rest of the so 
called friendly rebels.
 

 In that case, they would be unified in fighting the Assad government.  And 
they could possibly win, especially if the US supplied the weapons that are 
intended to defeat ISIS.
 

 IMO, the existence of ISIS is now severely threatened since all of the Arab 
nations and the rest of the world are heavily against it.  It would be best for 
them to conveniently disappear and fight another day after Assad is toppled.
 

 If not, Obama will hunt its leaders with drones and special forces commandos 
similar to what he did with Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.

The situation is complicated. Apparently there is not a single country on the 
planet willing to send in military boots on the ground to fight ISIS in Iraq, 
except the Kurds. What we need to remember is that we are dealing with Islamic 
fundamentalists of one strip or another - all one family, according to Sam 
Harris. 

There will probably NOT be any military action taken by NATO or anyone else 
against the ISIS, even after the ISIS strikes their own country. We are 
familiar with this based on previous engagements where the U.S. pays in money, 
blood, sweat and tears for almost the entire defense budget of Europe and the 
Far East.

There may come a time, and probably sooner than later, when the U.S. will not 
be willing to fight everyone's battle for them anymore.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
emptybill@... wrote :

 This pact complicates the scenario in fighting ISIS. Its probably not a good 
idea to arm the so-called friendly rebels at this time.

Doesn't matter. 

Islamic State will attempt to convene an Islamic Caliphate to establish 
regional lordship over Muslim countries. They will then come back home to 
further educate us into real Islam - like they are doing now - by following 
their genocidal prophet.  

American Muslim jihadi-s are going through Turkey to get through to the 
Syria/Iraq border. That means no passport stamps are necessary, so they just 
appear to us as East-European travelers. 

Wait until the jihadi shooters unload their hollow-points into the crowds at a 
football game, music concert or else go blow-up a big metro hotel. Mothers 
Against Murdering Muslims will demand a police state and people will happy to 
comply - just to feel safer. 

 We will be one step closer to The Other Final Solution - Nuking Mecca.








 








 


 














Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-14 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Actually it would be easier for the Iraqi forces to retake the towns that the 
ISIS militants have occupied after the US bombs the ISIS equipment, weapons and 
stronghold. 

 However, it's another scenario in Syria itself.  At this time, I would assume 
Assad's forces are more likely to finish the job after the US bombs the ISIS 
stronghold, equipment and weapons.  If they don't, the so-called friendly 
militants would take control and Assad's power will more likely be degraded.


[FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-13 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
This pact complicates the scenario in fighting ISIS. Its probably not a good 
idea to arm the so-called friendly rebels at this time.

Doesn't matter. 

Islamic State will attempt to convene an Islamic Caliphate to establish 
regional lordship over Muslim countries. They will then come back home to 
further educate us into real Islam - like they are doing now - by following 
their genocidal prophet.  

American Muslim jihadi-s are going through Turkey to get through to the 
Syria/Iraq border. That means no passport stamps are necessary, so they just 
appear to us as East-European travelers. 

Wait until the jihadi shooters unload their hollow-points into the crowds at a 
football game, music concert or else go blow-up a big metro hotel. Mothers 
Against Murdering Muslims will demand a police state and people will happy to 
comply - just to feel safer. 

 We will be one step closer to The Other Final Solution - Nuking Mecca.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Syrian Rebels, IS in a Pact

2014-09-13 Thread jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Emptybill, 

 That scenario you're imagining is a bit extreme.  The jihadists' agenda in 
Syria is very much in flux.  They could change at any moment.  It is very 
likely that ISIS will disappear and simply blend in with the rest of the so 
called friendly rebels.
 

 In that case, they would be unified in fighting the Assad government.  And 
they could possibly win, especially if the US supplied the weapons that are 
intended to defeat ISIS.
 

 IMO, the existence of ISIS is now severely threatened since all of the Arab 
nations and the rest of the world are heavily against it.  It would be best for 
them to conveniently disappear and fight another day after Assad is toppled.
 

 If not, Obama will hunt its leaders with drones and special forces commandos 
similar to what he did with Osama bin Laden in Pakistan.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill@... wrote :

 This pact complicates the scenario in fighting ISIS. Its probably not a good 
idea to arm the so-called friendly rebels at this time.

Doesn't matter. 

Islamic State will attempt to convene an Islamic Caliphate to establish 
regional lordship over Muslim countries. They will then come back home to 
further educate us into real Islam - like they are doing now - by following 
their genocidal prophet.  

American Muslim jihadi-s are going through Turkey to get through to the 
Syria/Iraq border. That means no passport stamps are necessary, so they just 
appear to us as East-European travelers. 

Wait until the jihadi shooters unload their hollow-points into the crowds at a 
football game, music concert or else go blow-up a big metro hotel. Mothers 
Against Murdering Muslims will demand a police state and people will happy to 
comply - just to feel safer. 

 We will be one step closer to The Other Final Solution - Nuking Mecca.