[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: Kapor cofounded Lotus Development Corporation with Jonathan Sachs. http://www.dssresources.com/history/sshistory.html Disgrunted 'ru though he was, do you think Mitch Kapor came up with Lotus as a name for his company as a result of his exposure to Indian culture via TM? I would guess that. But then from what I observed, Mitch had a kind of wicked witty sense of humor. His using the Lotus name might have been meant as something ironic -- but still something that might appeal to consumers. In France the name of the leading brand of toilet tissue is Lotus. They must have been influenced by Indian culture as well...possibly by going to India and finding no toilet tissue available. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Fylstra, the founder of Personal Software/VisiCorp was also a TM meditator and was married to a governor. He had a few Cambridge Center sidhis working for him back in 1978. I was one of them. http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,116166,pg,3,00.asp Did Dan Bricklin do any meditation? Tell us some good early insider VisiCalc stories. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] There is a lesson to be learned in this comparison, IMO, but it *wasn't* learned, and now it's too late. In the modern world of meditation and self discovery, the TMO is as irrelevant as VisiCorp is to the modern software industry. Who can say? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. A company called VisiCorp invented the spreadsheet and marketed it. Their product -- VisiCalc -- basically created the entire PC revolution; people used to walk into the early computer stores saying, I want a VisiCalc. The clerks would say, No, what you want is a computer, on which you can run VisiCalc. And the customer would say, Whatever. Just sell me a VisiCalc. They had the market pretty much cornered, just like the TMO did with meditation in the early days. For a while there, back in the late 60's and most of the 70s, if you thought meditation, you thought Transcendental Meditation. TM had become the VisiCalc of meditation. And then, on the VisiCorp side, the founders of the company got greedy and complacent and lost touch with their customer base. They doubled and tripled the price of their product without adding any new features, and reduced the quality of their after-sale customer service. Along came Lotus, and within a year or two VisiCorp was bankrupt, no longer even a player in the market. (As an aside, since I was there for this particular debacle, when VisiCorp went belly up, Ashton-Tate did the stupidest thing ever done in the history of business and hired VisiCorp's whole upper management team to replace president George Tate, who had thoughtlessly died on them. Within a year and a half, the geniuses who had driven VisiCorp into bankruptcy had driven Ashton-Tate into bankruptcy, too.) (As another aside, after Lotus -- started by a TMer -- stole the entire spreadsheet market away from VisiCorp, *it* got lazy and complacent and out of touch with its customer base and lost the entire market to Microsoft and Excel, as well.) Yes, an excellent comparison. But you forgot to mention OpenOffice and their spreadsheet; fewer features but all that one needs is there for $0.00. Your metaphor breaks down in one respect. TM is a very much better product than others available if obtained with the checking support which originally came as standard (and now may not do so). Many of TM's competitors are simply crap. Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: A company called VisiCorp invented the spreadsheet and marketed it. Their product -- VisiCalc -- basically created the entire PC revolution; people used to walk into the early computer stores saying, I want a VisiCalc. The clerks would say, No, what you want is a computer, on which you can run VisiCalc. And the customer would say, Whatever. Just sell me a VisiCalc. Visicalc, as the killer app, made Apple -- the (IBM) PC was yet to come. (As another aside, after Lotus -- started by a TMer -- a quite disgruntled and non-practicing TMer by that time -- having left his 6-month course in the middle of the night tired with this bs -- paraphrasing. stole the entire spreadsheet market away from VisiCorp, But also designed 123 for the NEW IBM PC. And it became the killer app for the PC, Lotus made the PC (to a degree) the way Visicalc had made Apple. Right time, right place. However, I agree with your examples as a broad analogy. But other factors were also in play. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: A company called VisiCorp invented the spreadsheet and marketed it. Their product -- VisiCalc -- basically created the entire PC revolution; people used to walk into the early computer stores saying, I want a VisiCalc. The clerks would say, No, what you want is a computer, on which you can run VisiCalc. And the customer would say, Whatever. Just sell me a VisiCalc. Visicalc, as the killer app, made Apple -- the (IBM) PC was yet to come. And when it did, VisiCalc was one of the first applications available for it. Dan Bricklin had VisiCalc ported to the Intel chip before the PC was even released. (As another aside, after Lotus -- started by a TMer -- a quite disgruntled and non-practicing TMer by that time -- having left his 6-month course in the middle of the night tired with this bs -- paraphrasing. I should have said, ...started by a *smart* TMer... :-) stole the entire spreadsheet market away from VisiCorp, But also designed 123 for the NEW IBM PC. And it became the killer app for the PC, Lotus made the PC (to a degree) the way Visicalc had made Apple. Right time, right place. But wrong facts, AFAIK. :-) VisiCalc had been available for IBM PCs since 1981. Lotus wasn't really widely available until 1983. But it was better, and won. However, I agree with your examples as a broad analogy. But other factors were also in play. Like the fact that Mitch Kapor actually tried to *sell* his first versions of Lotus to VisiCorp and they turned him down. Within a few years, he owned all the VisiCorp intellectual property. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: A company called VisiCorp invented the spreadsheet and marketed it. Their product -- VisiCalc -- basically created the entire PC revolution; people used to walk into the early computer stores saying, I want a VisiCalc. The clerks would say, No, what you want is a computer, on which you can run VisiCalc. And the customer would say, Whatever. Just sell me a VisiCalc. Visicalc, as the killer app, made Apple -- the (IBM) PC was yet to come. And when it did, VisiCalc was one of the first applications available for it. Dan Bricklin had VisiCalc ported to the Intel chip before the PC was even released. (As another aside, after Lotus -- started by a TMer -- a quite disgruntled and non-practicing TMer by that time -- having left his 6-month course in the middle of the night tired with this bs -- paraphrasing. I should have said, ...started by a *smart* TMer... :-) stole the entire spreadsheet market away from VisiCorp, But also designed 123 for the NEW IBM PC. And it became the killer app for the PC, Lotus made the PC (to a degree) the way Visicalc had made Apple. Right time, right place. But wrong facts, AFAIK. :-) VisiCalc had been available for IBM PCs since 1981. That could be. But I remember 123 as being THE ss app for PCs. Maybe visicacl was ported as 8-bit and 123 was 16-bit? Or something that made 123 JUST PLAIN better for the PC. Lotus wasn't really widely available until 1983. But it was better, and won. However, I agree with your examples as a broad analogy. But other factors were also in play. Like the fact that Mitch Kapor actually tried to *sell* his first versions of Lotus to VisiCorp and they turned him down. Are you sure? And not confusing that take with the fact that he did sell a graphics add-on for visicalc to Visicalc. And used that money as start-up capital for 123. 6-months prior to its release, 123 had the BUZZ. The WSJ ran a front-page article on it. It had a bigback log demand long before it was released -- due to its superiority. It would have been silly to have tried to then sell it to VC given its market positioning. (I dropped my jaw upon reading the WSJ. Holy shit, thats Mitch Kapor!. Hey, I know this guy. Several friends recommended I write him regarding a job. To be like employee #5. For some stupid reason, I made excuses why that was a lame idea. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: But also designed 123 for the NEW IBM PC. And it became the killer app for the PC, Lotus made the PC (to a degree) the way Visicalc had made Apple. Right time, right place. But wrong facts, AFAIK. :-) VisiCalc had been available for IBM PCs since 1981. That could be. But I remember 123 as being THE ss app for PCs. Maybe visicacl was ported as 8-bit and 123 was 16-bit? Or something that made 123 JUST PLAIN better for the PC. Lotus wasn't really widely available until 1983. But it was better, and won. However, I agree with your examples as a broad analogy. But other factors were also in play. Like the fact that Mitch Kapor actually tried to *sell* his first versions of Lotus to VisiCorp and they turned him down. Are you sure? And not confusing that take with the fact that he did sell a graphics add-on for visicalc to Visicalc. And used that money as start-up capital for 123. 6-months prior to its release, 123 had the BUZZ. The WSJ ran a front-page article on it. It had a bigback log demand long before it was released -- due to its superiority. It would have been silly to have tried to then sell it to VC given its market positioning. OK. you are correct. Kapor did try to sell intial 123 to visicalc. I did not know that. VisiCalc became an almost instant success and provided many business people with an incentive to purchase a personal computer or an H-P 85 or 87 calculator from Hewlett-Packard (cf., Jim Ho, 1999). About 1 million copies of the spreadsheet program were sold during VisiCalc's product lifetime. Dan Bricklin has his version of the history of Software Arts and VisiCalc on the web at www.bricklin.com/history/sai.htm. Bricklin includes early ads and reviews and pictures of the VisiCalc packaging and screenshots. What came after VisiCalc? The market for electronic spreadsheet software was growing rapidly in the early 1980s and VisiCalc stakeholders were slow to respond to the introduction of the IBM PC that used an Intel computer chip. Beginning in September 1983, legal conflicts between VisiCorp and Software Arts distracted the VisiCalc developers, Bricklin and Frankston. During this period, Mitch Kapor developed Lotus and his spreadsheet program quickly became the new industry spreadsheet standard. What is Lotus 1-2-3? Lotus 1-2-3 made it easier to use spreadsheets and it added integrated charting, plotting and database capabilities. Lotus 1-2-3 established spreadsheet software as a major data presentation package as well as a complex calculation tool. Lotus was also the first spreadsheet vendor to introduce naming cells, cell ranges and spreadsheet macros. Kapor was the VisiCalc product manager at Personal Software for about six months in 1980; he also designed and programmed Visiplot/Visitrend which he sold to Personal Software (VisiCorp)for $1 million. Part of that money along with funds from venture capitalist Ben Rosen were used to start Lotus Development Corporation in 1982. Kapor cofounded Lotus Development Corporation with Jonathan Sachs. Before he cofounded Lotus, Kapor disclosed and offered Personal Software (VisiCorp) his initial Lotus program. Supposedly VisiCorp executives declined the offer because Lotus 1-2-3's functionality was too limited. Lotus 1-2-3 is still one of the all-time best selling application software packages in the world (see email from Mitch Kapor, 04/15/1999). http://www.dssresources.com/history/sshistory.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)
Kapor cofounded Lotus Development Corporation with Jonathan Sachs. http://www.dssresources.com/history/sshistory.html Disgrunted 'ru though he was, do you think Mitch Kapor came up with Lotus as a name for his company as a result of his exposure to Indian culture via TM? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kapor cofounded Lotus Development Corporation with Jonathan Sachs. http://www.dssresources.com/history/sshistory.html Disgrunted 'ru though he was, do you think Mitch Kapor came up with Lotus as a name for his company as a result of his exposure to Indian culture via TM? Biography of Mitch Kapor: Mitchell Kapor, 55, is the President and Chair of the Open Source Applications Foundation (www.osafoundation.org), a non-profit organization he founded in 2001 to promote the development and acceptance of high-quality application software developed and distributed using open source methods and licenses. He is widely known as founder of Lotus Development Corporation and the designer of Lotus 1-2-3, the killer application which made the personal computer ubiquitous in the business world in the 1980's. He has been at the forefront of the information technology revolution for a generation as an entrepreneur, investor, social activist, and philanthropist. Mr. Kapor was born in Brooklyn, New York in 1950 and attended public schools in Freeport, Long Island, where he graduated from high school in 1967. He received a B.A. from Yale College in 1971 and studied psychology, linguistics, and computer science as part of an interdisciplinary major in Cybernetics. At Yale, he was very involved with the college's commercial radio station, WYBC-FM, where he served as Music Director and Program Director. In the 1970's Mr. Kapor worked as a disc jockey at WHCN-FM, a commercial progressive rock station in Hartford, Connecticut; became a teacher of Transcendental Meditation and taught TM in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and Fairfield, Iowa; and worked as an entry-level computer programmer in Cambridge, Massachusetts. In 1978, he received a Master's degree in counseling psychology from Campus-Free College (later called Beacon College) in Boston and worked as a mental health counselor at New England Memorial Hospital in Stoneham, Massachusetts. He also attended the Sloan School of Management at MIT, taking a leave of absence one term short of graduation in 1980 in order to take a job in a Silicon Valley start-up company. In 1978 he bought an Apple II personal computer and worked as an independent software consultant; as the co-developer of Tiny Troll, the first graphics and statistics program for the Apple II; as a product manager for Personal Software Inc., the publisher of VisiCalc, the world's first electronic spreadsheet; and as the designer and programmer (in BASIC) of VisiPlot and VisiTrend, companion products to VisiCalc. He founded Lotus Development Corp. in 1982 and with Jonathan Sachs, who was responsible for technical architecture and implementation, created Lotus 1-2-3. He served as the President (later Chairman) and Chief Executive Officer of Lotus from 1982 to 1986 and as a Director until 1987. In 1983, Lotus' first year of operations, the company achieved revenues of $53,000,000 and had a successful public offering. In 1984 the company tripled in revenue to $156,000,000. The number of employees grew to over a thousand by 1985. After leaving executive management at Lotus, he spent 1986 and 1987 completing work on his favorite product, Lotus Agenda, the first application for Personal Information Management (PIM), and as a visiting scientist at MIT's Center for Cognitive Science and the MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory. From 1987-1990 Mr. Kapor served as the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of ON Technology, a developer of software applications for workgroup computing. In 1990 with John Perry Barlow, he co-founded the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and served as its chairman until 1994. The EFF is a non- profit civil liberties organization working in the public interest to protect privacy, free expression, and access to public resources and information online, as well as to promote responsibility in new media. In 1992 and 1993 he chaired the Massachusetts Commission on Computer Technology and Law which was chartered to investigate and report on issues raised by the problem of computer crime in the state. He also served as a member of the Computer Science and Technology Board of the National Research Council and the National Information Infrastructure Advisory Council. From 1994-1996, he served as Adjunct Professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's Media Lab where he taught courses on software design, Democracy and the Internet, and digital community. For almost 20 years, Mr. Kapor has been an investor in high- technology start-up companies (through Kapor Enterprises, Inc.) and an advisor to entrepreneurs. He was a founding investor of UUNET and Real Networks. He is also Chairman of the Board of Linden Research, founded by Philip Rosedale, former CTO of Real Networks, the creator of Second Life, the leading online virtual world. From
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kapor cofounded Lotus Development Corporation with Jonathan Sachs. http://www.dssresources.com/history/sshistory.html Disgrunted 'ru though he was, do you think Mitch Kapor came up with Lotus as a name for his company as a result of his exposure to Indian culture via TM? I would guess that. But then from what I observed, Mitch had a kind of wicked witty sense of humor. His using the Lotus name might have been meant as something ironic -- but still something that might appeal to consumers. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)
Disgrunted 'ru though he was, do you think Mitch Kapor came up with Lotus as a name for his company as a result of his exposure to Indian culture via TM? Could be, and 1-2-3 is Benson's Relaxation Response and the first two advancements of it. --- Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kapor cofounded Lotus Development Corporation with Jonathan Sachs. http://www.dssresources.com/history/sshistory.html Disgrunted 'ru though he was, do you think Mitch Kapor came up with Lotus as a name for his company as a result of his exposure to Indian culture via TM? http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,116166,pg,3,00.asp __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)
a quite disgruntled and non-practicing TMer by that time -- having left his 6-month course in the middle of the night tired with this bs -- paraphrasing. Mitch taught in the Cambridge Center and in the short-lived Boston Center on swank Newbury Street, and taught one of my residence courses in Natick, MA. One of the Cambridge lady governors defended him years after he left the movement by insisting Mitch had unbearable headaches on the course and talked to MMY about it and it was agreed he should leave the course. He did knock TMers in an Esquire magazine article years later, posing the question: if TMers are supposed to be so enlightened, how come they're so messed up? Dan Fylstra, the founder of Personal Software/VisiCorp was also a TM meditator and was married to a governor. He had a few Cambridge Center sidhis working for him back in 1978. I was one of them. http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,116166,pg,3,00.asp --- anon_couscous_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: A company called VisiCorp invented the spreadsheet and marketed it. Their product -- VisiCalc -- basically created the entire PC revolution; people used to walk into the early computer stores saying, I want a VisiCalc. The clerks would say, No, what you want is a computer, on which you can run VisiCalc. And the customer would say, Whatever. Just sell me a VisiCalc. Visicalc, as the killer app, made Apple -- the (IBM) PC was yet to come. (As another aside, after Lotus -- started by a TMer -- a quite disgruntled and non-practicing TMer by that time -- having left his 6-month course in the middle of the night tired with this bs -- paraphrasing. stole the entire spreadsheet market away from VisiCorp, But also designed 123 for the NEW IBM PC. And it became the killer app for the PC, Lotus made the PC (to a degree) the way Visicalc had made Apple. Right time, right place. However, I agree with your examples as a broad analogy. But other factors were also in play. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a quite disgruntled and non-practicing TMer by that time -- having left his 6-month course in the middle of the night tired with this bs -- paraphrasing. Mitch taught in the Cambridge Center and in the short-lived Boston Center on swank Newbury Street, and taught one of my residence courses in Natick, MA. One of the Cambridge lady governors defended him years after he left the movement by insisting Mitch had unbearable headaches on the course and talked to MMY about it and it was agreed he should leave the course. I read an interview by Mitch and he was pretty explicit that he just saw no point to the course and packed up his stuff and walked to the train station. I am not sure that translated into his being anti-tm. just anti that course. I was on that course, and I was a bit disappointed myself at times. The course seemed pretty looose and experimental. And as I recall, his departure was pretty abrupt. Word came the next morning that he had just up and left. And I don't remember him complaining about severe headaches when M. was there, in group meetings etc. If it was a mutual agreement sort of thing, then it would seem it would have been less abrupt, some good byes, a car to take him to the train station, etc. Not a hasty, silent, late night exit. He did knock TMers in an Esquire magazine article years later, posing the question: if TMers are supposed to be so enlightened, how come they're so messed up? Dan Fylstra, the founder of Personal Software/VisiCorp was also a TM meditator and was married to a governor. Interesting. I did not know that. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The TMO as VisiCorp :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_couscous_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam jpgillam@ wrote: Kapor cofounded Lotus Development Corporation with Jonathan Sachs. http://www.dssresources.com/history/sshistory.html Disgrunted 'ru though he was, do you think Mitch Kapor came up with Lotus as a name for his company as a result of his exposure to Indian culture via TM? I would guess that. But then from what I observed, Mitch had a kind of wicked witty sense of humor. His using the Lotus name might have been meant as something ironic -- but still something that might appeal to consumers. Vaguely I recall that Lotus was based on his Buddhist beliefs, but I may be wrong... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
