Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What sort of prison sentence do you think ]Bush] shou...

2005-12-21 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 12/20/05 6:52:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
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I recall 
  the "dutch rub" -- I think thats what the maneuveur wascalled. Where 
  -- an usually younger kid -- was grapped, in aheadlock, then 
  his head was rapidly rubbed with the knuckles of acleached fist, which 
  generated pretty intense heat. Not exactly anendearing 
move.

That's also called getting noogies. Todd used to give noogies 
to Lisa Loopner all the time. It was a masculine way of showing 
affection.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What sort of prison sentence do you think ]Bush] shou...

2005-12-21 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 12/20/05 7:02:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But for 
  a southerner growing up during segregation its hard to imaginehe didn't 
  understand what it meant. Or he is dense. Like someone who grrew up in 
  the 50's and 60's anddoesn't "get" that there was inherent racism in "Aunt 
  Jamaiah" ads.And to then walk up to a modern day elderly black woman 
  and say, "Youlook just like Aunt Jamaiah -- I bet you make great 
  pancakes". Either way, its not a pretty 
picture.

No it's not hard to imagine at all. I grew up in Texas during 
segregation and never heard that rubbing a Negroes' head was done for luck. In 
fact I could see that being used as an excuse to put your hand ahead full 
of stubble or short napping hair to feel the texture. Growing up in the fifties 
the common hair cut was either a crew cut or a flat top and rubbing a white 
person's head was just as common if not more so. No racism or disrespect was 
ever intended, if anything, it showed affection and acceptance. Of course if 
somebody rubbed a Negroes' head and said "boy, aren't you on the wrong side of 
the tracks?" you have a different story. Attitude is the 
key.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: What sort of prison sentence do you think ]Bush] shou...

2005-12-21 Thread braaahmaan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 12/20/05 7:02:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 But for  a southerner growing up during segregation its hard to imagine
 he didn't  understand what it meant. 
 
 Or he is dense. Like someone who grrew up in  the 50's and 60's and
 doesn't get that there was inherent racism in Aunt  Jamaiah  ads.
 And to then walk up to a modern day elderly black woman  and say, You
 look just like Aunt Jamaiah -- I bet you make great  pancakes. 
 
 Either way, its not a pretty  picture.
 
 
 
 No it's not hard to imagine at all. I grew up in Texas during 
segregation 
 and never heard that rubbing a Negroes' head was done for luck. 


Ok. If you are saying this is teh first time you have ever heard of
the practice. Which is odd, I grew up in the north and heard of the
practice at some point -- probably in college years. Perhaps we each
had different levels of social awareness.





In  fact I could 
 see that being used as an excuse to put your hand a head full  of
stubble or 
 short napping hair to feel the texture. Growing up in the fifties 
the common 
 hair cut was either a crew cut or a flat top and rubbing a white 
person's 
 head was just as common if not more so. No racism or disrespect was
 ever 
 intended, if anything, it showed affection and acceptance. Of course
if  somebody 
 rubbed a Negroes' head and said boy, aren't you on the wrong side
of  the 
 tracks? you have a different story. Attitude is the  key.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: What sort of prison sentence do you think ]Bush] shou...

2005-12-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   
  In a message dated 12/20/05 7:02:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
  But for  a southerner growing up during segregation its hard to 
imagine
  he didn't  understand what it meant. 
  
  Or he is dense. Like someone who grrew up in  the 50's and 60's 
and
  doesn't get that there was inherent racism in Aunt  Jamaiah  
ads.
  And to then walk up to a modern day elderly black woman  and 
say, You
  look just like Aunt Jamaiah -- I bet you make great  pancakes. 
  
  Either way, its not a pretty  picture.
  
  
  
  No it's not hard to imagine at all. I grew up in Texas during 
 segregation 
  and never heard that rubbing a Negroes' head was done for luck. 
 
 
 Ok. If you are saying this is teh first time you have ever heard of
 the practice. Which is odd, I grew up in the north and heard of the
 practice at some point -- probably in college years. Perhaps we 
each
 had different levels of social awareness.





Howard Stern habitually refers to Spike Lee as a peanut head.

Do you think it would be racist of him if he were to give Spike Lee 
noogies on the top of his head?







 
 
 
 
 
 In  fact I could 
  see that being used as an excuse to put your hand a head full  of
 stubble or 
  short napping hair to feel the texture. Growing up in the 
fifties 
 the common 
  hair cut was either a crew cut or a flat top and rubbing a white 
 person's 
  head was just as common if not more so. No racism or disrespect 
was
  ever 
  intended, if anything, it showed affection and acceptance. Of 
course
 if  somebody 
  rubbed a Negroes' head and said boy, aren't you on the wrong 
side
 of  the 
  tracks? you have a different story. Attitude is the  key.
 







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[FairfieldLife] Re: What sort of prison sentence do you think ]Bush] shou...

2005-12-21 Thread braaahmaan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

   In a message dated 12/20/05 7:02:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
   But for  a southerner growing up during segregation its hard to 
 imagine
   he didn't  understand what it meant. 
   
   Or he is dense. Like someone who grrew up in  the 50's and 60's 
 and
   doesn't get that there was inherent racism in Aunt  Jamaiah  
 ads.
   And to then walk up to a modern day elderly black woman  and 
 say, You
   look just like Aunt Jamaiah -- I bet you make great  pancakes. 
   
   Either way, its not a pretty  picture.
   
   
   
   No it's not hard to imagine at all. I grew up in Texas during 
  segregation 
   and never heard that rubbing a Negroes' head was done for luck. 
  
  
  Ok. If you are saying this is teh first time you have ever heard of
  the practice. Which is odd, I grew up in the north and heard of the
  practice at some point -- probably in college years. Perhaps we 
 each
  had different levels of social awareness.
 
 
 
 
 
 Howard Stern habitually refers to Spike Lee as a peanut head.
 
 Do you think it would be racist of him if he were to give Spike Lee 
 noogies on the top of his head?
 

Well if peanut butter were involved -- for sure





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What sort of prison sentence do you think ]Bush] shou...

2005-12-21 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 12/21/05 9:37:44 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Howard 
  Stern habitually refers to Spike Lee as a "peanut head".Do you think 
  it would be racist of him if he were to give Spike Lee noogies on the top 
  of his head?

not at all





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What sort of prison sentence do you think ]Bush] shou...

2005-12-21 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 12/21/05 9:39:13 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
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 No 
  it's not hard to imagine at all. I grew up in Texas during segregation 
   and never heard that rubbing a Negroes' head was done for luck. 
  Ok. If you are saying this is teh first time you have ever heard 
  ofthe practice. Which is odd, I grew up in the north and heard of 
  thepractice at some point -- probably in college years. Perhaps we 
  eachhad different levels of social 
awareness.

Could be a regional superstition. I would be more inclined for 
Negro's to view it as a sign of dominance by a white person in the old 
segregated South. And the white perception, would have been more of 
friendly affection. Your two different "levels" of social awareness. One 
based on mistrust and submission and the other outwardly and open affection for 
his fellow man.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What sort of prison sentence do you think ]Bush] shou...

2005-12-20 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 12/20/05 2:15:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
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Mr Bush 
  was introduced by an African-American male, whose head Mr Bush proceeded 
  to rub while grinning and smirking.

Wish I had a dollar for every time somebody rubbed my head 
when I was a kid and had a flat top or crew cut. The only response I ever got to 
why people did that was that they liked the way it 
felt.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What sort of prison sentence do you think ]Bush] shou...

2005-12-20 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What sort of prison sentence do you think ]Bush] shou...





on 12/20/05 3:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 12/20/05 2:15:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mr Bush was introduced by an African-American male, 
whose head Mr Bush proceeded to rub while grinning and 
smirking.
Wish I had a dollar for every time somebody rubbed my head when I was a kid and had a flat top or crew cut. The only response I ever got to why people did that was that they liked the way it felt.

I still do that with one friend who has a crew cut. And with another friend who has curly hair, I grab a fistful of it and give it a tug. Its an old joke between us. But I would never do these things with relative strangers.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: What sort of prison sentence do you think ]Bush] shou...

2005-12-20 Thread ffia1120
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 12/20/05 2:15:22 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Mr Bush  was introduced by an African-American male, 
 whose head Mr Bush proceeded  to rub while grinning and 
 smirking.
 
 
 
 Wish I had a dollar for every time somebody rubbed my head  when I 
was a kid 
 and had a flat top or crew cut. The only response I ever got to  
why people 
 did that was that they liked the way it  felt.

It is also a way to show affection. Since touchy/feely stuff is not 
always acceptable with boys, rubbing, scruffing, gently tugging at 
someone's hair is one way to say I like you. without having to say 
those words out loud.





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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: What sort of prison sentence do you think ]Bush] shou...

2005-12-20 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 12/20/05 4:02:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Mr 
  Bush was introduced by an African-American male,  whose head Mr 
  Bush proceeded to rub while grinning and  smirking. 
 Wish I had a dollar for every time somebody rubbed 
  my head when I was a kid  and had a flat top or crew cut. 
  The only response I ever got to why people  did that was 
  that they liked the way it felt.It is also a way to show 
  affection. Since touchy/feely stuff is not always acceptable with boys, 
  rubbing, scruffing, gently tugging at someone's hair is one way to say "I 
  like you." without having to say those words out 
loud.

I'll have to agree with that. It usually was a friend, cousin 
or older relative, like an uncle that would do that. Just like the aunt that 
pinches your cheeks and shakes them! I preferred the rubbing on top of my 
head!





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[FairfieldLife] Re: What sort of prison sentence do you think ]Bush] shou...

2005-12-20 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 12/20/05 2:15:22 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Mr Bush  was introduced by an African-American male, 
 whose head Mr Bush proceeded  to rub while grinning and 
 smirking.
 
 
 
 Wish I had a dollar for every time somebody rubbed my head  when I 
was a kid 
 and had a flat top or crew cut. The only response I ever got to  
why people 
 did that was that they liked the way it  felt.



I remember that scene from My life as a dog when a girl asks 
Ingemar, who has a crew cut, if she could feel his hair.  
Afterwards, she says: I thought it would be sharper.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: What sort of prison sentence do you think ]Bush] shou...

2005-12-20 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 12/20/05 3:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  In a message dated 12/20/05 2:15:22 P.M. Central Standard Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Mr Bush  was introduced by an African-American male,
  whose head Mr Bush proceeded  to rub while grinning and
  smirking.
  Wish I had a dollar for every time somebody rubbed my head when 
I was a kid
  and had a flat top or crew cut. The only response I ever got to 
why people did
  that was that they liked the way it felt.
  
 I still do that with one friend who has a crew cut. And with 
another friend
 who has curly hair, I grab a fistful of it and give it a tug. It¹s 
an old
 joke between us. But I would never do these things with relative 
strangers.


you're talking about the hair on his head?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: What sort of prison sentence do you think ]Bush] shou...

2005-12-20 Thread braaahmaan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 In a message dated 12/20/05 4:02:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Mr  Bush  was introduced by an African-American male, 
  whose head Mr  Bush proceeded  to rub while grinning and 
  smirking.
   
  
  
  Wish I had a dollar for every time somebody rubbed  my head  when I 
 was a kid 
  and had a flat top or crew cut.  The only response I ever got to  
 why people 
  did that was  that they liked the way it  felt.
 
 It is also a way to show  affection. Since touchy/feely stuff is not 
 always acceptable with boys,  rubbing, scruffing, gently tugging at 
 someone's hair is one way to say I  like you. without having to say 
 those words out  loud.
 

I recall the dutch rub -- I think thats what the maneuveur was
called. Where --  an usually younger kid --  was grapped, in a
headlock, then his head was rapidly rubbed with the knuckles of a
cleached fist, which generated pretty intense heat. Not exactly an
endearing move.







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