--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
Careful, Ravi. You haven't been here long enough to know that
saying something
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/4y3jf8v
I mean, how'd you like to have that image inhabiting
your nightmares and daydreams? Could you think clearly
if that was the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
All our experience is subjective, even that of the outside
objective world about which we construe facts.
What appear to us to be facts.
I know of no law that says we have to either keep the
experiences we
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardjwilliamstexas
willytex@... wrote:
So my thesis is that subjective experience *in itself*
is a selfish act that is of no use to anyone else in
the world...
So, we can believe something is true based on what we see
and what we
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@ wrote:
All our experience is subjective, even that of the outside
objective world about which we construe facts.
What appear to us to be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
snip
Turq writes. He says certain things. Sometimes he seems
to take viewpoints opposite of what he wrote about
before. He seems to imply he has a choice in what he
does, and his flip flops are an expression
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@ wrote:
All our experience is subjective, even that of the outside
objective
If, so it's another Turq flip-flop, since Turq recently
proclaimed to be a non-believer in a transcendental
experience. Go figure.
Xenophaneros Anartaxius:
All our experience is subjective, even that of the outside
objective world about which we construe facts...
So, we get
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@ wrote:
A selfish act seems to imply will.
The decision to
Ravi:
I should clarify when he uses the term subjective
experiences he is referring to claims of enlightenment
and spiritual experiences...
Maybe so, but the idea of 'enlightenment' comes from the
verbal testimony of others, not from observation, or from
subjective experience.
People
One of the many things I love about Turq'sand Judy's writing, besides the
punctuation, is that neither of them abuse adverbs or adjectives. I'll bet
money
they can both cook as well.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:
One of the many things I love about Turq'sand Judy's writing,
besides the punctuation, is that neither of them abuse adverbs
or adjectives. I'll bet money they can both cook as well.
Oh, I get it. You're on commission for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote:
Whoa, just a point to clarify here, since you and I have
been down this road before. Just because I suspect that
there might not be the free will it feels as if we have,
does not mean I think God is conducting the
turquoiseb:
He may, in fact, be the one writing this post
Obviously Barry is in a state of denial. Go figure.
(This may be a duplicate; the first try hasn't shown up,
and it's been hours.)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
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H. I'm getting the feeling that even Ravi is
smart enough to realize that the fantasy image
involved here is what Judy *hopes* I see her
...@yahoo.co.uk
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Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 10:52:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Writing As Spiritual Practice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:
One of the many things I love about Turq'sand Judy's writing,
besides
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
(This may be a duplicate; the first try hasn't shown up,
and it's been hours.)
Yahoo's having issues again. I'm seeing posts arrive in my gmail feed today
that were sent yesterday.
...@yahoo.co.uk
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 10:52:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Writing As Spiritual Practice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:
One of the many things I love about Turq'sand Judy's writing,
besides
Wow this is the first time I'm reading a message of yours that seems to
include words such as sadhana, spiritual practice, belief, shakti,
transcendence with positive connotations without bashing the usual
suspects.
Good luck and enjoy your time there !!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
One of Rama's one-liners was that Writers write to figure things
out. He not only expected us to do this -- everyone was encouraged
to keep a Journal in which you recorded your spiritual experiences
and thoughts -- he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:
Wow this is the first time I'm reading a message of yours that
seems to include words such as sadhana, spiritual practice,
belief, shakti, transcendence with positive connotations without
bashing the usual suspects.
So
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@ wrote:
Wow this is the first time I'm reading a message of yours that
seems to include words such as sadhana, spiritual practice,
belief, shakti, transcendence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
So my thesis is that subjective experience *in itself* is
a selfish act that is of no use to anyone else in the world.
But taking that experience and then occultly finding a way
to express the inexpressible somehow, to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi raviyogi@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
Careful, Ravi. You haven't been here long enough to know that
saying something good about me can land you on the Enemies List.
Judy? I wouldn't worry
So my thesis is that subjective experience *in itself*
is a selfish act that is of no use to anyone else in
the world...
Ravi Yogi:
You are indeed right...
Huh?
It all depends on what you mean by knowledge and what
you mean by belief. Knowledge means having reasons, or
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, richardjwilliamstexas willytex@...
wrote:
So my thesis is that subjective experience *in itself*
is a selfish act that is of no use to anyone else in
the world...
Ravi Yogi:
You are indeed right...
Huh?
It all depends on what you mean
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Anyway, that's why I'm enjoying this other forum. Everybody knows
this,
and puts some impeccability into what they write. Not because they're
trying to impress anyone, or gain strokes from anyone, but because
it's
writing,
Honeymoons are great aren't they? Those first few days of bliss. Have
to see how things look in about a month. How those folks you are so
pleased with now, look after a month, and you to them.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
Anyway, that's why I'm enjoying this other forum. Everybody knows
this,
and puts some impeccability into what they write. Not because they're
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
Anyway, that's why I'm enjoying this other forum. Everybody knows
this, and puts some impeccability into what they write. Not
because they're trying
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
That's not exactly true. I have decided that many posters
on this forum are not *worth* reading. I may check them out
occasionally just as a kind of guilty pleasure, in the same
way that people who like to present themselves
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