Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-25 Thread Michael Jackson
 of your sheep and let me tend to mine.

On Sat, 1/25/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, January 25, 2014, 4:39 AM
   

   Anartaxius;  Lack of stability, not
 necessarily.  You are making that up and projecting it.
  As a meditating Iowa livestock man I got my spiritual
 feet on the ground in life proly more than most meditators
 around here.  Context is everything when people quote
 like MJ is trying to do on Maharishi. Think what you like
 but Maharishi was an extremely important guru to the world
 in the 20th and now 21st Centuries.   MJ just spouting
 something without cultural context like he perpetrates is
 being spiritually vile. Frankly I am concerned about
 MJ's eternal soul.  MJ is way too black and white
 without any attempt at showing understanding (empathy) of
 the grey tones. His attack on Maharishi for some quote
 pulled out of the air shows a lack of perspective.. that
 seems willful and aggressive to some bitter end.
  MJ's comments deserves to be deleted to protect
 virtue and MJ from further sin.  So, I have taken them
 out again below.-Buck  
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@...
 wrote:
 
 If
 Michael J has pointed out things M really said, this does
 not reflect on you Buck as a love of truth. Maharishi did
 really seem to have a totalitarian mindset, a top down,
 there is a king, under whom there are subjects, subject to
 the will of the king. If M praised Hitler and you would
 desire that it be lied about, either a lie of commission or
 a lie omission, why should I or anyone follow your
 advice? 
 Gurus
 have warts. If what they have to teach has value, it is not
 because of their personal quirks, it is because what they
 teach has a value beyond individual concerns. You take what
 is of value, but if you push away an individual's dark
 side as if it did not exist, that is not realistic, that is
 self deception. Hitler's influence on the world was not
 very life supporting in the end. 
 But
 there are those pearly teeth on the dead dog in the gutter.
 He was not a great artist, but he was a better artist than
 Winston Churchill, or Dwight Eisenhower, who also painted,
 as well as engineering Hitler's defeat. Maharishi seems
 to have appreciated his organising power, his penchant for
 order and systems, his top down style of management, which
 resembles more the Joseph Stalin school of management rather
 than say, Thomas Jefferson's preferences for individual
 freedom.
 In
 the interest of reality, I restored MJ's comments below
 (and by the way, taking offense shows a lack of stability,
 it means that others could use that characteristic to
 control your behaviour by  pushing your
 buttons):
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck
 wrote:
 
 
Om Dear MJ, that is an appalling
blaspheme that you may burn in hell for.  As a practicing
 conservative
Transcendental Meditation meditator and satisfied customer
 of the Maharishi, I am
completely offended by your comments.  I am going to delete
 your
words from this thread right now to save you from your sin
 damaging your spiritual subtle system any further.
Kindly,
and of the Love that is the Natural Law of the Unified
 Field,
your Friend,
-Buck    
 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@...
 wrote:
 
 MJ's
 Comments [Deleted] 
 [restored][Deleted]
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-25 Thread authfriend
Hey, Buck, you do realize, don't you, that deleting your quote of Michael's 
remarks doesn't delete them from the thread, right? They're still in Michael's 
original post, which you can't touch, and also in Xeno's post, which you can't 
touch either. All you can do is delete the quotes from your own posts. So you 
aren't really protecting anybody but yourself (and calling more attention to 
what Michael wrote than it might otherwise have gotten).
 
  MJ's comments deserves to be deleted to protect virtue and MJ from further 
sin.  So, I have taken them out again below. 
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread nablusoss1008
Why not ? BTW, a brand new Tape Library is being constructed in Vlodrop to 
house the Sea of tapes as Maharishi called them. Donations welcome.


Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread nablusoss1008
Once being driven from the airport in Frankfurt to a lecture Maharishi 
commented on the high standards of the Autobahn. And who built the first  
Autobahns ? That's right; the Nazis.
 

 His denouncers, the impatient guru-shoppers torn in different directions in 
life due to the dominance of rajas, now largely into various Buddhist 
techniques of feeling the body such as mindfulness and other such childlike 
practices claim this comment from a Guru with a status rarely seen proves 
Maharishi was a supporter of Nazism. 
 More than anything it shows how desperate the Maharishi-denouncers have become.


Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/23/2014 7:21 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 I was speaking somewhat in jest
 
So, you told a fib - do you know what happens to people who post lies 
and fabrications on this forum? LoL!


Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/23/2014 7:22 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 and I am willing to bet some of those talks were recorded on audio if 
 not video
 
How much would you be willing to wager? Has anyone ever heard a 
recording of MMY praising Hitler or Mussolini?



Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread anartaxius
If Michael J has pointed out things M really said, this does not reflect on you 
Buck as a love of truth. Maharishi did really seem to have a totalitarian 
mindset, a top down, there is a king, under whom there are subjects, subject to 
the will of the king. If M praised Hitler and you would desire that it be lied 
about, either a lie of commission or a lie omission, why should I or anyone 
follow your advice? 
 

 Gurus have warts. If what they have to teach has value, it is not because of 
their personal quirks, it is because what they teach has a value beyond 
individual concerns. You take what is of value, but if you push away an 
individual's dark side as if it did not exist, that is not realistic, that is 
self deception. Hitler's influence on the world was not very life supporting in 
the end. 
 

 But there are those pearly teeth on the dead dog in the gutter. He was not a 
great artist, but he was a better artist than Winston Churchill, or Dwight 
Eisenhower, who also painted, as well as engineering Hitler's defeat. Maharishi 
seems to have appreciated his organising power, his penchant for order and 
systems, his top down style of management, which resembles more the Joseph 
Stalin school of management rather than say, Thomas Jefferson's preferences for 
individual freedom.
 

 In the interest of reality, I restored MJ's comments below (and by the way, 
taking offense shows a lack of stability, it means that others could use that 
characteristic to control your behaviour by  pushing your buttons):

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:

 Om Dear MJ, that is an appalling blaspheme that you may burn in hell for. As a 
practicing conservative Transcendental Meditation meditator and satisfied 
customer of the Maharishi, I am completely offended by your comments. I am 
going to delete your words from this thread right now to save you from your sin 
damaging your spiritual subtle system any further. Kindly, and of the Love that 
is the Natural Law of the Unified Field, your Friend, -Buck 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:

 Comments [restored]
 

 If they promise to show some of the old black and white videos of Marshy 
praising Hitler, I'll go on the course. I would love to see how well we would 
all transcend after watching Marshy praise Der Fuhrer and Mussolini, and Robert 
Mugabe, and Marcos - p'raps they'll show the video of Marshy denouncing England 
as a scorpion nation, that would be quite fun too - I'd love to watch that one 
whilst we have a bit of spotted dick or drowned baby. That would be lovely.

 
 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread Michael Jackson
From some posts I copied from FFL:

A Swiss friend told me that several years ago she was on a course in Austria, 
and Satayand also characterized Hitler as a great leader.

In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@s... wrote:
This is from a Jewish friend who was full-time in the TMO for many years,
including Purusha and International Staff in Vlodrop and elsewhere. He's
now with a different teacher. We've been having a private discussion about this 
in recent days and I asked if I could post this. He said I could but asked
that I not mention his name.

 Some time after being on Purusha, I discovered, to my great amazement,
that some German Purusha were wearing swastikas under their ties, celebrating 
Hitler's birthday, and generally feeling very bully about the whole thing. I 
remembered what Frank Pappentine told me a few years back during our 6-month 
course in Arosa (we were good friends during that course): that Maharishi had 
met with the Germans in Seelisberg and told them that the Allies presented 
Hitler as a great demon to suppress the German morale, that the facts were 
different and that Hitler was, in fact, a good strong leader.

 I heard that from Maharishi myself, in Washington DC in 1983, when a reporter 
asked him what he thought of Hitler. He said, that Hitler was
 actually a good strong leader who unified Germany, it's just too bad that he 
did so much indiscriminate killing.


On 07/31/2013 10:57 AM, martyboi wrote:
40 years ago I read a document in the TM center about The Absolute Theory of 
Greatness. In this document various people from history were mentioned. The 
premise, as I recall (and I could have this all wrong, due to time) was that 
from the perspective of the absolute, a person's impact on the world 
(Greatness) is based on how many people his life affects. Both Hitler and 
Alexander the great were mentioned. Nature allows a truly great person to live 
a very long time (108 years?) I believe Veda Vyasa was mentioned as the 
greatest. I could have this all wrong.

Another person wrote:

Yes, I seem to recall seeing such a document myself. In fact it was a
subject of discussion at a teachers meeting with Charlie Lutes who was
in town. I seem to recall that Charlie said Maharishi was told to back
off on that because it would alienate a lot of Jewish supporters.

On Fri, 1/24/14, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 4:48 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   If Michael J has pointed out things M really
 said, this does not reflect on you Buck as a love of truth.
 Maharishi did really seem to have a totalitarian mindset, a
 top down, there is a king, under whom there are subjects,
 subject to the will of the king. If M praised Hitler and you
 would desire that it be lied about, either a lie of
 commission or a lie omission, why should I or anyone follow
 your advice? 
 Gurus
 have warts. If what they have to teach has value, it is not
 because of their personal quirks, it is because what they
 teach has a value beyond individual concerns. You take what
 is of value, but if you push away an individual's dark
 side as if it did not exist, that is not realistic, that is
 self deception. Hitler's influence on the world was not
 very life supporting in the end. 
 But
 there are those pearly teeth on the dead dog in the gutter.
 He was not a great artist, but he was a better artist than
 Winston Churchill, or Dwight Eisenhower, who also painted,
 as well as engineering Hitler's defeat. Maharishi seems
 to have appreciated his organising power, his penchant for
 order and systems, his top down style of management, which
 resembles more the Joseph Stalin school of management rather
 than say, Thomas Jefferson's preferences for individual
 freedom.
 In the
 interest of reality, I restored MJ's comments below (and
 by the way, taking offense shows a lack of stability, it
 means that others could use that characteristic to control
 your behaviour by  pushing your buttons):
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
 
 
Om Dear MJ, that is an appalling
blaspheme that you may burn in hell for.  As a practicing
 conservative
Transcendental Meditation meditator and satisfied customer
 of the Maharishi, I am
completely offended by your comments.  I am going to delete
 your
words from this thread right now to save you from your sin
 damaging your spiritual subtle system any further.
Kindly,
and of the Love that is the Natural Law of the Unified
 Field,
your Friend,
-Buck    
 
  ---In
 FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@...
 wrote:
 
 Comments [restored]
 If they promise to show some of the old
 black and white videos of Marshy praising Hitler

Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread Bhairitu
Yes, I recall the audio and/or videos where Maharishi said this back in 
the 1970s plus one of those thick gold fringed books had the statement 
too.  Of course there have been lots of tyrants who have unified 
countries and often at the point of a gun they hand to bullies in 
uniform.  There's a thing about Indians that they somehow think that the 
rich *should* rule.  Thus there was the Nehru dynasty which seems be 
trying to re-establish itself again.


On 01/24/2014 10:50 AM, Michael Jackson wrote:


From some posts I copied from FFL:

A Swiss friend told me that several years ago she was on a course in 
Austria, and Satayand also characterized Hitler as a great leader.


In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@s... wrote:
This is from a Jewish friend who was full-time in the TMO for many years,
including Purusha and International Staff in Vlodrop and elsewhere. He's
now with a different teacher. We've been having a private discussion 
about this in recent days and I asked if I could post this. He said I 
could but asked

that I not mention his name.

Some time after being on Purusha, I discovered, to my great amazement,
that some German Purusha were wearing swastikas under their ties, 
celebrating Hitler's birthday, and generally feeling very bully about 
the whole thing. I remembered what Frank Pappentine told me a few 
years back during our 6-month course in Arosa (we were good friends 
during that course): that Maharishi had met with the Germans in 
Seelisberg and told them that the Allies presented Hitler as a great 
demon to suppress the German morale, that the facts were different and 
that Hitler was, in fact, a good strong leader.


I heard that from Maharishi myself, in Washington DC in 1983, when a 
reporter asked him what he thought of Hitler. He said, that Hitler was
actually a good strong leader who unified Germany, it's just too bad 
that he did so much indiscriminate killing.


On 07/31/2013 10:57 AM, martyboi wrote:
40 years ago I read a document in the TM center about The Absolute 
Theory of Greatness. In this document various people from history 
were mentioned. The premise, as I recall (and I could have this all 
wrong, due to time) was that from the perspective of the absolute, a 
person's impact on the world (Greatness) is based on how many people 
his life affects. Both Hitler and Alexander the great were mentioned. 
Nature allows a truly great person to live a very long time (108 
years?) I believe Veda Vyasa was mentioned as the greatest. I could 
have this all wrong.


Another person wrote:

Yes, I seem to recall seeing such a document myself. In fact it was a
subject of discussion at a teachers meeting with Charlie Lutes who was
in town. I seem to recall that Charlie said Maharishi was told to back
off on that because it would alienate a lot of Jewish supporters.

On Fri, 1/24/14, anartax...@yahoo.com anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:

Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 4:48 PM


























If Michael J has pointed out things M really
said, this does not reflect on you Buck as a love of truth.
Maharishi did really seem to have a totalitarian mindset, a
top down, there is a king, under whom there are subjects,
subject to the will of the king. If M praised Hitler and you
would desire that it be lied about, either a lie of
commission or a lie omission, why should I or anyone follow
your advice?
Gurus
have warts. If what they have to teach has value, it is not
because of their personal quirks, it is because what they
teach has a value beyond individual concerns. You take what
is of value, but if you push away an individual's dark
side as if it did not exist, that is not realistic, that is
self deception. Hitler's influence on the world was not
very life supporting in the end.
But
there are those pearly teeth on the dead dog in the gutter.
He was not a great artist, but he was a better artist than
Winston Churchill, or Dwight Eisenhower, who also painted,
as well as engineering Hitler's defeat. Maharishi seems
to have appreciated his organising power, his penchant for
order and systems, his top down style of management, which
resembles more the Joseph Stalin school of management rather
than say, Thomas Jefferson's preferences for individual
freedom.
In the
interest of reality, I restored MJ's comments below (and
by the way, taking offense shows a lack of stability, it
means that others could use that characteristic to control
your behaviour by  pushing your buttons):

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:


Om Dear MJ, that is an appalling
blaspheme that you may burn in hell for. As a practicing
conservative
Transcendental Meditation meditator and satisfied customer
of the Maharishi, I am
completely offended by your comments. I am going to delete
your
words from this thread right now to save

Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread nablusoss1008
Do notice that all this gossip is from people who have left the Movement and 
might hold several grunges towards it. That  Rick Archer post negativity here 
from anonymous friends is nothing new and will happen again.


Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread Bhairitu
Sorry Nabby, but irregardless of how folks feel about TM, many DO recall 
MMY saying the stuff about Hitler.  Like I said, I feel it is mainly due 
to cultural differences.  There are folks in India back in the 30's and 
40s who thought that Nazism was a good thing and wrote about it.


On 01/24/2014 11:25 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:


Do notice that all this gossip is from people who have left the 
Movement and might hold several grunges towards it. That  Rick Archer 
post negativity here from anonymous friends is nothing new and 
will happen again.







Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread Michael Jackson
Don't they have the idea of Truth shall set you free in Germany???

On Fri, 1/24/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 7:25 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   Do notice that all this gossip is from people
 who have left the Movement and might hold several grunges
 towards it. That  Rick Archer post negativity here
 from anonymous friends is nothing new and
 will happen again.
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread Michael Jackson
It has been said by some who knew Marshy that he was an ardent Hindu - the fact 
that much of Nazi philosophy was based on Hindu principles may have made M warm 
towards Adolph. There are a good many things available on the Hindu 
underpinnings of the Nazi state. 

Here are a couple of excerpts from an article about Heinrich Himmler:

Himmler was also drawn to The Pilgrim Kamanita by the Danish author Karl 
Gjellerup, which was a contemporary best-seller. In his diary, Himmler 
commented: A precious narration. The content is the teaching of salvation.

Gjellerup's book quoted several verses from the Vedas, including: The one who 
kills believes that he is killing. The one who has been killed believes that he 
dies. Both of them are wrong, for one doesn't die and the other doesn't kill.

Later, Himmler delivered some of these same philosophies in his speeches to his 
SS officers.

In the 1920s and the early 1930s, Himmler read some popular books about 
Hinduism and Buddhism. Yet, his actual interest in classic Hindu texts came 
later, when he founded the SS-Ahnenerbe, the brain trust of the Black Order, a 
group of highly qualified academics and occultists that attempted to forge the 
ideology of a racist warrior religion.

In 1937, Himmler chose Professor Walter Wüst to serve as the president of the 
SS-Ahnenerbe.  Two years later, Wüst became the curator of this notorious 
organization. Incidentally, in addition to being one of the leading Sanskrit 
scholars of his time, Wüst served as the president of the Maximilian University 
in Munich.  In the academic world, Orientalists from this particular university 
were considered the top experts in their field.

Wüst was keenly interested in extracting ideas from the Vedas and Buddhism of 
the so-called Aryan tradition in order to give National Socialism a religious 
dimension. One slogan of his was: Also above India hovers the sun-sign of the 
Swastika.

To Wüst, Hitler appeared as the manifestation of a Chakravartin - Indo-Aryan 
world emperor.

Wüst tried to support this particular speculation by verses from classical 
Indian scriptures. Moreover, in one of his emotion-driven speeches, he compared 
Hitler with the historical Buddha. 

http://www.ibtimes.com/heinrich-himmler-nazi-hindu-21



On Fri, 1/24/14, Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 7:58 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
   
   
 Sorry Nabby,
 but irregardless of how
   folks feel about TM, many DO recall MMY saying the
 stuff about
   Hitler.  Like I said, I feel it is mainly due to
 cultural
   differences.  There are folks in India back in the
 30's and 40s
   who thought that Nazism was a good thing and wrote
 about it.
 
   
 
   On 01/24/2014 11:25 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote:
 
 
 
    
   
   
 Do notice that all this gossip is from people
 who have
   left the Movement and might hold several
 grunges towards
   it. That  Rick Archer post negativity here
 from anonymous
   friends is nothing new and will happen
 again.
   
   
   
   
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread nablusoss1008
You're sorry ? Right, you claimed it was Satyanand and NOT Maharishi that made 
that comment. You should be sorry


Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread Bhairitu

Nope, never said it was Satyanand.  You have me confused with someone else.

On 01/24/2014 01:33 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:


You're sorry ? Right, you claimed it was Satyanand and NOT Maharishi 
that made that comment. You should be sorry







Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread nablusoss1008
Correct, but you did write: many DO recall MMY saying the stuff about Hitler. 
 Without a reference to whom that many might be. That's slander. To your 
credit you don't post from a friend who wish to be anonymous like a certain 
Rick Archer does, FFL's Grand Master of Deception.


 


Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread nablusoss1008
Correct, but you did write: many DO recall MMY saying the stuff about Hitler. 
 Without a reference to whom that many might be or what the stuff is all 
about. That's slander. To your credit you don't post from a friend who wish to 
be anonymous like a certain Rick Archer does, FFL's Grand Master of Deception.


 




Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread Bhairitu
Don't quit your day job to be a lawyer.  What is your day job anyway?  
TM Fanatic? :-D


On 01/24/2014 03:38 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:


Correct, but you did write: many DO recall MMY saying the stuff about 
Hitler. 


Without a reference to whom that many might be or what the stuff 
is all about. That's slander. To your credit you don't post from a 
friend who wish to be anonymous like a certain Rick Archer 
does, FFL's Grand Master of Deception.







Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Anartaxius;  Lack of stability, not necessarily.  You are making that up and 
projecting it.  As a meditating Iowa livestock man I got my spiritual feet on 
the ground in life proly more than most meditators around here.  Context is 
everything when people quote like MJ is trying to do on Maharishi. Think what 
you like but Maharishi was an extremely important guru to the world in the 20th 
and now 21st Centuries.   MJ just spouting something without cultural context 
like he perpetrates is being spiritually vile. Frankly I am concerned about 
MJ's eternal soul.  MJ is way too black and white without any attempt at 
showing understanding (empathy) of the grey tones. His attack on Maharishi for 
some quote pulled out of the air shows a lack of perspective.. that seems 
willful and aggressive to some bitter end.  MJ's comments deserves to be 
deleted to protect virtue and MJ from further sin.  So, I have taken them out 
again below.
 -Buck  
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote:

 If Michael J has pointed out things M really said, this does not reflect on 
you Buck as a love of truth. Maharishi did really seem to have a totalitarian 
mindset, a top down, there is a king, under whom there are subjects, subject to 
the will of the king. If M praised Hitler and you would desire that it be lied 
about, either a lie of commission or a lie omission, why should I or anyone 
follow your advice? 
 

 Gurus have warts. If what they have to teach has value, it is not because of 
their personal quirks, it is because what they teach has a value beyond 
individual concerns. You take what is of value, but if you push away an 
individual's dark side as if it did not exist, that is not realistic, that is 
self deception. Hitler's influence on the world was not very life supporting in 
the end. 
 

 But there are those pearly teeth on the dead dog in the gutter. He was not a 
great artist, but he was a better artist than Winston Churchill, or Dwight 
Eisenhower, who also painted, as well as engineering Hitler's defeat. Maharishi 
seems to have appreciated his organising power, his penchant for order and 
systems, his top down style of management, which resembles more the Joseph 
Stalin school of management rather than say, Thomas Jefferson's preferences for 
individual freedom.
 

 In the interest of reality, I restored MJ's comments below (and by the way, 
taking offense shows a lack of stability, it means that others could use that 
characteristic to control your behaviour by  pushing your buttons):
 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:

 Om Dear MJ, that is an appalling blaspheme that you may burn in hell for. As a 
practicing conservative Transcendental Meditation meditator and satisfied 
customer of the Maharishi, I am completely offended by your comments. I am 
going to delete your words from this thread right now to save you from your sin 
damaging your spiritual subtle system any further. Kindly, and of the Love that 
is the Natural Law of the Unified Field, your Friend, -Buck 

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:

 MJ's Comments [Deleted]  [restored]
 [Deleted]
 

 

 
 On Thu, 1/23/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014, 10:43 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
We warmly invite you to join us for
 a weekend
 of deep relaxation with Transcendental
 Meditation
 
 This course is for those practising
 Transcendental Meditation
 who would like to experience an extended
 meditation
 programme. It is the ideal opportunity for
 anyone who
 has never been on a weekend course before to
 come
 and enjoy this deeply restful
 experience.
 Friday, 28th February to Sunday, 2nd
 March
 2014 Deep rest to restore
 balanceDuring the weekend you will have the
 opportunity to deepen your experience of Transcendental
 Meditation.
 
 Through extended practice of Transcendental
 Meditation you can benefit from deep rest to create the
 perfect condition for the mind and body to throw off stress
 and fatigue, to restore balance, stay healthy and feel your
 own inner happiness.
 
 We will also guide you through some simple
 and easy Maharishi Yoga Asanas (postures) and Pranayama
 (breathing exercises) to complement your daily practice of
 Transcendental Meditation.
 
 To discover and understand more about your
 experiences during meditation there will be special
 videotapes with questions and answer sessions each day. This
 will also provide a deeper insight into the
 development of consciousness through Transcendental
 Meditation and the practical benefits of
 the programme.  
 The
 venue
   
 The
 Transcendental Meditation residential course weekend will be
 at the De

Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Williams
So, are there any black and white videos on YouTube that show MMY praising
Hitler or Mussolini?


On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:39 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Anartaxius;  Lack of stability, not necessarily.  You are making that up
 and projecting it.  As a meditating Iowa livestock man I got my spiritual
 feet on the ground in life proly more than most meditators around here.
  Context is everything when people quote like MJ is trying to do on
 Maharishi. Think what you like but Maharishi was an extremely important
 guru to the world in the 20th and now 21st Centuries.   MJ just spouting
 something without cultural context like he perpetrates is being spiritually
 vile. Frankly I am concerned about MJ's eternal soul.  MJ is way too black
 and white without any attempt at showing understanding (empathy) of the
 grey tones. His attack on Maharishi for some quote pulled out of the air
 shows a lack of perspective.. that seems willful and aggressive to some
 bitter end.  MJ's comments deserves to be deleted to protect virtue and MJ
 from further sin.  So, I have taken them out again below.

 -Buck


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anartaxius@... wrote:

 If Michael J has pointed out things M really said, this does not reflect
 on you Buck as a love of truth. Maharishi did really seem to have a
 totalitarian mindset, a top down, there is a king, under whom there are
 subjects, subject to the will of the king. If M praised Hitler and you
 would desire that it be lied about, either a lie of commission or a lie
 omission, why should I or anyone follow your advice?


 Gurus have warts. If what they have to teach has value, it is not because
 of their personal quirks, it is because what they teach has a value beyond
 individual concerns. You take what is of value, but if you push away an
 individual's dark side as if it did not exist, that is not realistic, that
 is self deception. Hitler's influence on the world was not very life
 supporting in the end.


 But there are those pearly teeth on the dead dog in the gutter. He was not
 a great artist, but he was a better artist than Winston Churchill, or
 Dwight Eisenhower, who also painted, as well as engineering Hitler's
 defeat. Maharishi seems to have appreciated his organising power, his
 penchant for order and systems, his top down style of management, which
 resembles more the Joseph Stalin school of management rather than say,
 Thomas Jefferson's preferences for individual freedom.

 In the interest of reality, I restored MJ's comments below (and by the
 way, taking offense shows a lack of stability, it means that others could
 use that characteristic to control your behaviour by  pushing your buttons):

 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:

 Om Dear MJ, that is an appalling blaspheme that you may burn in hell for.
 As a practicing conservative Transcendental Meditation meditator and
 satisfied customer of the Maharishi, I am completely offended by your
 comments. I am going to delete your words from this thread right now to
 save you from your sin damaging your spiritual subtle system any 
 further.Kindly,and of the Love that is the Natural Law of the Unified 
 Field,your Friend,-Buck


 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:

 MJ's Comments [Deleted]  [restored]
 [Deleted]


 

 On Thu, 1/23/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014, 10:43 PM































We warmly invite you to join us for
 a weekend
 of deep relaxation with Transcendental
 Meditation

 This course is for those practising
 Transcendental Meditation
 who would like to experience an extended
 meditation
 programme. It is the ideal opportunity for
 anyone who
 has never been on a weekend course before to
 come
 and enjoy this deeply restful
 experience.
 Friday, 28th February to Sunday, 2nd
 March
 2014 Deep rest to restore
 balanceDuring the weekend you will have the
 opportunity to deepen your experience of Transcendental
 Meditation.

 Through extended practice of Transcendental
 Meditation you can benefit from deep rest to create the
 perfect condition for the mind and body to throw off stress
 and fatigue, to restore balance, stay healthy and feel your
 own inner happiness.

 We will also guide you through some simple
 and easy Maharishi Yoga Asanas (postures) and Pranayama
 (breathing exercises) to complement your daily practice of
 Transcendental Meditation.

 To discover and understand more about your
 experiences during meditation there will be special
 videotapes with questions and answer sessions each day. This
 will also provide a deeper insight into the
 development of consciousness through Transcendental
 Meditation and the practical benefits of
 the programme.
 The
 venue

 The
 Transcendental Meditation residential

[FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-23 Thread nablusoss1008


 We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
 of deep relaxation with Transcendental Meditation

 This course is for those practising Transcendental Meditation
 who would like to experience an extended meditation
 programme. It is the ideal opportunity for anyone who
 has never been on a weekend course before to come
 and enjoy this deeply restful experience.

Friday, 28th February to Sunday, 2nd March 2014
   Deep rest to restore balance During the weekend you will have the 
opportunity to deepen your experience of Transcendental Meditation.

 Through extended practice of Transcendental Meditation you can benefit from 
deep rest to create the perfect condition for the mind and body to throw off 
stress and fatigue, to restore balance, stay healthy and feel your own inner 
happiness.

 We will also guide you through some simple and easy Maharishi Yoga Asanas 
(postures) and Pranayama (breathing exercises) to complement your daily 
practice of Transcendental Meditation.

 To discover and understand more about your experiences during meditation there 
will be special videotapes with questions and answer sessions each day. This 
will also provide a deeper insight into the development of consciousness 
through Transcendental Meditation and the practical benefits of the programme.  
 
The venue
  
  
 

The Transcendental Meditation residential course weekend will be at the De 
Vere’s Milton Hill House Hotel, Steventon, Oxfordshire. A beautiful conference 
and spa hotel set in 20 acres of tranquil parkland. Milton Hill House is a warm 
friendly and delightful blend of modern comfort and traditional style.  Located 
just 13 miles from Oxford, it’s only 40 minutes by train from Paddington 
Station to the local station, Didcot Parkway, and a 10 minutes taxi ride to the 
hotel.

 If you plan to drive there is plenty of free car parking space in the hotel 
grounds.
   For more information on the hotel please visit: 
www.deverevenues.co.uk/en/venues/milton-hill-house 
http://davidlynchfoundation.us2.list-manage2.com/track/click?u=c90dd86172edf245db7402efdid=7d8df66ecfe=8679eb86f7
  
 
  
 
 
Course fee

The weekend will begin  at 7.30pm on Friday 28th 2014 and end at 3.30pm on 
Sunday 2nd March, 2014.

 Course fees are inclusive of accommodation and meals:
 Single room  £250
 Shared room £225

 If you would like to make a resevation on the course please click below and 
complete the application form. We will get back to you soon with details of 
payments and confirmation of your booking. 









Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-23 Thread Michael Jackson
If they promise to show some of the old black and white videos of Marshy 
praising Hitler, I'll go on the course. I would love to see how well we would 
all transcend after watching Marshy praise Der Fuhrer and Mussolini, and Robert 
Mugabe, and Marcos - p'raps they'll show the video of Marshy denouncing England 
as a scorpion nation, that would be quite fun too - I'd love to watch that one 
whilst we have a bit of spotted dick or drowned baby. That would be lovely.

On Thu, 1/23/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:

 Subject: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014, 10:43 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
  
 
   
  
 
    
  We warmly invite you to join us for
 a weekend

of deep relaxation with Transcendental
 Meditation
 

This course is for those practising
 Transcendental Meditation

who would like to experience an extended
 meditation

programme. It is the ideal opportunity for
 anyone who

has never been on a weekend course before to
 come

and enjoy this deeply restful
 experience.
 Friday, 28th February to Sunday, 2nd
 March
 2014 Deep rest to restore
 balanceDuring the weekend you will have the
 opportunity to deepen your experience of Transcendental
 Meditation.
 

Through extended practice of 
Transcendental
 Meditation you can benefit from deep rest to create the
 perfect condition for the mind and body to throw off stress
 and fatigue, to restore balance, stay healthy and feel your
 own inner happiness.
 

We will also guide you through some 
simple
 and easy Maharishi Yoga Asanas (postures) and Pranayama
 (breathing exercises) to complement your daily practice of
 Transcendental Meditation.    
 

To discover and understand more about 
your
 experiences during meditation there will be special
 videotapes with questions and answer sessions each day. This
 will also provide a deeper insight into the
 development of consciousness through Transcendental
 Meditation and the practical benefits of
 the programme.  
 The
 venue

  
 The
 Transcendental Meditation residential course weekend will be
 at the De Vere’s Milton Hill House Hotel, Steventon,
 Oxfordshire. A beautiful conference and spa hotel set in 20
 acres of tranquil parkland. Milton Hill House is a warm
 friendly and delightful blend of modern comfort and
 traditional style.  Located just 13 miles from Oxford,
 it’s only 40 minutes by train from Paddington Station to
 the local station, Didcot Parkway, and a 10 minutes taxi
 ride to the hotel.
 

If you plan to drive there is plenty of free car
 parking space in the hotel grounds.

    
 For more information
 on the hotel please visit: www.deverevenues.co.uk/en/venues/milton-hill-house

 

 
 Course
 fee
 
 The weekend will begin  at 7.30pm on
 Friday 28th 2014 and end at 3.30pm on Sunday 2nd March,
 2014.
 

Course fees are inclusive of accommodation and
 meals

Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-23 Thread dhamiltony2k5
Om Dear MJ, that is an appalling blaspheme that you may burn in hell for. As a 
practicing conservative Transcendental Meditation meditator and satisfied 
customer of the Maharishi, I am completely offended by your comments. I am 
going to delete your words from this thread right now to save you from your sin 
damaging your spiritual subtle system any further. Kindly, and of the Love that 
is the Natural Law of the Unified Field, your Friend, -Buck 
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote:

 Comments [removed]
 
 
 On Thu, 1/23/14, nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com 
mailto:no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote:
 
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, January 23, 2014, 10:43 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
We warmly invite you to join us for
 a weekend
 of deep relaxation with Transcendental
 Meditation
 
 This course is for those practising
 Transcendental Meditation
 who would like to experience an extended
 meditation
 programme. It is the ideal opportunity for
 anyone who
 has never been on a weekend course before to
 come
 and enjoy this deeply restful
 experience.
 Friday, 28th February to Sunday, 2nd
 March
 2014 Deep rest to restore
 balanceDuring the weekend you will have the
 opportunity to deepen your experience of Transcendental
 Meditation.
 
 Through extended practice of Transcendental
 Meditation you can benefit from deep rest to create the
 perfect condition for the mind and body to throw off stress
 and fatigue, to restore balance, stay healthy and feel your
 own inner happiness.
 
 We will also guide you through some simple
 and easy Maharishi Yoga Asanas (postures) and Pranayama
 (breathing exercises) to complement your daily practice of
 Transcendental Meditation.
 
 To discover and understand more about your
 experiences during meditation there will be special
 videotapes with questions and answer sessions each day. This
 will also provide a deeper insight into the
 development of consciousness through Transcendental
 Meditation and the practical benefits of
 the programme.  
 The
 venue
   
 The
 Transcendental Meditation residential course weekend will be
 at the De Vere’s Milton Hill House Hotel, Steventon,
 Oxfordshire. A beautiful conference and spa hotel set in 20
 acres of tranquil parkland. Milton Hill House is a warm
 friendly and delightful blend of modern comfort and
 traditional style.  Located just 13 miles from Oxford,
 it’s only 40 minutes by train from Paddington Station to
 the local station, Didcot Parkway, and a 10 minutes taxi
 ride to the hotel.
 
 If you plan to drive there is plenty of free car
 parking space in the hotel grounds.
   For more information
 on the hotel please visit: www.deverevenues.co.uk/en/venues/milton-hill-house
  
  
 Course
 fee
 
 The weekend will begin  at 7.30pm on
 Friday 28th 2014 and end at 3.30pm on Sunday 2nd March,
 2014.
 
 Course fees are inclusive of accommodation and
 meals:
 Single room  £250
 Shared room £225
 
 If you would like to make a resevation on the
 course please click below and complete the application form.
 We will get back to you soon with details of payments
 and confirmation of your
 booking.  



Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/23/2014 5:46 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 I'd love to watch that one whilst we have a bit of spotted dick or 
 drowned baby.
 
Has anyone on this list ever heard of MMY appearing in a black and white 
film or video praising Hitler or Mussolini?


Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-23 Thread Richard J. Williams
On 1/23/2014 6:33 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I am completely offended by your comments. I am going to delete your 
 words from this thread right now to save you from your sin damaging 
 your spiritual subtle system any further.
 
You better watch out, Buck -  Judy thinks his stories are wonderful and 
beautifully done. Go figure.


Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-23 Thread Michael Jackson
I was speaking somewhat in jest, although those who were around him in the old 
days say he did praise them both, especially when speaking to German or 
Austrian groups - he certainly did praise Marcos and Mugabe - that crap is a 
matter of record in the so-called Global Good News archives. 

On Fri, 1/24/14, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 12:34 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   On 1/23/2014 5:46 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 
  I'd love to watch that one whilst we have a bit of
 spotted dick or 
 
  drowned baby.
 
  
 
 Has anyone on this list ever heard of MMY appearing in a
 black and white 
 
 film or video praising Hitler or Mussolini?
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend

2014-01-23 Thread Michael Jackson
and I am willing to bet some of those talks were recorded on audio if not 
video, and are in the Movement's tape archives, but of course they will never 
allow them to be seen now.

On Fri, 1/24/14, Richard J. Williams pundits...@gmail.com wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] We warmly invite you to join us for a weekend
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 12:34 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   On 1/23/2014 5:46 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 
  I'd love to watch that one whilst we have a bit of
 spotted dick or 
 
  drowned baby.
 
  
 
 Has anyone on this list ever heard of MMY appearing in a
 black and white 
 
 film or video praising Hitler or Mussolini?