[FairfieldLife] What can feel insulted? Only the self. (was Re: Ann Coulter)

2007-05-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Peter:
 Jesus Christ! Here we go again. 
 
 Judy:
 F**k off, Peter. If somebody grossly misrepresented what you 
 had said and then called you a liar for saying it, I don't 
 imagine you'd let it go by.
 
 She, they, just don't get it.  It's an addiction, clothed in 
 moral indignance that their integrity has been violated, and 
 that it must be restored. God Save the Queen.  What they don't 
 realize, and likely, will never realize is that NO ONE CARES. 
 This, matters not a lick.  With the utmost seriousness they 
 cite the evidence which will win the case. (in their minds)

I don't want to (and won't) get into the specifics
of this kind of post and who does it, and why. What
fascinates me about it, spiritually, is that almost
by definition an angry or outraged reaction to some-
one else's post is the activity of a small s self
protecting itself, and in the process pushing Self
away.

The more one protects the notions that self has
of itself, the way it views itself, the more that
small s self is strengthened. Every time the small
s self reacts, has its button pushed, and says,
No, that's not right. That's not the way I see
myself, and therefore it's not true, the more 
that the I in the equation is strengthened and
becomes convinced that it exists.

Conversely, we see other posters here who are able
to say, Hey...that's definitely not the way that
I normally see my actions, but it's a valid way of
seeing my actions, because another human being, on
a par with myself *because* they're another human
being, saw it that way. Maybe *both* ways of seeing
the situation are true on some level, even though
*none* of them describe the situation as a whole. 

The ability to do this seems to me to be related to 
two traits. The first is having a certain fluidity
of self (which in turn seems to be based on having
a certain familiarity with Self, and knowing the 
difference between the two). The second is having 
the ability to perceive their fellow posters as 
*equals*, and not feel superior to them. IMO, the
posters here who are able to rise above having to
react angrily when someone portrays them in a diff-
erent way than they see themselves can do so because
they have a basic level of respect for the other
posters, and consider them their equals. We're all
just seekers here, and all that. In general, those
who become indignant do so because they've been
insulted by someone they consider lesser than
themselves.

Easy solution, in both cases -- laugh more. Laugh
at the jibes and insults, when they really are
jibes and insults. Laugh at those who feel compelled
to post the jibes and insults consistently, and thus
reveal so much about themselves. And most of all,
laugh at one's self, that tiny little imaginary
thing that, for a moment, feels insulted because
someone doesn't take it seriously. Because the more 
you laugh at the little sucker and *don't* take it
seriously, the less hold it has over you. Laugh at 
the self long enough and it'll go away, leaving 
only Self.





[FairfieldLife] What can feel insulted? Only the self. (was Re: Ann Coulter)

2007-05-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
  IMO, the
 posters here who are able to rise above having to
 react angrily when someone portrays them in a diff-
 erent way than they see themselves can do so because
 they have a basic level of respect for the other
 posters, and consider them their equals. We're all
 just seekers here, and all that. In general, those
 who become indignant do so because they've been
 insulted by someone they consider lesser than
 themselves.

It's interesting, I have never, even for a second,
thought of anyone on this forum--or anywhere else,
for that matter--as lesser than myself.  That
concept is just completely foreign to me and always
has been, no matter how nastily they have insulted
me (or someone else), no matter what kind of
falsehoods the other person has told about me (or
someone or something else), no matter how blatant
the hypocrisy they indulge in.

It's curious that some people seem to see that
kind of thinking in me and others when there's a 
disagreement of some kind.

Especially in a post in which *they* clearly
indicate that they believe their own purported
egalitarianism makes them superior to those
whom they believe perceive others to be inferior.




[FairfieldLife] What can feel insulted? Only the self. (was Re: Ann Coulter)

2007-05-31 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below:

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
   IMO, the
  posters here who are able to rise above having to
  react angrily when someone portrays them in a diff-
  erent way than they see themselves can do so because
  they have a basic level of respect for the other
  posters, and consider them their equals. We're all
  just seekers here, and all that. In general, those
  who become indignant do so because they've been
  insulted by someone they consider lesser than
  themselves.
 
 It's interesting, I have never, even for a second,
 thought of anyone on this forum--or anywhere else,
 for that matter--as lesser than myself.  That
 concept is just completely foreign to me and always
 has been, no matter how nastily they have insulted
 me (or someone else), no matter what kind of
 falsehoods the other person has told about me (or
 someone or something else), no matter how blatant
 the hypocrisy they indulge in.
 
 It's curious that some people seem to see that
 kind of thinking in me and others when there's a 
 disagreement of some kind.
 
 Especially in a post in which *they* clearly
 indicate that they believe their own purported
 egalitarianism makes them superior to those
 whom they believe perceive others to be inferior.

 **end**

But, Judy, can't you see that referring to certain people as nasty,
insulting, hypocritical liars might make them feel as if you're making
a value judgment?



[FairfieldLife] What can feel insulted? Only the self. (was Re: Ann Coulter)

2007-05-31 Thread Richard J. Williams
TurquoiseB wrote:
 Laugh at those who feel compelled to post the 
 jibes and insults consistently, and thus
 reveal so much about themselves. 

guffaw!

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 What Willytex is *really* doing with those prairie dogs
 Willytex's (Richard Williams) new name!
 Willy's a troll.
 Wee Willy Wanker
 Willytex's new name!
 You had him pegged right - he's a total loser. 

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