Yeah, I got to go up to Spencer Mass and be part of checking the brothers
meditations and giving advanced lectures on meditation and TM back in the days.
Was an exciting time in American spirituality. Those were heady times in TM
and also watching the start of the whole centering prayer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
I just finished reading Bill Howell's CULT, I know it took me long
time, but I did not read it continuously, it wasn't on the top of my
agenda.
I must say that I was very touched by the last chapter, before the
epilogue, called 'Desert'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray27 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
I just finished reading Bill Howell's CULT, I know it took me long
time, but I did not read it continuously, it wasn't on the top of my
agenda.
I must say that I was very
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
Yeah, I got to go up to Spencer Mass and be part of checking the brothers
meditations and giving advanced lectures on meditation and TM back in the
days. Was an exciting time in American spirituality. Those were heady times
in TM and
What an extraordinary man. How wonderful that you interviewed him. He was a
huge part in the healing process for many of my friends when they moved forward
from their time in the context with Robin back in the mid 1980's. I spent
time at the monastery as well, a stunning place in Snowmass
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On Dec 5, 2011, at 11:04 PM, sparaig wrote:
Not every buddhist would agree that it is a scam, of course...
You can fool some of the people, some of the time has been the
sales strategy of the TMO for decades.
On Dec 5, 2011, at 11:04 PM, sparaig wrote:
Not every buddhist would agree that it is a scam, of course...
You can fool some of the people, some of the time has been the
sales strategy of the TMO for decades.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote:
http://oaks.nvg.org/tm-buddhism.html
Vaj meltdown in 3... 2... 1
LOL. This is an old TM scam, nothing new here, keep moving.
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 shukra69@... wrote:
http://oaks.nvg.org/tm-buddhism.html
Vaj meltdown in 3...
Not every buddhist would agree that it is a scam, of course...
L.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
LOL. This is an old TM scam, nothing new here, keep moving.
Sent from my iPad
On Dec 5, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... wrote:
This article is a sales job, not a real analysis of the similarities and
dissimilarities.
There are different styles of Buddhist meditation, from Mahayana
shamata-style of outright concentration practice to effortless breath
awareness meditations. One stream goes from Satipattana Vipassana to
Teachers come and go but the eternal is.
Inside they are doing the right thing as a group, to facilitate the spiritual
practice and protect that.
not to
mention the strong daily practice which all agree is vital
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
From:
That is interesting that there are model codes of ethic out there instituted by
other groups.
Has the MUM community adopted and published a code of ethics yet? The
TM-Rajas?
The Board has also been in contact with organizations, which can provide
experienced, objective, professional
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
Teachers come and go but the eternal is.
This I agree with.
Inside they are doing the right thing as a group, to
facilitate the spiritual practice and protect that.
This I don't. It sounds kinda paranoid to me.
What is
On Feb 22, 2011, at 6:04 AM, Buck wrote:
Teachers come and go but the eternal is.
Unless of course, the eternal disappears at the next pralaya...then
it is not...
That is interesting that there are model codes of ethic out there
instituted by other groups.
Has the MUM community
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
Teachers come and go but the eternal is.
This I agree with.
Inside they are doing the right thing as a group, to
facilitate the spiritual
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@ wrote:
snip
not to mention the strong daily practice which all
agree is vital
Simply not true. Just another example of someone
who has heard primarily the TM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Jul 21, 2010, at 5:06 PM, John wrote:
An acharya on the internet said that Srila Prabhupada of ISKCON, at his
death bed, admitted he lied to his disciples about the ease of bhakti yoga.
It's actually harder than
On Jul 21, 2010, at 9:18 PM, Peter wrote:
Vaj, what would be a good book or two to introduce oneself to
Dzogchen?
I often recommend The Crystal and the Way of Light: Sutra, Tantra and
Dzogchen and people seem to find it helpful. Actually before that
book was written there really
Thank you much. Does the book include a demon I. D. Checkist?
Peter
On Jul 22, 2010, at 6:56 AM, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:
On Jul 21, 2010, at 9:18 PM, Peter wrote:
Vaj, what would be a good book or two to introduce oneself to Dzogchen?
I often recommend The
On Jul 22, 2010, at 7:27 AM, Peter L Sutphen wrote:
Thank you much. Does the book include a demon I. D. Checkist?
No but it does discuss Machig Lapdron briefly, who wrote the text
Demons...
Does the book include a demon I. D. Checkist?
Vaj:
No but it does discuss Machig Lapdron briefly, who wrote
the text Demons...
2. You'll also see lot's of COMPLICATION: esoteric, complicated-
sounding knowledge, reference to many sects and texts and
teachers, book learning galore...
On Jul 22, 2010, at 9:07 AM, WillyTex wrote:
Does the book include a demon I. D. Checkist?
Vaj:
No but it does discuss Machig Lapdron briefly, who wrote
the text Demons...
2. You'll also see lot's of COMPLICATION: esoteric, complicated-
sounding knowledge, reference to many sects and
No but it does discuss Machig Lapdron briefly, who wrote
the text Demons...
Vaj:
If you are interested in complication, I'd just recommend
looking over some of his old posts (on this list) where he
describes the teaching of Transcendental Meditation, ad
nauseum!
Well, reading
On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:49 AM, WillyTex wrote:
Vaj:
If you are interested in complication, I'd just recommend
looking over some of his old posts (on this list) where he
describes the teaching of Transcendental Meditation, ad
nauseum!
Well, reading Goodman's posts is a lot simpler than
Peter,
The Crystal the Way of Light is a good book but its value may depend
upon your familiarity with Buddhism.
However, once you understand this book, if still interested, you can
turn to Quintessential Dzogchen: Confusion Dawns as Wisdom, translated
by Eric Pema Kunsang.
If you want a taste
How can that be? You clearly have realized yourself within Brahman and Brahman
within you. And Vaj clearly has realized himself within Brahman and Brahman
within him. So if Vaj is mixed up, you must be mixed up -- yet how can Brahman
be mixed up?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
On Jul 22, 2010, at 11:49 AM, WillyTex wrote:
Well, I don't think you need to do any such thing, so that's just
another straw man you've made.
Just because someone lashes out at others and makes wild claims about
Good question! I'm still trying to figure out who the person is asking all the
questions: i.e. if person a is only an illusion observed by person b
(likewise an illusion), then c and so on, one of the infinitude of persons
down the road could be the true Solipsist: possibly John Malkovich or
On Jul 21, 2010, at 5:06 PM, John wrote:
An acharya on the internet said that Srila Prabhupada of ISKCON, at his death
bed, admitted he lied to his disciples about the ease of bhakti yoga. It's
actually harder than just chanting the mahamantra.
This same acharya also stated that the
Which one, Buddha or the Krishna guy? ;-) How 'bout those lies, though! I'm
cleaning out my spiritual library as we speak!
--- On Wed, 7/21/10, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:
From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha !
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
On Jul 21, 2010, at 5:20 PM, Peter wrote:
Which one, Buddha or the Krishna guy? ;-) How 'bout those lies, though! I'm
cleaning out my spiritual library as we speak!
I gotta say Prabhupada always creeped me out, despite my love for Hari Krishna
movement food.
I see it no more special than the movement of thought...
Uh, oh! Vaj got mixed up again.
The great demon of ignorant and discursive thought causes
one to sink in the ocean of samsara. But when freed from
this discursive thought, there is the indescribable state,
beyond conceptual mind.
On Jul 21, 2010, at 6:48 PM, WillyTex wrote:
I see it no more special than the movement of thought...
Uh, oh! Vaj got mixed up again.
The great demon of ignorant and discursive thought causes
one to sink in the ocean of samsara. But when freed from
this discursive thought, there is
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradh...@... wrote:
escapism shtick is *not* working for a lot of people.
From my POV this is a tendency fostered in many spiritual movements. You just
happen to live in one where TM is prevalent. But unless the technique
includes antidotes
Hawkins...right...the applied kinesiology guy. Energygrid website says this
about him:
As you can imagine, by presenting himself as a scientist able to objectively
and absolutely test and calibrate truth by pushing down on another person's
arm, Hawkins is one of the most controversial
there's a flaw in your reasoning pertaining to the following statement:
One goes for the highest first, rather than sticking around for the lowest
first.
First, in TM what one goes for is dictacted mainly by the current state of
one's consciousness including embedded physilogical stress (and
Vaj, what would be a good book or two to introduce oneself to Dzogchen?
--- On Wed, 7/21/10, Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net wrote:
From: Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha !
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 7:32 PM
On Jul 21, 2010, at 8:18 PM, Peter wrote:
Vaj, what would be a good book or two to introduce oneself to Dzogchen?
Dzogchen For Dummies.
Sal
Jim Flanegin writes snipped:
Since you see this as myth, why not see it personally, as each of us
facing our own Arjuna and Krishna? Facing our Duryodhana, king of
the demons, on our battlefield of Kurukshetra? As another
possibility, that is the way I interpret the dialogue between Arjuna
and
--- In
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Jim Flanegin writes snipped:
Since you see this as myth, why not see it personally, as each of us
facing our own Arjuna and Krishna? Facing our Duryodhana, king of
the demons, on our
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Compare and contrast to the three guys I mentioned, who
stood for trying to find a NEW solution to the age-old
problems that confront the residents of planet Earth.
These guys all stood for looking at the world as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
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big snip
Recruit
them from kids who grew up on the myths created by
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
big snip
Recruit
them from kids who grew up on the myths created by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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big snip
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snip
What I had in mind when I wrote my earlier rant about
the myth-formers of our age was that the thing that
connected these three guys was that they THOUGHT
OUT OF THE BOX.
Whereas most of the human beings of
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new.morning wrote:
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big snip
Recruit
them from kids who grew up on
The story I've read is that Buddha died of food poisoning after eating
cooked pork that had spoiled.
Buddha was in the knowledge business. I believe the official cause of
death was a trick in gnosis.
lurk
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snip to
B. Alan Wallace may be the American Buddhist most committed to
finding connections between Buddhism and science. An ex-Buddhist
monk who went on to get a doctorate in religious studies at
Stanford, he once
A few excerpts from the interview:
Science is as much about method as anything. The scientific method
posits hypotheses and theories that can be tested. Is that something
Buddhism does as well?
Not in the same way. I wouldn't want to overplay the case that
Buddhism has always been a science,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Buddha rebelled against his tradition and the brahmin order, only
later to realise he was wrong. The first of many mistakes and
inferior approach to knowledge:
Prince Siddhartha who deserted his wife when she
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Buddha rebelled against his tradition and the brahmin order, only
later to realise he was wrong. The first of many mistakes and inferior
approach to knowledge:
Prince Siddhartha who deserted his wife when she was
Lol, hit him with a broom.
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wrote:
Considering she was a Jewish mom, I bet she smacked him
good for that one!
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Jesus has similar stories of his
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Buddha rebelled against his tradition and the brahmin order,
only
later to realise he was wrong. The first of many mistakes and
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Buddha rebelled against his tradition and the
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wrote:
Buddha rebelled against his tradition and the brahmin order, only
later to realise he was wrong. The first of many mistakes and
inferior
approach to knowledge:
Prince Siddhartha who deserted his wife when she
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
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Buddha rebelled against his tradition and the brahmin order,
only
later to realise he was wrong. The first of many mistakes and
Jesus has similar stories of his relationship with God; and his
other relationships...
He told his Mother, that she was not his mother;
Rather as he became 'Soul-Realized';
The perception became;
That he was purely from Heaven;
And perhaps, all of us at some point;
Have to give up all of the
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Jesus has similar stories of his relationship with God; and his
other relationships...
He told his Mother, that she was not his mother;
Rather as he became 'Soul-Realized';
The perception became;
That he was
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Considering she was a Jewish mom, I bet she smacked him
good for that one!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jesus has similar stories of his relationship with God; and his
other relationships...
He told his Mother, that she was not his mother;
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jesus has similar stories of his relationship with God; and his
other relationships...
He told his Mother, that she was not his mother;
Rather as he became 'Soul-Realized';
The perception became;
That he was
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The secret of health for both mind and body is not to mourn for the
past, worry about the future, or anticipate troubles but to live in
the
present moment wisely and earnestly.
-Buddha
We can create our past and
Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Believe nothing.
No matter where you read it,
Or who said it,
Even if I have said it,
Unless it agrees with your own reason
And your own common sense.
~ Buddha
6th century bce Indian mystic and
Life is suffering - The Buddha
Only for those who suffer.
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When a man's senses have come to peace, like a horses well broken
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Buddha Quote
# 2
The Buddha:""He whose inflowing thoughts are dried up,
who is unattach
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wrote: To think that one is only what they are born into is
fatalistic and inhuman. To think that Jesus the Jew shaped his
philosophy and love for all of humankind merely on the tenets of his fathers
was like saying
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To think that one is only what they are born into is fatalistic
and inhuman. To think that Jesus the Jew shaped his philosophy
and
love
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On Mar 12, 2005, at 3:24 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
On Mar 12, 2005, at 8:45 AM, off_world_beings wrote:
and that ayurved and sthapatyaved
and the six systems of Indian philosphy are a part of what is
generally termed a Vedic tradition.
First off, I hope you realize that there are several groupings of the
Six Darshanas.
You are aware
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 12, 2005, at 8:45 AM, off_world_beings wrote:
and that ayurved and sthapatyaved
and the six systems of Indian philosphy are a part of what is
generally termed a Vedic tradition.
First off, I hope you
I'd tend to agree with the Manimekhalai (a Dravidian work) which
(if
you feel a need to attribute a prior movement to the Dharma) states
that Buddhism is derived from Jainism. It also gives, from the
pre-Vedic perspective, where these six darshanas come from. ALL of
the
six prophets of these
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On Mar 11, 2005, at 11:58 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
I'm afraid not Vaj. It just isn't so. You are talking about an 8th
century manuscript.
Writing is a phenomenon of the Kali yuga. Some lines, still to this
day,
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Do you know the meaning of the word
On Mar 12, 2005, at 10:42 AM, peterklutz wrote:
I do remember symbols being used, though. Herioglyphic like.
Language will be all para and pashyanti.
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On Mar 12, 2005, at 10:42 AM, peterklutz wrote:
I do remember symbols being used, though. Herioglyphic like.
Language will be all para and pashyanti.
I could do with a translation..
Para?
Pashyanti?
To
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I can now see why Satygua would be Heaven on Earth: women
will no longer talk.
Wow... heterosexist *and* misogynistic! I can't say as it comes as
any surprise.
Alex
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vaacaa (speech). Well, paraa might be 'transcendental,
unmanifest (speech)'
Whoa. This 'vacaa' has to be the root or
On Mar 12, 2005, at 3:24 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
Whoa. This 'vacaa' has to be the root or related to 'vaccum', since
Latin has so much other Sanskrit in it, and Latin always seems to
add a 'um' or 'us' on the end.
Is this a Sanskrit word? 'Vaacaa'?
In the Latin languages the Sanskrit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 12, 2005, at 3:24 PM, off_world_beings wrote:
Whoa. This 'vacaa' has to be the root or related to 'vaccum', since
Latin has so much other Sanskrit in it, and Latin always seems to
add a 'um' or 'us' on the end.
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