Actually that phrasing is ambiguous when it comes to something that's only
speculative. It can mean either that you don't believe it exists, or that if it
did exist, you'd be opposed to it. In the case of the death penalty, we know it
exists, so "I don't believe in it" can only mean "I'm opposed
Agreed, his bons-mottlement did not precisely cover such an eventuality.
Thanks, I am happy to not be here again!
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Yes, the first part. I doubt he had coming back by choice post-ignorance in
mind, though. Or at least it wasn't implied by that qu
There's no distinction. "I don't believe in it" in this context is just the
same as saying "I don't believe in the death penalty" even as people are
sentenced to death.
And it's just the same as the Buddhist monks protesting reincarnation in the
cartoon.
L
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Yes, the first part. I doubt he had coming back by choice post-ignorance in
mind, though. Or at least it wasn't implied by that quip.
Welcome back, by the way.
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This stuff is confusing - I meant that someone who is ignorant [of his basic
nature
This stuff is confusing - I meant that someone who is ignorant [of his basic
nature] will continue, by necessity, to reincarnate, after which the ignorance
is dispelled, incarnation may possibly continue to be an option. Is that what
you meant??
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is that so?
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I have heard he said it many different ways. Maharishi was repetitive; he had
basically the same message for over 50 years. As he said to one teacher
'Haven't you noticed I say the same thing over and over again?'
The subject of r
I think by "ignorant" he meant not enlightened, not "off the wheel." One of his
better bons mots.
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Makes sense - the process is not uniquely human, just that we can apprehend
it, and become aware of it, during our time as humans. So there must come
Makes sense - the process is not uniquely human, just that we can apprehend it,
and become aware of it, during our time as humans. So there must come a time
when it is no longer *necessary* to continue to come back here, or anywhere
else, though quite possibly a choice remains, even then, to tak
In case anybody was confused, I was not suggesting that "Reincarnation is for
the ignorant" was the only way he said it.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
I have heard he said it many different ways.
(snip)
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Just to be picky,
On 5/8/2014 3:26 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:
The subject of reincarnation I find intriguing because, from a
spiritual point of view, exactly what does reincarnation mean?
>
Maybe reincarnation means the soul or spirit of a person at death,
taking on the body of another, and being reincarna
There certainly seems to be something of us, existing beyond the body, and
whatever that is, it doesn't care a whole lot about who we are, this time, or
any other time, around. As important as we seem to ourselves, now, we are
clearly disposable, in the service of that which is not. It is our
c
On 5/8/2014 1:22 PM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
Try to find a justification for dedicating your life to the pursuit of
enlightenment is life is *not* suffering. :-)
>
It's not all about you, Barry.
The Buddha's First Noble Truth is the truth of suffering. At first this
seems to be something anyone wo
On 5/8/2014 1:12 PM, lengli...@cox.net wrote:
> "Reincarnation? I don't believe in it" -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
>
"Just as in the physical body of the embodied being is the process of
childhood, youth, old age; similarly in the transmigration from one body
to another the wise are never deluded." -
I have heard he said it many different ways. Maharishi was repetitive; he had
basically the same message for over 50 years. As he said to one teacher
'Haven't you noticed I say the same thing over and over again?'
The subject of reincarnation I find intriguing because, from a spiritual point
Just to be picky, "I don't believe in it" can mean either "I don't believe it
exists" or "I'm opposed to it." If you're opposed to abortion, you might well
say, "I don't believe in abortion."
Anyway, what I heard that he said was "Reincarnation is for the ignorant,"
which is better than eithe
If you're going to quote the Rish, at least do it correctly. The exact quote
is, "Reincarnation? We are opposed to it."
>From my side, I laughed at this in spite of the fact that I've always assumed
>that "Reformed Buddhists" would be the ones marching around in front of
>monasteries carrying p
From: TurquoiseBee
To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com"
Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists
If you're going to quote the Rish, at least do it correctly. The exact quote
is, "Reincarnation? We are opposed to it
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reformed Buddhists
"Reincarnation? I don't believe in it" -Maharishi Mahesh Yogi
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