[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Weasel shite
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > I find your stuff engaging. OK, so let's assume you have convinced > > everyone on this board that Mahesh is a bag of weasel shite. We all > > agree. He is the scum of the earth. > > > > Now what? What are you going to do tomorrow? > > I don't know what gerbal's up to, but I'm going to > spend the day walking around Amsterdam. I'm pretty > certain that if there is a Museum of Weasel Shite > anywhere in the world, it's here, so I'll check > to see if there's a Maharishi pavilion. :-) > > I also wanted to say that I agree wholeheartedly > with your comments on this thread. Well said. > Thanks- and enjoy Amsterdam, especially the Museum of Weasel Shite! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Weasel shite
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I find your stuff engaging. OK, so let's assume you have convinced > everyone on this board that Mahesh is a bag of weasel shite. We all > agree. He is the scum of the earth. > > Now what? What are you going to do tomorrow? I don't know what gerbal's up to, but I'm going to spend the day walking around Amsterdam. I'm pretty certain that if there is a Museum of Weasel Shite anywhere in the world, it's here, so I'll check to see if there's a Maharishi pavilion. :-) I also wanted to say that I agree wholeheartedly with your comments on this thread. Well said. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Weasel shite
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > wrote: > > > > > I find your stuff engaging. OK, so let's assume you have convinced > > everyone on this board that Mahesh is a bag of weasel shite. We all > > agree. He is the scum of the earth. > > > > Now what? What are you going to do tomorrow? > > > > Have a nice day, today and tomorrow, your way, the way it makes you > happy. Some people are happy letting the bag of weasel shite make > their decisions. Others are happy making their own. Nothing's > changed. The way it looks to me is that you are far more under the control of Mahesh's thinking than am I. Still glued in place, and struggling to get free. > Funny story: when I was first part of International Staff in > Mallorca, Mahesh asked me to do something. Another person (who was > constantly arsing me about) took me aside and said not to do it > because "you know what Maharishi's like". > > No, actually, I didn't. But I didn't know what to do, so did nothing. > When Mahesh asked why I hadn't done what he asked I told him. > > He got the damnedest look on his face. It had, apparently, never > occurred to him that people behind his back were any different from > the grovelling sods at his feet! -- Funny how that individual never > arsed me about after that, too. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Weasel shite
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > > > > on 6/29/06 8:19 PM, off_world_beings at > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> You got nothing. You are just looking for attention, but > will > > > find > > > > >> something to make up that is totally unsubstantiated and > > > > >> uncorroborated by the majority of the people who were there. > > > > >> > > > > > That's true, because the majority who were there weren't in > > the > > > > > inner circle. But those in the inner circle soon learned > that > > > MMY's > > > > > private and public personae were quite different. This > > discovery > > > > > caused the majority of MMY's personal secretaries to leave > the > > > > > movement. __ > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for mentioning this, I think this important point is > not > > > > mentioned enough. As word leaked out about his duplicity it > > helped > > > > many make the decision to split. Once you knew the public side > > was > > > > essentially a front, a facade and M. a poseur, you realize > it's > > > just > > > > a business. That's one of the reasons many believe the words > > > > attributed to Guru Dev when he said 'go to the mountains to > > > meditate, > > > > you'll never be good at anything other than making money.' > (huge > > > > paraphrase). > > > > > > > > "Mahesh has been interested in power, in the accumulation of > > > money, > > > > and in women. Why does he live in a big house, own > helicopters, > > > > airplanes, etc? Why does he spend most of his time involved > in > > > > business planning about making money? It is because he is a > > > > businessman who has the desires that other wealthy businessmen > > > have. > > > > His spiritual front is his scam and the way he gets people to > > give > > > > him their time and money." --Earl Kaplan > > > > > > > > > > Accurate insight, in my opinion, Vaj. Ture believers will always > > find > > > reason to believe. Like the Jehovah's witnesses, the more you > point > > > out the flaws, the stronger they grow. When they come to the > door I > > > just tell them I'm a reformed Druid (we're allowed to worship > > > bushes). It's an old M*A*S*H* joke. > > > > > > If you read Joyce Collin-Smith's "Call No Man Master" or Paul > > Mason's > > > Mahesh bio, it's perfectly clear that Mahesh is all about > getting > > > himself worshiped. > > > > > > I clearly remember the newspaper stories: he declared his > mission > > > failure and said he was retiring to the Himilayas. It was AFTER > > this > > > that the Beatles made him famous and he bounced back with a > > vengence. > > > First he created huge numbers of TM teachers (Mallorca, Fiuggi, > La > > > Antilla). He coo'd like a dove cooing to another dove from whom > it > > > hoped to borrow money (favourite Wodehouse quote) at the peak of > > > rounding: no one can love you like I can, you are going to save > the > > > whole world, get the money from an auntie, from your gran > > > > > > Mahesh could be a real slime ball. And, what did he teach on his > 6- > > > month courses? Stuff borrowed and re-worked from Yogananda. I > did > > all > > > of the Yogananda lessons after TM, out of curiosity more than > > > anything else. There were the A of E techniques and contacts > > provided > > > more information about the 6-month courses. Just more of > Yogananda > > > with his lovely spin on it. > > > > > > And the 'sidhi' stuff? He had no idea, literally. He sent people > to > > > India to find yogis; he got obscure translations, he fiddled and > > > fumed and tinkered ... but what worked best was the cooing, > get 'em > > > all spacey and suggest hopping. How simple; he'd always known > that > > > people would pay him for what they expected to get in return and > > that > > > he never had any trouble convincing them it was their fault it > > wasn't > > > working. He still bitches about too much negativity, too little > > work > > > being done by others, yadda, yadda. > > > > > > The "real" Mahesh is someone completely imaginary for most > people. > > > But, yes, there was an inner circle, people who liked what they > > were > > > doing and since he was providing room and board and the company > of > > > each other, they didn't particularly object doing it for him. > But > > > behind closed doors, the discussion shifted to how completely > > bonkers > > > Mahesh was. Stripped of his public facade, he was a nutter with > > > charm, intelligence, charisma by the sackful. But his ideas and > his > > > wast wedic wevelations were total kaka. It was all
[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Weasel shite
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > > > > on 6/29/06 8:19 PM, off_world_beings at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> You got nothing. You are just looking for attention, but will > > find > > > >> something to make up that is totally unsubstantiated and > > > >> uncorroborated by the majority of the people who were there. > > > >> > > > > That's true, because the majority who were there weren't in > the > > > > inner circle. But those in the inner circle soon learned that > > MMY's > > > > private and public personae were quite different. This > discovery > > > > caused the majority of MMY's personal secretaries to leave the > > > > movement. __ > > > > > > > > > Thanks for mentioning this, I think this important point is not > > > mentioned enough. As word leaked out about his duplicity it > helped > > > many make the decision to split. Once you knew the public side > was > > > essentially a front, a facade and M. a poseur, you realize it's > > just > > > a business. That's one of the reasons many believe the words > > > attributed to Guru Dev when he said 'go to the mountains to > > meditate, > > > you'll never be good at anything other than making money.' (huge > > > paraphrase). > > > > > > "Mahesh has been interested in power, in the accumulation of > > money, > > > and in women. Why does he live in a big house, own helicopters, > > > airplanes, etc? Why does he spend most of his time involved in > > > business planning about making money? It is because he is a > > > businessman who has the desires that other wealthy businessmen > > have. > > > His spiritual front is his scam and the way he gets people to > give > > > him their time and money." --Earl Kaplan > > > > > > > Accurate insight, in my opinion, Vaj. Ture believers will always > find > > reason to believe. Like the Jehovah's witnesses, the more you point > > out the flaws, the stronger they grow. When they come to the door I > > just tell them I'm a reformed Druid (we're allowed to worship > > bushes). It's an old M*A*S*H* joke. > > > > If you read Joyce Collin-Smith's "Call No Man Master" or Paul > Mason's > > Mahesh bio, it's perfectly clear that Mahesh is all about getting > > himself worshiped. > > > > I clearly remember the newspaper stories: he declared his mission > > failure and said he was retiring to the Himilayas. It was AFTER > this > > that the Beatles made him famous and he bounced back with a > vengence. > > First he created huge numbers of TM teachers (Mallorca, Fiuggi, La > > Antilla). He coo'd like a dove cooing to another dove from whom it > > hoped to borrow money (favourite Wodehouse quote) at the peak of > > rounding: no one can love you like I can, you are going to save the > > whole world, get the money from an auntie, from your gran > > > > Mahesh could be a real slime ball. And, what did he teach on his 6- > > month courses? Stuff borrowed and re-worked from Yogananda. I did > all > > of the Yogananda lessons after TM, out of curiosity more than > > anything else. There were the A of E techniques and contacts > provided > > more information about the 6-month courses. Just more of Yogananda > > with his lovely spin on it. > > > > And the 'sidhi' stuff? He had no idea, literally. He sent people to > > India to find yogis; he got obscure translations, he fiddled and > > fumed and tinkered ... but what worked best was the cooing, get 'em > > all spacey and suggest hopping. How simple; he'd always known that > > people would pay him for what they expected to get in return and > that > > he never had any trouble convincing them it was their fault it > wasn't > > working. He still bitches about too much negativity, too little > work > > being done by others, yadda, yadda. > > > > The "real" Mahesh is someone completely imaginary for most people. > > But, yes, there was an inner circle, people who liked what they > were > > doing and since he was providing room and board and the company of > > each other, they didn't particularly object doing it for him. But > > behind closed doors, the discussion shifted to how completely > bonkers > > Mahesh was. Stripped of his public facade, he was a nutter with > > charm, intelligence, charisma by the sackful. But his ideas and his > > wast wedic wevelations were total kaka. It was all provided by > people > > who not only told him what the Sanskrit said, but what the Sanskrit > > meant. > > > > It was all spindoctoring based on the work of others. > > > > Do nothing, accomplish everything took on a whole new meaning. YOU > > bust your balls and I take all the credit. > > > > Well, that was fun. Nothing ne