[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Weasel shite

2006-06-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> wrote:
> >
> > I find your stuff engaging. OK, so let's assume you have 
convinced 
> > everyone on this board that Mahesh is a bag of weasel shite. We 
all 
> > agree. He is the scum of the earth. 
> > 
> > Now what? What are you going to do tomorrow?
> 
> I don't know what gerbal's up to, but I'm going to 
> spend the day walking around Amsterdam. I'm pretty
> certain that if there is a Museum of Weasel Shite
> anywhere in the world, it's here, so I'll check 
> to see if there's a Maharishi pavilion. :-)
> 
> I also wanted to say that I agree wholeheartedly
> with your comments on this thread. Well said.
>
Thanks- and enjoy Amsterdam, especially the Museum of Weasel Shite!





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[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Weasel shite

2006-06-30 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I find your stuff engaging. OK, so let's assume you have convinced 
> everyone on this board that Mahesh is a bag of weasel shite. We all 
> agree. He is the scum of the earth. 
> 
> Now what? What are you going to do tomorrow?

I don't know what gerbal's up to, but I'm going to 
spend the day walking around Amsterdam. I'm pretty
certain that if there is a Museum of Weasel Shite
anywhere in the world, it's here, so I'll check 
to see if there's a Maharishi pavilion. :-)

I also wanted to say that I agree wholeheartedly
with your comments on this thread. Well said.







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[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Weasel shite

2006-06-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"  
> wrote:
> > >
> > I find your stuff engaging. OK, so let's assume you have 
convinced 
> > everyone on this board that Mahesh is a bag of weasel shite. We 
all 
> > agree. He is the scum of the earth. 
> > 
> > Now what? What are you going to do tomorrow?
> >
> 
> Have a nice day, today and tomorrow, your way, the way it makes 
you 
> happy. Some people are happy letting the bag of weasel shite make 
> their decisions. Others are happy making their own. Nothing's 
> changed. 

The way it looks to me is that you are far more under the control of 
Mahesh's thinking than am I. Still glued in place, and struggling to 
get free.
 
> Funny story: when I was first part of International Staff in 
> Mallorca, Mahesh asked me to do something. Another person (who was 
> constantly arsing me about) took me aside and said not to do it 
> because "you know what Maharishi's like". 
> 
> No, actually, I didn't. But I didn't know what to do, so did 
nothing. 
> When Mahesh asked why I hadn't done what he asked I told him.
> 
> He got the damnedest look on his face. It had, apparently, never 
> occurred to him that people behind his back were any different 
from 
> the grovelling sods at his feet! -- Funny how that individual 
never 
> arsed me about after that, too.
>







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[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Weasel shite

2006-06-30 Thread gerbal88
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > on 6/29/06 8:19 PM, off_world_beings at 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> You got nothing. You are just looking for attention, but 
> will 
> > > find
> > > > >> something to make up that is totally unsubstantiated and
> > > > >> uncorroborated by the majority of the people who were 
there.
> > > > >>
> > > > > That's true, because the majority who were there weren't in 
> > the  
> > > > > inner circle. But those in the inner circle soon learned 
> that 
> > > MMY's  
> > > > > private and public personae were quite different. This 
> > discovery  
> > > > > caused the majority of MMY's personal secretaries to leave 
> the  
> > > > > movement. __
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for mentioning this, I think this important point is 
> not  
> > > > mentioned enough. As word leaked out about his duplicity it 
> > helped  
> > > > many make the decision to split. Once you knew the public 
side 
> > was  
> > > > essentially a front, a facade and M. a poseur, you realize 
> it's 
> > > just  
> > > > a business. That's one of the reasons many believe the words  
> > > > attributed to Guru Dev when he said 'go to the mountains to 
> > > meditate,  
> > > > you'll never be good at anything other than making money.' 
> (huge  
> > > > paraphrase).
> > > > 
> > > > "Mahesh has been interested in power, in the accumulation of 
> > > money,  
> > > > and in women. Why does he live in a big house, own 
> helicopters,  
> > > > airplanes, etc? Why does he spend most of his time involved 
> in  
> > > > business planning about making money? It is because he is a  
> > > > businessman who has the desires that other wealthy 
businessmen 
> > > have.  
> > > > His spiritual front is his scam and the way he gets people to 
> > give  
> > > > him their time and money." --Earl Kaplan
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Accurate insight, in my opinion, Vaj. Ture believers will 
always 
> > find 
> > > reason to believe. Like the Jehovah's witnesses, the more you 
> point 
> > > out the flaws, the stronger they grow. When they come to the 
> door I 
> > > just tell them I'm a reformed Druid (we're allowed to worship 
> > > bushes). It's an old M*A*S*H* joke.
> > > 
> > > If you read Joyce Collin-Smith's "Call No Man Master" or Paul 
> > Mason's 
> > > Mahesh bio, it's perfectly clear that Mahesh is all about 
> getting 
> > > himself worshiped. 
> > > 
> > > I clearly remember the newspaper stories: he declared his 
> mission 
> > > failure and said he was retiring to the Himilayas. It was AFTER 
> > this 
> > > that the Beatles made him famous and he bounced back with a 
> > vengence. 
> > > First he created huge numbers of TM teachers (Mallorca, Fiuggi, 
> La 
> > > Antilla). He coo'd like a dove cooing to another dove from whom 
> it 
> > > hoped to borrow money (favourite Wodehouse quote) at the peak 
of 
> > > rounding: no one can love you like I can, you are going to save 
> the 
> > > whole world, get the money from an auntie, from your gran 
> > > 
> > > Mahesh could be a real slime ball. And, what did he teach on 
his 
> 6-
> > > month courses? Stuff borrowed and re-worked from Yogananda. I 
> did 
> > all 
> > > of the Yogananda lessons after TM, out of curiosity more than 
> > > anything else. There were the A of E techniques and contacts 
> > provided 
> > > more information about the 6-month courses. Just more of 
> Yogananda 
> > > with his lovely spin on it.
> > > 
> > > And the 'sidhi' stuff? He had no idea, literally. He sent 
people 
> to 
> > > India to find yogis; he got obscure translations, he fiddled 
and 
> > > fumed and tinkered ... but what worked best was the cooing, 
> get 'em 
> > > all spacey and suggest hopping. How simple; he'd always known 
> that 
> > > people would pay him for what they expected to get in return 
and 
> > that 
> > > he never had any trouble convincing them it was their fault it 
> > wasn't 
> > > working. He still bitches about too much negativity, too little 
> > work 
> > > being done by others, yadda, yadda.
> > > 
> > > The "real" Mahesh is someone completely imaginary for most 
> people. 
> > > But, yes, there was an inner circle, people who liked what they 
> > were 
> > > doing and since he was providing room and board and the company 
> of 
> > > each other, they didn't particularly object doing it for him. 
> But 
> > > behind closed doors, the discussion shifted to how completely 
> > bonkers 
> > > Mahesh was. Stripped of his public facade, he was a nutter with 
> > > charm, intelligence, charisma by the sackful. But his ideas and 
> his 
> > > wast wedic wevelations were total kaka. It was all

[FairfieldLife] [was Re: Maharishi's name] Weasel shite

2006-06-30 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gerbal88  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > On Jun 29, 2006, at 9:37 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > > 
> > > > on 6/29/06 8:19 PM, off_world_beings at 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> You got nothing. You are just looking for attention, but 
will 
> > find
> > > >> something to make up that is totally unsubstantiated and
> > > >> uncorroborated by the majority of the people who were there.
> > > >>
> > > > That's true, because the majority who were there weren't in 
> the  
> > > > inner circle. But those in the inner circle soon learned 
that 
> > MMY's  
> > > > private and public personae were quite different. This 
> discovery  
> > > > caused the majority of MMY's personal secretaries to leave 
the  
> > > > movement. __
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks for mentioning this, I think this important point is 
not  
> > > mentioned enough. As word leaked out about his duplicity it 
> helped  
> > > many make the decision to split. Once you knew the public side 
> was  
> > > essentially a front, a facade and M. a poseur, you realize 
it's 
> > just  
> > > a business. That's one of the reasons many believe the words  
> > > attributed to Guru Dev when he said 'go to the mountains to 
> > meditate,  
> > > you'll never be good at anything other than making money.' 
(huge  
> > > paraphrase).
> > > 
> > > "Mahesh has been interested in power, in the accumulation of 
> > money,  
> > > and in women. Why does he live in a big house, own 
helicopters,  
> > > airplanes, etc? Why does he spend most of his time involved 
in  
> > > business planning about making money? It is because he is a  
> > > businessman who has the desires that other wealthy businessmen 
> > have.  
> > > His spiritual front is his scam and the way he gets people to 
> give  
> > > him their time and money." --Earl Kaplan
> > >
> > 
> > Accurate insight, in my opinion, Vaj. Ture believers will always 
> find 
> > reason to believe. Like the Jehovah's witnesses, the more you 
point 
> > out the flaws, the stronger they grow. When they come to the 
door I 
> > just tell them I'm a reformed Druid (we're allowed to worship 
> > bushes). It's an old M*A*S*H* joke.
> > 
> > If you read Joyce Collin-Smith's "Call No Man Master" or Paul 
> Mason's 
> > Mahesh bio, it's perfectly clear that Mahesh is all about 
getting 
> > himself worshiped. 
> > 
> > I clearly remember the newspaper stories: he declared his 
mission 
> > failure and said he was retiring to the Himilayas. It was AFTER 
> this 
> > that the Beatles made him famous and he bounced back with a 
> vengence. 
> > First he created huge numbers of TM teachers (Mallorca, Fiuggi, 
La 
> > Antilla). He coo'd like a dove cooing to another dove from whom 
it 
> > hoped to borrow money (favourite Wodehouse quote) at the peak of 
> > rounding: no one can love you like I can, you are going to save 
the 
> > whole world, get the money from an auntie, from your gran 
> > 
> > Mahesh could be a real slime ball. And, what did he teach on his 
6-
> > month courses? Stuff borrowed and re-worked from Yogananda. I 
did 
> all 
> > of the Yogananda lessons after TM, out of curiosity more than 
> > anything else. There were the A of E techniques and contacts 
> provided 
> > more information about the 6-month courses. Just more of 
Yogananda 
> > with his lovely spin on it.
> > 
> > And the 'sidhi' stuff? He had no idea, literally. He sent people 
to 
> > India to find yogis; he got obscure translations, he fiddled and 
> > fumed and tinkered ... but what worked best was the cooing, 
get 'em 
> > all spacey and suggest hopping. How simple; he'd always known 
that 
> > people would pay him for what they expected to get in return and 
> that 
> > he never had any trouble convincing them it was their fault it 
> wasn't 
> > working. He still bitches about too much negativity, too little 
> work 
> > being done by others, yadda, yadda.
> > 
> > The "real" Mahesh is someone completely imaginary for most 
people. 
> > But, yes, there was an inner circle, people who liked what they 
> were 
> > doing and since he was providing room and board and the company 
of 
> > each other, they didn't particularly object doing it for him. 
But 
> > behind closed doors, the discussion shifted to how completely 
> bonkers 
> > Mahesh was. Stripped of his public facade, he was a nutter with 
> > charm, intelligence, charisma by the sackful. But his ideas and 
his 
> > wast wedic wevelations were total kaka. It was all provided by 
> people 
> > who not only told him what the Sanskrit said, but what the 
Sanskrit 
> > meant. 
> > 
> > It was all spindoctoring based on the work of others.
> > 
> > Do nothing, accomplish everything took on a whole new meaning. 
YOU 
> > bust your balls and I take all the credit.
> > 
> > Well, that was fun. Nothing ne