Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: Thoughts on what is going on in Israel

2006-07-17 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/17/06 10:47:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  The attitude reflected in this article is what isdestroying Israel. You 
  can not fight madmen bybecoming mad yourself. 
  

However M did say once, "if your neighbor can not be quiet out 
of love and respect, let him be quiet out of fear." First symposium on the 
Science of Creative Intelligence, June 1971 , Amherst Massachusetts.   

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Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: Thoughts on what is going on in Israel

2006-07-17 Thread Peter
The attitude reflected in this article is what is
destroying Israel. You can not fight madmen by
becoming mad yourself. 

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>  
> In a message dated 7/17/06 6:30:37 A.M. Central
> Daylight Time,  
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
>  
>  
> From a  friend of mine. I haven’t even read the
> whole thing, but I thought it 
> might be  of interest here:
> 
> 
> I am sharing this with you. My sister, now
> vacationing  in the US, sent it to 
> me from friends of hers in Israel.  These are such 
> horrific times in Israel 
> again made so much worse by the sympathy of much of 
> the world for a people 
> who wants to destroy the Jews of Israel and take 
> possession of the land, with 
> no intention or desire to negotiate a meaningful 
> peace.   Steve
> 
> EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE   
> 
> NEWSLETTER - ISRAEL AT WAR  JULY 2006   
> 
> 
> Dear  Friends,
> 
> Unfortunately Israel is at war. 
> Fortunately  Israel is at war.
> Better to face up to the enemy(Iran) now rather than
>  later, when he is 
> stronger.
> This is the opening of War against Iran, who  are
> using their proxies ˆ the 
> Hizbullah in Lebanon and the Hamas in the  Palestine
> Authority ˆ to „soften up‰
>  Israel for the kill.
> There is no doubt  at all that Iran intends to make
> good on its threats to 
> destroy Israel  and every Jew living there. There is
> no doubt at all that Iran 
> will never  be stopped by words alone, nor by
> economic sanctions if they ever 
> take  place. And Iran‚s aim is to lead Islam to
> world domination. Israel is the 
>  beginning.
> For far too long we in Israel have been trying to
> find  favor with the 
> Western Powers ˆ particularly in Europe ˆ by
> practicing the  policy of „Restraint‰ 
> against Islamic/Palestinian Terror. To the extent of
>  supporting ŒUnilateral 
> Disengagement‚, first from Lebanon in 2000 and
> then  from Gaza last year. 
> I confess that I was one of those supporting this 
> policy of Israel leaving 
> without any agreements ˆ not because I believed it 
> would solve the 4,000 year 
> war between the Arabs and the Jews, but because I 
> was tired and weary of the 
> loss of life amongst our soldiers and thought that 
> this policy may give us a 
> 5 to 10 year pause in the battle, enable us to rest 
> for a while before the Œ
> next round‚. 
> The policy backfired as the Jihadi  terrorists and
> their supporters in the 
> Arab/Islam world saw our unilateral  withdrawal from
> Lebanon and Gaza as an 
> Islamic victory over Israel ˆ the  „brave
> Palestinians‰ who proudly excel in 
> murdering innocent civilians, forced  Israel to
> retreat with our tail between our 
> legs. 
> (A majority of Moslems  worldwide support the
> Palestinians, not in forming a 
> Palestinian State  alongside Israel but in forming a
> Palestinian State instead 
> of Israel ˆ  i.e. destroying Israel).
> The terrorists became ever bolder, and in the last 
> week actually entered the 
> borders of Israel from Gaza and from Lebanon, and on
>  our own Œundisputed‚ 
> soil ambushed our soldiers guarding the borders ˆ
> killing  8 soldiers and 
> kidnapping another 3.
> This was the wake-up call, even for  the most
> left-wing liberals in Israel. 
> Such actions are the same as a  declaration of War,
> and demand a very severe 
> reaction from Israel. The policy  of Restraint (
> turning the other cheek, Œ
> understanding Œpoor Arafat or Abu  Mazen ˆand now
> the Œmoderate wing‚ of the 
> Hamas in the Gaza Strip) has led  only to more and
> more severe attacks against us, 
> and has become  bankrupt.
> The Arabs and Iranian Jihadists believe that Israel
> is tired of  fighting 
> (correct), and can be forced by terrorism into
> making more and more  political 
> concessions without getting anything in return from
> the Palestinians  (this was 
> correct until this week). The Arabs believe that the
> Israelis can be  defeated 
> on the battlefield by changing the rules of the game
> ˆ whereby the  
> Palestinians „are not able‰ to control their
> many terrorist organizations  operating 
> against Israel, whereas the Israelis are expected
> NOT to react in  kind, not to 
> use our strengths and definitely not to indulge in
> what the  French and 
> Europeans love to call „disproportionate
> warfare‰ to Palestinian  Terror.
> In other words, when the Palestinians killed 20
> Israelis in a  homicide 
> bombing at a restaurant in 2003, Israel was expected
> to react  „responsibly‰ and 
> not attack the terrorists because they were holed up
> in a  mosque or a hospital 
> or even in their family homes. If we did attack
> them, and  any civilians were 
> killed in the cross-fire, this was considered to be
> „a  disproportionate 
> reaction‰ by Israel ˆ and worthy of the same
> degree of  condemnation as the 
> actions of the Palestinians who actually set out to
> kill  innocent Israeli 
> civilians.
> Well, I hope our leaders have finally com

Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: Thoughts on what is going on in Israel

2006-07-17 Thread MDixon6569






In a message dated 7/17/06 6:30:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  
  
  From a 
  friend of mine. I haven’t even read the whole thing, but I thought it might be 
  of interest here:
  I am sharing this with you. My sister, now vacationing 
  in the US, sent it to me from friends of hers in Israel.  These are such 
  horrific times in Israel again made so much worse by the sympathy of much of 
  the world for a people who wants to destroy the Jews of Israel and take 
  possession of the land, with no intention or desire to negotiate a meaningful 
  peace.   SteveEMAIL CORRESPONDENCE 
  
  
  NEWSLETTER - ISRAEL AT WAR  JULY 2006 
  
  Dear 
  Friends, Unfortunately Israel is at war. Fortunately 
  Israel is at war.Better to face up to the enemy(Iran) now rather than 
  later, when he is stronger.This is the opening of War against Iran, who 
  are using their proxies ˆ the Hizbullah in Lebanon and the Hamas in the 
  Palestine Authority ˆ to „soften up‰ Israel for the kill.There is no doubt 
  at all that Iran intends to make good on its threats to destroy Israel 
  and every Jew living there. There is no doubt at all that Iran will never 
  be stopped by words alone, nor by economic sanctions if they ever take 
  place. And Iran‚s aim is to lead Islam to world domination. Israel is the 
  beginning.For far too long we in Israel have been trying to find 
  favor with the Western Powers ˆ particularly in Europe ˆ by practicing the 
  policy of „Restraint‰ against Islamic/Palestinian Terror. To the extent of 
  supporting ŒUnilateral Disengagement‚, first from Lebanon in 2000 and then 
  from Gaza last year. I confess that I was one of those supporting this 
  policy of Israel leaving without any agreements ˆ not because I believed it 
  would solve the 4,000 year war between the Arabs and the Jews, but because I 
  was tired and weary of the loss of life amongst our soldiers and thought that 
  this policy may give us a 5 to 10 year pause in the battle, enable us to rest 
  for a while before the Œnext round‚. The policy backfired as the Jihadi 
  terrorists and their supporters in the Arab/Islam world saw our unilateral 
  withdrawal from Lebanon and Gaza as an Islamic victory over Israel ˆ the 
  „brave Palestinians‰ who proudly excel in murdering innocent civilians, forced 
  Israel to retreat with our tail between our legs. (A majority of Moslems 
  worldwide support the Palestinians, not in forming a Palestinian State 
  alongside Israel but in forming a Palestinian State instead of Israel ˆ 
  i.e. destroying Israel).The terrorists became ever bolder, and in the last 
  week actually entered the borders of Israel from Gaza and from Lebanon, and on 
  our own Œundisputed‚ soil ambushed our soldiers guarding the borders ˆ killing 
  8 soldiers and kidnapping another 3.This was the wake-up call, even for 
  the most left-wing liberals in Israel. Such actions are the same as a 
  declaration of War, and demand a very severe reaction from Israel. The policy 
  of Restraint ( turning the other cheek, Œunderstanding Œpoor Arafat or Abu 
  Mazen ˆand now the Œmoderate wing‚ of the Hamas in the Gaza Strip) has led 
  only to more and more severe attacks against us, and has become 
  bankrupt.The Arabs and Iranian Jihadists believe that Israel is tired of 
  fighting (correct), and can be forced by terrorism into making more and more 
  political concessions without getting anything in return from the Palestinians 
  (this was correct until this week). The Arabs believe that the Israelis can be 
  defeated on the battlefield by changing the rules of the game ˆ whereby the 
  Palestinians „are not able‰ to control their many terrorist organizations 
  operating against Israel, whereas the Israelis are expected NOT to react in 
  kind, not to use our strengths and definitely not to indulge in what the 
  French and Europeans love to call „disproportionate warfare‰ to Palestinian 
  Terror.In other words, when the Palestinians killed 20 Israelis in a 
  homicide bombing at a restaurant in 2003, Israel was expected to react 
  „responsibly‰ and not attack the terrorists because they were holed up in a 
  mosque or a hospital or even in their family homes. If we did attack them, and 
  any civilians were killed in the cross-fire, this was considered to be „a 
  disproportionate reaction‰ by Israel ˆ and worthy of the same degree of 
  condemnation as the actions of the Palestinians who actually set out to kill 
  innocent Israeli civilians.Well, I hope our leaders have finally come to 
  their senses. We need to go after the terrorists and their leaders, no matter 
  who they are and where they are. We need to kill them. Before they 
  kill us. And if there is any collateral damage caused by Israeli pursuit 
  of the terrorists, well that‚s just too bad. Palestinians should know not to 
  associate with terrorists, not to allow them freedom of movement ˆ and most of 
  all NOT to vote 

[FairfieldLife] FW: Thoughts on what is going on in Israel

2006-07-17 Thread Rick Archer
Title: FW: Thoughts on what is going on in Israel





From a friend of mine. I haven’t even read the whole thing, but I thought it might be of interest here:




I am sharing this with you. My sister, now vacationing in the US, sent it to me from friends of hers in Israel.  These are such horrific times in Israel again made so much worse by the sympathy of much of the world for a people who wants to destroy the Jews of Israel and take possession of the land, with no intention or desire to negotiate a meaningful peace.   Steve
 
EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE


 


NEWSLETTER - ISRAEL AT WAR  JULY 2006


 
 
Dear Friends,
 
Unfortunately Israel is at war. 
Fortunately Israel is at war.
Better to face up to the enemy(Iran) now rather than later, when he is stronger.
This is the opening of War against Iran, who are using their proxies ˆ the Hizbullah in Lebanon and the Hamas in the Palestine Authority ˆ to „soften up‰ Israel for the kill.
There is no doubt at all that Iran intends to make good on its threats to destroy Israel and every Jew living there. There is no doubt at all that Iran will never be stopped by words alone, nor by economic sanctions if they ever take place. And Iran‚s aim is to lead Islam to world domination. Israel is the beginning.
For far too long we in Israel have been trying to find favor with the Western Powers ˆ particularly in Europe ˆ by practicing the policy of „Restraint‰ against Islamic/Palestinian Terror. To the extent of supporting ŒUnilateral Disengagement‚, first from Lebanon in 2000 and then from Gaza last year. 
I confess that I was one of those supporting this policy of Israel leaving without any agreements ˆ not because I believed it would solve the 4,000 year war between the Arabs and the Jews, but because I was tired and weary of the loss of life amongst our soldiers and thought that this policy may give us a 5 to 10 year pause in the battle, enable us to rest for a while before the Œnext round‚. 
The policy backfired as the Jihadi terrorists and their supporters in the Arab/Islam world saw our unilateral withdrawal from Lebanon and Gaza as an Islamic victory over Israel ˆ the „brave Palestinians‰ who proudly excel in murdering innocent civilians, forced Israel to retreat with our tail between our legs. 
(A majority of Moslems worldwide support the Palestinians, not in forming a Palestinian State alongside Israel but in forming a Palestinian State instead of Israel ˆ i.e. destroying Israel).
The terrorists became ever bolder, and in the last week actually entered the borders of Israel from Gaza and from Lebanon, and on our own Œundisputed‚ soil ambushed our soldiers guarding the borders ˆ killing 8 soldiers and kidnapping another 3.
This was the wake-up call, even for the most left-wing liberals in Israel. Such actions are the same as a declaration of War, and demand a very severe reaction from Israel. The policy of Restraint ( turning the other cheek, Œunderstanding Œpoor Arafat or Abu Mazen ˆand now the Œmoderate wing‚ of the Hamas in the Gaza Strip) has led only to more and more severe attacks against us, and has become bankrupt.
The Arabs and Iranian Jihadists believe that Israel is tired of fighting (correct), and can be forced by terrorism into making more and more political concessions without getting anything in return from the Palestinians (this was correct until this week). The Arabs believe that the Israelis can be defeated on the battlefield by changing the rules of the game ˆ whereby the Palestinians „are not able‰ to control their many terrorist organizations operating against Israel, whereas the Israelis are expected NOT to react in kind, not to use our strengths and definitely not to indulge in what the French and Europeans love to call „disproportionate warfare‰ to Palestinian Terror.
In other words, when the Palestinians killed 20 Israelis in a homicide bombing at a restaurant in 2003, Israel was expected to react „responsibly‰ and not attack the terrorists because they were holed up in a mosque or a hospital or even in their family homes. If we did attack them, and any civilians were killed in the cross-fire, this was considered to be „a disproportionate reaction‰ by Israel ˆ and worthy of the same degree of condemnation as the actions of the Palestinians who actually set out to kill innocent Israeli civilians.
Well, I hope our leaders have finally come to their senses. We need to go after the terrorists and their leaders, no matter who they are and where they are. 
We need to kill them. 
Before they kill us. 
And if there is any collateral damage caused by Israeli pursuit of the terrorists, well that‚s just too bad. Palestinians should know not to associate with terrorists, not to allow them freedom of movement ˆ and most of all NOT to vote terrorists into power, as the Palestinian population did with Hamas.
When 70% of the Palestinians support the deliberate policy of killing innocent civilians in Israel, then that population should not complain when some ar