[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tehran Craves Nuclear Bombs'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iran supports Hezbollah. Iran cannot be trusted. The leader of Iran is a replica of Adolf Hitler. His stated goal is to wipe out the United States and Israel. We have the power to stop him quickly and painlessly. We have ICBM's, and powerful Hydrogen Bombs, Of 10-20 megaton capacity. We can vaporize Iran in short time. We invested enormous amounts of money; Developing these weapons; When else would they be used; If not in this current situation with the madness; Of Iran. I am assuming that you are commenting on the likelihood of this happening, not advocating it. With that in mind, my friends from Los Alamos tell me that the United States is now officially building more *new* nuclear weapons each month (small tactical nukes this time) than they did at the height of the Cold War. This does not bode well for the planet, IMO. Can Maharishi call for a WPA in Santa Fe? It's a nice place...lots of spas and Ayurvedic clinics... I saw anti-nuclear activist Dr. Helen Caldicott speak in Santa Fe once, and she told an interesting story about one of her trips to the Soviet Union, and her perspective on how the Cold War ended. She showed her presentation on the medical effects of nuclear war (I've seen it...it's horrifying, and something that really hasn't been seen by most people on the planet *including* most of the world leaders since the 1950s) at a symposium at which Gorbachev was present. According to her, after the presentation he wept openly onstage (Gorbachev has children), held her hand and promised to do what he could to end the madness. Shortly afterwards the first real advances in nuclear disarmament began to take place. Just a comment with regard to your belief that one person can make a difference. Nukes are not an option. Anyone who has seen what they do to the human beings who survive the initial blast would know that. Unless they don't consider these people human beings, of course... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tehran Craves Nuclear Bombs'
Whoa. The frightening thing about this post is that the logic and rationale is, sadly, right. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iran supports Hezbollah. Iran cannot be trusted. The leader of Iran is a replica of Adolf Hitler. His stated goal is to wipe out the United States and Israel. We have the power to stop him quickly and painlessly. We have ICBM's, and powerful Hydrogen Bombs, Of 10-20 megaton capacity. We can vaporize Iran in short time. We invested enormous amounts of money; Developing these weapons; When else would they be used; If not in this current situation with the madness; Of Iran. R.Gimbel Seattle,WA. - Groups are talking. Weacute;re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tehran Craves Nuclear Bombs'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@ wrote: Iran supports Hezbollah. Iran cannot be trusted. The leader of Iran is a replica of Adolf Hitler. His stated goal is to wipe out the United States and Israel. We have the power to stop him quickly and painlessly. We have ICBM's, and powerful Hydrogen Bombs, Of 10-20 megaton capacity. We can vaporize Iran in short time. We invested enormous amounts of money; Developing these weapons; When else would they be used; If not in this current situation with the madness; Of Iran. I am assuming that you are commenting on the likelihood of this happening, not advocating it. Uh, I don't think so, Barry. I think we have to take Robert's words as they appear here: he is advocating the use of America's nuclear weapons against Iran...now. Perhaps you made the assumption you do above (that Robert was commenting on the likelihood of this happening, not advocating that it actually be done) because you had just finished writing that conciliatory post to Robert. Or you can't imagine anyone on this forum (or anywhere for that matter!) advocating the use of nuclear weapons. May I suggest that you NOT make the assumption you did above and now respond to what Robert has actually written...that he does, in fact, advocate the dropping of nuclear weapons on his fellow human beings. With that in mind, my friends from Los Alamos tell me that the United States is now officially building more *new* nuclear weapons each month (small tactical nukes this time) than they did at the height of the Cold War. This does not bode well for the planet, IMO. Can Maharishi call for a WPA in Santa Fe? It's a nice place...lots of spas and Ayurvedic clinics... I saw anti-nuclear activist Dr. Helen Caldicott speak in Santa Fe once, and she told an interesting story about one of her trips to the Soviet Union, and her perspective on how the Cold War ended. She showed her presentation on the medical effects of nuclear war (I've seen it...it's horrifying, and something that really hasn't been seen by most people on the planet *including* most of the world leaders since the 1950s) at a symposium at which Gorbachev was present. According to her, after the presentation he wept openly onstage (Gorbachev has children), held her hand and promised to do what he could to end the madness. Shortly afterwards the first real advances in nuclear disarmament began to take place. Just a comment with regard to your belief that one person can make a difference. Nukes are not an option. Anyone who has seen what they do to the human beings who survive the initial blast would know that. Unless they don't consider these people human beings, of course... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tehran Craves Nuclear Bombs'
In a message dated 7/30/06 4:34:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nukes are not an option. Anyone who has seen what they do to the human beings who survive the initial blast would know that. Unless they don't consider these people human beings, of course... Nobody in their right mind wants to use nukes. The key words,"in their right mind". Do we let a government that threatens the world have them? What will it take to keep them from getting them? Would the Axis powers have used nukes during WW2 had they had them first? __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tehran Craves Nuclear Bombs'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/30/06 4:34:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nukes are not an option. Anyone who has seen what they do to the human beings who survive the initial blast would know that. Unless they don't consider these people human beings, of course... Nobody in their right mind wants to use nukes. The key words, in their right mind. Do we let a government that threatens the world have them? Too late. It already owns most of them. It dropped the only two such weapons used so far against humans. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Tehran Craves Nuclear Bombs'
In a message dated 7/30/06 9:16:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whoa.The frightening thing about this post is that the logic and rationale is, sadly, right.--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel babajii_99@... wrote: Iran supports Hezbollah. Iran cannot be trusted. The leader of Iran is a replica of Adolf Hitler. His stated goal is to wipe out the United States and Israel. We have the power to stop him quickly and painlessly. We have ICBM's, and powerful Hydrogen Bombs, Of 10-20 megaton capacity. We can vaporize Iran in short time. We invested enormous amounts of money; Developing these weapons; When else would they be used; If not in this current situation with the madness; Of Iran. R.Gimbel Seattle,WA. I don't think the idea will be to use 10 to 20 megaton bombs on Iran and wipe out hundreds of thousands of civilians. If it boils down to a military solution the idea is to use very small tactical nukes on bunker busters that will penetrated deep into the nuclear labs under ground before exploding, minimizing casualtiesabove the surface while wiping out any infrastructure underground. Fortunately, these bunkers seem to be far from major populated areas. Of course if it doesn't have the complete desired results, Iranian leaders could probably buy a nuke from North Korea, if they haven't already, and seek revenge. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
