[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > So I have concluded from this that there is nothing for me to > > > > do 'out there', such as a yagya, > > > > > > A most interesting phrase, Jim, and one that reminds me of a > Durga > > > Puja I attended here in Fairfield a few months back -- the first > > > such since leaving the TMO, IIRC, several decades ago. > > > For some time during the ceremony, I wondered why I was there, > as > > > absolutely nothing was going on out there (though the ritual was > > > interesting enough). Then I thought to look in here, inside the > > > physical body, and was awestruck at the complexity of the tiny > > > impulses being awakened within the form with every name chanted. > > It > > > culminated with my physical form becoming that of Durga. Then > for > > a > > > number of days I got as sick as I have ever been since > awakening. > > > *LOL* All in all, a truly enjoyable and enlivening and purifying > > > experience! :-) > > > > That is amazing, and somewhat incomprehensible, though I shall > watch > > for similar the next time I find myself in such a situation. > > Yes, I didn't describe that too clearly -- it should have read, "at > the complexity of impulses being awakened within the form with all > the names chanted." Each name awakened or lit up a specific simple > impulse within the form, the whole forming a complex pattern ... > Right- I understand that. I just haven't had the experience of tracking each awakening of the specific simple impulse, and correlating that to forming a complex pattern. That is what I want to watch for. My experience is more along the lines of exclaiming, and I quote, "Wow, that was really cool! Wow! That felt great- like a shower or something!". Ah, the profundities of awakening... > :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > So I have concluded from this that there is nothing for me to > > > do 'out there', such as a yagya, > > > > A most interesting phrase, Jim, and one that reminds me of a Durga > > Puja I attended here in Fairfield a few months back -- the first > > such since leaving the TMO, IIRC, several decades ago. > > For some time during the ceremony, I wondered why I was there, as > > absolutely nothing was going on out there (though the ritual was > > interesting enough). Then I thought to look in here, inside the > > physical body, and was awestruck at the complexity of the tiny > > impulses being awakened within the form with every name chanted. > It > > culminated with my physical form becoming that of Durga. Then for > a > > number of days I got as sick as I have ever been since awakening. > > *LOL* All in all, a truly enjoyable and enlivening and purifying > > experience! :-) > > That is amazing, and somewhat incomprehensible, though I shall watch > for similar the next time I find myself in such a situation. Yes, I didn't describe that too clearly -- it should have read, "at the complexity of impulses being awakened within the form with all the names chanted." Each name awakened or lit up a specific simple impulse within the form, the whole forming a complex pattern ... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > So I have concluded from this that there is nothing for me to > > do 'out there', such as a yagya, > > A most interesting phrase, Jim, and one that reminds me of a Durga > Puja I attended here in Fairfield a few months back -- the first > such since leaving the TMO, IIRC, several decades ago. > For some time during the ceremony, I wondered why I was there, as > absolutely nothing was going on out there (though the ritual was > interesting enough). Then I thought to look in here, inside the > physical body, and was awestruck at the complexity of the tiny > impulses being awakened within the form with every name chanted. It > culminated with my physical form becoming that of Durga. Then for a > number of days I got as sick as I have ever been since awakening. > *LOL* All in all, a truly enjoyable and enlivening and purifying > experience! :-) That is amazing, and somewhat incomprehensible, though I shall watch for similar the next time I find myself in such a situation. Perhaps I should have mentioned that I always experience huge purifications and lightness whenever listening to vedic rituals, such as the installation of the Rajas awhile back. In fact I was able to capture the chanting as mp3 files and burn them on CDs. However, rather than seeking the vedic rituals out, I am a pretty curious fellow (in both senses of the phrase I suppose...) in that I find myself led to all sorts of interesting situations, including vedic chanting when appropriate. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
Try the Uranus yagya. ;-) On 10/3/05 10:24 AM, "Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Only if jewish negroes perform it. > > --- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I wonder if that yagya can cure someone of being a >> racist scumbag. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
Only if jewish negroes perform it. --- anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wonder if that yagya can cure someone of being a > racist scumbag. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make > Yahoo! your home page > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> PS I too had absolutely no desires outstanding "out there" -- except > a slight curiosity as to the Pua :-) PPS Well, I still don't know about the Pua -- but I meant the Puja. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > So I have concluded from this that there is nothing for me to > > do 'out there', such as a yagya, > > A most interesting phrase, Jim, and one that reminds me of a Durga > Puja I attended here in Fairfield a few months back -- the first > such since leaving the TMO, IIRC, several decades ago. > For some time during the ceremony, I wondered why I was there, as > absolutely nothing was going on out there (though the ritual was > interesting enough). Then I thought to look in here, inside the > physical body, and was awestruck at the complexity of the tiny > impulses being awakened within the form with every name chanted. It > culminated with my physical form becoming that of Durga. Then for a > number of days I got as sick as I have ever been since awakening. > *LOL* All in all, a truly enjoyable and enlivening and purifying > experience! :-) PS I too had absolutely no desires outstanding "out there" -- except a slight curiosity as to the Pua :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So I have concluded from this that there is nothing for me to > do 'out there', such as a yagya, A most interesting phrase, Jim, and one that reminds me of a Durga Puja I attended here in Fairfield a few months back -- the first such since leaving the TMO, IIRC, several decades ago. For some time during the ceremony, I wondered why I was there, as absolutely nothing was going on out there (though the ritual was interesting enough). Then I thought to look in here, inside the physical body, and was awestruck at the complexity of the tiny impulses being awakened within the form with every name chanted. It culminated with my physical form becoming that of Durga. Then for a number of days I got as sick as I have ever been since awakening. *LOL* All in all, a truly enjoyable and enlivening and purifying experience! :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
I wonder if that yagya can cure someone of being a racist scumbag. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Brahman" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > jim flanegin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ...given Mother Divine as the Universal Supreme Being, > > > > > > all of these things are available to us at any time... > > > > > > > > > > > > ...I don't participate in such ceremonies yet live > > > > > > a life of total support from Mother Divine... > > > > > > > > > > while this is, no doubt, your true experience, still > > > > > it is good to participate, also. you may just need > > > > > to learn more about it ... here is a neat website > > > > > about MD and Navaratri: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.divyajivan.org/navaratri > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Thanks for the link. I enjoyed reading about the Goddesses. How > > is > > > > this different though from directly asking for blessings for > > others > > > > and myself at the appropriate time? Would those not also be > > > > considered yagyas? It seems to work in the same way. > > > > > > > > I am not negating these forms of worship, just adding that > > whether > > > > we want to contact Mother Divine directly or do it through > > > > intermediaries, the results are similar. > > > > > > Just out of curiosity, have you done both and > > > compared the effects? > > > > I consistently exceed every expectation I have, have for my whole > > life, so what would be the point of a yagya? For what- I don't have > > any need strong enough for such a performance. Direct devotion is > > better, and more powerful, in my opinion. > > > > Perhaps if my life gets really, really, really, really intolerable > > in the future I will have need of a yagya, but that is purely a > > hypothetical instance. There appears to be a game we all play with > > ourselves, comparing where we are or what we have, and where we want > > to be. I have always been able to bridge such a gap through > > dilligence, focus, devotion, and surrender. > > > > Lately I have noticed that the equation has changed somewhat. The > > gap described above is very brief on the one hand, and on the other, > > the results realized always exceed my expectations. > > > > So I have concluded from this that there is nothing for me to > > do 'out there', such as a yagya, in order to achieve further > > happiness, satisfaction, good health, economic security, social > > integration, familial love, or any other aspect of my life which I > > deem important. > > > > For others it may be different. I have always enjoyed self- reliance. > > I feel that for this life, and the next, it is better to be self- > > reliant. > > Thats all fine. But you didn't answer the question. Not that you are > obligated to. You stated "I am not negating these forms of worship, > just adding that whether we want to contact Mother Divine directly or > do it through intermediaries, the results are similar." How can you > assess if the results are similar if you have not done the same yagyas > that Tom is doing. If on the other hand, you simple meant, "the > descriptions of yagyas sound similar to what I experience" then fine. > But thats a difference from saying the results ARE similar. Yes, right, absolutely. I have no idea at all what the results of the yagyas that Tom is having done feel like, for me, or anyone else. Thanks for the clarification. And I hope for everyone's sake that the yagyas work as described. That would be great! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > So I have concluded from this that there is nothing for me to > > do 'out there', such as a yagya, in order to achieve further > > happiness, satisfaction, good health, economic security, social > > integration, familial love, or any other aspect of my life which I > > deem important. > > Are you positive you're aware of all the aspects > of your life that are important? (Either to you > personally, or in the cosmic scheme of things?) > > > For others it may be different. I have always enjoyed self- reliance. > > I feel that for this life, and the next, it is better to be self- > > reliant. > > Is self-reliance entirely consistent with devotion? > > I'm reminded of the joke about the guy who calls on > God to rescue him from drowning and then waves off > the helicopter that suddenly appears and offers to > haul him up. > > Obviously you don't perceive yourself to be in a > desperate situation from which you need to be saved, > but I wonder whether the same principle might apply. > I could conceive of a scenario in which Tom was > equivalent to the helicopter, sent by Mother Divine > to suggest the possibility of your deriving some > benefit from yagyas that She is aware of but you > aren't. > > (I'm really not promoting yagyas, just probing > your reasoning in rejecting them. No need to > respond if you don't want to.) Yes, I really like the joke about the guy with the helicopter...Maybe I should have said Self reliance, but just didn't want to revisit the whole small s vs. big S thing. I agree that Tom's post prompted my reply, though I wouldn't characterise my not feeling a need to do a yagya as a rejection of them. To use a possibly convoluted analogy, if I am already wearing a hat and someone offers me a cap, I can decline on the basis of my needs already being met, without feeling that I am rejecting the offer of the cap. it just isn't necessary. Not to suggest either that I haven't faced a great many trials in my life. We all have. And that is why yagyas are appropriate for some. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I have concluded from this that there is nothing for me to > do 'out there', such as a yagya, in order to achieve further > happiness, satisfaction, good health, economic security, social > integration, familial love, or any other aspect of my life which I > deem important. Are you positive you're aware of all the aspects of your life that are important? (Either to you personally, or in the cosmic scheme of things?) > For others it may be different. I have always enjoyed self-reliance. > I feel that for this life, and the next, it is better to be self- > reliant. Is self-reliance entirely consistent with devotion? I'm reminded of the joke about the guy who calls on God to rescue him from drowning and then waves off the helicopter that suddenly appears and offers to haul him up. Obviously you don't perceive yourself to be in a desperate situation from which you need to be saved, but I wonder whether the same principle might apply. I could conceive of a scenario in which Tom was equivalent to the helicopter, sent by Mother Divine to suggest the possibility of your deriving some benefit from yagyas that She is aware of but you aren't. (I'm really not promoting yagyas, just probing your reasoning in rejecting them. No need to respond if you don't want to.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Pall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MONTHLY MEMBERS are all included in this Yagna I am not clear on this statement Tom. Does this group have group yagyas? Or do you have "subscribers" who contibute to yours? I had understood from past posts that you felt group yagyas diluted the effect. Has this view / experience changed? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Brahman" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > jim flanegin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ...given Mother Divine as the Universal Supreme Being, > > > > > all of these things are available to us at any time... > > > > > > > > > > ...I don't participate in such ceremonies yet live > > > > > a life of total support from Mother Divine... > > > > > > > > while this is, no doubt, your true experience, still > > > > it is good to participate, also. you may just need > > > > to learn more about it ... here is a neat website > > > > about MD and Navaratri: > > > > > > > > http://www.divyajivan.org/navaratri > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Thanks for the link. I enjoyed reading about the Goddesses. How > is > > > this different though from directly asking for blessings for > others > > > and myself at the appropriate time? Would those not also be > > > considered yagyas? It seems to work in the same way. > > > > > > I am not negating these forms of worship, just adding that > whether > > > we want to contact Mother Divine directly or do it through > > > intermediaries, the results are similar. > > > > Just out of curiosity, have you done both and > > compared the effects? > > I consistently exceed every expectation I have, have for my whole > life, so what would be the point of a yagya? For what- I don't have > any need strong enough for such a performance. Direct devotion is > better, and more powerful, in my opinion. > > Perhaps if my life gets really, really, really, really intolerable > in the future I will have need of a yagya, but that is purely a > hypothetical instance. There appears to be a game we all play with > ourselves, comparing where we are or what we have, and where we want > to be. I have always been able to bridge such a gap through > dilligence, focus, devotion, and surrender. > > Lately I have noticed that the equation has changed somewhat. The > gap described above is very brief on the one hand, and on the other, > the results realized always exceed my expectations. > > So I have concluded from this that there is nothing for me to > do 'out there', such as a yagya, in order to achieve further > happiness, satisfaction, good health, economic security, social > integration, familial love, or any other aspect of my life which I > deem important. > > For others it may be different. I have always enjoyed self-reliance. > I feel that for this life, and the next, it is better to be self- > reliant. Thats all fine. But you didn't answer the question. Not that you are obligated to. You stated "I am not negating these forms of worship, just adding that whether we want to contact Mother Divine directly or do it through intermediaries, the results are similar." How can you assess if the results are similar if you have not done the same yagyas that Tom is doing. If on the other hand, you simple meant, "the descriptions of yagyas sound similar to what I experience" then fine. But thats a difference from saying the results ARE similar. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Brahman" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > jim flanegin wrote: > > > > > > > > ...given Mother Divine as the Universal Supreme Being, > > > > all of these things are available to us at any time... > > > > > > > > ...I don't participate in such ceremonies yet live > > > > a life of total support from Mother Divine... > > > > > > while this is, no doubt, your true experience, still > > > it is good to participate, also. you may just need > > > to learn more about it ... here is a neat website > > > about MD and Navaratri: > > > > > > http://www.divyajivan.org/navaratri > > > > > > -- > > > > Thanks for the link. I enjoyed reading about the Goddesses. How is > > this different though from directly asking for blessings for others > > and myself at the appropriate time? Would those not also be > > considered yagyas? It seems to work in the same way. > > > > I am not negating these forms of worship, just adding that whether > > we want to contact Mother Divine directly or do it through > > intermediaries, the results are similar. > > Just out of curiosity, have you done both and > compared the effects? I consistently exceed every expectation I have, have for my whole life, so what would be the point of a yagya? For what- I don't have any need strong enough for such a performance. Direct devotion is better, and more powerful, in my opinion. Perhaps if my life gets really, really, really, really intolerable in the future I will have need of a yagya, but that is purely a hypothetical instance. There appears to be a game we all play with ourselves, comparing where we are or what we have, and where we want to be. I have always been able to bridge such a gap through dilligence, focus, devotion, and surrender. Lately I have noticed that the equation has changed somewhat. The gap described above is very brief on the one hand, and on the other, the results realized always exceed my expectations. So I have concluded from this that there is nothing for me to do 'out there', such as a yagya, in order to achieve further happiness, satisfaction, good health, economic security, social integration, familial love, or any other aspect of my life which I deem important. For others it may be different. I have always enjoyed self-reliance. I feel that for this life, and the next, it is better to be self- reliant. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Brahman" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > jim flanegin wrote: > > > > > > ...given Mother Divine as the Universal Supreme Being, > > > all of these things are available to us at any time... > > > > > > ...I don't participate in such ceremonies yet live > > > a life of total support from Mother Divine... > > > > while this is, no doubt, your true experience, still > > it is good to participate, also. you may just need > > to learn more about it ... here is a neat website > > about MD and Navaratri: > > > > http://www.divyajivan.org/navaratri > > > > -- > > Thanks for the link. I enjoyed reading about the Goddesses. How is > this different though from directly asking for blessings for others > and myself at the appropriate time? Would those not also be > considered yagyas? It seems to work in the same way. > > I am not negating these forms of worship, just adding that whether > we want to contact Mother Divine directly or do it through > intermediaries, the results are similar. Just out of curiosity, have you done both and compared the effects? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Pall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear friends from around the world, > > > > Mother Divine 9 days (Oct-4-12) > > for wealth, prosperity, health, longevity, knowledge and intelligence. > > By awakening human awareness , 9 days will help all aspects of life... > > the five senses, mind, intellect and ego...Those 9 days Yagnas will > > support prosperity & fulfillment, help increase wealth, support > > spiritual progress, gain knowledge, clear intellect, improvement of > > memory, peace of mind, good for education, improve influence in > > society, increase harmony in married life, help remove big problems, > > help find suitable job, support success in business, fulfillment of > > desires, removal of fears, help remove illness, improvement of health, > > help prevent danger, help peaceful sleep, overall progress, improve > > relationship, remove obstacles, help finding suitable spouse, free > > from obstacles, support in court case, support in better life... > > Wow. It sounds just like TM, without the sitting > with your eyes closed and all. Yep. I'd rather see the 'hidden' list of things that the 9 days of MD *won't* do. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Brahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > jim flanegin wrote: > > > > ...given Mother Divine as the Universal Supreme Being, > > all of these things are available to us at any time... > > > > ...I don't participate in such ceremonies yet live > > a life of total support from Mother Divine... > > while this is, no doubt, your true experience, still > it is good to participate, also. you may just need > to learn more about it ... here is a neat website > about MD and Navaratri: > > http://www.divyajivan.org/navaratri > > -- Thanks for the link. I enjoyed reading about the Goddesses. How is this different though from directly asking for blessings for others and myself at the appropriate time? Would those not also be considered yagyas? It seems to work in the same way. I am not negating these forms of worship, just adding that whether we want to contact Mother Divine directly or do it through intermediaries, the results are similar. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
> jim flanegin wrote: > > ...given Mother Divine as the Universal Supreme Being, > all of these things are available to us at any time... > > ...I don't participate in such ceremonies yet live > a life of total support from Mother Divine... while this is, no doubt, your true experience, still it is good to participate, also. you may just need to learn more about it ... here is a neat website about MD and Navaratri: http://www.divyajivan.org/navaratri -- Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Pall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear friends from around the world, > > Mother Divine 9 days (Oct-4-12) > for wealth, prosperity, health, longevity, knowledge and intelligence. > By awakening human awareness , 9 days will help all aspects of life... > the five senses, mind, intellect and ego...Those 9 days Yagnas will > support prosperity & fulfillment, help increase wealth, support > spiritual progress, gain knowledge, clear intellect, improvement of > memory, peace of mind, good for education, improve influence in > society, increase harmony in married life, help remove big problems, > help find suitable job, support success in business, fulfillment of > desires, removal of fears, help remove illness, improvement of health, > help prevent danger, help peaceful sleep, overall progress, improve > relationship, remove obstacles, help finding suitable spouse, free > from obstacles, support in court case, support in better life... Wow. It sounds just like TM, without the sitting with your eyes closed and all. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 9 Days of Mother Diving Yagna by Choice
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Pall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear friends from around the world, > > Mother Divine 9 days (Oct-4-12) > for wealth, prosperity, health, longevity, knowledge and intelligence. > By awakening human awareness , 9 days will help all aspects of life... > the five senses, mind, intellect and ego...Those 9 days Yagnas will > support prosperity & fulfillment, help increase wealth, support > spiritual progress, gain knowledge, clear intellect, improvement of > memory, peace of mind, good for education, improve influence in > society, increase harmony in married life, help remove big problems, > help find suitable job, support success in business, fulfillment of > desires, removal of fears, help remove illness, improvement of health, > help prevent danger, help peaceful sleep, overall progress, improve > relationship, remove obstacles, help finding suitable spouse, free > from obstacles, support in court case, support in better life... > > MONTHLY MEMBERS are all included in this Yagna Thanks for this Tom. Just a reminder that given Mother Divine as the Universal Supreme Being, all of these things are available to us at any time. Not to make light of your apparent 'boost' through these techniques, but just to recognize that these good fortunes, all of them, are always present, should we choose to receive them. I know this from personal experience becuase I don't participate in such ceremonies yet live a life of total support from Mother Divine. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
