[FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac
The differences between Mac and PC have become less over time, but there still are f few. On the hardware side, it is useful to think of a Mac as a high-end bundled stereo system where all components are made by the same manufacturer. You're not going to get the best possible quality at a given price point, but you can be reasonably confident that at least everything will work out of the box, and in order to get something consistently better at the same price, you have to become an audiophile or consult an audiophile. Individual computer speciality stores may create their own custom bundles, so that is another factoid to throw into the mix. On the GUI side, Apple has lost a bit of ground on the GUI due to consistency issues between Classic Macs and the NeXTOS GUI's combined with marketing issues where Apple (Jobs) decided that it was better for all Apple products to standardize on the same GUI, even if the GUI of a portable touch device may not be the best thing to use with a desktop graphics workstation. PCs, on the other hand, have certainly improved drastically GUI-wise, since the days of Windows 3.0. The Operating System of Mac OS X probably is better overall than the current Windows counterpart, simply due to the longevity of the various Unixes and the fact that at no time it its history did anyone attempt to design a Unix that supported legacy software by sacrificing security. Any issues that Mac OS X has had with backwards compatibility have been due to add-ons outside the kernel (core software) of the OS. Dual-booting a non-Apple machine is always going to be a little but problematic because Apple attempts to thwart using Mac OS X in different ways with each new OS release so upgrading to a new version of Mac OS X can be tricky on a PC. Going the other way is pretty easy since Apple also designed Mac hardware to dual boot Windows and Linux with no problems and has always (mostly) been pretty good about easy updates to new Mac OS versions on its own hardware -if Apple lists your computer as upgradeable to a new OS release, you can be reasonably certain that they have tested it already. That's not often the case with generic PCs made by the hundreds of different companies that call themselves PC manufacturers. Software comparisons between Macs and PCs are all over the place. For games, the PC is hands down a winner. Native games almost always run faster on PCs than Macs; you have more choices of games AND more choices of hardware enhancements to make your computer a super-stud gaming-wise. For other software, it is a mixed bag. PCs have far more options, but quality control, especially for higher end (and extremely low-end) software has always been a bit better on Macs due to the nature of Apple's relationship, both good and bad, with developers. Disclaimer: I have preferred using and programming Macs over PCs for the last 29 years. L --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > > > I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that > > > I'm considering buying a Mac. > > > > salyavin: > > I was looking at a Macbook Pro but decided to go > > with a PC with the same spec but at half the > > price > > > All you have to do is run the Apple OS on your PC > with a dual boot. The guts in a MAC is just about > the same as the guts in a PC, but at half the > price. Go figure. >
[FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: > > > > > > I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that > > > I'm considering buying a Mac. > > > > nablusoss: > > Buying a new laptop with the WIN8 installed was > > a nightmare... > > > Anyone with any smarts is not going to switch > OS on a whim - there's always a learning curve, > Apple or Microsoft. I recently completed two > courses in AutoCAD - would not try this at home > without some instruction! > > You guys probably should take a computer course, > or at least read a manual or two. If all you > want to do is surf the web or post to newsgroups, > you should just get an Android phone - that way > you could use your phone as a computer. LoL! Thanks for the advice :-) Anyway, seem those nitwits at Windows think that ALL new buyers are learning to use their newest programmes for the first time, forgetting about the millions that actually already knows how to moove about in XP or WIN7. That's what happens when you let "mindfullness" run amok in a company I suppose.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac
There is a germ of truth in Rich's rambling. Apple does use Intel chips and graphics chips from a variety of manufacturers such as AMD and nvidia just as most PCs do. A modern Intel based Mac can run Windows or Linux, etc as well as Mac OSX using its Bootcamp capability. When run in that mode the Mac becomes a Windows machine, running Windows at the full capability of the hardware. This has nothing to do with "emulations" such as Parallels, VMware, etc that allow you to run Windows alongside Mac OSX. From: Richard J. Williams To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2013 9:55 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac > > I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that > > I'm considering buying a Mac. > > salyavin: > I was looking at a Macbook Pro but decided to go > with a PC with the same spec but at half the > price > All you have to do is run the Apple OS on your PC with a dual boot. The guts in a MAC is just about the same as the guts in a PC, but at half the price. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac
> > I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that > > I'm considering buying a Mac. > > salyavin: > I was looking at a Macbook Pro but decided to go > with a PC with the same spec but at half the > price > All you have to do is run the Apple OS on your PC with a dual boot. The guts in a MAC is just about the same as the guts in a PC, but at half the price. Go figure.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac
> > I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that > > I'm considering buying a Mac. > > nablusoss: > Buying a new laptop with the WIN8 installed was > a nightmare... > Anyone with any smarts is not going to switch OS on a whim - there's always a learning curve, Apple or Microsoft. I recently completed two courses in AutoCAD - would not try this at home without some instruction! You guys probably should take a computer course, or at least read a manual or two. If all you want to do is surf the web or post to newsgroups, you should just get an Android phone - that way you could use your phone as a computer. LoL!
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac
On 04/05/2013 12:29 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> On 04/05/2013 11:15 AM, card wrote: >>> I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that I'm considering >>> buying a Mac. >>> >>> What do I potentially lose (possibility to use some programs??) if I do buy >>> one?? >>> >>> >> About $1000 for a special logo on a PC. Have you ever tried >> Linux? Try one of the live CD/DVDs or make a persistent pendrive >> version. Of course it will run much faster and boot in a blink on >> a HD compared to Windoze. >> > Alternative POV: About $1000 for the power of *nix in a form that's actually > usable by average joe, non-neckbeards. > > Ya sayin' our geeky card is an average Joe? :-D
[FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card" wrote: > > > I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that I'm considering > buying a Mac. > > What do I potentially lose (possibility to use some programs??) if I do buy > one?? > I was looking at a Macbook Pro but decided to go with a PC with the same spec but at half the price. Now a mate of mine has forked out for the Mac I wish I had too. If you can justify the expense it's all just so much nicer in every way.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 04/05/2013 11:15 AM, card wrote: > > I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that I'm considering > > buying a Mac. > > > > What do I potentially lose (possibility to use some programs??) if I do buy > > one?? > > > > > > About $1000 for a special logo on a PC. Have you ever tried > Linux? Try one of the live CD/DVDs or make a persistent pendrive > version. Of course it will run much faster and boot in a blink on > a HD compared to Windoze. > Alternative POV: About $1000 for the power of *nix in a form that's actually usable by average joe, non-neckbeards.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Considering a Mac
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "card" wrote: > > > I'm so fed up with Windoze, especially 8, that I'm considering > buying a Mac. > > What do I potentially lose (possibility to use some programs??) if I do buy > one?? Buying a new laptop with the WIN8 installed was a nightmare, couldn't find even the simples thingy at the computer anymore. They seem to think they are so smart they could re-invent the wheel by putting it on the roof. Gave it back and ordered one with WIN7. Isn't Windows the company that teach their employees free woo-woo Buddhist meditation ? That would explain alot...