subject:"\[FairfieldLife\] Re\: Crash"

Great ads, though I didn't care for the can to the head or the overall abuse 
shown in the Pepsi ad you mentioned either. The others were pretty funny!

As neither of us are more than casual football fans, when I asked my daughter 
somewhat facetiously who she was rooting for, she replied that the Steelers 
quarterback has been accused of sexual assault six times and that several 
players on Green Bay have had similar accusations, so should she root for the 
rapist or the rapists? After reading up on the quarterback for the Steelers I 
was pretty grossed out - the guy is a real dirt bag. It won't diminish our 
enjoyment of the game tomorrow, though I am glad she brought it up.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:

 The Packers meet the Steelers in Dallas on Sunday. Who are you rooting for? 
 I'm rooting the commercials. The thirty-second Doritos or Pepsi Max 
 commercial contest finalists: 
 
 http://tinyurl.com/6arcg5s
 
 Thumbs up: Pug Attack
 Thumbs down: Black woman hits white woman in the head with a can of Pepsi Max.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash the Super Bowl

2011-02-05 Thread WillyTex



whynotnow7:  
 ...the Steelers quarterback has been accused of sexual assault 
 six times and that several players on Green Bay have had similar 
 accusations, so should she root for the rapist or the rapists?

If the Steelers win the Super Bowl, it will be Roethlisberger's 
third Super Bowl win, tying him with Troy Aikman and Tom Brady for 
the second-most Super Bowl wins by a quarterback. Terry Bradshaw 
and Joe Montana each won four Super Bowls.

Read more:

'The Hangover: Roethlisberger'
Sports Illustrated, May 10, 2010
http://tinyurl.com/2aoygwr

He had twice been accused of sexual assault, although neither 
allegation resulted in charges being filed...

Kansas City Star, February 4, 2011
http://tinyurl.com/6kunn7r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash the Super Bowl

Yes, he has been accused six times, with no charges filed, though the charges 
were taken seriously enough for the NFL to suspend him for six weeks. He 
grosses me out, though you may think his ability to handle a football cancels 
out his repulsive behavior off field.:-)

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:

 
 
 whynotnow7:  
  ...the Steelers quarterback has been accused of sexual assault 
  six times and that several players on Green Bay have had similar 
  accusations, so should she root for the rapist or the rapists?
 
 If the Steelers win the Super Bowl, it will be Roethlisberger's 
 third Super Bowl win, tying him with Troy Aikman and Tom Brady for 
 the second-most Super Bowl wins by a quarterback. Terry Bradshaw 
 and Joe Montana each won four Super Bowls.
 
 Read more:
 
 'The Hangover: Roethlisberger'
 Sports Illustrated, May 10, 2010
 http://tinyurl.com/2aoygwr
 
 He had twice been accused of sexual assault, although neither 
 allegation resulted in charges being filed...
 
 Kansas City Star, February 4, 2011
 http://tinyurl.com/6kunn7r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash the Super Bowl

2011-02-05 Thread azgrey

Steeler fans are piggish-looking, sadomasochistic
automatons whose only known forms of relaxation are
swilling watery beer from vast tubs and singing the 
idiotically repetitive verses of their porcine
folk tunes-both of which amusements probably hark
back to a prehuman state. Steeler fans have
never been successfully Christianized. Their language
lacks any semblance of civilized speech.
Their usual diet consists almost wholly of old cabbage 
and sections of animal intestines filled
with blood and gore. Their lardy women have long, 
tangled masses of sticky hair under their arms, and 
the men shave the sides of their heads.

On the other hand, they do have bad qualities... 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@... wrote:

 
 
 whynotnow7:  
  ...the Steelers quarterback has been accused of sexual assault 
  six times and that several players on Green Bay have had similar 
  accusations, so should she root for the rapist or the rapists?
 
 If the Steelers win the Super Bowl, it will be Roethlisberger's 
 third Super Bowl win, tying him with Troy Aikman and Tom Brady for 
 the second-most Super Bowl wins by a quarterback. Terry Bradshaw 
 and Joe Montana each won four Super Bowls.
 
 Read more:
 
 'The Hangover: Roethlisberger'
 Sports Illustrated, May 10, 2010
 http://tinyurl.com/2aoygwr
 
 He had twice been accused of sexual assault, although neither 
 allegation resulted in charges being filed...
 
 Kansas City Star, February 4, 2011
 http://tinyurl.com/6kunn7r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash the Super Bowl

2011-02-05 Thread WillyTex

azgrey:
 On the other hand, they do have bad qualities...

So, you're a Steelers fan - I thought so.

  http://www.upi.com/enl-win/2ce7a7f8bc590a25caa6bc1ab717bdbe/

 Steeler fans are piggish-looking... sadomasochistic
 automatons whose only known forms of relaxation are
 swilling watery beer from vast tubs and singing the
 idiotically repetitive verses of their porcine
 folk tunes-both of which amusements probably hark
 back to a prehuman state. Steeler fans have
 never been successfully Christianized. Their language
 lacks any semblance of civilized speech.
 Their usual diet consists almost wholly of old cabbage
 and sections of animal intestines filled
 with blood and gore. Their lardy women have long,
 tangled masses of sticky hair under their arms, and
 the men shave the sides of their heads.

 On the other hand, they do have bad qualities...

  If the Steelers win the Super Bowl, it will be Roethlisberger's
  third Super Bowl win, tying him with Troy Aikman and Tom Brady for
  the second-most Super Bowl wins by a quarterback. Terry Bradshaw
  and Joe Montana each won four Super Bowls.
 
  Read more:
 
  'The Hangover: Roethlisberger'
  Sports Illustrated, May 10, 2010
  http://tinyurl.com/2aoygwr
 
  He had twice been accused of sexual assault, although neither
  allegation resulted in charges being filed...
 
  Kansas City Star, February 4, 2011
  http://tinyurl.com/6kunn7r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash the Super Bowl



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 Never watch the thing not even for the ads. Rather watch color bars
 than sports. Is it supposed to be our national duty to watch it or
 something?

I went to a hockey game last night.  Three 20 minute periods of all out
exertion.  No one line can stay out for more than a few minutes before
they have to sub.  The Super Bowl, or any football for that matter is
approximately 12.45 minutes of actual action.   The rest of the time,
the clock is just running.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Crash the Super Bowl

2011-02-05 Thread Vaj


On Feb 5, 2011, at 5:04 PM, seventhray1 wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
  
  Never watch the thing not even for the ads. Rather watch color bars 
  than sports. Is it supposed to be our national duty to watch it or 
  something?
 
 I went to a hockey game last night.  Three 20 minute periods of all out 
 exertion.  No one line can stay out for more than a few minutes before they 
 have to sub.  The Super Bowl, or any football for that matter is 
 approximately 12.45 minutes of actual action.   The rest of the time, the 
 clock is just running.
 
Which is more purely violent, hockey or football?

I'd say hockey is; it even spills over into the audience. 

Ever see a spectator take a high-speed puck in the mouth? Haven't gone since.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash the Super Bowl

Please don't put words in my mouth - context is everything, dude. My daughter 
asked me the question below, in those words. I wasn't asking the question 
myself. Like I said, it won't interfere with our enjoyment of the game, but I 
am glad she brought it up, because I wasn't aware of the deplorable conduct on 
the part of the quarterback for the Steelers. 
Thanks for posting! :-)  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, azgrey no_reply@... wrote:

 Steeler fans are piggish-looking, sadomasochistic
 automatons whose only known forms of relaxation are
 swilling watery beer from vast tubs and singing the 
 idiotically repetitive verses of their porcine
 folk tunes-both of which amusements probably hark
 back to a prehuman state. Steeler fans have
 never been successfully Christianized. Their language
 lacks any semblance of civilized speech.
 Their usual diet consists almost wholly of old cabbage 
 and sections of animal intestines filled
 with blood and gore. Their lardy women have long, 
 tangled masses of sticky hair under their arms, and 
 the men shave the sides of their heads.
 
 On the other hand, they do have bad qualities... 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, WillyTex willytex@ wrote:
 
  
  
  whynotnow7:  
   ...the Steelers quarterback has been accused of sexual assault 
   six times and that several players on Green Bay have had similar 
   accusations, so should she root for the rapist or the rapists?
  
  If the Steelers win the Super Bowl, it will be Roethlisberger's 
  third Super Bowl win, tying him with Troy Aikman and Tom Brady for 
  the second-most Super Bowl wins by a quarterback. Terry Bradshaw 
  and Joe Montana each won four Super Bowls.
  
  Read more:
  
  'The Hangover: Roethlisberger'
  Sports Illustrated, May 10, 2010
  http://tinyurl.com/2aoygwr
  
  He had twice been accused of sexual assault, although neither 
  allegation resulted in charges being filed...
  
  Kansas City Star, February 4, 2011
  http://tinyurl.com/6kunn7r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash the Super Bowl

Ouch!! I saw one college ice hockey game live in Denver in the early 70's and 
for that entire game, it was mostly fighting on the ice. Didn't like it. Last 
one I saw too. Maybe its changed but I am not from ice country anyway, so not 
that much impetus to check it out again :-) 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:

 
 On Feb 5, 2011, at 5:04 PM, seventhray1 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   
   Never watch the thing not even for the ads. Rather watch color bars 
   than sports. Is it supposed to be our national duty to watch it or 
   something?
  
  I went to a hockey game last night.  Three 20 minute periods of all out 
  exertion.  No one line can stay out for more than a few minutes before 
  they have to sub.  The Super Bowl, or any football for that matter is 
  approximately 12.45 minutes of actual action.   The rest of the time, the 
  clock is just running.
  
 Which is more purely violent, hockey or football?
 
 I'd say hockey is; it even spills over into the audience. 
 
 Ever see a spectator take a high-speed puck in the mouth? Haven't gone since.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash the Super Bowl



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
 Which is more purely violent, hockey or football?
I would say hockey, hands down.  Tempers can flare in a instant, and
suddenly you have gloves off, and a full fledged fight in the middle of
the ice.  Refs have to wait till the combatants get exhausted before
they can break it up.
 I'd say hockey is; it even spills over into the audience.
I haven't really seen that,  at least what you would call violence.
 Ever see a spectator take a high-speed puck in the mouth? Haven't gone
since.
Oh, definitely can happen to spectators..  And it's almost surprising
how many of the players still have all their teeth.  Last year one of
our players got hit directly in the mouth by a slap shot, and lost top
row of middle teeth.  That was not pleasant. The hockey crowd is
different than other crowds.  For some reason my kids (b0ys) have gotten
into inline hockey as a participating sport, and the girl has gotten
into the professional team as a spectactor sport.  Doesn't hurt that we
have an in whereby we often get complimentary tickets.  I've got to say,
that the side features they have on the jumbotron are pretty
entertaining.  I'm not talking about the kiss cam, but just other
funny stuff.  I would not have figured myself as a sports buff, but
this kind of sneaked up on me.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash the Super Bowl


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@...
wrote:

 The Packers meet the Steelers in Dallas on Sunday. Who are you rooting
for? I'm rooting the commercials. The thirty-second Doritos or Pepsi Max
commercial contest finalists:

 http://tinyurl.com/6arcg5s http://tinyurl.com/6arcg5s

These were really funny.  I thought the gay themed ones were the best. 
Also the beer can projectile. I mentioned that the jumbotron features at
the hockey game I attended were quite entertaining.  Once or twice they
had a gay edge to them, and everybody enjoyed it. I think this is how
the people get comfortable with changing attitudes.  Once it seeps in
the hockey crowd, you've made some good inroads.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash the Super Bowl


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@...
wrote:
  I think this is how
 the people get comfortable with changing attitudes. Once it seeps in
 the hockey crowd, you've made some good inroads.

That, and Katy Perry.  Definitely pushes the boundry in an entertaining
way. (for me at least, but then again I have a 13 yr. old daughter)  As
I understand it, Katy Perry, is a moderate TMO booster.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash the Super Bowl

2007-10-23 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?

I heard that her and her husband both do TM. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
 wrote:
   I think this is how
  the people get comfortable with changing attitudes. Once it seeps in
  the hockey crowd, you've made some good inroads.
 
 That, and Katy Perry.  Definitely pushes the boundry in an entertaining
 way. (for me at least, but then again I have a 13 yr. old daughter)  As
 I understand it, Katy Perry, is a moderate TMO booster.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

Thanks for this reminder.  I just looked up and confirmed what I suspected
the past few days -- Mercury IS retrograde.  Fasting and planning, fasting
and planning till it gets back on the forward track. *sigh*



On 10/19/07, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mercury goes retrograde quite often. It also that Saturn is right now
 conjunct Ketu, and also right now Saturn is not only afflicted by
 that but also weak due to its dispositor being weak (the Sun, at the
 moment changing signs. This will impact some individuals and nations
 very badly depending on their ascendant and if they have a birth
 planet around the same approx 11 degrees in odd signs.
 But the worst is already averted.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  all the jyotishees are so inclined, because of the present
  transit of Mercury.
 
  this msg from Team CyberAstro (www.cyberastro.com)
  summarizes it well:
 
  Mercury is the planet of intelligence and exchange/transaction
  in our daily life. During retrograde motion, Mercury will cause
  confusion, rumour galore, and communication bottlenecks in our life.
 
  In mundane astrology, retrograde Mercury reverses the present trend
  in the stock market. So, watch out!
 
  Take a little more care on house keeping activities on your
  computer and mail systems.
 
  Of course effect of retrograde Mercury will be different
  on different people based on their individual charts
  and specific house and life aspects that Libra represents
  in the individual chart.
 
  also, Fairfielder David Hawthorne has this to say:
  Mercury transits Libra from 12:39 to 04:43
  and moves away from the aspects of Saturn and Rahu.
  Mercury is combust until Oct. 29, and retrograde until Nov. 1
  Be careful with your stocks, business and communications.
 
  http://www.fairfieldtoday.com/index.php?
 option=com_contenttask=blogcategoryid=104Itemid=98
 
   docu1000 wrote:
  
   Below is a free alert from Mahendra Sharma (link
   http://www.mahendraprophecy.com/LatestFlash.asp?Id=334Page=3%20
   I wonder what Maharishi Jyotish predicts.
  
   Dear Member,
   We are approaching toward worst volatile period like 1929 and
 1987.
   I advise please stay alert and just watch market.
   Hold cash as many will fall with fall of commodities,
   stock market and hot bubble currencies.
   This will happen in the next two weeks.
  
   As predicted today all commodities will remain very volatile.
   Trading up can move down during the day
   (This apply for metals, oil and grains).
  
   I mentioned in newsletter that today is the day to sell
   Canadian and Australian dollar and yes once again I confirm that.
   Currently December contract are trading at $1.0243 and 0.9009.
   Dollar index trading stable and it should trade positive.
  
   I predicted major crash in all stock market from 18 October
   so watch this date closely and plan your trades accordingly.
   There will blood-bath in Asian market and may few of the market
   will close down for few days so watch carefully.
   Get out from all position before 18 October including metals,
   Uranium and Alternative energy stocks.
   Coffee and cotton to remain positive.
   Thanks  God Bless
   Mahendra Sharma, 11 Oct 5.50AM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

2007-10-21 Thread off_world_beings

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, docu1000 docu1000@ wrote:
 
  Below is a free alert from Mahendra Sharma (link
  http://www.mahendraprophecy.com/LatestFlash.asp?Id=334Page=3%
20 ). I
  wonder what Maharishi Jyotish predicts.
  
  Dear Member,
  
  We are approaching toward worst volatile period like 1929 and 
1987. I
  advise please stay alert and just watch market. Hold cash as many 
will
  fall with fall of commodities, stock market and hot bubble 
currencies.
  This will happen in the next two weeks.
  
  As predicted today all commodities will remain very volatile. 
Trading up
  can move down during the day (This apply for metals, oil and 
grains).
  
  I mentioned in newsletter that today is the day to sell Canadian 
and
  Australian dollar and yes once again I confirm that. Currently 
December
  contract are trading at $1.0243 and 0.9009. Dollar index trading 
stable
  and it should trade positive.
  
  I predicted major crash in all stock market from 18 October so 
watch
  this date closely and plan your trades accordingly. There will
  blood-bath in Asian market and may few of the market will close 
down for
  few days so watch carefully. Get out from all position before 18 
October
  including metals, Uranium and Alternative energy stocks.
  
 
 
 
  Coffee and cotton to remain positive.
 
 Does he have any predictions on Gold ? It's unfortunately traded in
 that american dollar...

What I heard was: Due to the unusual transit of the moon over the 
volatile sub-chart variables in the ketu to vastu satas, jyotishis 
will have a propensity to make even more erroneous and exaggerated 
prophecies,than even the usual fare of jyotishi gypsy palm reading 
inaccuracies and fakery.

Seriously though?...dump those US dollars in any way you can...NOW !

OffWorld

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

2007-10-20 Thread m2smart4u2000

When someone is losing money, someone else is making it. Changes in 
market are almost always opportunities to make big money.
I would not let a prediction scare me away.
There is this senseless chatter about mercury retrograde. I have 
been observing its affect on my life for a long time since I have 
exalted mercury prominently in my chart. I have signed several major 
contracts during mercury retrograde, having full knowlege of the 
retrograde motion. Our instincts about our own lives are probably 
better than the predictions. I listen to the jyoitsh, but move by 
instinct. One review I read about mercury retrograde said that it is 
a chance to Re view something in our lives. RETRO in MIND or 
mercury is simply like going back, transcending something old 
and redoing it. After I read that I thought, OK that is why I re-
financed my house in mercury retrograde even though one is told not 
to sign contracts. Signing an auto purchase agreement during mercury 
retrograde, was for me a different kind of review. It makes more 
sense to me in retrospect and that is why I think it is better to 
trust our instincts not fear. The planetary effects are very 
personal.

 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Mercury goes retrograde quite often. It also that Saturn is right 
now 
 conjunct Ketu, and also right now Saturn is not only afflicted by 
 that but also weak due to its dispositor being weak (the Sun, at 
the 
 moment changing signs. This will impact some individuals and 
nations 
 very badly depending on their ascendant and if they have a birth 
 planet around the same approx 11 degrees in odd signs.
 But the worst is already averted.
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
 george.deforest@ wrote:
 
  
  all the jyotishees are so inclined, because of the present
  transit of Mercury.
  
  this msg from Team CyberAstro (www.cyberastro.com)
  summarizes it well:
  
  Mercury is the planet of intelligence and exchange/transaction 
  in our daily life. During retrograde motion, Mercury will cause
  confusion, rumour galore, and communication bottlenecks in our 
life.
   
  In mundane astrology, retrograde Mercury reverses the present 
trend 
  in the stock market. So, watch out! 
  
  Take a little more care on house keeping activities on your 
  computer and mail systems. 
  
  Of course effect of retrograde Mercury will be different 
  on different people based on their individual charts 
  and specific house and life aspects that Libra represents 
  in the individual chart.
  
  also, Fairfielder David Hawthorne has this to say:
  Mercury transits Libra from 12:39 to 04:43
  and moves away from the aspects of Saturn and Rahu. 
  Mercury is combust until Oct. 29, and retrograde until Nov. 1
  Be careful with your stocks, business and communications.
  
  http://www.fairfieldtoday.com/index.php?
 option=com_contenttask=blogcategoryid=104Itemid=98
  
   docu1000 wrote:
  
   Below is a free alert from Mahendra Sharma (link
   http://www.mahendraprophecy.com/LatestFlash.asp?Id=334Page=3%
20
   I wonder what Maharishi Jyotish predicts.
   
   Dear Member,
   We are approaching toward worst volatile period like 1929 and 
 1987.
   I advise please stay alert and just watch market. 
   Hold cash as many will fall with fall of commodities, 
   stock market and hot bubble currencies.
   This will happen in the next two weeks.
   
   As predicted today all commodities will remain very volatile.
   Trading up can move down during the day 
   (This apply for metals, oil and grains).
   
   I mentioned in newsletter that today is the day to sell 
   Canadian and Australian dollar and yes once again I confirm 
that.
   Currently December contract are trading at $1.0243 and 0.9009.
   Dollar index trading stable and it should trade positive.
   
   I predicted major crash in all stock market from 18 October 
   so watch this date closely and plan your trades accordingly. 
   There will blood-bath in Asian market and may few of the market
   will close down for few days so watch carefully. 
   Get out from all position before 18 October including metals,
   Uranium and Alternative energy stocks.
   Coffee and cotton to remain positive.
   Thanks  God Bless
   Mahendra Sharma, 11 Oct 5.50AM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

2007-10-20 Thread Bhairitu

So, pray tell, how do we all become the ones that make big money?  :D 
That is without having to spend a lot of time learning about investing 
and having the luck to win in the market (which I consider just a form 
of gambling).  I'm pretty right brained and get bored pretty easily 
reading the investment stuff my broker sends me.   Let's face it most 
people on the planet aren't money nuts.

m2smart4u2000 wrote:
 When someone is losing money, someone else is making it. Changes in 
 market are almost always opportunities to make big money.
 I would not let a prediction scare me away.
 There is this senseless chatter about mercury retrograde. I have 
 been observing its affect on my life for a long time since I have 
 exalted mercury prominently in my chart. I have signed several major 
 contracts during mercury retrograde, having full knowlege of the 
 retrograde motion. Our instincts about our own lives are probably 
 better than the predictions. I listen to the jyoitsh, but move by 
 instinct. One review I read about mercury retrograde said that it is 
 a chance to Re view something in our lives. RETRO in MIND or 
 mercury is simply like going back, transcending something old 
 and redoing it. After I read that I thought, OK that is why I re-
 financed my house in mercury retrograde even though one is told not 
 to sign contracts. Signing an auto purchase agreement during mercury 
 retrograde, was for me a different kind of review. It makes more 
 sense to me in retrospect and that is why I think it is better to 
 trust our instincts not fear. The planetary effects are very 
 personal.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

2007-10-20 Thread m2smart4u2000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, pray tell, how do we all become the ones that make big 
money?  :D 
 That is without having to spend a lot of time learning about 
investing 
 and having the luck to win in the market (which I consider just 
a form 
 of gambling).  I'm pretty right brained and get bored pretty 
easily 
 reading the investment stuff my broker sends me.   Let's face it 
most 
 people on the planet aren't money nuts.

Money can be made in many areas ofcourse. you have to know your  
niche and be educated in that area. Real Estate is starting to 
happen now with the drop. There are lots of changes in how people 
sell property. I Just went to an aucton this week. Wholesaling 
houses is good. The REO prices are still high, but I am watching it.
The typical process seems to be:
House in default (mayabe listed as a short sale on MLS)
House in foreclosure
Auction at foreclosure
Listed for sale through MLS
If not sold, goes to auction (bank owned auction)
the house I just watched had been purchased in 2005 for $130, 
foreclosed on, listed on MLS for $9lk and didn't sell, went to 
auction and sold for $56k (which i thought was high)
another similar situation the house sold for $25k and the buyers 
turned around and sold it in a day for $50k. That is where you want 
to be. 
One guy here just buys houses at foreclosure auction and resales 
them for 10% increase. This can get a great deal for both buyers 
since you MUST have all cash to buy at foreclosure auctions (in 
Oregon). There are hundreds of ways to struction the deals,lots of 
contacts and online sights to use. Many of those sights require 
membership, but not all.
 
 m2smart4u2000 wrote:
  When someone is losing money, someone else is making it. Changes 
in 
  market are almost always opportunities to make big money.
  I would not let a prediction scare me away.
  There is this senseless chatter about mercury retrograde. I have 
  been observing its affect on my life for a long time since I 
have 
  exalted mercury prominently in my chart. I have signed several 
major 
  contracts during mercury retrograde, having full knowlege of the 
  retrograde motion. Our instincts about our own lives are 
probably 
  better than the predictions. I listen to the jyoitsh, but move 
by 
  instinct. One review I read about mercury retrograde said that 
it is 
  a chance to Re view something in our lives. RETRO in MIND 
or 
  mercury is simply like going back, transcending something old 
  and redoing it. After I read that I thought, OK that is why 
I re-
  financed my house in mercury retrograde even though one is told 
not 
  to sign contracts. Signing an auto purchase agreement during 
mercury 
  retrograde, was for me a different kind of review. It makes 
more 
  sense to me in retrospect and that is why I think it is better 
to 
  trust our instincts not fear. The planetary effects are very 
  personal.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

2007-10-20 Thread Bhairitu

m2smart4u2000 wrote:
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 So, pray tell, how do we all become the ones that make big 
 
 money?  :D 
   
 That is without having to spend a lot of time learning about 
 
 investing 
   
 and having the luck to win in the market (which I consider just 
 
 a form 
   
 of gambling).  I'm pretty right brained and get bored pretty 
 
 easily 
   
 reading the investment stuff my broker sends me.   Let's face it 
 
 most 
   
 people on the planet aren't money nuts.
 

 Money can be made in many areas ofcourse. you have to know your  
 niche and be educated in that area. Real Estate is starting to 
 happen now with the drop. There are lots of changes in how people 
 sell property. I Just went to an aucton this week. Wholesaling 
 houses is good. The REO prices are still high, but I am watching it.
 The typical process seems to be:
 House in default (mayabe listed as a short sale on MLS)
 House in foreclosure
 Auction at foreclosure
 Listed for sale through MLS
 If not sold, goes to auction (bank owned auction)
 the house I just watched had been purchased in 2005 for $130, 
 foreclosed on, listed on MLS for $9lk and didn't sell, went to 
 auction and sold for $56k (which i thought was high)
 another similar situation the house sold for $25k and the buyers 
 turned around and sold it in a day for $50k. That is where you want 
 to be. 
 One guy here just buys houses at foreclosure auction and resales 
 them for 10% increase. This can get a great deal for both buyers 
 since you MUST have all cash to buy at foreclosure auctions (in 
 Oregon). There are hundreds of ways to struction the deals,lots of 
 contacts and online sights to use. Many of those sights require 
 membership, but not all.
   
Thanks.  But see that works for you because you're into those kind of 
things.  It reminds me of the time right after I became a TM teacher 
that there was an Amway craze going through the movement.  What I 
learned from that experience was that I'm not a salesman and the people 
who did good at Amway would have done good selling widgets too.   It has 
to be in your blood.

We all have personality types which aren't even transcended if you're 
enlightened.  When I worked for a tech company that went public the 
artists in the company were complaining that they didn't know what to do 
with their stocks (401K even) and thought they were as much a curse as a 
blessing.   This drove the more left brain people nuts who couldn't 
understand them.  Now if they had held on to their stock and sold it 
today even with meager options they would be retired today because the 
company was sold and over the years that companies stock has split 
several times and is worth a whole lot.  But not even the most savvy 
investment counselor would have told any of us to hold on because tech 
companies were a huge risk and really only rose later on during the tech 
bubble.  If we held on that stock could have just as easily become 
worthless too.

BTW, what year was that house built?  I'm in the Bay Area and my 1962 
built house is still worth close to $500K even though the market has 
softened a bit (my neighbor who was the selling agent for the house 
tells me it is back to pre-boom normal business).   That is because 
some folks who bought further out are able to buy further in to reduce 
their commutes.  Around here $56K would get you a tool shed.  :)

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

2007-10-20 Thread george_deforest

 shukra69 wrote:

 Mercury goes retrograde quite often. It also that 
 Saturn is right now conjunct Ketu, and also right now 
 Saturn is not only afflicted by that but also weak due to 
 its dispositor being weak (the Sun, at the 
 moment changing signs. This will impact some individuals and nations 
 very badly depending on their ascendant and if they have a birth 
 planet around the same approx 11 degrees in odd signs.
 But the worst is already averted.

i would add, the worst is not averted for another week,
because that dispostior of Saturn/Ketu, the Sun has
entered its sign of debilitation (Libra); and will reach
its exact degree of debilitation (10 deg) next Saturday.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

2007-10-20 Thread m2smart4u2000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 m2smart4u2000 wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:

  So, pray tell, how do we all become the ones that make big 
  
  money?  :D 

  That is without having to spend a lot of time learning about 
  
  investing 

  and having the luck to win in the market (which I consider 
just 
  
  a form 

  of gambling).  I'm pretty right brained and get bored pretty 
  
  easily 

  reading the investment stuff my broker sends me.   Let's face 
it 
  
  most 

  people on the planet aren't money nuts.
  
 
  Money can be made in many areas ofcourse. you have to know your  
  niche and be educated in that area. Real Estate is starting to 
  happen now with the drop. There are lots of changes in how 
people 
  sell property. I Just went to an aucton this week. Wholesaling 
  houses is good. The REO prices are still high, but I am watching 
it.
  The typical process seems to be:
  House in default (mayabe listed as a short sale on MLS)
  House in foreclosure
  Auction at foreclosure
  Listed for sale through MLS
  If not sold, goes to auction (bank owned auction)
  the house I just watched had been purchased in 2005 for $130, 
  foreclosed on, listed on MLS for $9lk and didn't sell, went to 
  auction and sold for $56k (which i thought was high)
  another similar situation the house sold for $25k and the buyers 
  turned around and sold it in a day for $50k. That is where you 
want 
  to be. 
  One guy here just buys houses at foreclosure auction and resales 
  them for 10% increase. This can get a great deal for both buyers 
  since you MUST have all cash to buy at foreclosure auctions (in 
  Oregon). There are hundreds of ways to struction the deals,lots 
of 
  contacts and online sights to use. Many of those sights require 
  membership, but not all.

 Thanks.  But see that works for you because you're into those kind 
of 
 things.  It reminds me of the time right after I became a TM 
teacher 
 that there was an Amway craze going through the movement.  What 
I 
 learned from that experience was that I'm not a salesman and the 
people 
 who did good at Amway would have done good selling widgets too.   
It has 
 to be in your blood.
 
 We all have personality types which aren't even transcended if 
you're 
 enlightened.  When I worked for a tech company that went public 
the 
 artists in the company were complaining that they didn't know what 
to do 
 with their stocks (401K even) and thought they were as much a 
curse as a 
 blessing.   This drove the more left brain people nuts who 
couldn't 
 understand them.  Now if they had held on to their stock and sold 
it 
 today even with meager options they would be retired today because 
the 
 company was sold and over the years that companies stock has split 
 several times and is worth a whole lot.  But not even the most 
savvy 
 investment counselor would have told any of us to hold on because 
tech 
 companies were a huge risk and really only rose later on during 
the tech 
 bubble.  If we held on that stock could have just as easily become 
 worthless too.
 
 BTW, what year was that house built?  I'm in the Bay Area and my 
1962 
 built house is still worth close to $500K even though the market 
has 
 softened a bit (my neighbor who was the selling agent for the 
house 
 tells me it is back to pre-boom normal business).   That is 
because 
 some folks who bought further out are able to buy further in to 
reduce 
 their commutes.  Around here $56K would get you a tool shed.  :)

yeah we have seen the same thing here. Ashland market has somewhat 
held its price at well over $200 per square foot while medford (10 
miles away) has dropped more in value. I see much less sales but not 
a huge drop in value.(either that, or sellers are adamantly refusing 
to drop the price, hence the house just sits on the market)
 The house I refered to was a remote old logging area called butte 
falls and the house was 1194 square feet in bad condition (mostly 
easy to fix). This is one area where, at that price, you could rent 
the house for it's mortgage payment without much negative cash flow. 
As far as knowlege in real estate, I kind of fell into it but 
continued to educate myself. One has to love what they are doing to 
contiune with a passion. 
I have been doing accounting and legal work in Real estate for over 
4 years for LLC's, SubS, 401k, including rentals, fixer-uppers, 
development etc.  I was kind of wondering WHY i was doing this. BUT 
now i get it because i am poised to create my own deals. when you 
have to make something clear legally and tax-wise, you have to GET 
IT. Meanwhile, my chart is saying, great big money, play big. 
There is that side that nature put me there and that side 
of educating and being prepared then jyoitsh says the time is 
here and viola. That's the free will/destiny combo! Now I will see

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

2007-10-20 Thread Marek Reavis

Comment below:

**

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

**snip**

 I have been doing accounting and legal work in Real estate for over 
 4 years for LLC's, SubS, 401k, including rentals, fixer-uppers, 
 development etc.  I was kind of wondering WHY i was doing this. BUT 
 now i get it because i am poised to create my own deals. when you 
 have to make something clear legally and tax-wise, you have to GET 
 IT. Meanwhile, my chart is saying, great big money, play big. 
 There is that side that nature put me there and that side 
 of educating and being prepared then jyoitsh says the time is 
 here and viola. That's the free will/destiny combo! Now I will see 
 if the jyotish is correct. 

**snip to end**

M2, your story (above) is a great example of how we play the cards we're dealt 
to end up 
in the place we discover we're supposed to be.  The free will/destiny combo 
exactly.

Marek

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

2007-10-19 Thread george_deforest

all the jyotishees are so inclined, because of the present
transit of Mercury.

this msg from Team CyberAstro (www.cyberastro.com)
summarizes it well:

Mercury is the planet of intelligence and exchange/transaction
in our daily life. During retrograde motion, Mercury will cause
confusion, rumour galore, and communication bottlenecks in our life.

In mundane astrology, retrograde Mercury reverses the present trend
in the stock market. So, watch out!

Take a little more care on house keeping activities on your
computer and mail systems.

Of course effect of retrograde Mercury will be different
on different people based on their individual charts
and specific house and life aspects that Libra represents
in the individual chart.

also, Fairfielder David Hawthorne has this to say:
Mercury transits Libra from 12:39 to 04:43
and moves away from the aspects of Saturn and Rahu.
Mercury is combust until Oct. 29, and retrograde until Nov. 1
Be careful with your stocks, business and communications.

http://www.fairfieldtoday.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=blogcategoryid=104Itemid=98

docu1000 wrote:

Below is a free alert from Mahendra Sharma (link
http://www.mahendraprophecy.com/LatestFlash.asp?Id=334Page=3%20
I wonder what Maharishi Jyotish predicts.

Dear Member,
We are approaching toward worst volatile period like 1929 and 1987.
I advise please stay alert and just watch market.
Hold cash as many will fall with fall of commodities,
stock market and hot bubble currencies.
This will happen in the next two weeks.

As predicted today all commodities will remain very volatile.
Trading up can move down during the day
(This apply for metals, oil and grains).

I mentioned in newsletter that today is the day to sell
Canadian and Australian dollar and yes once again I confirm that.
Currently December contract are trading at $1.0243 and 0.9009.
Dollar index trading stable and it should trade positive.

I predicted major crash in all stock market from 18 October
so watch this date closely and plan your trades accordingly.
There will blood-bath in Asian market and may few of the market
will close down for few days so watch carefully.
Get out from all position before 18 October including metals,
Uranium and Alternative energy stocks.
Coffee and cotton to remain positive.
Thanks God Bless
Mahendra Sharma, 11 Oct 5.50AM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

2007-10-19 Thread shukra69

Mercury goes retrograde quite often. It also that Saturn is right now 
conjunct Ketu, and also right now Saturn is not only afflicted by 
that but also weak due to its dispositor being weak (the Sun, at the 
moment changing signs. This will impact some individuals and nations 
very badly depending on their ascendant and if they have a birth 
planet around the same approx 11 degrees in odd signs.
But the worst is already averted.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, george_deforest 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 all the jyotishees are so inclined, because of the present
 transit of Mercury.
 
 this msg from Team CyberAstro (www.cyberastro.com)
 summarizes it well:
 
 Mercury is the planet of intelligence and exchange/transaction 
 in our daily life. During retrograde motion, Mercury will cause
 confusion, rumour galore, and communication bottlenecks in our life.
  
 In mundane astrology, retrograde Mercury reverses the present trend 
 in the stock market. So, watch out! 
 
 Take a little more care on house keeping activities on your 
 computer and mail systems. 
 
 Of course effect of retrograde Mercury will be different 
 on different people based on their individual charts 
 and specific house and life aspects that Libra represents 
 in the individual chart.
 
 also, Fairfielder David Hawthorne has this to say:
 Mercury transits Libra from 12:39 to 04:43
 and moves away from the aspects of Saturn and Rahu. 
 Mercury is combust until Oct. 29, and retrograde until Nov. 1
 Be careful with your stocks, business and communications.
 
 http://www.fairfieldtoday.com/index.php?
option=com_contenttask=blogcategoryid=104Itemid=98
 
  docu1000 wrote:
 
  Below is a free alert from Mahendra Sharma (link
  http://www.mahendraprophecy.com/LatestFlash.asp?Id=334Page=3%20
  I wonder what Maharishi Jyotish predicts.
  
  Dear Member,
  We are approaching toward worst volatile period like 1929 and 
1987.
  I advise please stay alert and just watch market. 
  Hold cash as many will fall with fall of commodities, 
  stock market and hot bubble currencies.
  This will happen in the next two weeks.
  
  As predicted today all commodities will remain very volatile.
  Trading up can move down during the day 
  (This apply for metals, oil and grains).
  
  I mentioned in newsletter that today is the day to sell 
  Canadian and Australian dollar and yes once again I confirm that.
  Currently December contract are trading at $1.0243 and 0.9009.
  Dollar index trading stable and it should trade positive.
  
  I predicted major crash in all stock market from 18 October 
  so watch this date closely and plan your trades accordingly. 
  There will blood-bath in Asian market and may few of the market
  will close down for few days so watch carefully. 
  Get out from all position before 18 October including metals,
  Uranium and Alternative energy stocks.
  Coffee and cotton to remain positive.
  Thanks  God Bless
  Mahendra Sharma, 11 Oct 5.50AM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash stock markets.

2007-10-19 Thread nablusoss1008

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, docu1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Below is a free alert from Mahendra Sharma (link
 http://www.mahendraprophecy.com/LatestFlash.asp?Id=334Page=3%20 ). I
 wonder what Maharishi Jyotish predicts.
 
 Dear Member,
 
 We are approaching toward worst volatile period like 1929 and 1987. I
 advise please stay alert and just watch market. Hold cash as many will
 fall with fall of commodities, stock market and hot bubble currencies.
 This will happen in the next two weeks.
 
 As predicted today all commodities will remain very volatile. Trading up
 can move down during the day (This apply for metals, oil and grains).
 
 I mentioned in newsletter that today is the day to sell Canadian and
 Australian dollar and yes once again I confirm that. Currently December
 contract are trading at $1.0243 and 0.9009. Dollar index trading stable
 and it should trade positive.
 
 I predicted major crash in all stock market from 18 October so watch
 this date closely and plan your trades accordingly. There will
 blood-bath in Asian market and may few of the market will close down for
 few days so watch carefully. Get out from all position before 18 October
 including metals, Uranium and Alternative energy stocks.
 



 Coffee and cotton to remain positive.

Does he have any predictions on Gold ? It's unfortunately traded in
that american dollar...

 
 Thanks  God Bless
 Mahendra Sharma, 11 Oct 5.50AM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash

2006-05-07 Thread shempmcgurk




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ 
 wrote:
 
  You say Korea has 21 mbps. I don't know what that means, 
actually. 
  I have high speed internet through my cable TV company...how 
many 
  mbps is that (whatever mbps means)?
 
 Test yourself (throughput you get vs. what you pay
 for) with: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
 
 To my great surprise, Wanadoo/France Telecom being
 the spawn of Satan and all, I pay for 8 Mbps and
 get 8 Mbps consistently.


Okay. I did the test: 2940 kbps download speed and 495 kbps upload 
speed.

Doesn't seem so good, does it?










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash

2006-05-07 Thread TurquoiseB




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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Test yourself (throughput you get vs. what you pay
  for) with: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
  
  To my great surprise, Wanadoo/France Telecom being
  the spawn of Satan and all, I pay for 8 Mbps and
  get 8 Mbps consistently.
 
 Okay. I did the test: 2940 kbps download speed and 495 
 kbps upload speed.
 
 Doesn't seem so good, does it?

If you have cable access, try it at different times
during the day, and you're likely to get different
results. Cable is a shared access system, so your
throughput depends on the number of people sharing
the line at that moment. Also, it's normal to have
download speed be much higher than upload speed;
that's the way most Internet access is sold. Very
few people need high upload speeds unless they're
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Crash

2006-05-07 Thread Bhairitu




shempmcgurk wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
  wrote:
  
   You say Korea has 21 mbps. I don't know what that means,
actually. 
   I have high speed internet through my cable TV company...how
many
   mbps is that (whatever mbps means)?
 
  Test yourself (throughput you get vs. what you pay
  for) with: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
 
  To my great surprise, Wanadoo/France Telecom being
  the spawn of Satan and all, I pay for 8 Mbps and
  get 8 Mbps consistently.
 

Okay. I did the test: 2940 kbps download speed and 495 kbps upload
speed.

Doesn't seem so good, does it?

 

Divide by 8 to get the mbps which would be around 3-4 mbps which is 
pretty standard for cable in the US. I only get 1.5 mbps on DSL but I 
will probably be going to some kind of business account a little later 
on with faster download and more important for my business faster 
uploads. They tend to cap upload speeds.







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Crash

2006-05-07 Thread Bhairitu




TurquoiseB wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
  You say Korea has 21 mbps. I don't know what that means, actually. 
  I have high speed internet through my cable TV company...how many
  mbps is that (whatever mbps means)?

Test yourself (throughput you get vs. what you pay
for) with: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

To my great surprise, Wanadoo/France Telecom being
the spawn of Satan and all, I pay for 8 Mbps and
get 8 Mbps consistently.


 

What is your upload speed?







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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Crash

2006-05-07 Thread Bhairitu




Bhairitu wrote:

shempmcgurk wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
   wrote:
   
You say Korea has 21 mbps. I don't know what that means,
 actually.
I have high speed internet through my cable TV company...how
 many
mbps is that (whatever mbps means)?
  
   Test yourself (throughput you get vs. what you pay
   for) with: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
  
   To my great surprise, Wanadoo/France Telecom being
   the spawn of Satan and all, I pay for 8 Mbps and
   get 8 Mbps consistently.
  
 
 Okay. I did the test: 2940 kbps download speed and 495 kbps upload
 speed.
 
 Doesn't seem so good, does it?
 
  
 
Divide by 8 to get the mbps which would be around 3-4 mbps which is
pretty standard for cable in the US. I only get 1.5 mbps on DSL but I
will probably be going to some kind of business account a little later
on with faster download and more important for my business faster
uploads. They tend to cap upload speeds.

 

Oops, I mean divide by 1000 for mbps which means 2.940 or still about 3 
mbps. What I gave was the conversion to bytes per second which probably 
makes more sense to the consumer. The marketing divas like to use bits 
because it gives more impressive looking numbers. Often you are more 
interested in how fast that 200 MB file is going to download and bytes 
are more convenient which is what most browsers and ftp programs give.
Here's a conversion program:
http://www.edoceo.com/utilis/bandwidth-calculator.php







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash

2006-05-07 Thread TurquoiseB




 Test yourself (throughput you get vs. what you pay
 for) with: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
 
 To my great surprise, Wanadoo/France Telecom being
 the spawn of Satan and all, I pay for 8 Mbps and
 get 8 Mbps consistently.
 
 What is your upload speed?

I'm not at home right now, so I can't check. 
I'm sitting in my favorite WiFi bar in Paris;
theirs is a puny 1250/123. :-)

Last I remember, mine at home is something
around 1 Mbps.











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[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash

2006-05-07 Thread bob_brigante




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 shempmcgurk wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
 wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
shempmcgurk@
   wrote:
   
You say Korea has 21 mbps. I don't know what that means,
 actually. 
I have high speed internet through my cable TV company...how
 many
mbps is that (whatever mbps means)?
  
   Test yourself (throughput you get vs. what you pay
   for) with: http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/
  
   To my great surprise, Wanadoo/France Telecom being
   the spawn of Satan and all, I pay for 8 Mbps and
   get 8 Mbps consistently.
  
 
 Okay. I did the test: 2940 kbps download speed and 495 kbps 
upload
 speed.
 
 Doesn't seem so good, does it?
 
  
 


 Divide by 8 to get the mbps which would be around 3-4 mbps which 
is 
 pretty standard for cable in the US. I only get 1.5 mbps on DSL 
but I 
 will probably be going to some kind of business account a little 
later 
 on with faster download and more important for my business faster 
 uploads. They tend to cap upload speeds.




You would divide kilobits by 1000 to get megabits per second, so 
2940 kilo bits/second is 2.9 megabits/second. Download speed is not 
measured in bytes (for which you would divide bits by eight), but 
bits.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 You're a movie bunch. 
 
 I know I'm 'way behind the times and all, living in
 the boonies of France, and that it won the Oscar for
 Best Film and all, but I just got around to seeing
 Crash tonight. I'm blown away. One of the highest
 (in a spiritual sense) films I've seen in a long,
 long time, possibly since American Beauty.
 
 If you saw it, what did you think of it? I think
 it's a passionate -- and compassionate -- lecture 
 on interdependent origination. Bloody brilliant.


I loved it. And as much as I liked Brokeback, Crash really did 
deserve to win Best Picture.

In a way it reminded me of the Sally Field film Places in the 
Heart. Both films kinda lead certain characters in unobvious 
directions and, yet, at the end there was a coming together in a 
sense of all the enemies, so to speak. When I first saw Places 
in the Heart I thought that last scene where all the characters of 
the movie -- both alive and dead -- come together in the church was 
corny but having seen it since several times I think it's one of the 
most moving and touching scenes I've ever seen.

Crash brought people you didn't think would come together, 
together. Whether it was the cop and the woman who he had fondled 
and abused during the traffic stop or the thief who frees the 
Koreans, characters did the unexpected and, in doing so, redeemed 
themselves. Now, this could have been a cheap cinematic trick and, 
indeed, because of it, it could have NOT worked. But it's harder to 
do than it looks and the filmmaker pulled it off. Wonderful, life 
affirming.










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash

2006-05-06 Thread TurquoiseB




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
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 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
 wrote:
 
  You're a movie bunch. 
  
  I know I'm 'way behind the times and all, living in
  the boonies of France, and that it won the Oscar for
  Best Film and all, but I just got around to seeing
  Crash tonight. I'm blown away. One of the highest
  (in a spiritual sense) films I've seen in a long,
  long time, possibly since American Beauty.
  
  If you saw it, what did you think of it? I think
  it's a passionate -- and compassionate -- lecture 
  on interdependent origination. Bloody brilliant.
 
 I loved it. And as much as I liked Brokeback, Crash really 
 did deserve to win Best Picture.

I really am in the boonies...I still haven't seen 
Brokeback Mountain. 

 In a way it reminded me of the Sally Field film Places in the 
 Heart. Both films kinda lead certain characters in unobvious 
 directions and, yet, at the end there was a coming together in a 
 sense of all the enemies, so to speak. When I first saw Places 
 in the Heart I thought that last scene where all the characters 
 of the movie -- both alive and dead -- come together in the church 
 was corny but having seen it since several times I think it's one 
 of the most moving and touching scenes I've ever seen.

I haven't seen that film since it came out. I'll try 
to see it again.

 Crash brought people you didn't think would come together, 
 together. Whether it was the cop and the woman who he had fondled 
 and abused during the traffic stop or the thief who frees the 
 Koreans, characters did the unexpected and, in doing so, redeemed 
 themselves. 

Exactly the theme I was thinking of in my rap about
Milarepa the other day. Although we still have to
deal with the karma of past actions, we *don't* have
to be bound by them. At every moment, we can ignore
the pull of the samskaric patterns and Do Something New.

I once heard a really cool Tibetan Buddhist nun 
give a whole dharma talk about that phenomenon...
that moment when you catch yourself about to fall 
into a samskaric rut and do the same old same old 
all over again...and INSTEAD you stop yourself, 
and you DO SOMETHING NEW. 

She went on and on about that moment, that cusp.
About how important it was to learn to recognize
those moments, and thus be able to take advantage
of them. About the incredible karmic effect *of*
taking advantage of those moments, and saying No
to a samskara. In her view, the making of that 
choice, the taking advantage of that cusp moment,
is all that is necessary to liberate you from
the samskara forever.

Wouldn't it be interesting to see a sequel of
Crash, and see where the lives of the characters 
who had one of those DO SOMETHING NEW moments in 
the film, and how it affected their later lives?

 Now, this could have been a cheap cinematic trick and, 
 indeed, because of it, it could have NOT worked. But 
 it's harder to do than it looks and the filmmaker pulled 
 it off. Wonderful, life affirming.

I was struck by the overall...forgive me for using
this word, but there really is no other...vibe of
the film. The vision, the sense of pacing, the music,
the overall tone -- they all struck me as coming from 
a very high place. If you asked me to list other 
American films that have struck me (and shocked
me) as coming from this high a place, on the spur 
of the moment only two spring to mind -- American 
Beauty and City Of Angels.












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[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash

2006-05-06 Thread TurquoiseB




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am renting a lot of Asian films and can recommend 3 Elements
 which are 3 short horror films made by top Asian directors. 
 After seeing the first one though you may never want to order 
 pot stickers again. :) 
 These are more high art than commercial film and so beautifully 
 photographed. Makes the typical Hollywood film look like a 
 sloppy cheap knock off of Asian films. :)

Can I assume you've seen Kwaidan, four classic ghost
tales, from the era of painted sets? Stunning.













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[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk 
 shempmcgurk@ wrote:
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ 
  wrote:
  
   You're a movie bunch. 
   
   I know I'm 'way behind the times and all, living in
   the boonies of France, and that it won the Oscar for
   Best Film and all, but I just got around to seeing
   Crash tonight. I'm blown away. One of the highest
   (in a spiritual sense) films I've seen in a long,
   long time, possibly since American Beauty.
   
   If you saw it, what did you think of it? I think
   it's a passionate -- and compassionate -- lecture 
   on interdependent origination. Bloody brilliant.
  
  I loved it. And as much as I liked Brokeback, Crash really 
  did deserve to win Best Picture.
 
 I really am in the boonies...I still haven't seen 
 Brokeback Mountain. 
 
  In a way it reminded me of the Sally Field film Places in the 
  Heart. Both films kinda lead certain characters in unobvious 
  directions and, yet, at the end there was a coming together in 
a 
  sense of all the enemies, so to speak. When I first 
saw Places 
  in the Heart I thought that last scene where all the characters 
  of the movie -- both alive and dead -- come together in the 
church 
  was corny but having seen it since several times I think it's 
one 
  of the most moving and touching scenes I've ever seen.
 
 I haven't seen that film since it came out. I'll try 
 to see it again.
 
  Crash brought people you didn't think would come together, 
  together. Whether it was the cop and the woman who he had 
fondled 
  and abused during the traffic stop or the thief who frees the 
  Koreans, characters did the unexpected and, in doing so, 
redeemed 
  themselves. 
 
 Exactly the theme I was thinking of in my rap about
 Milarepa the other day. Although we still have to
 deal with the karma of past actions, we *don't* have
 to be bound by them. At every moment, we can ignore
 the pull of the samskaric patterns and Do Something New.
 
 I once heard a really cool Tibetan Buddhist nun 
 give a whole dharma talk about that phenomenon...
 that moment when you catch yourself about to fall 
 into a samskaric rut and do the same old same old 
 all over again...and INSTEAD you stop yourself, 
 and you DO SOMETHING NEW. 
 
 She went on and on about that moment, that cusp.



Fascinating explanation of a phenomenon I feel I experience every 
day.

Yes, indeedy, I meet my cusp on a daily basis and more often than 
not I give in to the same old pattern again and again.

It's encouraging to hear that it's not just me but the rest of the 6 
billion inhabitants that go through this, too.





 About how important it was to learn to recognize
 those moments, and thus be able to take advantage
 of them. About the incredible karmic effect *of*
 taking advantage of those moments, and saying No
 to a samskara. In her view, the making of that 
 choice, the taking advantage of that cusp moment,
 is all that is necessary to liberate you from
 the samskara forever.
 
 Wouldn't it be interesting to see a sequel of
 Crash, and see where the lives of the characters 
 who had one of those DO SOMETHING NEW moments in 
 the film, and how it affected their later lives?
 
  Now, this could have been a cheap cinematic trick and, 
  indeed, because of it, it could have NOT worked. But 
  it's harder to do than it looks and the filmmaker pulled 
  it off. Wonderful, life affirming.
 
 I was struck by the overall...forgive me for using
 this word, but there really is no other...vibe of
 the film. The vision, the sense of pacing, the music,
 the overall tone -- they all struck me as coming from 
 a very high place. If you asked me to list other 
 American films that have struck me (and shocked
 me) as coming from this high a place, on the spur 
 of the moment only two spring to mind -- American 
 Beauty and City Of Angels.


Loved American Beauty, didn't really car for City of Angels. I 
dunno, it's probably that Nicholas Cage is in it. I just don't care 
for him. And it's not his acting I don't like; it's his voice. To 
me, there is a disconnect between his voice and his 
character/acting. I call it Ryan O'Neill voice. Ryan O'Neill 
could have been a much bigger star than he was but he has this 
terrible voice that makes him sound like a phony. The only movie I 
ever liked that he starred in was a movie from about 30 years ago 
called The Driver where O'Neill, like a Clint Eastwood character 
in a spaghetti Western, is seen and not heard; that is, he talks 
very little. 










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[FairfieldLife] Re: Crash




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  I am renting a lot of Asian films and can recommend 3 Elements
  which are 3 short horror films made by top Asian directors. 
  After seeing the first one though you may never want to order 
  pot stickers again. :) 
  These are more high art than commercial film and so beautifully 
  photographed. Makes the typical Hollywood film look like a 
  sloppy cheap knock off of Asian films. :)
 
 Can I assume you've seen Kwaidan, four classic ghost
 tales, from the era of painted sets? Stunning.


Some interesting Asian films NOT to miss:

Old Boy a Korean film that out-Tarantinoes Tarantino. You'll 
never be the same again.

Eat Drink Man Woman Ang Lee's wonderful film about daughters and 
gourmet chefs. It was so good that it was remade into a Mexican-
American version called Tortilla Soup. Actually, both movies are 
wonderful.

The Wedding Banquet. Everyone thinks Ang Lee only did one movie 
with a gay theme. Actually, Brokeback Mountain is his 
second. The Wedding Banquet was his first and almost as good.









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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Crash

2006-05-06 Thread Bhairitu




shempmcgurk wrote:

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  shempmcgurk wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
   
TurquoiseB wrote:
   
You're a movie bunch.

I know I'm 'way behind the times and all, living in
the boonies of France, and that it won the Oscar for
Best Film and all, but I just got around to seeing
Crash tonight. I'm blown away. One of the highest
(in a spiritual sense) films I've seen in a long,
long time, possibly since American Beauty.

If you saw it, what did you think of it? I think
it's a passionate -- and compassionate -- lecture
on interdependent origination. Bloody brilliant.




It was one of my favorite movies from last year. Now I can't
  understand
why Hollywood doesn't make more films like these (I'm sure
there
  will be
a bunch of far less than satisfying knock offs). It didn't
cost a
  lot
to make.
  
  
  
  
  You're right, Crash cost a measley $6.5 million in production
  costs which is a pittance...and DESPITE several big names, who
  obviously did it for scale because they believed in it:
  
  http://tinyurl.com/ztq5s
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Seems that most of the boobs that still go to multiplexes just
want a bunch of junk.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Quite right! So Hollywood is making the junk that people
  want...and, hey, if they would continue to go see quality
  like Crash then Hollywood would continue to do it. But the
people
  don't, so whose fault is that? Not Hollywoods's.
  
  But if you look at people like the Weinstein's (Miramax) who exist
  and live in Hollywood and, although are technically independents,
  they work with the Studio system yet have, IMHO, put out more
  quality movies in their existence than anyone else ever has.
  
  Take a look at what these guys have done:
  
  http://imdb.com/name/nm0005544/
  
  So it IS possible to do. We'd all just like to see more of it.
  
   
  
  Miramax WAS owned by Disney and a year or so ago the Weinstein's
got it
  back from Disney.
 
  Lion's Gate is the distributor for Crash. They also happened to
  distribute the 3 Elements DVD too. Kevin Smith (Clerks) on
the
  commentary for one of his movies said as the Lion's Gate logo came
up
  Lion's Gate where your film winds up when no one else wants
it. :) 
  They do distribute a lot of good little independent films.
 
  Sony Classic Films is another good indie and foreign distributor.
 
  And if you have a fast broadband connection you can buy and burn
your
  own DVDs online here:
  http://www.eztakes.com/




How long does it take to download?

Once you do it, do you leave it on your computer or, as you say
above, do you always burn a DVD with it and then erase what is on
the computer...or do you burn it DIRECTLY onto the DVD and it's
never on the computer?

And, I assume they charge for the download?

How much?


 

How long depends on the size of the DVD and your broadband connection. 
They have some small test DVDs and some DVDs that are almost 4 GB. 
However their download system allows you to download in segments. You 
do burn a DVD and their software embeds your name into the start screen 
and into the files. Their software will also burn the DVD for you. I 
suspect most of their users have cable broadband which is faster than 
the usual DSL (unless you buy a faster service). BTW, the US lags far 
behind other countries in broadband speed like Korea which has 21 mbps 
broadband. So much for competition.

They have some freebies which are old public domain movies. The rest 
vary in price from $1.99 and up tough usually around $7.99. Just peruse 
their catalog. A friend is distributing some films on this site.

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